On Her Majesy's Secret Service (1969) [Brad Pic] featuring George Lazenby

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, What can be done Now?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sex on Her Majesty's Secret Service, released in nineteen sixty nine,
is the sixth film in the James Bond series, based
on Ian Fleming's novel of the same name. It marks
George Lazenbee's only appearance with James Bond, following Sean Connery's
departure from the role. The film follows Bond as he
continues his pursuit of Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the elusive leader

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of Specter. Bond's investigation leads him to Switzerland, where Blofeld
is running a clinical research institute under the alias Count
de Bluchamp. Blofeld's true scheme is soon uncovered. He is
brainwashing a group of women to spread a biological weapon
capable of sterilizing entire populations. During the mission, Bon falls
in love with Tracy d Vincenzo, the independent and headstrong

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daughter of crime boss Mark Ang Draco. Unlike his previous
romantic entanglements, Bond forms a deep emotional connection with Tracy.
With the help of Draco, Bond infiltrates Blofeld's mountaintop hideout
P's Gloria, leading to an intention showdown. After a dramatic
battle and chase through the Swiss Alps, Bond foils Blowfeld's plan,

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but the villain escapes. The film ends on a rare
emotional note. In the Bond series, Bond marries Tracy, but
their happiness is short lived. In the final moments, Blofeld
and his accomplice Irma Bunt ambushed the couple and Tracy
is killed in a dry by shooting, leaving Bond devastated.
Unlike the action packed, gadget heavy approach of its predecessors,

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On Her Majesty's Secret Services known for its faithful adaptation
of Fleming novels, its emotional death, and some of the
most stunning action sequences of the series. Though initially met
with mixed reviews, the film of Sins Game critical appreciation
is now regarded as one of the finest entries in
the James Bond series. This is On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
If you can't beat them, join them. If you're scared
to fight it out, watch him and watch out. If
you think your girl's a good looker, take a good
look at this guy's dolls.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
My name's Bond.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
James Bond, The New Bond, The Different Double O seven
on Her Majesty's Secret Service. The new star the Different Bond.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
The name's laysonbe.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
George Laysonby and he's got it made. The Different Bond woman,
the name's Rake, Diana Rape. This one's got class and style.
Telly savalas dis Gabriel Pazzetti and Double O seven times

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more excitement. If you think you know your Bond.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Think again.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
This one's different.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Drop everything, try and make it marvelous. Is the password
for the Different Bond? As the man says, this never

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happened to the other fella.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Sex.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It is I Brad Gilmore, and we are here to
talk about my second pick of six. So I'm I'm
a third of the way through with my movie recommendations
to you. And this is nineteen sixty Nine's On Her
Majesty's Secret Service, starring George Lazenbee. Taking over the role
was James Bond. I'm excited to talk to you about

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this one because this movie there's a reason I picked it.
This movie was the only Bond film It was never
shown in those like Spike TV Thanksgiving marathons or like
TNN if you remember that, like they used to always
do the Bond marathons during Thanksgiving, and they never showed
on Her Majesty's Secret Service. So this was a movie
I had to seek out. And I remember there was

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a videotape like a VHS cassette in the Blockbuster. It
was like the story of James Bond. It was a documentary.
It was like an hour long, and it was the
first time I ever heard the name George Lazenbee. So
I'm young in my Bond career, I haven't watched much,
and so I remember seeking this movie out because I'm like,

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who is this other Bond? And then I watched on
Her Majesty Secret Service. This movie has a very interesting
I think the pre production of the movie is almost
as fascinating as the film itself. But being that it's
Laysenbe's one and only and being in recent years, it's
actually found a different audience and way more appreciation than

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on its initial release, I thought it would be an
interesting film to talk about and discuss. Now you I
want to ask you this first, where are you on Bond?

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Like?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Are you a big Bond guy not a Bond guy?
Who's your Bond? Like, let's talk about that first.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Okay, So in watching this movie, which I had not seen,
that's the point of pick six. I went through the
list of of all the Bond movies because I felt
I knew Bond pretty well and I've seen a lot
of Bond movies. I discovered as I went through the list,
I have not seen probably half of them. And I

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also realized as I went through I stopped at Dalton,
I have not seen any Pierce Proston. I have not
seen any Daniel Craig.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I tapped out after License to Kill, and I think
I've only seen two Bond movies in my entire life.
This would make sense now since I tapped out then
in the movie theater and they were Licensed to Kill
and Never Say Never again.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ah the unofficial.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
So even like not only am I off, I'm like
off the timeline. So I guess in a way I've
seen Thunderball as well well, if you want to out,
same story, right. So that's it. So my experience watching
Bond movies was always seeing it on TV, and they

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used to come on a lot, I think on the
local ABC network on just like weeknights's or maybe the
weekend I don't remember, but it would just be Tonight's
movie of the Week, and it's one of the James
Bond and so I would I also realized as I
was watching this, I don't think I've seen a lot
of Bond movies from start to finish. I would see

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them on TV. And this is pre like, even before
we had a VCR and all that. So I kind
of as a kid be in and out of the
room and probably get pushed out of the room during
certain scenes when it got a little racy. And so
I'm not even sure because of that, I'm aware of
Bond movies, but I probably if you played a clip

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other than who was playing Bond, I might not be
able to identify which Bond movie it is. I just
know I want to be able to look at it
and say, ah, from Russia with love, it'd be, oh,
one of maybe based on Connery's hairpiece, which one it
would be as he's aging as that goes on. Yeah,
So I wrote that joke down like an hour ago.

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I was super excited about that one. Came up with
that one in the shower hair piece joke. So not
huge Bond, which is interesting because as I watched this,
I realized I was going to be talking with a gentleman.
Brad Gilmore actually wrote a book on Bond, so I
have a lot of questions.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, Bond, James Bond, Exploring the Shaking Seward History of
em Flamings Double seven available wherever you get your books.
But yeah, so for me, it's funny. The actual earliest
memory I have of Bond is there was a a
VHS cassette. My dad used to have like a wall
of cassettes of movies, you know. I think everyone had
the entertainment storage center where it was just filled with

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movies and he had taped Never Say Never Again off
of TV and it was just like a white label
with a blue or purple writing that said James Bond.
I didn't even say which movie it was. But I
think for me, and it's probably similar story for a
lot of people, is Bond is kind of a father

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son thing, right, is like, hey, Dad love Bond, you know,
And it was like, well, I like Bond because Dad
likes Bond. And then we talk about Bond, you know,
you watch them and you're like, oh, Conrie. Conrie to
me is still the best Bond by far in my opinion.
But when you watch those Daniel Craig movies. If you
watch Casino Royale now, it's like, I feel like I
have to put it on another list, but we can't

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do two Bonds in the first season pick Bond. But
it's just it's just one of those It's just one
of those series that I feel like, once you understand
the formula of it, like you look forward to the
formula of Bond. Which is interesting with this movie breaks
so much of the formula early on because we were
used with Conrie of Cold Open that doesn't really have

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to do with the movie into a beautiful title sequence
and a great song, and then with the with the
theme song, which is kind of different here in this movie.
And then you go into the mission the first Bond girl,
and then you get the main Bond girl. You get
the Q scene with all the gadgets, a great villain

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who is like kind of a second in command to
the big villain, which is blow filled in this movie,
which is in most movies in the early eon productions.
And you know, you get the cool gadgets you u
see amuse the gadgets, the car, all the things. We
get some of that in this Bond, but not a
lot of it. This was an interesting kind of turn

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I think for James Bond in a lot of ways.
So why why don't we address the lazan Bie of
it all? So they do five movies Doctor No from
Russia would love Goldfinger, Thunderball. You only live twice. And
then Conry's done. As you said, his hair piece is

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at a whack. He's not doing Bond anymore. It's over.
He's going to sail into a different directions.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I's already played a Japanese guy. Where do you go
after that?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
After you play a Scottish Japanese which is a very
normal hybrid in those days, where do you go? So
he steps out of it and as the story goes,
if you watch the Eon Productions documentary Everything or Nothing,
or you watch Becoming Bond on Hulu. Actually, later in
the podcast, I'm going to play my interview with George
Lazenbee that I did a few years back. So he'll

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fail in a probably a lot of these details, maybe
repeat some of them. But he was an Australian model
who had never acted before a day in his life
and heard they were looking for the next James Bond.
According to him, he steals Sean Connery's suit from Salvo
Row gets his haircut like him at the same barber
walks into your saltsman's Harry Saltzman, who was one of

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the producers at the Times Office, and says, I hear
you looking for the next James Bond. This is kind
of and here I am asked him, where does he
did movies before? Have you ever acted before? Yeah? I
did a movie in Japan, I did one in Germany,
named a bunch of places where he thought that Harry Saltzman.
At the time, in the sixties, you couldn't find these movies.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Google it.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I can't google it. And next thing you know,
he's on the set of Bond. They thought he was
gay at first because he was a model. They sent
a hooker to his room, like this is what they
did in the sixties. I guess, huh, and found out
that he Wasn't.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
We need to find out? Should we ask him? No,
I have a better idea. Let's send up prostid and
see what he does. But what if he's just morally like, oh, no,
thank you, I should I should get to know you.
He if he's straight, he won't do that. Yeah, And

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apparently he didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And he didn't. He didn't, he did not do that
and uh. And so they found out that they sent
him to all kinds of tests of like swimming and
horseback riding really try to see like, we don't really care,
So what about the acting.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Look, the gay thing was first they're like, hey, we
should see if he could act, But first we need
to know, Yeah, this guy's sexual orientation, right.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Which I guess, you know, still to put in perspective,
I guess in the sixties it's still.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Whoa, Hey, well that character too is yeah, a very
masculine character, so.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Right, And so they had concerns. Turns out he's not.
He's not any of the things that they were concerned with,
which you know.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Not gay or an actor that kay, or an actor.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Not if there's anything wrong with that, And and he goes,
he goes, I think the story goes on his first
day in production, tells the director, I've never acted a
day before in my life, and the director says, fooled.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
You.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Guess what, you fooled some of the most ruthless people
in Hollywood. So keep your mouth shut and I'll make
you the next James Bond. And then we get on
Her Majesty's Secret Service. How much did you know of
the lays and Bee story?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
I knew a bit because I think I had seen
the all or not It's all or nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
About the documentary everything or nothing, everything or nothing.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
All or nothing. I'd seen that, so I knew a
lot of the backstory. I knew that he had only
done one. I was into the impression that the movie
did not do well, but that's not the case. It
did very well as far as James Bond movies go,
so it wasn't that. But I knew a lot of
the backstory going in. So when he has, I mean,

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we'll talk about this, I'm sure, and I think, well,
one of the questions I want to ask you is
the Bond guy is do you think knowing the backstory
of the movie hurts or is better as a first
time viewer of this movie.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Knowing what he had to do to get Bond right.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Knowing behind the scenes, knowing it's a new guy, knowing
that the production of it was kind of wonky as
far as everything they were doing, mix it up, like
which Bond movies they were gonna do, you know, try
to find snow for the end and then him being

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one and done basically insane, and that's it. Do you
think it's good to know that? Or is it better
to go in not even knowing that they're going to
change James Bond and all of a sudden, because the
opening scene you get a lot of close ups of
him driving the car almost like they're way to do
to like pull the like for the curtain to go up,

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and here's the new guy. So it already feels like
the way it starts is everybody watching this nose this
is not gonna be Sean Connery, but we're going to
make you wait for a while. And then so much
so that after his fight he is going to break
the fourth wall, look into the camera and basically knowledge

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that he's the new actor by saying.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
The other fellow, which is probably the most iconic line
from this movie. Like when people think of this movie,
it's like in Bond circles, everyone always will say like,
that's never happened to the other fellow, and it's like
a funny thing that we you know, it's kind of
an insider joke or what have you. So I think
a few things. I think it does enhance your viewing experience,

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if you know what happened and how he got the
role of Bond. Because when I first saw this movie,
and this is before like a bunch of documentaries and
books are written about Bond, I remember asking my dad
about lazenb and he's like, oh, he's the one who
he did won and he got fired because it wasn't
any good, right, That was kind of the sentiment, when
in fact he was not fire at all. He did

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the Bond. They wanted him to do more and he
he turned them down, right, which is insane to think.
And one of the reasons was he was like, I
don't want to be typecast is James Bond. And the
great irony is that he's typecasted James Bond. And what's
unfortunate is there is bit of a narrative about him.

