September 2, 2024 • 29 mins
Six blackmail victims are invited to an isolated mansion by a man who knows a dark secret from each of their pasts. On arrival, each is given a pseudonym drawn from Cluedo before being introduced to the blackmailer. Each is handed a weapon, at which point the lights are switched off and the blackmailer is killed. Can the guests uncover the murderer before they all become victims? Brad Gilmore and Jeff Smith have a lot in common. Both are huge fans of the 1985 movie Clue, and both have made significant contributions to the film's legacy. Brad is the author of Back from the Future: A Celebration of the Greatest Time Travel Story Ever Told, and Jeff is the director of Who Done It: A Clue Documentary. In their new podcast, Clue the Movie Podcast, Brad and Jeff watch the movie one minute at a time and break it down. Along the way, they share behind-the-scenes stories, trivia, and their own personal insights. Whether you're a diehard fan of Clue or you've never seen it before, Clue the Movie Podcast is a must-listen.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, have done.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
But it was dead.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
But why none of you even met him till tonight?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You're mister Phi. Wait a minute, so who like you?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
My butler?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Oh shucks, he was expendable, like all of you. I'm
grateful to you all for disposing of my network of
spies and informers. Saved me a lot of trouble. Now
there's no evidence against me.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
This all has nothing to do with my disappearing nuclear
physicist husband or Colonel Mustard's work with the new top
secret fusion bomb.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No communism is just a red herring.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But the police will be here any minute. You'll never
get away with.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This, any of you. Why should the police come? Nobody
is called?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
You mean, oh my god, of course, So.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Why shouldn't we get away with it. We'll stack the
bodies in the cellar, lock it, leave quietly, one at
a time, and forget that any of this ever happened,
and you'll just.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You'll just go on blackmailing us all.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to Clute Movie Podcast, where we
break down the nineteen eighty five col Class movie Clube
one minute at a time.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I did that a little staicado and in rhythm.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
That was my name is the boat Brad Gilmore, joined
as always by the million dollar podcaster Jeff Smith and.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh if only that were TIERO, Well it should be
a few dollars.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
And we're joined this week by a man who his
actual first appearance in minute ninety one of podcast, and
he decided to stick around for an entire.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Week, Jeff to join us.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I know, as we say our final few episodes of
Cludeing the Movie Podcast, he is Ben Ripley, Ben, how's
it going my way?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's good? And another book and wearing exactly the same clothes,
which is really it's very strange that.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Well you've been sitting in that a little corner that
we put you in for a week.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You must be starving.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
The thing, Ben, We're going to get into a lot
about Ben. This is really what this episode is called
all about Ben. But before we get all about Ben,
I want to know because people can't see it, So
for the benefit of those who can, which is me,
it's can we see what do we got going on
in the background here?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
We got a lot of clues.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, yeah, I did do a little bit of a
display because I'm a massive nerd, so I've got all
my I've got one. This isn't even all of it.
This is some of my cludo, the clue reference things.
I've even't got a candlesticks who.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I've heard of that I am?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I am, And it's.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Not a podcast. He's in the documentary, right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I did point out to Jeff at the time when
this first came out that I love how the fact
on this on the sleeve are only five bullets.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I like that. I have no idea if that was
I would love to think that it was, but maybe
it was the one.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is still in the gun you So that's right?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah, one plus I get it, two plus.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Plus plus two plus one plus one plus two plus one.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Even if you're well, there's one pless one, not one
plus one plus two pless one.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Shut up?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So Ben, Ben, You're welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
We're excited to have you for those of you who
are for people listening who might not have seen who
did a documentary. First of all, shame on you and
are unfamiliar with you. What is your clue origin story?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, so this was back I can't remember how old
I was. It would have been early teens and it
was on the channel BBC two in the UK one
week night, I think it was a Wednesday for Memory Wednesday.
It and my brother and I just sat down to watch.
I was always a huge and still i'm a massive
board game fan anyway, so I went, oh, my god,
(04:07):
I've not heard of this movie until I saw it
in the in the listings and we sat down and
watched it and rolled about laughing an awful lot, and
it was so influential to me. I started doing well.
I was already making films with my friend William. I
don't know if William's listening to this as well. He
(04:30):
and I used to make films together, basically spoof of
seventies stuff, you know, those kind of I can't report
you call them the Children's Film Foundation kind of films
where just you know, kids having adventures and everything, and
we did we did a few of those. And so
watching Clue made me write one called The Butler Didn't
(04:53):
Do It, in which I was a butler and a
bunch of people came to a house and lots of
people got murdered. And it had terrible jokes, I mean
absolutely terrible. One of the worst jokes. Actually, I don't
know is it one of the worst. I've got so
many bad ones. One was where the butler I say
to one of the one of the guests, said would
(05:13):
you care for a cup of tea? And she says, no,
thank you. I don't think I could handle the responsibilities.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
It's not a good joke like that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But then I also did I started doing you know
when people have hobbies when they're young. They could be
playing football, they could be stamp collecting. I don't know
what other people were doing. I was organizing murder parties.
And I did so many, usually two or three a year,
and it was orchestrating it, it was finding a place
(05:44):
to host them, giving people characters. It was such a
lot of work. It wasn't one of those where you
around the table opening envelopes fun but I preferred ones
where people ran about the house and basically I played
ones with most of the time.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Well, first of all, I want to say this, and
this is going to be very deflating for you and
the listeners. I've never been to a murder party, and
I've always wanted to do one. So if I find
myself in your neck of the woods, I would hope
that you would organize one in my honor, just kidding.
