Chapter 28 - The Poe and the Pendulum

Jay and Mark are joined by Emily Slade (@whythisfilmpod on Twitter) to discuss the chapter in which Garland Greene sits in an empty pool. In this episode, they also talk about lacklustre digging, high pressure hide and seek, and the hottest that Nicolas Cage has ever been. Enjoy!

Episode Transcript

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Bunny Down, Bood Bunny Down Downto buy Back in the Box. Hello

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and Welcome to con Air the podcastI Am Mark ten minutes ago Halfmyer and
I Am Jay Singh's Lewis Welcome youAboard Car the podcast Chapter twenty eight.
On this show, Mark and Iand some wonderful guests fly away through Connair
in forty chapters, talking about whatwe see and all the fund that's had
their run they're in and on chaptertwenty eight of Cornair what happens to Chapter

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twenty of Cornair Well. As thepolice convoy approaches, the Toms make an
effort to pull the jailbird from thesand, Poe continues to search for a
needle for baby Oh, and Lawyshows annoyance that they haven't made it to
learn yet. In the empty swimmingpool, Garland and a little Girl play
with dolls, talk about mental healthand sing little long. This is the
famous Garland green in the swimming poolepisode. It's one of the shorter chapters.

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You've got to talk about, butwe have a wonderful guests tell us
talk about it. From Why ThisFilm Podcast, in which she is doing
a whole section on Barbie films,and wouldn't you know it, there's a
barbie like doan this one? Itseems to have her on the show.
My second person from Suffolk is EmilySlade. Emily, welcome to the show.
Think you I'll take being your secondfavorite person. I'll take that half

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to the second because my wife isfrom Suffolk. Yeah, I definitely the
first favorite because the partner gets theautomatic first. Yeah, the obligation of
yeah, who else? Is itgoing to be? Ed? Sheerer?
And I don't think so? Whynot Ed? Why not? Good old
Eddie? Yes, he's never beena guest on the show. He won't

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return like true true, Yeah,we need it to his age and again
deep Blue CJ. He did,we were going to have him on to
talk about immediately. Can't think ofany films he's a big Deep bluecy two
fan. As as what he shouldbe as well he should be which was
that was the film that you cameto join us on, Emily, wasn't

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it too just? Indeed? Yes, that movie's wonderful, isn't it?
Yes? So good? No,so, Emily, we were talking last
Jay and I were talking last episodeand he brought up that this girl might
be just a figment of Garland Greene'simagination. I'm so glad that you said

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that, because if she's not,I'm like genuinely really concerned, because who
is this grubby orphans child in anabandoned swimming pool in the middle of the
desert. Well, I think wehave the name for this episode now,
Jay Emily, I think you justgave us the title for our next episode.

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Well, who knows where this willgo? No, you're right,
like, either she's part of thecartel, yeah, or she's a ghost
child niece yea, yeah, oryea, he made her. There's no

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sweat on her. Everyone else issweating all over the place. They're not
sweaty. Like he's just looking ather. The camera work is like there's
a shot when he's looking at herthat is unlike any other shot in the
movie. Yeah, Yeah, she'sgot it. She's got to be made
up. It's really crippy. Mytheory wasn't necessarily that she was part of

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his imagination, but that he hadhad some kind of a psychotic break and
had gone back in time in hismind and this was like that the trail
the park he grew up on.This was maybe the first person he killed
that started out with his kidding spreeage eight. Perhaps Oh wow, that's
so thoughtful. Yeah, I completelybuy it because it's so random. Otherwise,

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like I've completely forgotten about this scene. You were like, oh,
I had a scene with the Barbies. I was like this, I think
he gets like a buddy rabbit.I don't remember Barbies. And then when
I was really watching it, Iwas like, oh yeah, and I'm
gonna go a step food and juston this kind of realization. Now,
I think this is Garland reliving thatfirst interaction that's led to his killing spree,

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and he doesn't kill her this time. So I think I think this
is Garland becoming a better person andit being sant to be like a because
yeah, because we go. Becausehe survives this film, he's out and
free at the end, and Iwant to make that okay, get he

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gets the final shot. It's likerehabilitation. This is his moment of rehabilitation,
and it's sort of been happening theentire movie. He's such an interesting
character, isn't he. Because hecomes on board and he's so like he's
he's such a legend and he's sotightly secured. But then all he does

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is like bizarre little he will justtalk about how scary he is. We
never see him do anything scary otherthan the moment where this moment where you
are absolutely convinced because the teacup shatterssomething horrible has happened. But then it's
kind of a hands and frozen moment. If it is rehabilitation or it is

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him going back in time, becausewhy, I don't know if that happens
in this scene that we have thereveal that he's okay, that's not this
scene. That's a couple that's absolutelyfun. We've been talking about it,
though, you're free to talk aboutthe whole film. I've mentioned the end
already, so we see later onwhen the plane takes off that she's waving
it and she's alive. He's takenthe dog. Yeah, but this thing,

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it feels a bit cheaty if it'shis imagination or him going back,
and I'm that's very visually heating tobe like, hey, look, audience,
this sort of girl's fine, butso much of you already is like
that little girl physically cannot exist inthat space because someone's done some really bad
parenting. If that's the case,well, there are some some people who

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work at the airfield who are nowdead, so it's it's potential that she's
the daughter of the guy who's inthe air traffic control tour who Sendina's men
have killed. And there's the somuty and she's seeing in an abandoned drain
empty swimming pool surrounded by like reallylike gross toys. She has some fruit.

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There's some fruit on the table,so she's little lemons a couple of
I wasn't sure they were maybe lemonstreasure and has handy lemons. Yeah,
yeah, perhaps I was. Iwas guessing what like peaches of Apricor is
like, but who knows. Theycould be anything. So that's that's like
healthy food. They're like they're ingood condition as well, they're not like

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moldy. Yeah that's true. Sowhoever it is has access to fruit,
they can't be all bad show.She has some very antiquated clothes on,
like like all her clothes on aswell. Yeah. When I was fifteen
watching this in the theater, Iwas like, this is really weird.

