Coach Les & Big Tank EP29

Coach Les & Big Tank Talk with NFL Agent Allan White about the NFL Sanders,The NBA Playoffs and More LETS goooo

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome the coach last Big Tank live from the World
Class Supreme Barbershop. Dude, I think I'm gonna have to
open me a shop up and just call it Supreme.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know, you're welcome to do what you want.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, I don't know how to cut but I don't
know how to cut hair.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
What's going on, world? You know, let's say whatever he
wanted to say. I say what I'm gonna say. But
y'all know what it is, Big Tanks over here on
cold Facts, baby.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
World Class Supreme Barbershop.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't know. The Supreme was never in there. In
talking I started, you know, we start doing the show
here and I put it in there.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're keeping it world class. He can make it whatever
he tried to make it.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hey, man, a lot of stuff going on in in
uh the basketball universe.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, a few things going on in the basketball verse.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Man. You and I both have our respective teams, even
though they in the finals, one on one side, one
on the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, it would be beautiful if we played, if
Minnesota played.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
New York and the night, Yeah, it would be sweet.
I think it would be sweet, especially with the trade
that happened earlier in the year before the beginning of
the season. Yes, you know what I'm saying, y'all thought
y'all got the big end of the deal, and then
you know what I'm saying, Minnesota had to slowly and
methodically put together.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well here here's the thing that's wishful thinking on my
part to say that we were playing y'all because I
picked New York to be there, but I picked okay
See to be on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well you know, hey, God say, I can make a
mouth say anything. You know I know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, well, you and I already have a bet.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I bet you before the series ended with Okay Seeing
Denver that whoever won, whether whether the Nuggets Okay See
they're gonna beat they're gonna be Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You said that, you said that.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
That did come out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yes, I let it come out of your mouth, and
I let you make the bet. I remember you come
up in and making that foolish bet.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh Man, lots of stuff, lots and lots of stuff
going on, but that that's the big thing. The Nuggets
we're in Denver, Man, what what is? What do the
Nuggets need to do to get better? Because even though
they made it to the conference fight. Well, contract contract
with who? No contract? You know what contract mean?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Right? Not?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I don't enlighten me.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, they mean they should failed to exist. They no
longer hear.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
The Nuggets, should no longer move to Seattle. I'm not
a big Nuggets fan either. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Not a Nuggets fan at all.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
But man, you don't. I mean, it ain't nothing naked
to do. It ain't gonna they ain't gonna get no better, brother.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, they not.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Should they give it a jamal or should they give
it an MPJ?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They should get rid of a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, really, honestly, I would say that those are the
only two.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I can't. I really can't give you an honest opinion
on that because I didn't like what they did. I mean, look,
look what they did with an assistant coach. You know
what I'm saying. I thought they would have did a
whole lot better.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You mean, they would be ramped up, they would be
ready to play if they had just.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Kept Mike Malone. Okay, fire the GM keep Mike Malone.
Hold up, man, hey, he my lame dup coach. I'm
going to run him through the you know, through the playoffs,
and that's it. You see what I'm saying. I think
he would at least got you to the Western Conference Finals.
You think I think they would have beat Oklahoma City easily.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So Adaman didn't play enough player. I'm thinking he didn't
play enough players off the bench. But when you look
at Malone, he would have did the same.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Thing, right. Hey, there were a lot of things that
they could do, you know what I'm saying. And the
one thing that they that I didn't think they did
right was, you know what I'm saying, find the coach.
You fired a coach with three games left in the
season and going into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
You're already fighting for you already.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Man, what are you trying to do? Man, you're trying
to lose this thing of life.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You know what? But we obviously we don't know what
was going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It had to find the scenes, are not You don't
fire a guy with three games left and then going
to the playoffs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's my
man said, Man, Hey, yeah, it's bad. You know what
I'm saying, I'm like, what are they doing? And then

(04:31):
they talking about such and such, don't like he don't
like Uh a Malone and uh Jackets ain't getting along.
You know what I'm saying. What's going on with that?
You know that was the big thing.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That was But that's why I said it had to
because they're not getting along unless Joker went to the owner.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I could care who he goes to. I'm still the coach.
I'm still the coach. This is the way we're going.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And that doesn't work anymore. That doesn't That does not
work in any pro school anymore. I don't care no exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
This is what it is. That's why I ain't buying
a coach with three games left. You know what I'm saying.
I'm an old school. Hold that money need to be
old school.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
That's that's got nothing.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
You know what I'm saying. You're talking about all this
that money.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Old school, that's got nothing from green Backs.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
We got from Walmart's old school players. You don't make
that players, Josh Franky, But did the dumbest thing I said, Man,
I don't know what's wrong with this.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Players run the league's all leagues players. It's got nothing
to do with the coaches. The coaches are just a
part in the shape of the game. That's well, you know, like,
I know what you said.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
As I've said before on there, I said, man, players
win games, coaches lose. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying.
The players don't lose no games. The coaches always lose.
You see what I'm saying. And that's just the you know,
that's the biggest synapts.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, there's a there's a few things I took from it,
I know. So the one thing I really didn't like
was to hear the press conference and to hear Gordon say,
we need to have more than one day off in
between two games, brother, because you got hurt. You want
more than one You want to more than one day off. Well, well,
the other team had to do the exact same thing

(06:17):
he had to. They had to play that next day. Everybody,
everybody plays, so everybody that right there, brother, is not
a good enough excuse, and for him, I wouldn't expected
that from him. But then that also goes to what
I think is going on with the Nuggets when I
say that these players running everything and that made us everything.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
So you said inmates running asylum.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
We shouldn't say that, but yeah, I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well, that's not what it is, though, what do you
think it is? I'm gonna be honest with you. The
owners put themselves in this situation. It's just like I've said.
I think I said this was a couple of months ago.
I said, Man, when was the last time you heard
the owner talking about, well, let me rework a deal
so I can keep my player on my team.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
When was the last time you've seen the ownership go say, hey, man,
we're gonna rework ideal. You know what I'm saying, I
break break up idea and reap because I want to
keep this guy on my team.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
You know how long ago there were that somebody's actually
did something like that.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I ain't seen no own to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I would say, Jerry Jones did some stuff like that
back in then.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
He's never huh, man, ain't nobody went outside the collective
bargaining agreement too?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, you said, I'm talking you saying outside of collective bargaining?
I ain't.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'm just saying, yeah, hold on, ownership, ain't saying, man,
hold on, man, I'm gonna take a less piece of
the pie and gonnahead pay this guy. Oh no, well,
I'm gonna go ahead now, I tell you my boy,
George stein Broner said, Man, look, man, I don't care
about the luxury tax. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
I'm gonna pay the luxury tax anyway, y'all just gonna
take it all over head out of out of our uh,

