Ready to Rumble (2000) [Brad Pic]

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh Sex. Today, we are talking Ready to Rumble from
the year two thousand, when die hard wrestling fans Gordy
Boggs played by David Arquette and Sean Dawkins played by
Scott Cohn witness their hero WCW champion Jimmy King played
by Oliver Platt, get dethroned and humiliated by a rival

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and a corrupt promoter. They make it their mission to
help him reclaim his glory. With big dreams, little experience,
and hearts full of loyalty, the two friends embark on
a wild, over the top journey through the world of
professional wrestling, full of body slams, betrayals, and a bizarre
training montage featuring real life WCW stars like Goldberg, Diamond, Dallas,

(00:43):
Page Booker t and Sting. Ready to Rumble is a
chaotic love letter to the spectacle of sports entertainment, packed
with slapstick comedy, underdog charm, and a ring side absurdity.
This is two thousands Ready to Rumble. H when it's

(01:04):
not chose Cory.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I didn't know youse, folks, fan, it are you fluent?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I feel fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Gordie and Sean had dead end jobs. People always said
I was a dreamer, an idiot and a waste of life,
and I will never amount to anything. Time, No luck
with the ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Grant me.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Let's go out again. We'll talk about me and you.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
You're in and no one to look up to. Your
sister shot your first pert today.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Nice Gammy, but.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
At least they had a hero.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Jimmy King is the greatest wrestler of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
France Sling's fake Freshlings not sucks Jimmy King, Oh my god,
a poor folks massacre. No one kids about this? What

(02:09):
would that be wrong? So jump felling? They could always
like this.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Swell now these dreamers he my asso ship.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
We're on a quest.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Fine King.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Will go to any lace that was great and do
whatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We got a friend.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're gonna get you a trainer.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Everybody knows wrestling's fake to put their team.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Don't feel thank back on his throne any.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Edy, God, he's steel cage still.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Done? Ray, We are.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Sure ready to rumble. Pack six. Hello everybody, and welcome
to the Pick six podcast. I'm your host, Brad Gilmour
as always, joined by the General Jeff Smith. Jeff, how

(03:29):
are we well? How are you I'm doing great man. Look,
today is a great day. Today is a great day
because the whole idea of this podcast is to expose
the other to movies that might be guilty pleasures, movies
that might have gotten a lot of a lot of spins,
as the kids say in the VHS tape decks and
things of that nature, the ones that perhaps you were

(03:52):
one day too long your rental and you got it
to that blockbuster right after the time, right after the time,
because you wanted that one more watch of it, and
you weren't kind, you did not rewind. That's what these
movies are all about. And there was a we we
did so far this is I'm halfway through now my
picks because I did The Phantom, you did ed Wood,

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and then I did On Her Magicy Secret Service, and
then you decided to counter with north By Northwest, which
I like, how we're doing this chess game here with
one another. And then I said, you know what you
want a cinematic classic, Well, too bad, Too bad, because
we're going to go into the world of pro wrestling
with Range Ready to Rumble. And it's our first movie

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in the two thousands, and it's actually in the year
two thousand and Boy did it feel like the year
two thousand?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I got that written down by Boy, Yes, I think
my own worst did of me by the litt Kicks
in I'm like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So there's several thoughts obviously we're going to get into
in this movie. We have our categories that will do.
But I'm going to start just kind of with a
little bit of a soliloquy on where we were in
the world in the year two thousand and why this
movie got made. Because there's been several movies about wrestling
or wrestlers, especially in the last several years. You just

(05:22):
had a movie come out a couple months ago, Queen
of the Ring, which was really really good. You have
The Wrestler, Darren Aronofsky's classic The Wrestler, And you have
several other films and television projects that come to mind,
would like Glow and Heels, Oh, a lot of things.
This one, I would say, is not at that cinematic
achievement of a real gritty pro wrestling story. Wasn't there

(05:45):
a Henry Winkler movie where he was a wrestler back
in the day.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
If not, I'm gonna write that down because I even
present day Henry Winkler would be at least the manager,
at least.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
The soal, oh, we're gonna talk about sal I have
a lot of great stuff on sal Vandini.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
So you're saying this movie does not pull the curtain
back as much as some of the other wrestling media
out there as far as the story or the presentation
of professional wrestling.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I would say that's accurate. I would say that it
one of the problems with the movie, and there's a few.
But let me start by saying I love this movie. Yes,
I love this movie.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
We can love and also see the flaws much like
children exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes, that's exactly what I thought about. So yes, first off,
I love this movie. I have a lot to say
about the background of it, and we're going to get
to that right after I answer your question. I think
that it plays with it. It goes in and out
of we want to show behind the scenes, but we
also want to stay in the make believe and kind
of like balance like walk a line, because there's some
things in here that are just so ridiculous that obviously

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have no basis in the reality of pro wrestling, or
should I say the reality of wrestling, and then there's
there's also things in here that are wrestling oriented, and there's.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Some sometimes in the same scene.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Sometimes in the same scene. And there's also a few
things that I think were pulled from real life in
some ways and used in this script. And I can
see where the writers are. Writer. I don't know how
many people made a pass at this one who weren't credited.
It's written by Stephen Brill, but I can see where

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perhaps he was trying to pull from in certain regard.
You know, this was a great run for him, Steven,
because he did Ready to Rumble. But let's go actually
back up a little bit. Here's his writing credits. The
Mighty Ducks, oh D two, The Mighty Ducks, Heavyweights D three,

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The Mighty Ducks Ready to Rumble, Little Nikky mister Deed's
sex Lies and videotape and Movie forty three, which that
one I would not I think he was a director
of one of the segments.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Have you seen Movie forty three?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
It came up on Amazon the other day and I
almost sat and watched it because I know about the
legendary rat of it, but I did not watch it.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I've seen it halle Berry's isn't halle Berry?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Isn't it? A lot of people are in it.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, do you watch that movie and go, I get
why they made this?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Or is it like what did people see in this?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, there's no reason other than the directors must have
the backstory. Sorry, we're gonna go on.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
A tangent of Movie forty three is that they just
must have pestered their a list because it's the Fairly
brothers who did Dumb and Dummer and those kind of things.
They must have just pestered them forever just to show
up for a day and be silly. And maybe they
had fun on the set. It's very possible they're like,

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they're like, this is ridiculous, this is crazy. Don't what's
going to see this? And it's just got such a
huge cast that that alone was what sold it to
whoever distributed it. And now it's yeah, considered one of
the worst movies of all time. That alone, Maybe you
want to see it just for the backstory. Yeah, sometimes
the backstory is more fun.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, to give you some more backstory, are ready to rumble?
There's a few things to definitely go into. One of them, though,
this Movie's made in two thousand, coming really off the
tail end of the zenith of the nineties wrestling boom
from ninety six to about two thousand and one was
what's referred to in WWF circles as the Attitude Era,
and this was really the launch of pro wrestling in

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its biggest, most highest box office until these last couple
of years the nineties were for pro wrestling. Eighties mid
eighties was huge with whole comania, and then it kind
of lulled out in the what's known as the New Generation,
which WCW kind of wasn't doing much. They were a
third rate company. Essentially, Ted Turner owned him. They didn't

(10:04):
really get out of the superstation and the South in Atlanta, Georgia.
And then a guy named Eric Bischoff took over as
the executive producer of WCW, and he made the decision
to go head to head with the WWE for Monday
Nitro and Monday Night Row. They went head to head
at the same time every single Monday, and he did

(10:25):
a lot of things. Eric Bischoff is a very polarizing individual.
You I have no doubt that this is who Sinclair.
Titus Sinclair is based on in the movie, who is
played by our guy Joey Pants, which I'm sure we'll
talk about, but that's he did a lot of stuff.
He would go on television and give away the competitors'

(10:47):
results on TV. He would say, Hey, that show, because
Nitro was live and Raw at the time, was taped
and they'd say, hey, so before you they would come
on two minutes early because that's how much sway. Because
Ted Turner owned so he could do whatever he wanted,
so they'd come on a couple of minutes early and
just go before you change the channel, here's everything you're

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gonna see on the other show. Here are the results,
so just stay here, right. So this was coming off
the wrestling boom and WCW with the nWo, with the
Hogan defection. They had Macho Man, Ready Savage, they had
Rowdy Roddy Piper, they had Mister Perfect, they had Rick Rude.
A lot of the stars of the eighties into the
early nineties kind of went over to WCW and WWF

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at the time had the Undertaker, pretty good star Sean Michaels,
Brett Hart kind of coming up. But by the time
this movie came out, they had Triple h Mankind, the
Rock Stone, Cold, Steve Austin, and then the other names
that you'll probably know from that era of wrestling. So
there's a hot wrestling boom. So you know, Hollywood, they
gotta go, wait, what's hot right now? Pro wrestling's hot.

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Let's get let's green light, let's get this thing into production.
And you have two leads and David Arquette and Scott Cohn,
who at some times I found myself laughing out loud
and sometimes I found myself rolling my eyes. But David Arquette,
huge pro wrestling fan, continued to be a pro wrestling fan,
which I'm sure that we'll get into. But Jeff, what

(12:13):
did you think of this movie? Just your overall thoughts
at first?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, I agree with you. One of the very first
things I thought of was, oh, my gosh, two thousand.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
It's yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
The funny thing about nostalgia is you don't realize that
there are tropes when you're living in the middle of it,
and you don't think, oh, this is going to feel
very sometimes, but for the most part, you don't feel, oh,
this is going to feel so twenty twenty five and
in the year two thousand and the late nineties.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I went and saw a lot of movies in the
theater and this was one.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Obviously it's a pick six I did not go see,
but as soon as it started, it reminded me a
lot of movies like A Road Trip and those kind
of comedies from the late nineties and early two thousands,
and I appreciated the beginning where it kind of went

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into a weird fantasy sequence and I thought, oh, we're
going to do a lot of that, and we really didn't.
And then my next thought was how old are these guys?
So immediately had to google, like how old are they?
Because they should probably be teenagers.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Or they seem a little old. And our cat was
twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
His character is almost thirty doing what he's doing and
feeling and what he's feeling in this movie.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
But he's playing younger. I hope I was playing like
twenty one because he is living.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Like with his dad living tell him you need to
get your life together and get a job and be
a man. And then it felt like it was kind
of this comedy about these dudes and then wrestling kind
of I almost felt like watching it you could tell
when they the Studio bought it and made it a
WCW movie, because it would kind of switch show over

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in the vibe, like, oh, now we're this is WCW
the movie, and then they go back to but now
we're septic workers and we're making we're doing pranks on
each other on the job, and then now we're like
messing with the girl that works at the dairy queen.
And so I.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I won't say I liked it. I enjoyed it for
the vibe I enjoyed for.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
The nostalgic trip to a time I remember going to
the movies a lot. I don't think it's a good movie.
It's a fascinating movie. The fact that I have fifteen
pages of notes that I wrote while doing it with questions,
I'm so glad I have you the wrestling expert on here,
because I did. I was a wrestling fan in the eighties.

