June 5, 2025 • 33 mins
Convos from the shop today we talk about The GOAT of basketball and conspiracy theories about Magic
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Convoys from the Barbie Shop with world class, Supreme Barbie Shop.
That's right, Supreme will always be in whenever I talk.
It ain't just world class and supreme.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
When I'm here, they call me the Supreme leader. That's
Big tank. Everybody introduced themselves. They know we're talking to.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'my that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Isaiah. The greatest here too, y'all know how you do?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Y'all got the homeboy, Big Rocco in the house, straight
out of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You know what I'm saying, rolling with his paces to night.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He should roll with him. They gonna get Hey, they
gonna roll right up out this joke, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
They're gonna roll right about this joke for me and you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, me and you, Me and you got too big.
We bet for the series and we bet for the night.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What you talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hey, I forget Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So the topics today in the in the shop, it's
convoys from the shop. We got we got another little
little tanker walking around down there. So combos from the
shop today. The greatest basketball player of all time. And
why we're gonna start off with idy out of love
it here, Yeah, he was the greatest to you in
(01:17):
your eyes, my goat is still m J. And why
and I'll tell you why. Lebron is a close second.
But and when Lebron retired, he will be numbers. He
will be the go But I really say he can't
be the goat right now because he's still playing.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Okay, I agree with that, and I can the conversation
that will keep changing every year he keeps playing.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know what I'm saying, he only adding to what
he already done.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I give Lebron another I think he's gonna play with
his youngest son, So I'll say three years, so you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Have you think he'll have another one come out of
school too to go play with.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The youngest is a good player Arizona.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah yeah, But what I'm saying, so he's gonna play
two years and Arizon day like.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Get Lebron three more at the most and after that
the rapper MJ. And no disrespect to the MJ. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
He changed the game many different ways, but I produce it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
The way on the court, basketball talent, it is Lebron.
But right now still MJ because Lebron is still adding
to it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, all right, okay, and and so we're gonna move
on this. Who you say is the greatest of all time?
Speaker 6 (02:29):
So look, I'm just smart. I agree with Rot the
greatest of all time. If I had to change my game,
or if I was to replica of my game, I
would replicank my game from Larry Bird.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And the reason why.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Larry Bird Okay, go ahead, why.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Larry Bird seither to me? Larry Bird gets as much
credit as he should.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
If Larry Bird would have had that magic team, I
think that Larry Bird would have had just as more
rings the imagine.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's just my personal opinion. But if I will, if.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
I member my game, Mary Larry was was all along.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So if you mimicked your game, it would be Larry Bird.
So but he made so as you said, is he
the greatest of all time? To YouTube? Yeah, yes Bird,
Yes so. Now now, because a few minutes ago you're talking.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
About think about it, gave my opportunity, gave a.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Chance to think.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's why I'm saying that gave you a chance to think.
So when you start thinking about it, why do you
say in your mind that Larry Bird is.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm just curious think because because every bird is a
great player, but is a white guy?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Shut up man?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
So Bird for me, for me, that bird, white man
was all around.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
He was he was going for the steals.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You have him going.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh, he could shoot the ball, he.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Could bring it up the court. Look, white man can't jump,
That's about it. But outside of that, and you could
he could.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Joh, I know that. But you know Bird wasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That wasn't his part of his games. He didn't put
that in his weapon throw.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
So when you when you go, as my cousin Lessie
was saying earlier, you go, look today in these players
you talked about, these European players, who do you see?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You mean people? A lot of people say dirt little
wins guy. I'll say, I'll see Larry Bird.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, that's fair enough. Okay, But why you know earlier
I messed up. So we were trying to record this,
I messed up. But but when I messed up, you
had said MJ. Why did you switch from m J
to Bird? When you have to think about because.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Who was you?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Tank?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Don't well, big take I tried to cut you off,
Big Tank, don't like MJ.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But go ahead, I get that.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
When you when you boil down to a statistics or whatever,
it came down six six h Manning Championships, all that
good stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The era of nineties era MJ ran that.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
You know what I'm saying, everybody wanted to be like
Mike right Grays of all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I give m J.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Still, if I was a mimic my game, bro, I
would take Larry Bird like if I.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Was if what we're talking about, mimicking your game.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Okay, you know what, let me finished, give me old
my bad brother trying to get.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
The go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Go ahead, good, go ahead brother, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But said.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Bird, it's the greatest of all time because the simple
factor get.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You from to then because you're from Detroup. Come on, man,
were talking. Bird had hooks in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Bird was a man when he was when he was
playing the eighties, Bird had their own line.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
If the Bird would have Bird would have la Bird
saying Bird, I don't get me wrong, he still had great.
He had no Korean.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Give Bird Koreana and then let's see what the outcome
would be and see how many rings that would have been?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
How many rings?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Bird get four three.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just know I wasn't asking your brother, your brother that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's come chas from the south, But I want you,
I wanted this was one I was asking.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Want to check.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
I want to check his knowledge on his knowledge?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Has Bird had you three? Magic half five?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Ye? Bird would have sent Bird would have had seven.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What you mean if he had Kareem he had got seven?
That one player would have gave him seven rings?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah? What these do do on defense? That's that's all
my king sports. I ain't never heard nobody.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Come up with that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean, this is my first time.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That hell of a scenario. It's true.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I not only think he gets seven, I think he
ended up with about nine.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
If you put up I've never ever ever heard anybody.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Say, y'all gonna put put Bird in Kareemo to.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Let them play together suit on h Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I love Robert Patt. Actually I love Robert pat. Magic
ain't got fire up. Magic don't get fired.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Up without without Kareem without.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
He got get too.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He got that one that the show Magic might get
to know what.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'm saying, Okay, he might.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Get too because they was loaded up. They end up
getting James Worthy. A lot of people don't get.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But they got they got worthy of the year that
they won the first one when before before they won
the first one, they got worthy right before, yeah, right
before they wanted they won.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
The World Happenionship.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Still the number one, the number one pick in the
draft of.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
What kind of stacked and you know what I'm saying,
locked and loaded stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The NBA was going, okay, So so you you you
said burd that one was one I wasn't expected, all right,
Isaida great? I know you were talking about m J. No.
