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Hello everybody, and welcome the Clue Louie Podcast, where we
break down the nineteen eighty five cult classic movie Clue
one minute at a time. My name is the Boat
Brad Gilmour. I am joined by Jeff Smith and Jeffrey.
This is not the penultimate episode. It's the episode before
the penultimate episode, which I don't know what the term
for that is, but it's almost to the end.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I've never even heard a penopleton, What is that?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Penultimate? The penultimate? You never heard penultimate?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Like pre ultimate?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, it's like like in music, the note before the
last note of a song is the penultimate note.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Use a song as an example.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, so uh okay, we think of the Raiders theme
that last right there before the do before the last.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
The first the doub before the dot, but not the
last one in the whole like dinner.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That's the no no.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They called the note before the last note the penultimate note. Okay, So,
like I always say, the episode before the last episode
is the penultimate episode.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
This is the pre pull, This is.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The pre no predultimate, this is the yeah, the pre nultimate. Yes.
So anyway, there you go. Jeff, you learned something new
today the penultimate I did?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We can we can wrap it up. That was the
Clue Movie podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Everybody, well you've heard, Yeah, you heard another episode of Shake,
Rattle and rolless with a little bit of commentary by
Jeff and I while the credits were playing, Jeff, few
things up top, let's just address them up top. Look,
this is minute ninety five. We have minute ninety six,
and then minute ninety seven really is even a full minute,
it's like a minute forty It's like forty seconds, you know,
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or fifty seconds somewhere around there.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The silent paramount logo at the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
End, right, So it's going to be incredible now for
the audience. I think we just discussed this right before
we went live, and I feel like we should stay
true to it, and I think if I say it
on air, I have to make it happen. And that
is this That the finale, minute ninety seven of Clue
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the Movie podcast we will be doing live on the Monday,
October seventh of twenty twenty four in the afternoon, the
early afternoon, around five pm Eastern four pm Central, which
is two pm Pacific. Yes, and then there's a there's
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a mountain time in there somewhere that I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, And for Ben in Australia, figure it out, buddy,
I don't know how to do that one. For you,
it might be like in the middle of the night.
So yeah, we're gonna Now what platform are we putting
this on?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's a great question. This will be on all of
my social media live, including the YouTube, and we'll add
in your social media's okay, and we'll be streaming to
the socials.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Get on the socials, everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, But so Facebook x formerly known as Twitter, as
everyone annoyingly refers to it on any kind of news platform.
And the YouTube's the youtubes, so it be brag Gilmour's
YouTube and then one of Jeff's Jeff, What's YouTube? Will
you put this on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It will be on the YouTube channel which is called
it Looks So Fake.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Looks So Fake. We're gonna get all this added and
you can stream it all simultaneously. And what we're gonna do,
We're gonna encourage you to tune into that so you
can rock with us live. Any final thoughts on Clue,
any fun thoughts on Clue the Movie podcast that you
want to put out there, that will be your last
time to do it. And also if you have ever
pondered leaving us a review sending us an email, so
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sliding in our DMS that Monday the seventh with the
last time we will read any of this on Clue
the Movie Podcast, and so we encourage you to do
it then and there. What we're going to do on
this these two episodes, Jeff, is something that I've actually
really really always wanted to do. There's a podcast called
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The Rewatchables. It is hosted by Bill Simmons, who's with
the Ringer formally of ESPN, a pop culture commentator I
guess you would call him, and they do this podcast
where they watch a movie similar to what we do,
not a minute at a time, but they watch a
movie and then they go through certain categories as they
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watch it and they break it down and say, Okay,
who won the movie? What is was this such and
such apex mountain or things of this nature. So I'm
I found all the categories, and these last two episodes
were gonna split between the original rewatchable categories and the
new ones, and we'll see what we get out of it.
