In Part 2 of our Commanders Briefing interview with Lt. Colonel (MD) Barry Greene, the President of The State Guard Association of The United States (SGAUS), we tackle a significant and often-debated topic within the State Defense Force community—The Florida State Guard.Our discussion begins with a pressing question: Does SGAUS recognize The Florida State Guard as an official State Defense Force under federal law 32 U.S.C. § 109? Lt. Col. Greene provides his perspective on whether Florida’s newly reestablished force meets the criteria set forth in federal law that governs state military organizations. Unlike traditional State Defense Forces, which operate under the State Adjutant General as uniformed military components, The Florida State Guard is classified as a civilian organization, separate from The Florida National Guard and is not held to The Florida Military Law & Regulation (Title XVII – MILITARY AFFAIRS AND RELATED MATTERS – Chapter 250 MILITARY AFFAIRS – MILITARY CODE (ss. 250.01-250.5206)). You can learn more about our Florida State Guard coverage in a previous Commanders Briefing we did with a former Non-Commissioned Officer of The Florida State Guard -> Here.As the conversation unfolds, we explain why StateDefenseForce.com does not endorse The Florida State Guard or recognize them as part of the greater State Defense Force family. The discussion highlights key concerns, including their lack of military authority, training standards, and chain of command, which differ significantly from established State Defense Forces such as those in Texas, Georgia, and Virginia. Unlike these forces—which are bound by military regulations and operate in tandem with their National Guard counterparts—The Florida State Guard’s structure and governance raise questions about its operational credibility. Our host also addresses whether Florida’s model could set a dangerous precedent for other states seeking to establish similar organizations outside of military oversight.Later in the interview, we touch on a broader issue regarding the enforcement of State Military Laws and Regulations within State Defense Forces. Lt. Col. Greene states that he has never heard of a State Defense Force member being visited by the Police for going AWOL or failing to follow orders. However, StateDefenseForce.com is aware that these laws are indeed enforced in State Defense Forces across the country. In fact, we are aware of a case in New York, where a New York Guard member was arrested by a Police Officer for abandoning his Basic Training—a clear example of how State Military Regulations are taken seriously and enforced.This episode provides a deep and critical examination of The Florida State Guard’s legitimacy, the importance of maintaining professional military standards in State Defense Forces, and the reality of military regulations that govern these organizations. It’s a must-listen for anyone invested in the future of State Defense Forces and the challenges they face.We have tried to reach out multiple times to The Florida State Guard Public Affairs Office to confirm if they have been converted to a military organization and have reformed the organization under a military model. We have yet to hear back. Our email is always open at -> staff@statedefenseforce.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Colonel c McAdams, Sr. And other Patreon members. Support us
at patreon dot com. Forward slash State Defense Force.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You mentioned Florida State Guard. I wanted to get your
opinion on the Florida State Guard. We've had some mixed messages.
Officially there, I identified themselves as a state defense force. However,
they are not attached to the same military rules and
(00:38):
regulations that govern the Florida National Guard. Every time I've
spoken to people within the Florida State Guard, there are
mixed messages. Once will say that they are a military structure,
(00:58):
but as civilian organizer. Others say there is a pavilion organization.
What are your thoughts on the Florida State Guard. Are
they an official state defense force and how do you
view their organizational structure.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, first I will tell I'm going to wear two
hats and answer your question two different ways. The first
hat I'm going to wear is that as the Saugust President,
because that's kind of the underpinnings of why we're here today.
So first off, as the Saugust President, I'm going to
tell you we absolutely recognized the Florida State Guard. The
Florida State Guard was lawfully founded under Title thirty two,
(01:40):
and in fact, the legislation I shouldn't say the legislation.
The statutes that created the Florida State Guard basically date
back to World War Two and have been in the
Florida legislation published since that time. And part of the
reason that I know this is that in twenty seventeen,
twenty seventeen, or it was twenty eighteen, might have been
(02:03):
twenty eighteen, I was part of a delegation that was
sent by Saugus to meet with some of the leadership
of the Adjutant General's Office for the State of Florida
to specifically discuss what we could do in the formation
in assistance the formation of a Florida State Guard. So
I'm familiar with it all the way back to underpinnings
(02:25):
before it was even introduced as new legislation. I will
tell you Florida recognizes them. I'm sorry, Saugus represents me.