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I was like, please don't gothere. Then I was just happy that
they didn't go there. I neveronce thought that this was a dream child.
But he's the only one who seesher. I feel like that's a
good like no one else sees her. M yeah, really strange character.
Yeah right, yeah. The cameralike it's fully like it's really POV from

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Steve Bishemi, and it's really liketrippy and sort of spacey. Where as
you've mentioned before, it sort ofindicates he's going on a mental break,
and very much to the audience,it's like you get the dreads, You're
like, oh my god. Imean the dread is immediate because it's like,
hey, we've put this guy thatwe've done nothing but to tell you

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for the last twenty minutes that he'slike Ted Bundy meets Edgeane meets Norman Bates,
meets all of these people. Nowhe's like the picture of innocence in
the most dodgy looking environment. Whatcould happen? So instantly as the audience,

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you're like, oh God, like, what diabetes man to be?
Okay, don't also put the weightof child murder on me at this moment.
I can't think of another movie thatgoes this way, like another action
movie, like a silly touchdown actionmovie features this as a as like an

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f plot in a movie, right, has there ever been anything like this?
Not that I think, because youknow what's interesting? So you brought
up a great point because on theplane he's very cheeky, he's minologue.
There's a deleted scene of him killinga guard, which I'm glad they kept
out. But in this one,you're right, he's very much on a

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dream state. Like the way helooked too, like his like eyes are
smalldering at this little girl and he'syeah, it's it's it's a really interesting
performance as well. I think it'sa fantastic performance. I mean, I
love stupid shimmy to pieces is.I'm sure everybody does. But like she

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does such a good job at retainingthis energy that he's been able to bounce
off. It quite like she givesto much energy and he's able to give
such a concentrated, minor amount ofenergy where she's like, are you sick?
And he's suddenly he's like, he'slike fine, fine, fine,

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fine, fine. Then she asksthat and suddenly suddenly it's like we're threatened
and he's like why why do youask? And you're like, oh god,
oh god, oh god, ohgod. It's just so such intense
performance. It's so good, andshe's like, you look sick, and
then literally like the conversation of likethe fear of like trying to explain why

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I am sick. I horribly nameand murder people for a living, possibly
you in a second. Oh God, it's real. It's fantastic. It's
fantastic, and I'm really glad thatthey have it because it's just another reason
why Connair. I watched Connair forthe first time when I was like fifteen,

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and we did like a Nick Cageday and we all got absinthe and
we watched a bunch of Knick Cagemovies, some better than others, and
this was just in there, andI remember just not really paying much attention
to it, and then coming backto it at the weekend, I was
like, this movie phenomenal, Likethis is so much fun. I'm having

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the best time. It's flying byand I love it. And it's moments
like this that I think really setit pop. That and including how Do
I Live, which is probably oneof the greatest sums ever written, and
I love the controversy behind how DoI Live? Too, with the two
people singing. It's one of myfavorite favorite, so if you ever have

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a chance, it's just I don'tknow if you know about it already,
but read about the controversy of thetwo SINGERSI I was like, how do
I live? That's what the adrhymes, and then I googled it and
it was like no, no,and I was like what. Yeah?
And also, do you think aworst movie would have like so at one
twenty six and the clip you sentover Jay when when they are kind of

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polling that wide shot out of theframe and you see the pool, do
you think a worst movie would havejust had him by himself? Like?
Yeah, I think. I likethe ambiguity if they had revealed like no,
this this is just in his head. I like, there's like people
say this sort of I said,people say it's not. People who have
never been considered there would be anythingother than what was being shown on screen.

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I love that. So yeah,finally it's she's there? But is
she there? Is this? Ishe directing this dream sequence? Is it
a dream sequence? I love thequestions also between airheads and this. Steve
Bruscheni has some pretty good swimming poolbits. Wait no, well, I
mean mentioned swimming pools and airheads andthat stuck with me for a long time.

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Now he's in a swimming pool andConnie, it all comes full circle.
Jackets such a shallow swimming pool.Yeah, well if you look behind
him, there's a bigger one.This must be the kids pool. Yeah,
and then there's the one for adultsbehind him. Learner's got a going
up. When Learner was popping,I bet it was a great place.

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When do we think that was?How long ago? Look at these pools,
two big pools. I mean,listen, you know it's like Earner
is like little Reno is what theywould call it. I don't know.
Maybe it's a good spot. It'snot just an empty swimming pool. It
is empty. It's cracked like ifyou put water it'll be horrible, dilapidated.

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And there's a chest of drawers inthere with soft toys in it.
This is her regular play area.That's that's her toy chest. Because old
great for me as a kid.But if I had two abandoned swimming pools
as a child, I would havebeen living a dream. That's quite like
a field swimming pool, more likecloser to the dream. It's empty.

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It's like you could you could youcould hurt yourself in there with skateboarding.
Oh great, there's so many ways. Yeah, like there's so many different
ways to hurt yourself in this thing, and that's been perfect for me.
Also, Hey, Fast and Furious. They raced the salt flats, remember,
So I wonder if, like backin the day, they used to
have races out there and people wouldcome and stay and then they stop and

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then this this place shut down,do you think? Yeah? Why not?
I mean it just it's like ait's like a plain graveyard. This
place. It's weird. Oh yeah, it does have a thing called the
graveyard. They call it the boneyard. Yeah, the boneyard. Yeah,

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he just to like potentially fluff thetheory. The only thing from the
scene that other people interact with isthe Kendall that he keeps from the interaction.
Yes, it and later picked upby other characters in a very natural,

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strange thing to be on it.Yeah, so I think that the
setting is correct. I think thathe's walked into maybe he's he's he's found
the Kendle on the floor and that'slike this trigger ah used to have.
I remember that little girl, hername is Debbie. She's creed as Debbie
in this I killed her when Iwas eight. I ate her spleen.

