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October 22, 2024 45 mins
What do you do when you get hit by a car while trying to grab takeout? My partner Olivia joins me this week to share their wild experience after a freak car accident. We also chat about the reality check of adulting as we rethink our plans to move in together and discuss the latest buzz about Chappelle Roan’s canceled concerts. Plus, we ponder the bizarre mystery of what was buried in that woman’s backyard rug. If you’re a twenty-something feeling clueless about life, love, and everything in between, this episode is for you!
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
Welcome back to the Completely Clueless Podcast. My name is
Sarah Alice Liddy, and I am here with my wonderful,
amazing partner Olivia. Hello, Welcome back, baby.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Okay, so truth be told. This is actually the first
time I'm recording in four months. There will be an
episode that comes out before this, but honestly, I was
really really nervous to do this by myself for the
first time. Like I've had a lot of anxiety leading
up to it, and I didn't really expect that because
I've been doing this for like nearly three years with Audrey,

(01:41):
but I've always had somebody else and now this is
officially mine and you're here too to help.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I'm also here, yes, yes it's not mine though it's.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Not yours, but you are here to help. I want
to get into some clueless moments because a lot has
sprung has been sprung on in the last fifteen minutes.
I think I have a uti. I was sitting up
on the toilet burning peat and I was like, oh
my god, of course this would fucking happen right now.
And we also went on a we call it a
Fallow Loujah Follow You vacation, Yes, Fallow Lujah vacation. Olivia

(02:17):
has like a family house that's near Salem, Massachusetts, and
so we've kind of had this tradition where we go
every so often in the fall. We tried at les. Yeah, yeah,
we try to. I think last year we didn't because
I had just been hired full time.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
But we recently got back from our Fallow Louja vacation,
which was absolutely amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like I there was a day I told you this
that we were in Boston and I don't think I've
felt that happy in a really long time. But then
it feels like we came home and crash burned city
happened to reality. Yeah literally, Like I felt super anxious,
like I U t I I threw up the other

(02:57):
day because I definitely food poisoned myself if I drank
expired creamer not cute and you got hit by a car.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I did. But that was on our follow Ya vacation.
But it was on the last night of our follow
Louisa vacation. It's true.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Wait, so I want you to explain the story because
you've never explained the story from start to finish. So
tell the people, how did you get hit by a car? Also,
when Olivia texted me saying like I got hit by
a car, I thought their car got hit by a car,
and a lot of people were under the same impression.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
But you're like, I don't get it. Okay, tell them
the story.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I got hit. You know. I guess if my car
gotten hit, I would have said, like I got into
an accident or somebody hit my car.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, I don't know. I really thought you got you
got No, no, not you, your car car got hit
by the car. So tell everybody what happened.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah. So I ventured off on my own to go
pick up take out yet me from this restaurant in town. Yeah,
I drove there. You know, it's like what ten minutes
away from the house we were at even not even,
And it's at this corner of like a three way intersection, right,
so it's like on the corner of a main road

(04:11):
and then there's like a like a left hand turn off,
you know, so you can going straight down the main road.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
You can turn to the lawn to this right. There's
three different sections, yes.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Exactly, So I crossed. I parked across the street like
where the fourth side of the section intersection would be. Yeah,
that makes sense. So across the street from the turn
off the main road. Yeah, I parked. I I parked,

(04:44):
and I looked at this intersection. It's a very dark intersection.
I know the lights were on, probably after I got hit.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Laterally after you got hit, like when I went she
just finished your story and then I'll get to this.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
So I look, and so there's two crosswalk options. So
on the main road there's only one crosswalk to go
over over to the other side, and then there's the
crosswalk over the like turn off road. Right. So I
made the conscious decision not to jaywalk, and I walked
away from my car down towards the crosswalk that was

(05:16):
like not on the side of the street that I
was on. It was kind of like I walked down
the sidewalk for a bit, walking look both ways. Everybody
on the main road had stopped, and then I was
like okay, walking walking walking. I made it maybe like
half not even halfway across, and I was hit by
a woman that was making a left hand turn from