Absolutely recognizes Florida State Guard. We absolutely value the relationships
we've had so far with two executive directors of the
(02:47):
Florida State Guard. We have a number and growing number
of members in Saugus that are active members of the
Florida State Guard, and we value them too, and we
will do absolutely everything that for Florida that we have
done with every other state that has reached out to us,
even states without state defense forces. Is We're there to help.
(03:09):
That is our job, that is our role, and from
our perspective, that's fine. Now I'm going to take a
different approach. I'm going to put a different hat on.
Some of your listeners may not be aware of this,
but I am a proud resident of the state of Florida.
My primary home is here, and I have been a
(03:32):
resident of Florida before, during, and after the formation of
the Florida State Guard. And I know personally a number
of people serving in the Florida State Guard, and I'm
proud to know those people first and foremost. I've been
reading some interesting journalism. I say interesting that if any
(03:52):
of you could see me, I would put interesting in
air quotes. Okay, the journalism that has been covering the
Florida State Guard is well as a number of very
slanted interviews that I've listened to, not on this particular channel,
but some others go one extreme or the other. And
(04:14):
mind you, this is the local press too. Is the
Florida State Guard. The men and women that serve in
the Florida State Guard are either being presented by the
media as freedom fighters that are veterans that are being
brought in to be armed by the states, that are
clearly going to be resisting federal forces and federal government incursions,
(04:39):
almost sounding like the South shall rise again. Okay, and
that's a bunch of nonsense. Okay. I would not support
such a narrative, nor do I believe that any moral
military officer that has raised their right hand would in
this country in the sense that taking up arms against
the state or the federal government is is unlawful, unjust,
(05:02):
and frankly, we're blessed to live in it, uh, in
a republic such as we live in, the fact of
the matter is we still pick our leaders. And that's
a beautiful thing. That being said, they're also painted by
the other extreme of the media as some form of
gestapo uh, being put together by certain you know, evil
(05:26):
politicians to be used as a personal police force and
and whatnot. I would tell you I am a third
generation Jewish American servicemen and fiercely proud of it. Both
of my grandfathers UH served as civil defense in World
War Two. They were both too old to serve. Both
(05:46):
of my wife's grandfathers served on the ground in Europe
or Africa with the US Army. So we are very
very much a service oriented family here. I'm here to
tell you any discussion about ghoo like nonsense with the
Florida State Guard again, you are slapping in the face
of the brave volunteers, the men and the women that
(06:09):
are no different than probably ninety nine percent of the
people listening to this podcast that raised the right hand
and said there's something bigger than me, and I need
to help American citizens when they're in trouble. And guess what,
that's exactly what Florida State Guard has been doing. A
buddy of mine has now been boots on the ground
(06:30):
in three states with Florida State Guard activation, paid on
the ground in a camouflage uniform in three states. And
what was he doing humanitarian aid response, plainly and simple
augmenting uniform services. There exactly what the state defense forces
(06:52):
are supposed to be doing. In fact, I'm triply proud
of Florida because when in North Carolina. We were able
to deploy specialty missions and equipment the likes of which
the DoD has probably never seen because it was specialty
equipment for search and rescue operations in flood operations, which
(07:12):
is something Florida's State Guard is uniquely equipped now and
trained to work with. So I look at every member
of the Florida State Guard as a hero. They are
absolutely living up one hundred percent to everything that we
should hope that a state guard should be. And when
(07:34):
people are now pointing at Florida now with its multi
million dollar budget and also sitting there going oh, I
had one State Guard commander actually say to me, well,
that's the State Guard of the future, and I looked
at him and I said, no, General, that is the
State Guard of the present. Every other state defense force
has to catch up now with regards to budget and capabilities,
(07:57):
because what Florida has actually done with its State Defense
Force is what most of us have been working towards
for years, which is specialized training and equipment for people
that are capable and trained to be ready to respond
to American citizens in trouble. And that, to me, there
is no better reason to put on a uniform and
(08:20):
go sit in an unair conditioned or unheated building, which
is what most of us in the military. You know,
that's our drill. Wee get spent a weekend in an
un air conditioned or unheated building, often looking at PowerPoint
slides or doing lots and lots of paperwork and bureaucracy
and training. But the simple reality and truth is that
we all do it because we want to help our communities.
