Bonus Episode - Under Siege - 1992

"Jay and DJ Valentine (@TryingToBeDJV) rented a boat and recorded an episode about the 1992 film Under Siege. Directed by Andrew Davis, and starring Steven Seagal, Tommy Lee Jones, Gary Busey and Erika Eleniak, the movie focuses on what happens when a harmonica player battles a chef. In this episode, they discuss knife fights, knife bites, and burnt pies. Enjoy!"

Episode Transcript

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Bunny Down, Bunny Down by theBannberg in a Box. Hello and welcome

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to Connair the Podcast. I amone of your hosts, Jake Lewd and
on the show myself and my cohost Markofmyer. I normally fly away through
the action classic con scene by scene. This is a special rereleased bonus episode
from our other show, Deep Bluesee the podcast as we take a break
between regular Corner episodes. This islooking at a corn Air adjacent film,

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under Siege and Steven Seagal die Hardon a boat film and my guest it's
just me on this episode, andmy guest is DJ Valentine from simplsit Reviews.
I guess we've had on on afilm he doesn't like, but don't
write under Siege, a film helikes. Suddenly he had a great time
talking about the glory that is underSiege. I hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Hello and welcome to Deep Blue Seathe Podcast. I am your host
Jake Lure and on this podcast wewould normally be covering the Deep Blue Sea
trilogy, one DVD chapter at atime. We've done all of that.
That's finished. You can get backand listen to all three of those films
you should. It's great, butmy for now season four, my regular
Courst Mark is taking a brief paternityleave. In the meantime, I am

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looking at deep blue Sea adjacent filmsthat I am less familiar with I've cropped
up during the course of the show, and this week is under Siege.
We're heading out to see for underSiege as the only kind of a adjacency
we need here is hey, ittakes place on the water. That'll do.
And so what is Undersiege? Well? It was released in nineteen ninety

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two. It's directed by the FugitivesAndrew Davis and stars Steven Seagal as Casey
right Back, a former Navy sealturned Navy cook who is aboard the USS
Missouri on her final voyage with nuclearweapons aboarder ought to be removed, but

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as per President George hw Bush's orders, and wouldn't you know it, on
that final voyage, they get hijackedby Tommy Lee Jones as a rock star
Harmonika player, and hilarity is heis only only Casey right Back can say
today, so I need someone whohas I have technically seen under Siege before

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long time ago. I can't rememberthat. At one point Gary Beauty is
in drag. That was my soulmemory of under Siege. So I needed
someone to come back who more forme with the film, wants to talk
about the film, and he's ourfirst repeat guest for this fourth season.
Actually I say that that's not true. Jeff Manzie was our first repeat guest

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because she did Fully Suddenly Just Downand the sequel but record. We recorded
those in the same session, soit doesn't feel like a repeat guest.
This is a guy who was dida show, went away, and then
came back again for another show.From Supissit Reviews, it's d J Allenstein.
Did you hear welcome back to theshow. I had a whole speech
prepared about how odd I am,but now screw it. Apparently I'm not

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even the first fact. I'm justa guy that left it came back.
I'm like, I kid yourself tocollege. This is horrible. Well,
you didn't have to come back,so we appreciate that you did come out.
You were here. No I hadto come back. It's like it's
from college, mom. I needto do my laundry, but you're head.
Last time to talk about Clifanger dieHard on a Mountain, so it
seemed to app to bring you backfor die Hard on a Boat. When

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I was last on with you,we were talking about the I think I'm
doing a separate podcast on your podcast. You're doing Deep Blue Sea Jason,
I'm doing Diehard Jason at the sametime. I don't know if the show
die Hard on a podcast exists.That just looks at all the different well
I'm writing that down trademark all thedifferent like die Hard ripoffs that came out
afterwards. But I feel like ifit doesn't exist, they should do what

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we did say. I think theCliffhanger one day, the Cliffhanger, Speeded
Undersiege are amongst the best of theclones, the die Hard clones. And
when I started watching it, sinceI hadn't seen it in a while as
well, I got a Fugitive feelwhen the tile sequence started, and then
with the musics and credits, andI knew Time and Lee was in it,
but I had forgotten that Andrew Davisdirected this, who directed The Fugitive.

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And then several cast members from TheFugitive started showing up. I'm like,
that's the that's the guy Newman's theMP and that's the cop that arrests
Kimball, and that's the prisoner,and that's trained. I'm like, we
just did this sketch. It's fugitivejust just slowly taking over my bean,
my brain, my mind. Yeah. Usually have me record some audio for

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a sketch as Scrooge playing the what'shis name? That the evil doctor evil
doctor rather Jerrone Crab I think Ithink playing that role. Okay, fine,
And then here you want to talkabout because of the film the guy
made before he directed Tominy Jones toan oscar in The Fugitive. What I'm

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seeing is is this a prequel toThe Fugitive? I know it doesn't make
sense many time only maybe Girard hadlike a twin brother or that's gonna say,
it's not the same character. Eventstranspire that Tomoy Jones's character could not.
You know, you don't know forcertain. Okay, medical miracles happened

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all that. He takes a knifeto the head, it becomes a US
marshal. Look it happened, Okay, get happen. It's raight, It's
right. You know how good caseyour rabbeck is. He can stab you
in the head and miss every vitalorgan. So this is I say,
this is my second time, sayit's only the second Stephen Seagale film I've

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seen. Wow, I've only seenthis and Machette were first off. First
off, Machete is not a StephenSeagal film. Machete is a movie where
Stephen Seagal is in. That's That'swhat I'm deeming a Stephen Seagal film.
But you're correct. I wouldn't say, like, oh, yeah, the
Steven Seal film mat No, Ithink, okay, in which case under
is the only quote unquote Stephen Seagalefilm I've seen. I think what else

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should I be looking at? Well, we did a commentary on one of
the greatest Steven Seagal films of alltimes, though I think this might be
the most well like, not criticallybut like most people, no Undersiege.
But I think his coolest performance,even though this is the most live performance,
is a movie called Hard to Kill, where he says the greatest catch

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phrase tagline of all time, whichis if you will allow me, I'm
gonna take you to the banks underTrent the blood Bank, the greatest cash
phrase action line of any action heroactioning ever. Ever. What does what
does that mean? Look, Iget it, he's gonna make him.

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We didn't decide on what the meaningwas. We just thought it was cool.
I get he's gonna make him bleed, But did you do the blood
bank? The blood bank? Butthat scenario like taking him to the sperm
bank would mean, look, don'tgo don't go that way. We're doing

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the show and me, Matt andJustin on my cohoes on the show,
we were just talking about Steven's golffor some reason, and at since,
like like automatically, we all threeof us said that line and're like,
wait, you remember hard to Kill? You remember Hard to Kill? We're
doing a hard to Kill comment.Let's go now ran we ran down the
pole like like Ghostbusters. And Ithink I think Casey Rabbit. I haven't

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done a lot of research, butI think this is the only movie he's
done that's got a sequel. Icould be wrong. I don't know.
I mean there is a seque again, and scoring down his his Wikipedia page,
I can't see any of the sequelson there, right, but I
imagine some of his films, someof his films might have had like straight

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to DVD. Maybe that's how Iwas working like the sequel Fire down Below
the three or whatever, Man Tooor something still glimmering, glimmering Shiner fired
fire further down below on Deadlier Ground. There's got to be something on there.

(08:50):
It's a three quarters past dead Ithink you need to watch on Deli
Ground. I have to watch itagain. We might do a commentary age,
but you want because you know who'sin on Deadly Ground. You know
who's in any other film anew anew actor on the scene named Michael Kine.
Oh yeah, Jones, C McGinley, Oh yeah, Oh, here's

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the thing about Steven's guard, aswe're gonna notice in this movie. And
I watched the sequel to this moviemaybe fifteen minutes ago. I just finished
it. They have stellar casts forsome reason. I guess to carry him
because if you look at his films, Michael Kaine's the bad guy, uh,
the dude from um in Dark Territory, the dude from Dune and People

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Under Stairs, and Eric, theguy from Secession. I forgot everyt Miguel
No Eric bog Bogging, Eric Everett. Miguel is the guy from People under
the Stats. Yeah, every Miguel'sis one of the bag, there's two,
there's ever him awesome, the dudefrom Breaking Bad is in the cameo
role, the dude from Usual Suspectsin there, Michael Morris, Katherine Heigels's

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niece. Yeah. The cast,yeah, the cast of his movies are
always like really good. Uh firedown yeah, down below. Stephen Graham
is the bad guy. It's justlike, why where does Steven's gonna keep
kidting these people? Why they keepsigning up for these movies and this movie

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especially where you have the two handerof Timmy the Jones one of them with
a spice you got, and thenyou have like the likes of Colmany who
who was an accountant murderer. Ye, you've got like Glenn Moore Shower in
a small row, Bernie Case.Let me ask you a question. Was

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that the youngest you've ever seen?More Shower? That's it's the most ginger
I've ever seen him. Suddenly,because I was like, that's the that's
the Transformers guy. I'm blinded,but there's orange like heads. I'm like,
what it's like looking at the it'sso ginger. I think he's twenty
years old in that movie maybe,but he just disappears He's like, seen