You know you said shat.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I said, I'm gonna say this a yeah, and I
hope everybody get here. When you when you when you
say greatest player of all turn you speaking of the individual? Yes,
not who has the champion chimps and who as with
the team, because that's the championshipions, the team effort and
my and my and my as was always gonna be
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the same forever.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Is that.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I believe it. I don't care who you get.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Shaq is the most dominant player of all time. There
is nothing that you can do about it. There's nothing
that he's.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The greatest player of all time, the most dominant. There's
nothing that nobody could do about it.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
Listen here, but over to listen here this is that's
the defensive side.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
We're gonna talk about the defensive side.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
The man gave you two thousand and seven blocks throughout
the nineteen years. Hold up, hold up, hold on, that's
one point nine blocks a game.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He going out here.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
We're gonna go on for the numbers and then hold on,
hold up, where.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Are you talking about scoring?
Speaker 8 (08:52):
He gave you over three thy twenty six assists career assists.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's two point nine assists per game that he giving
you the business. This is not even putting the ball
in the hoop.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
We are talking about were talking about and we're talking
about the dude that seven foot tall give at seven
foot one, four hundred pounds, but him have given you this,
and you're talking about somebody dominant. Who was the great?
What great? What I'm saying this? And the dudes that
they mentioned it like Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan. What did
Michael Jordan do on defense? What did Michael Jordan doing?
The passing column? What is Michael Jordan doing other? And
(09:27):
assist column? Nothing? Nothing? And this is why you say
who is the greatest? Michael Jordan's greatest said what putting
the ball in the hoop? Because that's all he did.
He'll shoot you in the game and shoot you out
a game. Watch him do it both. He Hey, we're
gonna talk about the Hey, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
About the stats. Hey, Hey, Hey.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
We're gonna talk about Hey, Hey, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
About how how he went out there and the Lakers
he was giving him the works in nineteen ninety one,
giving them at all he can handle.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
Woo hey whoo. But hey, Mike's the greatest. Michael great
is I'm just saying great, Michael the great? Hey, okay,
so how do you let me ask.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You a question? People said that about shot. You know
this is a big thing. Tell hold holds you ready
for this. I'm a bush your I'm gonna bust your
head real quick. Check this out. Who bust you out?
Check this out? This is my little Neise. Check this out, littlenie.
I'm gonna give you a statistic. You like you like
you like Steph Curry? Right, you can shoot really good,
great shooter, bright shooter.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Hey guess who guess who's tied with free throws with him.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And Steph Curry's career right now, guess who's tied with it?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Shot?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh yeah you want to yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Yeah, no, no free throws made? Who cares about how
many free throwsies? So when you speak about when you
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, yeah, we
speaking about the great, we speak about a great player.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's he's a great shooter. Okay, so this is a
great shooter.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
If you all agree that until I brought that statistic out.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Here's a great shooter. He's actual a great shooter.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, all the grave that
step is a great shooter. But check this out occurred
to my calculation, everybody else, him and Sequille O'Neill made
the same amount of career free pro Today's I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I like that? All right now we're going alright, one,
give me one one. You go to one. Who you
got one? Who's the great greatest player of all time?
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Come back to me?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Come back to you?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, no, no, okay, because see now in your mindset,
you're gonna see you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
How do you not one? You ten?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So in your ten years, who's been the best player
you've ever saw that you saw played basketball? You're the
best player you saw because you just see Michael chroiting
them play his granddad and you showed him. Need to
see him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Who do you say? Okay, who do you like? What
basketball team? You like?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
A great shooter?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I have a person? What's his namet? Who? Magic Johnson?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Like magic? Like magic?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Okay, all right, that's cool, that's cool man, that's cool.
We'll take that all here. Let's go Let's go with
the talking here. Let's go with number one. Let's go
with the talking. He all right, who you Michael Jordan's okay?
And why you told me last time? And I messed up?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Because he elevated the game. He laid the blueprint. Shoot,
are you needed.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
What he he elevated the game to you? And know
what I'm saying, question he.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Elevated the game? And what way to you?
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Cos I would say, just how just how the n
B A like right blossom? Because now right because now
you got every team got what they call a Michael Jordan,
you know what I mean, like we got it like
the Nuggets got the Jamal Murray or you know what
(12:52):
I mean. You got your job, Marins, you got your
uh man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You definitely you definitely your your daddy's daughter. You're definitely
your daddy's daughter. That's the show.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You are your dad, your daddy's daughter, right not Yeah, No,
that's true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Met me at the.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Bottom, convos at the shop. Now we're going to big
tank and this here should be interesting. Hopefully he don't
bring up anybody that was born in the UH in
the in the two thousands and say they the greatest. Yeah,
because hopefully don't say, hey, he don't.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Say can't man or anything like that. Somebody is born
in two thousand. I just saying you're gonna be I
don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I just don't want to pick nobody that's born into
two thousands.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Okay, bottom line, lou Our Junior is the greatest basketball player.
And while you say not only that, he's the most decorated,
you know what I'm saying. No, if we're gonna go
by numbers and all this and that, Louis Sandors the.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Greatest, period, we go with the numbers period.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
If you just want to go, you just want.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
To go by number number.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
But in the word a great he has the numbers
and the longevity to show, hey, man, I was.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
The best twenty years.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Kareem played twenty years, Kareema years. I'm not saying Shaq
wasn't a good player up into man, let me tell
you something, man, Okay, the basket, I'm gonna put it
to you. Like this basketball, they have errors right in basketball. Okay,
We're gonna say George Miken had his era, right, Okay,
Then we're gonna hut after that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Then we're gonna say Bill Russell had his era.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
You know what I'm saying, but you but he had
to share his era with a guy by the name
of who will Okay, all right, so now hold up.
Now in nineteen sixty nine, you know, shut all that down. Okay,
I'm just I'm giving you basketball errors. It was a
guy by the name of Louis Alsindor Junior who changed
his name to Kareem My dudes, Jakar Jabbar came in
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and changed the game. They even outlawed the dump because
of him. Understand what I'm saying. So that's how dominated
he was. So he had to learn. Hold up, they learned.
