November 27, 2023 • 32 mins
Six blackmail victims are invited to an isolated mansion by a man who knows a dark secret from each of their pasts. On arrival, each is given a pseudonym drawn from Cluedo before being introduced to the blackmailer. Each is handed a weapon, at which point the lights are switched off and the blackmailer is killed. Can the guests uncover the murderer before they all become victims? Brad Gilmore and Jeff Smith have a lot in common. Both are huge fans of the 1985 movie Clue, and both have made significant contributions to the film's legacy. Brad is the author of Back from the Future: A Celebration of the Greatest Time Travel Story Ever Told, and Jeff is the director of Who Done It: A Clue Documentary. In their new podcast, Clue the Movie Podcast, Brad and Jeff watch the movie one minute at a time and break it down. Along the way, they share behind-the-scenes stories, trivia, and their own personal insights. Whether you're a diehard fan of Clue or you've never seen it before, Clue the Movie Podcast is a must-listen.
Get In Touch with Jeff and Brad:
https://www.cluedoc.com
/https://theboatbradgilmore.com/
Get In Touch with Jeff and Brad:
https://www.cluedoc.com
/https://theboatbradgilmore.com/
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
Oh, what have you done now? No, it was a lot lot
but yes, see for yourself.Classic. How did you know it was
unlocked? How did you know thatyou could get it? The gun?
(00:20):
I didn't. I think I wouldbreak it open, but it was open
already A likely story. Maybe they'lljust go away wait for it. I'm
(00:42):
going to open it. Why Ihave nothing to hide. I didn't do
it the key. Youill? Goodevening, sir. Yes, I found
an abandoned card down near the gatesof this house. Did the driver come
(01:03):
in for any Hello? Everybody,Welcome back to clude Movie podcast. We
break down the nineteen five movie oneminute at a time. It is the
day after or the week after Thanksgiving, so I hope you all had a
lovely Thanksgiving break. My name isBrad Gilmore, joined by Jeff Smith.
(01:25):
Jeff I would say, let's getinto the specific and the nitty gritty of
what happened in Arizona at Thanksgiving?What happened Gilmore? And we're not gonna
do that just year. We're gonnapump the brakes on it because there is
it's a media episode here this week. Is that we that we releastours from
the airport alone that we want towe want to get into, but we
(01:49):
will. What stands out to youabout that? Yeah, let's just pretend
like we're recording this even like beforeThanksgiving, so it's not even in our
minds, right, all the thingsthat happened. Let's pretend this is like
the Sunday before thanks Right, whatstood out this minute? Well, this
is an excellent minute. This iscontinuing. After Yvet shoots the door to
(02:13):
let Mustard and Scarlet get out,chandelier comes crashing down. Missus peacock now
taking ahead, how did you knowwhere the gun come from? How did
you get it? And then theyall go check and yep, that cabinet
is open and it's just full ofweapons. Yeah, very strange, very
strange. Now, yeah, andthey all gather around. It's a nice,
(02:36):
nice moment again to have them alljust standing. It is a great
moment to see them all together.But okay, Yvet is questioned about the
gun and why does she throw iton the ground. Oh yeah, so
that's true the classic classic, evenhorror movie tropes. She goes here,
(02:57):
let me go show you the opencabinet and we'll throw the gun underneath the
chandelier. There's no logical reason forit. It's for it's for the end.
That just like we talked about withwhy did Colonel Mustard shove her into
that position and then stand there?I mean it was just to set up
dropping chandelier. Yeah, it's justto set it up. Movie is movie.
(03:22):
Sometimes movie is gonna movie, andI'm fine with it. But that
was just like one of those thingsto where if you're watching the stage player,
you're like, uh, you droppedthe gun. Yeah, go back,
Hey, you dropped it. Youmight want to go pick up a
stage, a stage handed sneak underneathit very weird. They give it a
(03:42):
nice bit close up there. Theywant you to know that gun is right
there. It's there. It's important. Remember she drops the gun. Now.
Her explanation was, I didn't knowit was unlocked. I was just
going to have to break it open. Okay, I said, I'm such
calling bs on vet. I don'tbelieve it. Well, she said,
(04:04):
if you look at peacock and whiteand actually even Mustard in the back.
Your guy. He when she says, I think I was break it open,
but it doesn't reopen. Uh,he like puts his hand on his
forehead like Oh good God, thatsome bs right here. It's some majors
(04:25):
I want. I'm so curious howthe scene would have played out if the
bell had never rung, Because they'vegot a vet almost literally in a corner
ending in front of the broken cabinet. That's all the mob mentality is now
here there. Don't believe a wordshe's saying. What would have happened if
that build it? Right? Ithink this movie would have ended soon because
(04:46):
they would have They probably would havelocked her up somewhere. But again,
if you okay, now, I'mdefending a vet for some reason. If
you're a Vet and you are theMada right right, and you feel like
the walls are closing in, Iwould not drop that revolver for anything.
(05:09):
Like if I'm if I'm the badperson, I'm picking it up. I'm
killing all of y'all to get outof here, right. She does have
two more bullets, she does.We know this, she does, so
she could use those. But dothey know that, Uh well, they're
(05:30):
probably not counting yet, but theyknow that one shot has been used for
mister body. One to the chandelier, two to the door. That's one
plus one plus two two four onelater first second telegram, that's five and
six will be the last one.Yeah, so she does have two bullets,
(05:50):
but would she blow it all rightthere? She still I think thinks
that she's got them all fooled.She's responsible or something. I don't I
don't know what, but she's definitelyresponsible for something. And perhaps she's thinking
that she can wheel away at Iam just the Well that's what ye.