(07:50):
out of our shared agreement. That's what George sting bron did,
he said, And I'm gonna pay everybody. That's why he
did that.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
You know, No, I agree, I agree, Yeah, I agree.
I didn't like what Aaron Gordon had to say. Didn't
like what jokers. Joker right now in Denver.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Is the pope. He he he runs it.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
He is instead of running the Vatican and running the world,
he runs the Denver Nuggets. So whatever is gonna happen
out of Denver is gonna come out of Joker's mouth.
So that means if they get rid of Westbrook, it's
gonna be because Joker says it's okay to get.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Rid of, you're not gonna get rid of. But they
ain't got to worry about that because he was on
the one.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
He's on the one. But what I'm saying is everything
from here on now is going through Joker. I don't
know who the new head coach is gonna be. Don't
know who the new GM is gonna be. But if
they were having problems with the GM and the head
coach with Joker, they're gonna bring in somebody that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Be friendly with Joking.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, they might call me.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, they're in trouble because you're not gonna listen to Joker.
You're not gonna listen to Gordon.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Hey, once I got my contract attack, I'm not a tripp.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
So they can fire you next week many find.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Twenty four hours later. Just give me much left. They
ain't draw on that Mond.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay, but wen, I'm gonna put in a petition for you.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, put me in, put me in the pot.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm gonna put in.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Put me in the pot. Coach Less said, Man, gonna
have five, get me gonna high coach tank.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you think they keep Adaman?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't know. It's a hard thing to do to
keep Adam right right now? Man, If the thing is,
do Adaman wants the job?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, you want to head coaching job.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't know if he wants that.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Let me tell you something, any job.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't know if he wants that job. Bad. It's
a bad job. It looks like a lot of it's
a bad job. I'm gonna tell you what made it
a bad job. You had the owner of that five
guy with three games left in the regular season, no
matter what was going on in the background. Once again,
I'm not I'm not gonna go work for well, I'm
gonna work for him for the money as long as
the money, right, I'm going to let me say that first,

(09:51):
But otherwise, no, I ain't no reputable coach gonna come
over there say man, I'm gonna come work for you.
And you couldn't call up a guy like Mark Jackson
be like, man, man, I need you to come fix this.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
That that's what I was going. That's why I was going.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
You understand what I'm saying. I need you to come
fix this.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's why I was going.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Next, But it's not a fixable job, and they're not
gonna be in the championship.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well, it's not fixable about it though?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's not okay? Well, okay, how do you fix that job?
What do you what are you gonna get another? A
world championship fixes that job? Right? Because the last guy
won a world championship? Right?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh, yes, right, that team that didn't play anybody and
want a ship. They still want to ship. They still
want to whatever you call it, they still want to.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
They want it. You can put an asterisk on it
and there all that the thing to win the rafters.
They can say whatever they want to say about it.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, I'm gonna say that championship.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh, it's a ship.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Not a fan, it's a ship. Just show we clip
not a fan. I'm not a fan. I'm making sure
that this is said. I'm not a fan, not a
fan of what the no guts. Make sure we say
that right, the no guts.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm gonna let you say that.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Now, oh, now you got somebody over there. You know
what I'm saying. All my friends, I got friends that
work for the Nuggets. I know, guts.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
No, you've always called him, You've always know what is.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Come on, man, I gotta beat me.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh no, you're never gonna.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Not be you. I'm gonna be to you. Never called him,
no man, I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Call them no gus. I call him the Nuggets.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't like. Well, let's move it on.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
But but listen, I'm not a fan. Okay, you know that.
You know I'm not a fan.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't know. Man, Sometimes I be feeling like you're
a fan. Man, I feel like you be feeling undercover.
You know what I'm saying, Alan, what you think with
him and something like that.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
You've never heard, No, you've never heard me say. You've
never heard me say one thing about Yes. Oh man,
hey w n b A they kicked off this past week,
yes man, Yeah, your girls getting to it, dude. I

(11:55):
tried to watch. I tried to watch Indiana and Chicago.
It was it was brutal.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Oh man, it was a hell of a game. And
then you know, my girl love. You know what I'm saying.
They kind of got into it.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, when well, when Kaitlyn Clark grabbed Barbie.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
They putting some stuff to it. Man, they putting some
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
When they were doing that to Caitlyn Clark, the whole world,
including the I'm not giving any other shows any credit.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't look at no white and black, no, no, know.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Everybody was talking about how they're roughing her up, they're
doing her wrong.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
She just did something.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I haven't heard any pushback on it, right, no pushback.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
She did it to angel Rees.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah. Yeah, she she's the one who bothering folks nothing. Now.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I hope she's ready for what's coming because now the
rest of the teams now it's a it's an open
open uh warring out on her for a rest.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, you know, people gonna get real physical with her.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh yeah, and she can't say anything.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
People gonna get real physical with her. Not you, Finn.
You gonna see. You're gonna see the more and more
they get more physical on her. They you're gonna see
some get right.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I watched a little bit last night of What's Los
Angeles and uh.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
The Sparks and the Sparks and the links.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Minnesota, Yeah, I watched a little bit of that last night.
Minnesota look good right now. I think their favorite to
win it all.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I didn't I tell you.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Did take that? Who did I take? I took Vegas.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I gave you, Yeah, I gave you Vegas. That's what
I'm saying. You wanted Vegas. I said, hey, Minnesota distance
champions due after watching it, mother, I know, let me
guess up. Let me say that. The reason why I
said I gotta take Minnesota right because I looked at
the draft and they traded play first round picks and
things like that. You know what I'm saying. You know
when you see when teams trade first round picks, you

(13:43):
see that, hey, we don't really need nothing right now. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. We confident where we at.
They got they got the Coach of the Year and
Challe Reid. You know they gonna be really good, you
know what I'm saying. So I just knew that they
they had they things still intact, and I'll be I'm
a switching. I like Asian Wilson. I think she's a
great player, but I think the better she's a man.

