Chapter 29 - Beware the Actor-Boy

Jay and Mark are joined by Kate Hudson (@HudsonKate on Twitter) to discuss the chapter in which John Cusack runs in socks and sandals. In this episode, they also talk about paranormal sports movies, plane-pulling and selective fire damage. Enjoy!

Episode Transcript

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Bunny Down, Bunny down down toBanny back in the box. Hello,

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and welcome to con Air the podcast. I am Mark Action cusa Halfmeyer,
and I am Jay Idiote Cluens.Welcome to you aboard. Can't I have
a podcast for twenty nine? Onthis show, Mark and I fly away
through scene by scene with some wonderfulguests. And this is one chapter twenty
nine. What happens in conne Chattertwenty nine well as the rest of the

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cons pull the plane from the sands, Andino makes a break from it and
flees to the plane waiting for him, but finds most of his men dead.
Larkin calls the incoming back up,who are still some distance away,
so he takes up on himself tostop the fleeing Sandino by removing his planes
tail with a crane, according theplane to crash into a gas stage.
Buddy Cindino emerged from the playing fuselagewith fuel spewing everywhere. Leave the cyrus,
which were eventually being burned alive.Curtsey of a flicked cigarette and Navy

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par Betty escapes explosion diving through awindow under a trunk. Man points him
in the direction I'm a possible firstaid kit. We need a conne expert,
a south promplaining clarer expert, helpus talk about this episode. Who's
joining us today? Oh and wereally have a conner expert. We have
like someone whose legal civic duty madeit mandatory to join this episode, and
it's Kate Hudson. Thank you forjoining us, Thank you for having me.

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And it wasn't Pearl Officer mandated.This was my own personal choice to
be here. But I know yourpearle officer has to call us afterwards to
make sure that you joined us.We'll give you a good reviews. Yeah,
good health or health. Apparently therewas an instance where you said you
were going to be on the LeavingLas Vegas A podcast, but you kind

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of skipped out went to Atlantic City, so we have to make sure that
you were here just for your Pearlofficer. Well, because I heard about
Snake Eyes. Yeah, there's agood boxing match in town, right,
you had to go check it outexactly you guys know, did you wear
a jacket that looks like it's leatherbut isn't leather? Upon further reflection,
because I thought he wore a leatherjacket and snake guys for a long time,

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and it turns out he didn't.I thought it was like a snakeskin
jacket. Am I am? Igetting that wrong. Yeah, it's a
completely different fabric that I looked up. I was kind of stymied by that.
I thought it was some form ofanimal that he was wearing. But
I don't think it is. KnowingNick Cage is probably like an endangered animal
that sense when extinct, and hehunted it. Oh, I'm sure he

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did. Like, come on,this guy collects dinosaur bones. That movie
Primal about him hunting animals was likea true story based on one of his
weekends away s quizzite. I lovedit. Oh god, I loved him.
He's the reason that I know I'llbuy the jaguar was Yeah, thank
you, Nick Cage. No nojaguars in the world. You don't have

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that pesky problem anymore. I wonderif Hard Target is based on his exploits
in the eighties. That's such agood movie too. Listen that movie,
Like Jean Claud van Dam pulls histrench go back and instead of showing a
gun, it's his leg like heIt's like, oh, it's beautiful.

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There's an overlap too right, Likehis thighs are deadly weapons. Conair,
his like hands are deadly weapons.Oh my gosh, Cage is a beast
in this is he not? Wow, Cusack's the bigger beast. He is
action Cusack. So this clip we'retalking about today, watching Cusack run and
jump really bums me out, Likewe need a cape wa I wish we

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had a not a capawara. Yeah, a cappawara Parkour movie starring John Cusack
in early nineties. Imagine that,well and think about this for a second.
He's wearing socks with sandals, Likehave you ever tried to run in
those? He's running a plane.He's wearing socks in that. I was
out running out hurdling a plane.Yeah, what if he had nikes on?

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Would he be faster than the plane? Hell? Yeah? I would
like those have no arch support.Those horrible like birken stocks. I think.
I think if he was wearing anyother kind of shoes, he'd be
two way down with the guilt ofhaving the reflectible shoe with it. I
remember when this movie came out becausethis was like my peak, like Cusack
fan girls, so I like Ieven like remember tearing out his quote about

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specifically being the guy who insisted hisaction star where socks with sandals because he
thought it was subversive. So likethat was his call there. I wish,
I wish he would have had agross playing blank Hallway fight with his
Burkes in this movie. That wouldbe amazing. Well he does, I

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mean he does sort of get aHallway moment towards the end spoiler alert guys,
like when he's like doing that motorcyclechase, like obviously that's all about
Cage with his one arms, likelet's hang off the fire truck. But
like Cusack, it's like a fewlike badass Martin Q Blank moves in there.
Quick question in ninety seven went LloydDobbler and the dude from leaving Las

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Vegas got on motorcycles together to chaseJohn Malkovich and Ving Rheims on a fire
truck and Emcy Gainey, how longdid it take for people to get you
off of the floor. Well,you have to understand, I didn't get
to see this in the theater becauseI was too young. Ah See,
I'm forty, So I saw itwhen I was fifteen in the theater and
I just melted. I went whatjust happened? It was? I think

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I got to see it better.I was a slumber party movie for me,
So I got to see it inninety seven with my girlfriends like at
a slumber party, and we werelike, Holy f this is awesome.
Do you remember the fire truck chasewhen you think about this movie or does
it come to you afterwards like whenyou see it? Oh? Do you
know? Like that's a really goodquestion. What I really recall is like,

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honestly, the scene we're talking aboutis Cage running through the blowing up
diner. Yeah, that's like thescene for like as a kid, like
this is ridiculous and awesome. Hedoesn't get burnt at all. No,
And like why like dive head firstup through like six feet like through the
glass as opposed to taking the twoseconds it would take to open the door

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and get out, like guaranteed getout, as opposed to like you have
to like get the physics just rightto like jump up through that window.
I mean, if you can,if you know that you can do it.
Yeah, Like if I had theconfidence like, yeah I can,
I can make it through that window, I'm gonna give it a shot.