Well, that's why I think thescene would have been if the bell had
(06:12):
a rung. But now everyone getsdistracted because cop shows up. Bill Henderson
Cop. Yeah, we're about totalk about Yeah, we know that he
really observed that that car earlier inthe scene, very thorough observation of the
car. Nothing gets this great cop, not except for the broken chandelier in
(06:34):
the middle of the room and abunch of murder suspects. Well there's there's
that. We'll see you later too. So if you're in this house all
this is going on and the doorbellrings, I don't care if I am
innocent, I'm not answering the doorbecause it seems like everybody who comes here
(06:57):
gets killed. Well, yeah,look what happened. The last guy at
that came to the door. He'sright in the other room. Guys,
take a look, and who knowswho could be there? Could have been
he was on the phone with hiswife. She could have we assumed because
we saw the ring. So somebodyon Instagram pointed out that there's a picture
that jeffre Kramer posted a while backon his Instagram and it's it's the shot
(07:18):
that's that's thrown in the fireplace ofthe motorists and Mustard together. Yeah,
Mustard has a wedding ring. Ontwo there's a Missus Colonel Missus Mustard who
I'm still proud of our wedding ringanalysis. That was a good one we
(07:38):
had. I think we've had sometop five moments and that is definitely well
so far. If I'm going torank our top discoveries, our top four,
there's four that come to mind.One was in the last episode,
which is It's a great trick.That was pretty nice. Yeah, oh
that's a great one. The weddingring is another one. Obviously, people
(08:01):
remember our camera blocking thing of ofMissus Peacock and the and the in the
cook and the cook that's a majorone. And then the mister Green theory,
and then the mister Green theory,So we should have five because that's
a good number. So who knowswhat that Look, we still got forty
(08:22):
happen in real time, folks,So we can't plan these things. We
can't plan it. Okay, let'sthen talk about Bill Henderson. Now here's
the thing. As a as afan of this movie, as a fan
of Fletch, there's a few othermovies that he popped up in over the
years. City Slickers, which wasthe wrestling movie he was in. He
(08:52):
was in a what are you in? The Lethal Weapon? I feel like
I remember him in Lethal Weapon orsomething something like or maybe it was a
Diehard I remember him in something likethat. But Bill Henderson. Let's look
up Bill Henderson here. I'm lookinghim up right now. And as I
look up Bill Henderson, the firstthing that pops up is Bill is the
(09:16):
name of my second cousin. Isit okay for me to marry him?
That's so weird, very strange.He he was in Okay, this might
be your Lethal Weapon. He wasin Maverick with Mel Gibson. Do you
see Maverick? Directed by Richard Donnerwho directed and Danny Glover. Spoilers for
(09:41):
Maverick, the forty year old movie. Danny Glover has a cameo on it,
and they play as a bank robber. He steals mel Gibson's money in
a bank robbery, and then whenthey look at each other, there's like
a look of recognition and even theCatago's bed like you know, the Eric
(10:01):
Clapton with the weapon guitar nineteen ninetyfour, Maverick, everybody I've never seen
let's see. Oh it's it's it'sgood. If you're okay with Melil Gibson.
Yeah, yeah, you're right,No holds bart, How I got
into college? Oh that's uh savage. Steve Holland, who directed Better Off
Dead and One Crazy Summer, Fantastic, John Cusack movies that he hates,
(10:28):
Wisdom, the Emilia West of hisdirectorial debut with a young Demi Moore,
a lot of TV Fletch, Factsof Life, Yes, the Ventures of
Buck RUBONSI Across the Eighth Dimension.But he's also, you know, best
known he was an actor, buthe was also a blues musician. This
(10:50):
is what I'm reading. Oh hey, he was angry patient in Lethal Weapon
for yes, when they all getasked, right right? So he was
angry patient leath the weapon for butlisten to this, Hey, this baby,
old baby, this I did notknow. Henderson was born in Chicago,
Illinois. Henderson began his professional musiccareer in nineteen fifty two. He's
(11:15):
born nineteen twenty six, performing inChicago with Ramsey Lewis, and began recording
as a leader after a move toNew York in nineteen fifty eight. I'm
assuming a bandleader. He subsequently recordedwith jazz pianist Horace Silver phenomenal Name on
the vocal version of Silver's signor Blues, which was a jukebox hit in the
(11:35):
mid nineteen fifties and remains one ofJazz label Blue Notes top selling singles.
Additionally, Henderson performed and recorded withOscar Peterson and Jimmy Smith, count Bassie
Yusuf Latif Awesome Name, and EddieHarris. He was under contract to the
VJ label between nineteen fifty eight nineteensixty one and recorded his first album,
(12:00):
Bill Henderson Sings, which features trumpeterBooker Little amongst side men. Okay,
there's a little more than I'll getto. Beginning of the mid nineteen seventies,
he frequently appeared on television in supporting, usually one time roles. His
film roles have followed a similar trendminor and supporting roles. Henderson also recorded
his own vocal tracks as King Bluesfor the comedy film Get Crazy, and
(12:24):
Henderson made a guest vocal appearance onCharlie Hayden's album The Art of Song in
nineteen ninety nine. Look at thatan accomplished musician. Yeah, and he
did basically all the TV shows workingactors did back in the day. He
did Happy Days, did Sanford andSound, He did Incredible HAULK Jefferson's What's
(12:48):
Happening, Good Times, mcdvortro inthe Heat of the Night, Heart to
Heart Er and he was in SilverStreak with Richard Pryor and Wilder My mid
can't Jump? Is he? Ishe? You know? There's a podcast
called The Rerewatchables. Bill Simmons hostsfrom the Ringer And there's a thing they
(13:11):
do where they always say that guyAward right where they say, oh,
it's that guy. Is Bill Hendersonthe ultimate that guy. He's a pretty
big that guy. I think thathe's a he's a that guy and he's
a oh yeah guy because when youI think people have seen a lot of
stuff that he's done and just don'trealize that that he's been the same person.
(13:37):
So when you go, hey,you've seen Clue, oh yeah,
the cop right, but you've seenCity Slickers, the guys that do the
ice cream. Oh yeah, okay, that's him, and then yeah,
Fletch same. Where do you standingup? Where do you stand on Jack
Palance winning the Oscar for City Slickers? Well, there are many times is
(14:00):
where I like The Departed, it'snot Martin Scorsese's best movie, No cat
Me, but that's that's what hewon. It's kind of like there are
certain legacy awards when they finally getnominated for something like Jack Palance is,
you know, a legend in film, and he hadn't done anything, as
(14:22):
I guess, he was a tangoingcash, which is excellent, but he
uh, I think definitely he didn'twin that award for City Slickers. He
won that award for being Jack Palance. Okay, career, I mean that
happens all the time. I thinkwhen you they finally get nominated for something
and you go, oh yeah,well, that's kind of like when you
(14:45):
you speed all the time and youfinally get a ticket and you were really
going that fast. But I deservea ticket at some point, and this
one maybe wasn't the one I shouldhave been pulled over for, but it
caught up with it. Yeah,City Slickers is his speed ticket? It
so to to to make this speakingwhere to connect us back to clude Jonathan
(15:07):
Lynn movie, My cousin Vinnie.Where do we stand on Maurrissaito May?