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says he's only here for the week. He's gonna missing. This guy go
through puberty the rum RUPs. Igets the funniest joking he's ever told.
Was there. That's the guy justwent and he just hidden and shame the
thing he couldn't there's no there's nocome back from that. He says puberty
to them, and I'm like,he's like, he looks thirty years older

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than you. What are you talking? What are you talking? Joker makes
no sense? So when was thisfilm? Yeah? He was? He
was thirty in this. Yeah.Yeah, weller, look I wasn't focus
on More Shower. Yeah, thisis the More Shower film under Stige segal

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in. This is forty when uponrelease? Really, oh my god,
yes, you know, I guesshe's aging. Well I don't. You
haven't seen him. He looks goodnessfor a four year old. Yeah,
yeah, is he supposed to becajun? Is? This does that little
bit? I mean? And Outfor Justice another Stevens film you probably need

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to watch. He does an Italianthing and then Mark for Death he does
this kind of Brooklyn thing, sohis accents kind of what's the world I'm
looking for? Trans marker Fry.Maybe it's like guess Cajun because I after
watching Dark Territory, the sequel tothis movie, you find that his brother

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was from Ohio, which means I'mthinking he's from Ohio, which is about
as far from New Orleans as youcan possibly be in America. So I
don't know when when I watched thiswith my wife and she she didn't know
who Steven Seagal was, let aloneseen a film. Gods the same with

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this is this was an experience.I'm sure she has staying a Garb film
before. We just kind of forgottenit. I think she's she's seeing me
a full weapon. But right,right, But so the cover of the
of the DVD is Seagull, halfof his face and shadow of looking at
in his navy whites. Right,and she thought, well, she was
like half an hour to the film. She told him, He's like,

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when's when's Tom Cruise going to showup in this Filmy, god's a better
movie, a better movie Tom Cruiseshows up? Can I see that there
are some similarities dark hair and theresome Yeah, but I just could have
been flying the plane. He couldhave been flying the plane. Remember,
there's a plane in there somewhere.He could have been. He could have
been. Never he's not, buthe could have been. So the thing

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about this movie is I kind oflike navy stuff. I like I saw
das Boot when I was way tooyoung. I like Crimson Tie like three
years ago. Yeah, wow,yeah, I saw. I think I
saw that when I was ten.It's okay. I had HBO so they
used to just leave me in aroom for hours and has watched TV and
that's what came on. Anything havingto do with like on the Red October
Great, even Greyhound the time HankSNICKERSNK movie. I like that camaraderie stuff,

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and I kind of really even thoughhis jokes are bad, his camaraderie
with the crew is like real good. I was like, man, you
could like you could have like expound, like expanded this a little bit more,
where you know, you get tosee why they like him, because
it seems like everybody likes him exceptfor More Shower and Gary Busey and that's
it. Well, you can kindof tell who the bad guys are because
they're the ones that don't like Stevenson. Yeah, if you don't like Casey

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Ryback, you're evil. You're anevil person. I always like watching a
film and working out, at whatpoint is it absolutely Hums and Claire who
the villain is. And it's likeseeing the first thing we see Garb.
You see, he's just he doesn'tlike Casey, right, but that's what
we did. But then from therehe like he spits in the in the
boys. Yeah, he's just ahorrible person around. Yeah, it's not

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pleasant. So okay, so let'slet's run through one of the customers we
haven't mentioned. Troy Evans is aguy who stands out to me because he
played Frank in Her and anytime he'slike one of the receptionists in so anytime
any actor who was in the RA lot appears on screen, my wife
might just ask. Because we watchedall fifteen seasons backers back, I'm with

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your Casey. He's the first guyon board. Yeah, I'm with decades.
We're gonna run the gunfire. I'mwith your Casey. I don't mind
if all I go, let's geteverybody else is like Casey, why don't
we just sit for backup there?Literally, I don't know, We're gonna
go right into gunfact and the waythat my wife describes Steven Seguel in the
film, is that he has anunusually distributed face. That made the greatest

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description. Obviously, what's collar.I didn't know how to respond to that.
I'm to write it down. Whatdo you? What do you even
if you told that to his face? What would or his dispersonate, what
would he say to I guess Ido have this word you. Wow.

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I didn't notice it before. NowI'm looking at myself a kid nazi.
Now, somebody break on my mirrors. I can't look at myself. Potin,
Pootin, come here, look atmy face. Okay, So under
Siege. Let's go through the plotof under Siege. So, as I
said, George hw Bush is announcedthat all nuclear weaponry, et cetera is
going to be decommissioned from from thebattleships and the boats. And so the

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USS me sorry, is arriving,is heading to Pearl Harbor the fiftieth anniversary
of Pearl Harbor h and so onboard we have the captain who is Patrick
O'Neill, likes Casey right back,loves him, loved guy, loves him.
And then his his second in commandis Gary Busey as Commander Krill doesn't

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like kis you right back? Imean with the name like krill yell?
Yeah, So it's the captain's birthdaycoming is it the captain's birthday of the
animal's birthday? I think it's thecaptain's birthday because they didn't want to surprise
him. They want to tell thesurprise away. So it's the captain's birthday.
And Kasey right back is the chief'scook, the petty off the chief
petty officer, and the captain likeshis cooking, so obviously Sigul is going

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to be doing the cooking. He'smaking a beef and lemon rang pie or
whatever which he burns. Never rampiesget burned in this film. They were
in the oven for more than aminute. The first casualty of the movie.
Or a lemon rang pick shouldn't shouldn'tbe in the oven on a high
temper shore for very dom at all. Never pie? You what you want
to do it with a blowtorch?It went best? So what easy?

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Like a crumbrulet? But anyway easyJim Brown, this I think the Running
Man, I'm down. There isno adjacency? Was he with the Running
Man? Otherwise we would be coveringthat every So Gary Busey doesn't want Sig
to cook the dinner he's ordered ina surprise party for the captain. You

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know how the Navy's famous for surpriseparties. Yeah, you know, it's
not like a tightly kept secrets ofall the ship. Everyone would be followed
everywhere to go. You know,it's surprise parties. Oil both. So
they're bringing in a band. Caterer'sJordan Tate, playboy playmate model from Miss
July nine eighty nine played by Ericor Laniac, who, of course was
July eighty nine played by playmates EricLaniac from Baywatch and I first saw her

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in eighty She's the little blonde girlwho no when they're having the mind link
he stands on the back of thekid and the kisses Eric Orleaniak, Now
I feel dirty, yeah er,yes, shit, I mean she is

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stunning in this film, but alsoall of them in this film a picks.
I mean, we just have tohave to establish that that's just not
that this could never ever happen nowever, I mean, given the numerous
actresses who have come out against StevenSeagau and the customs methods that he uses.

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I'd hate to think what Eric ArdanI have to go through to get
this row. Oh kind of I'drather not think about it. I feel
very sorry for it. Well,I won't tell you how the beginning of
Dark Territory starts out. That's alsolike I'm watching it, I'm like,
this could also not happen. Iunderstand under Stage two doesn't take place on
a boat. I think it's ona train. That's the first mistake Warner

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Brothers makes it. You know whatthat Great Boat movie we have what Stevens
let's put about a train rails.Yeah, it's just so they can say
Stephen Seagal is off the rails inunder Siege to the opposite of speed.
Yes, but no, the government, the same government officials you see in
this not the same with some ofthem are in that movie. And they

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use like a spy satellite and theyuse it on a nude beach and like
all of them. You see themlike zooming in on a woman and you're
thinking they're gonna go like, allright, get moved that over there,
and it seems like that's what they'resaying, but they're no, they're like
enhanced zooming farther farther and like wait, like there's like thirty people here and
they're all like staring at it.I camera goingside BII Kurt with Smith is

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there is like, Okay, itworks, that's arm It's what's going on.
So I mean the scene where thecamera just gonna follows Erica or any
x but she's walking down there.Oh yeah, of course, yes,
Michael Biho, Okay, we're notgonna come for the sequel on the show.
It's not Jason. This movie makeor that movie makes this movie look

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like the future completely like the future. Okay, good sir, Yeah,
under under Dog Territory would never beseen. Money that's on the list,
I say so. Gary Buse isarranged for all this surprise party and the
Captain's going to be, you know, becoming gross in a novel, hiding

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away in his room so it canbe a surprise because he kind of guesses
about it. Meanwhile, Casey rightback, all of his kitchen staff,
is it a kitchen on a boat? Is it a mess? What's the
big galley? All of his galleystaff sent off to the party, and
he's like, no, no,no, it's I want to cook for
the So Garybusy comes down, spitsin his in his stew. Very disgusting

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scene. Yes, if I reallyhawks it up as horrible and so case
r back punch it hits him andthen oh, yeah, you struck an
officer. That's not that's not strikingofficer, this is striking. Punge him
in the face enough to make agash down his cheek and that meets so
so galles and handcuffed and thrown intothe meat locker. Yes, because they

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can't put him in the brick becausethey put him in the brig the cab
that will find out. So theyput him in a meat locker, which
I give Garybusy credit. It'd bevery easy for him to be bumbling in
this movie. But this is theonly mistake I think Key makes. He's
very compet He's like overly competent inthis movie from where you typically see the
henchman of the main villain b he'svery like smart, except for this one