They teached him the skyhook, unblockable shot. All right, So
now let me let me continue, let me continue on,
go ahead. So he hey, he dominated the game.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know what I'm saying. But you know, the thing was, he.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Became a Muslim, and and it's you know, it's stuff
outside the game that played part of it. While they
why people don't think of him as he's the greatest
because he's a muscle. You understand what I'm saying. People
don't look at him and be like, oh man, you know, uh,
you know what I'm saying. We can't we can't buy
the game off a Muslim guy.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So so you know, with him, his whole era was
almost like a ten year spin, you know what I'm saying,
by himself. And then you had this guy by the
name of Tragic Johnson and Larry Bird coming too the league,
and they jumped on that and sold the lead he
GoF of racism at that time. You know what I'm saying,
the black and white You know what I'm standing. What
I'm saying, which is cool, all right, everything is fine,
(16:07):
But you know what I'm saying. You know that was
that was those two era, right, and then they carried
the air all the way into ninety one. And then
you give it to Michael Jordan. He took the mantlets
they sold the league off of you know what I'm saying. Basically,
they made it a Nike commercial for you know what
I'm saying for years to come for about that's my back,
that's my box, y'all get that box.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I need that. I need that. Hold on, baby, let
me finish that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So when he I was at the Michael Jordan, Yeah,
when he came part of his era. Now after the
Mike Arab was going, Mike retired, Guess who guess who
was there? You know who the great player was, Penny No,
y'all won't believe it when I tell you it's a
guy by the name of Grant Hill, the most unstoppable
dude playing in the league for a two year span maybe.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Three when he got hurt.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
But he got hurt and went thirty years. But he
was he was hurt before he was hurt. So so
so brand Hill, Brand Hill. So so Mike comes back,
even Brant Hill still was the best player in the game,
even when Mike came back. All right, just follow one,
I'm gone and then here comes Mike come back. He's
not even better than Grand Hill. So Mike era was gone.
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Mike still was a good player because he still had
a great team. Mike had a great team. But you
know what I'm saying. Oh, but from that from that time,
From that time was brand Hill coming into the game.
For three years, he was the best. Now after the
Grand Hill era, it was this guy named Shaquille O'Neill.
Shaquille O'Neill. Shaquille still had to share his error though, no,
(17:44):
he no, he didn't. He had to share with a
guy by the name of Tim Duncan you understand what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
He had to share.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
He had to share his error with a guy by
the name of Tim Duncan he understand what I'm saying.
And actually, Shap was the best player in the league
at the time, but he had to share his era
with Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. They were the best
best in the game. You understand, I'm giving you the
three best players in the game, Shaq, Duncan, Garnet, bar none,
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nobody else can say nothing else?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
All right?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
And yeah, so so now y'all keep hollering this motherfucker's
name and I'm just being.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Honest with you. You have to you have to understand.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Hold time out, Okay, So okay, So Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Was not better than Alan? What Alan? Okay?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
All right, I'm getting I'm giving you the fanses of
the game.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Kobe was not the best player in the game. Okay, Well,
how many f vps did he win in that time
span and that timestand up?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I'm steady trying to tell you and I'm giving you
the game. Are we talking about the best players in
the game?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Motherfuckers is wearing braids because of Alan? You understand what
I'm saying. I'm trying to tell you. I'm just keeping
it real with y'all.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So now, so how many rings if you would have
had set?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
How many rings with Ai? If he didn't go into Philadelphia,
if he didn't play the New York in LA? You
understand I'm saying, it's been a different thing.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Don't make me do that. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Tracy, Tracy mcbrady is a better player than Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
He just happened to play in different places.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Had he been able to sit still in LA like
Kobe Bryant did, he would have people would have seen that.
Kobe Bryant's not a goal You know what I'm saying
he's a good player who happened to stay in one place.
And you know what I'm saying, and everybody looks at
it in a major media market.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He's not better than you know what I'm saying, team mate.
But let me continue on.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Okay, So, now after Alan Iverson had the league, who
was there next? No, it's a guy by the name
of Lebron James. Lebron James, Lebron James had the league
on the lock Lebron No, no, no, he just he
just Kobe never had an error? Do you hear what
I just said? Come on, man, how many people are
(20:11):
sitting up there? Kobe never had an error?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Kobe? What what?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
What?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Kobe had the rapist what you call that the rapist era?
And he was he was, yeah, you and then you're
gonna you're gonna be worth.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You can't do that. I'm kidding out. Kobe's a bum.
He's a He's a bum on this on on this
radio show.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, So you know I did.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Kobe's great. Kobe was a great player.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Just not a goat in your eyes? Never Okay, Ed
Okay Jones, you call me like that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Do you you? I'm kind of you and man like.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
That me and him got on it. I don't know
if you listen to our show the other day, but
you know what I'm saying. It's stuff that I didn't
mention on purpose. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I call that white white white America, White America. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
White America accepts you. You understand what I'm saying. You're
gonna make it. You're gonna be great. White America didn't
accept Kobe until death. That's why people speak.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Great on Kobe. Now I'm just being honest with you. Now.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
The thing with a white America is not accepting him
because he's out there.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
He's still in, you know, in the lanes, messing with
you know what I'm saying, hood rats girls with Bubba butts.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He ain't doing what Shae Gilg is Alexander's over there doing,
kissing white babies and all that kind of stuff and
kicking it. I'm just calling it what it is. You
know what I'm saying, he ain't got his white privileged
card like as g a as You see what I'm saying,
but you know what I'm saying the bottom on this
right now, I gotta give it to Jack.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know what I'm saying. It's his era. He he
three years in as.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Far as that get out of that smoke, son. So
what I'm saying is, yeah, that's you know what I'm
saying right now is Jack Lee.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm gonna disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
You can, you can, but it's his era.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
This is what three years? You know what I.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Al wanst say. I don't want to say five years
even though he only got three champions.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But what I'm saying is over a three year span,
he's been the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay, And you know what's crazy, it's his Here's here's
what's crazy with that tank. If you look back Michael Jordan's,
look back at uh Shaquille O'Neal, look back at almost
every player that we just talked about in here, they
had an era of that many years where they were unstoppable.
Shack had longer than that. But with Joker the way
(22:59):
he's playing right now, Yeah, I say, I said, it's
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Great.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Ye back on he back on Fantasy Mode video game
over the well on his building player. You don't think
he been on his building player.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
For what's going on? You?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Okay, So to me, the greatest who I think is
the greatest player of all time is Magic Johnson for
a couple of different reasons. Magic because he made he
may yeah, but he he has made every player around
him better. He won a championship in college. His first
year in the NBA, he won a championship. You know,
(23:45):
Magic doesn't come down with the AIDS virus. He doesn't
retire in ninety one. He continues to play. He has
five championships here.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
We don't know that. We don't know that, Tam, We
don't know that. We don't know that.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
If you look at what he had.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's got nothing to do with it. He could have
played to at least wait, he could have played at
least in ninety six ninety seven. I still think that
they would have put a team around him.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He would have won one more. Because they talked.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Everybody say Jordan is the greatest, most people because Jordan,
because Jordan won six. He won six, And they talk
about le Bron is not good because he.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Won four, but he went the ten ships. Yeah, Michael
Jordan won six, but he wanted he went to six
and he won six. But that doesn't mean he's a
great one.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
How many times did he get his ass kicks?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, the Detroit Pistons a lot of teams.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
At the eighties.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Man, it was either the Lakers or the Celtics in
the championship every year.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Every year.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Every year, it was either the Lakers of the Celtics
in the championship. If they wasn't playing each other, one
of the two was in the championship every year in
the eight So come on, he's not doing that without cares.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I want to understand difference.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Come on, it's just like it's just like the thing
with Kobe and Shot right.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
He came out first year shot period.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I agree to that.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
If you don't have this other guy that don't get.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Over the top, you gotta have him to make it right.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And Magic Johnson was the guy because Ring back then
still was giving me the last twenty seven sixteen.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
No, that's true, Queen's still giving me twenty seven and sixty.