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It's now really the time, likewhen it's burning though, to like take
that chance or do you want asure thing? Well, I mean,
but he knows the other side ofthat door, he's gonna roll under that
truck. So if he if hestops opens the door, he then gonna
like a kind of a crowd rollunder it. Where is this way?
He knows he's got that perfect parabolaand down and under he's got you know

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that truck? Was that whoa parabola? Hire with the mathstos today? He
does a lot of legwork in thismovie. Though his kicks are on point,
so his legs are super spry,So I don't I guess, Yeah,
Cameron pose quite a capable man.I mean, well obviously, but

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it's just it's just a ridiculous.The whole movie exists in like the cocaine
adult world of the nineties, andthat's why it's truly spectacular. Yeah that
makes sense. Yeah, you gotJohn Cusack out running a plane, Nicholas
Cage diving through a window on thetop of a door, and John Malkovich
one linering this is definitely a Thisis the cocaine adult clip of the forty

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chapters recovering for sure. And let'sall not forget the fact that this is
the first movie I think without DonSimpson, who I'm pretty sure died of
a cocaine overdose, Like didn't heautoerotic existiate? Who? I never looked
that up. Yeah, Don Simpsonis from my hometown, so like,

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I know it was drugs. Ithink it might be more than just like
your run of the milled like drugoverdose. Though, Yeah, because I
did read. I read about hisparties on Days of Thunder when he was
on Days of Thunder. I heardthe parties you threw were epic. Yeah,
he was really into drugs. Nothowood? Yeah do you think even

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Hollywood people though, we're kind oflike, hey, now this is a
slowdown, Don. I just pulledup this Ricky Wicky really quickly. His
monthly drug expense was sixty thousand dollarsa month. That was like Johns White
expenses. That's ridiculous. Yeah.Yeah, Like he's from Juno, Alaska,
like a last you know, Alaskahas like I'm from Alaska, so

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Alaska has a weird connection to Connair, right, Like this is the first
movie Bruckheimer movie without Don Simpson.And then you know the main plane eventually
crashes in Alaska and is like killsthree people. Yes, yeah yeah,
in real life the ru yeah yeahyeah. There's some odd connections from Connair
to uh and then to get likereally personal. The last Blockbuster that eventually

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closed was in Alaska, and thisis where I used to rent Connair back
from the nineties. Guys. Ohwow, yeah, yeahbuster, the one
on Debar Road in Anchorage, Alaska. That was my blockbuster. That was
a good run though. That wasa good run for that blockbuster. So
at the time of Don Simpson's death, there were twenty one different broads in

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his system. Like and again,we don't want to go too far off
the track, but you have toimagine there is a reason why this production
duo was attracted to Connair, likelike recognized, like right, I was
sorry. He had been seeing fifteendifferent doctors to get large quantities of prescription

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drugs, and the police found twothousand, two hundred prescription pills lined up
in alphabetical order in his bedroom cupboard. I can see how that happens because
I worked in the industry for awhile and there are people who are just
up and down all day and theykind of need their uppers, and then
they need their downers, and theyneed their uppers. I think they become

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ultimately reliant on that. So ifyou do that for two decades, you
have a variety of uppers and downsYeah, yeah, okay, alphabetized joy.
He had twenty one jerk and hewas trying to get all twenty six
letters. Was that his goal?But think about Jerry Bruckheimer. Put yourself

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in Jerry Bruckheimer's position. This isyour first movie without done Simpson. There
has to be something that calls youto this movie that reminds you a little
bit of your dearly departed production partner. Let's see what would that be then?
I mean they're dealing with the cartels. I just think it's the frenetic.
Nothing makes a lot of sense unlessdrugs are involved. A good point.

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Hey, do you think that GarlandGreened is seeing this girl? Do
you think that girl's actually there oris it a figment of his imagination?
No, she's definitely there, Rememberbecause when the plane takes off, we
see her wave. But that couldbe in his head to wait did he
see her wave? Oh? Sothen she has to be good. I

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don't think that's perfect. Wait,but wait, so then they're just showing
that if he's not seen it.Yeah, I think he's he's envisioning that
well. So I think I thinkin this chapter we have further proof that
she isn't there because when he hasan explosion, waked up to Garland Green
and he looks at the little girlstill with the kind of off kilter angle,

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and she giggles at this giant explosionof the distance. I think,
I think that's an unusual reaction.No, kids are sociopaths. Have you
ever seen it? Like a fiveyear old just like see something like screwed
up happened, and they think it'sfunny because they have no like sense of
like death or permanence. WHOA yeah, fair, Yeah. I disagree with

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this take because he is on theplane taking off and we clearly see the
child like wave to him and hehas the doll because I guess if he
was looking out the window and sawthat, then we could still think that
that was in his imagine. He'slooking straight ahead and then he turns the
Cameron Poe and goes define irony,which was my Corvorite line in the movie

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is out yet, but my theorythe little girl is going to flashback to
to Gallen's past. This is thefirst girl he killed, and he's he's
like walked into the trailer park ofhis youth. And her being alive when
they take off is he has nowreformed and he is now a good guy

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and he's he's so he's imagining thatshe's still alive and he didn't kill her
back on the ground. So Istill think that that is she is not
there in his mind, she survived, which makes it okay that he's viving
free at the end, I thinkthat you are trying to apply imply morality
on a movie with literally no moralcompass. I mean we're talking about it

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for forty straight weeks. I rememberhe's sitting in the aisle, so like,
really, how could he be lookingdown at the little girl anyways,
because he's imagining it. It's inhis mind. Okay, this is unproven.
It's just fun to talk about.I just I again, if you
look at this through the lens ofeverybody was cooked out, it was the

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nineties, and they're just looking atlike looking to blow to that up.
I don't think you need to addany more to it. Sometimes, you
know, an explosion is just anexplosion and for it doesn't need to come
into it or young at all.Sometimes the person being burned alive is called
Sindino. Oh, I think thatthey named him Cyrus the virus, just

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to get to that one line.By the way, Yeah, and well
they called him Cindinos. It's justgoing to burn alive. Let's call him
cinder. Let's just go with that. And yeah, so's if the cionara
Cionara. It's a beautiful like Cyrusthe virus. Christon is a beautiful name.
But that si Anara is a highpoint of the film easily. And

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I love this mc gainey standing therewith a shirt unbuttoned with a cigarette just
chilling in his mouth. He wasright next to Cyrus. It's disgusted that
Cyrus is taking a cigarette. Iwas not done with that. Did you
see his face when he took thecigarette out of his mouth? If you

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and it wasn't this plane like deckyou but you'll internalize its race. It's
good. I need to make agift out of that scene because he mc
gainey really is not or Jeff whatever. Mc gainey is not happy. It
makes me very happy. Yeah,that's a good point if you've been in
jail for many years and you don'thave access to cigarettes, or you're terrible

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at poker and you keep losing them, and you finally have a nice you
know cigarette. Yeah, got itthis way too, Like you thought you
were like almost done. Now you'redoing like fucking manual labor. And then
you just realize the plane that youwere supposed to be on is a two
seater and this little asshole has soldyou out. Now you're just fucked all

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around. And the last thing youwere enjoying is some gright palm with his
dirty hands has taken it out ofyour mouth and now it's ruined. Wow.
And you know, Cyrus still isn'tsweating, which kind of bothers me.
I just want to that out theredoing anything work. He's just calling
the shots. And how you didyou notice how Diamond Dog is looking at

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him like you piece of bi Yeah? And you know what, I think
that's what Diamond Dog realizes that Cyruswas gonna sort of like he wasn't going
to take them all. Do youdo you think Cyrus was just going to
go with them and leave all thecons behind. And Diamond Dogs realizing this
now I think I think I thinkI think Cyrus got double cross too.