And secondly, okay, so y'all are obsessed at a young
age with these this story and these kind of movies,
(06:21):
and it's carried on until So when did though Clue
become the rewatched one?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Because we all have the movies that we like growing up,
but then at one point it's like, no, this is
my like for me, it's back to the future, and
then Clue is also in there as well. When did
it like kind of solidify itself in your.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was so quick. It was so quick because I
wanted it, because I taped it off the TV as well,
and I had to show everybody. So I had friends
over and we would watch it and watch it and
watch it. I even went to The Great Trouble. This
is so sad. We had two VCRs and I would
(07:00):
connect them up and I taped what from it. It
probably legal, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Sure, but I thin the Statute's pride past.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, hopefully, but I would tape it and re edit it.
So I had on three different cassettes, one with ending one,
one went end into with ending three so that I
could shuffle them up and put them in and not
know which ending I was going to get.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
That sounds so, Jeff, tell me your Ripley origin story.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
I put a call out to people on the socials
that just said this was years ago. It was even
years before the documentary was finished, and it just had
the idea we'll put together I get the very end.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Some just testimonials from Clue fans.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
And because I started to as I was making the documentary,
it first started out being just about the making of
the movie Clue, and then I started meeting people like
Ben who you know, really cared about the movie.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
As well, and that's why who's done the Clue documentary.
Half the first half is about making Clue. The second
half shifts to the fans. And Ben was one of
the submissions. And Ben's video.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
Was hard because you know, everybody gets like a few
seconds here there, and his the whole story basically that
I believe was part of it as well, talking about
recording it off of the BBC.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And then when he just.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Kind of goes into uh, I've seen it a thousand
times that actually recited it before we went on. He
talks about how when he's a film as a as
a film buff, which I am id quote his whole
line right now.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You know, when you edit your own movie, you watch
it over and over again.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
People expect your favorite film to be Sins the King
or Cossa Blanca, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
His clue was also the trailer. I believe that Barry
Line is in.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
The Who trailers, so he made the trailer as well,
and he shows in the documentary part of his collection
as well, which is definitely I've noticed, even if that's
not everything has grown since a few years ago that
that been did it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But yeah, yeah, Ben was one of the first.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Testimonials that that came in and definitely was definitely one
of my favorites.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
Definitely, as I say three times to really show that
I mean it.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
So you had the three cassette tapes bin it had
the three different endings that you edited together, which is amazing.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Which one did you find yourself watching the most?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay? Well, yeah, that's that's the thing, because yeah, this
is tough, because let's let's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
What's your.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
My least favorite ending?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's usually is.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
The real ending. I mean you know that everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's your least favorite.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, I love them all, but you've got to pick one,
and it is that one purely because of the Missus
White thing, the fact that she done it, and as
I messaged.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You the other day about this, because you've.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Mentioned in episode in minute ninety that's upstairs then suddenly
downstairs again. So he must have used the same magic
portal that she used to get from the master bedroom
to the billiard room. So that has always.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's set up. That's a portal. Yeah, was able to
do it? Yeah, Yeah, I think well, I.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Think he must have got something from the from the
from his dealings with the Clanet Transylvanian from Rocky Horror.
Let's let's say that.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, Tim Curry is is Cannon.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
He also works at a hotel in New York and
has to deal with that little Brady kid.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And he likes to rip off the arms of those
Brady kids when he's.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Brains exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Am I misremembering?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Or was Tim Curry in the McHale's Navy movie.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
They did it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In October, so he has been at a submarine.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Maybe I'm misremembering. Maybe he wasn't in McHale's Navy.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I don't think he's in Mchal's Navy, but he's in
The Hunter the movie was Kelsey Grammer.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Was Kelsey Grammar in Michal's Navy?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Or is that I think so? Or am I thinking
of I don't know, look.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
After yourselves, y'all talk amongst yourself.
Speaker 12 (11:23):
I did not see the McHale's Navy movie, and I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Don't put that out of the list for the next podcast.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, the only reason I've seen the McHale's Navy movie
was because this is I'm gonna now, I'm gonna sound
like a nerve bin. So you guess what I'm gonna
take it away from you is because it's directed by
a guy named Brian Spicer. And Brian Spicer also directed
the nineteen ninety five classic film The Mighty morphin Power
Rangers movie, which I was a big fanly so, by
(11:52):
the way, and I don't know if he ever did
another movie after this. Tom Arnold played Tom Maroold McHale. Man,
there's Tim Curry is major Vladikoff?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, what's the submarine movie with Kelsey Grammar? Then?
Because he was in a submarine movie too, I think
it's down periscope. It is.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think it is. I'm pretty sure I can see
him on the front cover.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So yeah, yeah, so in white. So Tim Curry did
two submarine movies.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
He did to KALs Navy and the I think the sequel,
The Hunt for October.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I think they're the same universal together. Listen, they got
Sean Connery to come back.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Listen to this cast real quick.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I'm sorry for the Arnold Deborah, Deborah Messing, ok, French Stewart,
Tommy David Allen, Tim Curry and Ernest Borgan.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Wow, how how nineties is this? What year?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
This is ninety seven?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, it's pretty nineties that cast. Yeah, screams. I mean
Tom marld By himself is archive the nineties.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Right right?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
So anyway back to Clue, Back to Clue. So the
endings for it?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, okay, So my favorite is actually the Miss Scarlet
ending just because I don't know, it just works. It
works for me completely, and Leslie and Warren just is fantastic.
I loved I loved the episode where you had her
on interviewing her because I was just such a gorgeous episode.