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So I appreciated seeing macho man right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Top of the line.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Great, that was great. So yeah, Cream of the Crop.
I appreciated that.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's kind of where like, Okay, I'm in and then
they kind of do it and other stuff in the movie.
I'm like, uh, oh, I don't know about this, and
then the dad who's kind of like right out of
Bill and Ted. And then they even brought the Bosco
old lady who that was like the that was what
she was creeping the crop. She was a wedding crashers,
a wedding singer and road trip. Actually she's always played

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the old lady that said inappropriate things, and there's always
some old lady that's like really intorestling that says.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I want you to kill him and bring out a soul.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
There she was, and so I appreciate it for that.
It almost felt like they didn't realize they were spoofing
the era in the middle of it, But now watching
it in twenty twenty five, it's like, oh, you're doing
like a spoof on two thousands or late nineties movies,
and then you threw in a tie in for wrestling,

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so it almost is like accidentally clever.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I did have some early like, Okay, I'd say for
the first maybe fifteen to twenty minutes of this movie, right,
I'm going, Wow, this is a lot worse than I remember,
you know, I go this kind of suck like I'm
really having I think it got to the point to
where they're driving the septic tank, Jimmy the King just

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loses for the first time ever, and boom, they crashed
the septic tank.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh and the poop and the toilet paper, the toilet paper.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
There's a there's a point where they get the they're
eating their lunch next to a leaking septic tank, you
know those things. I'm going, oh, this is a rough watch, man.
I can't believe I bit Jeff watch this movie. And
but then right after that septic tank crash where they
kind of get into the road trip, I go, oh, Okay,

(16:44):
we're kind of picking up a little bit here, like
we're picking up a little bit. And I think about
halfway through the movie, which I would agree is too
long to wait, but about halfway through the movie, I
think by the time they're rolling Jimmy the King into
the New York Arena as it was called and not
Madison Square Garden the New York Arena as the time

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they're rolling him into the back, I kind of felt
like we were in full gear and I was like,
I'm actually really enjoying now what I'm seeing. And maybe
it's because it was more pro wrestling. Once they got
into the road trip, aspect of everything. There was more
wrestling involved, and I found myself obviously liking those parts
of the movie more than the poop jokes and the
state trooper thing with his dad and the sub nuns,

(17:32):
and like the nuns were already they were forting none.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
They were forting nuns. See that's that's my point about
the tone.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It felt like it originally was going to be like
a dumb and dumber road trip movie, and then they went, Okay,
now it's wrestling, so we'll do all of our favorite
parts of the road trip movie in the first thirty
minutes and then we'll get to wrestling. I felt like
they all the road trip stuff should have been gone,
Like they didn't need to go see I guess they
did because his son had to show up at the.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
End, but they didn't need to go see as Crazy
x Y. Yeah, they didn't need, you.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Know, to find uh a freaking cherminator from American Pie
who's Internet savvy and his dad thinks he's not masculine.
I have so many notes about masculinity and like the
fixed messages this movie sends on what it is to
be a man, because it has seems to have a
message and then it just takes a septic.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Tank dump on it.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
At the very end of the movie, with the very
last thing, you're like, oh, we learned nothing. Okay, fine,
maybe it's not that kind of movie, but.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's why I felt like a parody.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It was like, we're gonna do this big message on
what it means to be a man, and then the
last thing we do is beat up.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
The clerk and make him say something terribly Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yes, I agree with a
lot of that, and and and then there also seems
to be like some just lines of dialogue that I'm like,
why are we why was this mentioned? And then never
really picked back up? And maybe I missed something. So
I was gonna ask you, Scott Cohn who actually on
the whole I like Scott con a lot in most

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of it.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know why he's friends with Arquette though, Like
I don't know what his what his move is like
our Quet seems to have.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I even wrote down a whole.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Thing about mental disorders because seems to be a little Yeah,
there's something a little off.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
He plays it like he's on the spectrum.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah yeah, I have written down for Gordy persistent delusion
that professional wrestling is real. And that's where we were
talking about how sometimes they show the behind the scenes
like they show Sinclair, like make the decision in the ring,
like here's the new ending, but then they have a
lot of things like no, it's this is the real deal.

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He has his hallucinations, so obviously that's a little something
his impulsiveness for pranks that he just can't help it
as as a like adult, his his weird takes on
intimacy yes.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Where with our good friend Rose McGowan.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Is very strange, and then just of course disassociation from reality.
After Jimmy Jimmy King loses, oh, he decides, you know what,
we're the only ones that could change this. He doesn't decide, oh,
that match sucked, like a lot of wrestling fans would like,
I'm disappointed with that outcome. I wanted it to the
other way. Nope, we are going to change our lives

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and fix this and go save this guy. It's got
to be us, the adult fans. So he's got issues.
Con I don't know why he's there. At the end
he goes all out and becomes the manager and stuff.
I think he's just kind of long for the ride.
I think he's a fan, and then looking back and
having him introduce the movie by talking to the little kids,

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which is also a weird mixed message too. They're even
kind of saying like this is for kids, and are
these adults funny that they believe in this?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
But then they take them seriously. Very schizophrenic movie.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Which is funny that we're talking about mental disorder. The
movie kind of has that vibe as well.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
The movie does have some mixed messaging. A few things
I want to ask. First off, with Scott con there's
a there's a line of dialogue where after Gordy's dad
like shakes them down at the convenience store, which also
grabs his private part uf which made no sense, and
then he was like, would you like to be on
the other side of this shakedown? And then Scott conn

(21:25):
was like, so you want me to grab your nuts?
Which I thought was a funny. That line was actually
kind of funny, but also so strange. I don't understand
what the point of like is it. It was it
that a commentary on like the guys who are always
hyper masculine or actually.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Are secretly clauseted. Well, it was two thousand. Gay jokes were.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Big, Yeah they were.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Here's the other thing. Right after that, they're in the
septic tank driving I think to the job site to
get or whatever, right, and Gordy goes, man, my dad sucks,
and then Scott Cohn's character goes, at least you got
one on and then he's like, oh, yeah, right, and
then I never hear about it for the rest of
the movie.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I never remember hearing another line of dialogue. There could
have been one, but I didn't hear it. So the
fact that I didn't hear it, I did write a note.
I was like, and I was gonna ask you, is
this a joke? Because Scott Kahn's dad is a legendary actor.
Oh if it is, was that supposed to be a joke?
Like at least you got one?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
The Godfather, he should have been Superman, you know, yeah,
Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's kind of like those things that like the movie
another wonderful classic bad movie, The Room, where the lady says, well,
it's official, I have breast cancer and then you.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Never hear about it, and cancer you never heard about
it again?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, little but dropped like, hey, my dad's dead.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, and then that's it. So it's like, yeah, Gordy,
your dad might be a jerk, but uh, you know,
learn to like him because at least you have one.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, you have a dad to grab your balls.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah. And then so there's a few things. But this
is the other thing. On Scott CON's character, which was
his name again in the movie.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Do you have that?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, I do, Sean, Yes, Sean. A couple things on Sean.
He actually seems a little too good looking to be.
They both do, They both do. But I say I'd
say Scott a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
He's a handsome man, so when he's having issues with the.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Dairy queen girl and you know this, I did want
to say that because I think, uh, it is a
probably negative stereotype two typical wrestling fans. I mean, let's
let's all pause for a second, everybody and look at
Brad Gilmore, very handsome man, big fan.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
So obviously there are exceptions.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
To the rule.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think most of them look more.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Different.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
There's a stereotip. There's a stereotype of what you think
a wrestling fan would be.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
And it's not James Kahn's son, No, who like doesn't
really give an indication why he's a super fan of
that when really he should be so busy having lots
and lots of intercourse with women that he should have
no time to know what wrestling history is.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, yeah, he just seems a little too good looking,
and not that David Arqutte isn't. But also I'm like
surprised in some ways that Arquette becomes the wrestler and
Scott Khn's the manager because there's also some like athletic
moves even when they're there at the job site. Scott
Khn hits him with a souplex. There's a point where
I think where it's a ddp's on the ground and
Scott Cohn like slides in and like snakes his legs

(24:35):
around ddp's throat really like really good, and he kind
of seemed like the better athlete to me.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Should Arquette be like the funny sidekick.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
And not the lead, Well, I feel like David Arquette
was a lead at the time, Like, you know, he's
a lead in a movie in my opinion, Like if
you're going to have him in Scott Khn, it's definitely
David Arkette. Now, Scott Carr will go on the very
next year and be an Ocean's eleven. So he was
on a pretty good run after this movie. But but
you do see him. He's a balloon boy.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's the line. That's my favorite line.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
You do see you do see Scott Cohn here and
go wow, this guy. Actually, maybe I'm just all in
on Scott Cohn's character and just the way he did it.
He's a good looking guy, and he also was like
charismatic and I felt like, oh wow, he's got a
good on screen presence, like you like watching this guy
to where sometimes with our quette, although I am a
big fan of David Arquette, you know, obviously, and we'll

(25:30):
talk about the real life wrestling that happened after this
with David Arkette.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I have read about that that is controversial, yes.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
But he to me, I just found myself going like
this Sean guy is cool, Like, this is a cool guy.
Even he makes the bracelet, which was like a really
well done ye w w KD. And he was thoughtful
enough to make Gordy one too, you know, God he
was Yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Really he's hitting, he's he's his mental idness must be
self esteem because he should be he's got.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
He's just yeah, he's better than this.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Come on, dude.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, and so it's too maybe codependent with his pal.
Maybe that's it.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's just like he's grown up with this guy, doesn't
want to leave him, kind of maybe feels bad for him,
and he yeah, he works at a septic tank, which
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And again this is a terosterotips terrible stereotype. I don't
know how many good looking Hollywood types work in poop.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Right, and there could be they're very well could be,
but we don't know. The stereotype, isn't there. Let's talk
more about the stereotypes here for a couple of things.
One mainly it's it's an odd and I'm trying to
figure out the depiction of the pro wrestler, like are
the progressing fan rather because at first it's like, oh,

(26:50):
this is for kids. These guys are kind of lame losers.
They're stupid, they drive a septic tank. The hot girl
won't go out with them. They're you know, they live
with their parents, and they're probably a little bit past
the prime if they're alive. Even the other guy who
they encounter, the Internet guru, he's you know, at a
gas station playing a arcade version of Jimmy the King.

(27:13):
He's kind of like a loser. The big star Jimmy
the King is depicted as a big loser, and that's
something I do want to pick up on as well.
And then even the girl who also works at the
dairy Queen not like the the one, not Britney, the
other one. Yeah, she's kind of made to be a
bit of a loser. The old lady has made to

(27:34):
look crazy. And I was like, you know, there's not
a great commentary on pro wrestling fandom in certain parts
of this movie. And I don't know, did you think
that the film that was a pro wrestling driven movie
almost made it look like the pro wrestling fans aren't
supposed to be cool peoples. Well, this is the biggest

(28:00):
time in pro wrestling. That's why I was like, yeah,
it's interesting. But like as a kid, it was, it
did start off like you almost like were undercover about
being a wrestling fan. You go, oh, hey, you watch wrestling.
You watch it? Oh yeah, I watch it.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Too, And look at the people that don't do it
in shame. They're standing in front of the convenience store
preaching and the weird bald clerk comes out and mocks them,
and thing goes back to work as the Yeah, that
felt like it was the.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Dream sequence before the dream sequence even started, Like Okay,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It seemed like they either they did go all the
way with either side, like either make them cool or
make them really weird, but they just kind of made
them like, Eh, nobody want to necessarily hang around with,
or watch or go to a match with. Yeah, it'd
be the person that would sit next to you to
go oh like, not even in an entertaining way like
sometimes when they're super enthused, you're like, oh, right, this

(28:55):
is at least gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
But they were just.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Weird in a fun way.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
They were weird. And even the going back to the
opening scene of the convenience store clerk, it was a
line that me and my friends would quote to each other, Gordy,
why does it look like you have your finger up
your butt?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Because I do?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
And then he's like he shows the clerk the slurpy Oh,
he goes that smells like like it came out of
my ass, right, yeah, oh it's awful. How did you
drink that?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Well?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I got through struggled through most of it, and then
the butt fruit just sank to the bottom and I'm like,
what is this movie I made?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Jeff?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Watch, let's talk about the pro wrestling go ahead.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I will say it was real quick. I just want
to say.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But as bad as the clerk is the fact that
he leaves his post to go yell at people in
the parking lot, he does refund the uh or he
gives him another slurpee. Yeah, so he does have some
work ethic, which surprised me because I was thinking, be
consistent with the character, be like, well that's what you get,
you boob. He's like, no, let me get you another one.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, you've seen one smells better, sir. Yeah, this
one was.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
He was kind of nice.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I like the delusion there too, where he's like, that'd
be a dollar twenty six and then uh, He's like
he's like, it's twenty five. That's all I got. And
then they go into the big thing with the macho
man Randy Savage, who also had a bigger film credit
after this. Can you name the bigger film credit?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Bones song was ready Yeah, just two.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Years later he's bone soal He bounced back then a
year afterday he dropped his rap album. You know what
I mean, Like Macho was the guy. That's what it's
called the trajectory. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that here
in a little bit. Okay, so Sinclair, let's talk about
Titus Sinclair. So first first time we see him, we
actually see somebody I'm familiar with in the background. That's

(30:59):
Booker T. Yeah, players talking to Goldberg and Booker T.
This is pre dreads Booker. So this is two thousands Booker.
This is before the world titled.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
To Spot Him.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I knew he was in there, so I was looking for.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Him, Yes, and he was.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Did he ever like really jump up to the front.
He always seemed to be just kind.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Of yeah, he was kind of Yeah. He was in
the background a lot, and then he was part of
the King up front, the King's posse at the end.
And this is actually before Booker's like a sind to
a single star.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
It felt like when they.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Were filming it, he wasn't huge yet. But now whenever
you see any kind of retrospective on Ready to Rumble,
they always mentioned that he's in it.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, because then he became you know, Booker.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Two, He became a big deal. And this is like,
literally the movie came out. When when did the movie
come out?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
In two thousands, April two thousand.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
April two thousand, so this is three months the movie
comes out three months before Booker wins his first world title.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, yeah, so it's.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
A I'm sure they wish they got more close ups.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I'm sure that they did. So when we see Sinclair,
Joey Pants, I gotta say, is actually pretty damn good
in this movie. I buy him as Titus Sinclair. Yeah,
he's a he feels like a wrestling promoter. He feels
like an old guy from the Carny era, you know,
in the Territories, And so does Jimmy Jimmy King Oliver

(32:25):
Platt's character. But but what did you think of Joey
Pants and Titus Sinclair? I thought, without.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Knowing anything about who he's based on, I just felt, oh, yeah,
here's the slimy guy who's in it for the money.
I'm sure this is gonna be something that pays off.
He doesn't care about the fans. He just likes the
storyline that you know, brings in probably more like non
fan fans. And he seems to have like you know,
he just he didn't like Jerry King for whatever reason.