For clue, because this is really now that we're going
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through the credits. We've seen the movie. You know, we've
seen the movie. Y'all have listened. Y'all have listened to
us see the movie, and so it's time to get
into some like kind of awards.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
One of the things we did throughout the entirety of
this series is we try to figure out who the
most guilty was. But this is kind of different, you know,
this is a different thing. So we're gonna go through
these categories. Now. First off, jeff any, I know you've
perused the categories. How are you feeling about this.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm very excited to get to things like the Joey
Pants that guy award.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Ah yes, I think.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's excellence and what's aged the best and what's age
the worst is gonna be interesting. I think it's some
of these things, not Joey Pants, although we should talk
about Joey pan everybody knows Joey Pants, right, Yes, Joey Pana.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Is that the thing is Pantaluna?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah? Uh, you probably if you're a fan of Clue,
you probably know him best from Goonies.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, yes, is one of the heavies. Yeah. But also
we were just talking about bad boys right before we rolled,
and you know, he's the police chief and bad boys.
So we're gonna get to this. We're gonna break down Clue.
These are the rewatchable categories, now, Jeff, it's hard to
It's hard to really say for this one, but I
feel like the first category is the most rewatchable scene
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of the movie. I feel like there are several contenders
for this. I'm gonna throw in a nomination. First off,
my nominee for most rewatchable scene is actually when they're
in the dining room slurping the soup and having that
initial convert station with each other. That's my most rewatchable
scene because you had the great dialogue from Peacock, you
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had the awkward moments going in there, you have them
trying to figure things out, and I felt like as
an audience member, this is where I had a lot
of fun learning about the characters for the first time.
But look, I know there are probably way more rewatchable scenes,
but this is the one that I throw out there.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'd hate to start by agreeing with you right off
the back, because obviously we have not discussed this beforehand.
But when I was thinking about rewatchable scenes, that scene
in particular popped in my mind because that was the
scene during this podcast that us rewatching. It made us
discover something pretty major that we didn't even realize was
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a thing, and that was Wadsworth purposefully blocking Missus Peacock's
view of the kitchen so she could not see that
her cook was the cook in the kitchen. And I
think that only become that only happens during a very
rewatchable scene, and then just any scene where Madeline Cohn
is doing something weird in the background. When you watch
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these movies again and you get the focus on just
one character at a time, that's when you really start
to see that these actors were all doing something, whether
it's Martin Mulla's kurdmuster counting to himself during one post
dupless dupless one, or Michael mckinna coming out of the
bathroom when it's revealed that it's Missus Peacock is a
killer and he missed it and he looks like in shock.
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But I think the one that for at least for
us that we talked about it for weeks and weeks
and weeks and weeks and now even close to the finale,
is that dining room scene, for sure, and it has
Missus Peacock's I think, I mean, Brendan has a lot
of fine moments, but her introduction speech is my favorite
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Peacock moment of the entire movie.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Is undetermined to enjoy myself. Yes, yes, I think there's
most watchable scene. Now, obviously there's a few other ones.
I think that rewatchable scene really you have to say,
Wad's worth anything at the end in any ending, but really,
actually his the scene that's the penultimate scene to finally
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getting into each ending, I think you have to consider
that one for most rewatchable. His recapping of murders.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
He we are literally rewatching in the movie as we
watch it, and a lot and with the three endings,
we are also at times rewatching the same line of
dialogue communism as a red airing. There's one thing I
don't understand. One we get some repeaters. So this movie
like forces us to have rewatchable scenes in the same
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sit in.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But yeah, I think I'm gonna go dinner scene most
rewatchable scene for the movie. Okay, this is a fun one.
The Neil McCauley A Book about Medals award for best
line in the movie. And now if you don't know that,
have you? You've seen Heat? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yes, a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So there's a scene in Heat where Robert de Niro's
character is meeting the woman for the first time and
they're in the restaurant and Robert DeNiro's character, Neil McCauley,
is reading a book and her first line to hear
him is, uh, what are you reading? And his response
was A book about metals? What a line? A book
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about metals? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So what remember?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Do they refer back to that book ever? Or that's
just it?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think that's it. I think that's it. It's just
a book about metals. It stands alone, stands alone. So
in your opinion, the best line from the movie is what.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, this is going to be very cliche because it's
a lot of people's favorite but I'm going to have
to go flames on the side of my face. But
also in keeping with the it's a book about metals idea,
flames on the side of my face. Up the movie
and it goes nowhere. Really it's this is what this
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is the finalite that you we were just talking about,
where Tim Curry is going one thousand miles per hour.