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I don't think the plan was justfor the two of them to go.
I think it was always the bigplane, because why why distract everybody to
pull the plane out then? Butonce if they had a bigger plane,
once they land in South America,I think we've said before, at that
point, Cyrus would just said everyone, Okay, you're on your own now.
Yeah, the plan I detail earlier, that's that's for me, and

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like the four guys who hope tothe plan the rest of you by Yeah,
I think that the express the thingRam's expression of turning away from the
phone in disgust is he's having arecollection to that connlation he had with Poem
about like but I don't know it'sabout. It was about Centena Hustin about

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not trusting. Yeah, the colationwith with with Dog earlier. I always
every time I've seen the film before, I always thought he was saying,
Cyrus isn't gonna need you after this. He always said Centino, is he
not just something controled anyway? I'mright forget That's what Cameron Poet said right
when when he said you can't trustthis guy because they've killed people in the
past. Yeah, but he wassome about Centino, not Cyrus, and

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I think in the past I've alwaysthought he was some about Cyrus. Got
it. But yeah, Dog ishaving realizations about the guy he's working with
that may not be on the boardand that he wasn't consulted. Right,
so up until then that they werekind of working in tandem. And then
Cyrus just decided to kill Obviously hewould have been on board, but he
just did this without consulting him,and so it was clearly Cyrus is in

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charge, he's second in command,and he's starting to see power dynamic that
he doesn't like. Oh that's agood point, because he does, you
know, like just based on hisego and the way he talks, like
I kill more people than cancer.And then he's realizing that Sandino was gonna
double cross him. That's got asting. Yeah, And he's like the

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way he talks to Poe like fiveten minutes before, like saying, I
can play the house and word untilI get what I want. And then
he's starting to realize, actually,that's not gonna work. Virus is just
gonna do whatever the key wants.And I'm I'm just along for the ride.
I have no control here. Ithink he's starting to see that.
And random question, what's Poe doingin this diner for so long? He's

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made a sandwich that he's just lettingCsack be q Sack. Got it.
He's just like, I'm gonna letq Sack steal this scene while I'm in
a diner. It's just Cusack.Time to shine the po out of the
way. Do you think they saidthat on set too? Right? So
Poe, you're gonna run out ofhere and you're gonna drop it on this
plane. And he's like no,like Qusak hab it, Oh for sure.

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So I like I read somewhere thatTrejo was like everybody was a little
scared of Cusack, Like everybody wasworking out all the time in Cusack was
by far the hardest dude on set. Nobody wanted to screw with him.
Oh that makes me so happy.Well, he's a black belt in karate.
He trained with like, oh,man, who's the guy he trained
with? Ohnyn the Jet? Hedoes Benny the Jet, Yeah, the

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guy he kills and gross Pine Blankis his kickboxing since I I mean he's
so he's the real fighter out ofall these people. Yeah, like Treho
has like spent like hell, likeTreo did hard time in prison. He's
like Cusack's the guy you don't screwhim. I mean, Cusack's a big
dude. He seems to have longlegs, and he knows karate like you're

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gonna catch a head kick, andhe seems kind of cold. I feel
like like he just would rush offfit ending you this day. It wants
seem to get to him. Ithink. Listen, he's from Chicago,
like people from a winter client menare just a little bit more psycho than
people who live in like California.Oh does that explain Philly? Yes,

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okay, I've had to work inPhilly a few times. Sorry if you
live in Philadelphia, but geez,you know what you did. Yeah,
y I love anybody who knows howto face down a cold, dark winter.
I'm from Alaska, though, solike I know my people, I
grew up in Wisconsin tall seven,but then I moved to Florida, So
now I now I'm in Georgia,so I know absolutely nothing about winters.

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We lost Yeah, I've lost it. I really have. It's bad.
All I can say is when adude who's done hard time like triho it
like did hard time? Like Ithink like ten something years says beware of
the actor boy, Like you listento the guy who did hard time?
Yeah exactly. He said something abouthis eyes. He said his eyes were

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dead. Yeah. Like all Ican say is is I've not heard great
things about Cusack as a person,and that tracks with what he's said about
him as far as being a fighter. I mean, he doesn't like Conne
how much? Feel like this guyanyway? Rights does cuse that have expressive

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eyes? No, that's is hemostly like mouth knows Like what because he's
an eyebrow actor. Oh I needto watch say anything again? Now he
does the eyebrow action is pretty good. I think he's an eyebrow actor.
And like, yeah, he hasto be an eyebrow actor because he's not
an eye actor. He's not amouth actor. Wow. When when he's

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on the phone, when he's onthe phone to the backup, nothing on
his face moves, So he hasto be an it like disagree with me
here, I've never thought about it. I've always loved him though, so
like, oh yeah, he's myboyfriend, Like, well you know,
growing up watching Say Anything, soso like I feel like every hero in

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romantic comedies and everything, there's veryfew three dimensional human beings. And so
when I saw Say Anything, andI grew up like wrestling, boxing,
like I loved like the martial arts, but I was also like super emo.
So when I saw Say Anything,and I saw this guy who was
kind of just nice but he wasn'tlike a loser, but he wasn't a
popular guy, but he could alsobeat you up, Like it was really

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sort of I don't know, notgroundbreaking for me, but it's probably one
of the first movie characters where Iwent, I relate to this guy,
like I'm not this dude, buthe's not one or the other. And
so I think Quack was probably thefirst person that made me realize that you
can have those types of characters inmovies, if that makes sense, just
from saying Anything. Oh yeah,no. So his sister Joan has her

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in Chicago, and she's there sometimesand like I'll go in just to see
her because I love her and she'snice. That you shouldn't hear, guys,
Joan, she's in movies too,right, She was in Gross playing
blind Yeah and say anything's there's Joan, who's the other cues act that acts
as well, all of them andBill cusack Is is a paramedic. Incunnet.