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Even on on shows or movies. You'll hear people refer
to him as a joke like, oh, I'm the Lazon
b I don't want to be the Lazenbe or you
who you think you are lazing? You know, it's like
a thing like your name carries a certain maybe like.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
A cup and Oliver. When they introduce a kid to
a sitcom like oh, shows on its way out right,
but he's like a shorthand for one and done.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Exactly that didn't couldn't, didn't live up to the guy
before exactly. And so to me, I think it helps
because if you know that he actually decided to step
away on his own, it kind of makes you go Okay,
so it wasn't because he did a bad performance. Now

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you can discuss his performance in certain ways. At certain
times you go, oh, this guy is kind of green
and not hitting this dialogue really well. And then there
are moments where it does work and he feels confident
in the role, and then there's some weird adr for
like thirty minutes. So are you surprised, let me ask

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you this, Are you surprised that this is regarded in
most lists as one of the best Bond movies?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yes, because we've talked a bit for a little bit.
We've talked about this a little bit, and I haven't
even said I personally didn't get it. It wasn't. I'm
moviegoers still in nineteen sixty nine. Maybe in fifty years
I'll catch up, and then I'll have the appreciation that

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Christopher Orlans and the Steven Soderberghs have now where they
think it's the best Bond movie and they love it,
and I the reasons that they say, I agree because
I love the cinematography. I think the the we're going
to talk about that, the snowscapes and everything in Switzerland
is fantastic. But when he has his scene with Moneypenny

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at the big very beginning and he's walking in, I thought,
uh oh, because he's to me he was very to
use his life later, very stiff, but not in a
great way. We'll get to that too, And it seemed

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like the only scene they were doing where they were
trying to it was the segue from Connery to the
new guy, where he's basically walking in and everyone's treating
him like it's still Connery. Money Penny still wants to
bang him, and everyone's talking to him, but he even
goes like through his memoirs of remember when I had this,

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And it's so they're telling you same guy, which another
question for you. Do you think that's good to always
happen to be the same guy. Could they have just
said double oh seven is the title, James Bond is
the name we give, but this is not the same guy.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, that's been a fan theory, you know. Before it's like,
hey is double oh seven and James Bond itself a
code name for these different people who inhabit it. I
like the continuity of the character. I think it just
makes you feel a certain connection to him throughout the movies,
even though they're not interconnected as we like now expect
since the Marre Reign of Ours started. This was their

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first attempt, and they definitely even in the opening credits,
they're like, we're gonna show you clips from the other movies.
This is the same guy.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
It's the same guy.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Same film Bond we did in the before. There's Honey Ryder,
there's Pussy Galore, there's a lady you know what I mean. Here,
here we go. He's from Russia with Love. Here's Thunder. Yeah,
we're showing you all of them, right, and then you're right.
There's a moment where he resigns and then goes through
his desk and he like sees the dagger of Honey

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Rider and they start playing underneath the Mango tree.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
They playing from Russia with Love. Cool.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
They play a little gold Finger. Yeah, I like that,
but it's just again, we're showing you, same guy, same guy,
same guy. I will say I do love that they
acknowledged it because in the opening scene, the cold open,
although I'm not exactly sure why Diana Rigg was walking
into the ocean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I have questions for that.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's unanswered. Her question.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Entire relationship we don't get because they somebody questions about
she's suicidal.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
She is suicidal. She's walking in there. Bond stops for
some reason that were not really sure of and saves her.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Right, he doesn't know her, He.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Doesn't know her, so he saves her.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
A guy what saved him?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
No, but the filmmakers were worried that he would.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
He would have, so they said that night.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So so like, I liked that he acknowledged it because
everyone's thinking it. I liked that they did. That's not
whatever happened. This never happened to the other fellow. I
like it. I would have preferred him not looking the camera, right,
but I understand it. I even like in the gun
barrel scene where he gets down on one knee and
they're showing us this is going to be the Bond
who is like different, gets down on one knee. He's

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going to ask the woman to marry him right. Although
people say that that wasn't intentional. I have a hard
time believing that it wasn't, but I like them acknowledging it.
I do feel though his performance. I feel two ways
about it. One, for this to be his first movie
acting ever anything kind of like that, I am surprised

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at some of the stuff he pulls off. And then
for it to be his first movie and you tell
me that I can see it, do you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
But going back to what you said about knowing the backstory,
if you don't know anything about everything that happened, and
all of a sudden he says, this never happened to
the other fella. If you don't know anything, you're like,
what other fella? I guess because he's not really James Bond.
But then everybody treats him like James Bond. But then
Blowfield does it or even recognize him later in the movie.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's that's he's.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Supposed to be the same guy. And then I guess, techlely,
Blowfield's not even the same guy. So if they're not
the same guy, perfect makes sense because then he can
be like, oh, you're double oh seven now huh. And
if you haven't seen the movie listeners, then you're very
confused because.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
The movie before they see that. Well, I think that yes,
there's there's ways they could have benefited it benefited from this.
Now you also ought to think they were cranking movies out.
So this is the six James Bond they started in
sixty two. This is sixty nine, right, Yeah, so they're
pretty much doing a Bond film a year, and they're

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just like, we gotta keep it going, keep it going,
keep going.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I just think for tone wise, either, they I
think they just wanted to have their cake and eat
it too. They're like, hey, different guy. Not different guy,
different guy, different attitude, different everything, but same guy because
it does bounce around. You know, he's he's flirty with Moneypenny,

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and then he goes off and you know, he meets
Diana Rigg, who is amazing. I could I love her.
She's my favorite character. I kind of wanted her to
be James Bond. I wanted her. I wanted to follow
her for the movie. And he falls in love with
her because she's dark, but not because she wants to
kill herself. And then he meets her father, who's a

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mob boss who wants to hire him to marry his
daughter Tracy because she needs a man to discipline heer,
and Bond is the guy to discipline her. And I'll
give you a million pounds, and he says, no, I
will not take a million pounds. However, I need some

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info to find slow film the bad guy from the
other movie, So I'll wine and diner for you for
some info. So his motives are not necessarily romantic, considering
this is the romantic James Bond movie. And then so
he goes off to the restaurant in the snow, which

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is a cool little air and then the other thing
I wrote at the shower, so I'm very proud of
this line. Then he walks into basically an episode of
Flavor of Love where he's got every race of hot woman, yes,
just hanging around. And the second he walks in disguise
because he's pretending to be a scientists.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I think he's I think he's a genealogist.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
That's it. Yeah and gay.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, because remember like at first one of the girls goes,
what's a gana genealogist?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, yeah, So here's a game where this is what
I mean by having too so romantic bond. But then
we go in hard On like a twelve year old
wrote these bond scenes. Because now he goes in, it's
like every beautiful woman in the world. They all have dinner,
and all these women from different nations have the most
phallic dish from their region they possibly can, and they're

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just like the Asian one is like sucking on her chopsticks,
and they're just they're they're just mesmerized by him. And uh, oh,
what's her? Who's the cute one with the harpo marks? There?
Then the named the well, there's two.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
He goes off with, Oh, you're talking about the first one.
Who her name is? I will tell you. I have it,
tell you who is it? Because one of the angels
of death or whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
The angels of death. So Blowfield has the angels of death.
Ruby Bartlett Ruby, Okay, so Ruby, good old Ruby. I
thought she was fun. She's allergic to chickens. She's there
because she's allergic to chickens, and she's a farmer, I guess.
So that's a problem. Yes, not a great job to
choose if you're allergic chickens. But she's there, and all

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of them have all the angels of death. They all
have some kind of allergy.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yes, yes, that's why they go.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, they go there to get rid of their allergy.
And she's got to get over this, this salergy of chickens.
Just it's it's I can't, I can't live with this.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
So he.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
While she's sitting there, good move by the way. She
gets she wants him to go to her room, but
they've got the cock blocker there. And now my favorite
small character is a bunt. Yes, uh, irma bunt. She's
the mean little german chaperone. It doesn't want anybody to

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have fun. She brings them in. She's like staying away
from the man, all you hordy women. And so they
all sit around and then he's wearing also, he's dressed
in a kilt and a little frilly thing around his neck.
And uh she uh, what do we say?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Her name was irma bunt?

Speaker 4 (28:34):
No, no, no, the ruby, hordy ruby Ruby gets her lipstick,
reaches down under his kilt to write her room number
down on his leg. She's down there for a while.
So I was very surprised. Later, I thought it was
gonna be like four digits. I did some time in
it there, and I'm like, yeah, it's eight. It would

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be better if it was like one. But then it
probably it's a good thing she wants one because he
just like, no, she just made a weird mark on
my leg, so it's lucky it's eight. So then he
gets fine. Then I don't know what this had to
do with the mission, but he goes to her room
and this is where he learns that there's some kind.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Of weird mind control or something.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Oh yeah, that there's a subliminal messages going on. When
they go to sleep, the voice of Bloomfield comes in
and says, no, you are going to be under my control.
But he does have sex with her, of course, and
then he goes to another room where another one of
the death Nancy, gives her the same lines. They both say, oh,

(29:42):
I didn't know you like girls, and he says, oh,
I normally don't. But then he has sex with her
the same night, so apparently he's forgotten about Tracy.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, I will tell you yes, several things here.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Several things.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Okay. First, Ruby Barlett is is the name of the
English woman or who he beds first, who had room
number eight. She is actually funny. This is her second
Bond movie. She was in the sixty seven Casino Royale,
which was like a comedy parody Bond movie. So and
this was two years later, so they're like, oh, hey,

(30:18):
let's get her, which is weird. And Ursula Andres was
in that movie too, who played honey Rider in Doctor No.
But the plots of Bond movies, let's just I'm gonna
start there. They normally don't make sense right there. The
plot has always been secondary and a lot of the

(30:40):
times they're just recycled from movie to movie. It's like, oh,
this is kind of like like if you look at
the plan of A View to a Kill, which I
don't know if you've seen that when it was eighty
five is one of them? Okay, if you look at eighty.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Into the Fire.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's one of the great ones. But the song is.
But if you look at the plot of that and
you look at the plot of Goldfinger, they're almost the
same plot, right, very similar.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Which is why I mentioned it's hard for me to
know which Bond movie I'm watching because of that very reason.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
You're like, wait, is this the news?

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Even this movie had the casino.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Had a casino back around that was nice.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
So when they went to play, I'm like, Okay, there
you go.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Which which which is one of my favorite shots in
the movie. We'll get into categories here in just a second,
but like where they there's a few camera things that
I liked it. They do like a few editing. Now
there's also some bad editing in this movie. There's a
couple up.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
As the time I chalked it up when they kind
of speed up when he's the very cool scene where
he's on the ski lift like on the wire is great,
but everyone's while they under cranked the camera a little
bit to make it look like he's going faster, and
so all of a sudden it's a Charlie Chaplin movie.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
The undercranking of the fight scenes I actually liked. I
actually liked how the fight scenes were shot in this movie.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
It was preborn porn identity.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's very steady, STEADI cam like boom, close up, real
quick cuts. Sure you know, I really actually enjoyed how
the fights were all shot for the most part. And
I do like the transition they do from here's the
beautiful pool at the casino during the day and then boom,
it's at night and the words casino are reflected in

(32:21):
the pool, so we know we're about to get some
Bond stuff. I enjoyed that aspect of it. But yeah,
the Bond movie plots, they don't make a lot of sense.
And really when he goes undercover as Sir Hillary and
he goes to the Switzerland to the Lair, which actually
all time great Layer really enjoyed the Layer. I enjoy
the iciness of it. You know, in the underground, the

(32:44):
view is.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Beautiful, beautiful. I'm just sit out there looking out the window.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
The multicolored room at one point, I enjoy I enjoyed
all that. But the fact is system he goes to
Switzerland as Sir Hillary to pretend to be a genealogist
to help Blowfeld, who's now posing as somebody else account
help him track down his family lineage. But Blowfeld isn't

(33:12):
really this person he's pretending to be. But he had
surgery on his ear lobes to show us that he
is a different I guess that's how we explain that
he's a different Blowfield. And then when you want to
go into the next movie, which is Diamonds Are Forever,
the way they try to explain that Blowfeld is crazy.