He is going what's description of the script, I forget
faster than the speed of light or something like that. Yeah,
like it's it's gonna feel like we've undercranked it and
we haven't. So the movie is just going no stop,
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but it stops dead in its tracks to give Madeline
Cohn as Missus White a moment to explain in detail
her hatred for Vet, and she never quite finishes her thought.
They give her a chance, they all stop and look,
but no, and it's never referred to again. And it's
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just a very weird moment that a lot of people enjoy,
and it's in a movie with so many repeatable lines.
I still think that one is the one. I think
of number one.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Look that one has to win, just because of the
iconography of what that meant? Right, but my favorite one,
and I want to make sure I get it uh right.
It's kind of it's a little cheating because it's not
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a singular line, but I love the sequence of he
threatened to kill me in public? Why do he threaten
to kill you in public? No, I think he threatened
in public to kill her.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
To me, I love that great line and then a
wonderful eye roll by Tim Curry when it's all done,
just to be the final but thing. I like the line,
but to me, it's the I think he threatened in
public to kill her, and then the ill I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I love that only because like I love when you
can what's his name? Norman Donald used to be really
great at making the setup to the punchline the same
phrase as the punchline itself. Sometimes he would just changed
his inflection or mix the word around, and it was
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the same thing he had just said as the setup
was then the punchline, which is kind of a brilli
if you could figure that out as a comic, like,
it's a brilliant thing to do. And I feel like
those kind of things in this like he threatened to
kill me in public? Why would he threaten to kill
you in public? I think he threatened in public to
kill her. It's the same line three times in a row,
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but done with different inflections. And maybe you'd switch a
word for Wadsworth.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yea, the order switches a little bit. Threatened in public
to kill her? The threat was in public, folks.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Not the kill him. He didn't threaten to kill her
in public. Why would he kill you in public?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Why would want to kill you in public?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
That's extreme.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And then as as the child that I am, I
also enjoy Do you know where the ladies room is? Or?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wait, what is it?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah? Is there a ladies' room in the hallway? We
met them? No?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I just need a powder my nose?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Good.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
She never gets to do go on, man, that's a
great one. So I do think Flames on the side
of my face wins this one. But that's my runner up.
So what age the best? Jeff?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What has aged the best?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
The funny thing? I think that's hard because I think
the whole movie as a whole still plays very strong.
I've had the opportunity to see it in theaters with
people that I've never seen it before, and because it's
so fast paced, because it works on so many different levels,
there's something that people grab onto every time and it
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plays and even just recently, I was telling you before
we started, I went to go see The Clue again
at the Alamo Drafthouse in Boston. And I've seen Clue
many times on the big screen, So once it starts,
it's more of a I enjoined how the audiences react,
right or anything like that, and I thought, you know,
ten minutes and I'm like, yeah, maybe I'll go because
but then it was actually the dining room scene that
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kept me in my seating a little bit longer, like wait,
I need to watch this, and then I need to
watch this. So I think as a whole, it just
it's smart and it doesn't feel like it was made
in nineteen eighty five. It's kind of timeless in that way.
So I think that kind of stuff is aged. It's
just the whole movie for the best. I just the
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they were smart and making it timeless.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I think that that's the only correct answer, is that
the movie age the best. It's because it wasn't successful
at the time and then became successful. Later on. I
think that that shows that the movie Age the best
because it found an audience when there wasn't one initially.
(16:54):
You know, you can all say the cast age the
best just from a they were all killers, and it's
still killer all these days later, all these years later,
all these decades later. Really we're in a different century.