Sorry it was Jack Palance that gavethe award to Versito because he had won
the your and everybody thought that hejust read the last name on the nomination
list again and that's how she won. Who was she up against that year?
(15:28):
It's actually a great question. Canyou look that up? Because yes
I can. First of all,I want to talk about a Mazieur crush
forever is Maurita toll May. Thatis a that's a constant we think about
her, even as Aunt May andthe New Spider Man movies. It's like,
man, Aunt May Fire, whatare you coming up with? I
(15:52):
like May and the and the Ramieverse. That's who I thought was Well,
she looks like an ant May.She looks like a grand great ant.
Okay, so she was nominated withJudy Davis. This doesn't say that.
Unfortunately, the first one I lookedup doesn't say what they were nominated
for. But Judy Davis, thiswas ninety four. Okay, let's see
(16:18):
Joe plow Right, Vanessa Redgrave,and Miranda Richardson. So a lot of
accents, yes, a lot ofaccents. I'm looking for the probably the
sixty six. My biological clock isticking like this. She won Best Supporting
(16:40):
right, not Best Actress. You'rehaving trouble finding this. Ninety five?
When when did the movie come out? My cousin, VINNIEH two? Okay,
(17:00):
I know people are just in theold bar our internet searching, but
sorry, everybody out they're yelling ninetytwo. Everybody knows Academy Awards nineteen sixty
fourth. I'm trying to see whoshe was actually nominated up against, so
it'll be the next year's ceremony.Sixty fifth. Okay, here we get
(17:21):
your favorite line, cousin, it'sprobably my biological clock sticking like this,
or yeah, you blend. MirandaRichardson was Damage for the movie Damage,
Okay, never heard of it.Vanessa Redgrave was for Howard's End. Okay,
that was dominated for a lot thatyear. Joan Plowwright was nominated four
(17:44):
Enchanted April Judy Davis for a Husbandsand Wives. I have heard of that
one. Oh what are Yellen?And she's that too, Murissa to May.
If memory serves, Judy Davis wasthe run her that year. They
thought it was going to be herand it went Tori. It was.
She was very good in that movie. And that was a time where a
(18:07):
lot of supporting actresses from Woody Allenmovies were winning, Like Mira Servino won
Best Supporting Actress for her Woody Allenmovie. Uh yeah, Diane Weese won
Best Sporting Actress for Boltover Broadway,which is Woody Allen movie. So I
think she was the front runner.And then everybody was shocked that the silly
Little Courtroom comedy. Well yeah,but she's great in it when you watch
it, Oh, she's phenomenal.Supporting actresses and supporting actor, but usually
(18:32):
supporting actress. Sometimes some oddball onesget thrown out there. It's kind of
a well, it's like I'm aRobert Junior in Tropic Thunder was nominated for
an Academy Award. Right, theymight throw a comedy fun comedy part in
there. This is again. Iknow we're a little off the beaten path,
but I just want to read thesejust for historical context so people can
(18:52):
say, Okay, well what whoelse won for the acting categories that year?
Because that's how my mind works.Best act Interist. The nominees were
Susan Sarandon for Lorenzo's Oil, MichellePfeiffer for love Field, Mary McDonald for
Passionfish Uh, Catherine Daneuve, didhe say your name? Daneuve? That
(19:15):
Daniew's endition? And then Emma Thompsonwon for Howard's end Emma Thompson, so
you know that's a good one.Best Supporting Actor. Listen to this category.
Here. You had David Paymer forMister Saturday Night. You had Al
Pacino for Glen Garry Glenn Ross.You had Jack Nicholson for a Few Good
(19:41):
Men. You had Jay Davidson forThe Crime Game. And it went to
Gene Hackman for Unforgiven. Yeah,that was the Unforgiven here, and then
I'll just do Best Actor. I'lldo Best Actors so everyone knows. The
nominees were Denzel Washington for Malcolm X, Stephen Ray for The Crying Game,
(20:04):
Clint Eastwood for Unforgiven, Robert DowneyJunior for Chaplain, and then it went
to al Pacino for Scent of aWoman. He was nominated for Actor and
Supporting Actor. Yeah, and sometimesthat's not good because they'll cancel each other
out. Didn't worked out for him, Yeah he did find so Yeah,
(20:30):
good years A clue, so clue. Well it cuts off right here when
Bill Henderson's investigating. But I dolike the moment where mister Green, I
didn't do it, and and Wadsworthlike reluctantly hands him the key and then
he goes to the door, opensit, sees that it's a cop,
(20:51):
and then immediately shuts the door andthen opens it. It was a great
Green moment. It's a nice MichaelMcKeon. Yeah, silly, it's one
of the silly moments and clue oryou kind of know it's what's about to
happen. But it's funny anyway.When you see it with an audience even
now, people still laugh. It'sfunny. It's good. People still chuckle.
There's not a lot citcent. Buthe doesn't want to see a cop.
No, It's like, yeah,I mean, here's the thing if
(21:14):
you're innocent. It's only going tomake things more complicated. Yes, exactly,
so it is one of it isone of the funny moments from Michael
McKee, especially in this minute.Not a whole lot else happens other than
the questioning of an event and thenthe introduction of the of the cop to
the crew. They do have thatfun moment where they're hoping that he'll go
(21:36):
away, like somebody's going to gothrough all the trouble of going through the
gate, which I still don't knowhow they're getting through that gate down at
the bottom of the hill by yougot up there too and rang the doorbell
in the middle of the rain,and maybe he'll just ring it once and
go, oh, maybe nobody's home. There's eight cars out here and all
the lights are on, and Ijust heard a chandelier break as I was
(22:00):
walking up the driveway. And weknow what the ultimate demise he's going to
meet from mister Bill Henderson. He'sgonna not not work out too well for
him in this movie. But haveyou noticed this aside from the cook who
might have been the first person toshow up to the house that night,
Okay, maybe it's between her anda vette, But I'm gonna bet it's
(22:21):
a cook because she has to preparethe most. Other than the cook,
the last person to show up hasbeen killed, right like mister Body the
motorist see the cop. Anybody thatcomes through that door is the last person
comes to the door pretty much isgonna get got. Yeah, and Bill
(22:47):
Henderson will not be the last oneto try to come through that door.