(33:32):
But anyway, so like.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
The plot isn't rid of the Scar too.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, Scar still got the cat and he's bald, so
we know the same guy. Yeah, yeah, but it's just
the plot doesn't make sense. And here's the other thing
is they're like Tracy doesn't like Bond. Is like when
they're adding Spain at the Matador thing like she's like
not feeling him, just tell him what he wants to know, Dad,
so he can leave me alone. And then he tracks

(33:59):
her down and then they we get this montage of
they're in love and they're shopping.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Then we get to hear the theme song.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Which is an all time Bond theme song, All the
Time in the World from Louis Armstrong in a way
I like I says world is wild wild.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I hope this is a clip the clipt on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
But but the Bond's song is great. It wasn't in
the opening credits, which you should have been. Sometimes they
did that.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
It's a little it's a balance, so I can see,
well they've had balance.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Most of them are balady. So yeah, it makes it's
an all time or or nobody does it better, which
is the spy who loved me, so anyway, they then
that's where the movie feels like two movies to me.
So it's like, there's the love story, and then we're

(34:57):
going to stop the love story for about forty five
minutes and we're gonna be in the Alps for a while, right.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I agree. It did feel like I and I felt
watching it. It kicked in like it was like, all, like, well,
the first forty it's funny you say it forty five minutes. Yeah, like, Okay,
this is gonna be a rough episode where I'm going
to walk in and go sorry, Brad, your movie's dog poop. Yeah,
but once he gets there, I'm like okay, and then

(35:27):
I enjoyed all that, and then but Tracy shows up again,
and then he anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well Tracy, So I guess we're meant to think, Okay,
she's a ride or die. So she finds where he's at.
She says that my dad told me where you were,
and that's why she's there. But yeah, when when he's
there for forty five minutes of the movie, it's just
like we're not talking about Tracy. I'm asleep with other women.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah, I'm the same, Like an hour apart.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
An hour apart same night, and then I'm set up
dates for later. I'll see you at eight, I'll see
you at We're going to get this thing popping. He's
Sir Hillary and got to go around the world. And
I think they even make an assertion that some of
the women thought that he was gay. Right, They're like, oh,
we didn't know you were in there.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
We'll say I didn't know you like girls. So, which, now,
with your backstory.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Maybe that was an inside Joe.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
The backstory helps. Let's even have a line that they
all think.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
He's gay, gay and and and and that is ad
r right when he's Sir Hillary with his accents.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Not his voice, right, didn't think it's somebody else to
do it, just like even the dad mop dad is
somebody else's voice, I think.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
So, I think that there's for the majority of the movie,
it's Lazybe's voice. But when he's Sir Hillary, it's a
very distinct British accent that doesn't sound.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Not that good. That he's pulling off a whole different voice.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
All different voice, beautifully and perfectly. So I feel like
that was.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Well, maybe that's why Blowfield was confused. He's like, it
looks just like Bond, but he's got Yeah, he's wearing
glasses and he's a homosexual. Plod is clearly aheterosexual.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, this is not yet.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
I'll figure it out later.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
So those are weird. It's just the plot didn't get me.
And I think the movie's too long. You know, the
movie's too long. It's like two hours and twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I will say, yes, very long, but if it's going
to be long, it seemed like this movie is basically
held up as this is the serious Bond, the romantic bond,
but the relationship with Tracy seems like super rushed, and
for me, it feels like, why does she even like him?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
We don't understand.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
And he did seem to like her, and then when
he finally gets back together with her because she shows up,
he says, you know, there's not another woman like you.
I'm thinking, yeah, there are there twelve in the room
and you've already gotten through two of them, and will
you marry me? She's like, yeah, all right. That seems

(38:00):
for mister I enjoyed the bachelor life, which he says
at the beginning when he's offered a million pounds to
hang out with Tracy. Now He's like, yeah, oh, I'm
Mary All maybe those those last two that at the layer,
He's like, I got a what am I doing with
my life? This is I'm lying to these women, I

(38:20):
am I'm coming up with this fake accent they're writing
on my leg and it doesn't even phaze me? What
am I doing with my life? And he feels like
now I got to settle down.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, It's just there's there's aspects of it that work
for me in aspects that don't, which I just feel like,
this is an interesting movie to talk about, you know,
And that's why I like to kind of bring it up.
And this is a really just interesting backstory. I have
a couple other notes and then we'll get into the categories.
I think the only time in any movie ever there's

(38:52):
like a joke about Bond that he knows everything right,
like he's just an expert at everything. And there's a
laugh out loud moment in this movie for me, and
so the only time I've ever heard this word in
my life is where he goes to visit M like
midway through the movie and m is looking at a
bunch of butterflies, right, and Bond makes a comment about

(39:15):
the size of one of the butterflies and how it's
unusual for the species, right, And then EM goes, I
didn't know you were into lepidopetry. Lepidopatry, which is the
only time I've ever heard that word in my life.
And you know that is the study of butterflies or moths.

(39:37):
And then I was reminded of the Norm McDonald moth joke,
which made me laugh. And then I thought, I'm going
to use lepid opatry in a sentence sometime in the
next week and really blow somebody's mind, right, and sound
very educated. I have to. I had to make point
of that, and.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Then please do it at a pro wrestling event.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I'm a you know what I'm gonna bring.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Letardu blind like a moth and believe me, I am
an expert.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I'm a lepidopatrist at it. So I know I had
to throw that one out there. But okay, let's get
into some of these categories. Do you want to get
into these categories? Yeah, okay, here we are. We're gonna
break these down categories here on pick six. We got
some new categories that we're gonna throw in here. We're
gonna start with some performance and characters. Uh scene Steeler,

(40:26):
Who's got the crown for you? In this one? Tracy
Diana Riga ri kill it number one.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Like I said, I wanted her to be the star.
She felt to me like she was the one that
had her all together and Bond was her sidekick. It
did feel it shows up She's like, you come with me.
It did feel like was interesting. So I could see
at that point I got why he liked her, and
maybe that's why he made the big changes, like hey,
this I'm you know, I may know a lot about lepidopatry,

(40:58):
but I but this this lady right here.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Is this one of the things where it's like, hey,
we know that our lead isn't a strong actor because
he's never acted before, so let's put a really strong
actress with him.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
If they did, she should have been with him the
whole movie. Yeah, she should have gone to Switzerland too
and been like his partner throughout the whole thing. And
that would have been interesting. But then that becomes almost
like I thought about this too. There were certain things
I could tell Austin Powers was spoofing from this particular movie,
including Blunt. You could see definitely her character and it's

(41:41):
it's it's what I think of when people see scary
movie before they see Scream, Like, oh, that must be
rough to see the parody first and then go back
and watch what it's doing, because how seriously can you
take the original one?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, so I did.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Have moments when I'm like, I'm picturing Austin Powers right
now when the other fairly sure of course, And of
course Doctor Evil is definitely a Blowfeld and but uh yeah,
that would have been interesting if those two stuck together. Yeah, well, movie,
she's I hope she shows up at the next one
because she's great.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, well, well, we'll get to that in a moment.
I agree, I agree it with Diana Rigg. I want
to talk more about Diana Rigg here in a moment,
But let's go to cameo King and Queen. Who gets
the medal for the best cameo in this movie? I
have an answer, but it's kind of a it's an
overall answer.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Oh, let's hear yours.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
So mine is Desmond Llewellen, who plays Q, even though
he's not really in this movie a lot. He played
Q from sixty three, where we first see him in
from Rushwood Love into Into all the way almost into
two thousand, right, he played the World is not enough

(42:55):
in the World's.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Not is the Q character not in Doctor No.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Q is is not in Doctor No No. Okay, now
we don't see him until the second movie, which is
From Russia with Love, where his name is is a
major booth Royd but also known as Q. And then
that's the only time I think they referred to him
as booth Royd. Ever again, I'd go by Q two.

(43:19):
But like he played he played Q through Sean Connery.
Uh yeah, Roger Moore, he played with George Lazenbye. He
played it with Timothy Dalton all the way through the
third of four Pierce Brosnan movies. And the only reason

(43:42):
he didn't can They were planning for his kind of
successor to come in, which is my guy from uh
from uh oh my gosh, all the Melbrooks movies, John Cleeves,
Monty Python, and they were kind of planning for him.

(44:04):
He was actually John Cleeves was first known as R
because R comes after Q. You get it Q R.
But Desmond Llewellen died in a car crash, so it
wasn't like he aged out of the role or he died.
He unfortunately died in a car crash.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I took him, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
And he was probably going to be in more Bond movies.
He was in seventeen seventeen of the twenty five, so
he was.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Allowed to age, and then everybody else stayed young. He'd
be like the only aging character of the Simpsons.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Right right. And well, the thing is is like for Bond,
That's why I'm saying the rules were always a little loose.
Is like, we get new money pennies, we get new Bonds,
we get new IM's, we get new Felix lighters all
the time. There's like I think every movie had a
different Felix for a while. They would just change him
every time, so he'd be like, oh, this is Grizzwell

(44:58):
kids exactly. It's like the Griswold Kids, and and then
and then you change M and then like like the
always interesting thing with Bond is so m was played
by Judy Dinch through the Pierce Brosnan movies. And then
they're like, hey, we're gonna reboot Bond, and we're gonna
start him from the beginning because Casino Royale is like
the origin story of Bond. But we're still gonna have

(45:19):
Judy Dinch because how could you not have Judy den
even though it doesn't make sense that she's in this one.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
I kind of like that though where there were the
rules are there are no rules.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
It's just because whatever we want for this movie that's Bond.
There's no there's there's no one.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Reference that they're that he in this been on Majesty's
Secret Service service, that something happened a few years ago
in the sixties, so they do acknowledge years in time. Yeah,
but then the you know, technology and the time period
moves right along, but that's still youngish Bond. Roger Morton's

(45:57):
land not so much, but everybody else if you like
Roger Bard, if you do to Kill, He's just shuffled along.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
He's like I'm like in my I think he was
in his sixties at the time, or maybe late fifties.
I think it was fifty eight. I think it was
fifty eight at a running double. Yes, yeah, yeah. And
when he actually when he took over his bond for
Living let Die, he was older than Sean He is
older than Sean Connor chronologically speaking, and he was like

(46:25):
and he did seven Bond movies. Okay, who do you
have for the cameo king or queen?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Who do you like? Oh? That goes to Elsa Stephart. Stephart,
who is my irma. I thought she was cool. I
like that. She just she just was a big old
bee and she certainly becomes very important at the end
of the movie. She definitely, and so much so that
she the real actress I read passed away. That's a downer.

(46:55):
We're just talking about all these dead actors. But she
passed away right after. I guess they had planned on
kntent you in her character in the Bond movies, but
she died and they did not recast her. They just went, well,
that's it for her.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah. Well, I mean, if you see the end of
the movie, you would think that we are going to
continue with this. Yes, and we're going to talk about
that in a minute. Okay, this is a new category
that I like. Okay, the better when Nicholson or Denzel
test would this be movie be better with Jack Nicholson
or Denzel Washington in the lead. I do think the

(47:27):
movie would be better with Denzel or Jack in the lead.
What do you think? And I have which one I
would prefer both.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
I do too, but it depends on because this movie
for me, is so bipolar on what they wanted to be.
If it's a classic Bond, it should be Nicholson. But
if you want it to be romantic and you want
me to believe that he falls in love with Tracy
and that Tracy likes him, it's gotta be Denzel. Yeah,
I'm going to Denzel. Denzel would pull off the end

(47:55):
in a way I do not feel was pulled up
at the end.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, we have to talk about it. We're coming, but
we're coming to.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I think Denzel would make me go, oh, yeah, he's
bummed out.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Well, Denzel, just his Bond in general, would crush it.
I mean he would just.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Imagine just him coming through at the at the beginning through.
He would have taken knee.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
All right, all right, okay, all right, all right, Oh.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Buddy, Petty, please get off me.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
This blue magic So Brian Nate, it's a terrible impression.
It's really bad. I can't do Denzel. I can't do
Jack either. They're two very impressionable people. I like Denzel
as James Bond, but I think Jack could pull it
off too. But he do it a little bit different,
you know. All right, this is where we're going to
talk about it. The great Scott moment. Could I get

(48:46):
a great Scott.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Right, Scott.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Grey Scott moment of the film is where Tracy dies,
I mean getting shot in the head through the window.
That's how the movie ends. They in the movie she dies.
You buying this love story? You're there for it? Okay,
say you buy in, Say you're there. You have the wedding,
it's exciting, We're happy. Bond's actually gonna ride off into

(49:19):
the sunset, and.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
You're thinking, boy, this changes the entire franchise forever. The
lady killing Bond is now got a wife. How are
they going to handle this in the future.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, they're gonna kill her about five minutes after he
gets married.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Poison on the Loops.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
No, this one. She gets shot right in the head.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
She gets shot in the face.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
In the face through the window.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Bun Yeah, butt on the way, just in a little
drive by like they were waiting.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
With driving, which was interesting. Yeah, yeah, Blowfelders driving.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Why was he taking the shot because he knows she didn't.
He didn't even need to be in the car. Really,
she could have probably done it with just one hand
stick it out of.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
The Maybe maybe he couldn't do it because he was
going to marry her right blowfield at won't be I
want you to be my contest. And she's like, I'm
already conscious.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Yeah what else you got? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Maybe he's like okay, she does gotta go, but I
can't do it. I'll drive and then maybe like the
he maybe oh maybe he installed. He's like, oh, though
we missed it. They left, and then they pull over
Bond and missus. Bond pull over because the little Braddy
kids are driving by, like giving him crap for getting married,

(50:37):
and they got flowers all over their car. So he
pulls over to like, I gotta get rid of these.
I mean, I'm married, but I don't want to look
like I need a prostitute sent to my room. So
he gets all the flowers off the car and that's it.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
That's it, that's all.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Huh And she gets shot in the verse and then
that's it, and then, uh, don't worry about people wondering
how Bond was going to contin you as a married man.
You won't, okay, worry about it.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Okay, Okay, let me ask you, because it does because
part of this doesn't make sense, and it sounds like
I don't like this movie, and I but I do
like this movie.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Such movies that I like, I have toured apart because
of details like this. So I don't feel that way.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
But so and you know, to me, Bond is like
is like pizza, Like is there really such a bad thing?
That's bad people? That's true, It's still it's still Bond,
and I still like it. But when she gets shot
and he realizes it, a patrolman, I think, comes up
to check on the car, and he's like, I guess

(51:38):
we have? Is everything all right? He's like, everything's all right,
Everything's fine, She's she's resting, we have.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
All in the world. No, sir, she's dead.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
And I didn't really get it. I understand that he
was sad that his wife that he just married died
and that sucks. He's a quitter, but he's I don't know,
like I guess I was just confused. I was confused
by his reaction.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
This is when when I said, it feels rushed, but
this really felt like they just needed her not to
be at the sequel. But I read that this was
if he had if Dell had been continued, had continued on.
This was going to be how the next movie started,
or it's gonna be post credits or something like that.