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Oh, it's a family thing.All the Cues acts like because I
think their dad or their dad isan actor, and they I think they
had like an acting school or likethe Pivens had an acting school. Like
they're deep in the Chicago acting scene. I mean the ground leans on a
comedy out there. I guess it'sI mean it's a huge city, so
it's a good place to be ifyou don't have acting schools. Yeah,

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and you're right, Ja. Hedoes not move his face when he talks
on the phone. He does alittle bit. He does a little bit
of a squint. It's it's notreally fair. And so it's a short
scene that he's just on the phone. When he's being blasted by the jet
engine, he's a bit more expressiveas you imagine. There's more. There's
more eyebrow work going on there.Yes, I think he's an eyebrow actor.
I'm looking at like stills and it'sthe eyebrows that are like the expressive

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part. And that's two ninety sevenmovies that Cage was in where jet engines
blow people into things. Oh,ninety seven was the best year for movies.
I will put my stake in theground. Screw you thirty nine.
It's ninety seven. Oh wow,Yeah, I guess I'm ninety nine because
Deep Blue Sea's my favorite movie andninety four is good, but ninety seven

(24:21):
is really deep. And it's alsoreally deep with movies that just feature terrible
trips and that's kind of why Ilove it. Yeah, like a vent
Horizon, the most terrible trip,like a Vent Horizons horrible breakdown, conn
Air, a Fifth Element that's abad trip. Oh yeah, and Anaconda
they're on a boat. That's aterrible trip. Roman Michelle's high school reunion.

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That's a road trip. I don'tremember anything about that. Oh my
best friend's wedding and she travels andlike almost rex a wedding. Yeah.
Oh, Air Force one, there'sanother bad trip. I think Spice Road
came out in ninety seven in theUK, and that's like there's some crappy
trips there. Yeah. Alien Resurrectionthat's just terrible. Oh The Edge is

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terrible. Yeah, the Edge theycrashed and have to fight a bear.
As good as it gets. Thisis the road trip that's kind of unbearable
films to people evolved on it.I like the film, but it sits
stay on fun. Life is beautiful, A fatty terrible trip to prison.
Yeah, oh god, terrible movie, but no, it's great. Ninety

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seven is the best year, likeyou could just if you, I'm telling
you. And it's entertaining. Likethere's like some movies are good, but
they're like eating your vegetables. Ninetyseven is across the board, crowd pleasing,
excellent. All right, So ifyou had to do a film festival
and you had to showcase all ofwhat ninety seven is with five movies,

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which five movies would you pick?Oh? Obviously gross Print Playing, Romeo,
Michelle's high school Reunion, Titanic Connair, And then let's do like one
of those good ones, right,like like spawn no spawns like that,
Like what's one of those like whatwas like nominated from Best pit Her nineties

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Gasica and Jude Laws really hot inthat good Hunting. Oh yeah, that's
like because that's a really good scifi ninety seven. Yeah, that's a
classic. That's that's had a longlife. It's excellent. I'm surprised you
didn't pick The Sixth Man. Ohis that the Schwarzenegger one. Oh no,

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that's the one where a ghost comesback to life and helps Marlon Wayne's
win the College NC double A championship. Yeah, nineties nineties movies bother me
because I feel like angels in theoutfield in the Sixth Man, ghosts help
losing teams win everything, but theywon't help them in the final. It's

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like, listen, we wouldn't haveeven been here if it weren't for you.
Like, just help us win thefinal too. I kind of hate
I hate all these ghosts cop outat the end, But that's so you
can learn that the magic was inwith you all the time, but it
helped them cheat to that point.It'll be fine if if you go Sony
pretended to help and the real hewas like you know, the Michael Jordan's

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Special source from space yet, whichis what if they hadn't really pretended,
if they hadn't really helped, butjust pretend but actually helping. Yes,
that's kind of terrible. It's abad lesson to learn. I have an
issue with that. It's a weirdissue to have. But just let cheat
all the way. At least that'sa lesson i'd want to learn. This

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is probably why the Boomers insists weresuch a weak generation. But really they're
the ones who screwed us up.There's a lesson in there somewhere. It's
just cheat all the time. It'sfine, that's what they did. Yeah,
Like if you think about it,right, that they cost another team
a spot in the playoffs or thechamp in ships. So you know how

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much money that team lost with attendance. Maybe people didn't work, like,
people didn't get to enjoy the games. Well, maybe they had a ghost.
Yeah that's true, So that's notthem. I feel like every sports
team now should maybe adopt an orphanand maybe see if they can get the
angels on their side. If thatwork, it's gonna be like a dog

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instead or yeah, any kind ofthat would partically every rabid fan thinks they're
doing by refusing to wash their clothesor like only eating red food on game
day. Yeah, I mean it'sterrible. Which one is sport to sport?

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You're not a sport, No,don't understand. I just tried to
write an episode about these first styletheory, about these naggin caps and I
had to like figure out, Sohave you heard of noggins? No,
they're gigantic hats that just came outa couple of years ago. Say they
look like a regular baseball cap,flapping cap, but they're about twelve times
a size. And then it ledme into researching how cheeseheads happened and the

(29:14):
psychology of sports fans and why theywear large things on their heads during sporting
events. And it was quite illuminating. So I could share that with everyone
when it comes out, I'll justsay that I go to sporting events so
I can drink outside. Yes,exactly why. That's why I go.
I know where all the good drinksare at the Atlanta Braves baseball stadium and

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at the soccer stadium when I go, like, I know where they have
the good I pas like my wifeand I can scout them out. So
yeah, I guess we're the sameway. You don't drink outside in just
any place? Do you have to? Is that allowed in America? Oh
yeah, maybe like a downtown area, but yeah, there's not too many
open containers. No, Like it'sa rite of passage in England to go

(29:56):
get trashed off. What's that horrible, like cider you buy in the leader
and then go get trashed in thepark at fourteen I mean strong, Yeah,
that's it. Yeah, we don'tdo that here fortunately. You know
what's interesting, I didn't. Iwent with my dad to get a beer
at a baseball game. So like, I feel like drinks and sports are

(30:18):
so intertwined. You can't even drink. When I lived in England, you
couldn't even drink at the major footballmatches because people are just getting too wasted
and then just fighting college football games. Yeah, going to a sport event
to have a drink, I feellike it is a dangerous mix in this
country. So yeah, that's that'sall would do. That's that's truly nice.