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moment where he's like, yeah,put him in the the meat locker.
If you're gonna do what you're gonnado, just just kill him, right,
Well, I mean put him inthe meat isn't that much of a
mistake. It's sending you guys inlater to get him out to kill him.
No, just he's in there.Leave him in there at that point
will be he'll be cold eventually.It's you know, it's a it's a
fridge, right, they's just lefthim in there because they had a bolt

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on the door. Yeah, Andit's well, and I suppose the mistake
would be, don't put your greenestrecruit on the door, right, right,
Let's put someone who is I don'tknow, trustworthy, professional, knows
what, knows what the planet iscalled, but cal meani on the door,
right, somebody, Well, like, they've got dozens of guys.
They've got so many guys, that'sright. So they lock right back up

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in the in the fridge, andand then the Erica Arrainiac arrives with Tomoy
Jones as kind of he manager,it seems also as the lead of this
band. But he's not the lead. He doesn't sing. He plays the
harmonicas he's John Popper basically is Tomausewhen he when they show him, I'm

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like, okay, he must bethe singer. But then they start singing,
but it's not him. It's anotherguy to the right singing Tam Jones
get doing the Bruce Willis mar Harmonicathing. I'm like, oh, you're
not even the lead of this band. Then of this band. How much
fun is Tomody Jones having in thisfilm? Oh, he's great. This
is probably why Andrew Davis was like, you gotta be my Gerardo. You're

(23:48):
too good because this is a zanyaction movie. But there are moments in
this movie where Tommy Lee does likeTommy Lee stuff and you're like, oh,
you're good, You're like too goodfor this. Why are you in
this movie? He absolutely is,But you can also see you can see
the two face in him. Yeah, you don't two face crazily in the

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band scene. Yeah, And thatman Forever has its problems, Tommy Jones
is not one of them, soI will disagree. But okay, I
mean he may not fit the filmor the character, but he's the most
of the most fun thing to watchon that film with the plot or yeah.
Yeah, because there's a lot ofdifferent films in that Forever, I

(24:32):
think you could split carry so,but he's having He's got big sunglasses on,
studded leather jacket, big cross bandana. This is the least to be
sure. Yeah, this is theleast Tommy Jones I've ever seen Tommy Jones.
And it's great because you know,I'm more used to him Agent k

(24:55):
Onwards. Yes, yeah, buthe's gruff and dour and hates everything.
Especially it's like when in The Fugitivewhen he pretends to be like somebody,
like he's undercover, when he's likethe homeless guy. And this is kind
of like seems like a disguise thatGirard would use to get in to arrest,
like a fugitive hippie guy. That'swhat he looks like. I mean,

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yeah, but I feel like he'dbe uncomfortable doing it, Like I
don't want to be this, thiskind of showy, this big, but
this isn't This isn't me. Buthe's this is this. I mean,
he's a great actor. It's he'she's having so much fun and it's commonly
having fun. When's the last timeTommy Lee had fun? In black?

(25:36):
It might be made in Black,like not even like the sequels, No,
like the First Men in Black goingthrough I mean that Lincoln, what's
he doing in Mechanic Resurrection? MechanicResurrection? Actually, it might be Lincoln.
He is having fun in Lincoln.That's that's Studdy Stevens. He's like
insulting people's he's an irascible grounds definitely, but he's he's got a good stripton

(25:59):
that. He's spitting some insults ofvarious people I know, But he's not
having fun fun like Tommy This.This is Tommy Lee just hanging on to
a microphone, swinging on people's shoulders. So, I mean, you could
argue Counts in America is having Americais having that fun, but not this
much. This is this is definitelythe most funny done a long time.

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I'm not kissing you that. Ithink I was the last time he had
a little bit of a wink anda smile kind of thing. He doesn't
want to. I'm gonna go SpaceCowboys. He's he's like the rogue element
in Space Cowboys. He's like yearsand smooth soldiers having so much fun voicing
Chip Houzard. Well, he wasprobably doing that from his bedroom, so
I can't say he was having fun. This is not a phenomenal career.

(26:45):
Great, he's great actor day.May he keep working for a Yeah,
I think at astrois for Money's favoriteof his films at ash Let me tell
you what he wasn't doing that moviefun No no one was no, no
one had fun. I think themovie at the whole point is don't have
fun. Just just sit here andlook at each other. Is there deeply

(27:06):
into each other? Side's not havefun? That's that's that. So like
a different director walked onto the setlike okay today the boon attack and then
after that it was just like dowdour dour more, dour more more no
more, baboon attacks some one bitin the film It's any fun anyway.

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The point of this is that TommyLee is kind of the Hans grouper of
this. But if Hans was puttingon a show. Wait, Hans is
kind of putting on a show.But he's putting on a show of like
the classy American yuppy Williams is puttingon a low budget popcorn popcorn and the
same as show. It's for theit's for the cheap seats. It's cheap,

(27:52):
yeah, exact, and so yeah, he's joined by Erica or any
Actually, she's not feeling too well, so Beauty gives her some some sickness
pills. She takes a fistful ofthem and pastures very bad, like why
would that be your thought? Likeyou I should take seven of piece.
But then off screen she then getsinto a big cake and then passes out,

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and then we don't see her forI think half an hour that might
have been. She can't act.What do you want me to do with
her? You know what I got? I want to put on a cake.
Thirty minutes of the movie, we'llforget all about her. Nobody won't
say any lines, so we wereback burner argon and the big party happens.
Everyone's going on. There's waiters goingaround the ship to all the people

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who are still having to work dishingout orders. There's the band playing Gary
Beauty. In the least necessary turnanything has ever required any plot puts drag
on, gets dressed up as alady, and where was it? I
guess where is the purpose of thisthere? It's a very good question.
He's a very good question because I'mlike, because he's gonna go see the

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captain anyway? Did he have todo like? It wasn't like him and
drag distracted them from doing anything theythey were gonna do it anyway. I
didn't understand that there is no point. It is completely out of character because
everyone is like nudging each other krill. Maybe he's not such a hard ass
after Yeah. The only thing Ican think is it it was like the

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writer or director saying, yeah,we'll give you one last thinking of that
he's not a bad guy. Sowhen he's a bad I say, oh,
he is a bag though, butfor the purposes of their plan,
it makes no sense whatsoever. Sohe's walking around with his he's got dressed
one, he's got these giant fakebrass, got a wig on. He
pretends that Colemany is like in budginghim for a private dance somewhere. So

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they lead upstairs to go and seethe Captain and I. Meanwhile, Tommy
Jones was on stage and he's like, here's a commanding officer in this room.
I can't do. Go Tommy Jonestry and the guy I'd like,
a real, no nonsense serious guystands up. Good that me Hello,
Tony Jones shot one shot straight inthe brain Dead Gone and Rocker since us.

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All the weight staff turned out tobe bad draw guns and all of
the crew. Meanwhile, in theCaptain's office, scary beauty shoots the captain
Coleman, he takes out his hisguard. Basically, the whole crew is
captured and most of them are putin. Why body was called the forecastle?
But if you ask any dings filmsurly the forecastle and why why they

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keep calling it that it's on theboard and keep on showing us how it
spelled, and they keep saying itdifferently, keep saying it a completed But
fine, that's all right. Maybemaybe there's some kind of agreement they had
together. We're not gonna call itwhat it said. So all of the
crew gets welded into the forecastle,which is like, if you're wondering,

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good at the Wikipedia page for theForecastle, which actually on the page it
says pronounced felcastle. So why again, whatever, I'm guessing the English probably
named this because we do strange thingswith how are you pronouncing? Is this
like left tenant? Is that what'sgoing on here? I guess yeah.
Is the upper deck of a sailingship forward of the foremast, or historically

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the forward partnership with the sailor's livingquarters the big rocke mast instead of foremast,
isn't it? Folks? Masts?If it's for folcsall you think it
should be for mast it's forecast anyway. I don't whatever, man whatever,
maybe whatever you say. But it'sjust a big empty room towards the front

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of the ship and they weld themall in there, and that's where the
entire crew is, apart from sixguys, most of whom we've seen speak
before now, who are secluded inanother welded room somewhere else. And of
course case you're right back still inthe meat locker. So he hears the
shooting and he tries to get theguy on the guard outside, like this
is some shooting, go and seewhat that is. And they guys like,

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nah, I'm gonna eat this hunkof bread. I'm gonna check on
the burning lemon rine parties getting out. I do like that. I do
like the timing of that line wherehe goes go check out the fireworks and
there's like death sides. He goes, get my pies out of the open.
I didn't like that. I wasmeeting time. So the chip has

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been taken over like twenty minutes intothe film, and it's already it's already
happened, which you know, itwas pretty pretty quick. I was surprised
by how quickly went into the block. Yeah, I'm saying they could.
They could have again, they wouldnever do this now, but this movie
could have been more fleshed out,like we could have seen because we get
to learn about his past and thatthe captain doesn't like him because of his

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cooking. It's because of his past. You could have fleshed this little thing
out a little bit more. Howmaybe the siege happened in the middle of
the movie something the middle of themovie. Yeah, I don't mind.
I mean regular her host Mark watchedthis film recently and wanted to work out
for how much of the film isthe ship under siege the kind of thing

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he does, And I'm just yes, I think I saw this, but
I didn't see the timing. Ithink it was like, I'm not going
to guess the number. But Idid see this on Twitter. I was
like, God, damn it.He he has this to a science.
So under siege is so? TheUSS Missury is under siege for seventy nine
point five percent of the film's runningtime, which is truth. On advertising,

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they've seen that they're suing the makersof Yesterday because and the Armisi isn't
in the because but she's in acommercial. At least, you know,
they don't lie about under siege themovie. The boat is under siege.
There's no lies going on here.So there you go. And he's decided
that for a film to have siegein the title at least to have a
minimum of fifty seven point three percentsiege. Where did he get that number?