(13:30):
So yeah, that's my favorite. But I really do have
a soft spot for the Missus Peacock ending, mainly because
I love Missus Peacock. I think Aileen Brennan's performance is
just stunning, and the fact that she does, as you
mentioned previously, the way she kind of just changes and
becomes kind of evil for that last moment, the way
(13:51):
she changes her voice, and I don't know, she's just
glorious to watch. And she's got one of my favorite
lines in the entire movie, not in that ending, but
I've quoted it so many times in my life. You know, well,
someone's going to break the ice, and it might as
well be me. I mean, he's doing being a hostess.
It's parked my husband's work. And it's always difficult in
a group of your friends, me to get the first
(14:11):
first time to get acquainted. So I'm perfectly prepared start
the boiling. And they have absolutely no idea what we're
doing here, what I'm doing, Hey, what the space is back?
But I'm determined to enjoy myself and I'm very intrigued
to know mind the supers delicious, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Come on, man, can I get a great Scott?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Great Scot.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
That's the great Scott moment of the Week's great Scott.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I love her wow and it does. Her ending also
has the brilliant. Uh, mister Green, is that will be a.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's true?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I love those two endings.
Speaker 11 (14:45):
Morning.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
First of all, I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
My favorite line delivery in your quote you just gave
from miss Peacock where she's where they're at the dining table,
is where she like kind of goes up on the
determined her voice kind of I'm determined to enjoy.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I love that, man, it's so good. She is really good.
But you know what, I feel like Peacock doesn't get
a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And I will say that I feel this too, and
it's so unfair.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
It is unfair because she is the most in the pocket,
I think with every line delivery when you think about
obviously water Worth and everything is great, but she is
so in the pocket, never misses in her moment you're
gonna say something.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I was so you know how previously you've talked about
how Missus White reacts to everything, and you know, if
you try and watch the movie just watching her reactions,
do it with missus Peacock as well. Because there's a
brilliant moment where they're in the study and they everything's
explained as Professor Plump and she's nodding her head like
that and then it's still there or killed him, and
(15:53):
then she starts doing that. It's brilliant. I'm sorry, I
realized on a podcast and I'm shaking my head, but
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yes, now she doesn't agreement, and she goes, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Now for I'm going to ask this to the two
of you for this minute, specifically minute ninety two. Few
things are revealed, but the biggest is that Wadsworth was
mister body.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
All along right break my health.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
It is a heartbreaking moment, but as far as reveals go,
it is makes you go what and then though you go, wait,
how is that possible? Right, you started to try to
put it together. Why why are you mister?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Then? Why did the movie happen? If it's him? Why
did he play with all of us for an hour
and a half? Right?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
In't that kind of the conclusion.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Walked in the door?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I just think I think in this version, he's just unhinged.
And I think I've mentioned in a lot of posts
before that I think if this ending is true, then
you know, why is his butler going along with a plan?
And I just think he just told him it's a
murder party and just go along with it and didn't
(17:08):
realize he was actually going to get killed.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
So yeah, it does, which would explain why he pretends
to be dead too exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You know, He's like, oh, I I was supposed to
be shot, so i'll they hear and then if it
doesn't happen, I can get up, you know, And then
all of a sudden he's surprised by actually getting killed
for reals.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It made me so sad. I remember about thirteen years
old because we we fell in love with him so quickly.
We just heat it loves once worth. So it's heartbreaking
when you go, oh no, you're evil.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
He's taking care of us through the movie. He's helping us. Yeah, wow,
nothing makes sense that he's talkingself fast. It must be true.
I believe every word he says and he lies.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What is that?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
What is the term for that in a story? It's
something narrator the.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Uh oh, the utter liable narrator, liable.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Narrator, yeah, unreliable yeah yeah yeah, unreliable narrator.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Or in stage fright o spoilers.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So okay, now yeah, flashback fly.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So I'm a big Hitchcock fan as well, massive hits.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
So walk me through this then, is when you were
watching the film, did you try to do what I
think we all did is really try to put it
all together prior to the ending and go okay, this
is what I'm observing.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, okay, yeah. So did you ever find did you
like we did?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes? I think so. I mean, we're going back many
many years, aren't we?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I I love who done it? Anyway. I'm a big
Oak Christie fan and I always try to figure out
who done it? And with this I I was noticing
when people weren't there. So in the billiard room, when
you don't see Missus Peacock, it's like, where the hell
is she? I was piecing things together at that point.