(08:41):
Florida has been doing exactly that, and I can only
look at Florida's leadership and go, good on you, stick
to it. Anything that we can do at Saugust to
support you, we will do. And for all of you
other state defense forces, you need to be learned more
from Florida in terms of the specialized training and equipment
(09:04):
they are starting to acquire for their people, because it's
made them not only valuable to the Florida citizens. The
fact that we in Florida have been able to send
our troops into other states with specialized gear to save lives.
Nothing could make me prouder nothing then knowing that those
men and women are trained and capable and equipped.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So God bless the Florida State Guard and all I
can say is that every one of us in the
State Guard we should be cheering and on top of that,
we should be learning from them as to again, like
everybody else, what's working, what isn't working, and how can
we all do this better?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I guess I just want to kind of the reason
why we at State Defenseforce dot Com have not recommend
that joining the Florida State Guard is because the designation
of them being a civilian organization that they're not held
(10:09):
to the state UCMJ. Every state has their uniform Code
to Military Justices, basically a copy and paste of the
federal UCMJ. Maryland, Georgia, Texas State Guard all are attached
to the same military rules and regulations of that hold
(10:31):
to their Air National Guard and or the National Guard.
The Florida State Guard are not. They were in the
legislation and the individuals that we spoke to they were
going to develop their own set of policies. I guess
our conflict with it is the designation of them as
(10:56):
a civilian organization. I feel like that becomes a bigger
issue because, for example, if you're in a New York
Guard and you're doing shelter operations, right, and you're told
to stand guard at this food room that has all
the food for all the shelter occupants.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
If you, as a state guardsman, decided to say, you
know what, this is not for me, I'm going home.
I'm gonna go see my wife, spend time with my kids,
and you leave. Don't tell Chaine a command go home.
You're subject to that state UCMJ and can be prosecuted
a civilian organization if you are assigned to that, and
(11:46):
you are not held to a military uniform code a
military justice, those rules and regulations can actually just walk
away and next thing you know at that room is
picked clean, and then you know you have liability issues.
(12:06):
Then the state guard becomes a liability. What are your
thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I have no thoughts on that. Just simple fact in
the sense that if first off, UCMJ only applies to
federal military plainly and simply, it does not apply to
state guards specifically, because state guards are state agencies. Now,
certain military departments use UCMJ as guidance for operation of
(12:34):
their sdfs. They also a number of states have created
their own military regulations that are state military regulations that
create a third level of complexity to the question that
you just asked, But ultimately it comes back to first off,
under UCMJ, there are you know, a wall away without leave,
(12:56):
dereliction of duty. Some of these are arrestable offenses. Well,
I have yet to ever hear of a state Defense
force unpaid worker that has been visited by a sheriff
because they went away without leave or whatnot. And it's
not to encourage that kind of behavior, it's just the enforcement.
(13:18):
It gets back to my legality versus reality scenario. Everybody
points to certain levels of regulations and statute, particularly when
they need guidance. Where there is none, you go to
the statutes, but ultimately it's also a choice of command
as to whether or not to enforce. But your specific
question was about the Florida State Guard. Now, I do
(13:40):
not have specific understanding of Florida State Guard's internal or
external regulations. I have not read Florida's specific statutes regarding
to its state agencies. I have read their statute regarding
the State Guard as it existed a few years ago,
but I'm sure that's been changed. I haven't read it
since I haven't needed to. But what I would tell
(14:01):
you is they are technically a state agency, and they
are a uniform state agency, which puts them under exactly
the same blanket as the state police. So you could
also sit there going, well, if a state police person
doesn't show up for work for three days in a row,
do you think anybody calls them? If they had you know,
duty hours that were posted it at the barracks, do
(14:26):
you think somebody might call them? Do you think somebody
might actually arrest them ultimately if they really go you know?