(05:39):
that side street. Right, So I looked two out of
the three ways, so you didn't look the third way.
I did not look the third way both ways, but
not that other.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Honestly, I feel like it's her job, like her job
to make sure she's not going to hit him prostran
especially one like the main road has stopped fore. Yeah,
and she had.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
She was the only person of the people that stopped
that had a stock The main road doesn't have a
stop sign. She has a stop She had a stop
sign because because you have to make a left or
right hand turn to get onto the main street from
where she was, so she has a stop sign. But
she had turned left onto the main street and hit
me in the crosswalk. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Do you like remember, like, do you remember what it
felt like to get.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, I mean it felt like oh she Yeah, it
kind of felt like like getting tackled, like in football
or something.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I've never been tackled before.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Really, Okay, well yeah, it felt like like a large
person kind of like body checking.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah. Because so to explain that, you like rolled up
onto the car.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, well I didn't think. I don't think I rolled
up I so she hit my left side. I kind
of like slammed my head into the hood of the car. Yeah,
it was like a sedan. It was like a small car,
you know, like a normal.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Which also it was proba good thing.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, totally. I mean if i'd been like a jeeper truck,
like I mean, you know, so I kind of like
hit and then I sort of just like fell on
the ground and what do you remember like what her
reaction was? So it was actually really interesting. So this
guy all of a sudden, I'm like on the ground,

(07:20):
on the ground, like I didn't pass out, but I
was sort of like whoa, what just happened? Yeah, And
this guy comes running over like yelling at the woman
that had hit me, and he was like like we
were just fucking talking about this, like I told you
you needed to watch the street when you're driving. I'm like,
oh gosh, this is the whole other thing that I

(07:43):
am not involved in. Was she a kid, No, she
was like a I don't know, probably late forties, early fifties.
She was like a middle aged woman.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think an investigation needs to happen, like it's her whoever.
This man is like like, is this the first time
like what.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
So he so she comes down, you know, I'm I'm
up by that point, like I stood up and I'm
like I'm okay, Like I'm gonna go sit on the side,
get out of the fucking.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Street, yeah, to help you up.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I would think I got myself up, but before anybody
really like it wasn't like I was lying on the
ground in capacity. I sort of like crouch, Like I
was like crouched almost on my knees. That's why you
got that scrape on your name scrape. And he and
the woman that had hit me, was like, should we
call the police? And this guy is like, yeah, I'm

(08:32):
calling the police.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Okay, did you describe this woman to the police, because
now I'm the police came. So im is like out
in society driving, do we call the police if somebody
you hate somebody?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I mean, I'm sure she was in shock. I mean,
you know, yeah, like I don't hold it again. So
she was very nice. So she like pulled over on
the side of the road. I was sitting on the
you know, on the sidewalk next to my like near
my car. The guy called the cops, and the cops

(09:07):
came very quickly. I mean maybe like a few minutes.
It wasn't very it's a small town. Yeah, So before
I went in the ambulance, it was a very funny
like dynamic of what everything was going on because nobody
could figure out. First of all, nobody knew what gender
I was. Yeah, nobody knew, but I hadn't taken my

(09:32):
license out at that okay, And so so like the
cops are up and they're like, like, who got hit by
a car? And the woman that hit me was like,
he got hit by a car. And then someone else
is like looking around like who and then and then
one of the other cop is like, she got hit
by a car. And then the other cop points to
the woman that hit me and said, oh, she got

(09:53):
hit by a car. And I'm like, I got hit
by a car, Like nobody knew. Everyone was so confused,
and then they were so they were also surprised because
I like said my They were like how old are you?
I'm like twenty seven, yeah, And all the people that
thought I was a boy were like really like whoa,
you look so young. You're like a baby face. Yeah,

(10:15):
And I'm like, well, you know that's what happens. Yeah,
you know. It was so funny.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
The whole experience was so funny. I got to the
hospital and you're like in a stretcher, and I was
just like this was not on my Bengo car for
this evening, like I and we also sort of determined
that I manifested this.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, it is your fault.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's my fault that you got hit for sure, because
my anxiety will do like some weird shit like if
you have anxiety, like you know this or maybe just
like sometimes people have like you know, like irrational thoughts
Like I remember when I was a kid and I'd
be in school and I'd hear an ambulance or a
fire truck. I'd be like, oh my God, like is
that going to my house? Like you're thinking the worst, right,
So sometimes, like you know, because I love you, I'll

(10:58):
think about, like, oh God, like what would happened, like
if Olliviya died or like you know, something gotten car accident,
like you know, people like go through tragedies like you know,
like I'm literally watching Love Is Blind right now and
like this, you know, one guy had.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
All answer got cancer, got cancer.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Like got cancer. Both of my sisters are gone, Like
it's just crazy, like the world is scary, sad, unfortunate
play sometimes so like I'll think about those things. And
I was thinking about it literally the other day, and
then this happens, so like, I need to get myself
out of this. I know you want to show everyone
your booboo.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Oh, well, I put a band aid flash that booboo up,
I'll put I'll put a picture on the screen of
the photos I took of you in the hospital. I
think the scratch on my knees a little worse.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh, I also think you have somebody to think.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Who me and myself and I are being so strong surviving.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yes, yes, you are so strong and surviving, and I'm
very happy you're here. But the brand of sut putt oh,
I think you should give a look at the camera
and give them a shout out.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
So thank you allow Sweatpants for sponsoring this video.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Not actually sponsored. But the story is I get into
the hospital and Olivia is like giving me the rundown
on their booboos as as the nurse called it, because
she has a four year old right now, because literally
you just had scrapes. Like the doctor came over to
look at them and was like, I cannot believe, like
you are okay, Like you didn't break a leg, Like