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Where did he get that? He'sdone in the mass. I haven't
seen the Welkins out, but he'sdone. We have to we have to
just trust his expertise in this matter. Seven point three? What if it
is fifty seven point two? Everyliken this movie is fas can't have siege
in the title, And it's justlike barely under siege. They just call

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it right back. That's right back, Um, let's go die hord on
a bite at that point, itis, that's what it is. Die
Wetter went hard. No, that'sdefinitely sexual. We can do that one.
That sounds too much like a terribleKevin out. So so the ship

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has been taken over. They Ienjoyed the cool that Tommy Jones makes to
the higher ups. The I callit the Red Asian Dawn scene. Where
he's doing the fake Hans Grouper intentionswhen it really has other intentions. Because
that's when the Tommy Lee Jones comesout, where he's doing frantic Tommy Lee.

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And then there's a moment where he'slike no, no, no,
no, this is serious Timily atthe very end. And as I'm listening
to him talking, I'm like,I kind of I'm kind of on his
side here. They sent men tokill him because they closed down an operation
he was a part of that.He did that they sanctioned. So why

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do you do you think he wasn'tgonna be He goes, you tried to
kill me, you son of abitch, And I was like that was
that was good Tommy Lee, LikeI was with him. Yeah, it's
kind of like Ed Harrison the Rocks. That's a thousand percent correct, That's
exactly what happened. When you're like, you know, when that Harris,
you got a point here, yougotta kind of get it. But when

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in the Rock and Harris's character islike, oh there's kids in here,
I'm gonna get rid of the kids. So that it's like some positive elements
to it, right, you Youhe's not a monster he even in Ed
Harris is a spoiler for the Rockor whatever his end, you can tell
he he wasn't a monster. Hedidn't want to I mean his mem betraying
because he wasn't willing to go thatextra stuff. Tomily Jones definitely is.

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But this, you know, theyboth come from. They're not doing they're
doing this for money, I guess, or he's doing it for money,
but it was precipitated by the ciageright to assassinate him for doing his job.
Essentially, unless I'm missing a linethat I think that's right. But
one of the guys that they're talkingto the higher ups, he believes Tommy

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Jones to be insane, right becauseof action, and that apparently has been
a ruse by Tommy Jones, sothat this would all happen, this would
make sense. But then by endthe film it turns out, oh no,
he is actually insane. So hewasn't he Was he insane or was
he the shell shocked because a freakinga cannon went off? Next? Was?
I mean, well maybe yeah,but by the end of the film

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he has become insane. Should say, yes, he is a self putting
prophecy. So yeah, So TommyJones and Gary Musey go up to the
Captain scuorters to get this the disclaunch cards. Buc is still in drag,
but without the wake on reading.I wish you would have stay.
I wish you would have stayed inthe entire movie like that. I mean,
I'm glad he didn't. But sohe's sat there reading this thing that

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suggests he should have a psych evaluation. Don't you think I'm crazy? I'm
not crazy. He just dressed.Does it look like I need a psych
evaluation? It's sitting back there,not at all. And yeah, they
have a good chemistry. They couldthey should have had. I mean,
I think, well, don't don'ttry to go. Oh man, I'm

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writing this down. But no,I can tell because sal Is, let's
just say, is kindly limited asan actor. They focused a lot on
Timmy Lee and Gary Busey, andit wasn't even enough for me because they
they meshed together. Well, it'sthe Carl Hans relationship. But if Carl

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had just as much charisma as Hans, because Gary Bucy is you know,
you know, you know what hedoes. He does choose scenery, but
he choose scenery in a different waythan time he leaves. So they kind
of fit together. Yeah yeah,and it works very well. Yeah.
So if they are, they're boththey're different kinds of crazy shows. Yes,
I mean, especially in real life. Tommy John seems like a noble

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guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do. They do the same
coin perspect of them. It's himwho's you know, Tommy Ly who's kind
of like, you know, theatricalcrazy, Gary bo Bus, who's really
crazy. He got calm meany He'skind of like the guy who says the

(38:44):
funny line, who's not on cameraall the time. He keeps saying I
think he says, like, theynever like me anyway. I bet you
loved them. I bet you theylove the how or whatever? I do
enjoy it, how how much?Gary Bucy just hates everyone, the whole
crew. He hates them all hehas. The point is it, they
hated me, so screw them.At least he do's a backstep. He's

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like, look, they screw thoseguys. I don't care what happens.
And and part of Tommy Jones convincingthe higher ups that he is crazy involved
the people that they sent to killhim. He sent their fingers back to
the higher ups. You don't know. It was the trigger trigger thing that
trigger figures back. And that's prettyso. So the crew are still in

(39:28):
the folks or they're they're banging onthe whole sos just in case you got
to do something in the cold.Be a shark listening Anthing's a shark at
the window. Don't back that.I can hear you, hear what you're
saying about. And so and andthey send a couple of guys to to

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deal with Casey right back. Theykill the guard, just didn't even check
see if he was on side.The kill him and then they opened the
door the meat locca and just openfire. But he's not in there.
They go in and he's in theceiling. Drops drops down a ceiling great
knocks one guy out pretty much,and he just takes out, takes them

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both out. Because it's Steven Sigel, he can take out anyone. And
then he locks them back in themeatlocker. But it's pretty quick for them
to shoot themselves out there, buthe deals with them pretty quickly. It's
you know, it's the Steven Siegefilm. I get the feeling that happens
in all of them way. He'sjust kind of unstoppable, and then there's
a smoking gun payoff, which Ialmost forgot about, where after he dispatches

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the guys, he kind of likestarts putting some stuff together and he puts
it in a microwave, and heis You almost forget. It's like twenty
minutes later, or maybe it's lessthan that, but it just seems like
a long time passes. You forgetall about the thing that he put in
the microwave. As a similar thinghappens in a film talk about recently with
your your Colleague with Master in theevents of the Fourth Felling as an exploding

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microwave on that Is this the same? Writer? Is this the same?
Is the Andrew dice Clay in thismovie? But I've seen more Andrew dice
Clay films than I have students age. That's not a bad thing. That's
not a bat I think it's unusual. So I say, yeah, go
out. He's now. He's nowout. He's scolding on the ship.

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He's he finds the dead captain andhe goes into the party room. It's
deserted. He's kind of piecing togetherwhat's happened, and he just pushes the
cake out of the way, whichwakes up Jordan's tate inside. Then she
bursts out dancing. She's just wearinga thong and an open jacket and nothing
else. Again, could never dothis today. My worst comment was those

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aren't real. He thinks she mightbe onto something, and so then Casey
is now stuck with Jordan date,which he doesn't seem all that pleased with
initially because she doesn't want to bealone when he but he just shoves her
into a locker and walks away.She starts making a bit of a rucus.

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Understandably, she's terrified would be too, so he ends up having to
recruit her own board. I didn'tI didn't like the scene. I did
love the scene with him and thecaptain. Again, if they would have
flushed it out more that they wouldhave probably hit harder where he kind of
covers him up with it. Itwas kind of like a little mini funeral
he has for him. And thenhe tells her this is the safest place

(42:29):
for you to be. She startsbanging on the door and he says,
if you keep banging it, we'regonna come and kill you. So if
I'm her at the situation, I'mlike, okay, but she immediately starts
banking noise. I'm like, whatwhat, what do you want? I
don't want to be alone. You'regonna die. Do you understand what happened?
He literally says, do you understandwhat's gonna happen? If they hear

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you, they're going to kill you. But I don't want to be alone.
You're going to die. Your alternativeis death. I don't understand that.
Yeah, I mean, she's notequipped for this situation. She's not
you know, I get where she'sgoing fro him. She's terrified. She
doesn't want to be there, butshe might see this guy as as safety.
He's rescued her at this point essentially, so she wants to stay with

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him because it's, as he sayslater in the film, the safest place
in the ship is right behind him. So I don't know, they need
plot contrivance has to have these twotogether, okay, and so it does.
She's I mean, we have maybethe two weakest actors in the film
are our two leads, essentially,and this is where die Hard and undersiege
part way. Instead of Reginald Bell, Jazzon and Bruce Willis, you now

(43:39):
have Stephen Seagal in a plane roaminga boot Yeah, well, I mean
I would say they're not terrible.Segel has has a presence to him.
There's a reason why he's made somany films and he has a fan base,
and he sells real tough guy likeif something at least at the time

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when when people when you say,oh, it's guys a navy seal,
you're like, yeah, i'd buythat. I buy it like I can.
He has physicality to it, right, And what is the martial art
that he does? Is it crowdmacaor judo or talk window a keto?
I think it's a keto. Okay, wait, yeah, whatever it is,
it involves a lot of waving yourhands around as a kind of distraction

(44:23):
as as which is a a validmethod of distraction. But last week we
talked about Ravenous on the show andRobert Carlisle does something quite similar where when
he just before he kind of turnsand goes a little bit crazy, he's
just like waving his hands around inthis similar way that that Sigale doesn't hear.