Next one doesn't even get in thedoor. No, So to the stoop.
The stoop is the bad spot,you know. Don't be in that
stoop. Don't be stupid in thestoop. You stupend stoopid, you get
stuck, you go to the stupidgonna be stupid. To quote the great
Doctor Dre, never catch me slipbecause if I slip, then I'm slipping.
(23:11):
Sound logic, right, yeah,yeah, sound logic for sure.
But Jeff Smith, anything you wantto add here in our clothing, I
just I do real quick. Uh. A couple of like a week and
a half ago, I posted justfor fun on on the Clue documentary Instagram,
which is a Clue documentary, andwas asking, you know, once
(23:34):
and for all favorite lines from Clue, what are they? And the usual
ones came up. But I likeit because there's some of them are are
a little odd, like this iswar Peacock pops up a lot, which
is great. My current fave BeckyPortraits says is I said if a lot
(23:57):
of I didn't know it was thatfree talking about America. But here's the
here's the controversial one. But Ilike this and I get what he's saying.
Nathan Schultz, All right, Nathan. Nathan says Clue is my fave
movie of all time. I've probablygot the world record for seeing it the
most times. But God help me, the Flames line is old and tired.
(24:26):
There's a whole movie filled with betterone liners. Hot take a little
angry. However, I get itbecause that's kind of a line that people
that maybe have seen the movie onceor twice remember because it's quirky. But
even in the audience when you seeit now, people will kind of chuckle
(24:48):
when they know it's coming, andthey'll laugh while she's doing it, and
they always laugh right when Watsworth takesover again with his recreation, but it
isn't the biggest laugh, So Iget it. Nathan, You're right there,
there are there's a movie full ofwonderful lines, and that just happens
to be the most famous. Iguess that's the one on the T shirt.
(25:11):
Yes, it is the one.It's a great trick, should be
on the T shirt. Now,it's a great trick is going up as
one of my favorite ones. NowI will understand what he's saying. I
get because it is the line thatis most often quoted and then people get
tired of it because we hear itall the time. Blah blah blah blah
blah. But I'm going to stillstand by Missus White and say it is
(25:36):
a top three line in the movie. And there's a reason why it was
mimable. There was a reason whyit's had a life after clue and after
death. But it's good because it'sone of those lines that works. You
can throw, you can say aday to day and I think those those
(25:56):
are the one lines that people like. And that's why I line like I
said, or to take a longstory short too late. Lines like that
that you can use in real lifeand the cool kids will go, I
know what you're doing. That's aclue, and then you'll the half the
time more and more than half,I know I say lines from movies to
(26:17):
people all the time and just watch, but do you know what I did?
Do you know? And then usuallythey don't know any Most people don't
know my references your name as upback to the Future of Ficionado. There
are things that kind of casual backto the future fans always say that you
go, okay, everybody knows that. Calm down, Yeah, I mean
probably great, Scott, this isheavy, Yeah, I mean those are
(26:41):
those are odd jigawatts. H youmade a time machine out of a doloreum.
But I'm I'm thinking of like maybesome some you know, ones that
like I quote that I sometimes don'teven realize or from the movie right,
but like I sometimes quote the correctedversions of what Biff is trying to say,
(27:06):
make like a tree and leave,Make like a tree and leave,
like making a tree and get outof here, or take a long walk
off a short peer, or you'reabout as useful as a what I said
screen door submarine is one that Iuse. Dark dark Butt had my favorite
one and and people can probably findthis online, is that I was doing
(27:27):
the wrestling show and I was stalkingto one of the wrestlers. His named
Sean Hendrick shout to Sean, hopeyou're doing well man, and he uh
had net. We were talking beforethe show and he was like, yeah,
you know, Brad, like Iknow you're always posting stuff about Back
to the Future. You know,I've never seen the movie. And I'm
like, you've never seen the movie. I was like, how's that even
(27:47):
were the same age? How's thateven possible? He's like, I've never
seen it. I said, okay, this is what and he was wrestling
that night. I said, tonight, when you go out there on the
commentary, I'm going to get inas many need Back to the Future references
as I possibly can during your match. So I want you to watch your
match back once you can hear it, and then then watch the movie and
(28:11):
then watch your match again, youknow, to see like what you picked
up on. And but one ofmy favorite ones that I was able to
get in there, and it ismy favorite line from Back to the Future
is when they're at the dinner tablein the fifties at the Bain's household and
Marty leaves in a hurry, andthen Lorraine's dad goes, he's an idiot,
(28:33):
comes from upbringing his parents are probablyidiots too. It's the best line
in the movie. It's the bestline in the move, you know.
But Robert Zamechas's favorite line. Andback to the future, here we go.
We'll wrap on this is when they'reat the Enchantment under the Sea dance
and Leah Thompson makes the move onCalvin Klein and kisses him, and then
(28:53):
she backs up and she goes,when I kiss you, I'm kissing my
brother. That's his favorite line inthe movie. That's his favorite line.
But what she should have said isis it common for first cousins to marry?
(29:17):
Yeah? That is. There gonnabe something computer system I could use
to look up important information. Andthe number one thing I'm gonna look is
if we can get married. That'sa call back to a previous episode,
Ladia gentleman. You know when Iwent to go when I went to go
get my marriage license with my wife, when we have to go get your
(29:38):
license before you can get married,right, that's one of the questions they
ask you. Are you knowingly relatedto one another? Are you family in
any way? Yeah? I guess, And I love how that's there.
That's their barrier, like if youcan clear this hurdle by answering the one
(29:59):
question. Yeah, it's really easyto get married. Yeah, yeah,
it's incredibly easy, as long asyou're not related. As long as you're
not related, just pay your seventyfive? Do you knowingly know I'm not
one. I don't ask a lotof questions. No, we don't ask
any questions. I remember her fromThanksgiving ten years ago when she was twelve.