(12:28):
usually when this happens, people break their leg, like because
how the car sweeps Like He's like literally like what
the fuck? You got hit by a car and you're
like okay. And Olivia looks at me and goes like,
I have this big scratch on my knee, but at
least my allo sweatpants are okay, Like these are my
favorite pair of Vala.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, pretty green ones. Yeah, so and I do I
have like a little scrape on my knee, but the
pants are intact.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Literally, we're totally fine, intact. So thank you out loud.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
So I appreciate that because they are very expensive, so
they're worth every penny.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
They're the best webpans ever. But that was like, honestly
the craziest thing to happen, and just like explaining it
to be what the fuck, Like, oh my god, But
I'm happy you're okay, you're here to tell the tale
and we can laugh about this because I know it's
very serious, but.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Well it could have been.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, that's sort of my takeaway is like you know,
it's we're I'm lucky that it was a funny.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Story, right, Oh yeah, once I got to the hospital
and I saw you were okay and soil the doctors
it had like checked you out, I was like I
can laugh now, because yeah, Like at first I was
like what the fuck, Like I was in the state
of shock, what is happening? Like are you okay? But
then when I got to the hospital and you were
kind of like cracking jokes and you were like look
at my screat I was like, okay, Like this could
have been a lot more serious. We're very lucky the

(13:47):
car wasn't going that fast.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Like yeah, because because luckily she was making a turn,
so she was coming from like a zero was at
a story.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
She wasn't cruising, and people cruise down the main street
pretty back. It's pretty fast.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
So proud of you for surviving, Yes, thank you, Yes,
proud of you. And I got a free cat scan
and I don't have any tumors in my brain.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh it got a free cat scan.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well it wasn't free. I mean, yeah, I probably insurance, insurance,
and then if I have any medical bills, I'm making
that woman pay for I mean, so they took a
catskin in my brain, and they would have said, oh,
you have a tumor in your brain. Oh okay, I
had had like they're not going to ignore or right
if there's another medical problem there. But usually if you

(14:32):
want a cat scan, you got to pay a lot
of money for it non emergency, so as well to
get a free.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
One, there you go. Yeah, And I'm honestly worried that
woman is out living in society, like the fact that
this man had to tell her like what did we know?
And then like she like doesn't know whether to call
the hospital. Like I'm just like a little concerned that
she's out living life.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
So funny.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, But then another cluelest moment that I was thinking
about while I was on the toilet and my pea
was burning, was Okay, this is a TikTok reference. So
if you don't know this, like just look it up
on the internet because I do not have the full
time to tell the tale. But this woman, Katie, found
a rolled up carpet like six feet under the ground

(15:16):
of her house when she was digging to try and
build a fence. It's all over TikTok. I bet you've
heard of it. Everybody is blowing up, and I feel
like the clueless moment for the country right now, like
everybody does not know the answer to this question is
what was in that fucking carpet because they told her

(15:37):
it was nothing. However, that's definitely not the don because
we also saw this TikTok.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, there clearly wasn't like a corpse rolled up full skeleton,
you know, but there was definitely something on it or
they would not have.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Taken it, right because basically we had seen this TikTok
the other night from a daughter whose dad is a detective,
and he told her like, they would have would have
just left the carpet there if there was seriously nothing there.
So he said that to her, was like, we wouldn't
have They wouldn't have taken the carpet if if they
weren't even just like a little bit like suss about it.
And then he also said to his daughter that like

(16:16):
she asked him, like, oh, would you tell the person
living in the house, like, oh, we found something, and
he said, no, we wouldn't tell them, it's not her business.
Well and also like granted, like she was filmed literally
live streaming the entire thing, which I was so shocked about.
Not that like girl, get your bag, like you know,
like I thought she was allowed to right, like allowed