And the answer is there are all kinds of state
statutes and things like that that governed state workers as
well based on their capacity. Add another complexity, if those
individuals are being paid with federal funds, there are a
myriad of federal statutes that may overhang that. Which is
(14:49):
why during JRSI, which is your induction, when you mobilize
a bunch of people in uniform, you bring them all
through an intake point, they have to sign off on
lots of forms. A lot of those forms are signing
off your agreement to be bounds to particular laws or
statutes to be paid in that activation or capacity. So
(15:13):
it's one of those of I can't answer in specifics.
The Florida question, because I don't know off the top
of my head which regulations Florida Florida State Guard falls under,
because I haven't read them. But I would tell you
that this is not a group of yahoo's working out
of a room with no windows, with no oversight. They
are technically a state agency. They are funded with taxpayer money,
(15:36):
and therefore, for the same regulations that would require state
police or firefighters, or search and rescue or any of
the Florida agencies, including their emergency response agencies, were uniformed.
That requires them to function under certain regulations. That's probably
what they're functioning under. And then on top of that,
(15:58):
I listened to an interesting podcast with the current executive
director of Florida State Guard recently interviewed, where he was
pointing out that most of the scenarios that Florida State
Guard would be activated under their subordinate to another state
or federal agency. Anyway, Well, that's one hundred percent true.
(16:20):
That is certainly. My experience when I've been deployed is
that I was subordinate to various state and federal agencies,
and as such as leadership, I was given hundreds of
pages of regulations saying as part of this. This is
what you are part of. But this is also your
job in leadership to make sure that when anybody has
(16:42):
any questions you go to these regulations, these are going
to answer them. That's what Florida is dealing with. So
I reject the concept that they are an unlawful hoarde
simply because they're not. They are a legitimate state agency
in a legitimate sovereign state that has and I would
(17:05):
ask you, uh, as a personal request, mister Marciniac, to
reevaluate talk to a few other members now that their
mission they're they're there. These folks now are are are
wearing their covers slanted because they can. As the old
expression for World War Two was where you could if
(17:25):
you if you were a combat that you could wear
your cover in a certain sort of way. Uh. These
folks from the Florida State Guard are coming back now
super experienced. We had three unprecedented hurricanes hit the west
coast of Florida this past year, plus deployments in Texas,
North Carolina. These these are some of the most experienced
(17:48):
State Defense Force people that we as the state Defense
Force community have manufactured that that we've seen in years
and my hat is off to them, and again when
as I take my ye my sagas had off, as
a Florida citizen, I say to all members of the
Florida State Guard, thank you for your service, because I've
(18:09):
seen enough pictures and videos of what you guys and
gals have been doing on the ground, even in our
home state when we have been in need, and I
just I couldn't be not only prouder from the State
Defense fores side, but thankful as a Florida citizen that
you all stood up to serve. You've been doing an
extraordinary job. Please keep up the great work.
This episode was made possible by Dustin Colgrove, Colonel Ben Perry,
Colonel c McAdams, Sr. And other Patreon members. Support us
at patreon dot com. Forward slash State Defense Force.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You mentioned Florida State Guard. I wanted to get your
opinion on the Florida State Guard. We've had some mixed messages.
Officially there, I identified themselves as a state defense force. However,
they are not attached to the same military rules and
(00:38):
regulations that govern the Florida National Guard. Every time I've
spoken to people within the Florida State Guard, there are
mixed messages. Once will say that they are a military structure,
(00:58):
but as civilian organizer. Others say there is a pavilion organization.