(44:45):
Just you know, I watched themboth in the same day. He's
a seventh degree black belt in aketo, karate judo, Brazilian jiu jitsu
kendo. In a word, I'mnot going to pronounce because I don't want
to get canceled fair enough, butno, it's it's the waving of the

(45:07):
hands. Thing always makes me lad, the only thing funnier to me.
And I we brought this up onmany, many of us, We've done
many of Seagal commentary. Is notjust the waving of the hands. We're
gonna get to a scene it mighthave already happened. Seagals run is one
of the things. There's there's there'scertain cinematic runs in history. Tom Cruise
probably has the greatest run in movies. Seagals run up put it run up

(45:29):
there because it's it's like a duck. It's like a weird duck run.
A duck run Like if a duckhad the capabilities to move as fast as
a human, it would look likeSteven Seagal running down the street. It
looks horrific image the duck running.I mean, the see of a human.

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Oh my god. I can't sayI picked up on the running,
but I will. I will lookout for in future films. It was
it was one in this one shothere where he's running on the surface of
the boat like he's running for cover, and it seems like he's running weird
because he's like, you know,trying to be quiet or something, but
no, he runs like that.There's a scene and Hard to Kill where
he's running down the alley the exactsame way for a longer period of time,

(46:15):
like why are you running like that? Why it's like his legs are
they flip out to the left andright as he's lands. It's weird.
When you see it, you'll know, Okay, you know, I don't
for what. So with the sceneof Seagal and you have to when she
finds out he's just a cook,just a lowly, lowly cook, and

(46:36):
she seems like we're all going todie. It's a response to that.
But he's not just a cook.He's a seal. Because this is a
great thing on the ship. Thecrew all of him, the higher ups
they kind of accept him what heis. But the higher higher ups,
these guys all a dor Seagal.They know how they like he's Jesus,

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Like it's like he's the greatest manof all time. I Mean, the
captain even says like if I hadyour ribbons, I'd wear him to bed.
As I say, there's a moviehere with the higher ups like knowing
about segall like they'll die. Whodoes show up in this one and the
next one? Like uh he saysa line it's so like real because they'll

(47:21):
die as a real dude. He'sbeen through some stuff. He chains all
these people for all this stuff.But he goes, uh, Casey right
back. Oh yeah, wish youhad him on this job. Yeah,
and what do you know? Hedoes? And in in in dark territory
when they fight, there's always thereveals. The second movie is essentially the
first movie, but on the train, so the same thing kind of happens

(47:43):
where they're like who's on the train, something about right back, and then
you have the bad guys realizing whoit is scene where it's like, oh
no, Casey freaking right back.He's the best. I thought you were
the best. He trained me atFort Bragg's like they're all they're all Genda

(48:05):
flecting to the the mirror name.It's it's crazy excellent. So so it
turns out that whilst Tony Dwnes hastold you higher ups a different story,
he's actually just trying to steal thenukes, and he has a submarine.
He has a stolen North Korean submarinethat they took a while back that's coming
up to meet them. Meanwhile,they're disassembling parts of the ship and remaking

(48:30):
them into a crane. I think. I think they're making a railing system
so they can slide the torpedoes offor the missiles off the boat into the
sub or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, but so so there's lots of scenes
of these many, many men theybore with them, cutting up girdas and
welding them together and doing whatever.There's lots of corridors they walk past while

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they're doing that. They keep sayingthe same line over and over again.
Time is money on his job.They feel like six times. It's a
strict schedule to keep two which Iwas frustrated by the schedule because Tommy Jones
shoots the main guy during the partyscenes four minutes ahead of schedule, when
there are other people aboard the shipdoing similar things. He's probably keeping to

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their schedule, so that could haveruined the whole thing. Where he shot
that guy four minutes before. Beauty'sup there with the captain. So we
could you mess up our schedule fromfour minutes ahead, we're four minutes behind?
What are we? We're the regular? What are we? I don't
know? So busy Tommy Jones.They then go to find Casey right back,
and they think he's still in themeat locker. They get down there

(49:34):
and they find their guys dead.He doesn't know, and he right back
timed to the microwave explosions so wellthat he knew exactly when they get down.
Jake, I don't want to putthis is what this is why rabbis
so good. He's so good.Casey. What he did is that he
cut the power to the galley,so when they turned the power on,

(49:54):
sacrowave would turn on. That's whatit's the I take it all back.
It's a perfect phone. I thoughtthe same thing too, and then I
was like, oh wait, becauseI was like, wow, the frick
did you know they were gonna go? And I realized that you can see
one of them flip the breakers orsomething on the corner, and that was

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what turned on, which is weirdbecause did you turn on the power?
I gotta watch the scene again inthe beginning, did you turn on the
power? Set the microwave and turnoff the power because if that's the case,
the mic wave wouldn't turn whatever.It's back to me in the back
phone. Okay, I take itback. Perfect scene. I like that
at least one guy is killed byan exploding microwave, not from the explosion,

(50:35):
but just from microwave shods in hisface. It's a good kill.
Yeah, it's not my favorite kill, but it's a good kill. Oh
yeah, that's I'll be late.There's a couple of good ones coming up.
So yeah, so that all that. He didn't get a good scene
with Gary Busey and Colemany calling eachother an idiot for a while. You're
an idiot, you're an idiot.You're just back in forth creature, an
idiot. They're just kids, theseguys just man, they're together. They're

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great together. And yeah, Ido like the bad guys tend to stay
together for a while. It's notlike one guy goes this way, when
got that way. No, we'reall gonna go down there and try and
find this guy together, right,And I like how Tom and Lee kieps
telling them don't chase that many.Usually the guys are like, go get
them, nah, because that's agood Hans, because Hans said the same

(51:21):
thing that Carl, don't go aftermcclint, to stay here or bottle them
in. But Tominy Johnes kept tellingthem, hey, stop chasing them along,
stop it as and looking through thepersonal phil as they find out the
cook is a seal, a realseal. No, no, no,
idiot, he's a novel. Howwas that possible? Maybe would never put

(51:44):
an animal on board. No,listen to me, that not a seal,
a seal. That's what I said, be your risk, the care
the seals on first. So yeah, so they're gonna to sell the took
the nuclear Tomoks and Buc's plan isto buy the presidency, which makes well,

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you know what's funny. I'm gonnasay that makes no sense. But
yeah, in twenty twenty two,we've seen worst. We've seen way worse.
Wait, wait, waoth countries.I do like to see where Timmilly
Jones is on the phone. Thisis why I realized the colmenias. His
accountant, he calls him, Hegoes, he's gonna talk to my accountant.
He gives them the phone. He'shaving like a he's like bargaining with

(52:28):
I guess they're Russians. I couldn'tremember who he's talking to the Italians.
I can't remember. I don't know. He says something and he goes,
U, I'll let you speak tomy accountant. He because it's called media.
I'm like, call means your accountI thought he was a murderer like
assassin. So they were as acase. He's gone away and Gary Buse's
plan twhich Tony Jones says, there'slogic insanity. Is all the guys setting

(52:51):
still trapped in the folcastle. They'regonna set off the sprinklers and eventually drown
them. I don't know how it'sgonna take for sprinklers to drown a lot
of guys, but that's the black. This is when, like I said,
this was the first time my wifehad seen Gray busy. She asked
if they were his real teeth.I don't know. There's there's some animals

(53:14):
real teeth. Certainly they're real.I don't know if there is. And
then Casey and Jordan find the sixguys in in the in the room,
so they find yes, yeah,the ones who had speaking ross. There's
one of Casey's like second in commandsin the galleys in there there's a guy

(53:37):
who just does laundry, who isnot happy to be doing anything. He
just wants to hide and survive.Smart guy. Yeah, but one of
the guys is a gunner's mate whoturns out to be useful later on.
Is the one guy that Casey doesn'tknow, just some old guy on the
boat and the guy who just laundry. I don't want to do anything.

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And he's told, you're in theNavy. It's not a it's an adventure,
am I response to that would havebeen like, what what are you
talking about. This isn't top gun. I'm trying to get people to join
the Navy by under siege AEI,that's that's the wrong tone of this film.
I would have been like, Casey, I said something, and then
you said something. But the somethings that we said don't correspond. But

(54:20):
I said, I'm in the laundry. You said something about the Navy being
an adventure. Again, doesn't changethe fact that I am in the launderie.
I don't kill people. He's probablydone basic training. But so then
he Casey has a team and they'renow we're gonna try and take over.