(16:39):
to like you know, film the cadaver dogs and everything,
which was the craziest part of her so cute.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
He was so happy to get his toy.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I know, he was like said, a good job. But yeah,
I think the whole world is suss and clueless about
this right now. So I had to bring it up,
even though this will be like two weeks from now
be posted and it may information there will be I
don't know, I hope so like I was really hoping
that like.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
That there was a body.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, sorry, like you know, I'm not even that religious everybody,
but I just felt like I couldn't say, oh, I
wish there was a body, wish oh my god. But yeah,
I feel like that was another like world clueless moment
that I just like had to bring up. So now
I kind of want to get into the reason I'm
having Olivia come on today at least is because we
have a lot to talk about in terms of like

(17:30):
us moving because when I okay, so I think the
last time, the last episode that we posted where Audrey
had left, and then I'll probably briefly mention it in
episode one in literally I think twenty days. Yep, twenty days,
nineteen days. Actually, I will be moving back home to Westchester,

(17:54):
back with your parents, back with my parents in my
childhood rome, in my childhood home. I'll be moving back,
which I did not expect after like literally moving out.
Like guys, it'll be under a year. I moved to
my apartment last year November six and I'm moving back
home October twenty fifth. The main reason I'm moving back
home is because we want to move out together and

(18:16):
we want to move into our own place. And basically
we started the apartment hunting process in August, which was
super early because my lease ended November sixth. But I
was sort of like wanting to kind of get out
of my current apartment because, like long story short, like
it's just not very functional for my life. Where I live.

(18:38):
It's very far from work, very far from like the
things that I really like. And I've discovered I am
an east Side girly. I am xoxo gossip girl on
the steps. All my friends live on the West Side. However,
like I grew up going to everywhere on the East Side,
Like my pediatrician was there, my gynecologist is there, my

(18:58):
endocrinologists is there. There was this place called Sarahbeths that
still exists, but it doesn't exist at the place that
my family would go to on Ninetieth Street and my
parents would always bring us there for breakfast for like
big events. So like, I just like have this like
like relationship with the east Side.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well, your parents took you home to their east Side apartment.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
They did, they did, and so yeah, I think there's
always been this part of me that's wanted to live
on the Upper east Side and everything, and so luckily
you wanted to live there too, and it was also
like close to where you were.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's works for both of us. I think, yeah, you
know logistically, yeah, yeah, the places we like to go,
places we have to go for work, right, you and
your doctors and things like that.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I guess we didn't really have to compromise on
location then, because I was like going to say, like, oh,
like if somebody were to be with somebody you know,
and they're living on they have you know, like one
person wants to live on the West Side or the
east Side, Like how do you compromise on that? But
I feel like, did you feel like you wanted to
consider anywhere else? I mean you said Greenwich Village, but

(20:02):
that was no.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I never seriously because I think when we were talking,
like you could live anywhere in New York and money
wasn't an issue, then yes, I think Greenwich Village is
obviously the place you want to be. But I never
seriously considered that. I mean, that's not like realistic. Yeah, yeah,
you know I had briefly considered like Astoria or something

(20:24):
like over, but I know that you're not. I didn't. Again,
I didn't take that seriously.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I know, you know. I was talking to my dad
about this last night because one of my mom's coworkers
lives in Astoria. I was telling my parents how a
lot of your dad's like interns live in Astoria, and
my dad's yes, sir, like a story is popping, Like
I don't know what you're thinking, and everything.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
It is popping, or at least there are pockets that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Are popping well with a lot of people our age apparently.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Again because it's affordable, right, you can afford a decent space,
and it's honestly, I mean, I was looking some places
in Astoria would be a shorter commute than the Upper
east Side, and some places we were looking yeah, on
the Upper east Side, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
To me for me at least, yeah, you know, but
probably for you.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
But you know, you wanted to live in Manhattan, so
that's okay.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah. I don't know, like when anybody mentions, like, for example,
like my roommatelets will always say that's about me. Like
when somebody's like, oh, let's go to Brooklyn, I'm like, no,
but Astoria isn't Brooklyn. Sure, No, the story is like
Queen's right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think like
I just had this desire, yeah, to live on the

(21:36):
Upper east Side, and if you were okay with that,
I was going to go with that over Astoria.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
So yeah. But honestly, when we first started apartment hunting,
I feel like we had a little bit of like
an adjustment to make remember when we first started, and
we didn't like have an argument or a disagreement, but
I think like we we.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Weren't on the same page.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, certain things. Yeah, you know, I'm trying to
I wish I would have written this down. Sorry, bad podcaster.
I'm like, what were we disagreeing about? I can't remember
price range? Ye, my ass was sending over these expensive
ass apartments. So how this story ends is we were
looking at this place on the Upper east Side Trent.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
The rent was reasonable, it was in our range.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's in our range. However I would I was still
gonna have to ask my parents for some financial support.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
For everything we were looking at. Was pushing that yeah,
I mean yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Unfortunately I don't make a lot of money. So we
were like ready to kind of go forward with it. Yeah,
because the other we had loved this other unit in
a bill in this building. And Ron, Ron, if you
are hearing this, you are a terrible agent.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Okay. I thought you were gonna say person. I was like,
that's a little harsh.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
He was very nice. Maybe I shouldn't say terrible person
Like he just like a lot.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
He was a lolly gagger.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I just choked our eyes. He was a loggie. He
was a lolli gagger. Like you know, if you've ever
tried two apartment hunt in New York City, it is
like the fucking Hunger Games out there, like you have
to be on it. Everything moves so quickly, like you