(19:05):
I remember being shocked when it was announced the Evett
was part of it all that. I remember that blowing
my mind a little bit. But when because it was
on TV and they had all three ending, so I
remember when it said, but how about this? I thought, Oh,
we're going to go through each of the six characters,
all having their own time to do it. I honestly
(19:28):
thought that was going to happen, even though I could
see on the clock that you know, we didn't have
time to fit them all in, But I honestly thought
that was going to happen.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's It's kind of one of the things
that I love about, you know, the movie when I
was watching it for the you know, before we did
it this way, But when we did it this way,
it actually made me love this movie on a different
level than I did before, because I'm I really am
looking at it through a different prism. Okay, here's my
(19:56):
final question for you before we get you out of here, Ben,
and then Jeff, if you ever the thing to add
to the conversation, feel.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Free mister Green. Is this the real mister Green? Or
is this an impastor?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, okay, so I've already had a bit of a
rant about this to Jet not rant, but but no,
there's a sequence when we first see the old missionary guy,
what do you call him.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
The elderly evangelist.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's right when he comes to the door and you're
focusing on Missus Peacock because she's at the she's in
the forefront. You actually see mister Green step back a
little bit and he looks a little bit uncomfortable, and
it's almost as if he's just saying, you know, leave it,
I'm all over this. You can see him in his
FBI persona at that point, I'm convinced.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So yes, I do believe that mister Green isn't the
real mister Green.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
This is my been My favorite part of this show
is coming up with the fact that mister Green and
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I know, Jeff and I didn't come up with that.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Obviously, He's probably been talking about a million times, but
this is the first time I'm wrapping my mind around, Oh,
mister Green isn't mister Green.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
And I think even if it's not scripted for him
to be that way, I'm convinced that that's at least
how Michael McKean is playing it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think he decided even if it's not, he probably
what chance he went to Josh.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Lena said, so, I'm I'm just the eye guy all
the time, and Jonalyn probably.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Sure, why not? I won't remember, I will remember and
you know twenty years so do whatever you want.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Do whatever you who's going to see this movie nobody.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Right, especially who's gonna take it apart.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm not going to ask me to rank rank the
characters because I.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, no, let's get that out not so fast. What
is your ranking here?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
So last week, Lena, to remind everyone, Lina ranked from
least favorite to favorite, cop last Cook, the Motorist, Professor Plumb,
Missus Peacock way down.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I have a feeling Ben's is gonna be different.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Uh you Vet, mister Green, Colonel Mustard, this is white,
mister Body at number three, uh, Missus Scarlett, and then
what's worth at the top.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Insanity some of those, But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm definitely going to put most of the victims down
at the bottom, purely because of their their lack of
air time as it were. So I think it's only
it seems only fair to put missus ho the cook
at the bottom because we'll see us oh so briefly.
But I do love the fact she's got a chocolate
(22:53):
cheesecake on the side and said that's good. I think
then we i'd have to put them. No, I put
mister Boddy at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I think he deserved Oh god, that's awful thing to say,
but he deserves the bullet, but so have him. Then
I'd have the motorist. I think Bill Henderson is fantastic
as the cop so he's a little bit higher. Then,
oh this is this is why you might lynch me.
I'm going to put Professor Plumb next, mainly because yeah,
(23:33):
he doesn't get as many funny gags as far as
I'm said. And it's weird because this littill shock you.
When I first watched it, I didn't recognize him straight
away because obviously knew his brown.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He took me about.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's Judge Doom.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You know, yeah, that is because I think he looks
in clue. He looks normal actually anything, he's always Taxi
back to.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
The Future star Trek three.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Adams fairly, he never looks like a person.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
So yeah, when he's looking like it's like he's just
walked in off the street and didn't have his hair dud,
then yeah, we.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Don't know everyone's while his voice was give him away,
but he doesn't even have.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Like that big you know, Oh you have you have okay,
give it to me again, you have cooked so far?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay cook? Yeah, motorists cop Plumb. Then we're not going
to put the evangelist in here, are we. It's no
point because at the very bottom. Yeah, so then ivett
I love Colleen camp I think her performance is amazing
and she can she can wrestle next to Professor Plum
because we're in track twenty nine together. So yeah, we get.
(24:51):
Then we come to the next six. Okay, this is
going to be really difficult. I'm going to put mister
Green next. Then oh golly, then missus White I love
Meddling Khan, then Miss Scarlett. Then the we're top three.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think, yeah, yeah, colonel Colonel.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Mustard next, I think I was so heartbroken when he died.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
We need body.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Peacock is next, Okay, bodies at the bottom, yeah bottom, Yeah,
so the top three, number three is Mustard, Number two
is Peacock. Number one is what's with?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
So Wad's worth two for two in his his number.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
One rank deserved deservedly.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So oh man, that's tough though, But no love for body.
See that's that's a big difference between the two of you.
She had Peacock way down, you have Peacock second, she
had body way up and you have them all the
way at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I will say Lina is right. He did have amazing shoes.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
So kudos to Michael Kaplan, coster designer. He goes to
the top of the crew and a little bit of
love for Bill Henderson. You know, I just went to
a screening of a forgotten nineteen eighty nine film called
How I Got Into College, directed by Savage Steve Holland
who did Better Off Dead and One Crazy Summer.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
This was like the third one of that kind of trilogy.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Bill Henderson popped up and that as a.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Coach of a high school football player.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Okay, look at him right before City Slickers.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Right before, right before. Well, Ben, we appreciate you for
joining us. If people do want to nerd out with
you and talk clue, how can they get in touch
with you?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, yeah, I am on Instagram. I'm just I think,
just can't remember what my hand was. It's Hitchwood. It
is Hitchwood. H I t hwad. I used to be
on Twitter x, but I came off that platform when
it just was awful.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Well, that means you were rarely on it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Okay, hitch Wood, that's where you can find Then I'm
putting it in my little Google machine right here. Well,
you know what, we appreciate you for joining us, Ben,
and I thank you also because I know this. I
know there's been several times Jeff Ben has been listening
to this show and gone, yeah, these two guys are idiots, right,
(27:28):
I know it.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I know it's had.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I usually lets me know.
Speaker 11 (27:33):
He lets me know because Ben I've been usually on
Monday or Tuesday, depending on the timezone, we'll be on
like right that day with comments.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And I think of Ben very often when I'm about
to say something, and I think.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I will, I will. I walked to work my Tuesday morning.
It's my rituals. So for me, it's a Tuesday Cluesday,
and I think things. Sometimes I actually get my phone
out and start typing. Well, I'm actually listening to it,
but then you know, almost walking.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I believe that. And the times we have been late
betters let me know. By the way, He's like, where
is it?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Can I ask you guys a favor? This is terrible,
but I can't get a Cluvian keyring. Can I get
you guys to get me?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
They won't shipped to Australia, so we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is there any chance you can get one?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Point Michael of Black EIGHTE Studios. We will try to
figure out. Yeah, I can probably.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I've got no I will do it, you know, since
I got to I believe one.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I have one seven year address. I will send it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Thank you so much, I'll flick you deserve it.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
You've been good to me, you've been good to us,
and we appreciate you join us. Mister Ben Ripley. Out
of the clause, we appreciate you for joining us. A
minute ninety two of Club podcast. We'll be back next
week with minute ninety three and talk to our guys, Zach.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
That's called the teas, but another Ben.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Thank you so much, man, Thank you guys very much.