So there's a lot of things that were really well
done about it. But yeah, the movie Age the best. Now,
when you come to the determination of what age the worst,
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let me throw this one out here for you, because
if I show this movie to my nephew, who just
turned fourteen, he will enjoy clue right, he will have
a great time with it. I think what he will
not pick up on, or even understand or have any
connection to is the subplot of the McCarthyism in communism.
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I think that in the eighties, communism was still a
topic of conversation. Cold War was still going strong. I
mean that's until ninety three is when it officially ends.
So I mean, this is the Reagan years, This is
before Bush of the First Bush, and it's still on
in the public consciousness. So even when Wadsworth has the
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socialist line, everyone reacts because that's how everyone would even
still react in a theater at maybe even the eighties
of like, oh man, a socialists. These people are nuts,
you know. And a fourteen year old to pick up
on the politics, and especially the politics from so far
removed from anything that he's aware of, I think that.
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I think that, yeah, I think that that kind of
age the worst. I'm not saying that it's a deal
break or anything, but to me that that subplot, it
doesn't it doesn't lend itself to aging well.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And I think now, I mean, if we're in the
middle of an election season right now, and the term
communism in telling somebody as a communist, has become so
common that it's really lost a lot of its meeting.
Now if somebody doesn't agree with you communists, you know,
it's not true, not true to pure communist them anymore.
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It's just it's just a phrase that you use when
you don't agree with somebody. So I think that is
different as well, and even socialism for that matter. I
think for me, what is aged the worst is just
there are some jokes that history has not been kind to,
Like I don't know if everybody knows what a hoover
vacuum is oh yeah that like at the end when
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he says, you know, is the FBI in the habit
of cleaning up? Why do you think it's enough for
something called uber because of the vacuum And it's like
one of the last jokes. I think if you don't
know who Jake or whover was going back to, I
guess there's a lot of it has to do with
Janker Hoover. He's on everybody else's line, why why shouldn't
be on mine. I think it was more since it
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was more recent history, people were more aware of Now
you'd have to really know your stuff. I think I
don't know. Maybe I'm not. I'm not giving a no.
I agree today they're credit no no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, don't give them any trust enough time around. Uh
it's a I love though, being around Like people who
are in their early twenties post not eleven kids, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'll say, if they are listening to this podcast, they're fantastic.
But if they're not, then.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
If anybody is listening to this podcast and you are
born after the tragic events of nine to eleven, like
I'm shocked, I am shocked.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, well, I look at going back to the it
Looks So Fake YouTube channel, which is mostly stuff I
put up with. Clue. You know, you can see your demographics.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Not a lot of under twenty.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
No, I've got a lot of males are a George
then my age yep, and a little bit older too,
but not cracking that Sidney Sweeney audience.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, yeah, obviously you don't offer the same thing Sidney
Sweeney does to a young audience.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I do not for.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
A variety of different reasons. Not that you're not good
to look at, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's for podcasting radio.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right. Here's the next one, the Dion Waiters Award
for Best heat Check Performance in a Movie. Deon Waiters,
of course, a basketball player known for just going crazy
at a moment's notice and having his heat check where
he's scoring a lot of points really really quickly. To me,
the heat check performance which is kind of to me
like a one off, like you're in for a little bit,
you show what you got and then we don't see
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you for a while, if ever. Again, so to me,
the best heat check of the movie is Leaving. Leaving
comes in, delivers some dialogue, memorable dinner scene, memorable entrance
has his final hear your gifts, and then we don't
see him again until re enactment later, but we don't
hear from him again. I think leaving mister body best
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heat check performance in the movie nice.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'll go with someone that's in the movie a lot.
But she has one for moments where she explodes and
then goes back into kind of a quiet, reserved mode,
and that is Aileen Brennon as missus Peacock. I think
of the seat, let him stay locked up for another
half hour. The police will be here by then, and
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there are two dead bodies in the study and they
have the sure And then the last noise she makes
is when well, look what happened to the cook? And
she's done, because then she can't even react to Professor Plumbs.