(23:26):
need to have your mother fucking ducks in a row.
And I knew that going in this time because of
my last experience, and so like we like I swear
that first apartment in the same building like went up
on the market and like ten minutes later I had
emailed Ron and was like I want to see this
apartment and and it was already and it was gone,

(23:48):
like yeah, and like well or he like oh. So
the next morning he had massive emailed us and said hey,
like at mind you eight fifteen and was like, oh,
I can show you the place at nine today, nine
am today.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
We live in Westchester. We were in Westchester at the time.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
We were in Westchester, so it wouldn't we would have
been late, and so we said no, like oh, we
could be there at ten like whatever. But somebody saw
it at nine and it went and it was gone
by the end of the day, right, because we kept
emailing and being like can we come see it, and
he kept pushing us off, and then a week later
was like, oh yeah, somebody went came and saw it
that day. And I was like, couldn't you have just said.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
That right exactly? Yeah, because we'll look up elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's my problem with the whole real estate in New
York is like it's just so lying and seething and like, oh, like,
I'm just like, can't anybody of loyalty like first come,
first serve, like if I email you first, like we
get to see it first. Like I know, it's not
how it works, but it's just like so annoying.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Wa wah wah.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Technical difficulty just occurred. We were ten minutes into the
second half of this and my camera said there was
an error and it deleted everything. So no, we need
to stir from the beginning. But I just like to
be transparent about that stuff because I do think it's
awkward to like go from a natural conversation and then
like how I have to rehab conversy. He produced that conversation,

(25:11):
so whatever. But basically where we had left off is
that Ron was being a dick and making our lives
very difficult. But he did make our lives a little
bit easier forero point five seconds when he let us
know that there was an apartment in that same building
that hadn't been listed yet, that hadn't been listed yet,
and that we could go see it. And literally the

(25:34):
second he messaged us saying like at six pm today
you can come see it, we were like, cancel everything.
We were going to see this fucking apartment because of
what happened with the last one. We went and saw it.
The kitchen wasn't that great, but it had a lot
of space. And basically like, Olivia has a bunny named
Radish who I will be adopting and I love very much,

(25:55):
but he needs his space.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
He requires square footage as.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Honestly, I feel like that needs to be like crocheted
into a pillow. She literally like, I forget where we at.
We're at dinner, yes, And I was talking about how like,
when I'm looking for an apartment for us, I'm considering yeah,
And your mom was like, oh, Radish needs square footage,
and I was like, yes he does, because Olivia currently

(26:21):
lets Radish free room in their bedroom and I can
get some allergies sometimes and so and he also will
jump up on the bed and like eat things sometimes,
and so I like that was a compromise that we
had to make, and you were very very cool about it,
and we're like, Radish doesn't need to be in our room, like,
we can find another space for him. So something that I,
you know, considered when I was looking, and Olivia did

(26:42):
look too. I was just saying me and like my
perspective when I would look on Zilla or Street Easy, like,
I would try and make sure in the living space
that we can fit a living space a desk because
we both work from home sometimes and Radish had like
a big enough, little, you know, space where he could be.
So that's what we really liked about this place. And
it was in a great location, like a block from

(27:05):
the six train. Oh shit, is that giving away? Oh well,
I said that.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, I already said that we're going We're not living.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
We're not living there. So but basically, you know, we
saw the apartment and literally like twenty minutes after, we
email Ron and we're like, we want we want to
move forward. Yeah, we want to move forward with this apartment.
And that glimmer of hope was quickly crushed, really quickly crushed,
because he sends over this long list of fees and