(32:54):
He seemed like a nice guy. He does act together.
But yeah, it was just I think Joey Pants.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Did well with it. It was pretty typical, like it.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Was a one line one yeah, bad guy, but I
bought it. I bought it. The other thing is this,
so he lays out the finish of the main event
to Diamond Dallas Page, who shout out to DDP, another
favorite of mine, and In Goldberg who's sitting right there,

(33:24):
and Goldberg's like, oh yeah, I'll relay the finish to King.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
This is all stuff that does happen. A lot of
pro wrestling accurate. A lot of pro wrestling is booked
in in the middle of the hallway. And I hope
I'm not speaking out of school here, but like I
remember one time being backstage at Survivor Series. It was
in Houston, and there was a big five on five
Survivor Series match that was going to go on later
that night, and I remember distinctly Triple h was in

(33:49):
that match, and I remember him in the hallway with
one of the other guys talking about, Okay, we'll do this, this, this, this,
and this right, so this in the hallways of every
pro wrestling arena or locker room. The matches are discussed.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Right before they go out.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Sometimes yeah wow, sometimes.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
It's a lot to remember. That's a lot of evmproblem.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Well, so I will say in Booker's era a little different, right.
A lot of the times they would go, hey, what's
the finish like they do in this scene, what's the finish? Okay?
The finishes?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
You know Diamond Dawas Page over on Booker t Diamond
cut or sinno the ring one two, three, okay, cool?
And that's all Booker and Diamond Dallas Page would have.
That was all they would have. And then they go, okay,
we'll call it in the ring? Is what a lot
they know?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
How long? They know?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Minutes the match is supposed to be? Then how is
it the referee that's keeping tracked?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Referee gives you cues, Hey, you're one minute you know
you're one minute in. Hey y'all got five minutes left? Okay,
you got five minutes left?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Start thinking about your exit.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, work to the finish. And then there's a couple
of signals like, hey, y'all need to go home. If
someone says go home, go home, that means you're running
short on time. It's time to get to the finish.
So every ladies sometimes.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
So a lot of.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Guys of this era would just know they're finish and
so what we saw in the ring. This is another
thing where they're trying to kind of reveal a little
bit behind the scenes. When Jimmy King and down Dallas
Page are actually wrestling, it's like, hey, give me a
give me a hip toss, give me this, give me that,

(35:24):
you know, uh, leap frog whatever. Like they'll call the
what's called spots. They'll call spots to each other.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
So there are we in the crowd not noticing because
I'm just thinking back as a kid, I never could
tell they were talking to each other.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
So this comes in certain things, right. This is why
a lot of wrestlers tended back then to have long hair,
because if there's two there was two reasons. One, if
you get hit, if you get hit, boom, that hair flies.
So the guys all the way up there in the
in the cheap seats like where our Sean and Gordy
were sitting, they could see the action. And also if

(36:00):
you lean your head forward, that hair covers your mouth
so you can go all right, brother, tackle, drop down, leapfront,
and a lot of times if they have you in
a headlock, that headlock was for two reasons. Let's rest
for a second, let's catch our breath, and then let's
figure out where we're going. All right, Hey, we're gonna
go here, here, here, let's go boom, and then you
go into it. So a lot of the times guys

(36:21):
wouldn't know anything they were doing other than the finish
of the match. That's all they would know. So they
would pull it in the ring a lot of improv,
and these guys would work on house shows, so so
many times, if say Jeff and I, you were in
a pro you and I were in a program wrestling
each other, we might wrestle on TV once and on
pay per view twice, But we're wrestling on these live

(36:42):
events that are not televised, yeah, dozen times, so we
have time to work out what our quote unquote match
would be like.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Make little. It doesn't have to be the most exciting
thing in the world because it's not going to be documented, right,
and there's no like big stakes or anything.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
No one's no title changes.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I went to a couple of those as a kid
where when I got there, I realized that, you know,
the cameras weren't there, And even as a kid, I thought, well,
Jake the Snake ain't taking the Intercontinental Championships the night. Yeah,
like steel cage match with Macho Man during that era.
When I noticed the cameras weren't there, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Well, yeah, I'm not going to change the time.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'm not going to tell us later. Hey guys, you
missed it. But in Long Beach.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Change, Jake the Snake is the new Intercontinental Champion.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
So to me, a lot of that reads true, like
calling it right in the in the locker room, in
the hallway, in the ring. Now there's a part where
then Sinclair brings DDP aside and goes, hey, you heard
everything I said. Screw that you're going over. I told
you I take care of you, Diamond Cutter whatever, one,
two three. That obviously, But but there is a ref

(37:52):
famous wrestling story. I know this that that has happened before,
and this is was it before, this was before it
was so this could be based on the Montreal screw Job,
is right, heart, Yes, as it's referred to the Montreal
screw Job with Brett Hart and Shawn Michaels. Where for
now Wrestling fans what happened. Brett Hart was the champion,

(38:14):
he was leaving to go join w CW and he
didn't want to lose to Shawn Michaels. They had a
long professional rivalry with one another. They were in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Brett Hart's a Canadian. He didn't want to lose to
Sean in Canada. These are guys who had real life heat,
as we call it, with each other. They hated one
another in real life. They had incredible chemistry, but they

(38:36):
hated each other. There are a lot of real quote
unquote shoot moments that happened on television where you know
Sean one time said Brett Hart has had some sunny
days lately, and that was alleging that he was unfaithful
to his wife with the wrestler of the time named Sonny.
There was a real life fight they had backstage where

(38:56):
they were scrapping with each other and had to get
broken up. So there was some real life shoot moment.
That's a shoot moment. There's some real life shoot So
Brett doesn't want to lose the title. Vince McMahon says, no,
worries go out there, We're gonna have a big schmaus
ending it's gonna be a disqualification whatever, whatever, And then
allegedly somebody said, hey, if Brett doesn't want to do business,

(39:17):
we'll do business for him, and Sean went to go
put Brett in the sharpshooter. Vince was standing in their
ringside said put it ring the bell, Ring the bell,
ring the bell, and Brett Hart was legitimately screwed out
of the championship on live pay per view, and then
afterward punched Vince McMahon in the face in the locker room,
gave Vince a black eye. There's a great documentary about

(39:39):
all of this that happened in real time called Wrestling
with Shadows. If you've never seen it, I highly suggested,
but I did feel like this is what that could
have been based off of, Yeah, have you seen Wrestling
with Shadows?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
No, I know the story, and I don't know how
I know it, maybe just from like YouTube or even
I saw the Vince documentary on Netflix. Was that included
in that way?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
It probably was?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I think it's it's a story that even if you're
a casual wrestling fan, you know of and since also
Brett Hart was from you know, Heart Foundation is from
my era of the eighties, and I loved the Heart
Foundation back then. I used to like the Bad Guys,
so uh, I'm aware of it. So yeah, when I
saw that, I was thought, oh, this is going to
be an interesting movie too, They're going to take things

(40:26):
from real life and then not really so, but I
thought the character of Jerry King felt like Jimmy K
wrestler or Jimmy King, sorry, Jimmy King felt like other
wrestlers that I remember from that era too. Was is
he would you consider him like an amalgam of I.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Think that he's an amalgamation with people. I think he's
a little generic, but I think his backstory is that
kind of very common, like coming up on you know,
a Southern circuit plug.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Why did I call him Jerry King just now because
Jerry Jarry.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
King law or this wrestler kind of a similar build
ish look, kind of a little bit of shape, kind
of yeah yeah, like kind of dad bod but you
think could actually kick your butt, you know. But yeah,
and you know the story of Jimmy King on the
on the road is like, you know, he's not there
for his son, and he's not faithful to his wife,
and he blew all his money. These are stories that

(41:20):
have been told in the history and annals of time
of wrestling. It's like rock Stars, like rock Stars, very
similar run in the eighties, and the only thing that's
unbelievable is like having a wrestler go fourteen years without
ever losing before and then they're gonna just screw him
out of the title on a nitro, you know, seems
kind of unbelievable. And then things that continue to happen,

(41:44):
like showing up backstage and this isn't the script, as
the cameraman said, yeah, film this, film this, this isn't
in the script, and then Sinclair going, you're gonna get
a match, you know, I've decided right now in Vegas
se perview.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
We're gonna put her.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna book the m Jim Grand Yeah,
we'll take care of the pay per view. That seemed
like that was kind of like almost behind the scenes too,
like they were saving something big for pay per view.
I'm sure is what really happens, but the way they
did it, like you said, it was so just kind
of spontaneous that I didn't really one thing.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
One thing something I didn't understand about the movie is
what was Sinclair's motivation to screw Jimmy King out of
the title because he was still over, as we say
in wrestling, fans still buying tickets for him. Yeah, you know,
he was showing up for his show. There was a
comment that Diamond Doll's Page made in the match when

(42:43):
they're about to lock up. Nice you to show up, Jimmy. Oh,
it was just traffic, baby, it was just traffic or whatever.
He said right saying that he didn't have to show
up to the building like the rest of them on time.
So maybe there's a little bit of a star attitude
prima donna. Starting to believe your own press clippings, believe
in his own hype could have been. But I that

(43:04):
was an interesting wrinkle. So Jimmy King, I didn't really
one hundred person believe as some great pro wrestler, especially
like when he's next to Goldberg and Booker and Page
and staying you go, you don't look like you belong
to one of.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
These things is not like the other. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, they decided to cast a very funny, good actor.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Great actor.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
You surrounded him with pro wrestlers or even the smallest
of pro wrestler if you saw them in the wild, would.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Be you'd be like, damn, he's big enormous.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, And when I remember thinking, well and I saw
that it was Oliver Platt, Yeah, he was a musketeer.
But I don't I don't think of him.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
As a big guy.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I don't know who you had cast back then or
even cast now to play a pro wrestler that didn't
have that didn't come from pro wrestling.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
He's athletics or something, or certainly when it's surrounded.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
By like the largest guys in the universe in the era,
unless that's part of the story, like you know he is,
you know, part of his gim he's the King and
that's almost like a sarcastic name because he's smaller than
everybody and at least you know, own it instead of
just trying to like, don't look, he's he's just like them.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I found myself not so much loving Jimmy the King
as much. But but towards the end when he turns
the leaf and we're I guess seeing his redemption arc
where he makes right with his Eugenia wife and gets
tickets to his first parents to the pay per view,
and he's, you know, waiting for Gordy and we need
Gordy to you know, come back or what have you. Yeah,

(44:50):
I kind of see a little bit of that.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Like, so you like him because of the story that
he has in the movie. I don't know why the
the guys were such fans of him.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I know they kind of give his a little bio
at the beginning of why he's so great, But it
also does that help that they throw him in the
same category. Like the opening credits are this montage of
Bruno San Martino and Andre the Giant and you know,
all these great things and then you know and him.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well that's what they were trying to show. They don't
seem to, Yeah, they're trying to show.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That, like Nix, it's tough to mix fiction was so
much real that it kind of does take you out
of it for a second.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Well, it takes you in and out. And that's why
I said. They played a lot with like do we
want to go all the way with the wrestling or
do we want to make it half in half out?
Do we want to you know, protect the business, as
people say, but also expose it at the same time.
It walked a very interesting line at times. Now let's

(45:53):
get into I guess some of the categories here. Okay,
if you want to.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Do real quick though, I do want to talk about Sasha.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yes, Rose McGowan.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Her character did that she really have a point other
than just being like she didn't accomplish anything other than
being one other than taking as virginity.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, which again is a lot.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
When she first was like liking him, I thought there's
gotta be a reason, and then she just wanted to
be like number one nitro dancer.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Is that it?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
So? You know what I thought the point of it
was in some ways, yes, she wanted to be number
one nitro dancer. But what would a pro wrestling movie
be without a baby face turning heel? Right, So we
think that she's this hot, awesome good girl who loves
Gordy for him and sees it pro wrestling and kind

(46:52):
of also, Gordy was living the fantasy of many a
wrestling fan who sees a beautiful woman on television and go,
oh man, it would be great to be with her.
And Rose McGowan's character Sasha as you refer to her.
I think that was her character's name. That's who she's
supposed to be, the one that every wrestling fan obsesses
and fantasizes over because they even say it, like, oh,

(47:14):
Gordy says it several times. She's the best one. She's
lover and she's positioned as the number one Nitrol girl.
And I want to talk about the Nitro girls too,
but they in that in that moment. Yeah, So the
wrestling fan that lives out his fantasy gets the girl
from TV, only to find out, you know, she's actually