(30:41):
Five percent of the reason why inAmerica you would go to a sporting
event is to drink outside. Ihad a good system when I was going
to Florida State. I would getthese cheap mini bottles of liquor, and
I had gigantic cargo shorts that youcould get from like my brother. My
brother was a manager at Abercrombie,so I would get cheap cargo pants and
I would just find things in theremonths later. But they were gigantic cargo
shorts, and I would walk upto the gate and when they were expecting

(31:03):
all your pockets and I'm like,oh crap, I forgot And I would
pull out like three cheat the threeof the models and they're like, oh
thanks, and then they would letme through. But I had about fourteen
others in my other pocket. Solike that worked for me most of the
time. So that was my Thatwas my scheme to get Booze in the
football games at Florida State. Speakingof it was a lika. I did
a headcount of the colons that areat the end, and we're missing one,

(31:29):
but there are there's only eleven thatshould be twelve. A Conrad is
missing because he's off getting the caroff Booze or he's or he's like putting
it on the plane because yeah,he's not in this this whole chapter.
He's not helping dig the plane out. He's not at the explosion. Everyone
else is there. All of theguards, Like, there's three guards left,

(31:52):
they're both they're all putting the planeout. Two are being whipped by
by Diamond Dog. Every one hasbeen trusted to pull on his own.
Yeah, so he's on the tractor, right, Conrad's not on the tractor.
A guard isn't one of the oneof the cons. There's a guard
is next to Sindino before he runsaway. It's a guy in the white

(32:13):
T shirt. But last on thelast chapter, I expressed some doubt that
they'd be able to pull this planeout of the sand. And I've spent
a bit more time thinking about itand working things out. So if you'll
allow me, the plane weighs sixteenthousand, forty two kilograms, which is
thirty five thousand, three hundred andsix six pounds. That's unloaded. We've

(32:34):
got there's like a there's a baby, oh and a bishop, and who
knows what else on there, anda dead litty bedlam and guns and whatnot.
So it's at least that way.But I looked up and a guy
called Kevin Fast, Reverend Kevin Firstgive him his full title, who in
two thousand and nine pulled a CCone seven seven Globe Master three on his

(32:57):
own. That plane weighs one hundredand sixteen thousand, three hundred pounds at
eleven times the unrelated weight the jailbird, and he pulled that on his
own. Granted that was on flatshuncrete, and this is in sand.
I'm gonna say if one extremely welltrained guy who in a little interview said

(33:20):
his hobbies include pulling his truck uphills a couple of times a week,
it's abs then I think that theseinitially thirteen down to twelve onces ada leaves
very determined men an attractor could potentiallypull this plane out of the sand.
So I'm gonna go back on itand say it's possible. But they wanted

(33:42):
to though. They were doing thathalf ask because they really thought there was
another plane and they just thought thiswas busy work. Oh yeah, but
I feel like you have the threatof rames with a whip there is maybe
spurring them on. Oh and theyalso said that the cops are coming,
so they know that even the otherone doesn't show up, they got to
get that one out to escape becausethey got ten minutes max to leave.

(34:06):
I think now after this they'll actuallytry harder. I think they didn't really
like want to do it. No, yeah, I guess in the beginning.
Right the next time we see theplane it's out and wheeling around.
So yeah, you're right, theydid. They tried harder. They are
all men who went to prison.They have a problem with authority. And

(34:28):
that's what I'm amazed. They workso well together that they have some semblance
of teamwork. Again, you gotthing rains with a whip. Yeah,
that's that's motivation. Fear right,then it's naked freaks and dirty drinks or
whatever the breakaw how fast this Cindinogoing for no one to notice him flee.

(34:51):
I love his run. It's sodetermined. It's a terminator to run.
Yeah, the one guy look athim, No, no one looks,
no one sees him because like Iwas, like wet cendino and no
one knows he's sneaky then, Imean he's pull on to tarro from mister
Deed's just getting out of there sneakily. You know we haven't pointed out is

(35:13):
that Cusack ran after getting blasted inthe chest with a bunch of jet like
fire enough to burn his shirt.It's not himself, I mean it's a
good shirt. Yeah, it's chestbun Wait wait so wait wait, so
he gets no burns, but hisshirt got singed. Yeah, but he's

(35:34):
he's behind like he's behind like atar pool in which goes over his face.
So it's very fortunate. Wow.And then Cameron Poe doesn't get any
fire damage. But you know,fire works differently in movies, So this
is this is a world where firejust I don't know, this is just

(35:54):
not Does that make sense? Likein this world, fire doesn't burn people
and glass doesn't cut when you jumpthrough a glass. Fire just burned some
people, but they have to benamed after five. Yeah, it has
to completely engulf them for several seconds. Yes, Wow, you can.

(36:16):
I love in movies how you canstay ahead of fire. It's one of
my favorite things. I feel likea plane you can have run five.
That's taught people very unbelievable lessons inthe real world. Well, what if
this entire movie to just pay youback off the concept that the girl is
all in Garland's head. What ifthe entire movie is a fever dream of

(36:37):
a gambler. It's like lucky,like like desperation prayer, It's like Jacob.
Yeah, but if this is alltaking place at the craps table like
Steve Bushemi's prayer for luck. Wow, But is he still girling green?
Is he still like an escape orJemmy? This is this is two years

(37:02):
before being John Malkovich. This isthe preak. This is the prequel to
Beat John Malkovich. Yes, likea degenerate gambler. Yeah, oh,
I could see Brushy playing a gooddegenerate gambler. Why not. I'm surprised
he hasn't played one already. Hecould have been in the Cooler. Yeah.

(37:27):
Are we sure he hasn't. He'sbeen in like a million movies.
I'm scanning now. I feel likeDonnie would be a bad gambler. No,
he's too chill Fargo. No,Armageddon, Armageddon doesn't Doesn't he want
to go gamble in Armageddon? Yeah? No, there's someone else who's the
gamble, just scambling on Armageddon.Here's just the gambler. So like his

(37:49):
space dementia. Yeah, this ismy my favorite line of all film.
Is what you've been going? He'sgot space dementia. That's all you need
in a Michael Bay film, Justnot a YadA and then just go forward.
I'm this is now my new Conneirtheory. This is all taking place
at the craps table with Steve Bushemy. Yeah, stem not Garling Green.