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This is her kendle and he justsits down as a whole, the whole
altar alteration between her, but keepsthe kendle, doesn't kill her. He's
a good guy. Now. It'sfine that he's alive at the end,
free of it. It's funny,though, isn't it, Like what are
we they? I was trying notto think too hard about it because I
was like plane goes boom boom andJohn Markovitch goes ha ha it the movie,

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So I wasn't trying to be like, what are they trying to say
on the stage of mental health andnature versus nurture and the rehabilitation of serial
killers? Is that really something thatyou can just decide to not do one
day? Can you just turn itoff? Or is it like an actual
mental illness? And I was likeJohn Markovich's face got smushed, So I'm
not going to think about it toomuch. But they do start that combination

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a couple of times, like aque Sacon and and uh Tomini have that
chap where Kisaki is saying how he'sa Sorrys's approach of the system, and
it's like, oh, you oneof those guys who wants to have a
problem with the prison. He's likeyeah, So they start that conversation,
but then people start dying and theystop talking about it anymore, and it's

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shot the plane down, don't shootthe plane. Don't shot the blade now.
And also too, like I feellike in movie world, major major
illnesses and you know, health issuesand addictions are cured quite quick. So
in the world of con Air,in this world, you know, who

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knows, maybe that does happen thatfast. I'm not trying to do like
a cheat code here, but I'venoticed in movies like major issues can be
you know, you can solve themwith like a good family chat and uh,
you know, a church to thehospital and so yeah, that pretty
much shores everything. So is thisis beginning it? I still think he's
gonna murger people in Vegas. Ohno, I was really hoping he was

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a good guy. Now maybe he'sonly gonna murder bad people. Oh yeah,
I'd watch Conne too step for SHEMIkilling bad people next Vegas with Darling
Green Pets and James Remar shows upand gives him all his rules but you're

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not my dad. He's like,yeah, but Showtime has me for two
more seasons, so I'm working onthis, but Cusack is still hunting him.
At one point they have to meetand have a chat about to try
and convince q Sack, no,I'm a good guy now. Yes,
I ate those people, but I'ma good guy. Now. I only
eat bad people. They taste somuch better. Can you come back from
eating people? Wait? Wait,did he say that he eat people?

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They didn't he? Do you think, Emily, do you think he's accountibal?
I don't know. If the implicationis that he is like the absolutely
worst thing you've ever seen, andhe is compared to all of the major
serial killers who did oft partake inthe odd nibble of a person. They

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weren't fully fledged, you know,hannibals, but they you know, they
did make like lamps out of yourskin and perhaps have a chew while they
were there. I don't know,Maybe I'm making that up. I got
the impression that he was. Idon't know. But then the things he
says is so bizarre. The wayhe's like, why did I kill all

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those people? Like paraphrasing here,but like why did I kill those people
because my life was going to bea nine to five office job. So
I thought said very paraphrasing, butthis is basically what he says. He's
like going to an office Monday toFriday until you retire and then die with
nothing to show for it. That'scrazy, that's insane or whatever. And

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you're life were heads his hats.So yeah, he's I what his head
is. There are so many otheroptions. You could try freelancing, you
could go to university. I've justfeel there's other options before turning to ripping
people's heads off and turning them intohats. There's white water raft guides,

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like, you could be a guyto white we know, skydiving, And
is it the Nick Cage being firstlythe most attractive man on the planet in
this movie? So attractive in thismovie isn't Nick Cage, it's it's working.

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Yeah, my goodness. The hair, the tan, the eyes,
the body, the way he likejust really loves his wife and kid like,
Oh, he'll like do anything forhis friends. Take crap either,
he's super sassy. Oh my god, it is military uniform at the beginning.

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Oh yes, um, what's mypoint? Oh that does Steve Bishemy
look over at the likes of NickCage the good side of the plane and
be like, you know what,I've given a choice, I'd rather be
with Nick Cage, who's exceedingly handsomethan John Malkovitch, who is, you

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know, not bad but still verymuch John malcot evil. Are you saying
that a kind of like the overallaura of Cage in this one sort of
transformed him into being a better serialkiller. That's what I'm wondering, because
it's like, where does it comefrom? Otherwise, like does our main

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character in our main plot have anythingto do with this character's arc or is
it in its entirely own thing wheresomeone just wanted Steve Bishemy in the movie,
and like Stevey's Journey could be itsown movie. It feels so separate
to the rest of it. SoI'm just trying to link it in with
the rest of the film to belike, why why is this happening?

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I know that Rushemi's buds with theguy who wrote It's got Rosenberg, so
then they gave him this role.But I also like thinking that maybe Cameron
Poe would be great for rehabilitating serialkillers because he doesn't take crap from them.
He could beat him up, Billsass him. He's not overly afraid
of him. He's more just tiredof him. Like he'd be a good
serial killer rehability. That'd be likea TV show on TLC, the Learning

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Channel, Cameron Pole Rehabilitate serial Killers. I would watch that. What do
you think, Joe, I'm tellingyou what. It would be called Poe
serial Killers something around. I'd getAlan Poe like quaff like yeah, the

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pit, No, the Poe andthe Pendulum and the like. It was
really but I just want to goback to what you were saying about Cage
because I remember watching this in fifteenand he was the trapped in Paradise,
the guarding test guy, and sowatching him Jack like get like super like

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Arnold Ask or Stallone ESK. Remembergoing like what is happening? Like this
didn't. I was like, theleaving Las Vegas guy is now like a
A level superhero. So it did. It was a fun transformation to watch
from him, And yeah, Ikind of dug it when you watch well,
I guess you're probably too deep inthe absence, But do you remember

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seeing that when you first watched itor no film because I didn't I've never
charted Nick Cages. My like introductionto Nick Cage was that God probably was
it Comedy Central. It was likea comedy skit on YouTube of like Nick
Cage's agent, and it was theguy with Nick Cage just saying yes to

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every movie, and so he wasalready sort of jokes. So we're talking
like Nick Cages in cinemas with Thewicker Man at this kind of time.
So that's where he's at. He'slike a laughing stock of cinema. But
then in a couple of years timehe'll do bad Lieutenant. So we've notched,
I've not charted his progress from darlinglike Oscar's darling through to like some

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bizarre choices onward. So it wasn'ta shock to me for him to be
jacked in this because we were sortof all over the place with our Nick
Cage viewings. We did like seasonof the Witch, we did adaptation probably
The wicker Man as well. That'sreally interesting because becoming a fan of his
and the twenty tens is a bitlike whiplash because you'll get a kick ass,

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but then you'll get us Men ofCourage. Indianapolis you'll get Inconceivable,
then you'll get Mandy, then you'llget mom and dad, and then Pig
pops up and it's just like it'sit's like a roller coaster of varying like
very good to just what's happening inmy life? Yeah, so that's kind

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of fun, like discovering him andlike getting into him around the twenty tens.
Yeah, just watching and then helike pots up in Spider version.
You're like, what's happening? Yeah, yeah, literally, it just just
and then of course most recently he'shad his own movie, which I haven't
watched yet, but like it.It's really weird. It just yeah.