(14:07):
I'm trying to tell you. This is what I say.
I'll be watching the game's now.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Here's the thing. I'm gonna tell you what happened with
me with that. I watched that. I watched that and
saw that they traded away, and I think that's what
threw me off. I was like, they just gonna pretty
much stay in tackle what they have. Yeah, well what
they had was really good, and I guess I did
not pay attention. I made the best of the bettest done.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
But I don't think New York gonna be back. Either's
gonna be good though. Well, I think I watch.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
New York beat Vegas.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
That was Saturday. Yeah, that was I watched them beat Vegas.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
That was one. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Actually a really good game.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
It was.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It was a good game. But I will say that
that Vegas is losing some pieces that.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Left that that Plumb leaving help.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Plumb had thirty seven a couple of nights ago against
the new team.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, had I watched it?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
She had thirty seven a couple of weeks ago. Uh, yes,
you hears that. No, that's cool. Uh but you what
you did? Man, chewing on the watch?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, man, that's you man, not wrapping them up? I
told them all up. We always talk about hold on,
but were good. Y'all hear me, everybody, Yeah, but I
didn't hear y'all.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Hold on, hold on, don't put that jacket on my back.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I didn't touch I.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Didn't touch your headst Brother. I wrapped it like you
wanted and it's sitting there like you want it. So no, man,
are you gonna try to put that jack on my back? Man?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
All right? Man?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
All right?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
We straight were backing again. Yeah, we're back again.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So yeah, I had somebody call me and tell me
I love the fact that you guys talk so much
women's college basketball.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's my cousin and her daughter played basketball in college.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
And I said, yeah, I said, we do. I said,
here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Me and Tank can sit at home in our separate
homes and get bored and we'll watch uh ski soball, Oh,
no question.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
The OTOE eight. Hey, they don't That's what I'm saying.
They don't know about us watching the eight. We'll be
sitting back watching the eight, watching uh you know what
I'm saying, corn hole, all of that. Whatever, it might
be good.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah. If I'm sitting in the house and nothing else
is on, Yeah, I'm doing that, dude.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I was sitting at the house yesterday and I started
studying a little bit. I told you, I've been in
class the past couple of days. I was about to
walk down there and watch the Rockies, because you know,
I love baseball more than anything else. I was just
gonna walk down there and just watch it because I
don't care about them.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know, you was about to go watch the worst
team in baseball. And everybody know I said it on
the show. I said, I don't think they're gonna lose
a hundred games. Yep.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
That was before the season starts.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh man, I mean these dudes probably didn't lost about
thirty five games already.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Think they only had no they Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
They killing men. They making me look bad.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Seven or eight, seven or eight wins?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
They making me look bad. Did you see my twins
run off thirteen in the road.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Though, here's the thing with Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
With the Twins, come on, the Twins are one of
the best teams in the regular season, meaning even if
they having a bad year, they find a way to
rebound and get there.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
And then for some reason.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
We run up against them stanky not.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Not really even that you start getting injuries.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, but we run up against them stankies, and we
can't with Dan, we can't do what we need. Man,
do you have But have you looked at that division?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh yeah, Oh no, I'm giving every.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Team, every team in that division. Detroit got the best
record in baseball. Yep, all right, And then you look
at Twins, Kansas City, and Cleveland, all those guys, all
of those guys are a half game within the wildcar.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Every team in the division is a half game within
the wildcard. This is the best division in baseball. Usually
I would say it's the AL West. But you know
what I'm saying this year, I gotta give it to
the Central Uh for now, I mean right now. What
I'm saying Right now, Man, through fifty games, you gotta say, hey, man,
look they kicking.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
But through fifty games, through.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Fifty games they kicking. But that division is kicking butt
over there.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
The Rockies.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's sad. That's that's horrible.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I still love baseball and here I love baseball too,
you know the moment.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
The the Montforts when people always say they don't they
they know people people like you and I you know, you.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Know, they need to reach out. You know what I'm saying.
They need to get a hiring committee and say, man,
look man, what can we do to you know to
fix this hold? But let me say, pay me and
I'll help you. There. You see you can't be cheap.
Now you pay me and I can help you fix this.
I think they and we're gonna start. Huh, We're gonna start.
I'm gonna look at everything y'all got gone. Trust me,

(18:47):
you know what I'm saying. I know that the Andy mcpheil.
You know how to how to do that type deal.
You know what I'm saying, But you're gonna pay me
to help you fix it. I ain't doing nothing for free.
Yeah nothing.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well basically what they say in your country was nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
But basically what they're paying people is nothing. That's why
nobody's coming there. This dude.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
If they say they need.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Five pictures, he goes out and get five pictures, but
not pictures of quality.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
He just adds something to the roster man.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Hey, what he what he does is he's doing doing
it by the words of you know what I'm saying.
He wants you know, quantity over quality. Yep, you know
what I'm saying. He's doing it by the nambers like that,
and that's sad, but you know, they gotta they gotta
do something. Sell the team, sell to the sell the
team if you really want to put a winner, and

(19:38):
never do that because there's too much money, too much money, collect,
too much money in it.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Collective bargaining still gives them as much money into collective
bargaining as the Yankees and the sock So that's everybody
get the slice of that, everybody.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Even so they're not.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Selling the team. No, that's a no. I would McGregor's square.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But all I want to do is win. See you
know that that's what That's what I liked about. You
know what I'm saying about Steinbrenner. You know, cared about man.
All I want to do is win. You know, we
gonna win, and you know, and he made sure that he.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Gave us our day.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
All those guys in football, it's a different thing.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Why you say that it's about winning.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, it is about winning, but you know, sometimes
no matter how much you pay, you ain't always gonna win.
Oh no, No, you're right, you see what I'm saying,
because football is a different type of deal.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah it is. You still got to have the talent.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Still, you got to have the talent, and then you
got a lot of these dudes who you know, I mean,
you know, Allen's an NFL agent, you know, you know,
you got these guys who man thirteen years in the league,
and you know what I'm saying, he just snuck up
in there and and got a fifteen million dollar contract
knowing he on his last leg, you know what I'm saying,
And he ain't he ain't gonna help the team work
for nothing. You just you know what I'm saying, you

(20:54):
just ripped everybody in on the whole you know, on
the whole scale of things bad. You know what I'm saying.
You should have retired a year or two ago. Well,
you know, And that's the way the stuff goes sometimes.
What you think about that, Alan, how people just rip off?
Allie ain't gonna say nothing about that, you know, you know,
you know what he's gonna say. He gonna say, Man, hey,

(21:14):
they cut the check, you got your.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
You that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
NFL agents are the lowest pay in the industry anyway.
Mm hmm a right, three and the s R A
is one and a half by default and you have
to now make them thanks to grow free, sign a
auditional agreement agreeing to the other one and a half
percent to get to the maximum three percent. So mm

(21:45):
so yeah, it's all about going after the maximum amount
of dollars. Yeah, no matter how it affects the team or.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Anything, it should be that way anywhay. You should shouldn't
care about the team, should care about your player, right.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, what you're coming on the ownership PERPETI.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, I'm just saying you should just care about the player,
because I'm sitting here right now thinking about my guy
and I'm texting them as we talk because i haven't
talked to him in a while. But uh, that's that's
what every agent should do. But but here's the thing. Alan,
you say that the NFL, on the NFL scale, you're
only getting three percent. You guys can ask for more