(52:28):
And when they got a feeling he wasn't coming back,
they're like, well, we need to kill this entire story
with him. So let's just it just felt like you
were along for the ride, and it was so rushed,
and his reaction was so just kind of defeatist, like
almost like he expected I can't have a wife, and yeah,

(52:50):
this happens. So it's like you followed the movie along,
and then they goo, it is shocking if you don't
know what's coming. If you know, if you know the
bat story of the movie, then you know that she
isn't gonna work out. And then it just kind of
feels rushed. He gives up really quick. The camera stops

(53:13):
on the bullet hole in the windshield. You sit there
for a second, and then.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Ticket you're like wait a minute, a minute, you can't
go into like the rock and theme doctor no theme
when we're like thit your morning, like what a bummer
walking out of the theater, like well that was fun,
and then oh she's dead, good night everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
It's a theme on Yeah, I think that's why.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
And I you know, some people, you know it's cheap,
and I know this is how this I guess this
is how the book probably exactly like a book and
a half, right, but it just felt like, uh, to
me as a viewer, it felt like they didn't know
what to do with this. So it's kind of like
back to the future too, like we don't know what
to do with Jennifer, so knock her out sticker in

(54:04):
the alley and we'll come back and get her. They
didn't know what to do with her, so they just
kill her and then that's it. And so I didn't
feel like the emotion part one because Bond didn't really
seem to He was just kind of like bummed out.
And two it was like, well, we didn't really get
to even see them other than the montage like hang out,

(54:26):
so whatever, I don't care because also, you know Bond,
there's probably he'll meet somebody in the hospital that gives
him a look of some nurse will be like, oh, hello,
mister Bond, and they'll go off into the er and
do his business and they'll get over it.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, I like, I appreciate that they took a swing, right,
of like, you know what we're gonna We're gonna take
a big swing here. We got a new Bond. We're
gonna get him married, and then we're gonna kill her.
And that's how the movie's gonna end. It's gonna end
on a down note. Instead of every other Bond movie
almost up until this most recent one, No Time to

(55:04):
Die ends on a.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
On a high note.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Is like Donna, hey, everybody dance. You know. The spy
who loved me is like, where's he's making out with
the Russian chicken?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
I go O seven?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
He goes, I'm just keeping the British end ups, you
know what I mean. It's like a right, like.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
That's that makes sense, But it just seemed like to
your point, they took a swig and like he's going
to get married and then they check it out one no,
or he's not. Yeah, Jesus, she's dead.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
It's it is. It is though if you don't know
it's coming, and even when you know it's coming, it
is such a sharp turn that it is the great
Scott Moment trophy.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
You do have a dread that when you know it's coming,
you're like, oh, here we go. Kind of how you
feel throughout most of What's put a time in Hollywood,
you're like, oh, this is gonna be bad. So maybe
that's why to me it felt rush. And then when
they kick in the jam at the end, I'm like, oh,
I didn't even have time to be sad out of
the theater everybody.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's really a bummer
and people.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Must have just walked out like what was that like?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Total?

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I would love to have worked in that movie theater
and just watch everybody file out like zombies afterwards. Do
you guys like the movie? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
It's tough.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
It was it was fun. They were Bob's sledding and
that was cool.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
It's tough, man, it's a tough one.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Like the only character I believed.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
The best character of the movie kill her best character.
So we bring back Connory the thing is, and we'll
talk about I want to talk about Conry too, because
they do. They do bring Tracey. They they bring the
element of Tracy back in I think it's for your
eyes only with Roger Moore where he's just at her
gravesite and he gives her some flowers. Okay, and that's

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me but where it's like, hey, we were we're knowledging
the past to bond even in this two bond later guy, they.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Didn't wreckon it as far as that never happened that
was a dream.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
No, they definitely acknowledge it later on, which which.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Is I guess that it happened. So that's nice Lester.
Lesser franchises would have been like, Okay, Halloween four through
seven didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Eight, yes, exactly, don't want to deal with it. Yeah, okay,
it was. It wasn't for your eyes only. At the beginning,
that's where he goes, oh, yes.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Oh your.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Let's go to the best Shot Fired award. Here's mine.
This is probably something maybe you picked up on, maybe
you didn't, because there's a lot of beautiful aspects of
this movie. But my favorite shot was like a little
camera trick, which is they pick him up from the casino.
The guy has like the knife to him and he's
wearing his very like seventies like leisure attire bonds. And

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there's a scene where they're in a drop top the
and the ragtop starts to come up, and then as
the ragtop comes up, it transitions into the next scene
like that's like.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
I did not know.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Yeah, really sweet. I like that one.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
That's fine, that's I just I mentioned it before. When
they first get to Switzerland. It just the it's like
staring around the world. You're just kind of all these
helicopter shots of the of the sery and this is
me dealing with a cold winner in Massachusetts right now
and hating snow. So seeing it and appreciated and thinking, oh,
that looks nice. I would love to be there if

(58:46):
I have to be cold. I enjoyed just the I
think a lot of people that love this movie in particular,
almost always one of the first three things they say
that they love is the cinematography. So it's a it's
a very well shot movie from the beginning. And even
I did also appreciate holding off on showing Bond at
the beginning and all the cool close ups of him

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light cigarettes and getting out of the car and they
keep him in the shadows. I thought, Okay, this is
a movie that knows they're revealing a new.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Bond, right yeah, and they're gonna make you wait. They
make you wait for it, but it does pay off. Now,
I will say.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
His first line is him staying his name but I.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Think, yeah, yeah, I'm Bond James.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I'm Bond James Bond, like I got him.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Like, let's get that out of the way, all right.
Lazinbe was twenty nine when they shot this. Looked a
little bit older than twenty nine to me, but still
very young obviously, And he could have had a hell
of a run because, like, think about it, if Roger
Moore went into his fifties fifty eight, fifty seven, fifty eight,
this guy's twenty nine, he could have been your Bond

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for the next two decades.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Well, I would have liked. I liked hearing that he
I kind of thought the character was dumb and he
showed up the he showed up at the premiere like
long hair and a beard, and he's like different. Knowing that,
I thought he could have played the character more cool.
And I think the scenes that I have the most
problem with him is when it looks like he's trying
to be like straight lacepawned and even in the beginning

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part of the movie, it sounds like he's doing an
impression of Carrie Grant, and that just that's the part
that feels false. It feels like a guy who doesn't
act just doing an impression instead of just being him.
So knowing him and then seeing him in interviews which
I can't wait to listen to, he's like kind of
a doesn't give a f kind of a guy. Absolutely,

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and that would have been very interesting if that's like
he to resign at the beginning is cool, like, hey,
you're not on this mission? Why I got fine? I
quit my and then would be like, oh wait, hold on,
you're just going on vacer. That's kind of cool that
he would just be that guy at work. That's like,

(01:01:05):
I'm doing what I want to do otherwise I quit.
So tack with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
There's a link between Lazenbe's bond and Daniel Craig's bond,
Like I feel like Daniel Craig's bond, even though Daniel
Craig is like a for superior actor. No disrespect to Lazenby,
but what Craig does, I think is what Lazonbe could
have done. So I know you haven't seen any of

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the Craig movies, it's very it's a similar vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
I've seen you know clips of course, so I've seen
him do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
A little colder maybe overall, but I felt like Lazenby
could have been that kind of bond, whereas Dalton was
too cold and like too humorless. I think that he Lasenby,
with some more films under his belt and some more experience,
could have grown to what you're saying of like, I'm
this kind of cool badass, don't give a f bond.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Well, the fact that most of his fights were hand
to hand combat, but he got the gun at the end,
I kind of went o, we're back to this now.
That's a shame, because I kind of thought that was
an interesting thing to do with him too, Like, he
obviously was good at fighting choreography. So even in the
very first scene where he's like, get in the boat
so I could beat so I could choose you for

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some reason, and then he just fights him off, I thought, okay,
we're doing that's what his thing is. He's like, I
don't have a golden gun. I have golden fists. Yeah.
I kind of yeah, rough and tumble, right, And so
maybe you're right. Maybe if he had continued, that would
have been something that they would have kept going to
differentiate him from.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
There's there's definitely, like I said, a lot of connective
tissue to those Daniel Craig Bonds and now and you
know what's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Speaking of the rough and tumble.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
That was my rewind that button because anytime he had
a fight scene, I was like, oh, I'm in I
like how these are shot. I like how tough he is.
I like the hand to hand. I like there's no guns.
It shows you that like spy business isn't like as classy.
And Conrie was rough too, like you believe Conrie is
kicking somebody's ass. But in this one, I just love

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how like you say you almost made allusion to it earlier,
like the like almost a born aspect to it. The
way they're shot. It was really cool. That was my
rewind that who what did you have?

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
My rewind That is also a punch, but it is
not Bonds. It is when you know Tracy doesn't want
to get into the helicopter and her dad's like get
in the Helicopter's like no, I whoa? Her dad punches

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her in the face. She get a lot of damage
to the face of this movie, unfortunately, because Bond slaps
her too. She her father punches her and knocks her
out and then says the line I know hold on,
I haven't. It's the classic beareth the rod spoil the

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child figure, that's it. He says, oh, spare the rod,
spoiled the child and they drag her unconscious body knocked
out by his dad. And when that happened, I let
out the loudest, most embarrassing. I was not expecting it.
It's so inappropriate. Yes, and I got a weird kick

(01:04:32):
out of it. Oh my gosh, nineteen sixty nine, and
everybody was fine with it. It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
The first six bottom were not just the first six
like all of them, you know, have a dash of
inappropriate chauvinistic soogyny, but you know, the earlier ones definitely more.
I mean, there's a scene in Goldfinger where where Sean
Connery's talking to a woman and then Felix comes up
and he says, Tink, this is Felix. Tink, say goodbye

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to Felix, and he he puts her his hands on
his shoulders, turns her around, smacks her on the butt
and tells her man talk.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
So knowing that you kind of have to embrace it.
You know, either you go with it or you don't correct,
And that's part of part of it. You're just all right,
that's part of the old bond.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, very strange, very strange.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Then the mafia dad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
To me the one liner legend championship. I mean, is
it not this never happened to the other fellow? How
is it not that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
But it bothers me. I liked it when he first
said it because I thought, oh, that's what we're doing,
and then they don't sure. So I think, by itself,
that's a cool line. And when you watch it in
documentaries and clips from the movies, it's cool that they're
acknowledging it. But the whole I think it's too cheeky

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for its own good to use a British term that
it just okay, right, we're we acknowledge it, but then
forget that, we ignore that. So I guess I'll go
with it too. But I also I did appreciate him
saying I love you. I know I'll never find another

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woman like you. Will you marry me? Because we know
he will find lots of women suns then, so.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
I will say, buy that for the eye, for the irony,
I appreciate that, lie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I will say in that same scene, I like where
he says because they're about to sleep with each other,
and then he says, you know what, we have to
save that for our wedding night. And that's my new
Year's resolution or something like that because it's Christmas. Like
this movie is a Christmas movie technically it is. Yes,

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they're on Christmas night. He says, will you marry me?
And he's like, you know, we can't sleep together. That's
my New Year's resolution. And then he like knocks the
bunk down and she rolls on top of him, and
he's like, but it's not the New year yet. He's like,
I'll be more of a gentleman in about a week,

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but for now, let's just bang it out, you know, Yeah,
let's just do it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Yeah, it's my cheat day. It's my cheat day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
The prop shop pick proper item for the movie that
you'd love to own. I went with the kilt because
it's just an odd.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Oh yeah odd bond. Oh it's good. Yeah. I like
the shirt, so you can have the kilt to get together.
We make the outfit. Okay, I like it. It wasn't
a puffy shirt, but it was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
It was it was approaches. It was approaches a puffy shirt.
The best use of food or drink to me. Obviously
there's the martini that he gets with Draco. That's kind
of the classic bond of vespera martini shaking that start.
But also I'm going to shout out the advertisement in
Switzerland for the tob larone, which is still around today.

(01:08:06):
A lot of toblarone love here. I think there was
even like a toblarone and teeny or something advertised in
the background, so it was like a chocolate martini, I think.
So that's what I'm going with. What do you have?

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Yeah, well it's not food yet, but I'll give a
shout out to the chickens that are just give it
Ruby so much trouble. She obviously can make it, you know, eggs,
which is also timely right now, So yeah, the chicken
in the egg got it, whichever comes first.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
And as you mentioned, you know the the interesting dinner plates.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Yeah, that's true. All the ethnic food that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Look like yes dogs, very phallic food food.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Imagine that restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Plot hole parade. To me, there was a few, but
the biggest one for me. So when he's trying to
go to the lawyer's all and he wants to get
information on where Blowfeld is or what Blowfeld's doing, and
this lawyer in Geneva has the connection to Blowfeld and

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where he's at. He goes into his office. We see
the lawyer leave and go down the elevator as Bond
is walking in. Bond somehow has a key. We and
I explained how he has the keys to this lawyer's office.
He goes into the office. I'm assuming that at some

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point he lifts the keys from the lawyer because when
the lawyer locks the door, he goes down the elevator
as Bond's coming in. So, unless I missed it, the
lawyer gets downstairs and realizes, oh, where are my keys?
Because he like is like, oh where did I put
my keys? So he then, I guess, presumably would go

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back upstairs to look for his keys.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
But during this time, Bond has a crane operator working
on one of Draco's buildings that we see his name
in the background. And I'm going to talk more about
this guy in a minute. The blonde guy he gets
He gets a safe cracking device lifted up to the window.