(30:22):
Yeah, very strange anyway, COVIDJeff Smith, it's been a pleasure.
Yeah, we'll be back with minutefifty eight here next week Aclude Movie
Podcast and uh yeah, and thenwe'll see you then see you, Jeff,
all right, yeah, I'll seeyou. Yeah. Here, we'll
do it. Okay. Well well, oh no, I don't want to
(30:44):
be out. What we want todo. We want to have white cook.
I love the black and white cookieagain. A night guy, A
night guy. Okay, guy
Oh, what have you done now? No, it was a lot lot
but yes, see for yourself.Classic. How did you know it was
unlocked? How did you know thatyou could get it? The gun?
(00:20):
I didn't. I think I wouldbreak it open, but it was open
already A likely story. Maybe they'lljust go away wait for it. I'm
(00:42):
going to open it. Why Ihave nothing to hide. I didn't do
it the key. Youill? Goodevening, sir. Yes, I found
an abandoned card down near the gatesof this house. Did the driver come
(01:03):
in for any Hello? Everybody,Welcome back to clude Movie podcast. We
break down the nineteen five movie oneminute at a time. It is the
day after or the week after Thanksgiving, so I hope you all had a
lovely Thanksgiving break. My name isBrad Gilmore, joined by Jeff Smith.
(01:25):
Jeff I would say, let's getinto the specific and the nitty gritty of
what happened in Arizona at Thanksgiving?What happened Gilmore? And we're not gonna
do that just year. We're gonnapump the brakes on it because there is
it's a media episode here this week. Is that we that we releastours from
the airport alone that we want towe want to get into, but we
(01:49):
will. What stands out to youabout that? Yeah, let's just pretend
like we're recording this even like beforeThanksgiving, so it's not even in our
minds, right, all the thingsthat happened. Let's pretend this is like
the Sunday before thanks Right, whatstood out this minute? Well, this
is an excellent minute. This iscontinuing. After Yvet shoots the door to
(02:13):
let Mustard and Scarlet get out,chandelier comes crashing down. Missus peacock now
taking ahead, how did you knowwhere the gun come from? How did
you get it? And then theyall go check and yep, that cabinet
is open and it's just full ofweapons. Yeah, very strange, very
strange. Now, yeah, andthey all gather around. It's a nice,
(02:36):
nice moment again to have them alljust standing. It is a great
moment to see them all together.But okay, Yvet is questioned about the
gun and why does she throw iton the ground. Oh yeah, so
that's true the classic classic, evenhorror movie tropes. She goes here,
(02:57):
let me go show you the opencabinet and we'll throw the gun underneath the
chandelier. There's no logical reason forit. It's for it's for the end.
That just like we talked about withwhy did Colonel Mustard shove her into
that position and then stand there?I mean it was just to set up
dropping chandelier. Yeah, it's justto set it up. Movie is movie.
(03:22):
Sometimes movie is gonna movie, andI'm fine with it. But that
was just like one of those thingsto where if you're watching the stage player,
you're like, uh, you droppedthe gun. Yeah, go back,
Hey, you dropped it. Youmight want to go pick up a
stage, a stage handed sneak underneathit very weird. They give it a
(03:42):
nice bit close up there. Theywant you to know that gun is right
there. It's there. It's important. Remember she drops the gun. Now.
Her explanation was, I didn't knowit was unlocked. I was just
going to have to break it open. Okay, I said, I'm such
calling bs on vet. I don'tbelieve it. Well, she said,
(04:04):
if you look at peacock and whiteand actually even Mustard in the back.
Your guy. He when she says, I think I was break it open,
but it doesn't reopen. Uh,he like puts his hand on his
forehead like Oh good God, thatsome bs right here. It's some majors
(04:25):
I want. I'm so curious howthe scene would have played out if the
bell had never rung, Because they'vegot a vet almost literally in a corner
ending in front of the broken cabinet. That's all the mob mentality is now
here there. Don't believe a wordshe's saying. What would have happened if
that build it? Right? Ithink this movie would have ended soon because
(04:46):
they would have They probably would havelocked her up somewhere. But again,
if you okay, now, I'mdefending a vet for some reason. If
you're a Vet and you are theMada right right, and you feel like
the walls are closing in, Iwould not drop that revolver for anything.
(05:09):
Like if I'm if I'm the badperson, I'm picking it up. I'm
killing all of y'all to get outof here, right. She does have
two more bullets, she does.We know this, she does, so
she could use those. But dothey know that, Uh well, they're
(05:30):
probably not counting yet, but theyknow that one shot has been used for
mister body. One to the chandelier, two to the door. That's one
plus one plus two two four onelater first second telegram, that's five and
six will be the last one.Yeah, so she does have two bullets,
(05:50):
but would she blow it all rightthere? She still I think thinks
that she's got them all fooled.She's responsible or something. I don't I
don't know what, but she's definitelyresponsible for something. And perhaps she's thinking
that she can wheel away at Iam just the Well that's what ye.