(47:37):
just working for the bad guy, working for the bad guy.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
He come up at the end up the face by
a ladder.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yes, don't stand so close to the ring during a
ladder match. He tried to warn her. Yeah, you know,
And I think that that's what that was. We had
a heel turn and we had the wrestling fans fantasy
all in one person got it. But Leo, while we're there,
let's talk about the Nitro girls. Okay, Night Troe girls

(48:05):
were a real thing. This was something on television. They
had girls dancing in and out of break so that
the guys would be like, hey, can't go anywhere. Look
at that right, beautiful women dancing. One of them is
Booker T's wife, Charmel Hoffman, a WWE Hall of Famer
and her own right, she would go on to be

(48:26):
much more than a Nitro girl in the WWE, you know,
walking him to the ring, and every night they actually met.
Even though they knew each other in w CW, they
met for real on this film set, and this is
kind of where the romance blossomed.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
For Okay, well, it's all worth it.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
It's all worth it. This movie is worth it for
that reason alone. And it was cool to see her
in the movie a few times, because obviously I've known
Charmel for now thirteen years or whatever it's been. One
of the interesting things was at the end of the movie,
and then we'll go into our categories. At the very
end of the movie, you see Salmandini Salbandini in the

(49:14):
back of a hummer that one of the Nitrol girls
was driving and they picked up Gordie and Goldberg and
Sean and Salvandini's in the back and he's in the
hot tub. It looks like with two Nitrol girls. The
one on the left was Charmel. She's the one who
kisses him on the cheek as the credits roll, essentially,

(49:34):
And so I texted her last night and go, hey,
I watched Ready to Rumble for the first time and forever.
Why did I never realize that you kissed Martin Landau
on the cheek at the end of this movie? And
she sent me back the laughing emoji eyes and I said,
was he awesome? She said yes, and all capitals with
exclamation points. She goes, I just remember him holding court

(49:55):
when we were on set waiting to film. We would
all gather around him and he would tell the best stories.
Martin Landau.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
What a minch, you know, what a minch who's become
like our unofficial he's the mascots stars. Yes, we haven't
even talked about him yet, but this is the third
of five six or five Yeah, that that he's popped
in on.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Martin Landau is becoming a Pick six constant. And we
do we want to talk about Landou before we get
into the categories. We might as well. So Landau I
also think is based on a real life person. I
think he's based off of Stu Heart, which was the
father of Brett Hart, who famously trained wrestlers in his dungeon,
which was in his house, and Bret Hart as well

(50:39):
as the rest of the Hart family would say you
would routinely hear people screaming for their lives in the
dungeon because Stu Heart would put them in legitimate wrestling holds,
stretching them as we call it in wrestling. They would
stretch them until they would quit from the pain. And
I feel like that's supposedly who I think sal Bandini

(50:59):
is supposed to be a Stu Hart archetype of the
old school trainer who even though he was old, he
could still kick your butt and put you in those
legit wrestling holds like he did with the high school
wrestling team.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I see, Yes, he had his own little wrestling school,
but if I'm correct, had Jimmy Kick never.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Heard of this wrestling school when he got there.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
The guys did, no.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I think they they set up the visit to the school.
But he you hear Jimmy King go Salbandini, it's an honor,
and then he throws him on the floor. Right, Salbandini
want to wrestle. So I think he's one of those
wrestling ogs that you hear about and you're like, wow,
he was such a legend in his time, like maybe

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Killer Kolowski or any of those kind of guys Baron
von Rashti, some of the great AWA stars of yesteryear
in the seventies. And I think that's who he was
supposed to be, like a bygone era star who was
still legend. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, he's like Luke Skywalker and the and the sequels.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yes, yeah, he's like the Luke Skywalker and and he's
wrestling and helping Jimmy King, who I guess is meant
to be portrayed as not really a good wrestler. Yeah,
he's just again sure.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, but maybe that's it. It was more personality back
in his day.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
And it felt like I had to go back and
check the years because I thought, oh, this kind of
feels like the ripped horn character in Dodgeball. But Busball
came after four years after I think, Ready to Rumble,
so then it felt more kind of like a Kingpin or.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
What was the other one. I was thinking, just it's
the you know, the mentor that they go to and
in any sports movie.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yeah, yeah, this is the the guy who's gonna help unlock. Yeah,
and this is also part of the unbelievability of this movie,
which is he's training Jimmy King for I guess what
they're saying is going to be a shoot wrestling fight,

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like he and Diamondallis Page are gonna really fight in
this triple steel cage match, because that happens. Because that happens,
you know. Actually, this one's real.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Oh see, this is this is all. This is the
becoming like the whole pro wrestling insider.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Okay, two things, this is.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
What I was hoping for.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Two things I want to bring up. One, there was
an idea in the late nineties in the WWF of
a thing called the Brawl for All. Have you ever
heard of this? So Bral for All would feature your
favorite WWF performers competing in legitimate boxing matches on television,
so they would actually go out there and fight for

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real and swing and hit. And it was an idea
to bring in I think it was who was it
they were trying to make in that doctor de S
Steve Williams. So doctor de S Steve Williams was a wrestler,
and they're like, this guy so bad ass, we'll put
him in shoot fights. He'll beat everybody and then he'll
just get really over and he'll beat our next big

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star because he's a legit and tough guy. And then
a guy named Bart Gunn came in and actually won
the brawl for all. But guys are getting knocked out
on television for real.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
It was.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
It was not just an idea. They did it. It's
one of the best and worst things in the history
of pro wrestling, because these guys were getting hurt, they
were getting knocked out on television. It's just not a
good look. So so sometimes the shoot fights happened. And
then there's things in wrestling to where sometimes you know,
the guys they call it working a little snug where

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maybe they were supposed to pull the punch but they
hit you a little too hard. If you know, they
potato you is also what it's called. And sometimes when
that happens, you as the receiving end of this physical
assault or allowed or allowed what's called a receipt. So
if somebody gives it to you and they at you

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pretty hard, you go, Okay, I'm gonna give you a receipt,
and at some point during the same match you will
then return the favor. You will legitimately hit them some
kind of way to inflict the same amount of pain
in which they gave you. That's called a receipt, and
it happens all the time, even to this day. You
see it. There was a famous one a few years
ago where Brock Lesner was wrestling a guy named bron Stroman.

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Bron Stroman was working a little fast, hit Brock a
little too hard, and then you see Brock telling him
to slow the f down and then punch him in
the side of the face. Wow, So he gave him
his receipt mediate receipt. There's also a good story on YouTube.
You can find a Booker t and Steve Austin where
Booker hit Austin pretty hard and Austin immediately gave him

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a receipt right afterward, and they discuss it on our
radio show back in the day.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Would you wait for it? Would you think like you
would make.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yea too, I'd be patient. It's coming and you have
no idea what it's gonna be. But I'm a hit
what I'm gonna hit, but you'll know what it's done.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
So one of so not only is is it weird
that Jimmy King seems to be the training for a
legitimate fight against Tom Dallas Page. But then Sinclair is
so worried about Salbandini. That's why he has the Rose
McGowan character helps set him up by feeding information to
uh Titus Sinclair. Sinclair then sins Perry Saturn in Sid

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Vicious to Salbandini's house to assassinate him. I don't know
exactly what hit their role was, but I was like,
this is now we've jumped the shark here, like this
would not happen ever a million I hope this is
a very pro wrestling.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Well, yes, when did uh the wrestlers now become the
muscle for the promoter the guy?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah, yeah, okay, go rough him up.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
It didn't. That one didn't make a lot of sense
to me. And it was funny because, uh, you I recognize,
said Vicious. Yeah, who was a big deal in the
eighties and nineties, recently passed away not too long ago.
I think this year either this year in the last year.
So rest in peace, said Vicious, Psycho Sid Form champion.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, but uh he was.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
He was a great wrestler in his day. But yeah,
so that was that was strange. That was another strange
highlight to bring up of why are they assassinating Salbandini?
It doesn't really make a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
The poor old wrestling coach.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Poral wrestling coach.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Yeah, what was the ticking clock?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
It was like it was just like how many weeks
before the match?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
It was like was it eight weeks or sometimes?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
But it was like, hey, that was part of.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
The impromptu deal too, We're to do this match, you've
got eight weeks.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
The other thing that was just ridiculous. The other thing,
there's several things that were ridiculous. A couple of them were, Hey,
I need you to help me recruit a posse, right,
and they have posse tryouts in uh, where are they Wyoming?
They're in Lusk, Wyoming. I believe it's This is where it.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Feels like a two thousand movie too, where it's like
we got to put together the mystery.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Men, right, we got to put together the mystery Men.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
So we have the audition. It's like parts of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
So we have Fred the Fireman, I believe, the chere
and then Kitty who Kitty was there just for like
what gratuitous sexiness?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Sure? Well now yeah this is now are we making
fun of wrestling again?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
It feels like we're making fun of rest.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah, like, look at these ridiculous characters.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Right, the Siamese Twins, Like I look at it.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
See how I would saying that their pro wrestling is
with like how outrageous they'll get with these particulous characters
that normal people would think are weird, but the fans
eat it up.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
But I will say it was kind of a This
is a line that I chuckled at. It was a
groan and a at the same time. Is when they're
doing the auditions and then they go here we are,
here's Kitty and then he goes, how is she going
to help us in Vegas? And then she like just
robes and they say my friends called me pretty kiddy
or something like that, and then Oliver Platt turns to

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Scott conn and goes, what is she going to do?
Boom them to death? I thought was like a dumb line,
but it was funny at the same time.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Yeah, that's the line that they went go with that.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Let's go with that, go with boom the other ones?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
What were the rejected ones?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
This was PG thirteen though it was a PG thirteen,
although there was an F bomb in Joey Pants dropped
an F bomb. He does that one F bomb, one
F bomb.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
That makes it cool.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
But I actually liked when I found Oliver Platt his
portrayal of Jimmy King. As it got more into the movie,
you notice he ends a lot of stuff with baby,
it's not good. It's not good for me, Baby, I
need to get out of here, baby, you know, or
are I think he sees Goldberg in the gym and
he goes, yeah, Goldberg looking real jet maybe looking real jacked,

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you know, and stuff like that. This is actually how
like some pro wrestlers of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Talk yeah, yeah, they're doing my babies now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Yeah yeah, the baby brother kid. These are these are
like very common wrestling vernacular.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
What's also interesting, I mean you may have seen this
in your research. In that scene where Jimmy King is
trying to get Goldberg to be a part of his posse,
there's a young, young, young, young John Cena in the
background working out at the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
It seems like they never turned the camera on the
right future superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
They screwed the pooch on Booker and John by keeping
him in the background, and then John Cena is like
a blinking it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
But this is before Sena I believe was signed to
WWE and the OVW, so I think he was. I
know John Cena's career a little bit. I know he
trained at up W, which was in California. So perhaps
they just put out a casting called a local hires
to be Jim studs for a wrestling movie, and then boom,
here comes John Cena. It just happens to be the
biggest star of the history of pro wrestling, maybe seventeen

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times world heavyweight champion, holds the record all time world
title run.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
That's kind of cool, like, hey, he's out of focus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
He's had a focus in the back for a second.
A lot of also weird edits in this movie, I
will say, just small things where that's edited strangely, it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Was weird that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, it kind of tried to have and that was
part of the toad too. Like when they did the
fantasy sequence at the beginning, I thought, Oh, this movie's
going to be like that. It's just going to be
this crazy, like over the top acting. You know, it's
all dollar twenty five, So I got that's how.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
We're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Okay, So it's all gonna be like this over the
top everything feels like the macho man, this is going
to be if the macho man had a fantasy of
a movie in his head, that's what we're gonna watch
right now, right, And then they would do that every once. Well,
and that's part of the like the schizophrenia that we
talked about, just it was a lot and it was

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just kind of like I wish.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
They picked mm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Me too, because it seemed like there were some tonal
shifts here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
And then yeah, then you'd have like the funny typical
character like h sal Banditi. Who is my scene Steeler
Crown because it's you know, it's Martin Landau.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
So okay, so yes, we we're in We're in the
same place here as far as so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
That's an obvious one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Sometimes when you we come up with our categories, always
say like who's the the smaller character that steals the show?