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So but like more than anything,he was a laughing stock, and yet
there was already the argument on theother side of that of him doing really
good work. And then you goback it's it like Moonlight that he's in
with Share that you go back farenough leaving Las Vegas. Yeah, he's
been. He was in some reallygood films like Valley Girl in the eighties,

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I mean yeah, and then aunique career I Kiss and Face Off
and all it likes. So yeah, I think he was a meme,
a meme. Sorry, Yeah,Moonstruck that was it. Um he was.
He was a meme more before hewas anything else. So yeah,

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really strange time you talk to myfather in law and he says he's the
same in every film. Yea,Joe is worth a watch if you haven't
watched it. Joe is He's sogood in that movie Joe Joe. Yeah,
it's David Gordon Green directed. Idon't know if you've watched it or

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not, but I think, actually, I think if you just I've been
saying this for a while, butif he just chuck Nicholas Cage in the
woods. So Joe, Mandy andColorado Space he's in the woods, and
those are really popular, like reallygood movies. So I just chuck him
out in the woods. Maybe givenlike he can maybe be an arborous because
he cuts down trees. And Mandyand he kills trees and Joe, it's

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like add some add some trees,some woods, something paranormal, maybe a
revenge mission, some beer drinking,and you got like a Nick Cage class
and pig two. He's in thewoods. Yeah, it's probably the woods
and not the jungle, because he'sin the jungle in primal and that's not
good yeah, I guess, butthat's a beautiful movie. Yeah, so

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sort of a wood work a man. He um. He's an excellent father.
I will say that for Nick Cage. Yeah, came to the I
told you this story. He cameto the doors of the London Dungeon when
I worked there with his kid,and I asked if it was too scary,
and we just sort of described itand explained it and said, you

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know, if they're nervous of thedark or things jumping out of them,
we do recommend that you don't bringthem in here. And so often parents
will just be like, oh,shut up, kid, we're going in,
and then enough to leave off.Through that, he made the very
sensible decision to not come in andhe went on his very way along South
Bank. Ah. What a greatguy. Yeah, really good guy.

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I thought you meant he was agreat dad in this film, kid,
you I was like watching it andI was like a little bit and my
brain was like shore to check outfor the Bechtel test, and I was
like, shut up, Yeah,it definitely doesn't pass the Bechtel test.

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There are I think five female characters, one of whom may be imagine.
It's way more than I expected thereto be. Now, granted they were
all there to serve a purpose fora male counterpart, but you know they
tone it down as Well's assistance whosename I can't remember, that's how Jenny,

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Jenny, thank you just name feltNo Ginny? Is it Ginny reason?
Angela Featherstone In the script of reallyline, she's falling over Kesa's character
and she's, ah, I wishhe'd see me. I want to say,
I think when he when he theytalk about plans for the weekend.
Then he walks away, and sheliked, momoss, oh, I can't

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you just ask me out? Well, they do improve it from the script,
Yeah, they averyones that talked toeach other are another daughter, and
all they're talking about is your dad'scoming home, and it would be nice
for your dad. Yeah, yeah, I hope he brings me a Barbie

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imagine. Yeah, yeah, that'dbe an interesting story. Serial Killers,
Barbie you stole gave to your daughter. That's a sequel. That's I mean,
you need to be true at timesright again, not to try and
skip to the end, but theend it's just yeah, like you're you're
in Las Vegas. There's a planethat has landed. There's horrific act students

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all around you. Corps is pilingup by the minute. It's dangerous,
it's frightening, it's high tension.You're like five, and this man covered
in blood and sand approaches you andhands you this like grotesque, dirty,

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frightening creatures. It's a little dirty, and it's like it's a lot dirty,
Like as are you, sir?Like please John Cusack get him into
the hotel to give him like ashower and a haircut or something before he

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meets his wife. Like this placeis already fart. When they were getting
out the plane and they were like, that's it, value, mom,
go that way, I was like, what are they doing here? This
is basically scene. This is anactive disaster area. Most of this is
on fire. Get back in thehead. I wish you could have said,

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like, hey, hey, hummingbird, I ripped that from the hands
of a serial killer to give toyou. You wouldn't put it back in
the box, I told him,but I'll tell you later. Yeah.
That's like a like a couple ofyears later. That's her bedtime story.
This is the thing she's like talkabout attachment theory and like therapy in the

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future, like, that's the that'show she met you Just I want the
movie where she sat across from thetherapist being like, yeah, and that's
kind of how I met my dad. It was crazy and in hindsight,
my mom really shouldn't have brought meto this scene. Um, that's now

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my dad got arrested because he youthat guy baby Oh, that he saved
you know what he's guilty of.Never explained it in this movie. What
do you think Baby O did?Emily? They never explained what Baby O
did? So what do you Wehave a theory? Well, baby is

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the one of Dirbetes, right,Yah, Okay, so in nineteen ninety
seven, in this movie, Ithink that the implication is that he's probably
innocent and it was some sort ofracial injustice that he's in prison. Yeah,
because this is the plane of theworst of the worst, so it's
got to be. The theory thatwe posited was that he was trying to

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he was trying to get his handson some incident because his main character trait
is diabetic, and he broke intothe wrong place and ended up, yeah,
accidentally like killing the police commissioner's entirefamily or something. Just like at
didn't mean overreaction to the crime,because how America shoots people. The fact

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that he's on the worst of theworst of the worst plane means that he
of someone high and he's like,I'm not going to see one of those
was for a long time. Soyeah, because the commissioner hates you and
it's going to take you down aprivatedn commit just with the racist system that
also is probable you just at apharmacy and gets arrested. And then yeah,

(32:22):
he was carrying a needle to dohis incident and he was a gun.
Yeah, he cut the commissioner,like he cut the mayor in line
to get his stuff, and themayor just got annoyed. Not even that
that the mayor tried to cut inand he's like, excuse me as a
cue, and that's all it took. Hey, watch out now, Watch
out now. And I'm not guilty, that's what everyone says. No,

(32:47):
really, I'm not. Genuinely.I would have if I was in that
like big boardroom with all the flashyscreens. I know someone sort of mentions
it, but I would have pushedit further out, have been like,
I'm sorry. His idea was itto put every single one of the absolute
worst criminals in America. But wehad to all like bring here as well

(33:07):
so they can do a SlowMo exitoff their little buses onto the plane,
like if this goes wrong, thisgoes horribly wrong, which is a brilliant
premise for a movie, but aterrible idea in real life. So I
watched The Passenger fifty seven recently onthe show where they take that premise and

(33:28):
make it so much worse by thereis a guy who is he's been arrested
because he's been in charge of planetakeovers. That's all he does is he's
hostile takeovers of planes, and thenthey fly him to a prison. I
wouldn't you know he takes over aplane on the roof. Whoops, someone's