It's me, honey bunch, just she's out.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
She's out.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
She's used it all, she's used it all. So she
she jumped up, she expressed her frustrations and now she's
got a and she messed with her hat and almost
that feather also should get a lot of credit for surviving,
because it should be mangled by the time that move
was over.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, you know, Aileen Brennan heat checks are are pretty great.
So I'm I'm kind of leaning to you, but I
am going to stick to my guns.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
He makes his presence. I'll give him that. He does
come in. You wonder about him. He's a bad guy.
He doesn't belong and off he goes.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And off he goes, rides off into the sunset. The
next one, I think that we have to have to.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh singing telegram.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Oh man, that's.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
She's in for eight seconds. One of the funniest things
in the whole movie.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And one of the most memorable.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Singing Telegram Girl is the Deon Waiters Award.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, that's a great call because because look, she's so iconic.
Everyone knows that I am You're singing telegram bam. Oh phenomenal. Yeah.
Why weren't we think Why didn't we think of that before? Yeah,
that's absolutely I wonder.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
How many are listening to us ramble about leaving and
you dopes? Oh man, I hope not. I hope they
got there with us.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
All right, here we go Joey Pants. Joey Pants Award
for Best that Guy in a Movie. So this is
like when you're watching a movie and you go, oh, look,
it's that guy. You don't know his name, but you
know he's always in a movie. You always see him.
It's like, ah, that guy, And to me, this is
an obvious winner. We should probably have the same exact
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answer for this because the Joey Pants that Guy Award
and clue is Bill Henderson.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Oh, we do not have the same one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
What Bill Henderson is the guy when you go I
don't know your name, but I see you in City Slickers.
You're a pop up in all these random movies from
the eighties the early nineties. Bill Henderson is that guy,
Like I don't know who is that guy? I don't know,
but you're that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, you're right. I guess I'm taking the definition a
little bit differently because that guy is someone that people
knew very well but weren't expecting, especially at the end
of the movie. So I think the reaction was, oh,
my goodness, it's that guy Howard Hessman from WKRP in Cincinnati.
What is he doing here? As opposed to Oh, that's
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the guy, what's his name? So that's where I was
thinking for that guy. But it's more like.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That guy's here too, Okay, how strange.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But yes, Bill Henderson, what did I just see where
he popped up again? And I thought, no, I mean,
now we know him as our worst cop in the world,
Build a Cop. But he was just in Oh shoot, oh,
How I Got Into College? So the movie from the
director of Better Off, and he plays a high school
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basketball coach trying to get his star player from high
school into college and giving him, like, you know, kind
of like a Jerry maguire kind of deal. But he yeah,
he was in that. I'm like, oh, there he is.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Check out this run though. I just want to go
through from eighty five to ninety eight for Bill Henderson. Okay,
and this is just this isn't anything but film. Okay,
So let's start with You could really start it with
the Adventures of Buckerou Bond's Across the Eighth di Mensioned,
but no, you start with Clue then Fletch Murphy's Law,
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How I Got into College? No holds barred city slickers,
white men can't jump, White men can't jump. He's in
Maverick as the riverboat poker player.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yes, he is one of the tables.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
He's in Weird al Yankovics there's no going Home as
Blonde Lemony Yankovic. He is in Conspiracy Theory as a
hospital security and then he's in Lethal Weapon four as
an angry patient. Yes, he's that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
He played a security guard. Oh that poor place. Conspiracy theories,
conspiracy theories, that's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's Mel Gibson, Julia robbers for people. WO don't know?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, I remember? Is that nineties?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And then even even check this out. I think it
is Richard Donner. Let me look it up. Let's use
it is Donner. It is a Donner movie.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Maverick so so is and so yeah Maverick nol g.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Wait a minute. And then Lethal Weapon four was with
who that's a Richard Donner too? Oh we see a little.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Made a friend.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, somebody likes Mel and somebody likes Bill Henderson. That
guy's name was Dick Donner.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I guess so.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But look even think about this, Happy Days, Sanford and Sons,
good times, Jefferson's what's happening, Different Strokes, Incredible, Hulk, Benson,
Hill Street, Blues, mcgiver, in the Heat of the Night,
NYPD Blue, Mad about You, e R Seventh Heaven. That's
kind of kind of it of the ones I.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Know I will relent then, yeah for that kind of
that guy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Absolutely, Well, let's go to our next one, the Ruffalohannah
Rubinek Patridge over Acting Award. Do we give this one
to Colleen Camp Yeah, that's who.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I thought of too, for the accent alone, just for.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That, because I think everyone's kind of hamming it up.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It's just very extreme and uh, not necessarily accurate the
entire way, but fits with the character because she's not
really French.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
She's not really French, and I and and like.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Juliet's on the other people for not picking up, like
that's kind of funny. I don't know what it was
that distracted them. I don't know from the bad French accent.