(22:24):
than three percent. I'm talking about because you're asking it
from the player.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, this is the thing. No, you cannot. You can't
hold the NFL needs to strike hold on tank.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
You can't ask your your guy that you're representing for
more than three percent.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, you cannot. As an agent.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
You cannot because you are certified by the National Football
Players Association.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Okay, enlighten me.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Is that in basketball too?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Because I know in basketball there's basketball, MLB, NHL. They
don't have the limits set regulated by their players association
like the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Okay, Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Because thinking about the lady that in charge of Jalen Hurts,
did she come from Jay Z's camp.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I think she is, though, the one that's with Jalen Hurts.
I think I think she's with Rock Nation she's not
making no, five.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Percent, it's making more.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Nobody makes that. No, No, she's making more than that.
She's making more than.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Five unless it's off of marketing deal.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Oh okay, marketing.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Deals and marketing deals is outside of the NFL country
standard representation agreements. Okay, okay, marketing deals, you can charge
up to twenty that's that's usually the going rate a.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Marketing bills is twenty percent.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Okay, all right, maybe that's what's throwing Okay, that's what's
throwing me off. Because money, Yeah, I'm seeing the other money.
I didn't realize that they that they put all of
that together as a group. As they clump it together.
I thought it was separate. So if you get your three,
then you could do something else that's gonna add more
to it. So that means that's why they're getting more,
and it's throw it threw me off when you said that,
because I'm like.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Wait a minute, No, those are separate. That's that's a
separate service. Those can be separate contracts. So you could
have one agent.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Handling, uh, the.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
The representation with the NFL, and then you can have
someone else doing the endorsement.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Okay, Okay, that makes more sense because you threw me
completely off.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm like, hold on, man, I thought you guys get
more than that.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But if they got it set, I didn't and I
did not realize it was set within the Players Union either.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
As far as that type of.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Stuff, it's it's it's it's the most regulated one for
age in the forestry, in the sports industry as far
as when it when it comes to dealing with uh
the scrutiny of the agents, as far as the background checks,

(25:16):
all of that. It is not like that in any
other league, uh than it.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Is with the NFL.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, I didn't know. So right as we're talking, I'm
sending a message to Lee Steinberg, you know, show me
the money. I'm sending a message right now and see
if you'll get back with me. I had to send
it to his I had to send it to his
assistant real quick, to Jack. So I would like, I
would like to talk two hours and game. I know.
That's so hopefully Lee gets back to me sooner than later,

(25:43):
because uh, well, well, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Nobody really cares about the game. Time of that game.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'm gonna watch it because he's on I'm gonna watch
that Minnesota game because it's on. I'm not watching it
because I know the outcome. Ultimately, I don't care what
happens today. I know.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I Okay, Okay, Like I said in the beginning of
the program, I said, God said, I'm gonna let a
mouth say anything. He won't say that, oh man, But
guess what. It's gonna make sure we do a conversations
from the barbershop tomorrow and see how you.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Are because of one game. Oh you, oh, for my
beloved Nicks.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Look at his beloved Nicks, My beloved Nicks. Okay, it
was so much enthusiastic.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
For my beloved Nicks.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Hey, you know what what I did to last I
think our last year. I misspoke because I thought that
your door had already signed that country.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
He just signed it.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
He just signed.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
But it was the same money that I had seen.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
And it's a good thing Alan here because he's a
you know, he's a Cleveland guy, so he really knows you,
like on the back end of.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
So yeah, it's slotted, uh, the fifth round draft pick.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, so it's just gonna.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Now check this out. I am glad you're here.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
This out though, all right, So taking I think was
that two weeks ago, week ago, and I said, this
is what he's gonna make because I thought he had
already signed a deal, but obviously he didn't. For them
to come out this week and have him sign that deal,
does that mean because I honestly thought they brought him
on as a propaganda thing and they were gonna cut him.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I honestly did.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I didn't think he'd make the fifty three at least
and turn it to a uh undrafted free agent, because
then if they cut.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Him, number one selling Jersey in the NFL, right now, I.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Know, But so followed Bi his brother, Oh, Charloh's is
selling out that shallow out there balling two. But back
to what I was saying, So they come out this
week they have him signed that contract. Does that mean
Travis in the top five? That's what I just read

(27:49):
this morning. Uh So do you think at first they
were thinking of themselves, why even pay him this money?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
We're gonna cut him? And now you just paid him
this money.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Do you think now he's in He's one of the
guys that we've maybe looking at, if not number three starting.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, he he clearly has the talent to potentially start
and and I don't think that it was why uh,
you know, bring him on and cut them.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That wasn't.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
That wasn't when when I think the evaluators were aware
of his talent level, it was about sending a message
to humble or uh to spite his father or to
spite the family name or or humble Black America correct

(28:49):
and and and to and to not ever let someone
have that kind of level of power influence over uh.
They want to come in to a draft again like that.
So so think about, uh, let's let's look at what's
gonna happen next year. Who's coming in the draft next year?

(29:13):
Another man? What happened with the previous man?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Me and him?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Has this discussion Eli I'm talking about Eli was the
last Manning to come in. He was the last one,
the last one.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
New one coming in. He thinks he's he think he's
coming in next year, next season, and I think he's
We kind of been going back and forth, you know,
with with Arch Manning because Arch Manning is part of
the man In family and they usually stay four years
in school.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I honestly, I know y'all said, y'all had this conversation earlier.
I honestly think he's gonna stay in too. It doesn't
make a difference when he comes out, he's still gonna
be number one. He could come out in three years
he's still.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Be number one.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Hanging out at the same school.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
It'll make a difference when he comes on.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Alan White thinks he's coming out at as a junior.
I don't think I just put figured. I put that
out there.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Well, think about something else. To Allen, Uh, we're talking
about their grandfather. Do you know he could not get
an n I L deal to this year his grandfather
would grandfather, not his dad, not his uncles, his his
grandfather told him, no, you don't get an n I
L deal till you hit the field.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Did you know that?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
So he got his in the N I L deal
this year.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That shows That shows that shows everything. What what you know?
Grandpa is still running the whole thing everybody. Yeah, and
that's his name Saint too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, so there you go. But I think back back.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
To Yeah, I think he has a legit shot at
starting in Cleveland before the end of the year. Before
the end of this season, it'll be Joe Flacco going
in Week one I think, well, m will be the
one that will get cut. So you think the picket,