What are your thoughts on the Florida State Guard. Are
they an official state defense force and how do you
view their organizational structure.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, first I will tell I'm going to wear two
hats and answer your question two different ways. The first
hat I'm going to wear is that as the Saugust President,
because that's kind of the underpinnings of why we're here today.
So first off, as the Saugust President, I'm going to
tell you we absolutely recognized the Florida State Guard. The
Florida State Guard was lawfully founded under Title thirty two,
(01:40):
and in fact, the legislation I shouldn't say the legislation.
The statutes that created the Florida State Guard basically date
back to World War Two and have been in the
Florida legislation published since that time. And part of the
reason that I know this is that in twenty seventeen,
twenty seventeen, or it was twenty eighteen, might have been
(02:03):
twenty eighteen, I was part of a delegation that was
sent by Saugus to meet with some of the leadership
of the Adjutant General's Office for the State of Florida
to specifically discuss what we could do in the formation
in assistance the formation of a Florida State Guard. So
I'm familiar with it all the way back to underpinnings
(02:25):
before it was even introduced as new legislation. I will
tell you Florida recognizes them. I'm sorry, Saugus represents me.
Absolutely recognizes Florida State Guard. We absolutely value the relationships
we've had so far with two executive directors of the
(02:47):
Florida State Guard. We have a number and growing number
of members in Saugus that are active members of the
Florida State Guard, and we value them too, and we
will do absolutely everything that for Florida that we have
done with every other state that has reached out to us,
even states without state defense forces. Is We're there to help.
(03:09):
That is our job, that is our role, and from
our perspective, that's fine. Now I'm going to take a
different approach. I'm going to put a different hat on.
Some of your listeners may not be aware of this,
but I am a proud resident of the state of Florida.
My primary home is here, and I have been a
(03:32):
resident of Florida before, during, and after the formation of
the Florida State Guard. And I know personally a number
of people serving in the Florida State Guard, and I'm
proud to know those people first and foremost. I've been
reading some interesting journalism. I say interesting that if any
(03:52):
of you could see me, I would put interesting in
air quotes. Okay, the journalism that has been covering the
Florida State Guard is well as a number of very
slanted interviews that I've listened to, not on this particular channel,
but some others go one extreme or the other. And
(04:14):
mind you, this is the local press too. Is the
Florida State Guard. The men and women that serve in
the Florida State Guard are either being presented by the
media as freedom fighters that are veterans that are being
brought in to be armed by the states, that are
clearly going to be resisting federal forces and federal government incursions,
(04:39):
almost sounding like the South shall rise again. Okay, and
that's a bunch of nonsense. Okay. I would not support
such a narrative, nor do I believe that any moral
military officer that has raised their right hand would in
this country in the sense that taking up arms against
the state or the federal government is is unlawful, unjust,
(05:02):
and frankly, we're blessed to live in it, uh, in
a republic such as we live in, the fact of
the matter is we still pick our leaders. And that's
a beautiful thing. That being said, they're also painted by
the other extreme of the media as some form of
gestapo uh, being put together by certain you know, evil
(05:26):
politicians to be used as a personal police force and
and whatnot. I would tell you I am a third
generation Jewish American servicemen and fiercely proud of it. Both
of my grandfathers UH served as civil defense in World
War Two. They were both too old to serve. Both
(05:46):
of my wife's grandfathers served on the ground in Europe
or Africa with the US Army. So we are very
very much a service oriented family here. I'm here to
tell you any discussion about ghoo like nonsense with the
Florida State Guard again, you are slapping in the face
of the brave volunteers, the men and the women that
(06:09):
are no different than probably ninety nine percent of the
people listening to this podcast that raised the right hand
and said there's something bigger than me, and I need
to help American citizens when they're in trouble. And guess what,
that's exactly what Florida State Guard has been doing. A
buddy of mine has now been boots on the ground
(06:30):
in three states with Florida State Guard activation, paid on
the ground in a camouflage uniform in three states. And
what was he doing humanitarian aid response, plainly and simple
augmenting uniform services. There exactly what the state defense forces
(06:52):
are supposed to be doing. In fact, I'm triply proud
of Florida because when in North Carolina. We were able
to deploy specialty missions and equipment the likes of which