Well, that's why I think thescene would have been if the bell had
(06:12):
a rung. But now everyone getsdistracted because cop shows up. Bill Henderson
Cop. Yeah, we're about totalk about Yeah, we know that he
really observed that that car earlier inthe scene, very thorough observation of the
car. Nothing gets this great cop, not except for the broken chandelier in
(06:34):
the middle of the room and abunch of murder suspects. Well there's there's
that. We'll see you later too. So if you're in this house all
this is going on and the doorbellrings, I don't care if I am
innocent, I'm not answering the doorbecause it seems like everybody who comes here
(06:57):
gets killed. Well, yeah,look what happened. The last guy at
that came to the door. He'sright in the other room. Guys,
take a look, and who knowswho could be there? Could have been
he was on the phone with hiswife. She could have we assumed because
we saw the ring. So somebodyon Instagram pointed out that there's a picture
that jeffre Kramer posted a while backon his Instagram and it's it's the shot
(07:18):
that's that's thrown in the fireplace ofthe motorists and Mustard together. Yeah,
Mustard has a wedding ring. Ontwo there's a Missus Colonel Missus Mustard who
I'm still proud of our wedding ringanalysis. That was a good one we
(07:38):
had. I think we've had sometop five moments and that is definitely well
so far. If I'm going torank our top discoveries, our top four,
there's four that come to mind.One was in the last episode,
which is It's a great trick.That was pretty nice. Yeah, oh
that's a great one. The weddingring is another one. Obviously, people
(08:01):
remember our camera blocking thing of ofMissus Peacock and the and the in the
cook and the cook that's a majorone. And then the mister Green theory,
and then the mister Green theory,So we should have five because that's
a good number. So who knowswhat that Look, we still got forty
(08:22):
happen in real time, folks,So we can't plan these things. We
can't plan it. Okay, let'sthen talk about Bill Henderson. Now here's
the thing. As a as afan of this movie, as a fan
of Fletch, there's a few othermovies that he popped up in over the
years. City Slickers, which wasthe wrestling movie he was in. He
(08:52):
was in a what are you in? The Lethal Weapon? I feel like
I remember him in Lethal Weapon orsomething something like or maybe it was a
Diehard I remember him in something likethat. But Bill Henderson. Let's look
up Bill Henderson here. I'm lookinghim up right now. And as I
look up Bill Henderson, the firstthing that pops up is Bill is the
(09:16):
name of my second cousin. Isit okay for me to marry him?
That's so weird, very strange.He he was in Okay, this might
be your Lethal Weapon. He wasin Maverick with Mel Gibson. Do you
see Maverick? Directed by Richard Donnerwho directed and Danny Glover. Spoilers for
(09:41):
Maverick, the forty year old movie. Danny Glover has a cameo on it,
and they play as a bank robber. He steals mel Gibson's money in
a bank robbery, and then whenthey look at each other, there's like
a look of recognition and even theCatago's bed like you know, the Eric
(10:01):
Clapton with the weapon guitar nineteen ninetyfour, Maverick, everybody I've never seen
let's see. Oh it's it's it'sgood. If you're okay with Melil Gibson.
Yeah, yeah, you're right,No holds bart, How I got
into college? Oh that's uh savage. Steve Holland, who directed Better Off
Dead and One Crazy Summer, Fantastic, John Cusack movies that he hates,
(10:28):
Wisdom, the Emilia West of hisdirectorial debut with a young Demi Moore,
a lot of TV Fletch, Factsof Life, Yes, the Ventures of
Buck RUBONSI Across the Eighth Dimension.But he's also, you know, best
known he was an actor, buthe was also a blues musician. This
(10:50):
is what I'm reading. Oh hey, he was angry patient in Lethal Weapon
for yes, when they all getasked, right right? So he was
angry patient leath the weapon for butlisten to this, Hey, this baby,
old baby, this I did notknow. Henderson was born in Chicago,
Illinois. Henderson began his professional musiccareer in nineteen fifty two. He's
(11:15):
born nineteen twenty six, performing inChicago with Ramsey Lewis, and began recording
as a leader after a move toNew York in nineteen fifty eight. I'm
assuming a bandleader. He subsequently recordedwith jazz pianist Horace Silver phenomenal Name on
the vocal version of Silver's signor Blues, which was a jukebox hit in the
(11:35):
mid nineteen fifties and remains one ofJazz label Blue Notes top selling singles.
Additionally, Henderson performed and recorded withOscar Peterson and Jimmy Smith, count Bassie
Yusuf Latif Awesome Name, and EddieHarris. He was under contract to the
VJ label between nineteen fifty eight nineteensixty one and recorded his first album,
(12:00):
Bill Henderson Sings, which features trumpeterBooker Little amongst side men. Okay,
there's a little more than I'll getto. Beginning of the mid nineteen seventies,
he frequently appeared on television in supporting, usually one time roles. His
film roles have followed a similar trendminor and supporting roles. Henderson also recorded
his own vocal tracks as King Bluesfor the comedy film Get Crazy, and
(12:24):
Henderson made a guest vocal appearance onCharlie Hayden's album The Art of Song in
nineteen ninety nine. Look at thatan accomplished musician. Yeah, and he
did basically all the TV shows workingactors did back in the day. He
did Happy Days, did Sanford andSound, He did Incredible HAULK Jefferson's What's
(12:48):
Happening, Good Times, mcdvortro inthe Heat of the Night, Heart to
Heart Er and he was in SilverStreak with Richard Pryor and Wilder My mid
can't Jump? Is he? Ishe? You know? There's a podcast
called The Rerewatchables. Bill Simmons hostsfrom the Ringer And there's a thing they
(13:11):
do where they always say that guyAward right where they say, oh,
it's that guy. Is Bill Hendersonthe ultimate that guy. He's a pretty
big that guy. I think thathe's a he's a that guy and he's
a oh yeah guy because when youI think people have seen a lot of
stuff that he's done and just don'trealize that that he's been the same person.
(13:37):
So when you go, hey,you've seen Clue, oh yeah,
the cop right, but you've seenCity Slickers, the guys that do the
ice cream. Oh yeah, okay, that's him, and then yeah,
Fletch same. Where do you standingup? Where do you stand on Jack
Palance winning the Oscar for City Slickers? Well, there are many times is
(14:00):
where I like The Departed, it'snot Martin Scorsese's best movie, No cat
Me, but that's that's what hewon. It's kind of like there are
certain legacy awards when they finally getnominated for something like Jack Palance is,
you know, a legend in film, and he hadn't done anything, as
(14:22):
I guess, he was a tangoingcash, which is excellent, but he
uh, I think definitely he didn'twin that award for City Slickers. He
won that award for being Jack Palance. Okay, career, I mean that
happens all the time. I thinkwhen you they finally get nominated for something
and you go, oh yeah,well, that's kind of like when you
(14:45):
you speed all the time and youfinally get a ticket and you were really
going that fast. But I deservea ticket at some point, and this
one maybe wasn't the one I shouldhave been pulled over for, but it
caught up with it. Yeah,City Slickers is his speed ticket? It
so to to to make this speakingwhere to connect us back to clude Jonathan
(15:07):
Lynn movie, My cousin Vinnie.Where do we stand on Maurrissaito May?
Sorry it was Jack Palance that gavethe award to Versito because he had won
the your and everybody thought that hejust read the last name on the nomination
list again and that's how she won. Who was she up against that year?