(38:12):
And this is right before he rollsthe dice. Is he even like?
Is he drunk. Has he beenbreathing the like casino oxygen for too long?
Like? What's going on? Ishe sleep deprived? I think that
this is his entire backstory to justifyhis gambling addiction. That it's not him.
He is a desperate man who isbeing pursued by law enforcements, so

(38:32):
it justifies his degenerate behavior. Wow, okay, it's it's chicken them again.
Who's the gambling table? Sorry?I knew it was one of them.
A lot happens in this chapter.I'm still want to know why Cage
is in the diner for that longbecause I know there's a there's a sandwich
on the coump side. I thinkhe stopped to make a sandwich. No,

(38:57):
he's definitely looking for a first aidkit. Oh oh that's what it
is. Crap, that's too logical. Really, I like that he wanted
to give Cuzak a chance that foraction instead that one seems funnier. Well,
I mean it can be both.I don't think Poe is a particularly
like adept patient person, so he'sprobably tearing the diner apart. I guarantee

(39:17):
there probably was a first aid kitwith a syringe in there. Okay,
okay, don't do drugs. Hedidn't make the sandwich, but he found
it and he's like trying to he'strying to like keep looking, but he's
started buy this. He hasn't hadcobs in eight years, and he's just
want to have the sandwich. It'sjust that the liberation is kept taking song,

(39:42):
which was probably the old guys.Yeah, so at what point did
did Dab's gray going to hide underthe truck as soon as the plane landed
or when the other plane landed andpeople started getting murdered in the tower.
Yeah, yeah, he really hasto pee. That's the time we just
stale. I mean, yeah,he because they bet they went. They

(40:06):
got up there and with enough timeto go kill the person on the tower.
So yeah, probably a few hours. I would say maybe an hour,
hour and a half. I don'tthink it's been that long because I
don't think drug dealers just like hangout, you know what I mean.
Yeah, the blood was still wetin the towel. Okay, okay,
good, but I do like inthe diner, there's there's four onions in

(40:28):
a bag behind cape, so there'sthere's more onions. We had the ones
in the in the they kit withthe chicken feet, and there's more in
the dina. There have so manyonions in this place. Oh since wait,
since you're the connear authority, Kate, why are there chicken feet and
onions in that tin? I meanthere has to be a Santa Rea thing,
right, because the chicken feet arefresh. Yeah. I don't think

(40:52):
he's I don't think they're making stew. I've thought about this. It's out
in the desert. Why else didyou put chicken feet? There has to
be a Santaria thing. I usedto live in a neighborhood in Washington,
DC where somebody practiced that and theywould leave like chicken like stuff around.
So who So you think someone's justpracticing that and they're just they got killed

(41:15):
I mean or they didn't and they'repart of like the shared mass hallucination.
Yeah, that's true. This thinggoes deep, I mean genuinely. When
it comes to Connor, my answeris usually cocaine. Cocaine, like if
it's the eighties or the nineties,and like somebody was cooked out and thought
that was funny, a sad vision, So who shouldn't to have had it

(41:39):
his craps table like visually, thisguy who he's a hero, comes out
of it, comes out of thearmy, goes home to his wife.
Kill's a guy. Let's get sentback to prison for eight year? Is
this isn't a happy story? He'slamenting on it at that table. He's
put a lot of effort, like, oh, he's never seen his kid
for eight years. Yeah, butgamblers usually aren't happy, go lucky people

(42:01):
you've seen like whenever I've whenever I'vebeen in Vegas, I've become a different
human. So I think you changethere. It doesn't matter where you are
gambling. But yeah, I couldsee somebody really getting dragged into it.
Yeah, like creating, he's somebodyelse, Like remember Steve BUSHEMMI was a

(42:22):
firefighter in New York in Vegas.He's a degenerate gambler. Who would be
a better degenerate gambler Ben Mendelssohn inMississippi Grind or Steve Bushemy in your movie
Always Steve Bushemmy got it. Ilove him, He's just the best.

(42:45):
Hello him and Sandler. I likehis work. I don't care. I
love him in Sandler movies and Jayand I covered Airheads, Like I love
that version of I think there's nomovie that Steve Bushemmy said. I'm like,
you know, this can use lessbusche Emmy. That's true. He's
always great, he's loves Yeah,I kind of want to see if there

(43:07):
is a movie where I wanted lessbushemy because I've never thought that exactly are
you looking right now? I'm scrollingbecause when he's in so like the lesser
sound of films, He's like,more Bushemmy would probably help this. Yeah,
like Billy Madison and those films.When he talks classes about the list.

(43:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's the ghostWorld. I want more of them.
Death of Stalin, I want moreof them. That's hell. Yes,
now Island, there's about there's justabout enough of him. I would
like more. I always think he'sin the autumn more than he is,

(43:51):
and then he's then he's not acertain point. I'm telling you, like
Connor, I take more of him. Yeah, we suffered from the lack
of Shemmy in the first like twentyfive minutes. He does add a a
much different element, like kind ofhe lowers the testosterone a little bit whenever
his scenes are around, and itis kind of a nice and like that

(44:14):
scene with the girl in the poolis just so off putting, especially when
I watched that when I was fifteen. Yeah, he adds a dangerous element
to this movie as opposed to thekind of Viking vibe like the Daniel the
twenty three vibe. So yeah,he does definitely make it a different movie.
And I think I think Cuzac musthave loved just kind of like oh

(44:34):
Garland, like just dealing with himin this movie. Like this is another
thing. We keep talking about this, and Jay started to bring this up
again. But this is a moviewith Malkovich, Ving Raimes, Deebuschemy,
John Cusack, Nicolas Cage, Likethere's so many cole Meeny, there's so
many actors, like good actors,good character actors in this in this wild

(44:58):
well, I guess it's a Bruckhammert it's a phenomena's cost so he set
up it's but it's like full ofaccomplished people. Well you can tell that's
why Cusack did it. Like Cusackback then would only do one of these
like popcorn movies if he liked thecast m And you see this cast,
I mean you see Cameron like NicolasCage headline in it, who had probably

(45:21):
been one of the most interesting actorssince the early eighties. And then John
Malkovich like that's and then you know, like Ving Rames was was flying at
the time. Yeah, and Cusackdid his come back because don't forget Cusack
disappeared in the early nineties, Likehe only started to come back in ninety
six with City Hall. In ninetyseven was a big year with like gross

(45:43):
point plank like this, and thenhe did Midnight in the Garden of Good
and Evil, which was supposed tobe his like big prestige movie with Clint
Eastwood, and he had the highFidel had high Fidelity. That was ninety
nine. But yeah, his earlywhat is because his eighties run he was
very proposed, like kind of whatone crazy summer and he kind of had
to grow out of that for afew years, do you think, Yeah,

(46:05):
well he said that like he likeso if you look at him,
he tried to transition to adult movies, like with ninety two True Colors.
He did ninety three Money for Nothing, Like ninety four he did like a
couple of throwaway parts, but likeninety five, I don't think he really
did anything. Ninety six he didCity Hall with Pacino and that was kind
of like it right, And he'stalked about like how he sort of like

(46:28):
went away. I think like contemporaneouslyhe was talking about like how like he
got depressed and this was like hisbig comeback. He's like, I'm ready
to do movies again. And solike he did a huge blitz in ninety
seven, like Growth point blank waslike the movie that came out all and
then this came out in June,and then there was a big run up
to Midnight in the Garden of Goodand Evil as well. Like ninety seven

(46:51):
was q Sack year. What's yourfavorite Cusack suit? Because he does a
lot of suit acting in movies.Do you have your favorite suit that he's
worn in a movie? Gross PlaneBlank, the the Reunion suit. I
love that, isn't it great?Oh? He's so Like ninety seven was
his year because he did four movies. Because don't forget he did Anastasia too