(01:10:18):
He cracks the safe while he's reading a Playboy sure,
and then lowers the contents of the safe back down
to this guy all in the time that it takes
the lawyer to come back up to realize his keys are.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Missing, right, those keys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
That is a long time. So that's a plotthole inconsistency.
Also on the Playboy, I think for a second we
see a fully nude woman. Oh, I don't know if
you caught that, but Bond's looking at the centerfold as
he's walking down the hallway and you see it for
a glimpse. There is a HD man. Yeah, there is
a nude woman at one point in one of the

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Bond movies too, you see you see nipple.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Well, even when he goes into why do I always
forget her name for the chicken girl, he goes into
her Yeah, Ruby, I don't know why Ruby wants stick.
He goes into her room, and I remember this happened
a lot of Bond movies too, where they'll have like
the sheet covering and they'll like turn there they're obviously
naked underneath the sheet and it's close. It is, It

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is pretty close. And I think those were the scenes
when I was a kid, when I was on TV,
I would be like, go play with your brother for
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Yeah, yeah, I hear that one. Our next one the
Marty Something's got to be done about your kid's award
for what happens the next day?

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
To me, does he not just it has to pick
up right where left off. Yeah, and we see him
and they kind of already they've done it for for
us with all the sequels. They basically he's not going
to that grave until so he just goes about his day.

(01:12:08):
But I we talked about this before. I would have
loved to have seen what happens the next day where
she does not get shot or she doesn't die, Like
what would they have done? Yeah? Where were they now?
It's a husband wife team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah, it's interesting, very different to me. I think that, Yeah,
if you if you were to if Lazianby came back,
you'd have to pick up right here, like he's still
in the car the same way they do and back
to the future. We have to know right right at
that moment, what does he do next? Does he go?

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
Tracy is played by Elizabeth Shu and she has a
bad wig.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
The genre swap machine. Imagine this movie has a different genre.
I think I could see a musical ooh, yeah, I
could see this as amusing What did you put in
a different genre.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
I put rom com but with Blowfield and his sidekick Bunt.
I thought, those two, I want to know their story. Now,
you know, what's the relationship she's like? Is she always
that hard?

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Does she have a romantic side? And is that why
he's driving?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I like it at the end.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
So I think that Blowfield and Bunt okay, and the
you know before the end, did she get jealous of
the the parade of Angels of death?

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
How could you not? Those angels of death? They were
really they were throwing a hundred you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Know, hey, Yeah, the problem wasn't what he did. It
was just how do you pick the first two?

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
I think it's because Ruby was just Ruby definitely made
a point. She's like Ruby ran back girls. Yeah, Ruby
was all in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
The SNL, Seinfeld, Tarantino or pro wrestling trade. This is
where we replaced one actor with somebody from these universes.
Who do you have I'm interested in?

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Yeah? I know. I came up with this category and
I had terrible trouble with it, Like I don't even
know who I would pick because I was picturing in
a James Bond movie with SNL people and I'm like, well,
it's already been done. Mike Myers did that for us
and even Wealth Perrel Isn't that so? I was just
kind of going through my mind of SNL people. Okay,
I'm not doing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
SNL as far as Seinfeld characters, I would say, I'll
give bond to Nicky Mickey.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
For the rage Okay, rage, Okay, Oh, I see, I
see what you got. Okay, you know what I went.
I went in the pro wrestling universe. No shocker there
and uh Blowfeld the rock Ooh and there has to
be some big fight scene between the two of them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Yeah. Did you like? Speaking of Blowfeld, do you prefer
Donald Pleasance? Did you like Telly Sabalis's Blowfeld?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
I have mixed feelings one mixed feelings on it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
I like, I see why they did it because he
had to be more.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Physical, Yes, and he did. I wouldn't really believe going
down a calog boslid or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
But Pleasance was scary. You didn't have to do anything,
You just sit there and look creep.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Donald Pleasance was better now they had Blowfeld. What's interesting
is there's so Blowfield's part of Spector right. Specter was
first created in the book for Thunderball, and Kevin McClory
helped come up with the idea of Thunderball, right, And

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Kevin mccluy is a producer and he had the rights
to it, and so all the Blowfeld inspector characters since
they came out of this original Thunderball source material. Once
McClory and ian Eon Productions had a falling out, they
could no longer use Blowfeld, right, who was the big

(01:16:20):
Bond bad? And so there's a scene in is it
It's man, what's a golden gun? It's one of the
moors where the opening of it is or no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's one of the moors. The opening of it is
blowfelds for some reason like wheelchair bound, and Bond picks

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him up with the leg of a helicopter and sends
him down a smoke chimney and a factory, and upon
pleading with Bond to not kill him, Blofeld says, I
could buy you a delicate tan the most unexplainable line.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Then there's no rhyme or reason why he decided that's
what Bond would.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I'll buy you a delicate don't is what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
As he's got to be an inside joke or something.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
It's so strange. It's so strange. Oh boy, which one
is that?

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
I like it though? And then wasn't that the Blowfeld
that it's obviously not any of the other actors. And
it's kind of like the Chiropractor and plan Ni from
out of Space where they go out of their way
not to show his face.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Right, it was very strange.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
They had to kill him. They had to kill him
because they they knew they weren't going to use them anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah, I'll buy you a delicate buy you a delicate tessin.
It's very strange.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Why not? Hey, well it didn't work, so he what
should he have said? Come below? What should he have
offered instead of a delicate tssen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
The Here's what it says in the reddit for James Bond.
Why does Blowfeld offer to buy James delicatessen in stainless steel?

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
That's what I guess. The full line is, oh elon
musk beta delicates, so.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
It's in for your eyes only as well. For your
eyes only was made during the dispute with McClory. Mclory
was going to use Blowfeld character and never said ever again.
So Cubby wanted to show Blowfel was just a common
thug with his mafioso's style bribe offer. The line was
mentioned in Ubby Brockley's autobiography When the Snow Melts. It
refers to Italian mafia members offering this as a bribe

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to get something in exchange. A delicatessen stainless steel was
still was, and still is the top of the line quality.
Simply put your food. It's better prepared on the surface
that's easily cleaned and will not have bacteria clinging to it,
unlike a wooden cutting border other surfaces. Also, keep in
mind many vendors in the nineteen hundred sold their food

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on the streets of New York carts. If someone had
a shop or a delicatessent, they were obviously doing very well.
Digging deep, digging deep, all right, the peak of the
timeline slash peak of their powers. Check, this is peak
of their powers. For George Lasenbee, Yes, sure, yeah, Not

(01:19:20):
for Diana too, I mean for la Diana rig did
a yeah lazy did anything really substantial? Again, But Diana
Rigg this is not the peak of her power.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
M did you see last night? And soho no, that's
her last movie, Edgar Wright. Okay, she passed away. I
think even before the movie came out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
She passed away in twenty twenty, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Yeah, so this is that she filmed it, and it's
a I think it's a very good movie actually, and
she is very good in it and is different than
what you would expect.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Well to me, Diana Rigg, I mean, she would go
on to be nominated for a lot of you know awards,
Golden Globes and stuff like that. She was in Game
of Thrones obviously, that's where a lot of you know
people might know her from today's time. She's got a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Bond loves her eyes and her golden globes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
He did, but jebes and he liked the ear lobes.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
So I think that it's peak of the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Powers for Las and Bie, not the peak of the
powers for Diana Rigg, not the peak of their powers
for Telly Savalas he'd be Cojack a couple of years
after this.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Do you think it's the peak of the powers of
James Bond? And you have to get into because at
the end, I want to know where this ranks in
your Bond levels.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
So no, not the peak of the powers for Bond.
Bond gets much better as as as the story continues.
I will say what's funny is after this movie, Sean
Connery comes back for Diamonds Are Forever, which is not
a great Bond movie but a great title and a
great song, but not a great movie. But he like

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just comes up out of like a little tunnel. It's like, oh,
I think I got lost there. How they bring them back.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
So they're still like playing the like the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Knows, yes. But I will say Bruce Glover is in
the movie, which is Crispin Glover's dad, and you can
tell immediately that they're related.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Okay, but he could have also come out of the
madhole and go oh that was brutal.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
See I appreciate that joke.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
Dig deep side piled fans.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
So okay, I want to hear you on this one
directorial what ifs? So this is where we say, would
this movie be better if it was directed by Steven
Spielberg or if it was directed by Martin Scorsese.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
I will say Spielberg because Spielberg always wanted to do
a James Bond movie did and George Lucas talked to
him out of it, said I have something better. I
have a preparacter that's better than James Bond, and it's
Indiana Jones. And thus we have three very good movies

(01:22:13):
about Indiana Jones. Because Spielberg wanted to do a Bond movie,
so I think he would have done a great Bond movie.
And you know, Scorsese's great too, But Scorsese, I don't
know that this is at is wheel house. It would
be very talking about a different Bond, very different now
would be a leader to DiCaprio is James Bond. Yes,

(01:22:34):
Robert de Niro is Blofeld.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
So I will say that this is not peak of
the powers for Bond, but it's not peak of the
powers for Spielberg. This would be a great Martin Scorsese movie.
The crime element. I feel like he could really bring
the serious drama of the love story. I almost kind
of liken it to what he did in Casino with

(01:23:01):
with De Niro and Stone, and I just I just
feel like he could pull it off. You know, I
really feel like he could pull it off. And I'm
also excited they announced this week The Rock and Leonardo
DiCaprio in a Scorsese crime movie based in Hawaii.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Did you read about this? This is credible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Okay, that's confirmed this week. So I go Scorsese on
this one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
I will say I cheated on this next category. It
is the end credit song fantasy. So if we could
make this like a song like Men in Black or
Wow Wild West, you know what would be called, who
would perform and what would the chorus be? I cheated
on this, So I'm gonna tell you my my cheat,
and then I'll hear what you came up with. But
I actually used a a an existing song. I want you,

(01:23:46):
I want you to imagine it. We're gonna change the
lyrics just to include Tracy's name, but I want you
imagine she gets shot and instead of that comes in
we you and hit bath you and struck BA smooth Criminal,
Tracey A you okay? Tracy you are you?

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Okay? Tracy Diana Rigg? Are you okay? Diana? Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
And then then we could go right into dirty.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Diana, Dirty Diana Rigg? Yeah, So I got Michael Jackson
smooth Criminal.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
I know it went eighties. Yeah, because my thought on
this on this category was especially in the nineties, there
was a big like the big in credit song became
the hit. Disney of course did it with all you know,
Beating the Beast and the Lion King, and then in
Black wil Wile West we all we don't do it Daniel,
And my version was more of going with the Goo

(01:24:42):
Goo Dolls because they had the song Iris from City
of Angels which came out in the nineties, and that
was Nicholas Cage and Meg Ryan where it also ended
tragically spoiler alert for this nineties movie where Nicholas Cage
was an angel who fell in love with Meg Ryan,
a human, and decided I don't want to be an

(01:25:03):
angel anymore. I want to be with Meg Ryan. And
it does not go well in the end either for
this person. So my version was kind of like a
Tracy thing as well. And I did write words down
and I don't remember, but I don't know what I
did with them unfortunately. Oh yeah, here we go. The

(01:25:24):
course is basically, you know something along the lines up
if you walked into the ocean, I would save you,
and as long as if you walk in the ocean,
I would save your life, as long as your mob
boss dad pays me I'll make you my wife. I'm
still getting down with multiple Bond girls. However, I'll never

(01:25:45):
find another woman like you until Diamonds are forever.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Oh, there we go, Tracy, I like that one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
I like it getting like all weird al yankick on
Now one pick six.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
So here we go. We have a couple more. Okay,
we're going to go to is this true trivia nugget
from the movie we talked about lasenby a lot. We're
gonna go into our interview though with lasenbe right now,
and then we'll come back with more. Pick six to
finish these categories, and he joins me. Now one of

(01:26:25):
six men to play the iconic role of James Bond
double O seven, with over sixty five acting credits to
his name, the living legend himself, mister George lazenbe joins
us on the program. Mister lazenby, how you doing So?

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I'm doing okay. You know, Pats from the virus is
bothering me. Just the fact that it's out there. Yeah,
it changed my life. I don't travel much anymore. And
but other than that, yeah, the things are good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Well, it's great to hear Sarah. I mean obviously that's
it's changed everybody's life in many different ways. But well,
we're glad that you're safe. I'm glad that I'm safe.
We're able to have this conversation today about what I
think your journey, your story, your life is is really
one of a kind, and I'm excited to talk to
you today about it. You mean, everybody knows your name,

(01:27:16):
everybody's seen your face at one point or another. But
I wanted to start with this. You you obviously grew
up in Australia, lived in Australia for quite some time.
Talk to me about kind of beginning out there?