I still Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Might be putting it in work, but he ain't got
me check over. You know what, I'm saying it was
the card. You gotta get me the.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Ball first, one hundred percent. But to me, I'm going
with Magic. That's my goal. You feel the only only
for that reason. That's why I say that, only because
I feel like you made everybody better.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Question, man, I know you mentioned that HIV theory, right, yeah,
so check this out.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So if Magic you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Do you feel like Magic got the disease or he
got paid for the disease like that?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Wow? Wow, that's that's cold. I never john I think
he got the disease. Do you think he got paid
for the disease?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
How much is Magic Johnson right now? Today?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He's he's over a billion.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Close to a billion, about about seventh maybe about.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So you think that his aide diagnosis?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I mean HIV? I'm sorry him, Sorry he told so
he got.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How much money did Magic Johnson make when he was
playing basketball.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And he wasn't making a lot?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
How much money was he working? Was worth more?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
After that?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You're telling me a man or retiring nineteen ninety two,
he got a pass when he throw it around and
he only made about forty million in his you know.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
In his career, he flips that like Kobe, like this
Kobe coming through the last in these few years.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Cold.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
It ain't like he came up with the dot com stuff,
you know what I'm and he didn't come up with
none of that.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
All the other businesses that you had, they were businesses in.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
So you told me how he flips that money into
you know what I'm saying, into basically quarter billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You you right now, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Take I'm stuck. I'm stuck because you stuck me with this,
this this, this game out of nowhere. I never thought
about any of that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Magic the greatest businessman. I wouldn't
say he's the.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Greatest business one of them, Yeah, because Junior.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Bridgman was the man. He was the man you know
what I'm saying that made it happen. You know what
I'm saying. He took his money and made it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well well hold on, wait right, wait, where are you
coming from with this stuff?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Where you coming from with this?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Because you said, Maggie Johnson, you know what I'm saying,
when they called it and all this and that, Magie.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Johnson got so you saying he was.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Question what he did was bring a lot of light
to the world with you know what I'm saying, with
him taking on a HI. You know what I'm saying,
a lot more people were aware of that.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You understand what I'm saying. Magic one not worth nothing
but about forty million.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
All Magic did was you know what I'm saying, You
got paid. He got paid to speak. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You know he said speaking out and speak to people
and get paid for You understand what I'm saying. But
what I'm getting that is Magic Johnson.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
To take the price.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Now, that's why people are talking.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
About he undetectable today twenty.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Five likest of my charge results.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm just saying, yeah, I don't know, I never heard that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
But my whole thing is the whole thing with Magic
Johnson got magic. I feel these athletes to speak real before.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
You know what I'm saying, before it's too lately means
you know what I'm saying, to speaking like, we're gonna
get Minel, We're gonna get a guy by the name
of Michael joining on the microphone. Who's joining You know
what I'm saying this side of the microphone, you know,
on the next NBA season.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You see what I'm saying, So you know what I mean.
It's it's different. You know what I'm saying. But you know,
I want you to speak real with you people. Man,
you know you know what I'm saying. Ain't nothing wrong
to say. Man, I got paid to take that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Nobody's gonna do that. Nobody's gonna do that, nobody, everybody, everybody, Yeah,
that's not gonna happen. But uh so we all gave.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Goats, great, great answers, and then we then we then
we hit a curveball.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I hit a curve ball.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
How aware that you know what I'm saying. He did
make the marriage, so you know what I'm saying. I
would have took the money too.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So we got a curve ball. Conspiracy theory thing from
big Thing. I'm just saying, you threw a curve ball
with that. Man.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
All I know is this shot could have went to
any era of that basketball. I don't care what era.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The results would be the same. Dominans, I'd agree.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Nothing that you can do about it. I agree with
five hundred pounds of.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Twinkleton him and Will would have some he knows some
bad battle of what and then Will would have had
some battle.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Hold hold, Will, I'm glad you that you probably can
block my shot. You probably do all that. Right, I
got another I got tools in his bag. I can
go ahead and start passing this battle. Don't know what
was body?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Will?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
He ain't saying nothing about it. I'm not talking about
He just went about. He just went into size. I
said nothing about size. I said, Will, you may be
able to block my shot.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You might have been stronger.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I even get with me. He was so strong.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Will have about that?
Speaker 8 (30:44):
But how many career assistance Will Chamberlain had Let me put.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
It to you like this, Hey, Will was averaging fifty
points a night. I no, no, no, no, no, I
want to play. You gotta let me finish it now.
Isaiah the Great said this thing, right?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Will said, I'm gonna leave the league in assists the
next season and still let the league in scoring. Hello,
that means I passed the ball and I still leave.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
The league scoring.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
So what's the problem.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And he giving you and the end of the other, Yeah,
he's given you defense. He's giving you blocks on the ball. Boy.
The medles of beat stopping.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
So now you're gonna. Now you're gonna when I pull
up a Will stat on you. You know what I'm
saying to show he got more blocked and he got more.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
I want to go to you, what's the competition level?
As long as what's the competition level? That Will played again,
it was not It was not a lot of big
men we're talking about. No wait, wait, we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Well hold on higher loan.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Me finish ain't suing higher before they searched.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
High and loaf for big men to be shocked.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
They would have got yows, they would have got pounds,
they wouldn't got styles and all.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Kind of guys from overseass what I was gonna say, Hello,
Africans play with the man kids, all of them kids.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
They bring all of them kids, Africans, Americans.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Indians all can nobody do nothing with shack. They even
bought a yow a pow.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Your car going on.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They cannot do nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Somebody just got you. No, that's one just got you.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Nobody somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Car. Hey.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
So that's convos from the shop today. I had to
stop in and hear everybody's greatest of all time. Remember
we are lied we are lied.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It wasn't no saving foot. People on the planet there
want stop.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What he said. We can't what you say? What you
gotta say?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Nah, they got.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
What's what's his name?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
This was Glad against the oh Man, live from tanks,
world class supreme barbers Coach lost, Big Tank and everybody else.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Peace,
Convoys from the Barbie Shop with world class, Supreme Barbie Shop.