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
It's sometimes very obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Who Yeah, and and again I believe he was also
our pick for scene steel Kitties. Pretty kitties up there, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Boomed me to death.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I think Martin Landau was also our our person for
our seen Steeler Wood for ed Wood, wasn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I'm sure?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I think he probably would he had to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yeah, if he's not, I will change my answer because
I probably If he isn't, then I was trying to
be clever. You're just trying to have it like, Oh,
I'm gonna make it be the guy that works the
studio that rejected him, or yeah, no, it's it's got
to be Lando.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Let's see seen Steeler Martin Landau. For sure, Salbandini want
to wrestle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
But Sting was good too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I liked Sting well, so I've Sting in a later category. Okay, yeah,
I've Sting in a later category, which I want to
talk about big moment? What was the big moment from
this movie that kind of the moment you'd want to
watch again and again? Do you have one? Is it
the triple cage match or what is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I think that's that makes me want to watch that again.
I did. I keep mentioning I must have liked the
opening scene at the convenience store, because I did. You
have mentioned that a few times. But I think that
also had a lot to do with MacHall Man, because that's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
You know, my favorite guy, the best wrestler of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, he's up there at least top five. I think
Rowdy Roddy Piper is my favorite forever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
But oh you Noah, you know I met Rowdy Piper
yeah mm hmm. And it was a couple of months
before he passed away, actually Saturday was. But he was
at a at Comic Palooza, which is where you and
I were last year in Houston. And I remember going
up there with a cameraman of ours name Kelly and
and we went over to him and asked if he
would do a drop for Reality of Wrestling and uh

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and he did really or wrestling though, be there be
square a babe, is what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
And I remember that bag of catchphra.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
He was still he was still cool man. He was
still Rowdy Roddy Pipe for the hot Rod and yeah
he's one. And I think Dusty Rhodes died right after
him or right before. It was back to back. I
was like, man, like two of the best talkers in
the history of pro wrestling out one after another, and
Rowdy Roddy Piper is probably the best, second probably number two,

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but real close to the best heel in the history
of pro wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Lovable Heel too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Lovable Heels said terrible things if you go back and want,
you know, do a deep dive on some of the
I think he did blackface at some point half black face,
Yeah that's right, Okay, then make a point, yeah it's
only half offensive. But the different era, I mean, even
like if you go back and listen to some things
Bobby the Brain, he even said.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Oh yeah, it's to today's years. It hits differently for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Yeah, and you know, the rest in peace, Bobby the Brain.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Rest peace, Bobby the Brain.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
But I remember my favorites are gone to me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Obviously the best heel in the history of pro wrestling,
and maybe now it's in front end, behind the scenes,
depending on what you want to believe. Is Vincent Man
best hell in the history of pro wrestling?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I don't think you could help it that, No one can.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
It was an odd choice because when I, you know,
was watching, I didn't even know he owned WWF because
he was just an announcer on the Jack Tunney. Yeah,
Jack Johnny is making these decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
And now you look back, Oh, I was live to
it was him. It was the guy that was going Jesse.
Yeah what you're saying, Jesse Ventura.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Uh yeah, But Vince was Vince was great. One time
Vince did a promo where he where he hired everybody.
He hired the audience and he hired everyone watching on television, goes,
you're all hired, you know, and he hires everybody, and
then he like starts talking about how life sucks and
then you die, and and uh, if you want to
beat a billionaire, you got to become one yourself. And

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I just hired all of you in this arena and
watching from home just so I could say you are fired.
Every one of you is fired. And I remember him
doing this promo thinking this guy, I hate this guy.
You're really good at it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Who would marry him? And then where would she end up?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Where was she? She's not going to ever do anything
in public. Hell then with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Education, I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Uh levels our scene Steeler big moment. We talked about
either pay per view or the opening scene. It was
cool to see macho Man, even if it was first second,
because he's in the beginning of the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Then he's gone, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Yeah, He's like, I'm doing one day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I'm only going to do one day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I think it was smart to have him be the
first cameo because everybody knows much.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Abe.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Even if you're going in and not knowing necessarily who
Bam Bam Bigelow is, then at least you know much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I agree with you, prop Shop. What's one thing
that you'd want to own from this movie and put
into your home, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I've always wanted to have my own wrestling ring. It
has been.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
It's on my bucket list at some point to just
bounce off the ropes of a wrestling and I don't
need to climb up to the turnbuckle. I just want
to bounce back and then run across and bounce back
and then get out of the ring.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Next time you're in Houston. Will make that a reality.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I've never Yeah, I've always wanted to do that, Like
crawl through. I want to see which one I go through.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I don't want to go down Miss Elizabeth Way and
have to go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Like to the bottom. I want to not won't go
at the top your middle below. But I also want
to do the slide.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
It's like when they run in the slide, slide headfirst
in and see like how far I get? Probably not far,
probably hit my crutch, but that's what I would do.
So for me, I'll take I'll take a ring. I
don't know where I'm gonna put it, but somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
It's hard not to say the title belt. Although I
have a replica of that championship hanging on my wall
over there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Yeah, you already got it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
It's hard to not say that one. And actually that's
a w c W replica belt, not not like from
the w CW era, So that's not even like a
WWF copy. That is a w c W belt I
have right there, which always a belt. If you look,
there's a there's a there's a bind in the top
of the w CW title. If you go back and
look at late nineties into early two thousands, the titles

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bent and they never thought to fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Ahead, isn't the belt in the movie?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Like the color scheme is slightly askew.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
It looks like there's a little bit more silver background. Yeaheah,
it looks like a replic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
I wonder why, Yeah, maybe look like a so you'd
have to be the title belt. It a dollar or
the dollar twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Dollar twenty five sold like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
If if if if people knew and they walked into
your office and saw a dollar twenty five they'd be
like not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Oh I would love That's all I got.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Yeah, you'd laugh Ready to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Yeah, I will say I also would take Sinclair's jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Oh yeah, like that jacket. That's what Kid Rocker now
wears when he goes to the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
It is very kid rocky and which, by the way,
there was a lot of kid rock in the movie. Right,
but there's a ball with the ball and a cowboy
needle drop.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
It sure was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, this is an interesting soundtrack, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Two thousand was an interesting time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Because Kid Rock was always really big into the pro
wrestling world. That's actually, ironically, the one and only time
I met Kid Rock was at a pro wrestling show
Go Figure in Nashville. I'm looking at the soundtrack here.
I want to find the soundtrack too Ready to Rumble.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I sat Motley Crue in there. I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I think there's a Motley Crue. There's a Van Halen, obviously,
there's run DMC King of Rock.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah. Yeah, Motley Crue inspired my song that we'll get
to later in the categories for the theme from Ready
to Rumble.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Oh yeah, a different version of We Will Rock You
is there at the end. Oh yeah, bad version very
bad version Scott Wheeling Girls, Girls, Girls, is in there?
Baby one more Time is in there? Sure, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Probably not on the soundtrack.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Bloodstains obviously, what else is there? Jump around? I don't
remember here and jump around? Do you remember hearing jump around?

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
But that was that popped up in a lot of movies.
It makes me think of a doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Fire last resort. I don't remember last resort.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
In there because don't give up so much of it
was like, I'm sure I have a playlist on my
Spotify from from all that. It's from the angry White
Guy era.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yes, but Kid Rocket has an interesting place in pro
wrestling right. So not only did I meet Kid Rock
at a wrestling show, Joe c who was his sidekick
for a long time, said that he became Kid Rock's
sidekick just so he could try to get into the WWF.
That was his whole mission. He was a stepping stone.
And then Kid Rock actually provided the the actually Moniker

(01:11:48):
and the theme music for the version of the Undertaker
after he shed the dead man gimmick and he decided
to be like a biker. He did like a biker
thing in the early two thousands, and he was known
as the American Badass and use the American Badass song
from Kid Rock. So and that Kid Rocks provided the
WrestleMania theme song a few times, so and he's a

(01:12:10):
ww Hall of Famer. I was actually at Kid Rock's
induction and Bill Goldberg's into the Hall of Fame, Go
figure and he'll Billy Jim. How was that that whole?

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, the night before third and four. Don't go messing
with the country boy, you know. I was actually seated
right next to Booker and Charmel obviously, and behind Linda McMahon,
Shane McMahon, John Cena and the Bella Twins. So it's
a whole ready to rumble thing going on. And Brad
gilboth the boat and the boat was in the building
second row, just saying good seats, brother.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
And if they only knew that years later picked six podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
We'd be talking about it, talking about it for over
an hour. Okay, we're not even close to be done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Everybody, settle in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
We're getting there. We're getting there. We're going through our categories.
One liner, legend, what you got? Will you have a
good line other than I'll boom you to death?

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I changed it to that actually was. I like just
the water wrestle that Landau did, it was, you know, classic.
I mean that should have been the tagline of the movie.
But I've forgotten about Boom to Death.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Well, I will say I like all Jimmy the King's catchphrases.
I will rule you is great because the King I
get it, and I like I like when David Arquette
they're in the trailer and David Arkett goes, come on,
just one time, give us a give us a big
I enjoyed. I enjoyed all the pro wrestling catchphrases from

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Jimmy the King. Also, wad do you have your finger
up your butt? Because I do? Is a funny one
dollar twenty five. That's all I got to be up
there Boom them to death? Was there any there any
other ones that stuck out to me while I was
watching the movie that made me pop? No, I mean
those were pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Those are good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Those are good, and the fact that we've mentioned them
all up until now looks very organically appreciated. I will
rule you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Rewind the oh no, best shot fired? Oh yeah, what
do you got for that one?

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I have?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I have an interesting one?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
But what do you have, Okay, mine is sting the
descents coming down from the ceiling.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
It looked pretty that his makeup was on point.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
He was looking good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
So ours are all like within the same realm, because
mine I have two. One is I like Gordy's entrance
into the pay per view on the motorcycle, on the
motorcycle into the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, he got that motorcycle in pass his dad all
the way to Las Vegas, into the MGM Grand Hotel,
into the convention space or you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
The arena past security.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
I guess he's dressed as a cop, so maybe they yeah,
they're like, oh, it's with the elbow my badge, and
then hey I need to take that into the ring.
Oh but something there's an event going on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
It's fine. Uh is there a ramp I could fly
up on?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Oh yeah, we'll get you in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
And there was Yeah, that was just like when he.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Came back after deciding wrestling is not for me and
then off camera decides it's for me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm a fan. I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Never mind. Sorry about that that low moment, But.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I did like how his dad all of a sudden
when because this is actually, this is actually a good moment. Okay,
and I do, and I'm actually this part is actually
good and I want then let me just say my
other best shot fired that I liked was d dp's
fall through the cages because when he hits the mat,
you think he's dead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Yeah, it was a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Bro you never know. So the two things that I
wanted to to talk about this match with Gordy's dad. First,
Gordy's dad says, all wrestlings for you know, sissy's or
kids or whatever, you need to stop with all the
wrestling crap. Grow up, be a real man. I've heard
this before from people growing up whatever. And then I go, okay, okay,

(01:16:17):
you're not into wrestling, you think wrestling is stupid and silly,
that's fine. Let me show you a match. Let me
show you a match. One match that is all I
ask you to watch. And nine times out of ten
people go, okay, that was pretty cool. That was pretty cool.
I gotta give you that one. That was pretty cool, right,
And at that moment with his dad made me go

(01:16:39):
I've seen this happen in real life where the dad
this is stupid and then he sees it and because
he has an emotional investment in one of the characters.
All of a sudden, he's into pro wrestling like everybody else.
And that's what wrestling has always been about, an emotional
investment in somebody and wanting to see this physical storytelling

(01:17:01):
take place in front of you. It's the same reason
we like fight scenes in movies, why we like the
Rocky movies. Rocky is pro wrestling, like it is a
pro wrestling movie. You know, Creed is a pro wrestling
karate Kids pro wrestling, But like Apollo, Creed is based
on Ali. We would say, probably right, and Ali based

(01:17:24):
his whole personality on Gorgeous George, who is a pro wrestler.
So Rocky is pro wrestling, Karate Kid is pro wrestling.
Pro wrestling is pressing. So this was a great moment
where I saw like a conversion of somebody happen into
a wrestling fan. The second thing is and I forgot
what the girl's name is, the other girl from the
Dairy Queen, not Brittany, but the other girl who Sean

(01:17:46):
ends up sleeping with on the trailer before they leave,
and then we see Scott Kahn but on screen there
do whatever her name is. There's a moment wherever. When
Jimmy the King wins and you see everyone's celebrating, She's
looking at the television, jumping up and down, screaming with

(01:18:09):
incredible elation. And I know this is going to sound
silly on the Pick six podcast about a movie that
came out in two thousand called Ready to Rumble, which
starts off with sanitation workers becoming pro wrestlers. But when
she's jumping up and screaming like that, it does remind
me of like why people love wrestling, and like there's

(01:18:29):
something when you're at a wrestling show, Jeff, and you
see the people who are bought in one hundred percent
and they have the reactions to the winds and losses
the way that she did. You go, god, man, this
is the best thing on earth. It makes you feel
like nothing is better than this. And even when I'm
watching the show from my commentary position and I jump

(01:18:50):
up out of my seat for certain things, it just
reminds you of the romance that you can get swept
up in in pro wrestling. I know that sounds too
deep for the six podcast, am I Ready to Rumble?
But it did make me think of that in that moment.
It kind of touched me just a little bit. And
then it cuts to Scott con which was another great

(01:19:11):
moment in the movie where he throws the powder and
diamond Dallas pages facing us that doesn't work, and then
he says, diamond upside down?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Is it? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
And that was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
But see that's again the toad, like, Okay, is it
real or is it not? Like are you showing us
that it's all fake? Like, either show us that the
chairs don't hurt, or make the chairs hurt, or make
the powder that you know, Kobla cot what was his name,
the guy you spit the green spew. That's from my
era too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
You're like, oh, no, you're talking about the Great Muda.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Maybe I don't remember it, but I just remember just
a Ventura used to call it the green spew and
it would like poison everybody's face because he had this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Wendy was the character by the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Way, Wendy Wendy, Wendy Wendy. I recognize her? Who is she?