(27:37):
front fees, front fees that you need to pay in
order to live into this building. And it's like there's
a gym fee, there's an enormously high credit to check.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
The credit report. Yeah yeah, check thing.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
And then also in order for the other people on
the least to get checked, which was me and Olivia's father,
is our guaranteur. We needed to pay like hundreds of
extra dollars for us to get our credit checked.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And then there's the broker's fee, yeah, which was fifteen
percent of the annual rent, which came out to like
eight thousand dollars for.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Literally and I never had to experience that with my
current apartment. There were no broker's fees. And then you
said there was like a new law that has.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Coming in just recently. I guess this was sometime in August.
The real estate laws kind of went under this big
change that was supposed to help like buyers and renters,
but I think it really just screwed the.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Screwed us because now because now the seller can put
the broker's fee on the renter. It used to be
that the seller was pay for that.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
The seller or the rent or the person who owned
the apartment or was selling the apartment, whatever it was,
would cover the what is that called the co like
the the commission, Yeah, yeah, the commission for the real
estate agents for both the you know, the renter or
the buyer and the seller. Yeah, but now they don't

(29:01):
have to. They can choose to, but they're not legally
required to. And so obviously a lot of people were
not and so that then it falls on the the renter,
the renter or the buyer.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, anyways, after we calculate all of these fees, it's
fifteen thousand dollars just to move there, like not even
counting like movers, furniture rent the next month. Like it was,
we were like what the fuck? And I knew, like
my parents were not going to one of them were

(29:38):
not able willing, or they should not have to pay
half of fifteen thousand dollars. And so I ended up
having to sit down with my parents sort of like
spell out the realities that we were running into because
because of my lovely anxiety disorder, we had started our
apartment search at the beginning of August, even though like
my current lease had ended is ending November first, and

(30:01):
because I was kind of hopeful that we could like
move sometime in September or early October. I also wanted
to like make sure that we had a place to live.
And I never looked on the Upper East Side before,
so I was like, all right, like, you know, how
are we going to make this work? And everything. So
I have this conversation with my parents, and my mom

(30:23):
you know, is very gentle and says like, I know
you really want to move in with the Libyan, I
know you want to start this next chapter, and like
nobody can afford it in this situation.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
And it was shaping up that like this wasn't a
rare unusual case. Everywhere we looked required a broker's fee,
and we were looking at the buildings that we were
looking in had a nice yeah, humanities, they were nice buildings.
Oftentimes they had a doorman or a a gym or
like some top you know, like staff in the building

(30:55):
that require to you know, a salary, right basically, and
so yeah, we weren't going to find a place that
didn't require that. We wouldn't basically wipe our entire both
of our entire savings, right, exactly a lot of money
from your parents or my parents, yeah, you or both
of them.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, Because basically, I think like the hardest thing about
this past year for me has been finances. I've been very,
very fortunate and privileged to not have to worry about finances.
My parents you know, helped me growing up and everything,
and so this when I had moved out, that was
my first time becoming financially independent, and I quickly learned

(31:37):
that I had I'm trying to remember the phrase. I'm
never good at phrases, like I want to say sold
myself short, but that's not it, like over extended my budget,
like spread yourself thin. That is it spread myself way
too fucking thin. And especially at the time where I moved,
I had a lot more expenses related to the podcast.

(32:00):
Over the last like the summer, it's been a lot easier.
And also I think at the beginning, my parents like.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
They didn't understand.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
They did not understand. They were like, what are you
talking about, Like just go out less? Yeah, And then
like I had ended up having this breakdown at the
beginning of the summer where I was like, go, look
at my bank statements, like I don't go out. The
only thing I'm spending money on is rent and groceries,
and like the only reason I can go out with
my friends is because Olivia will pay for me to

(32:29):
go out. Like I was really really stressed out. And
again like I am very privileged that Olivia would pay
for things that my parents would come and pay for
groceries sometimes, but I felt very unheard and unseen for
quite a long time, and I think the hardest in
the time where I felt that the most was in
the winter, which was really hard for me because usually

(32:50):
my anxiety and my depression gets a bit worse in
the winter, like most people do. Yeah. So it like
when we were talking about this and trying to make
this work financially, like I pretty quickly was like Olivia,
like like this isn't going to work, and I don't
want and I don't think you wanted it either to
like try and make something work that like.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I just think it wasn't realistic. Wasn't realistic.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, So gratefully and very fortunately, my mom was like,
come live home for like six months. You can save
as much money as you want, Like you won't have
to worry about your expenses and you can, you know,
save as much as you can, which is a very
amazing thing that I get to do. And I'm very
lucky because I like, otherwise, like I don't, like I

(33:35):
would just need to move home full time. And so yeah,
that's sort of like why I'm moving back home and
we've put our apartment search on pause. One thing that
I mentioned in the old recorded episode that never recorded
that I do want to say here because I do
think it's really important when moving to the city. That
I didn't really consider the first time is when Olivia