(15:28):
It's actually a great question. Canyou look that up? Because yes
I can. First of all,I want to talk about a Mazieur crush
forever is Maurita toll May. Thatis a that's a constant we think about
her, even as Aunt May andthe New Spider Man movies. It's like,
man, Aunt May Fire, whatare you coming up with? I
(15:52):
like May and the and the Ramieverse. That's who I thought was Well,
she looks like an ant May.She looks like a grand great ant.
Okay, so she was nominated withJudy Davis. This doesn't say that.
Unfortunately, the first one I lookedup doesn't say what they were nominated
for. But Judy Davis, thiswas ninety four. Okay, let's see
(16:18):
Joe plow Right, Vanessa Redgrave,and Miranda Richardson. So a lot of
accents, yes, a lot ofaccents. I'm looking for the probably the
sixty six. My biological clock isticking like this. She won Best Supporting
(16:40):
right, not Best Actress. You'rehaving trouble finding this. Ninety five?
When when did the movie come out? My cousin, VINNIEH two? Okay,
(17:00):
I know people are just in theold bar our internet searching, but
sorry, everybody out they're yelling ninetytwo. Everybody knows Academy Awards nineteen sixty
fourth. I'm trying to see whoshe was actually nominated up against, so
it'll be the next year's ceremony.Sixty fifth. Okay, here we get
(17:21):
your favorite line, cousin, it'sprobably my biological clock sticking like this,
or yeah, you blend. MirandaRichardson was Damage for the movie Damage,
Okay, never heard of it.Vanessa Redgrave was for Howard's End. Okay,
that was dominated for a lot thatyear. Joan Plowwright was nominated four
(17:44):
Enchanted April Judy Davis for a Husbandsand Wives. I have heard of that
one. Oh what are Yellen?And she's that too, Murissa to May.
If memory serves, Judy Davis wasthe run her that year. They
thought it was going to be herand it went Tori. It was.
She was very good in that movie. And that was a time where a
(18:07):
lot of supporting actresses from Woody Allenmovies were winning, Like Mira Servino won
Best Supporting Actress for her Woody Allenmovie. Uh yeah, Diane Weese won
Best Sporting Actress for Boltover Broadway,which is Woody Allen movie. So I
think she was the front runner.And then everybody was shocked that the silly
Little Courtroom comedy. Well yeah,but she's great in it when you watch
it, Oh, she's phenomenal.Supporting actresses and supporting actor, but usually
(18:32):
supporting actress. Sometimes some oddball onesget thrown out there. It's kind of
a well, it's like I'm aRobert Junior in Tropic Thunder was nominated for
an Academy Award. Right, theymight throw a comedy fun comedy part in
there. This is again. Iknow we're a little off the beaten path,
but I just want to read thesejust for historical context so people can
(18:52):
say, Okay, well what whoelse won for the acting categories that year?
Because that's how my mind works.Best act Interist. The nominees were
Susan Sarandon for Lorenzo's Oil, MichellePfeiffer for love Field, Mary McDonald for
Passionfish Uh, Catherine Daneuve, didhe say your name? Daneuve? That
(19:15):
Daniew's endition? And then Emma Thompsonwon for Howard's end Emma Thompson, so
you know that's a good one.Best Supporting Actor. Listen to this category.
Here. You had David Paymer forMister Saturday Night. You had Al
Pacino for Glen Garry Glenn Ross.You had Jack Nicholson for a Few Good
(19:41):
Men. You had Jay Davidson forThe Crime Game. And it went to
Gene Hackman for Unforgiven. Yeah,that was the Unforgiven here, and then
I'll just do Best Actor. I'lldo Best Actors so everyone knows. The
nominees were Denzel Washington for Malcolm X, Stephen Ray for The Crying Game,
(20:04):
Clint Eastwood for Unforgiven, Robert DowneyJunior for Chaplain, and then it went
to al Pacino for Scent of aWoman. He was nominated for Actor and
Supporting Actor. Yeah, and sometimesthat's not good because they'll cancel each other
out. Didn't worked out for him, Yeah he did find so Yeah,
(20:30):
good years A clue, so clue. Well it cuts off right here when
Bill Henderson's investigating. But I dolike the moment where mister Green, I
didn't do it, and and Wadsworthlike reluctantly hands him the key and then
he goes to the door, opensit, sees that it's a cop,
(20:51):
and then immediately shuts the door andthen opens it. It was a great
Green moment. It's a nice MichaelMcKeon. Yeah, silly, it's one
of the silly moments and clue oryou kind of know it's what's about to
happen. But it's funny anyway.When you see it with an audience even
now, people still laugh. It'sfunny. It's good. People still chuckle.
There's not a lot citcent. Buthe doesn't want to see a cop.
No, It's like, yeah,I mean, here's the thing if
(21:14):
you're innocent. It's only going tomake things more complicated. Yes, exactly,
so it is one of it isone of the funny moments from Michael
McKee, especially in this minute.Not a whole lot else happens other than
the questioning of an event and thenthe introduction of the of the cop to
the crew. They do have thatfun moment where they're hoping that he'll go
(21:36):
away, like somebody's going to gothrough all the trouble of going through the
gate, which I still don't knowhow they're getting through that gate down at
the bottom of the hill by yougot up there too and rang the doorbell
in the middle of the rain,and maybe he'll just ring it once and
go, oh, maybe nobody's home. There's eight cars out here and all
the lights are on, and Ijust heard a chandelier break as I was
(22:00):
walking up the driveway. And weknow what the ultimate demise he's going to
meet from mister Bill Henderson. He'sgonna not not work out too well for
him in this movie. But haveyou noticed this aside from the cook who
might have been the first person toshow up to the house that night,
Okay, maybe it's between her anda vette, But I'm gonna bet it's
(22:21):
a cook because she has to preparethe most. Other than the cook,
the last person to show up hasbeen killed, right like mister Body the
motorist see the cop. Anybody thatcomes through that door is the last person
comes to the door pretty much isgonna get got. Yeah, and Bill
(22:47):
Henderson will not be the last oneto try to come through that door.
Next one doesn't even get in thedoor. No, So to the stoop.