Love that man.
Oh, have done.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
But it was dead.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
But why none of you even met him till tonight?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You're mister Phi. Wait a minute, so who like you?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
My butler?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Oh shucks, he was expendable, like all of you. I'm
grateful to you all for disposing of my network of
spies and informers. Saved me a lot of trouble. Now
there's no evidence against me.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
This all has nothing to do with my disappearing nuclear
physicist husband or Colonel Mustard's work with the new top
secret fusion bomb.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No communism is just a red herring.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But the police will be here any minute. You'll never
get away with.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This, any of you. Why should the police come? Nobody
is called?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
You mean, oh my god, of course, So.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Why shouldn't we get away with it. We'll stack the
bodies in the cellar, lock it, leave quietly, one at
a time, and forget that any of this ever happened,
and you'll just.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You'll just go on blackmailing us all.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to Clute Movie Podcast, where we
break down the nineteen eighty five col Class movie Clube
one minute at a time.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I did that a little staicado and in rhythm.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
That was my name is the boat Brad Gilmore, joined
as always by the million dollar podcaster Jeff Smith and.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh if only that were TIERO, Well it should be
a few dollars.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
And we're joined this week by a man who his
actual first appearance in minute ninety one of podcast, and
he decided to stick around for an entire.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Week, Jeff to join us.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I know, as we say our final few episodes of
Cludeing the Movie Podcast, he is Ben Ripley, Ben, how's
it going my way?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's good? And another book and wearing exactly the same clothes,
which is really it's very strange that.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Well you've been sitting in that a little corner that
we put you in for a week.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You must be starving.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
The thing, Ben, We're going to get into a lot
about Ben. This is really what this episode is called
all about Ben. But before we get all about Ben,
I want to know because people can't see it, So
for the benefit of those who can, which is me,
it's can we see what do we got going on
in the background here?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
We got a lot of clues.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, yeah, I did do a little bit of a
display because I'm a massive nerd, so I've got all
my I've got one. This isn't even all of it.
This is some of my cludo, the clue reference things.
I've even't got a candlesticks who.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I've heard of that I am?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I am, And it's.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Not a podcast. He's in the documentary, right.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I did point out to Jeff at the time when
this first came out that I love how the fact
on this on the sleeve are only five bullets.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I like that. I have no idea if that was
I would love to think that it was, but maybe
it was the one.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is still in the gun you So that's right?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah, one plus I get it, two plus.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Plus plus two plus one plus one plus two plus one.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Even if you're well, there's one pless one, not one
plus one plus two pless one.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Shut up?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So Ben, Ben, You're welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
We're excited to have you for those of you who
are for people listening who might not have seen who
did a documentary. First of all, shame on you and
are unfamiliar with you. What is your clue origin story?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, so this was back I can't remember how old
I was. It would have been early teens and it
was on the channel BBC two in the UK one
week night, I think it was a Wednesday for Memory Wednesday.
It and my brother and I just sat down to watch.
I was always a huge and still i'm a massive
board game fan anyway, so I went, oh, my god,
(04:07):
I've not heard of this movie until I saw it
in the in the listings and we sat down and
watched it and rolled about laughing an awful lot, and
it was so influential to me. I started doing well.
I was already making films with my friend William. I
don't know if William's listening to this as well. He
(04:30):
and I used to make films together, basically spoof of
seventies stuff, you know, those kind of I can't report
you call them the Children's Film Foundation kind of films
where just you know, kids having adventures and everything, and
we did we did a few of those. And so
watching Clue made me write one called The Butler Didn't
(04:53):
Do It, in which I was a butler and a
bunch of people came to a house and lots of
people got murdered. And it had terrible jokes, I mean
absolutely terrible. One of the worst jokes. Actually, I don't
know is it one of the worst. I've got so
many bad ones. One was where the butler I say
to one of the one of the guests, said would
(05:13):
you care for a cup of tea? And she says, no,
thank you. I don't think I could handle the responsibilities.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
It's not a good joke like that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But then I also did I started doing you know
when people have hobbies when they're young. They could be
playing football, they could be stamp collecting. I don't know
what other people were doing. I was organizing murder parties.
And I did so many, usually two or three a year,
and it was orchestrating it, it was finding a place
(05:44):
to host them, giving people characters. It was such a
lot of work. It wasn't one of those where you
around the table opening envelopes fun but I preferred ones
where people ran about the house and basically I played
ones with most of the time.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Well, first of all, I want to say this, and
this is going to be very deflating for you and
the listeners. I've never been to a murder party, and
I've always wanted to do one. So if I find
myself in your neck of the woods, I would hope
that you would organize one in my honor, just kidding.
And secondly, okay, so y'all are obsessed at a young
age with these this story and these kind of movies,
(06:21):
and it's carried on until So when did though Clue
become the rewatched one?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Because we all have the movies that we like growing up,
but then at one point it's like, no, this is
my like for me, it's back to the future, and
then Clue is also in there as well. When did
it like kind of solidify itself in your.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was so quick. It was so quick because I
wanted it, because I taped it off the TV as well,
and I had to show everybody. So I had friends
over and we would watch it and watch it and
watch it. I even went to The Great Trouble. This
is so sad. We had two VCRs and I would
(07:00):
connect them up and I taped what from it. It
probably legal, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Sure, but I thin the Statute's pride past.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, hopefully, but I would tape it and re edit it.