That's right, Supreme will always be in whenever I talk.
It ain't just world class and supreme.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
When I'm here, they call me the Supreme leader. That's
Big tank. Everybody introduced themselves. They know we're talking to.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'my that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Isaiah. The greatest here too, y'all know how you do?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Y'all got the homeboy, Big Rocco in the house, straight
out of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You know what I'm saying, rolling with his paces to night.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He should roll with him. They gonna get Hey, they
gonna roll right up out this joke, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
They're gonna roll right about this joke for me and you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, me and you, Me and you got too big.
We bet for the series and we bet for the night.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What you talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hey, I forget Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So the topics today in the in the shop, it's
convoys from the shop. We got we got another little
little tanker walking around down there. So combos from the
shop today. The greatest basketball player of all time. And
why we're gonna start off with idy out of love
it here, Yeah, he was the greatest to you in
(01:17):
your eyes, my goat is still m J. And why
and I'll tell you why. Lebron is a close second.
But and when Lebron retired, he will be numbers. He
will be the go But I really say he can't
be the goat right now because he's still playing.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Okay, I agree with that, and I can the conversation
that will keep changing every year he keeps playing.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know what I'm saying, he only adding to what
he already done.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I give Lebron another I think he's gonna play with
his youngest son, So I'll say three years, so you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Have you think he'll have another one come out of
school too to go play with.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The youngest is a good player Arizona.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah yeah, But what I'm saying, so he's gonna play
two years and Arizon day like.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Get Lebron three more at the most and after that
the rapper MJ. And no disrespect to the MJ. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
He changed the game many different ways, but I produce it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
The way on the court, basketball talent, it is Lebron.
But right now still MJ because Lebron is still adding
to it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, all right, okay, and and so we're gonna move
on this. Who you say is the greatest of all time?
Speaker 6 (02:29):
So look, I'm just smart. I agree with Rot the
greatest of all time. If I had to change my game,
or if I was to replica of my game, I
would replicank my game from Larry Bird.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And the reason why.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Larry Bird Okay, go ahead, why.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Larry Bird seither to me? Larry Bird gets as much
credit as he should.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
If Larry Bird would have had that magic team, I
think that Larry Bird would have had just as more
rings the imagine.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's just my personal opinion. But if I will, if.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
I member my game, Mary Larry was was all along.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So if you mimicked your game, it would be Larry Bird.
So but he made so as you said, is he
the greatest of all time? To YouTube? Yeah, yes Bird,
Yes so. Now now, because a few minutes ago you're talking.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
About think about it, gave my opportunity, gave a.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Chance to think.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's why I'm saying that gave you a chance to think.
So when you start thinking about it, why do you
say in your mind that Larry Bird is.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm just curious think because because every bird is a
great player, but is a white guy?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Shut up man?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
So Bird for me, for me, that bird, white man
was all around.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
He was he was going for the steals.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You have him going.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh, he could shoot the ball, he.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Could bring it up the court. Look, white man can't jump,
That's about it. But outside of that, and you could
he could.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Joh, I know that. But you know Bird wasn't.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That wasn't his part of his games. He didn't put
that in his weapon throw.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
So when you when you go, as my cousin Lessie
was saying earlier, you go, look today in these players
you talked about, these European players, who do you see?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You mean people? A lot of people say dirt little
wins guy. I'll say, I'll see Larry Bird.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, that's fair enough. Okay, But why you know earlier
I messed up. So we were trying to record this,
I messed up. But but when I messed up, you
had said MJ. Why did you switch from m J
to Bird? When you have to think about because.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Who was you?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Tank?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Don't well, big take I tried to cut you off,
Big Tank, don't like MJ.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But go ahead, I get that.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
When you when you boil down to a statistics or whatever,
it came down six six h Manning Championships, all that
good stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The era of nineties era MJ ran that.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
You know what I'm saying, everybody wanted to be like
Mike right Grays of all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I give m J.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Still, if I was a mimic my game, bro, I
would take Larry Bird like if I.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Was if what we're talking about, mimicking your game.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Okay, you know what, let me finished, give me old
my bad brother trying to get.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
The go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Go ahead, good, go ahead brother, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But said.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Bird, it's the greatest of all time because the simple
factor get.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You from to then because you're from Detroup. Come on, man,
were talking. Bird had hooks in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Bird was a man when he was when he was
playing the eighties, Bird had their own line.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
If the Bird would have Bird would have la Bird
saying Bird, I don't get me wrong, he still had great.
He had no Korean.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Give Bird Koreana and then let's see what the outcome
would be and see how many rings that would have been?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
How many rings?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Bird get four three.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just know I wasn't asking your brother, your brother that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's come chas from the south, But I want you,
I wanted this was one I was asking.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Want to check.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
I want to check his knowledge on his knowledge?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Has Bird had you three? Magic half five?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Ye? Bird would have sent Bird would have had seven.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What you mean if he had Kareem he had got seven?
That one player would have gave him seven rings?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah? What these do do on defense? That's that's all
my king sports. I ain't never heard nobody.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Come up with that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean, this is my first time.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That hell of a scenario. It's true.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I not only think he gets seven, I think he
ended up with about nine.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
If you put up I've never ever ever heard anybody.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Say, y'all gonna put put Bird in Kareemo to.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Let them play together suit on h Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I love Robert Patt. Actually I love Robert pat. Magic
ain't got fire up. Magic don't get fired.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Up without without Kareem without.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
He got get too.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He got that one that the show Magic might get
to know what.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'm saying, Okay, he might.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Get too because they was loaded up. They end up
getting James Worthy. A lot of people don't get.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But they got they got worthy of the year that
they won the first one when before before they won
the first one, they got worthy right before, yeah, right
before they wanted they won.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
The World Happenionship.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Still the number one, the number one pick in the
draft of.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
What kind of stacked and you know what I'm saying,
locked and loaded stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The NBA was going, okay, So so you you you
said burd that one was one I wasn't expected, all right,
Isaida great? I know you were talking about m J. No.
You know you said shat.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I said, I'm gonna say this a yeah, and I
hope everybody get here. When you when you when you
say greatest player of all turn you speaking of the individual? Yes,
not who has the champion chimps and who as with
the team, because that's the championshipions, the team effort and
my and my and my as was always gonna be
(08:18):
the same forever.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Is that.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I believe it. I don't care who you get.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Shaq is the most dominant player of all time. There
is nothing that you can do about it. There's nothing
that he's.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The greatest player of all time, the most dominant. There's
nothing that nobody could do about it.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
Listen here, but over to listen here this is that's
the defensive side.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
We're gonna talk about the defensive side.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
The man gave you two thousand and seven blocks throughout
the nineteen years. Hold up, hold up, hold on, that's
one point nine blocks a game.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He going out here.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
We're gonna go on for the numbers and then hold on,
hold up, where.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Are you talking about scoring?