The stoop is the bad spot,you know. Don't be in that
stoop. Don't be stupid in thestoop. You stupend stoopid, you get
stuck, you go to the stupidgonna be stupid. To quote the great
Doctor Dre, never catch me slipbecause if I slip, then I'm slipping.
(23:11):
Sound logic, right, yeah,yeah, sound logic for sure.
But Jeff Smith, anything you wantto add here in our clothing, I
just I do real quick. Uh. A couple of like a week and
a half ago, I posted justfor fun on on the Clue documentary Instagram,
which is a Clue documentary, andwas asking, you know, once
(23:34):
and for all favorite lines from Clue, what are they? And the usual
ones came up. But I likeit because there's some of them are are
a little odd, like this iswar Peacock pops up a lot, which
is great. My current fave BeckyPortraits says is I said if a lot
(23:57):
of I didn't know it was thatfree talking about America. But here's the
here's the controversial one. But Ilike this and I get what he's saying.
Nathan Schultz, All right, Nathan. Nathan says Clue is my fave
movie of all time. I've probablygot the world record for seeing it the
most times. But God help me, the Flames line is old and tired.
(24:26):
There's a whole movie filled with betterone liners. Hot take a little
angry. However, I get itbecause that's kind of a line that people
that maybe have seen the movie onceor twice remember because it's quirky. But
even in the audience when you seeit now, people will kind of chuckle
(24:48):
when they know it's coming, andthey'll laugh while she's doing it, and
they always laugh right when Watsworth takesover again with his recreation, but it
isn't the biggest laugh, So Iget it. Nathan, You're right there,
there are there's a movie full ofwonderful lines, and that just happens
to be the most famous. Iguess that's the one on the T shirt.
(25:11):
Yes, it is the one.It's a great trick, should be
on the T shirt. Now,it's a great trick is going up as
one of my favorite ones. NowI will understand what he's saying. I
get because it is the line thatis most often quoted and then people get
tired of it because we hear itall the time. Blah blah blah blah
blah. But I'm going to stillstand by Missus White and say it is
(25:36):
a top three line in the movie. And there's a reason why it was
mimable. There was a reason whyit's had a life after clue and after
death. But it's good because it'sone of those lines that works. You
can throw, you can say aday to day and I think those those
(25:56):
are the one lines that people like. And that's why I line like I
said, or to take a longstory short too late. Lines like that
that you can use in real lifeand the cool kids will go, I
know what you're doing. That's aclue, and then you'll the half the
time more and more than half,I know I say lines from movies to
(26:17):
people all the time and just watch, but do you know what I did?
Do you know? And then usuallythey don't know any Most people don't
know my references your name as upback to the Future of Ficionado. There
are things that kind of casual backto the future fans always say that you
go, okay, everybody knows that. Calm down, Yeah, I mean
probably great, Scott, this isheavy, Yeah, I mean those are
(26:41):
those are odd jigawatts. H youmade a time machine out of a doloreum.
But I'm I'm thinking of like maybesome some you know, ones that
like I quote that I sometimes don'teven realize or from the movie right,
but like I sometimes quote the correctedversions of what Biff is trying to say,
(27:06):
make like a tree and leave,Make like a tree and leave,
like making a tree and get outof here, or take a long walk
off a short peer, or you'reabout as useful as a what I said
screen door submarine is one that Iuse. Dark dark Butt had my favorite
one and and people can probably findthis online, is that I was doing
(27:27):
the wrestling show and I was stalkingto one of the wrestlers. His named
Sean Hendrick shout to Sean, hopeyou're doing well man, and he uh
had net. We were talking beforethe show and he was like, yeah,
you know, Brad, like Iknow you're always posting stuff about Back
to the Future. You know,I've never seen the movie. And I'm
like, you've never seen the movie. I was like, how's that even
(27:47):
were the same age? How's thateven possible? He's like, I've never
seen it. I said, okay, this is what and he was wrestling
that night. I said, tonight, when you go out there on the
commentary, I'm going to get inas many need Back to the Future references
as I possibly can during your match. So I want you to watch your
match back once you can hear it, and then then watch the movie and
(28:11):
then watch your match again, youknow, to see like what you picked
up on. And but one ofmy favorite ones that I was able to
get in there, and it ismy favorite line from Back to the Future
is when they're at the dinner tablein the fifties at the Bain's household and
Marty leaves in a hurry, andthen Lorraine's dad goes, he's an idiot,
(28:33):
comes from upbringing his parents are probablyidiots too. It's the best line
in the movie. It's the bestline in the move, you know.
But Robert Zamechas's favorite line. Andback to the future, here we go.
We'll wrap on this is when they'reat the Enchantment under the Sea dance
and Leah Thompson makes the move onCalvin Klein and kisses him, and then
(28:53):
she backs up and she goes,when I kiss you, I'm kissing my
brother. That's his favorite line inthe movie. That's his favorite line.
But what she should have said isis it common for first cousins to marry?
(29:17):
Yeah? That is. There gonnabe something computer system I could use
to look up important information. Andthe number one thing I'm gonna look is
if we can get married. That'sa call back to a previous episode,
Ladia gentleman. You know when Iwent to go when I went to go
get my marriage license with my wife, when we have to go get your
(29:38):
license before you can get married,right, that's one of the questions they
ask you. Are you knowingly relatedto one another? Are you family in
any way? Yeah? I guess, And I love how that's there.
That's their barrier, like if youcan clear this hurdle by answering the one
(29:59):
question. Yeah, it's really easyto get married. Yeah, yeah,
it's incredibly easy, as long asyou're not related. As long as you're
not related, just pay your seventyfive? Do you knowingly know I'm not
one. I don't ask a lotof questions. No, we don't ask
any questions. I remember her fromThanksgiving ten years ago when she was twelve.
(30:22):
Yeah, very strange anyway, COVIDJeff Smith, it's been a pleasure.
Yeah, we'll be back with minutefifty eight here next week Aclude Movie
Podcast and uh yeah, and thenwe'll see you then see you, Jeff,
all right, yeah, I'll seeyou. Yeah. Here, we'll
do it. Okay. Well well, oh no, I don't want to
(30:44):
be out. What we want todo. We want to have white cook.
I love the black and white cookieagain. A night guy, A
night guy. Okay, guy
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!