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
She? I had to as well, and I and I thought, oh,
I've definitely seen her and stuff, and then I thought,
maybe I have it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
She's in saving mister Banks. She's the Descendants.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Now, if anybody watches The Descendants, she's the very godmother
on The Descendants.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
That's probably your biggest deal.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
She's familiar, she looks. She reminded me of the actress
that plays Velma in the Scooby Doo movies. And then
she's been what's her name Geeks from Freaks and Geeks.
She kind of reminds me of that, So maybe that's
who I'm relating her to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
I think she might have done commercials to something. Yeah,
but yeah, when I saw her, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it's her.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
And she was good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
So what's your Rewind that moment where you want to
see it again and again?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Rewind that moment?

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Uh, yeah, it's the hallucination at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Yeah, it's the best, it's one of the best.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Going back to that, but it's it's the weird. This
is how this movie is gonna go and it's not.
But it makes me wonder, what if this whole movie
was just being stuck in a pinball machine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Yes, it kind of feels that way, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Yeah, what's gonna happen next? And then you know, poop.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
But for a second there, it was like, this is
gonna be quite a ride, and it was just not
the right I expected.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Yes, very very interesting, very interesting. So let's let's move
on to Oh well, let me give you my my
rewind that way my rewind that is anything with the
macho man Randy Savage always for life.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
That's not even this movie. Anything with macho man Randy Savage.
Now slim gym commercials.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Step into a slim gym Who you rewind that plot
hoole parade. I think we've talked about some of the
plot holes here. Yeah, so we've already kind of gotten
to that cameo King or Queen. It's sting, is my cameo?

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Yeah? Sting for me as well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Yeah, Okay, let's go to is it true trivia? Because
I think we're gonna spend a little bit of time here. Okay,
so there's a few things. Let's talk about how David Arquette,
instead of uh, just going on a regular media tour,
decided to actually go in the pro wrestling business and
be on WCW, Nitro and Thunder and pay per view
and do very well, and do very well, so well

(01:22:08):
in fact that he actually won the WCW World Heavyweight
Championship in real life, this happens, they decide Deputy Dewey. Look,
pro wrestling has always had a dance with celebrity, right, hey,
if we can get a celebrity Inmania.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Mister T.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Mister T was at the very first WrestleMania.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
They did the same thing with no holds bar and
Zeus just a character with that tiny and then uh,
he became he came out of Zeus.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
He came out of Zeus on television. But also like
even in recent years, Logan Paul is now like a
full time pro wrestler, bad Bunny pro wrestler. They had
Snooky at a WrestleMania. They've had so many celebrities. Donald Trump,
Donald Trump was involved in one of the biggest WrestleMania
main events ever, Battle of the Billionaires. You had, Uh,

(01:22:53):
Johnny Knoxville a couple of years ago, did a whole
string of appearances for the ww F and had a
great WrestleMania match.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
So w B go to be in the cabinet very
soon in this administration. You can list them all. They're
all this, mister T, Johnny knox.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yeah, all of them. So so. Pro wrestling and celebrities
always mixed. So definitely for w c W. They always
brought in celebrities when they could. Shack had been involved
in years before. Uh, Dennis Rodman actually quite well. Dennis
Rodman fit in the w CW quite well as a
member of the nWo. Had a had a pay per

(01:23:30):
view match with Randy Savage. Uh, randomly h but he
was actually really good. I think he did. And then
there was a tag match. There was Diamond Dallas Page
and Karl Malone versus Hulk Cogan and Dennis Rodman. This
is at the time where like the Bulls and the
Jazz were like legitimate.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Like they were in the finals and we'll go risk
injury and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Go do this pro wrestling thing. Yeah, the night after
what was it was it Game six or something, I
don't remember where it was, but WCW happy to be
in Chicago, and Rodman in the middle of a playoff series,
just decided to go to w CW and on the
off day and play around. I think that he came
out on WCW the night after they won. The champion

(01:24:19):
won the title, NBA Title, NBA Finals. So they've always
played around with it. Jay Leno famously wrestled Hulk Hogan
in a tag team match in WCW as well, So
David R. Kent come to it too, David R k Look,
i'd have my little four into progressing. I don't want
it on your limit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
So that's different.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
But I actually got in the ring one time. I
saw on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
You saw it, I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Very impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Crowd went wild, crowd went mild. Let's be honest the
so I uh so, David ar Kent and WCW didn't
surprise me. Him being the world champion was kind of
a strange, a bit far.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Like you would think like as promotion he show up once.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah, maybe once or twice. Maybe he's like, you know,
pulls the referee out, or he's the manager, like he
has some.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Kind of some sneaky yeah for an object, for an object.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
So I believe it was Vince Russo, who was the
name of the rider at the time in w CW.
He was the lead rider for WWF for quite some
time and then he jumped ship to w CW, and
he was known for having kind of off the wall
ideas such as let's put Buff Bagwell's mom on a
forklift and call it a Judy Bagwell on a forklift

(01:25:34):
match let's let's have the San Francisco forty nine ers match,
Let's have Viagra on a pole, like, let's let's like, uh,
let's do all these weird kind of matches.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
He was a there's like a joke in the wrestling
circles about Vince Russo, who did have good contributions to
the world Pro Wrestling, but had a lot of silly
ones as well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
He was clickbait before there was clickbait.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Yeah, he was. It's like, oh, you got an idea,
put it on a pole. That was like what people
say about Vince Russo, just put it on a pole.
We'll have a flag on a pole match. We'll have
this on a pole match.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
He had the idea putting David Arquette in this title
match and make him the world champion. Big Swing, Big Swing,
And it was obviously crapped on by tons of wrestling
fans forever. And then there's an interesting part though of
this story. So David Arquette, this is a story not

(01:26:30):
many people know. David Arquette wins the title on Thunder
and he's in the locker room, and he's sitting there
with the title in the locker room and there's other
wrestlers around, and he's sitting staring at it, and a
wrestler who sits a couple seats down from him is
the aforementioned Booker T. And Booker's getting changed, getting ready to,
you know, go to the next place, make the next town.

(01:26:52):
And David Arquette turns to Booker and goes, hey, book
how many times have you won the world title? Book goes,
I've never won the world championship, and he said I
saw David Arqutt kind of melt in his seat a
little bit like what did I just do?

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
And the next week on television, David Arquette says, you know,
I shouldn't be the world champion. Someone like Booker T
should be the world champion. He says this on television,
and then a couple months later, Booker T becomes the
WCW World Heavyweight Champion at Bash at the Beach two thousand, which,
if you want to go down an interesting rabbit hole, Jeff,

(01:27:31):
there's a little documentary I'll send you on YouTube about
Bash of the Beach two thousand, because there's hul Cogan
was the champion, worked creative control, didn't want to lose
left kind of got fired on live television for real,
and then Booker was who wrestled earlier the night, was
thrown into another match on pay per view in the

(01:27:51):
main event for the title. It's very confusing. This always
real like he didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
That he was going you have to fight again, and hey,
not so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Not so fast clothes, so real life. You should watch
that Bash to the beach.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
So much improvisation that I don't think anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Has any idea, oh how much it goes in Even
the documentaries that I've seen, like Beyond the Mat they
talk more about how you can really.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Get hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
And but maybe they don't want that much out there
as far as the structure of actually writing and or
how much of it is made up on the spot.
But I find that very fascinating that that's that. It's
like improv comedy. It's just like, hey, I hope this
works out, and you have to worry about what your

(01:28:44):
partner's going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
There's so much trust there that they're not gonna suck
and make you look bad and you have to do
the heavy lifting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
But I'm sure that happens all the time too. We're
I don't want to go in with him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
He's just kind of bounces in. Well you hear about
that with any time towards to the end of Andre
the Giant's career, like he really wasn't doing much other
than showing up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Yeah, well yeah, but he couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, I'm not saying because bad guy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
He was broken.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Yeah, and you know he had that that that h
Agromegalle I think is what it's called the giantism. I
think he had a tumor on his pituitary gland which
made him not stop growing ever, which is a rough,
rough gig. But yeah, so that David Arket legitimately won
the w CW World Championship. And here's some is it
true trivia. Around the time of this movie's released, David

(01:29:34):
ar Kent made a string of appearances for WCW Television.
In lieu of getting paid any money to him from
w CW, he chose to give all of his w
CW earnings to the family of deceased wrestler Brian Pillman.
Brian Pillman, Yeah, Brian Pillman tragically died early during his
w w F run and so and so he gave

(01:29:54):
the money to his family, which is very nice. Lexus King,
son of Brian Pillman and now wrestling for the Martin
Landau's character is based on Here we Go, the legendary
wrestling coach Stu hart Heart was almost elderly, but still
strong and more skilled than people a fraction of his age.
As Landau's character is. Oliver, Platt accidentally struck Randy Savage

(01:30:17):
in the face during the filming of a fantasy scene.
The footage of the incident was shot over Randy Savage's
shoulder and could be seen in the blooper reel shown
during the closing credits.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I did see that, sure can It's you know it's
a good movie when there's bloopers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
According to David Arquette in a two thousand and seven
WWE dot Com interview, ww superstar Shane the Hurricane Helms
served as his stunt double. Martin Landau was replaced by
Jack replaced Jack Palins as Salvan dien So. Jack was
supposed to be the one. Look at that interesting. Scott
Cohn did all of his own stunts in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
And he's good looking.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
And he's good looking, eh, Scott con he is good looking.
During the filming of the tag team match at the
very beginning where you see Billy Kidman defeat Houve and
Tude Guerrera and Prince Iuka Ray Mysterio injured his knee.
That was a mascless Ray Mysterio in the movie. So
that's pretty interesting. Check this out. The way Jimmy King

(01:31:17):
lost the title when he was supposed to have won
is a spoof of the infamous Montreal screw Job at
WWF Survivors Series nineteen ninety seven, which Brett Hart was
supposed to have retained the title from Shawn Michaels, but
was heavily conspired against and lost in an unscripted manner.
David Arquette lost his father, Lewis Arquette, less than a
year after the movie's release. Lewis had his own wrestling

(01:31:38):
connection as the voice of Superfly Jimmy Snooka in Hulk
Hogan's Hulk Hogan Rock and Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Okay, let's see if there's anything else interesting here. Oh yeah,
so the character of Nigel Girl Sasha is based on
Kimberly Page. Kimberly Page was Diamond Dallas Page's real life wife. Oh,
there were plans to do. There were plans to do
a sequel to this movie, which never materialized.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
That's interest wouldn't have been ready to rumble with, like
Coming to America had the number two. It's very confusing, Aye,
when you talk about the bad Coming to America, go
it's the sequel, but Coming to America.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Let's see. Rose McGowan admitted she hated this movie and
didn't want to be in it, eventually giving in after
throwing the script in the trash three times. Well that
didn't come through.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
No, she looks like she's very excited to be there
and really gives it her all in her performance.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Let's see. Perry Saturn, one of the two men who
attacked Salbandini, had left WCW before the movie was out
in theaters. He would go on to the WWE by
January of two thousand to be a part of the Radicals,
and then later had a sidekick mop named Moppy. That's
very true. While David R. Kent and Rose mcgower love

(01:32:59):
interest in this film, they previously played siblings in the
Scream movie. That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
I didn't think of that. Yeah, So the scene, the
scenario of Jimmy King getting Screwed by Titus Sinclair was
also based on a real life issue between Eric Bischoff
and Rick Flair. Interesting, Okay, that's some of the Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
I would have liked more of that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
I think that's interesting. I think if you're gonna do that,
I don't know what's what's the ultimate wrestling movie. It's
tough because the wrestler is good, but the wrestler's depressing,
so I don't always want to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
But the Wrestler is the best wrestling movie.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
It's yeah, it's great, But have they made like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Or should somebody be writing it right now?