(33:56):
and I go and look at apartments. Now we are
also looking at the location like a location hunting. We
usually like walk like three blocks each way of the
apartment and look to see if there's like coffee shops
or grocery stores or like restaurants, like what is in
the area pharmacies? Pharmacies? Yeah, because something I did not

(34:17):
consider whatsoever when I moved into my first apartment was
the location, and that has also caused a lot of
hardships over the last year because I think, like the
hardest thing about living in my apartment, like location wise,
to accept was that it was literally the same commute
as living at home. Like that one's stung because I

(34:39):
was like, why the fuck am I moving.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
To the city, Except it was also more stressful because
it was on the subway instead of the Metro North.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
You guys, then if you if you commute on the
Metro North, that shit is so fucking civilized, Like are you, Like?
I like, I look forward to moving home just so
I can go on the Metro North because it's on
the Metro North. You can you know, you'll get a seat,
like ninety eight percent of the time, you'll get a seat,
and you'll be comfortable and you can quiet, yes, like

(35:09):
and you can actually like after the day, like I
feel like when I was living at home prior to
moving out, Like you can decompress, Like you can turn
on a part right because on the subway, God, you guys, like,
oh my god, you have to be so vigilant. You
have to be eyes on everything. Yeah, you don't like
get to decompress until you get to your door in

(35:30):
your home versus the Metro North, Like it's just so
much more civilized. So yes, it was the same commute,
but it wasn't as enjoyable because I was so fucking
alert all the.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Time and you have to make like transfers and yeah,
it's like a whole thing.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
It was. Yeah, it was just like a whole thing.
And then anything that I wanted to do for fun
was very far from the apartment. And look, some people
do not mind commuting. Those like living somewhere where you
can get more space, more bang for your buck and commuting,
you know, some people don't mind it, And like that
is amazing. I think what we were saying before, is

(36:07):
I have an anxiety disorder? Are you yawning? Am I
boring you? They're bored because we're literally happy, we're having
the same conversation right now. I'm sorry, it's okay. Are
you bored?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
No, you're just tired, sleepy.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
It's getting What time is it, It's like four o'clock.
It's like sleepy hour. Olivia goes about so early too. Now,
which is another thing, like something that I've realized. We've
realized is I have an anxiety disorder. And so while like, yeah,
I could probably be saving more money living further uptown,

(36:54):
living farther from like inward in the city, I need
more accessibil things because I will not leave my apartment
if it's not close.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot of time, especially in
the winter, I think, where you just didn't leave at all. Yeah,
because you know where to go, where.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
You wanted to go. Yeah. So this time we've literally
I'm like, is there a coffee shop nearby? Like, I'm like,
is there something that like I because something that I
do here in Westchester is there's a coffee shop that's
like a five minute drive and so like, if I
haven't gotten myself out of the house or I just
need to like rejigger my brain, Like I'll just drive
there and get a coffee, so kind of like the
same thing in the city, Like is there somewhere within

(37:37):
a block or to that I like, yeah, like I
would go to these fucking coffee shops, you guys and
try them like I literally did, like I remember, yeah,
and make sure that I like it, you know, because
I think I just learned a lot this past year,
even though it's been really hard. I think I learned
a lot about living in the city, a lot about
what I need living in the city as a person
with the mental.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Illness living anywhere. Really yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, so your girl's moving back home, which is crazy
because I remember coming on this very podcast and being like,
I'm moving out.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Finally, that's okay. I think it's common for people to
move back home. I moved back home after moving out.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah no, my mom was saying that to me too
to make me feel less bad. But like, also it's true, yeah,
you know is that there was like multiple and I
know multiple people from my town who had gotten a
great COVID deal and then like their land were jack
to the price back up and they had to move home.
And so yeah, that's the deal with that, and I'm

(38:37):
interested to see how it goes, how long I'll actually
be there, if we're end up finding something after saving
some money. So yeah, that's the tea, and I wanted
you to come and talk with you about it, even
though you're bored. I'm now going to call you out.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
You know, I think it's the best decision given the
circumstances and the realities of our you know, visual and
joint financial situations. Yeah, you know, it's just not realistic
for us to blow our entire savings and then be
house poor.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah that was when my dad had brought up the
whole house.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
That's just not smart, you know, because what about how
about the next time we want to move and we
have literally like one hundred dollars in our combine, you know,
combined in our savings, and how are we going to
afford the next fifteen thousand dollars fee?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Do you feel like you learned anything from this process
over the last couple of months, No, you know what
that moment was giving nothing, you know, nothing from dancing
with the stars. What have you learned from being on
Dancing with the Stars. Nothing. I want to close this
episode out, but very quickly, I do want to bring

(39:48):
up everything happening with chapelone. And I bring this up
because I think, moving like forward with this podcast, something
that I really want this podcast to highlight and champion
is like mental health and like approaching mental health with

(40:10):
grace and empathy and kindness, because I think in our
world it isn't and people don't really look at people
that have mental health issues or mental illnesses like as
serious disabilities. And I think I've learned over this last
year that they really are serious disabilities that impact her
everyday life. And you know, mine happens to be anxiety.