(33:51):
losing a job. Why did youput this guy on a plane who takes
over planes? I thought this onemight be different. I've got magneto here.
Do you want me just hand hima bunch of magnets while we transform
prison? Yeah, good for it. What's the word's gonna happen? We
can trust them the magneto. IfI put you in this prison, metal

(34:15):
prisoner, are you gonna escape?Nah? No, nah, just the
next day magnets are I would liketo be the guard responsible for that.
Like, what were you thinking?Like he said, he said he'd be
fine, he said, no,I mean. And also, who is

(34:35):
Diamond Dog hitting in this one?Diamond Dogs whipping one of these guys.
He's whipping the guards. Oh,two of the guards are like tied together.
That's what it is. Put.Yeah, so he's getting but yeah,
a Diamond Dog like seems like apowerful guy would be useful in towing
this plane. They're already missing.They're missing Cameron Poe, another guy who

(34:58):
abuseful to this. But I feellike Diamondalk would be a good guy to
have here because they've got thirty There'sthirteen people suing, sorry, thirteen cons,
two guards. There's should be athird guard someone I don't sure where
that there's thirteen cons and two guardspulling and a guy with one the tractor
and then just just whipping and JoeHeavynes plane is this plane are heavy?

(35:23):
Thirteen thousand, five hundred and sixtykilograms or almost thirty thousand pounds. This
is a very heavy plane. Idon't think these guys would be able to
just corn aired world though, theseguys are super strong. The worst of

(35:43):
the worst are the toughest of thetoughest. Babio and Bishops. They're stood
on the plane as well. Addthat on there as well. I don't
know what else this is. It'sa big plane, yes, it's conne
fine whatever, they're putting the planeon the sand. I don't care.
The manly manly men, well,you're not watching the movie. Everyone in

(36:04):
this movie is a big manly man, except for Steve Bashemi, who's like,
probably really strong, but he alwayslooks weak compared to the other guys
on the plane. That sort ofyeah, it's sort of like Sally can't
dance, isn't. She's off doingher own thing as well, So they're
missing a bunch of people that couldbe helping it. I'm very fustrated by

(36:29):
this, and I like it.I do like you know, Viking to
come back. He's like that ropetoss over the over the wing that's good.
Up to has put his shirt backon. He's got a little bit
chiley since the last chapter where hewas digging shirtless. Actually the digging at
the start of this chapter. Ithink it's a little black cluster. You
get it. They've been digging fora while, but no one sas to

(36:50):
be putting any effort in anymore.It's very hot. They happening for a
while. It's very sandy. Iwould be really stressed. So when you're
playing highland Seek as a kid inyou start, the anxiety starts to take
over and you like can't move.Did you ever get that you were like
frozen with the pressure of needing tolike, Yeah, you played much more

(37:12):
high stakes games of hide and seek. I think I don't even remember playing
hide and seek. Oh no,I found a lot of bad bag we
played it in. I found thebest place in my childhood bedroom where I
actually get up on the window silland behind the curtain, which I think

(37:34):
I wasn't found there many, many, many times I go to place because
it was like in wait, Ifeel like if they'd seen the light.
So we was played at nighttime?Okay anyway, Yeah, that was my
go to is behind the curtain onthe window side. Well, now I
know your tricks. I don't livethere anymore. Mark, that's that's now.

(37:55):
My my five year old nephews goto room when you saying my parents,
and I'm not gonna go hiding inmy nephew's room. That would be
weird. It's nice to see TyGranderson Jones featured a little bit. Yes,
he catches one of the ropes.We had tie on the show.
So yeah, yeah, we're talkingabout the movie. Yeah. I mean

(38:15):
they're quite efficient in getting this outof there, like this is this is
a pretty well oiled group of kindof alpha's working together, men who do
know each other think terrible at teamwork. But I guess it's the just absolute
intention of like we need to likewe're gonna escape, like the kind of

(38:37):
hallie when they will join and they'reall like I could turn the plane and
everyone's like, shut wait till we'rein the air before you start yelling God
is the coming go And the fearof the leaders. I think they don't
want to please something wrong and haveCyrus do whatever he would do to them,

(39:00):
like he's yeah. I have aquick question about this diner too,
Jay, has anyone eating there recently? Or is this close because it says
open and it looks because there issome stuff on the table. Did everyone
in this town just get slaughtered?Well, there's the old the old guy
hiding under the truck. Yeah,is nearby to this petrol station, because

(39:24):
that's where we'll see him soon.That's great. So I reckon he was
in the diner and he saw theplane land. Peat at the window goes,
oh, this is bad news.I'm gonna go hide now. So
I think that's his din Dina.Oh okay, we want a movie about
Nick Cage's diner, Like, Ijust want a Nick Cage diner movie.

(39:44):
Oh my god, Nick, hiswife and daughter just running a diner,
living their best lives. Him andAndrea Riseboro roteam re team together and just
work a diner for ninety minutes.Have you seen mand No, no,
it's insane. Have you seen MandyJay No yet. Oh it's a gnarly

(40:07):
but yeah, she's Mandy in thatmovie. Andrea Riseboro and then shows in
there. I'd like Andrea Rosborough.No, that's so cool. Now it's
a gnarly movie in this right,Yeah, and listen, all apologies ahead,
But it's gnarly. But it's asensory blasting, beautiful experience. But

(40:29):
it it features so much violence andfire and nudity and monologues and chainsaws and
maybe somebody headings. A lot ofcocaine, some acid, a tiger.
Okay, wow, I'm not gonnawatch this with the wife. No,
don't now, I want a dinermovie. Have y'all seen to Leslie?