(54:45):
So there's a few scenes of themlike going out out on deck trying to
take over. It's nothing overly standout here. They up a helicopter that
sat on the on the dock,on the on the dock, on the
on the deck with a kind ofpaint thinner as you do. And Joona

(55:06):
gets taken, but the girl getsit back again and he rigs up a
door for it to explode when it'sopened. It's it's good stuff, but
it's not like, oh well,as you see a bit of Heart's phenomenal.
It's just you know, it's it'sfine, it's this is it.
This isn't die Hard, It's it'sit's one of the better die as you

(55:27):
said, one of the better Diehardimitators. You've got to call them clones.
The clones a die real bed butlike the multiplicity clone of the clone
kind of things where they start toget a lot of worse. H Yeah,
if Diehard is Michael Keaton, thenthis is the second guy. But
still I like this a lot.I enjoyed this a great deal. I
think guy I put this, Ithink I like to Cliffhanger slightly more,

(55:52):
but I still enjoyed this. Ithink I like I think the fact that
you have more of a cast makesme like this a little bit more to
Cliffic that's a smidgeon Speed I thinkis the best of the three upper echelance
die Hard clones, but they're they'repretty close. Speed is like the high
number one and then understieging Cliffhanger kindof fight. From My problem with Speed

(56:14):
is I've seen it too many timesat this point. So good, it
is good, but it's just Ithink I'm kind of tired of it.
It has It's been a while sinceI've seen it. When I watched when
We Cover Twelve Rounds a few monthsago, there's that's basically Diehood with a
vengeance with the entirety of Speed thrownin for one scene in the middle.

(56:36):
I was like, oh yeah,this is a little like Speed. I
do want to watch Speed, Somaybe maybe it's time. Maybe I need
to get some more Alan Rock inmy life. I guess I get it's
more Joe Morton in my life.He's he just everything he says is great.
There's a gap in a rode upahead. I love it so much.

(56:59):
Has to fly? So have youpassed? Have we passed? The
cigal kills? People? With thathas my favorite killing. They're the the
uh, the railing kill. Idon't think we have that. We can
we can talk about it now.So yeah, for it was what happens
he I think they're just trying tomake their way up to the top and
he just systematically starts taking out guardhe's making. I think he makes the

(57:22):
phone call to the government first duringthe firefight and they or they call him
back or something like back. Jodannouncesthat and she like puts him on home
with I thought that was kind ofcharming, where he's like, you know,
case, he's kind of in themiddle of a firefight right now.
I mean he's talking and then sheeventually she gives a headset to Sego and
he's talking to them whilst firing asubmachine gun. I'm like, there is

(57:44):
no way he can hear that.Nold all be deaf by the way.
I mean, I fired a gunbefore, and I had ear muffs or
you know, the ear protection on. They're in a really small air hallway
of metal. It's it's gonna beechoing over the place. They should all
be deaf, not only from theguns firing, but the bullets hitting and

(58:09):
it's just grenades you somewhere, andthat's scene if something explodes somewhere, puts
the grenade on the duel so explodeson. Yeah. So it's just after
that phone call that they have theBeam death. So do you want to
talk about the beam death? Oh? Man, Okay. There's two things
that I love about the beam There'stwo parts of the beam dethella. The
one that the guy he walks andhe doesn't see the beam. And there's
like the railing system. One ofthe beams are hanging from a rope for

(58:30):
some reason and he pulls it andit pales the guy, which is it's
maybe the group most grewsome thing inthe movie. And then he hits a
guy. This is kind of likethe Diehards. And he punches a guy
who gets caught up in the ropesand that kills him. I don't when
I say caught up in the ropes, his ankle will get cause gets caught
up in the ropes and he's hangingup by his foot. But I'm like,
how are you dead? Because laterthey come back and he's still hanging

(58:52):
there. I guess he died frombeing upside down because the die hard John
McClean leaves one terrorist alive. Hehits him in the side of the head
with a gun and you never seethe terrorists again. Right before he tries
to save his wife, he punchesa guy who with the side of his
gun and he comes up into thetwo last terrorists and you never see that

(59:14):
terrorist again. It's like, well, John McLean left one terrorist alive,
you never see him again, buthe's one is alive. So this is
kind of like the same thing whereCasey leaves one guy a lot if he
punches him, he hangs from arope. He just hangs there, and
then twenty minutes later come back,he's still hanging there, not a not
awake. Well maybe that guy's realizedI can't this guy. We probably can't
do this. I'm just gonna literallyhang out here and pretend to be dead

(59:37):
and then all blows over. He'splaying POSSI. He's just gonna hang out
and fine. He knows what's up. He's up upside that. So I
think it's during this that Tommy Jonesis asking Comy, You're like, what
what did we hire this guy?Stevens would have been worth it? Yeah,

(59:59):
Like, yeah, you're right,you should have tried. I mean,
I feel like he wouldn't have comeon board. He's the hero,
He's a hero, and Bucy isgetting annoyed with that. The submarines come
up and there's some kind of issueconnecting the submarine to the boat in some
way, and as it is Italians, it's an Italian guy who he's trying

(01:00:20):
to have a combination with, buthe doesn't speak Italian. The Twigs speaking
English, and the Italian guy sayssomething something impossiblay, and Bucy is like,
I don't understand what you're saying.It's not buy It's not a difficult
word. Impossiblay can be very amusing. Speak English man. He says,
why can't you speak English? Andthat guy is called Luigi by the way,

(01:00:44):
because later in the film his nameis Mario but whatever played played by
andrews Clay. Of course, againwe were connecting the fourth Fairlyn once again,
so that there's a delightful nineties rockmusic gearing at Montage as they disassemble
the missiles and do it. Ifollowed not a bit of what was happening.

(01:01:06):
Yeah, it's it's literally about aminute of him taking off the I
think he's taking the warhead off themissile, but he's using the gunpowder that
would set off the warhead to makea bomb to blow up. But again
he doesn't explain anything. He justdoes it. And it's probably pretty accurate
because I don't know why they wouldspend so much time on that shot.

(01:01:27):
And this would be the time whereyou know, you have the female lead
probably say hey, Casey, whatare you doing this? Again in Dark
Territory, the same scene happens.Morris chest On, who's a noticeably better
actor. Casey's in a kitchen andhe says, hey, Casey, what
are you doing In case he goes, I'm building a bomb. It's the

(01:01:50):
literal same scene. But she Iguess she is not good or something.
They just gave her no lines orshe just watches him and watches the bomb.
Well, I think they do explain, because this is when he's got
his team guys all there. He'slike, you, Gunner's mate, We've
got we've got artillery for this thing, haven't we? And it talk about
the talk about starbursts right right,and I don't know what that is.

(01:02:12):
And then but then loading these giantwhite cylindrical things about the size of a
shoe box into something. It's doingsomething, it all helps, it all
works. It's it's like the stopperfor the cannon, so like nothing flies
in the cannon. And starbursts arelike flares that they want to like light
up the sky without firing like anactual shot. So they're shooting the starbursts.

(01:02:35):
That's what they have in there.But then after the starbus are fired,
under the starbus are going to belike an actual live round of some
sort. Again, I've seen Greyhounds, so I know. Actually we skip
the bit where there's a seal teamcoming in to save them in a helicopter
and they just get shot down.So it doesn't this is Luigi, I
think Luigi and maybe so actually there'sthere's two helicopters exploded in this film.

(01:03:00):
Will Slice and he's scaling this.Yes, pready, he probably knows everything.
Every time I try the movie,he knows. He's like, yes,
I've done it fifteen times. Okay, leave me alone. I should
start doing that. I just startsaying radiopious, Was I found one?
Well? I found one? Blackhack down? Have you seen black Hawk?
Jurassic World was a little film calledJurassic World everywhere, Yes, they

(01:03:23):
take out the sales and then thewhole whole team of building these weapons of
some kind because they need to takeout the submarine. And Gary Buse's on
the submarine. He is far tooconfident that he doesn't have anything to worry
about, right until he's right though. If Casey doesn't exist, he they

(01:03:46):
win because he says, look,all I need is this and this and
this, and before everything goes wrong. Presumably it worked. He fixed the
thing that Casey broke or whatever.Right, but the submarine he stood on
gets fired upon. They're saying like, oh, they haven't got anything on
there. They can damage us,and then a shell gets fired at them

(01:04:08):
and explodes nearby, and they rose, oh, this is something that could
damage them, damages. They arestill calm when a second shot comes and
hits. That's my problem. Youwanted him to be more like, oh,
Crapp, come on, hurry up, and he's like he's taking a
band aid off. He's like,right backs gun, no, thank god,

(01:04:31):
beauty. He's getting killed. AndColmeny was killed earlier by by Eric
Aranyak. That arc. What doyou feel about her arc? Because she's
she starts out terrified hating guns andthen she learns to. She's not much
of an arc. It's more ofa straight line of she just want to
do it, and then she doesit. It's like a peas like I'm

(01:04:54):
afraid of guns and now I'm not. I'll never kill anybody, and I'm
the only dating musician in Then Caseysays the great line. Soon now the
next thing, I know, he'llbe dating musicians. That's a good line.
That was good. He has somegood ones in here. He gives
a couple. Yeah, yeah,that his comedy does does kind of work.

(01:05:15):
I think the bigger issue we haveis the relationship that forms between the
two of them, because it's beenvery much like brother and sister or just
she's along for the ride. Hedoesn't want it to be up until when
when they blow the submarine she hugshim, but it's still very much like
a friendly huge it seems. Andthen the end the final scene, what's

(01:05:35):
everything's dealt with? He grabs herhead, turns it and kisses it in
a way that I don't know ifit was in the script. Yeah,
that's because her reaction is very yeahchoice, It's very like it's not like,
oh, he gives me isn't like, Oh no, I'm sorry,

(01:05:57):
mom. I felt very icky.I felt icky about that. Yeah,
yeah, it wasn't great. Theentire crew or screaming and baying her when
she landed on helicopter, and peoplewho aren't up on deck just caressing the
TV screens watching her walking along.This is I get it, you're in
the Navy, but calm down,like you're being filmed for a movie.