Maybe in a kind of women.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's funny you say that because yeah, yeah, well obviously
she's the overactor of the movie because everybody's hamming it up.
Everybody's overacting. But again, that's the very theatrical, very theatrical,
very theatrical casting. What ifs. We've done this before over
who potentially could have been Wadsworth. We know Carrie Fisher
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was going to be Miss Scarlett. We know Leslie and
Warren was going to be missus White. So, I mean,
we've played this game before, so some of these categories
you've heard us do throughout the entirety of this podcast.
I think that was actually in the early days we
talked about all those half ass internet research. I think
that that's what you call this podcast. We can skip
that one.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You're hearing it right now, probably episode.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Probably unanswerable questions, Well, there's a few. I think the
most unanswerable question is where's the real myster Green?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah? And anything you ask director Jonathan Lynne.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And anything you asked I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I don't remember. Okay, a couple more sequel, prequel, limited
series or all black remake? What would be the best
one here? That these are the Simmons categories. Yeah, I
mean I'm leaning to all black cast.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I would love to know what the all black cast
of Clue was. That'd be great. Yeah, But for me,
I've always thought that a limited series slash prequel would
be very interesting where we get to know kind of
in a like the show Lost, which is not a
great show, but they you know, took time, a different
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episode was about a different character, and I thought that
would always be interesting if you had an episode this
is Colonel Muster's episode, it's Professor Plump's episode, and you
get to know them a little bit more outside of
the mansion, and then you know it ends with them
going to the house and we all know what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Then I like the kind of rogue one kind of way,
you know, sequel, little little hard. We pitched our sequels
and alternate scripts before, so you can go back and listen.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Mister Professor Plumb and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Missus white sweet lies and plump pies, Sweet white lies
and plump pies, white lies because.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's white white lives, Sweet white lies and Blumplies. Yes
they went to Newport Beach, I think yes, and live so.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
But here's the thing, you know, because we're almost finished
with this run of this show, we're going to have
a real quick before we finish all the categories for
this episode, We're gonna have a quick surprise guest here
from our own Juniper Sparks here. Jup, Juniper, Are you there?
Are you with us? Welcome to Clue Movie Podcast. See
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if she's here, I don't know. I just updated my h.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yes, I'm here and I'm ready to talk Clue. What
mystery are we unraveling today on the podcast?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Hey We're What we're going to talk about is we're
discussing doing a all black cast remake of Clue the movie?
Can you cast each of the characters as an African
American actor and or actress? See what?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Now?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This is hard? See what she comes up with?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That sounds like a fantastic idea?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Does it?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Here's a take on casting an all black remake of Clue?
What with a butler? Idris Elba. He's got the perfect
mix of charm, intensity, and humor to pull off the role.
Regina Hall, with her sharp wit and comedic timing, She'd
nailed the role of the flirtatious and mysterious Miss Scarlet
Siola Davis. She can play dignified and dramatic, but also
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bring a ton of depth to the characters over the
top paranoia. Sterling K. Brown. He can bring both the
authority and underlying cluelessness that the character needs. Donald Glover
a character a smooth and quirky take on the know
it all professor, but with a bit of his signature humor.