the DoD has probably never seen because it was specialty
equipment for search and rescue operations in flood operations, which
(07:12):
is something Florida's State Guard is uniquely equipped now and
trained to work with. So I look at every member
of the Florida State Guard as a hero. They are
absolutely living up one hundred percent to everything that we
should hope that a state guard should be. And when
(07:34):
people are now pointing at Florida now with its multi
million dollar budget and also sitting there going oh, I
had one State Guard commander actually say to me, well,
that's the State Guard of the future, and I looked
at him and I said, no, General, that is the
State Guard of the present. Every other state defense force
has to catch up now with regards to budget and capabilities,
(07:57):
because what Florida has actually done with its State Defense
Force is what most of us have been working towards
for years, which is specialized training and equipment for people
that are capable and trained to be ready to respond
to American citizens in trouble. And that, to me, there
is no better reason to put on a uniform and
(08:20):
go sit in an unair conditioned or unheated building, which
is what most of us in the military. You know,
that's our drill. Wee get spent a weekend in an
un air conditioned or unheated building, often looking at PowerPoint
slides or doing lots and lots of paperwork and bureaucracy
and training. But the simple reality and truth is that
we all do it because we want to help our communities.
(08:41):
Florida has been doing exactly that, and I can only
look at Florida's leadership and go, good on you, stick
to it. Anything that we can do at Saugust to
support you, we will do. And for all of you
other state defense forces, you need to be learned more
from Florida in terms of the specialized training and equipment
(09:04):
they are starting to acquire for their people, because it's
made them not only valuable to the Florida citizens. The
fact that we in Florida have been able to send
our troops into other states with specialized gear to save lives.
Nothing could make me prouder nothing then knowing that those
men and women are trained and capable and equipped.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So God bless the Florida State Guard and all I
can say is that every one of us in the
State Guard we should be cheering and on top of that,
we should be learning from them as to again, like
everybody else, what's working, what isn't working, and how can
we all do this better?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I guess I just want to kind of the reason
why we at State Defenseforce dot Com have not recommend
that joining the Florida State Guard is because the designation
of them being a civilian organization that they're not held
(10:09):
to the state UCMJ. Every state has their uniform Code
to Military Justices, basically a copy and paste of the
federal UCMJ. Maryland, Georgia, Texas State Guard all are attached
to the same military rules and regulations of that hold
(10:31):
to their Air National Guard and or the National Guard.
The Florida State Guard are not. They were in the
legislation and the individuals that we spoke to they were
going to develop their own set of policies. I guess
our conflict with it is the designation of them as
(10:56):
a civilian organization. I feel like that becomes a bigger
issue because, for example, if you're in a New York
Guard and you're doing shelter operations, right, and you're told
to stand guard at this food room that has all
the food for all the shelter occupants.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
If you, as a state guardsman, decided to say, you
know what, this is not for me, I'm going home.
I'm gonna go see my wife, spend time with my kids,
and you leave. Don't tell Chaine a command go home.
You're subject to that state UCMJ and can be prosecuted
a civilian organization if you are assigned to that, and
(11:46):
you are not held to a military uniform code a
military justice, those rules and regulations can actually just walk
away and next thing you know at that room is
picked clean, and then you know you have liability issues.
(12:06):
Then the state guard becomes a liability. What are your
thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I have no thoughts on that. Just simple fact in
the sense that if first off, UCMJ only applies to
federal military plainly and simply, it does not apply to
state guards specifically, because state guards are state agencies. Now,
certain military departments use UCMJ as guidance for operation of
(12:34):
their sdfs. They also a number of states have created
their own military regulations that are state military regulations that
create a third level of complexity to the question that
you just asked, But ultimately it comes back to first off,
under UCMJ, there are you know, a wall away without leave,
(12:56):
dereliction of duty. Some of these are arrestable offenses. Well,
I have yet to ever hear of a state Defense
force unpaid worker that has been visited by a sheriff
because they went away without leave or whatnot. And it's
not to encourage that kind of behavior, it's just the enforcement.