Speaker 8 (08:52):
He gave you over three thy twenty six assists career assists.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's two point nine assists per game that he giving
you the business. This is not even putting the ball
in the hoop.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
We are talking about were talking about and we're talking
about the dude that seven foot tall give at seven
foot one, four hundred pounds, but him have given you this,
and you're talking about somebody dominant. Who was the great?
What great? What I'm saying this? And the dudes that
they mentioned it like Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan. What did
Michael Jordan do on defense? What did Michael Jordan doing?
The passing column? What is Michael Jordan doing other? And
(09:27):
assist column? Nothing? Nothing? And this is why you say
who is the greatest? Michael Jordan's greatest said what putting
the ball in the hoop? Because that's all he did.
He'll shoot you in the game and shoot you out
a game. Watch him do it both. He Hey, we're
gonna talk about the Hey, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
About the stats. Hey, Hey, Hey.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
We're gonna talk about Hey, Hey, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
About how how he went out there and the Lakers
he was giving him the works in nineteen ninety one,
giving them at all he can handle.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
Woo hey whoo. But hey, Mike's the greatest. Michael great
is I'm just saying great, Michael the great? Hey, okay,
so how do you let me ask.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You a question? People said that about shot. You know
this is a big thing. Tell hold holds you ready
for this. I'm a bush your I'm gonna bust your
head real quick. Check this out. Who bust you out?
Check this out? This is my little Neise. Check this out, littlenie.
I'm gonna give you a statistic. You like you like
you like Steph Curry? Right, you can shoot really good,
great shooter, bright shooter.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
Hey guess who guess who's tied with free throws with him.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And Steph Curry's career right now, guess who's tied with it?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Shot?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh yeah you want to yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Yeah, no, no free throws made? Who cares about how
many free throwsies? So when you speak about when you
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, yeah, we
speaking about the great, we speak about a great player.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's he's a great shooter. Okay, so this is a
great shooter.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
If you all agree that until I brought that statistic out.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Here's a great shooter. He's actual a great shooter.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, all the grave that
step is a great shooter. But check this out occurred
to my calculation, everybody else, him and Sequille O'Neill made
the same amount of career free pro Today's I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I like that? All right now we're going alright, one,
give me one one. You go to one. Who you
got one? Who's the great greatest player of all time?
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Come back to me?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Come back to you?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, no, no, okay, because see now in your mindset,
you're gonna see you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
How do you not one? You ten?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So in your ten years, who's been the best player
you've ever saw that you saw played basketball? You're the
best player you saw because you just see Michael chroiting
them play his granddad and you showed him. Need to
see him.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Who do you say? Okay, who do you like? What
basketball team? You like?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
A great shooter?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I have a person? What's his namet? Who? Magic Johnson?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Like magic? Like magic?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Okay, all right, that's cool, that's cool man, that's cool.
We'll take that all here. Let's go Let's go with
the talking here. Let's go with number one. Let's go
with the talking. He all right, who you Michael Jordan's okay?
And why you told me last time? And I messed up?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Because he elevated the game. He laid the blueprint. Shoot,
are you needed.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
What he he elevated the game to you? And know
what I'm saying, question he.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Elevated the game? And what way to you?
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Cos I would say, just how just how the n
B A like right blossom? Because now right because now
you got every team got what they call a Michael Jordan,
you know what I mean, like we got it like
the Nuggets got the Jamal Murray or you know what
(12:52):
I mean. You got your job, Marins, you got your
uh man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You definitely you definitely your your daddy's daughter. You're definitely
your daddy's daughter. That's the show.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You are your dad, your daddy's daughter, right not Yeah, No,
that's true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Met me at the.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Bottom, convos at the shop. Now we're going to big
tank and this here should be interesting. Hopefully he don't
bring up anybody that was born in the UH in
the in the two thousands and say they the greatest. Yeah,
because hopefully don't say, hey, he don't.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Say can't man or anything like that. Somebody is born
in two thousand. I just saying you're gonna be I
don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I just don't want to pick nobody that's born into
two thousands.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Okay, bottom line, lou Our Junior is the greatest basketball player.
And while you say not only that, he's the most decorated,
you know what I'm saying. No, if we're gonna go
by numbers and all this and that, Louis Sandors the.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Greatest, period, we go with the numbers period.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
If you just want to go, you just want.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
To go by number number.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
But in the word a great he has the numbers
and the longevity to show, hey, man, I was.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
The best twenty years.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Kareem played twenty years, Kareema years. I'm not saying Shaq
wasn't a good player up into man, let me tell
you something, man, Okay, the basket, I'm gonna put it
to you. Like this basketball, they have errors right in basketball. Okay,
We're gonna say George Miken had his era, right, Okay,
Then we're gonna hut after that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Then we're gonna say Bill Russell had his era.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
You know what I'm saying, but you but he had
to share his era with a guy by the name
of who will Okay, all right, so now hold up.
Now in nineteen sixty nine, you know, shut all that down. Okay,
I'm just I'm giving you basketball errors. It was a
guy by the name of Louis Alsindor Junior who changed
his name to Kareem My dudes, Jakar Jabbar came in
(15:03):
and changed the game. They even outlawed the dump because
of him. Understand what I'm saying. So that's how dominated
he was. So he had to learn. Hold up, they learned.
They teached him the skyhook, unblockable shot. All right, So
now let me let me continue, let me continue on,
go ahead. So he hey, he dominated the game.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know what I'm saying. But you know, the thing was, he.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Became a Muslim, and and it's you know, it's stuff
outside the game that played part of it. While they
why people don't think of him as he's the greatest
because he's a muscle. You understand what I'm saying. People
don't look at him and be like, oh man, you know, uh,
you know what I'm saying. We can't we can't buy
the game off a Muslim guy.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So so you know, with him, his whole era was
almost like a ten year spin, you know what I'm saying,
by himself. And then you had this guy by the
name of Tragic Johnson and Larry Bird coming too the league,
and they jumped on that and sold the lead he
GoF of racism at that time. You know what I'm saying,
the black and white You know what I'm standing. What
I'm saying, which is cool, all right, everything is fine,
(16:07):
But you know what I'm saying. You know that was
that was those two era, right, and then they carried
the air all the way into ninety one. And then
you give it to Michael Jordan. He took the mantlets
they sold the league off of you know what I'm saying. Basically,
they made it a Nike commercial for you know what
I'm saying for years to come for about that's my back,
that's my box, y'all get that box.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I need that. I need that. Hold on, baby, let
me finish that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So when he I was at the Michael Jordan, Yeah,
when he came part of his era. Now after the
Mike Arab was going, Mike retired, Guess who guess who
was there? You know who the great player was, Penny No,
y'all won't believe it when I tell you it's a
guy by the name of Grant Hill, the most unstoppable
dude playing in the league for a two year span maybe.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Three when he got hurt.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
But he got hurt and went thirty years. But he
was he was hurt before he was hurt. So so
so brand Hill, Brand Hill. So so Mike comes back,
even Brant Hill still was the best player in the game,
even when Mike came back. All right, just follow one,
I'm gone and then here comes Mike come back. He's
not even better than Grand Hill. So Mike era was gone.