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
Were you?

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Were you well off in Australia. Were you from a
working family?

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
No, it's from a working family and had a bank account,
so we're a pretty poor family. And I fell in
love with Jack Singleton. Still that Jack Singleton was captital
the Australian cricket team and the best friend was the
Prime Minister, Bob Menzi's and I fell in love with

(01:27:58):
his daughter. And I went up there one day to
take her out and then to go out with me
during the day after I asked her about seven times
and her brother attacked me and put a headlock on
me on the lawn, and her mother come out to
tape me from that. And then I went into the
house and there was Bob Menzi's, the Prime Minister, sitting

(01:28:19):
on the couch talking to Belinda's father, Jack Fingers, the
cricket captain, and I said, Jesus, might you look like
Bob Menzi's because I'd never been that close to the
Prime Minister. And she was walking across the room and
she put her head hand over her eyes that she
walked a course. Anyway, we got along. Her boyfriend was

(01:28:42):
down sitting doing these exams, and we found gone out together.
And then the father didn't like the idea of me
being with her because I was a motor mechanic and
then a cars helephant, and you know, he expected her
to do better than that, so he sent it over
to England to work with Lord Snowden. And I was

(01:29:08):
getting like five letters a day at first, and then
all of a sudden they went out to one a week.
So I knews she met somebody, and I got on
a boat and it took me six weeks to get
to London, and I couldn't find her because she wasn't
at the address where she was when she was writing
to me, And there was no internet or cell phones,

(01:29:32):
and they they''t do any deep looking. But anyway, one
day I was in the Overseas Visitors Club and a
guy came in and said, oh, I just saw brunt
of it down in the road with a bunch of cricketers.
So I went down there and my heart was beating,
and the next thing I know, she's right in the
middle of all these cricketers. And I said, can you

(01:29:55):
come outside? Don't want to talk to you? I said, Now,
what every he got to say to me? To say
to me here? I said, no, I want to talk
to the outside. And then this guy must have been
the one issues with poked his head and he heard
what she said, and my fist came up automatically indicted.
They didn't think. And so I picked her up and
took her outside, put her in the car his right

(01:30:16):
hand right, and she hops out and all these cricketers
are come out of the pub and I took off.
But then I knew where she was because of the
cricket team over the Oxford cricket team, and so I
wrote her a letter and he said, well, my boyfriend's
busy doing any of his exams. We can see each

(01:30:40):
other platonically, and strangely enough, no one me or anyone
I worked with, knew what platonic meant. I was taken
her out all the seals and bugging to buy her
and then I so I just said, wrote back and

(01:31:03):
she said, we can see England platonically, and I said okay.
And I went and saw the guy that delivers the
cause and I said, where's the feather's cag gun and
he said, Bristol, on the other side of England. I said,
I'll deliver it for you for free. So I called
her and I said, he you've seeing Bristol and she
said no, let's do it. I went over to Bristol

(01:31:26):
and I had snatched the key. I asked the office
at the desk of her room as well as mine,
and I went to go to a room that night
and I had diarrhea, which I'd never had before, and
then we come. I went to go and the oh
I had to get back to the toilet, and so

(01:31:49):
I gave up after about six five, and then I
think English food got to me. And next morning at breakfast,
she told me that she couldn't believe I didn't tight
it a funny she knew. But anyway, on the way
back to London, I played about tant Jago, which had

(01:32:13):
a big fun seat. I thought, geez, I've come all
the way from Australia, I might as well. I went
unneath the freeway and grab told her. She cried the
whole way through, and then she was leaning against the door.
Then she came at me and I kind of put
my hand up to ducker. He said, I love you.

(01:32:36):
So she moved in with me. And that's why I
stayed in England. And I'd never met an actor, by
the way, when I got the bomb John, I had
not met an actor. I had met my own models,
but that was it. And I told him that I'd
work in Manchuria and Russia, places I didn't think they

(01:32:59):
could check on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
And because back then you you didn't have the Internet
or or IMDb. No, they said, just start you up
real quick, so you could have made up. However, many films.
And when you say you told them, was this Kebby
Broccoli you were talking to?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah, Kebby and Harry Kubby.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
And Harry Saltzman.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
Okay, and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
What's that they were the producers of the James Bond
films back in the year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
The original Harry Saltzman wanted to buy the rights. He
didn't have the money and they brought Kebby Broccoley and
who had the money, and that's how they got together.
And I was then they found out they bought the
director back from Switzerland to meet me. I was so

(01:33:46):
impressed with my physical because I didn't say much. I
had an Australian accent. And next thing I knew, the
director comes in from Switzerland to London to see me,
and he said, tell me what you've done. And I
don't know what made me do it, but I said,
I've never acted in front of a camera in my life.

(01:34:11):
And he got up and started laughing, walking around the room, saying,
they brought me back from Switzerland to see you. God,
stick to your story. I'll take you, but let's go
over think your story that your originally told them, and
we'll go over and see them. So went over the
road and they were outside their office door and get

(01:34:31):
him out of here. He said, clothes pick They told
me what was clothes pikes? So I I was just
about to go up and thumping before I left, and
Peter said, I want to test him. You're not testing
at the studio waves the loping stalk in the industry
and I tested eight hundred guys already and Peter said, well,

(01:34:55):
I'll test him at your place. He said, do you
want to? Because I had to be nic to the
director because Peter was, you know, with the Bond people
ever since they started, and but he hadn't directed one yet.
He'd edited and done things like that. But meanwhile, yeah, okay.

(01:35:16):
So they got a crew and I started testing me
at Peter's place and they were sending me to a
voice coach who was coming out when I went in
with Harold Wilson, the British Prime Minister. He's had voice
lessons the top of England. Couldn't understand him. He had
this copy the middle of England accent, and so I said,

(01:35:41):
Geeai'd be quiet. She was a real quaky voice teacher
and just lay down on the floor and he laid
me on the floor, put in my stomach and set
that breathe. You got to throw up in the stomach there,
and then she started to get rid of my accent.
And then they they had to change my walk because

(01:36:02):
I used to walk like cowboys as I decide, and
you had you can't do that in sidermoscope. So they
changed my walk, they changed my talk, and finally the
United Artists, who were distributors of the Bond film, wanted
to see me do a fight scene. And Harry I

(01:36:25):
remember him saying, he's Australian. All Australians can fight, and
he said, no, we want to see him. So they
got about eight stuntman and line them up and they're
all going to come at me one at a time.
And I was supposed to, you know, duck their punches
and whatever. Well, the first guy had any venient rope
fights in my life, so I hit him my chair

(01:36:47):
and he went down. The name was Yuri Geller. He's
a Russian wrestler, and I said, oh my god, you
gotta kill me. And then Harry Saltzman pushed me up
against the wall and he said, we're going with you.
Tell anybody and the deals off and get out of
town and we'll then call me and let me know
where you are and I'll call you to come back

(01:37:09):
to the press conference. Okay. So I went back to Paris,
where i'd been living, and I was with six of
my mates. I'd been away four months and they said,
well the hell you been, we'll be looking for you.
And I said I was, didn't Blendon doing what? Testing
for a film? What film? Bond film? They said, did

(01:37:31):
you get it? And I said yeah, and I will laugh.
I didn't believe me I was. And then I went
off to the south of France and I called learned
her and and she came there. I got I got
her ticket and she was on her way down and
they called me, get your ass back to London. We're

(01:37:52):
doing the press conference tonight, oh dear. And so I
met Belinda at the airport. I told her to come back.
I couldn't come back so busy after that, but I
I went the press conference and they proved on me, obviously,

(01:38:12):
and then we started rehearsing and cheating. We never heard
of a film taking that long is year, But well,
I said, fun in Switzerland. And I got sick of
being up on this mountain after about three weeks, and

(01:38:33):
I said to Harry, I said I don't want to
be up on this mountain anymore, and he said, what
do you mean. I said, well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
Have it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
I've been every restaurant days. It's time. I've been with
every girl on the phone and I've done it allful.
And he said, well, how about if we led you
a helicopter night and you can go into Missouri Court,
Giva or squorking want. I had, fine, we'll do that
for a while. So they browned me a helicopter at night.

(01:39:05):
And I didn't fly it, of course, as the pilot
didn't hand me that where at one stage and that
was going sideway and he kept it back. That had
clue out a fly helicopter. But meanwhile we did our
six months up there. Then we went to Portugal, did
six weeks to Portugal and a couple of weeks at

(01:39:28):
Pinewood Studios. A silly thing happened the Cougar Ford Cougar
people gave me a Cougar brand new, but left at Pinewood,
and Richard Harris had a big roll voice. You know,
the people what they want and the only way where
they want us to pay taxes on. And I said,

(01:39:51):
I don't want to pay tax on. The taxes move
cost as much as the characoss And I said, well
it's a you've got to pay the taxes. I to
what you mean as well as it exists. I said, well,
some people died to burn them, because so Richard and
I put packed that towers in the middle of a

(01:40:12):
lot of fine wood. They set them on fire. Mine
had about ten miles of us.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Why would people burn them? What was the purpose of that?

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Just to know they don't exist, they don't exist. There's
no tax.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Well, I guess that's one way to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Yeah, well that's what they told me to do. Pay
the tax or burn it. And so that ended up there,
and then they loaned me have asked spot. But then
my Triumph and the Norton gave me a motorcycle. So
I used to ride the motorcycle to work and then

(01:40:54):
they had to get me off those so they they
lent me and asked the Martin, I don't ride the
motorcycle because of insurance. Oh yeah. There was a lot
of stuff going on during that film. But then at
the end of the day I ran into this guy
rowand O'Reilly. He glaunched all the English puppets, the Beatles

(01:41:16):
of Stones who you know his name them? And he
had radio Caroline. He had the boat in the harbor.
It was in international waters, and he could play music
from there, and the English I mean had one hour
of pop music on Sunday night or Saturday night on

(01:41:36):
the BBC. That was all pop music the English were
getting at the time. And then in started this radio
Caroline and with these beetles and groups of fantastic and
he got really wealthy doing that, and so he was

(01:41:57):
the important in the business. And he came up to
me and said who he was, and you'd like to
manage me? And I said, well, I'm the contract to
the boss people. He said, no, you're not. You've signed
a letter of intent to sign the contract, but you

(01:42:18):
have not seen the contract. So because I was still
making up the contract and a letter of intent to
someone not being an active before and not knowing what's
in the contract would win the case. So I believed
him and I wouldn't sign the contract. And they put

(01:42:38):
a million dollars in cash on the table, thinking that
that's anything understand and it was hard to walk away
from but I did. And a million dollars in those
days of purse was five thousand dollars much a million was.
And then I said, why am I going to work?
I can't work. Anyone to run because you go to

(01:43:00):
Europe as a guy. The Queenees were doing wets and
he's making two and fifty grand movie. So I believe him,
and I went off to hear every movie. I got
on Salser and brought me call up and telling my
mind the contract to them and they won't movie. Now

(01:43:20):
I was getting thrown off every movie. I finally went both.
I didn't get a million, and I and he had
the money I saved up from the bond. Soon that
was ten thousand dollars. Of them they get like fifty million.
Now I got ten grands. And then I heard that

(01:43:41):
the English were getting kicked down a bolder and there's
a lot of cheap boats down there. And this guy
when prime became Prime Minister, that told him to get
out a lot of them. We're just trying to sell
it about a sound sailor more back to England. So

(01:44:03):
I went down there. I got this boat that was
worth probably twenty or thirty grands for a time. It
was a Canamran, thirty four foot canamaran that was I'd
never sailed my life. He gave me one lesson in
the harbor. The guy I bought Scotland and then he
left town and the next day I fell a water.

(01:44:28):
Unfortunately I had prevailing win. I still remember the fifty
six degrees of my tempest. I s went right down
to harbor. I had to stop it. I was turned
turning it around and round. That's how I was going everywhere.
This guy came out and helped me, but I got

(01:44:48):
caught in a storm. Later on, her life was pretty exciting.
I had a goal with me who ended up marrying
because she got pregnant and her brother told me that
she's got to be a voice of fortune. But the
kid won't get any of the money unless he was

(01:45:09):
born in marriage. So that's why we got married. And
that was my first wife. And the girl's name is Melanie.
She's the number one relator in New York. So, you know,
it's like everything I've done in life, I didn't have

(01:45:32):
any training for. You know, I knew more of that
cars than those mechanics did when I was fifteenth because
my uncle used to put me on his knee from
about three years old, and I'd go to a go
out just after school and watch the mechanics work. And
I thought that was going to be my life until
they needed a sales manager, and the fact that I

(01:45:56):
was a mechanic, I could drive the car and tell
what it needs, fixing them that much it's going to cost.
And that was the most valuable guy in a dealership.
Was at a used car sales manager. So I got
that job. And then, oh, that's right. I was at
a dance and this guy was in front of me

(01:46:18):
going up the stairs and he kicked back at me,
and I grabbed him by the leg and pulled him down,
and the guy behind me said, you'll want my size,
and I whacked him and he went down that stand
backwards that it was a cop. He pulled out of
his bad and so they took me into camber jail,

(01:46:39):
didn't charge me, and they just locked me up and
came in three of them, coming with his sticks and
just touched me on the stomach and I pretended it
hurt and it didn't hurt, and didn't leave him mart
But eventually you get nauset and that hurts.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
They let me go the next day, no charges. But
when I went back to the dance, Now, but you
dance with me, that's the glad believement, you know. So
I went up to the band and said, I want
to be in your band. They said, what do you play?
I said, I said, what do you need? They looked

(01:47:20):
at each other and it's like, I'm nuts, Well, we
don't need anything. We're fine. As I've gone out of
the door, electric bassis had just come in and they
want of them said yell a two Vadia to play
an electric bass. And I overheard it and I went
to the guitar shop because I didn't have electric bassis
austraight at the time, and they taught me how to

(01:47:43):
play bass on guitar, and then I got an electrician
to make a bass amp and I went back to
him about six weeks later. I said I can play
the bass now, and they said, oh, he's it's not
the case again. And I showed him I could play
and the key had just moved up and down the
thread board and they said, okay, we can use you.