(13:18):
It gets back to my legality versus reality scenario. Everybody
points to certain levels of regulations and statute, particularly when
they need guidance. Where there is none, you go to
the statutes, but ultimately it's also a choice of command
as to whether or not to enforce. But your specific
question was about the Florida State Guard. Now, I do
(13:40):
not have specific understanding of Florida State Guard's internal or
external regulations. I have not read Florida's specific statutes regarding
to its state agencies. I have read their statute regarding
the State Guard as it existed a few years ago,
but I'm sure that's been changed. I haven't read it
since I haven't needed to. But what I would tell
(14:01):
you is they are technically a state agency, and they
are a uniform state agency, which puts them under exactly
the same blanket as the state police. So you could
also sit there going, well, if a state police person
doesn't show up for work for three days in a row,
do you think anybody calls them? If they had you know,
duty hours that were posted it at the barracks, do
(14:26):
you think somebody might call them? Do you think somebody
might actually arrest them ultimately if they really go you know?
And the answer is there are all kinds of state
statutes and things like that that governed state workers as
well based on their capacity. Add another complexity, if those
individuals are being paid with federal funds, there are a
myriad of federal statutes that may overhang that. Which is
(14:49):
why during JRSI, which is your induction, when you mobilize
a bunch of people in uniform, you bring them all
through an intake point, they have to sign off on
lots of forms. A lot of those forms are signing
off your agreement to be bounds to particular laws or
statutes to be paid in that activation or capacity. So
(15:13):
it's one of those of I can't answer in specifics.
The Florida question, because I don't know off the top
of my head which regulations Florida Florida State Guard falls under,
because I haven't read them. But I would tell you
that this is not a group of yahoo's working out
of a room with no windows, with no oversight. They
are technically a state agency. They are funded with taxpayer money,
(15:36):
and therefore, for the same regulations that would require state
police or firefighters, or search and rescue or any of
the Florida agencies, including their emergency response agencies, were uniformed.
That requires them to function under certain regulations. That's probably
what they're functioning under. And then on top of that,
(15:58):
I listened to an interesting podcast with the current executive
director of Florida State Guard recently interviewed, where he was
pointing out that most of the scenarios that Florida State
Guard would be activated under their subordinate to another state
or federal agency. Anyway, Well, that's one hundred percent true.
(16:20):
That is certainly. My experience when I've been deployed is
that I was subordinate to various state and federal agencies,
and as such as leadership, I was given hundreds of
pages of regulations saying as part of this. This is
what you are part of. But this is also your
job in leadership to make sure that when anybody has
(16:42):
any questions you go to these regulations, these are going
to answer them. That's what Florida is dealing with. So
I reject the concept that they are an unlawful hoarde
simply because they're not. They are a legitimate state agency
in a legitimate sovereign state that has and I would
(17:05):
ask you, uh, as a personal request, mister Marciniac, to
reevaluate talk to a few other members now that their
mission they're they're there. These folks now are are are
wearing their covers slanted because they can. As the old
expression for World War Two was where you could if
(17:25):
you if you were a combat that you could wear
your cover in a certain sort of way. Uh. These
folks from the Florida State Guard are coming back now
super experienced. We had three unprecedented hurricanes hit the west
coast of Florida this past year, plus deployments in Texas,
North Carolina. These these are some of the most experienced
(17:48):
State Defense Force people that we as the state Defense
Force community have manufactured that that we've seen in years
and my hat is off to them, and again when
as I take my ye my sagas had off, as
a Florida citizen, I say to all members of the
Florida State Guard, thank you for your service, because I've
(18:09):
seen enough pictures and videos of what you guys and
gals have been doing on the ground, even in our
home state when we have been in need, and I
just I couldn't be not only prouder from the State
Defense fores side, but thankful as a Florida citizen that
you all stood up to serve. You've been doing an
extraordinary job. Please keep up the great work.
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