(17:19):
Mike still was a good player because he still had
a great team. Mike had a great team. But you
know what I'm saying. Oh, but from that from that time,
From that time was brand Hill coming into the game.
For three years, he was the best. Now after the
Grand Hill era, it was this guy named Shaquille O'Neill.
Shaquille O'Neill. Shaquille still had to share his error though, no,
(17:44):
he no, he didn't. He had to share with a
guy by the name of Tim Duncan you understand what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
He had to share.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
He had to share his error with a guy by
the name of Tim Duncan he understand what I'm saying.
And actually, Shap was the best player in the league
at the time, but he had to share his era
with Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. They were the best
best in the game. You understand, I'm giving you the
three best players in the game, Shaq, Duncan, Garnet, bar none,
(18:16):
nobody else can say nothing else?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
All right?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
And yeah, so so now y'all keep hollering this motherfucker's
name and I'm just being.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Honest with you. You have to you have to understand.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Hold time out, Okay, So okay, So Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Was not better than Alan? What Alan? Okay?
Speaker 4 (18:45):
All right, I'm getting I'm giving you the fanses of
the game.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Kobe was not the best player in the game. Okay, Well,
how many f vps did he win in that time
span and that timestand up?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I'm steady trying to tell you and I'm giving you
the game. Are we talking about the best players in
the game?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Motherfuckers is wearing braids because of Alan? You understand what
I'm saying. I'm trying to tell you. I'm just keeping
it real with y'all.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So now, so how many rings if you would have
had set?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
How many rings with Ai? If he didn't go into Philadelphia,
if he didn't play the New York in LA? You
understand I'm saying, it's been a different thing.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Don't make me do that. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Tracy, Tracy mcbrady is a better player than Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
He just happened to play in different places.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Had he been able to sit still in LA like
Kobe Bryant did, he would have people would have seen that.
Kobe Bryant's not a goal You know what I'm saying
he's a good player who happened to stay in one place.
And you know what I'm saying, and everybody looks at
it in a major media market.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He's not better than you know what I'm saying, team mate.
But let me continue on.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Okay, So, now after Alan Iverson had the league, who
was there next? No, it's a guy by the name
of Lebron James. Lebron James, Lebron James had the league
on the lock Lebron No, no, no, he just he
just Kobe never had an error? Do you hear what
I just said? Come on, man, how many people are
(20:11):
sitting up there? Kobe never had an error?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Kobe? What what?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
What?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Kobe had the rapist what you call that the rapist era?
And he was he was, yeah, you and then you're
gonna you're gonna be worth.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You can't do that. I'm kidding out. Kobe's a bum.
He's a He's a bum on this on on this
radio show.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, So you know I did.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Kobe's great. Kobe was a great player.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Just not a goat in your eyes? Never Okay, Ed
Okay Jones, you call me like that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Do you you? I'm kind of you and man like.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
That me and him got on it. I don't know
if you listen to our show the other day, but
you know what I'm saying. It's stuff that I didn't
mention on purpose. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I call that white white white America, White America. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
White America accepts you. You understand what I'm saying. You're
gonna make it. You're gonna be great. White America didn't
accept Kobe until death. That's why people speak.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Great on Kobe. Now I'm just being honest with you. Now.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
The thing with a white America is not accepting him
because he's out there.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
He's still in, you know, in the lanes, messing with
you know what I'm saying, hood rats girls with Bubba butts.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He ain't doing what Shae Gilg is Alexander's over there doing,
kissing white babies and all that kind of stuff and
kicking it. I'm just calling it what it is. You
know what I'm saying, he ain't got his white privileged
card like as g a as You see what I'm saying,
but you know what I'm saying the bottom on this
right now, I gotta give it to Jack.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know what I'm saying. It's his era. He he
three years in as.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Far as that get out of that smoke, son. So
what I'm saying is, yeah, that's you know what I'm
saying right now is Jack Lee.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm gonna disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
You can, you can, but it's his era.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
This is what three years? You know what I.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Al wanst say. I don't want to say five years
even though he only got three champions.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But what I'm saying is over a three year span,
he's been the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay, And you know what's crazy, it's his Here's here's
what's crazy with that tank. If you look back Michael Jordan's,
look back at uh Shaquille O'Neal, look back at almost
every player that we just talked about in here, they
had an era of that many years where they were unstoppable.
Shack had longer than that. But with Joker the way
(22:59):
he's playing right now, Yeah, I say, I said, it's
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Great.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Ye back on he back on Fantasy Mode video game
over the well on his building player. You don't think
he been on his building player.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
For what's going on? You?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Okay, So to me, the greatest who I think is
the greatest player of all time is Magic Johnson for
a couple of different reasons. Magic because he made he
may yeah, but he he has made every player around
him better. He won a championship in college. His first
year in the NBA, he won a championship. You know,
(23:45):
Magic doesn't come down with the AIDS virus. He doesn't
retire in ninety one. He continues to play. He has
five championships here.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
We don't know that. We don't know that, Tam, We
don't know that. We don't know that.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
If you look at what he had.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's got nothing to do with it. He could have
played to at least wait, he could have played at
least in ninety six ninety seven. I still think that
they would have put a team around him.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He would have won one more. Because they talked.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Everybody say Jordan is the greatest, most people because Jordan,
because Jordan won six. He won six, And they talk
about le Bron is not good because he.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Won four, but he went the ten ships. Yeah, Michael
Jordan won six, but he wanted he went to six
and he won six. But that doesn't mean he's a
great one.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
How many times did he get his ass kicks?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, the Detroit Pistons a lot of teams.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
At the eighties.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Man, it was either the Lakers or the Celtics in
the championship every year.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Every year.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Every year, it was either the Lakers of the Celtics
in the championship. If they wasn't playing each other, one
of the two was in the championship every year in
the eight So come on, he's not doing that without cares.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I want to understand difference.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Come on, it's just like it's just like the thing
with Kobe and Shot right.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
He came out first year shot period.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I agree to that.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
If you don't have this other guy that don't get.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Over the top, you gotta have him to make it right.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
And Magic Johnson was the guy because Ring back then
still was giving me the last twenty seven sixteen.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
No, that's true, Queen's still giving me twenty seven and sixty.