(01:48:06):
And they wanted the ample me and the guitar player.
He was the amp, and so I started playing in
the band and they had a long story short. I
played for about six months and then I broke away
from took a couple of the guys with me. The
start of my arm band that's when I I had

(01:48:28):
plenty of money. Then I met Belinda. It was started
meeting different people. And then.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Excuse me, I'm sorry, but why were you Why you
were at the deal in the cars and you were
the used car dealer. Is that when a talent agent
saw you and and said you should be a male model?
Was that around the same time?

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
That was not that was in Australia until when I
got to London.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Oh, this is when you got to like this.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
Okay, yeah, this happened in London. I was selling used
cars out eventually, and then to this guy who I
used to drink was at the Overseas Business Club, like
to steal these women off me all the time. I
didn't know he didn't like me, actild me. You know
we used to drink deal He said, George, and leave her.

(01:49:20):
I say, you fanciers at me, sadies bent stealer at
the pipe plane. Go in and place apply my job
on Monday, but don't go before. I said, okay, Errol
Earl's Forbes and I went in there and I I said,
I'm here looking. I wanted to get el Forbes's job,

(01:49:41):
and I said, oh, which is my way? Else is
there erl sold a bunch of cars and kept the
money and run off to Europe. And I didn't know that.
And next thing, I got five cops in the office
with me and they were asked me all about Errol.
They're calling Australia. I can up my stories. And finally

(01:50:03):
they realized that I was innocent, and the sales manager said, yeah,
you can have his job. After the coups left, and
the sales manager was a drunk. He'd go to the
public at lunchtime, I'd come back. I was running the
place and oh I had. It was in park Lay

(01:50:25):
Main Streets, London, and one day Elizabeth Taylor came in
sat to look at the car, and she hardly spoke,
but she was just looking. And then Richard Burton came
in fifteen I gotta buy a car. Drab the borro
arm dragged her out. So I was living a Dorchester Hotel,

(01:50:49):
which is a few doors down, and there was the
same place to work. But then this photographer came in
and he said, uh, I'll buy this car if you
let me take pictures of you. And I thought he
was gay, So I sent the Linda alone. And then

(01:51:10):
the next day comes back and he says, no, you
you they're looking for rugged guys because the model's all
pretty boys before me before this time, and now they've
gone for rugged guys to take these pictures down to
this agency. After he took him and gave me a

(01:51:32):
bunch and I Scott his agency and on the street,
I went down there and I waited my whole lunch
out for him to see me and see me. So yeah,
I walked down and there was a guy doing pictures
with Richard Aviadot, one of the best photographers of the world,
and he's holding the babies up well. I was photographing

(01:51:54):
me like all these different sweaters, and the babies were
paying on him and he said, I can't do this
and walked off the job and so at it on
came up to the agency, was my pictures all over
the floor, looking for another model because you had to
go back to New York that night, and he said,
give me this guy. They didn't know all I was

(01:52:17):
with the photographer. He stamp on the back of him
and they rang him and they've got me. They said
when can you get there? And I said about five o'clock.
I said, Tyler Staber, you got to get there now,
I said, okay, and I went there and I told
these babies, now piano leaves. I put up with it,

(01:52:38):
and next thing I know, about three months later, these
pictures come out and everybody wants to know who worked
with the best photographer in the world. And I was
booked night and day from that day on until I

(01:52:59):
you know, right out. You know, I had to go
to Paris to work that I've done every ad in London,
and I was working in Germany too, because they banned
model agencies in Germany because turned into all out, so they
banned all together, said anyone that looked German, which I
apparently did they wrench you from Paris of London or

(01:53:22):
whatever to German. He did the photograph. So that was
my life and having an Australian accent. I didn't do
any commercials on where I spoke. I did commercial I
was just walking around with a big box before I
comes in, it down and all that sort of stuff.
But I hadn't spoken in front of the camera. And

(01:53:46):
I went back to London one day to see a
friend of mine who wanted to be an actor, and
he says, you got to help me out. I said, why,
He said, I've got a date with the biggest agent
in London and my girlfriends come back into town and
I can't go. I don't want to leave us standing

(01:54:06):
on the corner. I said, okay, I'll do it. And
the name was Maggie Abbott, which CMA was called in
I think it's I seem now. And she was waiting
on the corner of Barne Street on other street, and
I said, I'm Ken's friend, and he couldn't come until
I've come to help you out. Well, we better go

(01:54:29):
because I'm going to take you to a movie the
screening room where she was. And we go to the
screening room, the Beatles and stuff you know in there
that's no movies. And I didn't see the movie. I
just stared at all these famous people. And then and

(01:54:50):
this is hard to believe, but Maggie. I took Maggie home.
I didn't see her again. I went back to Paris.
But I that I was with these friends in Paris,
not the night that they I told him I did
the Bond thing. But I was with these same people

(01:55:11):
I said before Bond. I picked up this girl and
I went home with her, and the phone was ringing.
You know they had phone line. Thursday didn't have cell
phones and I she said, it's too I said, how
could that be that we those up with you? And

(01:55:31):
it was Maggie Eatt. She rang my flatmate and he said,
I went to this restaurant. She rang the restaurant. The
matro d told her I went out with this girl.
You found a number and called me. Now I think
I think that was important. She says, you got to
get back to London. I think you're right for a
role that they're having trouble finding somewhere for. I said, okay,

(01:55:55):
and I forgot about it. And about a month later
I went back to London and I saw my friend
what Maggie watch your word?

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
Yeah, yeah, girls call her back. Let's go see it.
Because you want to be a actor. So I went
to see her. She waited way down, she said, and
then she said, I said, well, why do you think
i'd make a good actor? He said, well, you've got

(01:56:25):
what they're looking for. I said, what's that? She said, arrogance?
So you're so sure of yourself and so she said,
I said what's the role. She said, James Bond. I
couldn't believe it, and she gave me the address to

(01:56:46):
go see him after she called her, and I told him,
I told you that I told all this bullshit story
about working in places I thought they could to check out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
But is it true that you you went and got
the same suit that Sean Connery wore in the film?

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Yes, I did. Hair I did. I got it by
a fluke because one he didn't like, and he left
it there. My arms were about it longer than his.
The only had to do was put the sleeves down
on it, and and I wore that in there. That's hell.

(01:57:27):
I wanted it, and I got all got my haircut
where he got his haircut. It was right down the
road from the city's dance Kurt the barber, and apparently
Kurt was Buckley, was in mail. After I got the job.
Kurt told me, he said, you know what, I was
cutting Keby Barkley's hair after I finished yours, and you

(01:57:51):
get me your coat on and leaving, and Covey said
to me, that guy make a good jobs. And Covey
did remember that it was me. I had to remind him.
But it was That's how it all happened.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I mean, it's an incredible story and and and here's
the thing. On Her Majesty Secret Service, the film that
you were in, uh nowadays is regarded as a top
five Bond film. And if you look at some websites,
they have it listed number one or number two. It's
either on Her Majesty's Secret Service or Goldfinger. How do
you feel about that? After all these years, people really
have now grown in affinity and fondness for for the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
Well, you know my egos, so they should. But the
other part of me I've made because you know, Hill
and cutry knew more about acting than I ever would.
And Roger Moore was up for when I was up
for it, he was waving to me, pretty I'm around

(01:58:56):
his face and hitty face. What he's only is the
and all the other guys. I just did the best
I could. I knew, you know, a little bit about acting,
but I went to Charles Conrad at the Acting School
for twenty years after I did The Moon One, and

(01:59:18):
here was the best teacher in the world. He used
to put I mean he and she on the script,
so you never had any idea who wrote what was
a battle of the character. But we got to the
point where we could pick up the writer's vibe, and
it took me about three or four years before I

(01:59:39):
could do that. I was in his B class three
or four years, and one day he gave me a
script for a girl and I started reading and behaving
like one. He said, now you can go into my
A class.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Oh wow. So and you took acting lessons after landing
at that time the biggest role in all of Hollywood.
You do on Her Majesty Secret Service, and then you
go on to continue acting. Let me ask you, though,
so there's this long kind of I don't know rumor
or people just assume that you aren't asked back to
the Bond franchise, but you actually turned it down, correct, Yes,

(02:00:13):
And that was when you talked about the million dollars
and all that stuff. You turned it down, but then
went on to still you're acting to this day. Was
there anything from the Bond experience that you look at
now with all the knowledge that you've gained throughout the
years and the twenty years of acting classes. Do you
look at your performance now and say, man, if I
could have gone back and had I known now what

(02:00:34):
I'd know, I could have played this role differently. Are
you satisfied with how the film came out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
No sign I was at deer how the actor I
am now, but I could you know, I'm not looking
for work by the way, guys, I'm I'm not the
sort of guy that wants to get out episode in
the morning to tip it get it to work. Lists

(02:01:00):
of Potts was sensational, you know, we could really get
out there. But on the other hand, I you know,
I was quite pleased in my performance. There was nothing.
You know, I wasn't intimidated by camera being a model

(02:01:20):
for me, and I wasn't afraid to stand in front
of a camera, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Oh absolutely, I mean I think that's the thing that
some actors have the hardest time with, especially going from
stage to screen, which I know you were a model before,
but when they get on the screen, that camera changes
their whole dynamic and their eye line.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
Yeah, well it didn't change me, right right, Yeah, I
mean you're used to it. I just did my thaying.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
The looking though back at it again on Her Majesty.
Secret Services is widely regarded as one of the best
Bond movies of the twenty five that they've done, and
this last one that came out No Time to Die
pays several illusions and tributes to that film, which I'm
sure you've heard around now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:08):
Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
Did you like it?

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
Parts of it?

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
Parts of it?

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
Yeah, it was it didn't seem to have any rhythm.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
It was a little on the long side. Uhuh, it
was a little long, right, It felt yeah, a long shot.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
The kind of cases were unbelievable. It was. That's just
my opinion. You know, some people I've met, but I
loved it. It's it's one of those things, you know.
He just I wouldn't have done it like that, right,
And I think they yeah, I think you know, they

(02:02:49):
had to go and love things and he gets killed
the end. But that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Right right now, when you though, obviously people know you
from James Bond, but you know, I said, you have
sixty five acting credits to your name just on IMDb alone.
What is your looking at your career now? What has
been the role that you've enjoyed the most? Is it
James Bond or is it something else that you've played?

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
Now, it was James Bond. They had the budget at
the time. Everybody was an expert at what they did, and.

Speaker 4 (02:03:31):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
You know, when I look back on life, who was
my best experienced push one.

Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
Right right out of the gate and the time. I've
always found your story so incredible. Is your first movie
was the biggest movie in production at the time. I mean,
there was nothing bigger than On Her Magic.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
See No, it took nine months to shoot.

Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
Yeah, it's incredible. It's incredible that and the film is
it's so damn good. Like it's such a great made
Bond film. And here's the thing. I think everybody you
can like or a Bond film, even if it's not
very good. Your film is excellent and it's really an
upper echelon of the Bond movies themselves. I know you

(02:04:16):
said that was your favorite role out of your career,
but you're still acting to this day. Correct.

Speaker 7 (02:04:22):
Yeah, sometimes I do a good acting and it's not
it's not hard to me now. I mean, you know,
I've spent twenty years in an active clubs.

Speaker 4 (02:04:36):
It's uh.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
I loved it. That's why I did it because.

Speaker 7 (02:04:42):
Told us nothing about the role we're playing, and it
just gets him her on the street and you go
for it and somehow or other you change your personally
whatever is coming up.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
The other side while.

Speaker 7 (02:04:57):
See what have I do that? And that's what I
actually go all about being.

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
For yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:05:08):
Right right and to find a way to channel that
like you've done throughout your career. It's really impressive. Mister Lazenby.
I've already got over on the time that we agreed upon.
You can find George Laesby on all social media Twitter, Instagram,
Facebook at, George Lazenby Official website, George Lasenbeeofficial dot com. Sorry,
it's been an honor and a privilege to talk to
you today, and your legacy will be forever remembered and

(02:05:31):
your bond will always be regarded as one of the
best of all time. Thank you so much for your
time today.