(01:06:23):
I think they don't even call herby her name. I think they just
collared the month. This is misJuly. Yeah, July, Yeah,
pretty much. Yeah. Anyway,So it's just now Tommy Jones and a
few of his guys left. Sofamily who was standing right next to the
cannon as it was blowing up,Gary Puy. So he's either deaf or

(01:06:46):
dead at this point from just beingnext to a firing cannon. So Sigel
breaks in. Tommy Jones wearing sunglasses, he's put on the jacket back on
in a darkened room. He's stillwearing his sun buses when Secale comes in
and the two of them have afight. And this this kind of brings
me back to when we watched Cliffinger. He had stallone and John Lythgo fighting,

(01:07:12):
and if Stallone and John Lythgore gonnahave a fight, my money is
always going to be on Stallone becausethe other guy is John lyfco Hm.
But and but in that scenario,Lythgo actually kind of gets the upper hand
because because he would have because inthe plot he's military and Stallons of rock
climb. It also Stallone keeps likechecking back on other people. He's trying
to say various aspects of it,whereas Lyftgoes only directive is killers guy.

(01:07:38):
Yeah, but here it's Steven Segueland Tommy Jones. My money is of
course on Steven Seiguel and Steven scalehand only wins if this would But this
is what bothers me about under Siege. And this is why I liked This
is why Dark hurts great because yougot Carl. This is the I guess,
this is the Carl uh that waskind of like a Carl mixed with

(01:08:00):
Hans confrontation. But when Carl fightsMcLean, mcclean's a cop, but this
guy's like a trained murderer. Sothe kind of on even this ground where
even Carl's got an advantage, butMcLean's fighting for his laughing. Carl's kind
it's kind of a it could goeither way here there is like this is
like The Fast and the Furious thingwhere Seagal was like, I can't get

(01:08:23):
hurt in this movie. I don'twant any damage to happen to me.
He gets a cut on his eyebrow. I get a cut on my eye.
That's it. They probably had negotiatedthat for hours, like can we
at least like cut your eye ormind? During this fight? This fight,
Tony Jones has a knife, goesto stuffing with it and catches it

(01:08:45):
in his mouth. Makes no.I'm like, you won just keep going.
He bites on the blade and ripsout to me it's it's the it's
if Daffy Duck did it, itwould make less. That's like what I
was like, I don't understand.I remember I was thinking of the scene

(01:09:09):
in Rob Rory where tim Roth isfighting liam Neeson and he tries he's he's
like jabbing up liam Neeson and lieson his on the ground, and because
he's got hubris, tim Roth kindof swings down a sword and liam Neson
catches it in his hand, takesthe cut because it's not a dead cut,

(01:09:30):
but it gives him the advantage tostrike tim Roth sword blade in his
hand, right, but you don'tcatch it in your freaking mouth. That
doesn't make any I didn't make anysense to him. I was like,
that's how you're reading this fight.So he disarms Tony Jones with his mouth
and then takes his own knife andjust rams it into Tony Jones's head.

(01:09:54):
That's not that's not that's not enough. That's not enough, smashes mu.
It's like, you're not dead enoughfor me, okay, and then takes
the disk of the launch coats athis back poke and then they've gone two
minutes left to disarm these missiles beforethey blow up the world. I don't
know why, Honolulu, I believe. But let me ask you a question

(01:10:16):
about this scene that's coming up here, this this disarmed the missile scene.
What's the biggest flaw of this?What's the knife in the mouth part of
this scene? Run here? Doyou remember? It's a big flaw that
I don't understand, don't. Idon't know what it is. What does
it tell me? There's a they'reshowing like a perspective of the missile on
the viewscreen Okay, I have somethingelse for you. Go ahead. It's

(01:10:41):
it's flying towards Honolulu, and well, again, this is a nuclear missile.
Once it hits you know, Honolulunuclear yield, it's it's gonna probably
take over. Like most of it'sgone right, So it's taking path and
I guess this is some kind ofuh, something a missile person could tell
me. But it's like dodging rocksand I'm like, why it's the rock

(01:11:02):
and it's over you. I guessit's going and buy a certain trajectory.
But you would think that the trajectorywould be the first big land mask hit
it. But you're fotherling the cameraon the missile and it's like weaving in
and out of like mountain peaks,and I'm like, just go down.
It's straight down, that's it.I think. My my concern is that

(01:11:29):
they're trying to disarmed missile. There'stwo missiles have been fired. One gets
shot down and the other one they'retrying to to deactuate before it arrives.
And they managed to, but Ithink it's yeah, it still explodes.
They deactivate it and it explodes inmid air. Yeah, nuclear won't go
off unless the nuke is actually,uh, debt. You can like fire

(01:11:55):
a bullet at you fire a gunat a warhead and it won't go off.
I'm telling me, everything is likecamera or in the rock. That's
right. Yes, I had heardthat before, and it might have been
another movie about nucle miss Is wherethey said, like if it can lay
in a pool of gasoline and itwon't detonate, it has to detonate for

(01:12:16):
the normal way for the nuclear youknow, because if you ever seen every
what's that movie where they take apart the nuclear warhead and it's like encased
in like titanium And I get toanother thing and there's a panel and I
think it's the rock. I'm prettysure it's the rock. So yeah,
for it to blow up, thereis blowing up because if you watch that
scene again, you can see thewarhead has a little parachute on it,

(01:12:36):
right, okay, and which isprobably from kind of stock foot stock foote.
That part I got, I wasokay, fine, sure, because
I think he says that even earlier, because they were when they were firing
at the nuke. Miss July orwhatever says uh or are we gonna blow
up the nuke? And it goesno, no, no, it doesn't
work that way or whatever. Sothey set that up. But the part
where the missile is dodging the mountainpeaks that are trying of its target,

(01:13:00):
I didn't understand. Up. Yeah, okay, so but so the day
is saved. Everything's fine. Theythey de well the door open, save
the guys are inside it. Andthen I think it's a cub who's one
of the guys from the Gaddiadia whoThe guy was like, hey, show
me some moves. Cub dance anotherguy to the dance. It's a move
he's called. It's called sexual assault, and I go, yeah, sexuals

(01:13:30):
the whole group. There's another partof this that that right before this scene
that I laugh every time is whenhe Casey right back deactivates the last nuke
and everywhere it's like yeah, andyou kind of hear in the background because
the new military had sent like theirtheir last resort was to send like the
air force to bomb the boat.And you hear a case and go call

(01:13:53):
off the bombers, call off thebombers, and I'm like, that's a
better movie here. When they don'thear him, they kill everybody because they
didn't be here that they forgot tocall off the bombers. Ye. Well,
fortunately they don't do that there.They took off the bomas, and
then we get we cut to theNavy funeral. Seguel is now in his
navy dress uniform. He's wearing hisribbons. I assume it's for the captain.

(01:14:17):
Yeah, the numerous other people whodied, doesn't matter. It's just
they're just storing the captain here andin the background, John Tate now wearing
a Navy uniform. Are we toassume she has now joined the Navy?
To think about that? I thoughtit was like some kind of she's like

(01:14:38):
a guest of honor or at leastlikes just she's still in line with the
other guys. She's just she's justshe's not wearing the hat. Guys.
The other guys are wearing the hatand saluting, where she's wearing the same
uniform, no hat, and cry. Is that? Okay? Let me
ask you a question. I can'tremember. Is that before that funeral,
before or after they docked, becausemaybe they just gave for whatever clothes they

(01:15:00):
had on the boat. I remember. If it's after this, after they
do it makes absolutely I'm watching itnow. Well, if it's before they
docked, they would have had acoffin on board. Well, yeah,
they probably have coffins on board.If they get shot, somebody dies are
given barret. I could buy thatit is at sex. It is on
the deck of the battleship. Somaybe it's maybe that is just we have

(01:15:23):
these clothes. You can have theseclothes, but that's the best clothes they
can get her is the Popeye uniform? Maybe, but then it's just putting
her in line with everyone else?Is that It's what I didn't under Fine,
so maybe she hasn't joined anything.I like to think she joined the
name do they kill a man?Yes? Yeah, that's a fun first
day. So that's under siege.I enjoyed a great deal. Any any

(01:15:47):
other thoughts that we didn't get toanything we miss? What? What was
your favorite killers it? Timily Joneskid? I think it's gotta be because
it's got the whole, the wholeattracted fight beforehand, the knife in the
tea, just that he fights itwith his teeth, and well the beam
going the good of going through theguy is a great one as well,

(01:16:11):
very the most gruesome death. It'sa very fun destination style death. Somebody
gets cut with a jigsaw. Lateron in the movie, I think he's
killing on like random people and likehe's saying a workshop or something and just
puts a guy down on a sawlike that's not dead. He probably he's
in a lot of pain. Wehave like saws him like through his shoulder

(01:16:33):
and they cut away and I'm like, what have the That guy is your
And I liked the guy being killedby the Mark Wavesta. Tommi Lee Jones
is probably the more iconic death,but the fight doesn't make any sense.
Steven Skaal takes one scratch, literallygets one scratch in that fight. They