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Have they made the wrestling like doesn't need to give
away all the secrets, but kind of like this is
the world without it being so sad where you wonder
if the guy died at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Yeah, I mean that was a part of wrestling, right,
Wrestling in that era that the Wrestler depicts like that
is definitely something that you know, felt real to that era.
I think that a wrestling movie nowadays might be a
little bit different, but I think that that's still the
quintessential wrestling movie. I don't think that there's been one

(01:34:22):
better than that one. It's very, very difficult, And I
remember getting to tell Darren Aronofsky that because I just
felt like he could have been more exploitive in that
film and like really made it look like wrestling's trash,
But he doesn't make it feel like wrestling's trash. In
The Wrestler. He makes it seem like, yeah, they lead
a tough life, which is true the wrestlers of that

(01:34:44):
day did. But there's also like this, he feel like
he treats wrestling with real reverence in the film, like
like you understand why these guys put themselves through this
because they love it so much and it is something
to love, even though it has these difficult things that
happened to them during that time. That's when they were
working three hundred days a year and on the road
all the time. And Jake the Snake and Rowdy Piper.

(01:35:06):
I think there are a lot of good, uh, you know,
inspirations for what happened to Randy the Ram Now. Subsequently,
twenty years after this movie's release, David Arquette would release
a documentary film called You Cannot Kill David Arquette, where
he gets back into the pro wrestling world, competing in
several death matches and legitimate pro wrestling exhibitions, which I

(01:35:27):
remember during this time he almost died in a death
match where he got a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Good title, not a good title. I also's that's that's
just asking for trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Yeah, but interesting tidbit of trivia. Thanked in the credits
of You Cannot Kill David Arquette, Brad Gilmore. Brad Gilmore's
thanked in the credits.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
The boat.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
The boat's thanked in the credits. Not sure why you do?
Not sure why? Not sure why, but my name is
in the credits. Can't be a coincidence, and it's I'm
under pro wrestling promoters. They thank me under pro wrestling promoter.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Oh so you got a job and a credit?

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah you promote?

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Yeah, I guess technically yeah yeah, No, you're on screen
talent talent. I'm talent. I'm talent and a promoter.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
I'm all.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
I'm all in one. Let's go to Now we've done?
Is it true trivia? Okay? Is this movie better with
Jack Nicholson or Denzel Washington as the lead or do
we make them Gordy and Sean?

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
It becomes the bucket list. I'd have thought about that.
I was just gonna be bored and put uh Denzel
as Sinclair. But no, I like that better, like having
the elderly and like but but.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Like, okay if they're like in the peak of their youth, right, yeah,
Jack and Denzel story Ready to rule.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
So now we have a time machine, so it's like
it's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Jack Nichola said from Little Shepherd Horrors and Denzel from
Critical Condition.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
I like it, okay, how.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Those sanitation scenes would play. Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
You know I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
I don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Be Denzel in the in the I thinks I think
Denzel's Gordy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Denzel's Gordy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Okay, no, no, no, I'm sorry Jack Scory Jack Gordy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I want to see
Jack on that motorcycle fly into the ring. My dad
won't get won't get off my back. Terrible impression.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
I can't do an impression of either one of them.
And they're like two of the most impersonated and we
and we talk.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
About them every episode. We should have picked names of
like people we could impersonate. Should be like Jimmy Stewart
and much of man Ready Savage.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Okay, Now, let's do peak of their powers, the timeline
peak of their powers. So I'm gonna go through the
cast and you just tell me if this is the
peak of their powers or not. Okay, David Arkutt, Yes,
everybody else know, but yes, I think David Arkt for sure.
I just think that this was like during the time

(01:38:18):
where he was a huge star coming off a scream.
This is the peak of the Courtney Cox relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Yeah, hey, legg it flex so he Yeah, I don't
see him. I think he's great.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
I love David Arkkett.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
I think it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
I think he's quirky.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
I think he's a weird dude, and I like the port.
Don't see him being the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Anytime soon. Unless it was some like weird independent movie.
Certainly not a studio movie. But what's the studio movie anymore? No,
it's either a horror movie or a superhero movie.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
I watched a screener last night of a movie coming
out that I just won't say yet, but he is
in the movie, David Arquette Like in the movie. I
was like, oh, wow, hey, look there's David ar Kent.
Two movies, two movies in one night.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Double feature I did.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Yeah, because he does Scream Let's Go Scream two in
ninety seven, he does RPM and Free Money, Don't Know
those Never Been Kissed Muppets from Space in ninety nine,
then he does Scream three, Ready to Rumble in two thousand,
two thousand and one, he has three thousand Miles to
Grace Sland. That's an interesting movie, and then eight Legged

(01:39:23):
Freaks in two thousand and two. Then yeah, I mean,
I would say, I would say this is like in
the in the middle of his run. So this is
definitely now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
More nostalgia character of anything, because you know when he
came back for the Scream, came back.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Scream five, Yeah, four and twenty eleven, and then Scream
five and twenty two Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Although he is coming back in Subway, which is interesting.
Spoiler he died in Scream five, but he's coming back
somehow for the News. Yeah, Scream seven. But a lot
of people that died and Scream are coming back for
Scream seven.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Yeah, so maybe it's all early.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
The The plot has something with AI and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Voices from the past.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Okay, I'm down for it. Uh, Peak, Let's keep going
with Peak of their Powers, though Oliver Platt.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
Oh yeah, where's he been?

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Is he still doing stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Oliver Platt's last credit was last Year and Babes. He
played Bernie and Babes, Ernie and Babes. I'm a Mary
Friggin' Christmas. I'm looking through legends of oz Dorothy's return
X Men first Class. I remember he remember he popped
up an X Men first Class. That was twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Was he peaking more nineties or two thousand?

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Let's go back to the nineties real quick. Let's see. Okay,
let's go from Three Musketeers. He was an indecent proposal,
always kind of the funny friend A time to kill. Yes,
I hope they died Bulworth, doctor Doolittle, m By Centennial Man.
Then he did Ready to Rumb. Then let's see anything else.

(01:41:03):
I recognize Frost Nixon. He did Frost Nixon. That Loving
other Drugs. I remember that one as well. That is
the Jake Gillen, Hall and Hathaway vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
Has there ever been a Starr Oliver plot?

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
I don't think since then. This one. This is a
and he wasn't even top billing on this, but he
was second one the top.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
So this might have been this might be the peak.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
He's in The Bear. He's in that show, The Bear,
Uncle Jimmy. I haven't seen that show, but I know
a lot of people it's yeah. Oh and he got
a sag Award for that for a cast for outstanding
on not for an Emmy. So yeah, okay, I'd say
he's not. I think this is we're in a renaissance.

(01:41:51):
We're in a Platt renaissance, I think right now, Scott
conn I'd say no, not peak of his powers, because
he'd go on to do a lot bigger movies after
this and then even have like a memorable run on Entourage.
He's in Hawaii five. Oh, now.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
Landau on Entourage too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
I believe Landau was an Entourage.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
What is his character's line? His name is Bob? Is
that something that might interest you? He said, gosh, yeah, yeah,
I used to I used to watch. Yeah, let's see
Lewis Arquette, who was in this movie? Who is the Patron? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Yeah, uh yeah, the first one?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
He or Scream or Script two, no, scop.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
It was nice for him to be in this movie.
I'd say, you know, not peak of his powers here.
I think I think that was kind of prior to
Caroline Ray. I would say, no, right, I think that's Sabrina,
which Sabrina and also in the pilot of Curby Your
Enthusiasm in the same year, I believe, actually the year
before she was in a television special of Curby Enthusiasm.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Oh, respected by comedians a lot. Yeah, I don't know
if she's ever done for like the masses, what she
needs to do, what.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
She's done for the comics. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Let's see Joey Pants.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
I'd say no, no, but he's I don't think he's peaked.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
I think he's just always Joey Pants.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
He's just he's uh, he's just a plateau. I don't
think he has ups or downs.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
I think he's just always pants.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
I think you're right. I think you're right because he's
a good career to have, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
He's always working, he's always he doesn't need to be.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
And Joey Pants is the star of anything. He's just
he shows up and you go, okay, good, we're good,
Like you know you're in good hands.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Yeah, right, I like, I like. I like Joey Pants. Man,
I'm a big fan of Joey Pants. Let's see who else.
Martin Landau, I'd say, I'd say that this is coming
off of his peak.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Yeah, this is on the way out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
It is on the way out. It was on his
way out because you know, he won the Academy Award
finally for Edwood, like we talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Yeah, that was like peak two.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
That was that was his comeback.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
That was his comeback again.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
He got to work again, kind of like in a
Travolta way where now people saw him again and then
maybe he took too much, but look, he was happy
to be working again and almost a Belle laghostie kind
of way, just happy to be working.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Well, Like he wins an Oscar in ninety four and
then six years later he's sal Bandini and ready to rubble.
It's not like it was a great run there for Landowner.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
I'd like to point out that this was Brad's pick,
and that's what he said. As far as the call.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
I mean, look, if we go from winning an Oscar
being in the back of a Hummer Limo in a
hot tub with Booker T's wife, with Booker T's future wife,
future wife. Yeah, I was a big fan of the
Nitrol Girls, big, big fan, let's see, Okay, why I
don't know. Okay, here's an interesting one. Rose McGowan.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
When was Charmed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Charmed was one through six, so right after this, I
think that might have been peak.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Yeah, I think when was she with Marilyn Manson The
kind of had me in that run, probably at the
same time, So I didn't know who she was until
Scream that's ninety six, and then she got to be
the hot stuff there for a while with like Jawbreakers,
and yeah, she had a good run there in the
late nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
So this might be on her way up. But it's
not a good role for her.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
And when you say that she didn't want to do
it's it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Should have been that obvious that she was miserable. But
that did not surprise me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
I will say, looking at her things. She did Raid
or Rumble, and then we're talking about film credits that
she did Black Dahlia and six that was kind of
a big movie at the time. She was in Grindhouse,
both of them.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Oh yeah, she was yeah, more mainly uh the Robert Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
The Planet Terror Terror, but she was in Death Proof
Cherry Darling, and then she was in Machete, which is
another Robert Rodriguez.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
She did she not break up the Robert Rodriguez marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
I believe, But this.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Isn't a gossip show, but I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
I believe he was married to the woman who produced
all his films, Robert Rdriguez, and then she was Cherry
Darling and Grindhouse and then she kept like pupping up
and stuff. I think they had a relationship for a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
And I don't know. I don't want to say the
wrong thing about rosemacallan that you can't win.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
No, No, they were engaged at one point according to
a Wikipedia and then they split in nine Okay, okay there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
And maybe she wasn't the reason for the breakup, but
I believe that's the rumor.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
That was the rumor.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Yeah, that's just Austin, Texas gossip.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Well, I will say, respectfully to Rose McGowan, I don't
think peak of her powers. But she was throwing a
thousand in this movie. She looked great. She did, she
looked great.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
She Uh if Oliver Platt doesn't necessarily blend in with
the wrestlers, she did blend in with.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
The natural girls.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
She did.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
I agree with that A couple more here, Okay, change
the genre. Mm hmm, what would you change it to?

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Because I definitely thought the characters should be younger. I
decided to make Ready to Rumble At It ten eighty's
John Hughes movie and used the John Hughes character usual
actors in the roles. So Gordy is now Anthony Michael
Hall and Sean is now John Cryer, and John Candy plays.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Jimmy King, and Paul Gleeson the principal from Breakfast Club
is Sinclair.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
And then a couple actors from the era that weren't
necessarily they weren't to John Hughes movies, but I thought
they could fit in nicely. Jamie Gertz in the Sasha role.
She could be like a little edgy and she will
steal a square of.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
Toilet paper for your Sidefeld fans. She's also star in
Lost Boys and then.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Oh for sal I decided if it was made in
the eighties, it would be very fun casting to go
with Burgess Meredith and just flat out and do his
Rocky Mickey character, but have him be training John can
And as Jimmy King, and then same story happens. Just
all it takes place at Shermer high school.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
Okay, First off, both recent alums of The Collection podcast,
John Chrier and Anthony Michael Hall. You can check those
interviews out. I will say this, I wouldn't change the
genre because I think I like it in the comedy sector. Sure, yeah,
allegedly comedy sector. But I'm gonna update the cast for

(01:49:28):
twenty twenty five. Okay, cool, you ready, Yep, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go high brow. Okay, So you remember how
Franco and he's not my pick. I remember James Franco
was both like Academy Award level actor and would do
silly comedy movies. Sure, he had that energy, that playful
energy about him. Okay, so check this out as Gordy,

(01:49:56):
I'm casting Timothy Shallome his partner in crime, Tom Holland.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Okay, it's hard for me to tell them apart, but okay.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Shalla Man Holland top level. Okay. Sinclair is John Ham.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Nice also alumni from the Collection, I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Also an alumni, Yeah, Collection alumni, John Ham Yes, of course,
of course, of course I'm putting John Ham as Sinclair.
The wrestlers in the movie or ww WW Superstars excuse me.
So the main bad guy is the current seventeen time
world champion John Cena, and then the good guy who
tries to help the Jimmy the King character is going

(01:50:45):
to beat Roman reigns. Jimmy the King is going to
be played in this film, right, in this movie by
none other than Booker t just a little just thrown
it out there because he was King Booker. He was
King Booker. Let's make it real. Let's make it real.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
And the houses acting chops pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
He's in a horror movie. I think I've told you
about before. You need to check it out. Pennance Lane.
Check out Pennant's Lane. It's okay. He could he could
pull it off. He could definitely pull it off.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Does he want to play and washed up the alcoholic whistler?