(47:12):
and the November he a Mini Driverhad she she's fifty percent of that movie
too, like her chemistry, Likeher chemistry is so good. And then
he tossed an achroid who's not doinga bit and just kind of scary.
Yeah, a non bidding n acroid. It's it's a great movie. I
Gross point like Connie is my favoritemovie, but I think gross point Blank

(47:37):
is the best John Q. Sackmovie because Connor really is an ensemble.
But Gross point Blank is Cusack andDriver for sure. And you actually wanted
to be there. He did becausehe co wrote it, like they took
the script and then he and hisbuddies punched it up like that was them,
Like I think they produced it.Like all of his siblings were in
that, like Joane like and withinit. I think Susie and Bill were

(47:59):
in it too, like it wasa whole family affair. So you know
what happened with High Fidelity in ScottRosenberg? Right, No remind me?
So Rosenberg wrote the first draft ofHigh Fidelity, and then Cuzak and his
team went in and completely rewrote it, and then they went in to get
like w GA arbitration to see whogets the credit, and Rosenberg's like,

(48:21):
listen, y'all, this isn't reallymy script anymore. But this has happened
to me where I got my nametaken off a script, So I'm keeping
my name on this. And sothat's why when you see Scott Rosenberg on
High Fidelity. It's because he reallydidn't write any of the script that we
saw, but he's like, I'mnot losing credit for this, I want
money. Yeah. Then he sharedthe credit with Cuzach and all of them,
and Cusack's like fair game. SoI don't think there's any long lasting

(48:45):
anger between them. But I justI liked their reunion that wasn't really a
reunion after this movie. Yeah,I mean that essentially is what happened with
them girls point blank as well.I think I think that they had less
of a rewrite than for High Fidelity. But yeah, well I didn't know
that. I love Grosswind Blank.I love that movie movie. Do you

(49:07):
like Grosswine Blank? Jay. I'veonly seen it the once and I liked
it a lot, but I justhaven't gone back to it. It was
a Landcast Movie of the Month afew years back. It's very rewatchable because
there's no like big breakups. There'sno like everyone gets over things pretty quick.
It's a good hangout picture, likea nights tale. It's excellent.

(49:29):
It's excellent. I love it.I watch it a lot. This and
conn Air I watch a lot.Ninety seven is imminently rewatchable. Then Violent
Them song that introduced me to that. What a soundtrack, and then Bowie
right, Bowie's in that No Bowie, Yeah, it's under Yeah when he
has his life changing realization that lifehas meaning. Yes, so good.

(49:51):
I have that entire movie memories thisin Connor. I didn't even need to
rewatch this or see the clip againto talk to you guys today. I
just could have winged it. Well. I mean, that's why you're the
expert. That's why we were legally, that's why we have to get you
know, like you know, Iknow you're this is part of your You
had to volunteer hours, so youcame on for this. But I appreciate

(50:12):
you doing that though. This isgreat. Anytime, any time? Any
any final thoughts about this this chapter, Jay, do you have any notes?
Uh? I'd like we haven't reallymentioned it. Okay, he just
hasn't some mountless inspects. Oh yeah, but he's just holding it. Yeah,
I'm just looking inquisitively at the antlers. In the script, it's only

(50:37):
Cyrus and and Dog that come over. Cyrus makes all the other cons stay
and keep keep focusing on digging outthe blame so when he has the SI
in our line, there's no oneelse there to hear it because dog Dog
is checking at the crane. Let'ssee, like you said, good out
of that crane. I love Ilove that, like no one sees getting

(50:57):
the crane, and then after thecrane comes down, Oh, it's just
like inspecting it and like, welldid this just full? We don't.
We don't have that scene like wellhang thee yeah, someone that's ever addressed.
I wish Diamond Dog would just dolike a huh, like a shrug
like maybe it was the wind.This does that because he's actually chilling in

(51:21):
the car. That makes me sohappy. And and we've commented throughout how
like Christine and literally buttoned up Cindohas looked. So it's nice that he's
really disheveled. Yes, he's beenin a plane crash, it makes sense,
but just how how beaten up andtorn everything bloody he is when he
gets burned. I just I likethat juxtaposition. That's just a defense.

(51:45):
Yeah, it has how long hashas griss and been waiting for someone to
say sigh and then him to tellthem with anna as that's gonna be something
he's had chamber for a long time. I think that's not that's not we'ven
sab wished that though, where hehas ready made one liners for people,
because we're going to get future episodeswhere maybe it goes I'm pretty clever,

(52:09):
right, No, that's pretty Doyou think that's why he hates kind of
respected fell Zone Cyrus didn't kill himbecause bell Zone is just so quick?
I think so. I think,sorry, sorry, he's run out of
comebacks to certain points. I likewhat he has to resort to. This

(52:30):
is has to resist on is likeSnara, it's finally happened. We don't
see him to look a little fistbump to himself. His last PY evaluation,
he is criminally insane, so maybethat does fit into his you know,
matrices of logic. Yeah, youknow. As much as I love

(52:52):
Cage slow My running from explosion,I do hate the way his hair moves
in this scene. It's it's it'sa glorious mullet, but the way the
like distink strands like lumps of itswaying the slow mow breeze. I don't
it looks kind of terrible here.I think it's glorious. What are you

(53:13):
talking about running out of the fireexploding behind him. It's just the way
it moves. I don't like it. Let me watch it, let me
see here. It's glorious. Itkind of looks very weightless day it's weightless
but also clumpy. I don't know, but he's not running that fast I

(53:35):
used to, like, I usedto run like maybe a fan was on
him. A fan was definitely onhim, or he's kidding me, like
thinking about how many egos were itplayed during the shoot? Come on,
they needed like eighteen industrial fans forevery actor, Oh for sure, Oh
okay, I mean half of themare bold. But for those guys,

(53:58):
I guess I never had the moneyto pay someone hit me with a fan
miles running, so I got Ithink I read the same thing that Trio
said that like whenever people weren't filming, they were just working out because they
were all so insecure about their bodies. About that. Come on, well
they did that. We in Predator. They had to work out all the

(54:19):
time, Like Carl Weathers was gettingup at four am to work out before
anybody got out. Yeah, theywere competing to get in there earliest,
weren't they in Predators? So it'sjust one of the first films that realistically
deployees walking away from explosion with everyonelike, oh my god, apart from
Cyrus because he's criminally insane. Wait, is this the first movie? That's
what I'm asking. I don't know. It feels like it's got to be