I still Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Might be putting it in work, but he ain't got
me check over. You know what, I'm saying it was
the card. You gotta get me the.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Ball first, one hundred percent. But to me, I'm going
with Magic. That's my goal. You feel the only only
for that reason. That's why I say that, only because
I feel like you made everybody better.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Question, man, I know you mentioned that HIV theory, right, yeah,
so check this out.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So if Magic you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Do you feel like Magic got the disease or he
got paid for the disease like that?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Wow? Wow, that's that's cold. I never john I think
he got the disease. Do you think he got paid
for the disease?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
How much is Magic Johnson right now? Today?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He's he's over a billion.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Close to a billion, about about seventh maybe about.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So you think that his aide diagnosis?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I mean HIV? I'm sorry him, Sorry he told so
he got.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How much money did Magic Johnson make when he was
playing basketball.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And he wasn't making a lot?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
How much money was he working? Was worth more?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
After that?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You're telling me a man or retiring nineteen ninety two,
he got a pass when he throw it around and
he only made about forty million in his you know.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
In his career, he flips that like Kobe, like this
Kobe coming through the last in these few years.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Cold.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
It ain't like he came up with the dot com stuff,
you know what I'm and he didn't come up with
none of that.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
All the other businesses that you had, they were businesses in.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
So you told me how he flips that money into
you know what I'm saying, into basically quarter billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You you right now, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Take I'm stuck. I'm stuck because you stuck me with this,
this this, this game out of nowhere. I never thought
about any of that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Magic the greatest businessman. I wouldn't
say he's the.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Greatest business one of them, Yeah, because Junior.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Bridgman was the man. He was the man you know
what I'm saying that made it happen. You know what
I'm saying. He took his money and made it.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well well hold on, wait right, wait, where are you
coming from with this stuff?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Where you coming from with this?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Because you said, Maggie Johnson, you know what I'm saying,
when they called it and all this and that, Magie.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Johnson got so you saying he was.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Question what he did was bring a lot of light
to the world with you know what I'm saying, with
him taking on a HI. You know what I'm saying,
a lot more people were aware of that.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You understand what I'm saying. Magic one not worth nothing
but about forty million.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
All Magic did was you know what I'm saying, You
got paid. He got paid to speak. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You know he said speaking out and speak to people
and get paid for You understand what I'm saying. But
what I'm getting that is Magic Johnson.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
To take the price.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Now, that's why people are talking.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
About he undetectable today twenty.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Five likest of my charge results.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm just saying, yeah, I don't know, I never heard that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
But my whole thing is the whole thing with Magic
Johnson got magic. I feel these athletes to speak real before.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
You know what I'm saying, before it's too lately means
you know what I'm saying, to speaking like, we're gonna
get Minel, We're gonna get a guy by the name
of Michael joining on the microphone. Who's joining You know
what I'm saying this side of the microphone, you know,
on the next NBA season.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
You see what I'm saying, So you know what I mean.
It's it's different. You know what I'm saying. But you know,
I want you to speak real with you people. Man,
you know you know what I'm saying. Ain't nothing wrong
to say. Man, I got paid to take that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Nobody's gonna do that. Nobody's gonna do that, nobody, everybody, everybody, Yeah,
that's not gonna happen. But uh so we all gave.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Goats, great, great answers, and then we then we then
we hit a curveball.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I hit a curve ball.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
How aware that you know what I'm saying. He did
make the marriage, so you know what I'm saying. I
would have took the money too.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So we got a curve ball. Conspiracy theory thing from
big Thing. I'm just saying, you threw a curve ball
with that. Man.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
All I know is this shot could have went to
any era of that basketball. I don't care what era.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The results would be the same. Dominans, I'd agree.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Nothing that you can do about it. I agree with
five hundred pounds of.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Twinkleton him and Will would have some he knows some
bad battle of what and then Will would have had
some battle.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Hold hold, Will, I'm glad you that you probably can
block my shot. You probably do all that. Right, I
got another I got tools in his bag. I can
go ahead and start passing this battle. Don't know what
was body?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Will?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
He ain't saying nothing about it. I'm not talking about
He just went about. He just went into size. I
said nothing about size. I said, Will, you may be
able to block my shot.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You might have been stronger.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I even get with me. He was so strong.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Will have about that?
Speaker 8 (30:44):
But how many career assistance Will Chamberlain had Let me put.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
It to you like this, Hey, Will was averaging fifty
points a night. I no, no, no, no, no, I
want to play. You gotta let me finish it now.
Isaiah the Great said this thing, right?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Will said, I'm gonna leave the league in assists the
next season and still let the league in scoring. Hello,
that means I passed the ball and I still leave.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
The league scoring.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
So what's the problem.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And he giving you and the end of the other, Yeah,
he's given you defense. He's giving you blocks on the ball. Boy.
The medles of beat stopping.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
So now you're gonna. Now you're gonna when I pull
up a Will stat on you. You know what I'm
saying to show he got more blocked and he got more.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
I want to go to you, what's the competition level?
As long as what's the competition level? That Will played again,
it was not It was not a lot of big
men we're talking about. No wait, wait, we're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Well hold on higher loan.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Me finish ain't suing higher before they searched.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
High and loaf for big men to be shocked.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
They would have got yows, they would have got pounds,
they wouldn't got styles and all.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Kind of guys from overseass what I was gonna say, Hello,
Africans play with the man kids, all of them kids.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
They bring all of them kids, Africans, Americans.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Indians all can nobody do nothing with shack. They even
bought a yow a pow.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Your car going on.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They cannot do nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Somebody just got you. No, that's one just got you.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Nobody somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Car. Hey.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
So that's convos from the shop today. I had to
stop in and hear everybody's greatest of all time. Remember
we are lied we are lied.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It wasn't no saving foot. People on the planet there
want stop.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What he said. We can't what you say? What you
gotta say?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Nah, they got.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
What's what's his name?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
This was Glad against the oh Man, live from tanks,
world class supreme barbers Coach lost, Big Tank and everybody else.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Peace,
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