(40:53):
No? No yet, I gotit. We've got so moon Struck is
the Knick Cage Bakery film. Yeah, it could happen to you. How's
it is? She's a Dina waitressand that isn't she? Yeah? I
mean this Nick Cage diner patron.Yeah, so that's like close to being

(41:15):
a Nick Cage Dina films that couldhappen to you. I think that's want
to make them make make a remakeThe Chef with Nick Cage. Oh yeah,
with John Legozamo, just making grilledcheese around the country. Yeah,
and it could be his daughter fromConnor can be his daughter. And in
place of the sun, listen,we've never met. We're gonna go around

(41:37):
the country and make grilled cheese withJohn Legozamo. That's a movie. That's
a good movie. And they cantalk about their plane movies because lego Zama
was an executive decision. Why notI go I go way off track,
Emily, you probably. I thinkthat's one of my favorite shots in this

(41:59):
movie too. It's very symmetrical.This diner like centered on him. I
love the way that he pivots.There's some quite artistic shots in the last
few things, like when Bushemi isGarland Green is walking past the fence,
the barbed wire fence. That's likea really good looking shot. And then
here like I feel like the DPearned his money actually got to shoot some
cool things. It's so bleached out, like going from caging the diner to

(42:23):
Garland outside, it's so like starkand bright and pale. Yeah, it's
like they turned the saturation up abit. All the colors are slightly too
much. But also like all ofthe shots are so like that we get
so much close up on faces thatwe don't really get throughout the rest of
the movie. It's, as yousay, it's like it's very much its

(42:45):
own little world. That shot fromhis POV is pretty narrowly. I like
that one. I think Bushemi hasthe most close ups in the film of
Like the camera is three inches fromhis nose and it's like, yeah,
just look a little bit down tothe left, don't change it, don't
we want it just just be you. It's it's always mean we need,

(43:07):
we need to look. It's likereally endearingly. He's really attractive in like
the strangest way. I can't explainit, but I wouldn't kick him out
of bed. I mean, hejust has a unique look he does.

(43:29):
Yeah, he's kind of funny looking. But I've never seen him dressed up.
Have you ever seen suited Steve Bushemyor Wamper? Yeah, yeah,
he's basically gonna suit the entire time. Yeah, Nuki, Oh he's looking
pretty slick here m yeah, yeah, the best. Shall we do a

(43:51):
Steve Bushey draft? Yeah? Sure, that's draft five films each start,
So I just pick a step BUSHEMMImovie that I love? Yeah, ghost
World, I knew you were gonnastarts. I knew it early, Scar
Joe Yeah, and thorpe Burch ohMark who airheads of course. Yeah,

(44:19):
I'm gonna take whenever I get achance to take it, I take it.
Romance and cigarettes film, no oneelse whatever, pick ever And he
sings in a scene for a musicalwith Pete Winslet and James Gandolfini James Genlfinie
singing Barry Man, Oh no,sorry, but waning to watch it since

(44:40):
I was like fifteen, like it'sbeen on my to watch this for years.
You want to see Christopher Walkens strutdown a diner singing Delilah. Watch
this film, yes, and likeGush sings in this chapter. Does not
sing in the actual musical, buthe's in. He doesn't get a song.

(45:00):
It was featured twice and this songHe's Got the Whole White World in
Sams's feature twice and ninety seven.They sang in rocket Man too with Harlan
Williams. Nice I did another touchdownmovie, Disney movie useless fact. It's
in TUTSI as well. It's inRoxanne's in Dave Wow. Well, that's

(45:22):
the second time Rocketman has crossed myears today talk about the whole w was
filmed. I don't like where elsedid that come up? He had a
run, he had half baked man. There's something about Mary. I was
listening to a podcast about the Lastof Us because a rocket manage written by
Craig Mason, who made The LastUs. If you want to if you

(45:44):
want to see a real sharp turnin someone's filmmaking career, look at the
history of Craig Masons. He madethe Last of Us. He made Scary
Movie three and four, The HangoverPart two and three. Oh my god.
Yeah, anyway, we're back toyou, Emily. What's what's your

(46:05):
next? Appreciate me monster zing?Yeah, oh good one. That's a
go. I'm gonna do Escape fromLa because a surfboarding snake Pliskin catches him
and dives into his convertible. Ifanyone was gonna take Escape from La,
I will take. I'm gonna takeMiller's Crossing, which I think I've said

(46:30):
it before. Got cast in thatone because he could say the dialogue faster
than anybody else that auditioned. Andhe's worked with the Cones a lot ever
since, and that was just whatgot him through the door. Was he
could say words quickly. Nice lovethat uh me again? Yep HSI one
dogs, Oh of course, greatful. I'm already toast here. So I'm

(46:52):
just gonna I'm gonna have some fun. I had a movie, Where's that
I'm gonna take? I love himin Desperado. He makes me laughing Desperado,
so I'm gonna do that. RobertRodriguez was one of my favorite directors,
So I'm gonna take Desperado. Istill haven't seen Desperado. I don't
want David for years. It's AntonioBandera, Samahayak, like Robert. I

(47:16):
love Robert Rodriguez. He like toget El Mariachi made. He did a
bunch of like he had a bunchof people do studies on his body to
make money. And then and hiscommentaries like growing up when I was younger,
I guess growing up, I don'thave to say when I was younger,
but growing up I learned a lotabout filmmaking from his commentaries and book

(47:37):
and he would always do a cookingclass on his DVD s. I'm a
huge Rodriguez guy, always will bem nice. I'm gonna say, gun,
it's like Fargo. I've got twoCohens on my list. I don't
care. Fargo is just a quintessentialappreciate. I think you're a complicent of

(47:58):
which chip. That was the originalname for my blog was her accomplice in
the Woodshop? That was too early, Ye, that was my first idea
to name it. I thought like, this is too earthy, this is
silly, so I changed. Ichanged his life. I regret that decision.
Back to the Monster House. Ohyes, excellent choice. You have

(48:20):
the two animated films with monster inthe title I do. Does he have
any other movies with monster in thetitle? University? Oh yeah, I
think about the Death of Start AndreaRisebro. Yeah, that's a fun film.
I love that movie. I willtake I'm gonna take Home again,

(48:42):
a film that he does sing in. What are you singing? Leaving on
a jet plane? He's got he'sgot space dementia. He sings that exists,
doesn't he? He sings in theWedding Singer. He sings in.
He sings in at least one ofthe holes of Transylvania films. Most as
it turns out, let's do abonus episode of ranking Steve Boushemi's best singing

(49:05):
scenes. Oh yeah, it's gonnabe final film. Yeah, your final
film? Can I pick Monsters University? Sure? Yeah, I think he's
barely in it, but yeah,I think a little kid Randall, He's
like yeah, yeah, yeah,So like righting, I actually enjoy the

(49:31):
hotel chance of Indian movies like BigLebowski is still out there, but I've
got two cones already. People canthink we're so are you not gonna pick
Big Lebowski? Jay? I meanI've already got Fargo with middles crossing.
I feel like you can't leave thatone up. I feel like I'm going
Dead Don't Die because I'm a bigJarmash fan, and I love his hat