(31:05):
I think they'll cut before I think he'll let me
rephrase that. I think he'll get I think he'll get traded.
I think you'll see him get a certain number of
reps uh during the preseason to to UH boost Joe
Flacco won't hit the field. He'll be the weak one starter,

(31:29):
and you'll see you'll see Picket, You'll see Dylan Gabriel,
and you'll see Shador Sanders get the reps and then
they'll they'll determine who will be second string, third stream,
and then I think Pickett will be positioned to uh
to then get traded at that point, Okay, but you

(31:53):
look at that, you look at the talent. Yes, Uh,
Dylan Gabriel got drafted uh two rounds ahead of Shador,
but every single evaluator had Chador above Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Of course, so.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
All right, so we can we can figure it out.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
And to that point, yeah, Chador's jersey is the number
one selling jersey.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Chador did everything right from the moment he got drafted, UH,
going to Fairview High School suburban Cleveland, Ohio. He's a
fan favorite in Cleveland right now, So they're gonna want
to demand and see him get out there and get
on the field. He's he's motivated, and it's gonna it's

(32:46):
gonna make for an interesting season, even though they'll be
lucky to win six games this year. Lucky to win
six games this year is gonna be uh an interesting
season and something build upon.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
You're gonna hear it here first from Alan White.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
I'm saying I've been calling this project twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Project twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Is the year that Jimmy Haslam will open up the
Dome in Cleveland, Ohio, and they're doing running their plan
to make the Browns relevant sometime around twenty twenty eight,
so that they're a relevant team by then, so they
can sell out.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
That dome come twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Sell the PSLs, the luxury boxes, and do everything then.
So right now they're just building up for that. And
if you think about what Shador has in front of
him up until then, by that time, he'll be playing
eight nine games a year in a climate controlled environment

(33:55):
once twenty twenty nine comes around, Okay, so think about that.
If he sticks around until then, they can build up
a track team, just like the Detroit Lions, just like
the Saint Louis Rams back in the day. They and
they will be the team, the only team in the
AFC nor with the dome and with that ability to

(34:18):
put together that type of offense that can that can
do some different things in that division. And uh, and
that's what I think is happening out there.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, Okay, so you said something and you also said
something to it. Now I will agree they wanted I
would say they wanted to humble his dad more than him.
This had I don't think this had much to do
with your door, a lot to do with his dad,
maybe a little bit to do with your doing. But
last year we had a player that came into the

(34:50):
league that didn't want to go to a team, and
he was a black man, the actual part of the team,
a percentage of ownership of the team. Before he got drafted,
he asked for several different things that's never heard of.
Why don't we Why didn't they say we're not gonna
take him number one? You think of Chicago if the
Bears had the number one pick, do you think they

(35:11):
take Shador Sanders? Even with all the stuff that even
his dad said, because the Bear said, forget everybody, I'm
still gonna take him, and they took Kayle.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah. I mean he was unpresently the number one pick
in the draft.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, but he said stuff way worse than Shador and
his dad because he was talking about whole now not
to play for the for there.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's still coming out that he didn't want to play
for him. He wanted to play in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
But they still took him.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
So you think that Dion makes that much of a
difference that the NFL is going to say, we want
nothing to do with this young man.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Well, you know, they know Dion's his attitude. They know
his attitude, you know, towards everything, you know what I mean,
And that's not you know, you know, it's like they
want to knock his shine. You know what I'm saying.
You know, Diana is kind of show boat, you know something.
But some people don't like that.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I don't like him being him.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think he
says it a lot. You know what I'm saying, don't
let my confidence, you know what I'm saying, bother you, Yeah, yeah,
bother your insecurities. You see what I'm saying something something
to that fact, you know something you know, something like that.
But you know, maybe I ain't saying it like he said,
but you know what I'm saying. You know, everybody get
the gist of what them we're going and and and

(36:27):
that that was to knock him down, and and and
and just to look at it. They want to show
you that hold man, we in control. And that's what
they That's what they said, That's what they did. That
was the Black America knocking Diana's knocking Black America.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
But I think I think also, uh, what was that
issue was the timing of the statements.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I mean, Eon was coming out saying.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Uh, Chador and Travis, they not going to this organization,
They're not going to that organization, right, we only considering
these him full of organizations to play for when the
time comes, uh, and and trying to control or dictate
where they're gonna go to and and kind of influence

(37:12):
the draft.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
The stuff with Caleb Williams is coming out a year.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
After his first season.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
But now his father, I'm sorry, now his father was saying, oh,
he considered playing in the UFL instead of instead of
playing in the NFL, you know, so, uh so, yeah
that I think, uh there there's a slight difference, and
uh well not it' slight. There's a big difference in

(37:41):
that comparison with the timing of it.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
They just have to get younger if they really want
the UFL to really work like that. I mean, all
the take is okay, all them young players in the
draft and we're going over here, we're not even going
into the NFL.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Or or which I don't know if the NFL is
okay with, But this is the UFL.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
It's not the NFL.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
What about those players that know they may not have
a chance coming out after two years going to the
UFL because the NFL you have to stand three years.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
What if the UFL say we'll take players in.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Two Yeah, I thought of that. You know, this will
just may age a few of us. But remember the
USFLAT that's half of the UFL. Remember I remember back
in the eighties with the USFL and when our current
president drafted herschel Walker to the New Jersey general and

(38:35):
he came into the league playing for the New Jersey
Generals back then, and that was what may started to
make people pay attention to the USFL.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Gave more money than NFL could give them at that time,
at that time, at that time, no question more money.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
So yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
If we can fill up the stadium, we're gonna work
with that. Everybody's playing in one stadium. Yeah, you know,
you got all these city teams names. It's like they're
doing the what what did the NBA do and the
lockout type deal with it had everybody playing in one
little man. They need they need to move that around.