So I had on three different cassettes, one with ending one,
one went end into with ending three so that I
could shuffle them up and put them in and not
know which ending I was going to get.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
That sounds so, Jeff, tell me your Ripley origin story.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
I put a call out to people on the socials
that just said this was years ago. It was even
years before the documentary was finished, and it just had
the idea we'll put together I get the very end.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Some just testimonials from Clue fans.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
And because I started to as I was making the documentary,
it first started out being just about the making of
the movie Clue, and then I started meeting people like
Ben who you know, really cared about the movie.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
As well, and that's why who's done the Clue documentary.
Half the first half is about making Clue. The second
half shifts to the fans. And Ben was one of
the submissions. And Ben's video.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
Was hard because you know, everybody gets like a few
seconds here there, and his the whole story basically that
I believe was part of it as well, talking about
recording it off of the BBC.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And then when he just.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Kind of goes into uh, I've seen it a thousand
times that actually recited it before we went on. He
talks about how when he's a film as a as
a film buff, which I am id quote his whole
line right now.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You know, when you edit your own movie, you watch
it over and over again.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
People expect your favorite film to be Sins the King
or Cossa Blanca, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
His clue was also the trailer. I believe that Barry
Line is in.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
The Who trailers, so he made the trailer as well,
and he shows in the documentary part of his collection
as well, which is definitely I've noticed, even if that's
not everything has grown since a few years ago that
that been did it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But yeah, yeah, Ben was one of the first.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Testimonials that that came in and definitely was definitely one
of my favorites.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
Definitely, as I say three times to really show that
I mean it.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
So you had the three cassette tapes bin it had
the three different endings that you edited together, which is amazing.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Which one did you find yourself watching the most?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay? Well, yeah, that's that's the thing, because yeah, this
is tough, because let's let's.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
What's your.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
My least favorite ending?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's usually is.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
The real ending. I mean you know that everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's your least favorite.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, I love them all, but you've got to pick one,
and it is that one purely because of the Missus
White thing, the fact that she done it, and as
I messaged.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You the other day about this, because you've.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Mentioned in episode in minute ninety that's upstairs then suddenly
downstairs again. So he must have used the same magic
portal that she used to get from the master bedroom
to the billiard room. So that has always.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's set up. That's a portal. Yeah, was able to
do it? Yeah, Yeah, I think well, I.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Think he must have got something from the from the
from his dealings with the Clanet Transylvanian from Rocky Horror.
Let's let's say that.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, Tim Curry is is Cannon.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
He also works at a hotel in New York and
has to deal with that little Brady kid.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And he likes to rip off the arms of those
Brady kids when he's.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Brains exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Am I misremembering?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Or was Tim Curry in the McHale's Navy movie.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
They did it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In October, so he has been at a submarine.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Maybe I'm misremembering. Maybe he wasn't in McHale's Navy.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I don't think he's in Mchal's Navy, but he's in
The Hunter the movie was Kelsey Grammer.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Was Kelsey Grammar in Michal's Navy?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Or is that I think so? Or am I thinking
of I don't know, look.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
After yourselves, y'all talk amongst yourself.
Speaker 12 (11:23):
I did not see the McHale's Navy movie, and I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Don't put that out of the list for the next podcast.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, the only reason I've seen the McHale's Navy movie
was because this is I'm gonna now, I'm gonna sound
like a nerve bin. So you guess what I'm gonna
take it away from you is because it's directed by
a guy named Brian Spicer. And Brian Spicer also directed
the nineteen ninety five classic film The Mighty morphin Power
Rangers movie, which I was a big fanly so, by
(11:52):
the way, and I don't know if he ever did
another movie after this. Tom Arnold played Tom Maroold McHale. Man,
there's Tim Curry is major Vladikoff?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, what's the submarine movie with Kelsey Grammar? Then?
Because he was in a submarine movie too, I think
it's down periscope. It is.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think it is. I'm pretty sure I can see
him on the front cover.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So yeah, yeah, so in white. So Tim Curry did
two submarine movies.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
He did to KALs Navy and the I think the sequel,
The Hunt for October.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I think they're the same universal together. Listen, they got
Sean Connery to come back.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Listen to this cast real quick.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I'm sorry for the Arnold Deborah, Deborah Messing, ok, French Stewart,
Tommy David Allen, Tim Curry and Ernest Borgan.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Wow, how how nineties is this? What year?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
This is ninety seven?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, it's pretty nineties that cast. Yeah, screams. I mean
Tom marld By himself is archive the nineties.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Right right?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
So anyway back to Clue, Back to Clue. So the
endings for it?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, okay, So my favorite is actually the Miss Scarlet
ending just because I don't know, it just works. It
works for me completely, and Leslie and Warren just is fantastic.
I loved I loved the episode where you had her
on interviewing her because I was just such a gorgeous episode.
(13:30):
So yeah, that's my favorite. But I really do have
a soft spot for the Missus Peacock ending, mainly because
I love Missus Peacock. I think Aileen Brennan's performance is
just stunning, and the fact that she does, as you
mentioned previously, the way she kind of just changes and
becomes kind of evil for that last moment, the way
(13:51):
she changes her voice, and I don't know, she's just
glorious to watch. And she's got one of my favorite
lines in the entire movie, not in that ending, but
I've quoted it so many times in my life. You know, well,
someone's going to break the ice, and it might as
well be me. I mean, he's doing being a hostess.