(40:33):
And that's why this podcast is called completely clueless, because
I lead a life of troubles with uncertainty. But everything
that's come up with Chapelone and how people are just
absolutely tearing her apart on the internet for needing to
take care of her health and having boundaries around that
has been honestly very triggering to me because I've had

(40:54):
a lot of situations over the summer where people have
judged me for having boundaries when it comes to my
health and for trying to put my health first, and
sort of what we've talked about over the summer and
I've talked about in therapy that's been very hard for
me to accept is that I can place a boundary

(41:15):
and say, like, hey, you know what, I'm not showing
up Tork today. I'm really not doing well, and that
that's going to that other people are going to have
feelings about that, and I'm gonna have to be okay
with people not loving that. And so I think you
said it very well if you want to say it
again about like how the people who bought those tickets.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think people have every right to
be disappointed that she's not performing, and her taking a
step back and respecting her boundaries and her needs is
not lazy or entitled or selfish or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah. I think, like what's been crazy is to see
other people who have platforms, artists that have platforms call
her ungrateful. Yeah, that's telling her to grow up. Like
I get it, Like I understand that there has to
be a balance, and that's something that I'm working on
a lot, is like finding the balance between Okay, I
need to take a step back and prioritize my health

(42:19):
and Sarah, you need to push, you know.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Give yourself sometimes it's it's important to challenge yourself. Yeah,
do things you don't want to do because you know
that they're good for you or you made a commitment
or something like that. But there's also there's a time
and place for that, I think. And there's a time
and place for you know, taking a step back and
doing what you need to do to be okay, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
You know, And she took that step back, and now
she's been continuing her tour and everything, and yeah, I
just think it's so triggering and so disappointing, like watching
so many people just like absolutely annihilate her and beat
her up. And yeah, I think like the main thing
for me was like, how is her prioritizing her health

(43:01):
being ungrateful or is you know not yeah, or yeah,
just not being grateful for what she has. I don't
think that that's true.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, I mean, this is a whole other conversation that
we could have. Yeah, but ultimately, I think people don't
have a lot of empathy because they don't understand. You know,
everybody has anxiety, but not everybody has an anxiety disorder. Yeah,
everybody can feel depressed, but not everybody has depression, right,
you know, and it's hard to understand that if you

(43:36):
don't have the firsthand experience. It's hard to have empathy
for that because it's like, oh, you know, I feel
anxious every day, but I still get up and do
what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, so why can't you?
You know, And it's like not the same thing. Yeah,
And so we don't know what's going on in her life.

(43:57):
We all like to make assumptions and like people to
assume they know what's going on in this like woman's life,
but we don't, you know, we don't know the half
of it.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, I'm very like anti wark grind culture guys, which
we can again like so many things that I'm like, oh,
we could have a whole episode on that, and maybe
we will because we talk about.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
That a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Is just like I'm very anti work grind girl boss,
like I would consider myself a girl boss, Like I
think I'm a girl boss, but like also having boundaries
around being a girl boss. So maybe like soft girl
boss is what I can call it. Like sure, yeah,
like a soft girl era. Anyways, I'm gonna stop rambling
about this, but I did just want to give that

(44:39):
PSA because that's just the kind of space this is.
So I want you guys to feel safe here because
I feel safe here with you. That's so weird. That
was creepy. Anyways, I'm going to sign off now, but
thank you guys so much for listening to the Completely Clueless.
Yes that's an new new title. Took out the curse

(45:02):
word podcast, And Okay, I may screw up the socials
here because I've done a lot of changing and you'll
see over the last over the next like a couple
of months, six months, eight months, I'll be like changing
things as I go and figuring this out by myself.
But I believe now the YouTube, the Instagram, and the
TikTok are all completely clueless pod. So there's only one. Uh,

(45:26):
I was gonna call it a hashtag. There's only one
at that you need to know to follow us please
in this new era. Any sort of support and help
is greatly appreciated because I'm scared as shit for all
of this, and so yeah, leave a nice comment like it,
share it with your friend. I'd absolutely love that. Thanks
for coming on, babe, Thanks for having me. I know

(45:47):
you don't want to plug your socials.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
No, don't don't follow me.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
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