Speaker 1 (02:05:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
Okay, you heard from the man himself, George Lasenby. He
kind of gave us a lot of the background of
the movie, his love story, which kind of mirrors the
love story in this movie in some ways. But there's
a couple of trivia effects that I want to bring up.
There's really only three that I like, Okay, So one

(02:06:00):
of them is that we have All the Time in
the World by Louis Armstrong, last song he ever recorded.
It's true he died a couple of years after.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
Maronically does not have all the time in the world.
You are out of time. Last song I'll ever do.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
The other one is Lazenbe had an idea on the
set where he said, when he Bond skis off the cliff, right,
he was like, it would be cool if we ski
off a c when he's skiing, that is, before he
starts killing people with that ski, which, by the way,
that was actually a pretty cool, awesome moment.

Speaker 4 (02:06:35):
The man with the Golden ski.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
Yeah, he suggested, what if Bond skis off the ledge
and it looks like all hope is lost and then
he opens a parachute up and it's like Donna, Donna,
Da d This was Lazenby's idea. Well, the filmmakers they
didn't have the resource to pull it off at the time,
but then they ended up using it for The Spy
Who Loved Me a few years later, which is an

(02:06:58):
iconic Bond moment where he skis off the ledge and
opens the Union Jack parachute. Pretty amazing if you ask me.

Speaker 4 (02:07:07):
Be happy about that they actually used the idea.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
You know what, it's mixed reviews. You know, it depends
on who you talk to? Okay, two more things. Sean
Connery later said after he saw this movie he would
have much preferred to do On Her Majesty's Secret Service
then You Only Live Twice. He was like, I would
have loved to do that movie instead of doing You

(02:07:31):
Only Live Twice. I wish they would have done that
one next maybe he would have stayed around, because Sean
was asking for one point two million dollars to come
back for On Her Majesty's Secret Service, A lot of money,
one point twenty five, I believe, So he was asking
for some big money here, uh, the last one and
this one was just for you. According to Lasenbie, he

(02:07:53):
and a crew member played a prank on Ruby during
the movie This woman you love so much, the Chicken Woman.

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
I do Chicken Woman.

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
So you know we talked about she draws the number
on her leg. So a crew member warmed a sausage.
You already know where this is going, and they put
it under bonds kilt. And so when when when Ruby
puts her hand under the kilt, she is they want

(02:08:24):
to know how she's going to react when she feels this.

Speaker 4 (02:08:27):
She's going to accidentally reach up the kilt and feel
the warm sausage, sausage up against Lasenbee's.

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
Leg right, and then she like no, sells it doesn't
even react right. Professions not our first kilt, not our
first kilt. Feel. So those are some of your trivia nuggets.

Speaker 4 (02:08:46):
Oh what a time, Oh what a time to work
in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Few more categories here. If you had one question for
a character, what would it be?

Speaker 1 (02:08:56):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:08:57):
If I was like interviewing, yes, a character, you fictional character,
I would ask Bond what does love mean to you? What?
What does marriage mean to you? Sir?

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Yeah? I would ask him if the kilt was necessary,
like was it necessary for your scottishness? Or could you
like gone without it? Because it does seem a little
awkward to see him in the in the kilt. It's
a little awkward, you know what.

Speaker 4 (02:09:22):
I think I read somewhere that people thought that on
the crew they didn't care for Laza b and they
kind of dressed him like a fool.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
Sometimes look other than the kilt, and the leader, other
than the kilt, in the leisure suit when he's at
the casino. His fits are kind of killer.

Speaker 4 (02:09:40):
In this movie, he looks at what he's been Yeah,
that Bond, but then they kind of mess did they
give him a beanie?

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
To give him a beanie?

Speaker 4 (02:09:48):
What he's got to go?

Speaker 5 (02:09:49):
Ski?

Speaker 4 (02:09:49):
Yea, what do you put on the beanie? I'm like, oh,
you're cold? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:54):
It was illuci The thing worse that they.

Speaker 4 (02:09:55):
Put like the big you know, puzzball on top, and.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
I would have preferred it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
For you to look in with a scarf and like
Mittens all right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:04):
The next one, the I'm gonna go home and sleep
with my wife Award for the MVP of the movie. Ironically,
he didn't get to do that the character Bond.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
But i VP is the wife.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
The MVP is Diana Rick, right, Teresa de Vicimso is
the MVP of this fad. She's the best one, uh
to say.

Speaker 4 (02:10:22):
He didn't wait till New Year's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
It's a really good thing sequel, prequel.

Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
Rest of that we take from it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Never wait. When you realize you want to spend the
rest of your life with someone, you want the rest
of your life to start as soon as possible. Where's
that movie from Harry Mitt sal Thank you, Harry Metsell,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:10:37):
Oh Billy Crystal is James Bond? Ryan Careful, be careful,
Big Ryan.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
Sequel prequel at Presty's TV. What would be the best
way to continue the story? I want se mini series.
I would like on her Masage Secret Service to be
broken up into a mini series where she does die.
But we she dies like halfway through the series, and
then we get the finge tor.

Speaker 4 (02:11:02):
Ooh John Wick, Yeah, nice?

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
All right?

Speaker 4 (02:11:07):
Now this war it's a sequel. It's a sequel series
where she does die. That's the maybe, that's the beginning.

Speaker 1 (02:11:14):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (02:11:14):
That's how it starts. James Bond's wedding, I like you guys,
and he's like, oh, she's just arrested, she's just rustled,
and then he looks at the camera and says, but
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
I threw this one in here last night as I
was watching this movie because it inspired a new category.
So I didn't tell you about this one. So it's okay,
I like it, you don't know it, okay. So this
is the Captain Jack Sparrow Career Achievement Award for the
character who stumbles their way throughout their throughout the movie
and you wonder are they really good at what they do?

(02:11:48):
To me? This is for the blonde guy, the guy
who climbs the mountain. Is he really good at his
job because he helps Bond a few times. He's supposed
to be Bond's like counterpart, you know, and helping him
out right, But he's really bad at going under cover.

(02:12:09):
And then when they discover him climbing up the mountain
and they shoot at him, they miss him there, so
it was okay to kill him at that moment. But
then they say, we're going to usher you down the
mountain and we'll return your stuff to you later. And
then Bond sees him hanging upside down dead now dead
and frozen. Yeah, that was a dummy, right, I hope.

Speaker 4 (02:12:34):
So it looked like a crappy job.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
It looked like a dummy. But I don't think that
guy was good at his job. He got caught.

Speaker 4 (02:12:42):
No, it's just like he's reading Playboy when he's on
the clock. It's just not good. It's just not good.

Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
Do you have somebody stuck out to you, like, is
this guy really good at his job other than George Lad?

Speaker 4 (02:12:51):
I didn't, Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think Blowfield. Blowfield
was up to snuff on this Weddy.

Speaker 8 (02:12:59):
Kind of ideas, kind of like you're gonna like we're
gonna mess with Cereal and he's got like, you know,
as the girls that like he's hoping that they'll all
remember to turn on the tape recorder at midnight, even
when that was his.

Speaker 4 (02:13:12):
Plan, Like at midnight you have to listen to this.
I'm like, I'm asleep by nine thirty. I have just
said an alarm. It's not like you're Yeah, then we're
gonna go out and do it. And what if we
don't and we're not, We're the ladies are not gonna
be able to be incognito. Yeah, they definitely stand out.
So and then he doesn't recognize Bond for the first

(02:13:32):
like three weeks that he's there.

Speaker 9 (02:13:34):
It's it's the same guy. And he doesn't even shoot
him shoot the gun. He's not all pleasants, so I
think he, uh, he kind of was on sleepwalk.

Speaker 2 (02:13:46):
Nice one. I agree. Well, that's about to wrap up
our time for this week's Pick six. Before we reveal
if we would recommend this movie, I'm gonna rattle off
my twenty five list. This is my list of the
Bonds as I have them ranked. Yes, okay, good, so
you're ready for it. I'm gonna go from twenty five

(02:14:07):
to one in the book. It's in the book. The book.
This list is in the book Bonje.

Speaker 4 (02:14:11):
Where can we find There's the book right there. Bon
James Bond available now on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (02:14:15):
Amazon Shaken not start here we go. This is my ranking.
I'm going to give you the ranking of the bond
films and then of my bonds. This is according to
my book. Okay twenty five, Licensed to Kill twenty four,
Living Daylights twenty three, Octopussy twenty two, Quantum of Solace
twenty one, Moonraker twenty of You to a Kill nineteen,

(02:14:38):
The World Is Not Enough eighteen, The Man with the
Golden Gun seventeen, Specter sixteen, Tomorrow Never Dies fifteen, Diamonds
Are Forever fourteen, Die Another Day thirteen, Thunderball twelve from
Russia with Love eleven for your oh excuse me, you
only live twice. And then here's my top ten for
your eyes only. Roger Moore, Live and Let Diet number nine,

(02:15:01):
Roger Moore on Her Majesty's Secret Service, number eight with
Lazenbe number seven, No Time to Die with Daniel Craig,
number six, GoldenEye with Pierce Brosnan, Number five, The Spy
Who Loved Me with Roger Moore, Number four Skyfall Daniel Craig,
number three, Doctor No Sean Connery. Number two is Goldfinger

(02:15:26):
with Sean Connery, and number one is Casino Royal. It's
the best James Bond movie. And then my list of
Bonds in order from one to six, Sean Connery is
the best. Then Daniel Craig, Roger Moore, Pierce Brosnan, George Lazenbe,
Timothy Dalton third TD TD did not get the job done.

Speaker 4 (02:15:47):
Jeff, That's when I checked out.

Speaker 2 (02:15:49):
Would you recommend this movie?

Speaker 4 (02:15:53):
Uh, for the history if you're interested in the Bond
series as a as like you know, part of film history. Yes,
as a movie by itself, it wasn't for me. I
don't see myself watching this again anytime soon. So I
think for me, it's an interesting moment in time, but

(02:16:15):
not a great movie.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
It's it's one of my favorite Bonds, just for the
for the swings that they took. It is too long,
even though I put in my top ten it is it's.

Speaker 4 (02:16:32):
Too long, over two hours, it's too twenty. It's twenty
It's a long movie.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
Whereas Bond films were you know, I feel like if
you cut twenty minutes out of this movie twenty five
maybe thirty minutes, you're looking at a lot better film.
But as you as you said, as you said, this
movie is widely regarded as one of the best Bond
movies by critics nowadays, and Steven's Soderbergh, as you talked about,

(02:17:01):
loves this movie. Christopher Nolan says it's his favorite James
Bond movie. There's a lot of elements of this that
is good and is very i'd say part and parcel
with the books, like very much the Bond in the books,
then the Bond that we know that Sean Connery kind
of helped develop, and then the humor of Roger Moore,

(02:17:24):
the over the top action of Pierce Brosnan, or the
coldness of a Timothy Dalton, Like this isn't very the
beats of Bond in this match up right. And I'm
telling you, if you ever get into the Craig series
of movies, you'll go, oh, I see, I see the
connective tissue here of those of those movies with on

(02:17:45):
Her Magicy Secret Service. So it's one of my favorites.
But it is the first pick that is not given
a green light. I liked Edwood, you liked The Phantom. Now, Jeff,
have you put into thought of what's next for us?

Speaker 4 (02:18:03):
I have, and it was definitely inspired. It was definitely
a reactionary choice to watching this as I was watching
Lazy and b Do. What I thought at first was
a bad Carry Grant impression. It made. This is not
a good sign when you're starting to watch a movie.
When you think about a movie you like more and
you wish you were watching that one and the movie

(02:18:26):
I wanted to watch, which kind of feels like Bond,
but it's ten years before this movie. It is Carry
Grant Alfred Hitchcock's north By Northwest. Yes, this is a
wrong man kind of movie, so it's a little different
than Bond, but it's definitely a reactionary choice. So Brett
has not seen north By Northwest. Now we'll see.

Speaker 2 (02:18:51):
We're going to see I'm excited that's going to be
next on tick six.

Speaker 4 (02:18:55):
And we're going from the permission to not like it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
We're going from the nineties to the sixties, the fifties.
We're all out of the map and I'm excited to watch.

Speaker 4 (02:19:05):
You thought we were going to do eighties movies friends,
and we haven't done one.

Speaker 2 (02:19:08):
I haven't done one.

Speaker 4 (02:19:09):
I haven't done one yet.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
We're definitely gonna do so, I haven't done one yet.

Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
We'll go. I've got eight all right.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
Well that is the general Jeff Smith Jeff Smith Movie Guide.

Speaker 4 (02:19:19):
Yeah, that stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:19:21):
At Brad Gilmore Brad Gilmore dot net which still bothers me.

Speaker 4 (02:19:26):
But get the book.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
Get the book Bond James Bond by Brad Gilmour and
Mike Kalanowski, exploring the shaken and start history of Ian Flemings.
Double O seven available in print thanks to our good
friends at Mango Publishing. More books on the way and
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