It's parked my husband's work. And it's always difficult in
a group of your friends, me to get the first
(14:11):
first time to get acquainted. So I'm perfectly prepared start
the boiling. And they have absolutely no idea what we're
doing here, what I'm doing, Hey, what the space is back?
But I'm determined to enjoy myself and I'm very intrigued
to know mind the supers delicious, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Come on, man, can I get a great Scott?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Great Scot.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
That's the great Scott moment of the Week's great Scott.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I love her wow and it does. Her ending also
has the brilliant. Uh, mister Green, is that will be a.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's true?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I love those two endings.
Speaker 11 (14:45):
Morning.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
First of all, I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
My favorite line delivery in your quote you just gave
from miss Peacock where she's where they're at the dining table,
is where she like kind of goes up on the
determined her voice kind of I'm determined to enjoy.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I love that, man, it's so good. She is really good.
But you know what, I feel like Peacock doesn't get
a lot of love.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And I will say that I feel this too, and
it's so unfair.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
It is unfair because she is the most in the pocket,
I think with every line delivery when you think about
obviously water Worth and everything is great, but she is
so in the pocket, never misses in her moment you're
gonna say something.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I was so you know how previously you've talked about
how Missus White reacts to everything, and you know, if
you try and watch the movie just watching her reactions,
do it with missus Peacock as well. Because there's a
brilliant moment where they're in the study and they everything's
explained as Professor Plump and she's nodding her head like
that and then it's still there or killed him, and
(15:53):
then she starts doing that. It's brilliant. I'm sorry, I
realized on a podcast and I'm shaking my head, but
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yes, now she doesn't agreement, and she goes, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Now for I'm going to ask this to the two
of you for this minute, specifically minute ninety two. Few
things are revealed, but the biggest is that Wadsworth was
mister body.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
All along right break my health.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
It is a heartbreaking moment, but as far as reveals go,
it is makes you go what and then though you go, wait,
how is that possible? Right, you started to try to
put it together. Why why are you mister?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Then? Why did the movie happen? If it's him? Why
did he play with all of us for an hour
and a half? Right?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
In't that kind of the conclusion.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Walked in the door?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I just think I think in this version, he's just unhinged.
And I think I've mentioned in a lot of posts
before that I think if this ending is true, then
you know, why is his butler going along with a plan?
And I just think he just told him it's a
murder party and just go along with it and didn't
(17:08):
realize he was actually going to get killed.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
So yeah, it does, which would explain why he pretends
to be dead too exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You know, He's like, oh, I I was supposed to
be shot, so i'll they hear and then if it
doesn't happen, I can get up, you know, And then
all of a sudden he's surprised by actually getting killed
for reals.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It made me so sad. I remember about thirteen years
old because we we fell in love with him so quickly.
We just heat it loves once worth. So it's heartbreaking
when you go, oh no, you're evil.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
He's taking care of us through the movie. He's helping us. Yeah, wow,
nothing makes sense that he's talkingself fast. It must be true.
I believe every word he says and he lies.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What is that?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
What is the term for that in a story? It's
something narrator the.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Uh oh, the utter liable narrator, liable.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Narrator, yeah, unreliable yeah yeah yeah, unreliable narrator.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Or in stage fright o spoilers.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So okay, now yeah, flashback fly.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So I'm a big Hitchcock fan as well, massive hits.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
So walk me through this then, is when you were
watching the film, did you try to do what I
think we all did is really try to put it
all together prior to the ending and go okay, this
is what I'm observing.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, okay, yeah. So did you ever find did you
like we did?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes? I think so. I mean, we're going back many
many years, aren't we?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I I love who done it? Anyway. I'm a big
Oak Christie fan and I always try to figure out
who done it? And with this I I was noticing
when people weren't there. So in the billiard room, when
you don't see Missus Peacock, it's like, where the hell
is she? I was piecing things together at that point.
(19:05):
I remember being shocked when it was announced the Evett
was part of it all that. I remember that blowing
my mind a little bit. But when because it was
on TV and they had all three ending, so I
remember when it said, but how about this? I thought, Oh,
we're going to go through each of the six characters,
all having their own time to do it. I honestly
(19:28):
thought that was going to happen, even though I could
see on the clock that you know, we didn't have
time to fit them all in, But I honestly thought
that was going to happen.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's It's kind of one of the things
that I love about, you know, the movie when I
was watching it for the you know, before we did
it this way, But when we did it this way,
it actually made me love this movie on a different
level than I did before, because I'm I really am
looking at it through a different prism. Okay, here's my
(19:56):
final question for you before we get you out of here, Ben,
and then Jeff, if you ever the thing to add
to the conversation, feel.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Free mister Green. Is this the real mister Green? Or
is this an impastor?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, okay, so I've already had a bit of a
rant about this to Jet not rant, but but no,
there's a sequence when we first see the old missionary guy,
what do you call him.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
The elderly evangelist.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's right when he comes to the door and you're
focusing on Missus Peacock because she's at the she's in
the forefront. You actually see mister Green step back a
little bit and he looks a little bit uncomfortable, and
it's almost as if he's just saying, you know, leave it,
I'm all over this. You can see him in his
FBI persona at that point, I'm convinced.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So yes, I do believe that mister Green isn't the
real mister Green.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
This is my been My favorite part of this show
is coming up with the fact that mister Green and
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I know, Jeff and I didn't come up with that.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Obviously, He's probably been talking about a million times, but
this is the first time I'm wrapping my mind around, Oh,
mister Green isn't mister Green.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
And I think even if it's not scripted for him
to be that way, I'm convinced that that's at least
how Michael McKean is playing it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think he decided even if it's not, he probably
what chance he went to Josh.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Lena said, so, I'm I'm just the eye guy all
the time, and Jonalyn probably.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Sure, why not? I won't remember, I will remember and
you know twenty years so do whatever you want.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Do whatever you who's going to see this movie nobody.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Right, especially who's gonna take it apart.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm not going to ask me to rank rank the
characters because I.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, no, let's get that out not so fast. What
is your ranking here?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
So last week, Lena, to remind everyone, Lina ranked from
least favorite to favorite, cop last Cook, the Motorist, Professor Plumb,
Missus Peacock way down.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I have a feeling Ben's is gonna be different.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Uh you Vet, mister Green, Colonel Mustard, this is white,
mister Body at number three, uh, Missus Scarlett, and then
what's worth at the top.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Insanity some of those, But go ahead.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm definitely going to put most of the victims down
at the bottom, purely because of their their lack of
air time as it were. So I think it's only
it seems only fair to put missus ho the cook
at the bottom because we'll see us oh so briefly.