(49:53):
and it what does his hat say? The Dead don't Die? He has
a very funny hat and the Deaddon't I adore that movie. He has
a hat that says his hat doeskeep America white again and don't Die.
I love Jim Jarmush. So I'vesat here thinking, but I might take

(50:14):
The Incredible Burt Wonderstone over The BigLebowski. That cannot be because everyone knows
the Big Lebowski. I love TheBigglebowski. It's a phenomenal film. I
love it so much, but everyoneknows that one. Whereas the Incredible one
Stone. I think it's actually prettygood as comedies go, Ah, do
it live on the edge. Ihave either of you seen the Incredible Burt

(50:36):
Wonderstone? Yeah, okay, that'swhat the Jim Carrey Yeah, and then
Steve Bushey's the sidekick to Steve Carrell'ssidekick, and then Jim Carrey comes along.
It's like a David Blaine mentalist,extreme magician who like staples things to
his forehead and stuff, and itcauses a riff for this weekly. This

(51:01):
is I'm looking images now, thisis mad. This has never ever come
across my radar at all. Ever, How have I never changed your life?
Yeah? I mean it's lower yourexpectations. I would say it's not
world breaking, but it's of me. That's a good thing. In the

(51:21):
cast. Look, it just lookslike a little fun It looks like Eurovision
movie pre year Vision movie. Yeah, it's it's that with with less singing
and more magic. Stebu Shammy shouldbe in the next Eurovision movie. Absolutely,
he should be any as in whatwhat Icelandic belter like crooner? Well,

(51:43):
they've they've done ice. They shouldhave to go somewhere else. He
should be like a new New Zealandother wax and Sweeden do Yeah, yeah,
we can New Zealand enter the EurovisionSure, no again if you're in
the can oh okay, yeah,let's put them in there and let them

(52:05):
belt songs out. So Miley Cyruslike her latest song, have him reenact
that. Oh my god, Iwould pay money to see that. What's
what's name of the latest song?Like the Bruno Mars it's not party in
the USA, So that's the onlymighty song I can name. Sorry,
I know that which product. It'sfun. Listen to it. It's so

(52:30):
good. Yeah, that's a goodline. I think I know that song,
but didn't know it was her.I'm out of touch with that music.
Have you heard of Rihanna. She'squite good. I think she's had
fourteen number one hits in the States. Rihanna. Oh, she's my god.
Yeah, she's blown up. Ilike that it was just her.

(52:50):
People are complaining that it's just her, but like, when you have that
many number one songs, you canjust be you on stage. I'm afraid
to high still that look terrifying.I'm still annoyed that when Brunoms and Red
Hot Chili Peppers filmed together, theydidn't do a song polled at the other
side because they both have songs coopedthat and they could have. This frustrates

(53:14):
no one but me. It's oneof those things. Anyway, I'm going
getting to know you, Jay,this is wonderful. I like it.
I bought Mallory, my daughter,I Red Hot Chili Peppers song because when
she was in a Nike you wheneverwe want to go visit her. It
felt like every time for the twoweeks when we would go drive to see

(53:35):
her twice a day, Red HotChili Peppers were on on satellite radio,
so it kind of became fun tolike, you know, if she's a
little Red Hot Chili Peppers baby,because the songs are always playing when we
want to go see her. Thoughteveryone should know. I just bought her.

(53:57):
She's gonna be a little rocker.She goes, He's like, what
was it, like what like stonewashjeans or something. I don't know,
but they she's on the hardcore.I can't wait, Teacher Metallica, I'm
trying to, like good segue awayfrom that what we can think of.
By the way, let's talk aboutConnor. But that's that's not good,
so do it. Whenever I gooff topic, Jay, I'm gonna try

(54:19):
to leave breadcrumbs that you can grabon, you know, you can follow
to get us back on track.So in the middle of things, I'll
just say Stee Boushemy and then youcan be like, oh, speaking to
Steve Boushemy, thank you. Iappreciate it. So so speaking to ste
Bushemy. They do sing, theydo sing. We got got the whole
in his hands. I did alittle bit of research and weren't talk about

(54:39):
little bit. It's been covered abunch of times, but the one I
went and listened to today it wasbeen thought by Sisters of Mercy at the
Redding Festival in nineteen ninety one.So I thought, oh, that's gonna
be fantastic. I'll check out onYouTube. It's actually pretty underwhelming. It's
just the Sisters of Mercy like they'replaying They're playing the song like the action
guitars and stuff, but it's justit's like one version of the song that

(55:01):
flows into a little bit of Alwaysof Life. Yeah, the song is
quite at Route one song, isn'tit British national anthem? You can't really
do anything with it. It's likeit's like three notes on repeat. It's
an odd choice for a rock bandto play live at the festival. I

(55:23):
think very really work. It didn'treally work, but there they tried,
so good for them again, doyou think they were trying to say anything?
If this is his rehabilitation, ishe considering religion and God? Is
that coming into his mental state likehe's got his own future in his hands?

(55:45):
Kind of thing like it's his it'shis decisions that will lead to whatever
he does in the future. Idon't know. Maybe I think I think
it's just it's it's funny that he'ssinging it later when the plane crashes,
was the main wait, wouldn't begreat if there was this psychopathic killer who
had the planes going down and singinghe's got the hold in his hands.

(56:07):
Would it'll be hilarious? I thinkthat was the first thought. I thought,
we can read into it whatever welike. I guess it's a lot.
That's what you can do with art. You can change it. Yeah,
and then they decided to work backfrom theyror. Is that kind of
what you're saying? I think,So, what's a song? It'd be
funny for a calm to sing asthey're crashing down that a little child will
also know when they could sing togetherin this abandoned, derelict swimming pool next

(56:28):
to a couple of sleimon tines chestof drawers in its time travel mind Walk
memory, whilst the other guys arepulling a very heavy plane out of the
sat. Well, yeah, let'swork backwards from that. I bet that's
what it was. Jay. Ithink that would just recreated the conversation.
So this, this scene is influence. This is like one of the famous

(56:51):
scenes from Connair. It's less thana minute long. I remember this being
like a really long sequence between Garlandand the girl, but it's it's this
is it like he sits down withher a couple of weeks ago, and
then in a couple of weeks timethere's a broken up and then she waves
goodbye and that's it. This islike Garl and Green and the Go and
it's Richie scene and it is,but it's less than a minute long.