(39:14):
If your team is Saint Louis, that's what you're gonna work.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
You need St Louis.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, but most of the teams are based in the South.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, well because those it's usually places that don't have
a pro team is where they're doing that usually.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I mean, that's what you should do. Hey, you know,
I would play in college stadiums in cities that you
know don't have an NFL you know, an NFL team,
or I would be I would have a New York team.
I would have a you know what I'm saying, a
team in LA. I have a team, you know, you know,
I will have twelve teams.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm gonna change what I just finished saying that. But
what we all were talking about about Peyton Manning, I'm
going backwards. Hey, I just thought about something after we
start talking about Chador and Caleb.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
What this is?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
This is when I say Manning is coming out, who
has the first pick in the draft? Is when it
is when we'll know when he's coming out. Because if
grandfather is calling all the shots, he's not gonna let
him go play at a Tennessee. He's not gonna let
him go play to one of those teams and fire
his grandfather can't now come out and say we're not
gonna play here, because then coming out, Yeah, well, who

(40:22):
you think is gonna be the number one pick next year?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I don't know that. You know they're gonna always have.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Okay, well, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I give you the softest schedule next year in the NFL,
and we can base it off that the softest schedule
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'm gonna put it to you like this. It wouldn't
surprise me that it'll be Pittsburgh Stellers.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
The easiest schedule in the NFL this year coming up
is the forty nine Ers by thirty thirty.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
All that money he got the fifty he ain't brock
party no more. He brocked pretty, He brocked pretty. He
that boy got over two hundred million and one hundred
and eighty one a guaranteed guarron.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
T Tennessee has a twenty knife easiest schedule.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Well, you know they're not gonna go quarterback back to back.
They're gonna try and get that.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, I know they're gonna. Cam
is their guy. Cam is their guy. They're not They're
not looking for a quarterback. I'm just I'm just looking
on here, uh the heart.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'm trying to tell you who's gonna be man, just
looking at the lead again, it's gonna so I'm trying
to tell you it's gonna be between Pittsburgh, who's gonna
be trash? And and and because they didn't hold up,
they didn't pick a quarterback, they didn't try to do anything. Well,
they picked up Will Howard. You know anybody that plays
Ohio State that quarterback is trash. You know, I'm bash quarterback.

(41:49):
You know what I'm saying, Know the dame guy to man,
you know, hey, I don't play that Will Howard. This
dude came throw the ball twenty yards. I'm gonna let
he lived. Uh, let him live Stroud. Okay, so he's
gonna pull j. Stroud out out of his hat. Wasn't

(42:12):
badjj ain't bad. He's showing.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I'm saying wasn't because I have a feeling.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
That, Oh, you think he's gonna be bad this year?
I do?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Okay, I do, And I'm Ohio State. If I'm gonna
root for a college team, I root for Ohio State.
And I think this year some of his some of
the kinks and some of the flalls in that armor,
is gonna show. Do I think this year? It is
because everybody saw so much of him. So this is
the year where he is. This year, he's either gonna

(42:43):
go here or he's gonna go there. There's no in between.
He's either up or down.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Who's that receiver?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
State that went?

Speaker 5 (42:51):
That was No, that's too young, that was too young.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
To Oh he was a freshman, you got just got drafted.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
No, No, he's still in school.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
He's south.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh you're talking about the wide receiver. I can't think
it's Smith or something like that was his last man.
I can't think he got a real common last common.
I think it's Smith. For some reason, I want to
say Smith.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
The Giants have missed the playoffs during each of the
last two seasons. As they seven.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
They just drafted quarterback at twenty four. But the Giants
are stupid anyway. It wouldn't surprise me if they be
in that quarterback triangle between them Pittsburgh and and and
the other New York team, the Jets, the j E
t X. You got gamee green Boom boom.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Man. I'm looking at at at some of these teams
right now and I'm just like, I don't know you.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
You look at this stuff, man, I see it.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Brother, I don't I don't know who.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I'm just trying to give you the obvious favorites. Who
gonna be bad.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
I think the Giants be.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Of course the Giants. I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
It's all about that.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
And they're gonna let Rush cook.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
That dude is one.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Good completion away, gonna make the completion before it happened.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I'm just say, no, one good completion. He gonna have
a bunch of completions, but he's one good completion, meaning
one good completion to win something, meaning a playoff game,
one good completion away.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, they got them. They got famous Jamis behind them
there too.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Who did they drive the quarterback?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Dark?

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Okay, so they got Jackson Dark. Jameis wins canna probably
be the third because because they gotta get Dark red
ye so and and uh, Brian Dabo is gonna be
under considerable pressure to win.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
So he has to pay.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Mm hm.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
So he's gonna start Russell and and Russell will.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Pretty much still be on a short leash.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Again, it's with a first round draft pick man waiting
in the wings.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
If you sit that dude down for Dark this season anytime,
I don't care how bad they doing unless they unless
it's week nine or week ten.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Because you got a head coach in the hot seaton,
he's still gonna be in the hot seat regardless, uh
this season. And and and with that, with that being
the case there, they're gonna that dynamic.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
They're gonna have.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
To keep Wilson on a short leash with the with
the first round draft pick waiting in the wings, he's
gonna be number two. Jameis Winston is in the best
possible situation.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well, you know he signed he's a two year deal.
Yeah for what eight million? Eight million dollars two year deal.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
So he's just gone sit there and get the bread correct.
But I still say Russell is gonna have to lose
eight or nine games before Dark gets in. He's got
to There's no way I'm talking about. That's the only
way I see him.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
See Russell losing eight me.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
That's what I said.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Here's the thing, though, I believe they have a pretty
tough first half of their schedule.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But that they have the number one hardiest catch, do.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
They they have?

Speaker 4 (46:34):
They have a pretty tough especially the first half of
this and.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
NFC East alone, they have a tough skeedu.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And I don't I don't think the Washington Redskins will
be the Washington Redskins that they were.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Last Ye're the commander, so they won't peace.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Fight cracked by the same thing. They the same team.
You know that. You know that they're the same old jokers.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
That's true. They're still gonna be bad.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Everybody's still gon them the Skins. We're gonna call them
the Skins.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Let's see, I'm trying to put their schedule real quick.
Uh uh, NFC East.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Just the NFC. Just if you put in the NFC
least it would have came up quicker.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
It came up quicker.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Ye you probably probably right, yeah Giants.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, you know, you know the Cowboys schedule all by
itself right now. You know, that's all you talk about
is the Cowboys. But you aren't hope. But they won't
even pay their man over there that y'all won't pay
the big man.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Who you're right. They start off with the Bills. Oh,
that's preseason, that's preseason, that's preseason. That would have been rough. Uh,
let's see regular season, Jets, Jets, preseason. You know they
opened up with they opened up with the Commanders. They
opened up with a division like then the Chiefs. Oh
you right, yeah, then they got the Commanders, the Chiefs,