(01:16:54):
could have made it a little bitmore. The fight in the final fight
in the second movie, I thinkis a little bit better even though he
takes maybe two scratches. I thinkthey double it. But he also has
the great line because I don't thinkhe says after he kills how many times
does he say anything? Does hehave like a catchphrase? Oh? If
he does, I don't remember hehas a catchphrase in the second one because

(01:17:15):
he fights the guy from People onEverett Guy from People. Yeah, he
kills him spoiler and then he saysthey're fighting in the kitchen of the train
and he kills him, and thenhis line is nobody beats me in the
kitchen, And I was like,but they don't think he has a line
in Understeache one. I think hejust kills somebody shoulds and walks away that

(01:17:38):
I'm trying to scam back and havea look at it. But my demon
he is firsten So I cannot dothat. Dvin. He goes like,
no, that's enough, That's that'sin this weekend, no more. And
so one thing I'll like to saywith all these films is compelled him to
DeepC. So I've got the oldlist of how this film was like Deep
say, it is more like DeepCthan Rovnous was last week. I get
based in her. So the thebiggest comparison I have. There's a heroic

(01:18:01):
chef. Yes, it's the Preacherof this film. And he starts off
separate from the initial action that somethingdoesn't doesn't just cool. J use a
lighter to blow up a shark orsomething. Casey uses a microwave to blow
up a man. Yeah, wellit's it's not even just a lighter.
It's it's the gas from an oven, the gas from the oven. So

(01:18:25):
it's the gas from me a popularenclosed heat, a food cooking unit.
Something I didn't even write down,So thank you that for that you.
Obviously it's out at sea. Noone can come and help, there's no
escape. There's a wet suit scene'it's Casey does get scratched on his back
by a hook. We forgot aboutthat part. True, he is pretty

(01:18:45):
uninjured for most of the film.He does got a few here there.
There's a scene where a guy looksat a playboy magazine. Yes, and
Uncle Jay finds a playboy. Iwant to get out of it. I
want to live and this guy justlooking at the center fold of regret.
There's a birthday party, Captain's birthdayparty. Yes, that's Susans. In
Deep we see a plane arrives atwhere they aquatica and a helicopter explodes.

(01:19:12):
In this, a helicopter arrives anda plane explodes. As it turns out,
helico also explodes helicopter. Lots ofscenes take place in the kitchen or
a galley. As it turns out, Right Back has a history of is
a history of a mission where manypeople died just like Russell Franklin does because
I was like the only person tosurvive something in the past. What about

(01:19:34):
was Thomas Jane's backstory? Wasn't hewas a criminal? Right? He was?
He was a smuggler. Smuggler Okay, okay, something like I mean,
he went he went to prison,but he was a smuggler. We're
trying to compare the woman in DeepBlue Seed to Mission Live, but I
can't find any correlation compared to Janisonthat they're both blonde. Yes, there's

(01:19:55):
there's one truly gratuitous shot I've gotwritten down, which is McAllister gets undressed
and here Jordan Tate is already undressed. The crew most of the crew are
un rapidly filling with water. Yeah. Actually there's a bit where the door
opens and water gushes out, whichI think footage of that was used in
Deep Busy. I must have thescene in Under Siege the hero is handy

(01:20:19):
with a knife. Cart takes hisknife trying to open the doors in the
elevator shaft and SEAgel has chef knifeskills, and they are written here redistributing
explosives for Climax. Let that onesit there. Yeah, good, they're
gonna blow the shark ups. Theytake the gunpowder out of the fuses and

(01:20:43):
pull them into into the sphere usedto blow the shark up with, and
here they're taking out of they're doingmore carefully with like a nuclear word.
And the film ends with a kissthat should have been cut because which it
was cut in deep. You see, there was a kiss towards the end
between Carter and Susan which didn't makeit into the final of the film.
And I think this wilna be betterif they didn't kiss at the end.

(01:21:06):
Yes, and she was to bea character, give her some kind of
depth whatsoever, it would have beennice. Yeah, but hey, I
don't think he's I'm trying to rememberif he says anything to Tommy Lee Jones,
he'd be talking to a dead body. But he does it in the
second movie. We talked to adead body. But at least, you

(01:21:27):
know, what would the line beto Timmy Lee Jones after he stabbed them
ahead, gotta be a little bitmore creative, like I don't know,
bombs away, I guess, Iguess something would have to do with radar.
I think cause he sam said toa radar yeah or he takes the

(01:21:48):
nuclear key his back pocket. OhI remember, he says, keep the
faith. He says keep the faith. That's the line, keep the faith,
because he's wearing a crucifix, sohe's wearing across. Before they fight,
Timily Jones says something like we're thesame, but I don't have any
faith or something like that in thegovernment or something like that. So when

(01:22:09):
he kills him, he says,keep the faith something I remember. Double
check me. I'm pretty sure it'skeep the faith something I did. Like
that in most films, the characterwho says, we're not so different you
and it's the bad guy, butwe're the same. You're not the same.
You have faith in blah blah blahblah blah, and he says I

(01:22:30):
I don't or something the bad effectand that when he kills them, he
says something like keep the faith.Yes, A gal says you have sorry.
Tony Jones said, if you havefaith, I don't, right,
And so I'm watching the knife fightnow. I watched like he just tried
to stab him in another jacket,didn't go to another jacket, doesn't get

(01:22:50):
to the leather. He kicks TonyJones, and he like tumbles like eight
times and it's really time you leadsto which I give him credit spinning.
Yeah, So that's the eyebrowd cutcut and the teeth nice in the teeth

(01:23:12):
in there and nice in the head. He's keep the face Tranns. You're
right there, we go. Iknow it takes it squalks away. I
prefer nobody beats me in the kitchensa better line. That's a better line,
the connect with the character. Anythingcompeting the kitchen his eggs, what
putin come in here? What doyou feel about this line? The one

(01:23:36):
i'st thing I have to do isis compare this to Deeper See in terms
of how deep and how blue itis. You know this is coming.
So I'm going to compare us toCliffhanger as well, because that's the last
when you're here for so are youcounting the submarine? There is a submarine
shot. I'm counting of the tenseconds, but the submarine because when that

(01:23:58):
appeared, like oh great, sometokay. So Cliffhanger was on average five
thousand, seven hundred and eighty fivefeet up in the air and two point
four percent blue. Not our leastblue film. We've had less blue films

(01:24:19):
and since then wipe out whatever.The Descent and the Covenant are both less
blue than Cliffhanger because the Descent isentirely black and red. Basically Covenant is
all at night. And last weekwe had Ravenous was four point eight percent
blue, so not very blue.Where do you think under siege sits in
this? Wait, Ravenous, aren'tthere coats blue? That's it? That's

(01:24:43):
it. I'm thinking this this isthis is gonna be a fifty percent blue
because it's on the ocean, thenyou'd think that, but it's really not.
This is very not blue. Thisis really between Cliffhanger and rather this
is three and a half percent blue. Are you serious? It's like an
opening shot on the water. It'sgreat, it's there there. It's like

(01:25:10):
the only the most blue shots arewhen they're down in the like the radar
room. There's blue lighting all overthe place, but it's it's so not
blue. Mister L's wearing a bluejacket. I think, not that I
noticed. If it sense of researchand depth wise, it's I wasn't going

(01:25:30):
to go through the plans of abattleship. I bringed up on the list
doing that working out the depths thatthey are in different tights and things,
so I kind of averaged it outand it's it's mostly above water. It's
only the submarine shot that's a waterso it works out about thirteen feet above
above water in the end, Icould kitchen. Yeah, so it's not
very deep, even less blue.It's j Yes, Cliffhanger still our least

(01:25:58):
deep film until you do gravity.Yeah, absolutely well. I feel like
actually to make it a star Trekfour could be argued as being deep and
c adjacent because of all the whalestuff. But they go under water though
it's a lot of it is inspace still. Yeah, a lot of

(01:26:18):
it in a different galaxy. Soyou're very, very very not deep.
That's deep space. That's the onlything deep about it. So there's there's
deep blue. Analysis becomes ever morefutile with every passing week. But hey,
I like doing it so that weso dj thank you for coming to

(01:26:40):
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I will do anything for podcasting.And you can find more of my co
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final Fights episode on in the Siegetalking just about that fight between Tommy Jones
and Steven SEAgel which he analyzes thenumber of cuts where they go and all

(01:27:44):
that, all that stuff. SoI think him that analyzed the knife.
By that's that's I mean there ismore shark bites a knife in Deep Blue
Sea, because there is not.I don't even think a knife is used
on a shark in deeper because theknife gets taken. The life kind of
breaks. I think the door.Um, yes, a spig, I

(01:28:06):
gets used on it. But no, no, seems the gods more like
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finally getting back to it was supposedto be few weeks back. We're doing
Ice Sharks next week to the asylumfilm Ice Sharks. It's Cliffhanger meets Deep
Blue Sea. It's the most CliffhangerDeep Blue cy Ad Jason movie ever,
it is not at all. Yeah, Ice Sharks next week, come back

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for that. I just lost anykind of motivation to do this podcast.
We'll see how that goes. It'ssold. Literally just died in front of
you people. But for now,thank you DJ for joining me. I've
been Jake and I'll deep Please seeyou next week