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Probably not? Yeah, but I believe him as one does range,
but you would show him some range, you know, believe
him in the wrestling aspect where I didn't believe Oliver
Platt and the Sashia character Rose McGowan played by Kylie
Jenner will stunt casting there because of the shallow May
relationship makes sense, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
And hopefully where it doesn't become an affleck Jennifer Lopez
thing where everyone's sick of them by the time this
version comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
I think they were getting close. So we better make.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Ready to Rumble twenty twenty five. Yeah, immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Yeah, Ready to Rumble two k twenty is what we
would call it, you know what I mean? Best use
of food or drinking? Ready, best use of food or drinking?
The movie? Is it not the Purple Slurpy?

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
I wrote slushy, but I think it's the same.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Or is it when he gives Rose McGowan the bananas
instead of flowers, I'll go slushy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
I didn't like the the Rose McGowan romance. Yeah, that
bothered me. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
I like when I like when he's like, buenos nachos, right,
and then she's like, oh, do you speak uh Spanish?
Took it in high school several times or something. And
then and then she goes, are you fluent? And he's
like no, I feel fun.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
Gosh, but you have to look forward to Shallow Oh
come on.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Shallow Shadow. May you can do it? Yeah, let's see.
Did you do a end credit song?

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Okay, I didn't get to it. So what's your in
credit song?

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
So I was inspired by.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
The Motley Crue song that the Nitro Girls, I believe
dance two Girls Girls is a classic, so I wrote I.
Usually we're supposed to go nineties and have it be
like a nineties and credit song, but I decided to
go eighties and do a song called watch Out for Sasha,
and I just have a verse and a churus, but

(01:53:27):
it goes a little something like this Watching for Sasha.
So imagine the Motley Crue guitar riff, and it says
that she's dancing so.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Raw, which is not that's wwe, but it's a little wink.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Dancing so raw and chasing the fame. She ain't on
the card, but they all know her name. She knows
just how to make you feel like a man. But
she's got herself a scheme and you ain't part of
the plant. She's fire on stage, got you locked in
a cage. You'd better watch out for some Sha. She's

(01:54:00):
got Nitro moves that'll be your doom. You better watch
out for Sasha. She'll make you her king till you
feel her sting.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Watch out for Sasha.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
That's it. I probably on the new song, the new
Ready to Rumble two.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
K five, and this is about so you know, we're
dapping it to kind of you know, I like you
and I.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Don't even like that character, but she inspired times people
you don't like inspire.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Art the I'm gonna go home and sleep with my
wife award for who won the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
Booker T.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Booker T won the movie right because he actually ended
up finding his future mate, so he took her and Charmel.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
All behind the scene. Yeah, behind because of behind the scenes.
I like when that happens. It's you know, sometimes that's
the story is. It's often like you know, the movie
that didn't necessarily knock everybody's socks off, but they met there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
It's also interesting because we were talking about Late night
TV before we started rolling and Conan O'Brien met his
wife on an episode of Late Night with Conan O'Brien
when they brought a Houston mattress salesman named Hilton Koch,
who was known for taking a chainsaw to the mattresses
saying that they're cutting prices in half, to an ad

(01:55:19):
agency in New York to come up with a new
marketing campaign. One of the ad execs was Conan's future wife,
Liza I believe, and also Hilton Koch was a huge
sponsor for a long time of Reality of Wrestling, bringing
it back to wrestling. So look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
How does one when you're doing a sketch, because I
never had a game, like, how do you turn that
from Mike?

Speaker 3 (01:55:42):
Hey, we're working together on the sketch too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
I guess when your celebrity, you could said your person, Okay,
you go get that person's phone number.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
Yeah, that is see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
I don't know how you would do that. I wouldn't.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
It's not my I could ever been anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Yeah, it's interesting. I think that, Uh, it'd be interesting.
It'd be interesting to know how that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
How do people in twenty twenty five even like how
do you approach that?

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Yeah, cause to people that get together at work that
people work in the office, how could.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
You They don't work in us, They don't even work
in the office anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
Yeah, that's true. It's all like on zoom, like, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Do you like to slip into someone's chat?

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
Is that dangerous?

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
And just try to be flirty? That's not okay?

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Sure, this meeting is so boring, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
Lol, laughy eyes, you know, and then what are you
doing after work? And you put the side eye emoji.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
That's how they do because me neither just kidding. I
wasn't asking.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Marty, something's got to be done about your kids. Award
for what happens the next day, Oh oh.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
I had lots of that. Go do your thing. I've
got that rid here somewhere, well to me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
We find out that when they ride off into the sunset,
in my opinion, they're they're riding off in the monro
and we're gonna see Jimmy King back with the title
on Monday nightro with his posse, and Diamond Dallas Page
comes out says, you had a really great night. You
were the better man, Jimmy King. They embrace in a hug.
We think that Diamond Dallas Page has turned, you know,
to the good side, and he sees the reverence that

(01:57:18):
we need for Jimmy King. And as soon as Jimmy
King starts to walk off out of the ring, Dallas
pulls his wrist closer to him. Bang, Diamond Cutter spits
on Jimmy King and says, there's still only one king
in the w CW and you're looking at him bang right,
and then we start their next three months of matches.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
All I had was that Gordy becomes a.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Like a big car wrestler, big card wrestler, and.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Then he realizes how embarrassing that he took the belt
when someone like Booker T had never had it before,
and he immediately goes on TV and says I should
never even be in wrestling and he becomes a wrestling
school coach instead.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
I don't know where I got that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
And then finally, sequel prequel Prestige TV. I think we
are talked about a sequel was in the works, but
what would you like sequel prequel Prestige Television.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
I would like I'm going to tie it into if
Sometimes we talk about if we recast the movie with
like Saturday and a five people or whatever, I would
I'm want to do that in the fantasy world where
it's like a reboot, but using cast members for past
to president maybe and some that aren't even alive anymore.
But just I thought of if this were an SNL movie,

(01:58:39):
who would play some of these characters? So for my reboot,
Gordie is Chris Farley mmm in his prime, just for that,
I believe he would think it's real, and I believe
he would commit, and I believe his father would give
him a hard time like in Tommy Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
For Sean, I like Bill Hayter.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
I like they'll hate her in anything, but at least
he could just be kind of a smarmy version.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
I like it. For Jimmy King, I've got Will Ferrell
because Will Ferrell.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
For Sasha, I have christin Wig Okay, because she could
at least make something more interesting with that. For Titus Sinclair,
one of my favorites of all time, also no longer
with us Phil Hartman and then as sal Bandini in
Old Man Makeup doing a funny voice.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Data Carvey and still Sting Sting. I would not change.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Sting has always got to be sting sting.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
Just retire's going to have to be no, not at
least going to have to come back for either the
reboot in My Fantasy World or for the Netflix ready
to run Bowl series because Netflix has wrestling now so
they can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
So further reading for this, I would say definitely check
out You cannot kill David Arquette wrestling with Shadows and
The Dark Side of the Ring Bashed the Beach two thousand.
That would be my further reading for anybody out there
who wants to dive more into the world of w CW,
Pro Wrestling, Screwed Jobs, and David Arquette in wrestling, those

(02:00:08):
would be my recommendations for you all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
What's the best wrestling documentary you've ever seen?

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
It's a great question. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
I don't even need to answer. I just wanted the validation.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
No, that is a great question. Uh, it's got to
be Wrestling with Shadows. It's got to be okay, and
I want And there's a there's a long time conspiracy
about Wrestling with Shadows because it takes place right when
Brett Hart is signing a new deal with WWE WWF

(02:00:46):
at the time, and then it tracks him through the
issue of Montreal into signing with WCW. There happened to
be a documentary crew at this time, not produced by
the WWE. This is some Canadian guy produced the movie.
Long time wrestling lore is that the documentary is a work,

(02:01:08):
that it's not really a real documentary, and that they're
working like they recreated. No, that it all happened at
the time. It all happened for real at the time,
but like they were, they were working us in the
footage that we saw. This is a long time conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (02:01:27):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
I want to see the documentary about the documentary, then.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
I'm sure there's got to be one eventually. But there
is a there a long time conspiracy because at one point,
and this isn't a spoiler in the documentary, Brett Hart
goes under cover in a secret meeting with Vince McMahon
and he wears a wire. This really happens in the documentary.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
Okay, that sounds like a wrestling plot.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
It sounds like a wrestling plot, is it? Not sure?
We're not sure. We don't know. We really don't know.
But Jeff, the question finally comes to you. Two things. One,
would you recommend somebody checking out Ready to Rumble? The
line stolen from the Michael Buffer announcement at the end
of the movie, let's get ready to rumble. It's time,

(02:02:13):
We're ready to rumble? Would you recommend it? And what
is your next pick?

Speaker 3 (02:02:20):
I would not recommend ready to Rumble.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
I'm not even gonna sugarcoat it. I appreciated it in
a weird way, but I'm a weird viewer so and
also I was assigned it, so I don't know. I
said at the beginning, this was a time where I
went and saw almost everything.

Speaker 3 (02:02:40):
I realize now if I saw the trailer for this
back then, Why Ready to Rumble was not one of
the ones that I went to see.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Just was. I don't know if it was the I
don't know, but not for me, but I appreciated it
for the nostalgia and yeah, I felt you know, if
you want to go down late nineties early two thousand
fever dream and you haven't seen something before, chances.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
Are this is it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Yeah, so I say that it's it's one that if
you haven't seen it, I just think that in your
wrestling fan it's worth checking out for the wrestling tidbits
of it. It is such a two thousands movie, so
you have to go in with that mindset and know
that the comedy is going to be poop huber and
gay jokes. I think even the R word by pop

(02:03:34):
in our word runs around there a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Yeah, it's it's one of those like huh, what a time.
Although if you ever visit Boston, Massa Choosett's it's we're
still there so you can hear all those.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
Well, I think I think today some of that is
on its way back. Are never left Boston night.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
We've taken a trip down that road many times.

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Yeah, this one we tiptoed.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
But this is it, man, this is a very interesting
rady to rumble. So that's that's my pick. That's pick
number three for me. But what is pick number three
for Jeff Smith?

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
All Right?

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
I have struggled with this because I was thinking of
going reactionary again because I have a predetermined list from
when we started, and then I skewed last time with
north By Northwest, and I was thinking about doing it again.
I even texted you last night with a question and
you had not seen it, and I almost did it,
but I decided I'm not going to go reactionary. I'm

(02:04:30):
going to go back to the original list. Okay, It'll
not be the movie I texted you last night, although
I recommend you see check that one out.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:37):
I think it's on Prime, Okay for anybody listening, it's Diggstown.
I asked him about Diggstown, which is a nineties movie
with James Woods, Oliver Platte, young Heather Graham, and it's
a fun movie about boxing and con artists and the South.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Love it all three my favorite things I know.

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
So that was close. But I'm going to go back
to the list.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
We are finally going to the eighties, and we are
going to one of my favorite years of all time,
nineteen eighty five, with a movie starting a young John
Cusack called Better Off Dead.

Speaker 1 (02:05:12):
Oh okay, I've not seen it, as as is the
rule here, Better Off Dead is next, Better Off Dead
on pick six, and we will be six episodes in
at the conclusion of Better Off Dead. Halfway through we
might need to do like a little halfway point and
see like where we stand on everything, and maybe we
got range.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
I'd love to see how this all we can tie
this all together, because we're just we're.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
All over the map, which is picks, all over the
map with these picks, and we know what and like
the thing is, long term listeners of clude movie podcast
or this show, they know at least I have one
more pick that everyone knows what the movie's.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
Going to be.

Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
So terrible teas because I have two's coming I'm playing with,
but there's one that everyone knows is coming.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
So When is it coming is going to be the
question the twist. Maybe it never does, it may not,
it may not, it may not, but anyway that is.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
We've just been on a collision course for no reason.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Oh there you go. That is Jeff Smith. My name
is the Beat, Brad Gilmour. This has been the Pick
six podcast talking about two thousand's ready to rumble and
we'll be back next time with better off Pick six.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
Oh Bri, what have you done now?

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