(47:54):
the Saints, the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
And damn Ver.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Let's go go back to so let's let's look at it.
Week one is at Washington.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah yeah, the week one is at Washington.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Then at home against the Chiefs, then in New Orleans,
then in Denver at home against the at home against.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
The Packers they are to beat the pack targe.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I don't know, at home against the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Then they got the Cowboys probably, I mean it's it's
that's that's a that's a big.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
L Well, they don't have anybody to stop the receivers.
That's what they should have been.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Going to have great receivers over no, no.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
No, I'm talking about on New York side.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
They didn't. They didn't really do anything that.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
The best thing they could do to help the their
young team is, you know, is bringing some offense. You know,
you got the you got your man over there, he
bringing offense over there.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
They have a brutal schedule, yes, they they have a brutal,
brutal schedule.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
And what you gotta do.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Is look at all you gotta do is look at
Russell Wilson's pattern.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Uh. I gotta say, I gotta say something to a
regional heavyweight champion. My man Gary Day, you know he was,
he was a boxer back in the day. He just
stopped about to say hello to us.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Hello, gentlemen, right on, right on, love.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Right, and I appreciate you coming by, brother Day one
of them and Ronnie Lyle used to busting each other.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Just hey, Colorado's had some of the best boxes in
the world right here, this is where everybody came.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
He was one of them.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, one of them. Yeah, some of the best boxes.
I get, I hear stories. But Steve Sidwell will tell
me how they would be. He would be boxing with
you guys. Sewell teld me about all you can't see
box with. Did y'all just do sit well?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Bad?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I'm the baby m ye tell me about everybody. I
started in grades. Okay, Yeah, when he came down there, well,
I'm gonna check you on the playground. You know, I
want to see if you can do something I started
in the project time okay.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Twenty two and oh nineteen ko John King said here you.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Go, I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I hear you, I he But anyway, yeah, there was
a beautiful steak.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
But when it comes to our boxing the scene, a
lot of us.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Are unknown, if you will.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Matter of fact, I got my championship to get that
contract was with uh.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Uh, I'll figure how you do the.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Tough man contest?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
So when I left the joint, I came out and
three dudes that asked in one night, get that get
that brand.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I told him, I told you, yeah, this way he
was doing that tough man.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, it was on that tough man.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, to be tough.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
I mean it wasn't like on a Wizard of Ours.
The line, what are you behind?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
My back. But none of that neither that.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Don't know, man, you know, call him, oh man, I'd
say that's the way he sounds when he hit the canvas.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Uh, what we were just talking about.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Uh, remember at the barbershop, anybody can pop in and
anybody could come in. We let everybody talk. Uh. And
what we we were just talking about.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I was talking about Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh yeah, by Russ Well, so we're gonna chuck it
up to elite neighbors easily.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Uh, that's what he's gonna do.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
He's known for throwing him fifty fifty balls. Went in doubt,
throw the fifty fifty balls. Yeah, and that's what he's
gonna He's gonna take a lot of sacks and chuck
out the fifty fifty ball. And uh, with that tough schedule,
he could very well be I hate to say it,

(52:07):
you know, benched by week nine.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I ain't mean, you know, go away from what y'all
talking about. Well, you know, if it's if it's like that,
you know, maybe he can go play in the Olympics.
I just heard that the NFL players will be allowed
to play in that flag.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Football I heard that.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Yeah, but that takes away from gonna chuck it up,
take yeah for the flag.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Then you're taken away from the amateurs though. Should should
we not let the cottage players go? I'm saying, well,
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Asking, well, America's gonna send one team. Yeah, well, okay,
I guess so, but no, the pro is gonna go
because we want to win. So America wants to win,
So the Pro's gonna go. Well, mean, well, back at
the ranch.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Oh man, Hey, so just got a message, Uh, Lebron James.
They voting right now to Ohio State to give Lebron
James an honorary honorary degree degree. Get out of here.
I don't understand. Here's my thing, Lebron Lebron James did
not get a degree, but he made everybody else, all
his friends, get one. Am I wrong? Am I right?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
I mean, well, I thought he had a degree. I
don't know. I couldn't tell you he didn't agree.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
What No, No, I'm just saying I thought he had
a degree. But I must be wrong, so he must have.
He must have made everybody else around him get one
to be around.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I mean I didn't know. I mean I thought he.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Did, I was send all my homeboys to college.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Well he did. He sent everybody to college because those
are all of the cats that he He told them,
if they want to be if they want to be
a part of him, they had to go to school.
So he put him all in school. So he put
him out. And that's cool. I get it. That's smart.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
That's smart put them all in school. Yeah. So uh yeah, Allen,
you have some great insight. I ain't think you. I
ain't think you was that that intelligence.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I'm messing with you.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
With you A couple of guys in the NFL. You
know what I'm saying. I believe he was that bright.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Three dollars just an undergraduate degree in business from current
Mellon University.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
And the NBA from look at me, want to pull up.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
That smart school from the University of Colorado.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Have n B A, to have n B A.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
But I wrote my name, Hey, Tank, I got n
B A too. I wrote mine. End. I wrote my
n B A on my certificate that I got from
Law and Order. So my certificate it is n B A. Yeah.
And if you ask me what that means, maybe something.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
But hey, that's how I was able to be an agent.
I'm not a lawyer, ah, but I got a master's.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Degree and I had some business and business contract negotiation experience.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Okay, that's that's what you need to be an agent
and the NFL, and that's the only one that they
checked for. In the other leagues, you do not need
to be an attorney. You could be you know, cousin
June Bug can rep you and in these other leagues,

(55:16):
but the NFL you either have to have eight years
of contract negotiation experience or be an attorney or have
a master's degree at minimum.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
The year that.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
I got into it, uh, jay Z was supposed to
be in my class at the Risk Carlton in DC
attending that seminar. He did not get his paperwork in
in time, so he hired a lady.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
By the name of Kimali into rock Nation, who did attend.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
And that was how rock Nation got started, was from
that he didn't get his paperwork.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's sorry. We got a game entertainment over here, you
know what I'm saying, you know, and that's cool that
that was.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
How that was how he was able to do it.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
But he didn't get his NFL license, but got his uh,
personally got his any other league.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Okay, So if you're saying this what you have to have,
I think I know the answer is what I'm gonna
ask anyway, Well, how did Lamar's mother.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Become his agent?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Jesus manager?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Oh, she's only the manager. Yeah, Oh okay, she's a manager.
Oh so they can't say anything about a manager.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
You can always have your manager.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
They go to negotiations as well.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Jory, you know you can. You can just hire out
an agent just to do.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
The five print of everything. Oh okay.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
A manager is going to vibe but not necessarily negotiate
with the club. Okay, So so that that's that's yeah,
you can't circumvent that, right, Okay, all right, that's fair enough.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
You know, you ask and you find out. Right on
you asking, you find out.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Uh so tonight game one Minnesota Winter Night or they
lose to night. I'm asking you a simple question.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
We win we went we win a type.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
In in Okay, We win the type first game in Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
See yeah, we won the type first game. Uh okay.
See he had a tough second round opponent in Denver
and they went seven. I I you know, we had
a little bit of a break. I think we go
get game one down at Oklahoma City.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Matchup problems in this game who who?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Who?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
They both go about nine d we we who's bench
is gonna win?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Match up problem is them trying to stick Julius Randon.
They've only seen Randall once this season. We we we
played to to two. Uh it was to to tie
this season, you know, between four games and they only
seen Randing one game. Okay, so do you who even