But I do love the fact she's got a chocolate
(22:53):
cheesecake on the side and said that's good. I think
then we i'd have to put them. No, I put
mister Boddy at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I think he deserved Oh god, that's awful thing to say,
but he deserves the bullet, but so have him. Then
I'd have the motorist. I think Bill Henderson is fantastic
as the cop so he's a little bit higher. Then,
oh this is this is why you might lynch me.
I'm going to put Professor Plumb next, mainly because yeah,
(23:33):
he doesn't get as many funny gags as far as
I'm said. And it's weird because this littill shock you.
When I first watched it, I didn't recognize him straight
away because obviously knew his brown.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
He took me about.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's Judge Doom.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You know, yeah, that is because I think he looks
in clue. He looks normal actually anything, he's always Taxi
back to.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
The Future star Trek three.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Adams fairly, he never looks like a person.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
So yeah, when he's looking like it's like he's just
walked in off the street and didn't have his hair dud,
then yeah, we.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Don't know everyone's while his voice was give him away,
but he doesn't even have.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Like that big you know, Oh you have you have okay,
give it to me again, you have cooked so far?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay cook? Yeah, motorists cop Plumb. Then we're not going
to put the evangelist in here, are we. It's no
point because at the very bottom. Yeah, so then ivett
I love Colleen camp I think her performance is amazing
and she can she can wrestle next to Professor Plum
because we're in track twenty nine together. So yeah, we get.
(24:51):
Then we come to the next six. Okay, this is
going to be really difficult. I'm going to put mister
Green next. Then oh golly, then missus White I love
Meddling Khan, then Miss Scarlett. Then the we're top three.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think, yeah, yeah, colonel Colonel.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Mustard next, I think I was so heartbroken when he died.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
We need body.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Peacock is next, Okay, bodies at the bottom, yeah bottom, Yeah,
so the top three, number three is Mustard, Number two
is Peacock. Number one is what's with?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
So Wad's worth two for two in his his number.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
One rank deserved deservedly.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So oh man, that's tough though, But no love for body.
See that's that's a big difference between the two of you.
She had Peacock way down, you have Peacock second, she
had body way up and you have them all the
way at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I will say Lina is right. He did have amazing shoes.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
So kudos to Michael Kaplan, coster designer. He goes to
the top of the crew and a little bit of
love for Bill Henderson. You know, I just went to
a screening of a forgotten nineteen eighty nine film called
How I Got Into College, directed by Savage Steve Holland
who did Better Off Dead and One Crazy Summer.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
This was like the third one of that kind of trilogy.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Bill Henderson popped up and that as a.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Coach of a high school football player.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Okay, look at him right before City Slickers.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Right before, right before. Well, Ben, we appreciate you for
joining us. If people do want to nerd out with
you and talk clue, how can they get in touch
with you?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, yeah, I am on Instagram. I'm just I think,
just can't remember what my hand was. It's Hitchwood. It
is Hitchwood. H I t hwad. I used to be
on Twitter x, but I came off that platform when
it just was awful.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Well, that means you were rarely on it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Okay, hitch Wood, that's where you can find Then I'm
putting it in my little Google machine right here. Well,
you know what, we appreciate you for joining us, Ben,
and I thank you also because I know this. I
know there's been several times Jeff Ben has been listening
to this show and gone, yeah, these two guys are idiots, right,
(27:28):
I know it.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I know it's had.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I usually lets me know.
Speaker 11 (27:33):
He lets me know because Ben I've been usually on
Monday or Tuesday, depending on the timezone, we'll be on
like right that day with comments.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And I think of Ben very often when I'm about
to say something, and I think.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I will, I will. I walked to work my Tuesday morning.
It's my rituals. So for me, it's a Tuesday Cluesday,
and I think things. Sometimes I actually get my phone
out and start typing. Well, I'm actually listening to it,
but then you know, almost walking.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I believe that. And the times we have been late
betters let me know. By the way, He's like, where
is it?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Can I ask you guys a favor? This is terrible,
but I can't get a Cluvian keyring. Can I get
you guys to get me?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
They won't shipped to Australia, so we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is there any chance you can get one?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Point Michael of Black EIGHTE Studios. We will try to
figure out. Yeah, I can probably.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I've got no I will do it, you know, since
I got to I believe one.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I have one seven year address. I will send it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Thank you so much, I'll flick you deserve it.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
You've been good to me, you've been good to us,
and we appreciate you join us. Mister Ben Ripley. Out
of the clause, we appreciate you for joining us. A
minute ninety two of Club podcast. We'll be back next
week with minute ninety three and talk to our guys, Zach.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
That's called the teas, but another Ben.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Thank you so much, man, Thank you guys very much.
Love that man.
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