Octavia Spencer, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Connection failed, Oh here we go, here we go? There
she wrote it out, So you know what, Juniper, I'm
gonna read it so we know what is going on there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So Colonel Mustard earlier, I.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Think, well, we're gonna figure this out. So this is
Wadsworth as Idris Elba, Miss Scarlett, Regina Hall, Missus Peacock,
Viola Davis, Colonel Mustard, Sterling K. Brown, Professor Plumb, Donald Glover,
Missus White is Octavia Spencer, and mister Green is played
by Michael B. Jordan. But the big question is who
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would play Vett. That's the final question that we need
to know. But I like it, you know, because they did.
There was a a Keke Palmer to play Yvette. Okay,
it's a big cast cast, huge big names.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Do you remember they did a movie. It was a
there was a British version of it I believe called
Death at a Funeral. Yes, and then they did Chris
Chris Rock did a remake of it all black cast
much better, much better. So I don't know. Movies, you's
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hit or Miss.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
One of my favorite stand up comedians. But movies, it's
going back to leave the Weapon four.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
But honestly, I don't know if if I want a
sequel or prequel or an all black remake, or or
all other ethnic group remake of any kind limited series
would be my play.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah. Well, they just announced the potential director of the
new Clue, and it is a gentleman by the name.
Uh it's a mac Krigger. Yeah, Zach who is has
directed the film Barbarian, which is about a woman staying
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in an Airbnb discovers that the house she has rented is
not what it's seems.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
What's this guy's.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Name, Zach Kreiger c R E G G.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
E R Okay, continue.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yes, so I'm looking at his imp because I've not
seen Barbarian.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I will so Barbarian Companion. Oh that doesn't come out yet,
Miss March, Oh he did, Miss March. Hey, okay, I've
actually seen none of his movie, No, neither of Apparently
he's an actor too, and I've seen nothing that he's in.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So yeah, it looks like it sounds like Barbarian is
more of a straight kind of scary movie. So as
I kind of anticipate, it doesn't sound like they're gonna
go comedy with Clue this time, which I think is
probably best. I think it's gonna be a movie with
the same title. And the potentially the same characters. Who
knows there could be an Orchid appearance or any of
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the other names that I've popped up on the in
the game.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
This is like recent news. This is like the last
couple of days. Yeah, huh. I don't know how I
feel about that.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
The writer that they've got to write the script is
I'm going to my own instagram to see because I
posted this on Clue Documentary. Yeah, the instagram and uh
Shay Hatton Shay h A T. T. E. N who
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wrote John Wick three and four. He wrote Zack Snyder's
Rebel Moon movies and also Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well these are not comedies per se. They have comic
elements in it.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
They do have comic elements, uh genre Clue, yes, which
is fine.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean, I think that's probably a safer way to go.
I think you should. The only reason people don't want
another Clue movies if they're super fans of the one
we're talking about. Yeah, and I don't think you can
do this one again. And so it sounds like the
Ryan Reynolds version is now completely dead.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, well you know what, maybe it should be Let's
be honest with you now again going back to Real
Quick for the remake instead of Kekey Palmer for a vett.
Let me throw out a suggestion of Chloe Bailey And
if you don't know Chloe Bailey, you know, do yourself
favorite google great singer, great songwriter, gorgeous, like, oh my god, gorgeous.