(57:15):
But it probably such a shock tothe system, right, Like remember in
Psycho people thought they saw red withthe blood going down the drain even though
they didn't. So with this one, I think it's such a shock to
the system that you're you feel likeyou're living in it for a lot longer
because you're right, Jay, Iremember this being a lot longer than this,
and I think the script hasn't gotmuch more. And in the script

(57:35):
there's a few more lines about whenthey're talking about coming over for dinner,
she's like, now you have youhave to make Bob talk, say like
what are you having for dinner?And then the gain or Gela with her
character things like, well, we'rehaving burgers and beans, and Bo says,
oh, I love burgers a littlebit more like that. But there's
still not It's like an extra twentyminutes that I want to see. I
want a full scene of these two, haven't. Like, I want this

(57:57):
whole interaction to be in the film. Start to fish work on Fargo?
Yeah? Are those your real teeth? Did you ever eat people? Have
you taken a tooth from every personyou've killed? Is this man Hunter?
Did he know? He didn't takeit to you? Tooth dressing Mode,

(58:20):
Pooling Kingdom? Wait, the toothFairy was the villain in a Man Hunter?
Right? Yes, what's his name? The big guy? The guy
who was in last action? Hereare But he didn't take teeth, did
he? He was a tooth tomNoonan Uh sorry, I just watched that

(58:42):
again. Oh my god, I'vebeen on a Michael Man kick lately.
So tooth Fairy. That's a goodDayne Johnson movie. All right, Jay?
Well, how many cons are inthere? What do we got here?
So it's still I can't remember whatwe were like seventeen Occasionally I'm kind
of not keeping counting. They takeoff again on the ground in this scene,

(59:06):
don't way not Yeah, I thinknot just yet, not just yet,
but there'll be some death soon tryingto find yes, A seventeen eight,
there's eighteen cons they're not all inthis chapter because we don't see that.
Sadly conducts but none are in there. Yeah, eighteen zero sadly but
everyonely. Do you have any morethoughts on this chapter or the film as

(59:28):
a whole. It's a great film, Nicola's case. It's very hot.
I love Steve shemy thank you forgiving me the scene. I feel like
it's I'm very grateful. It's avery very good scene. I imagine there's
a few scenes where just sort oflike some stuff happens, um, whereas
this is like there's a like layershere that you can really peel off if

(59:52):
you wish, or just look atthe surface. Um, so thank you.
I feel like we didn't even actuallytalk about the dolls. The reason
there's like a ten but he keepsand then she's got a very messy head
blonde Barbie. Well, yeah,I think it's it's like one of those

(01:00:15):
you go to like a newsagents inthe corner and you go to like the
toys section and there's like a plasticdoll with big eyes and blonde hair,
but it's absolutely not a Barbie.It's a moud. It's just a doll.
Yeah, yeah, sound doll orsomething, Bobby? Yeah, okay,

(01:00:36):
Well do you want to work outa plug? Where can the listeners
here? You talking about other Barbierelated stuff? Yes, if you head
over to Why This Film Podcast,we're across most social medias and if you
just type that into Google, you'llfind us. We look back on the
movies of your childhood, and withinthat we are working our way through in
a Barbie world where we're doing everysingle Barbie movie that has every listed and

(01:01:00):
there are bloody tons of them.We're all very excited about twenty third as
well. Yeah, hundreds of them, like with all the Distrector DVD.
Yeah. So, the Barbie cinematicuniverse has about three phases. I believe

(01:01:21):
we're halfway through phase two, umand being definitely serious here, lights fully,
there are phases where things shift andchoices are made, and animation style
changes and intentions change, and thequality has just been going up and up
and up. They are getting funnierand gayer every time. I love them

(01:01:45):
to pieces. Um, they aredefinitely worth a watch, and a lot
of them are on Netflix now,So do you check them out and then
come and listen to me and Steventalk about them. Is there one we're
really set in the air, likea plane or anything. It's like a
Barbie. What's the most con airFilmchise? Okay, so the most recent
one was Barbie A Perfect Christmas,which, um, wasn't great, Not

(01:02:10):
gonna lie. The quality did dipthere. However, they opened the film
getting on a plane to New York. They experienced turbulence and then the plane
like breaks down and they have toget off in like Massachusetts and drive and
they end up in like Status Workshopor whatever. But yeah, so they
get on a plane and then andthen the plane stops working. So again

(01:02:34):
I will do Okay, fantastic,thank you, And I was again I
was, I guess on your showat this point to talk about Daylight if
you want to hear me and youtube about disaster movies that I then checked
out the disaster movie that you suggestedin that episode recently started harassing you on
Twitter halfway you're watching it. Yes, you're a quite upset about characters dying.

(01:03:00):
I'm so sick of watching these disastermovies and having all these characters die
on me. What are they playingat? It's always the women. Women.
We'll say that that's why conn Airis better because no women die.
Is they're just not in the film. Yeah they get kind of like threatened
and nearly assaulted. Yeah, wellthey do get assaulted, they nearly get

(01:03:24):
sexually assaulted. Um, but theydon't. Yeah, they're generally okay.
And that's all the cats Mark.Yeah, just the movies on the Flix
podcast and then the Deep Blue Seapodcast. We have a we'll continue our
Deep Blue Scene series of Jurassic WorldFall and Kingdom and Jurassic World Dominion.

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We have episodes of that coming outsoon. Do indeed, Oh, I
have a fun episode with DJ Valentine. Were released. We just talked about
our favorite john Wick moments. Soyou can listen to that and movies on
to Fantastic and he's been a gueston Deeps a few times twenty two and
then Shark in Venice, Ghost andthat thing. Look at that thing.

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I think Emily has the longest episodeon TV. The podcast talking about Shark
in Venice, we talked for along time about that wonderful terrible film.
Hey, she's really smart. Ilove that it's really smart. You know
how many people have recommended Shark inVest since watching It's so good. I
haven't told them it's terrible. Ijust recommend it and then wait for their

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reaction. So it was the Podcastle'sNever There. Now you can find me
once month hosting Lampardy Open the lambCast movie trade based on Jeopardy and my
person's site's life us film dot com. You can follow the podcast at con
AirPod, on sweater and Instagram anduh yeah, that will do it for

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chapter twenty eight. So thank youonce again to our guest Emily Slide.
Thank you for conne chapter twenty eight. I've been Jake Clewitt and marcolf Myer
come back next week or the Bunnygets it Big. Anara