(58:11):
the last game that that they played, uh together, they
were up about twenty seven and they came back at
won and ot.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
What how do how do we look at the big
guys if we're looking at the center for the seven
foot from Okay City.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
They won't they won't get easy shots in the pain.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Well he he he, you know he go both face,
he'll two that side.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Go bear. They not worried about haven Stein. That's the
thing is that you know, God Beart is more likely
gonna have to go out and you know, do a
little bit with check. Just put the body out there.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, because he doesn't weigh twelve pounds, right, so go
bear should be So that matchup is we would we
saying even if we're giving a little start. I know
what I'm saying when Check because Check gets out there quick.
He's out in the game quick. So I'm saying, then
now you have to change from Garden meet against Garden.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Somebody with that outside shot and everything else.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Well, there are other things where you know you're gonna
get rotational switches, and that's gonna help. I think that's
gonna help Minnesota, you know, regarding you know, with Garden
Oklahoma City. Like I said, you know these you know
these teams are evenly matched. And his cousin versus cousin,

(59:28):
you know that right, said it again, cousin versus cousin
Nicole Alexander. Oh, that's right, Alexander Walker, and and and
and Gilgas Alexander cousins first cousins. Wow, So got got
the two Canadian guys gonna you know, they're gonna, you know,

(59:50):
hit it out tonight.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I don't I'm not a big fan of because I
wasn't sure. I didn't want to just say it. I
knew the Knicks had beat uh Indiana rights, but which
I don't. I never ever care about what happens in
the regular season. Once the playoffs come, I just what
I think the thing with the next one. I think
about it, How how much can you continue to work

(01:00:17):
to to rely on Brunton? How much even though they
getting help from every other Michael Bridges and everybody else.
How because at the end of the game, it's always
about They're always.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
At the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
They defer to him, and for him to be such
a small guy. Indiana is a very physical team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Indiana is very physical, very physical. You know. I wonder
what they're gonna do with Cat and make him you
know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Well, the thing with Cat that that I like in
the playoffs not doing regular national media now because he's
playing well. Because oh yes, big Damien Wood he called him.
He said, Man, he's so sassy man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
So people gotta understand what I've been saying this stuff
for about four five years. I said, Man, hey, man,
you know, I think the Cat might might be on
the sugary side. Man, come on, man, I mean, you know,
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Being he was. He gone, y'all don't need to worry
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
He gone, Hey, man, Hey, you know what, sugar dude,
when you put water to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
It, right, bruh, He's not with y'all, no more with
us with y'all problem. He balling and he's playing inside.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
He's New York's problem.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Well, he's been helping New York.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Okay, so we gave you our problem. We took y'all problem.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
We we Okay, he was our problem then, but he
got something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
They both have some big big jew playing well, they
both have something to big jew.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
So it is cat Cat realizes he has to go
inside because Jaalen isn't gonna just give him the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Up top, hey man, and he bowl in his side.
Cat Cat got going inside his chest, inside his heart.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
What is that with you? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Man? He ain't got no heart. Man, Cat ain't got
no heart, man. That's why. That's why he got shipped
out of Minnesota. Got a team that makes it to
the Western Conference final trades that gout number one overall pick.
That means they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Were the Western Conference finals with him last year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Now you have to understand something. How did they make
it to the Western Conference finals last year? And they
won sixty plus games last year and he missed fifty
one games. He missed fifty one games. They won sixty
games last year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
So who y'all got?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
They eat?

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I got New York.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
That's who he got, you know what for you got,
I'm getting ready to I'm getting ready to roll. I'm
going back to Indiana since he's talking like that. But nope, nope, nope.
The only reason why I'm gonna do that because of
you know, you mess with me. But I promise you,

(01:03:08):
you know what. I want New York to make it
to the NBA Finals so they could play in Minnesota.
That would be great if it happened. Well, we're trying
to make that happen. I know we hould up y'all
at y'all end of the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Here's something else too. Indiana Minnesota has not won a
championship ever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
I know this. Indiana's won one in the in the A,
B A.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
I'm gonna repeat myself in Uh, Indiana and Minnesota has
never won championship.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
So what's wrong with when what I'm saying, no, the
greatest in the ABA history. Man, you don't let me
finish what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
You don't let me finish.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
The Knicks haven't won.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Sister seventies, seventy two, seventy three.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Seventy three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Uh, they haven't won since then, and neither I think
it was the seventies when uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Indiana won with the a BA.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
No no, no, no no, it was uh Shoots. I
can't remember who's the four team Oklahoma City where they
were Seattle. They were Seattle, so they won a championship
before with the Seahawks back in the days. I mean
the Sonics. So those two half so so those two half.

(01:04:20):
So those two have one and two have it. What
I like about this year somebody that hasn't won it
so long is gonna win one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah, so I like that part.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
So here's the thing, the way New York has played
the past couple of years, I didn't think they would
get past the second round.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
My team is due man, I think forty teams are
do My team.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Is due form?

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
We do? You mean, son, my little brother god rest is.
So we went to Minnesota's first game, Man, we we do.
Can you say you went to the New York Knicks
first game? Circle?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Dude, They've been playing basketball since the turn of the
of of two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I've been blessed. I've been blessed to turn the two
centuries and you've been blessed two centuries ago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
It was that first time doing it. But yeah, man,
that's so we both have our pics.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Yeah, we're ready.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I'm gonna come in here. Probably you should. I can't all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Those meetings, man, What do you mean you can't? I
got I got a lot of you know, I might
just have to go ahead broadcast tomorrow by myself, a
lot of you know, with the you know, barbershop conversations.
I might get all white and a couple of fellas
by handing somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Somebody need to call Uber Eats, so y'all can order
some crow for one of y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
And you absolutely might be right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Or then again, I could be wrong, and it's both
of us playing each other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
But how do we usually close out? Hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I gotta get it precisely right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
You're gonna have to say it right, man, I always
I always say it. What's saying right? Want to make
sure you have ways be wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
No, No, I've said it right every single time, man,
because it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Well, I like the way you close out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
It's the truth. Uh, the truth, that's what it is.
Truth will set us free? Brother, oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
So the Phillies is in town, man, The Phillies is
in town tonight? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
What they That's why almost, that's why I almost went.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Playing your rockies. You know, I like you know, I
like heart. Man. That's my dude over there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Oh yeah, he's a ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah he'll play man hey Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
So, as we always say, always say, we might be wrong.
That's highly unlikely. Nobody does it bad