And she's in Fight Night, which is a new show
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on Peacock with Kevin Hart and Sam Jackson, Taraji p Henson,
Terrence Howard. Yeah, very good. I really like it. I'm
a fan. I'm a fan of that show, and I'm
a fan of Club A big fan, big fan. Let
me go to our next one. This is a hard
one here, Jeff Apex Mountain. So this is who had
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their highest of heights with this movie? Did any one
person reach their apex? And when you go through it,
the only like it's not like, let's go through the cast,
is it Christopher Lloyd's apex? Obviously not right back to
the Future fame. It's pretty much his apex even know
Back in the Future came out earlier in the year,
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I think the whole trilogy, so I'd say his apex
is really in nineteen ninety is when it's peaked, because
even though he went and did Adams Family and did
a lot of movies after that, I don't think it
ever got higher than him as Doc Brown. Obviously Tim
Curry apex of Tim Curry, No.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Which is saying a lot, Yeah, because he is. This
is a tour de force, That's what was. But he
did Liny have wonderful things after this that we've quoted
many times with Home Alone too. Home Alone, Yeah, a
ton of stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So I think more of a launching pad than an apex.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah to an American. I think for a younger audience
like me, I didn't know who he was yet, and
I hadn't seen mel Brooks movies yet, so I didn't
know who Medel and Con was. But she certainly did
some great stuff after this as well. I think she
her apex it would be close to Melan Kan, but
I think for me it's Leslie and Wawren.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I think this is Leslie and Warren's Apex Mountain.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah. She's done stuff since then, but I don't think
anything where she got to shine. She did plenty of
stuff before Clue, which was dominated for supporting actress. Yeah,
for Victor Vittoria. And she did plenty of stuff before,
and she's done other things since since she was on
Desperate House when she was parts, and she was on
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include my podcast, who Done with Clue matter where she
shined there as well. But I think this is the
movie let her And it's amazing that she almost didn't
play Miss Carlotte. But I think this movie let her
shine in ways that I think a lot of people
they think of those saying Warren, this is the movie
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they think of, and with a lot of the other cast,
you'll think of other things as well as Club.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah. I think for me, the characters who are at
Apex Mountain, I do think Colleen Camp Apex. I think,
even though she had funny stuff that she did after this,
like Entourage and stuff, if you say Colleen Camp and
the people go, who what do you say? You go
they made from Clue and they're like, oh, yeah, of course, yeah, Okay,
So I think Colleen Camp Apex, not Michael McKeon, no,
(40:49):
no leaving. I think Colleen Camp and leaving Apex Mountain.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well. As far as acting, sure, yeah, because he still
does his music and stuff. I just don't think he's
in a lot. I thought he was, but never got
him for.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
The podcast we tried. So let's let's go with this.
Who won the movie? Tim Curry, Tim Curry, Tim Curry.
It's not even it's not even a thing.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Pick we won, we won the movie.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's the audience picking knits. I think that's what we
did this whole time. That's like looking for holes.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
That's called clue living podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's called clude movie podcast, recasting couch. So if we
were to recast, I think we've done this too, where
we've looked at who could play modern versions of stuff.
It's funny because in the The Rewatchables podcast it's always
they say, well, you can remake it with Sidney Sweeney,
which he's already come up several times. And if you
are recasting event for today, maybe Sidney Sweeney is who
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you go with. Okay, And our final one is is
this movie better with Danny Trejo, Steve Bushimi or Michael K. Williams.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Danny Treyo is mister Body.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I'm thinking Danny Treyo is mister body.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
M and then Steve ny M y no, no, no,
I'll keep it pure, but it would I can see
all of them they bring it make everything better. So
(42:30):
that's that's kind of a trick.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
There you go, man, Well, so I guess my answer
is yes. Those are our categories for part one of
our Rewatchables edition of Clue Movie Podcast. Minute ninety five.
We're gonna be back next week.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
What did you say? Did you think it's better with
Danny Trayo or no?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
No, no, no, okay, no, I'm leaving the cast as
it is, but I love Danny Trayo and everything he's in.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
But anyway, that's that's our first edition of this of
this awards ceremony for movie podcast. I want to remind
you October seventh, we will do a live Clue the
Movie Podcast scheduled for four pm Central, five pm Eastern,
two pm Pacific. If you're anywhere not in those time zones,
you gonna have to figure it out. But Jeff Smith,
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we're gonna be back next week. Minute ninety six, the
penultimate episode of Clue the Movie Podcast. And there's another
thing that I needed to get your your take on,
and we'll do that next week. Clue dot dot com
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next week, man,