(54:42):
like every other film you think ofit's like an explosion, because often just
coolly walks away. But here isI don't know there was an explosion.
It's quicker, this hurts, it'sbarrel. Oh you're talking about The prisoners
are really reacting to it, likethis is horrified, especially especially Ajax's a
walk wallock because he's been burned recently, so it's like fire happening behind him

(55:04):
and he's towering more so. Yeah, because that would look way too stage
if all of them just walked straightforward looking into the camera. Just Cyrus.
Oh, I didn't even know.I didn't even think about that.
Jay, Yeah here, he doesn'tcare. Yeah. So we are down
to seventeen cons. Oh, Ithink it's the seventeen fire six. Yeah,

(55:34):
seventeen seventeen cons alive. None inthe air in this chapter, but
that's somebody. Yet we have alive because we have lost cin Dino.
We will lose a few more ina few weeks to come. Oh yeah,
not all of them make it backin the plane. We got the
Bone Fight, Bone Yard Fight comingon. Yeah, that's great names.
That's great names at the Bone YardFire Trump And yeah, we haven't mentioned
Dab's Square. He's been in threehundred and twenty one films. Wait,

(55:59):
Dab's guare the old guy to theTruck three twelve? Yeah, three hundred
twenty one. He's old Tom Hanksin The Green Mile, Oh my gosh.
Last film. His last crazy rolewas in Lizzie McGuire. So,
yeah, fine, that's a greatmovie. Don't in the in the TV
series? Oh well, then screwit. He played more in the episode

(56:23):
My Fair Larry season two, episodethirty. I don't know, I mean,
but that's that's the Bruckheimer staple,though, where you bring in just
bus loads of character actors so thenthey don't bother you when they do their
day play work. And thinks he'sa veteran character actor. That's what year

(56:44):
did he die? Two thousand andseven? He was ninety. That's not
bad. So he was eighty whenthey felt well, maybe seventy nine when
they filmed it. Yeah, slainunder a truck all day. Yeah,
I mean he's been acting since nineteenthirty nine. Holy cats. Yeah,

(57:07):
he played the young man in JesseJames nineteen thirty nine The News, the
old Guy under Truck. Yeah,I mean, I the best like comedy
lines in the movie. So,I mean for him, drugs will end
your son. That's why you bringin these I love it Like, that's

(57:29):
why I love Bruckheimer movies. Thebenches are so deep. They bring in
the best, like Michael Bay two. They just bring in the best character
actors to knock out a few lineslike it's it's perfect. Yeah, he
does his job here. He's inthe original House of Wax in the fifties.
Yeah, he's been in a bunchof stuff Arbrietetical Presents. Yeah,

(57:52):
anyway, that's correct. Legendary characteractor. That's so then, I oh,
okay, any other thoughts on thischapter all the film as a whole,
you haven't got through. I mean, I just think it's the greatest
movie of all times. So hopefullyyou're swaying hearts and minds over to our
side with this. We're trying somission in the podcasting is exalted as the

(58:19):
greatest film of all time. Itreally is, truly, because I don't
I think that. So I willleave you guys with this. I think
your favorite movie is not the oneyou like. Tell other like film people,
Oh it's my favorite movie, CitizenKane, screw that, it's the
movie you watch the most. AndConnie Art the movie I watched the most.
I mean, I tell everyone,So it's Drassic Park. That's one
of the most. Guys. Yeah, it's a great movie. Deep Bluecy'

(58:46):
is a classic. It's perfect moviemovie. So okay, where can people
find you? You can find mein an airport bathroom at a Chili's about
parting your kid. Twitter still aroundif it hasn't gone full on Nazi comfy
me on Twitter. It'sinkin. Peopleare gonna be looking. And then you

(59:12):
also write for some other companies,correct, like Mary Sue I do.
Yeah, I'm at the Mary Suenow. Heck yeah, I saw you
posting those articles. That's awesome.I love it. It's really fun.
Yeah, well, thank you somuch. I'm glad we got yan.
Yeah it was court mandated, butwe did. We were gonna do it
anyway, Like even if even ifwe weren't getting you know, like pushed
to do it, we would havebrought you on. Anyway. I love

(59:34):
it, Thank you. This isreally fun. And I have a question
when you were brought into your cellto record this that you were you kind
of chained up like Arland or what. Yeah. And then there was also
a synthesizer doing done Dune done.I was just like my friend in the
next cell over. I asked themto do that. Oh, that's cool
that there's a synthesizer in the nextcell. Yeah. Yeah, there,

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they get it for good behavior.Wow. Then they just follow you whenever
you go to record episodes. Onlywhen I do cool time, Yeah,
I mean, you don't have ascore for uncool stuff, right right,
Like you need to have a scorefor cool things, exactly exactly. So
only when I'm like doing crime,running in SlowMo, or entering a saltar

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record podcast, does it happens.Have y'all watched I'm Gonna Get You sucka
where the guy has his own bandplaying to see music behind him. Of
course I have. I was onmy neighborhood city council with one of the
actors from that movie. Oh,that's amazing. Yeah, I don't know
why, but I'm going to recordan episode about that soon. But got

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me thinking about college where some guytold me that if he became a millionaire,
he was gonna have a band followme around and play like I come
from a landown under all Day.So no matter where I go, that
song of a band behind me playingthat song and it would be amazing.
That's what Elon Musk should do,as opposed to like doing whatever it is
he is doing. Ye. Yeah, pay for a band to follow me
around in play I come from alandown under all Day. Yes, that's

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the dream, the billionaire dream.Well, hey, thank you for joining
us, of course, thanks forhaving me. Yeah. Uh. I
got some videos coming out for fandom, So I got I think John Wick
one of dragon ball Z one andBest Chris one for So if you go
when the Honest trailers come out,you can go on fandom to the buy

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the numbers videos that are with themand then watch those videos coming out.
And then I got, I thinkI have some food theory. I have
a have a style theory, gametheory and film theory episodes coming out soon
too, So check out those moviesonto Flakes the podcast. We're just number
one in India. It makes mevery happy. How do you promote that
you can hear him? I caneveryone deep Blue see the podcast. What
we've been through, a perfect FILMDBCchapter adjacent films or scenes. Well recently

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number one in Spekistan. Yeah,all of TV and film number one,
Yeah, which is incredible. Idon't I don't understand. But come listen
to the Conne Show as well.Yeah, we'd love to have here and
you can hear me once a monthof generally hosting Lampadi maybe Trivia over on
the Lamb Cast. It is comingback soon, I promise. But as

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for Connor Chace Tournay, thank youvery much to our guest Kate Hudson.
All Right, the cops are takingher back to herself. I should never
know if I make thanks, I'vebeen Jakler and I Mark Alf come back
next week or the bunny gets itSi Anara