Chapter 33 - Little Rapscallions

Jay and Mark are joined by Lindsay Street (@lindsay_street on Twitter) to discuss the chapter in which Cyrus the Virus unleashes a non-clever comeback to a clever insult. In this episode, they also talk about childish comebacks, dancing cons and Casey's letter

Episode Transcript

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Bunny Down, Bunny down, Bunny, Bunny back in the box. Hello,

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and welcome to con Air the Podcast. I am Mark Clever Hoffmeyer,
and I'm Jake. No, it'sClever. Welcome you aboard the podcast.
Chapter thirty three. On this show, Mark and I fly away through scene
by scene. How's that a reasonbody just shot? No, that's clever.
We'll get we'll get to him.I didn't know that was gonna be

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your intro. I hope that wasgonna be intro so I could then retaliate.
So I worked up nicely. Anyway, this is chapter thirty three,
O'Connor. What happens in chapter thirtythree O'Connell, Well, the jailbird flies
away from learn at Field, theconsoled board dance to sweet Home, Alabama.
In the whole Diamond Dog finds Casey'sletter to her father, and because
it's a cyrus who aims to weedout the traitor on the plane by threatening

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to shoot guard Bishop hey Bio confessorsand literally takes the bullet for pole and
a cyrus reads a letter and theLloyd's helicopter which is from behind. So
we need a guest. How ustalk about this chapter? So this is
our second, but not the last, contributor from Fresh Sunday joining yesterday,
also from Yes Please Vintage. It'sLindsey Street. Lindsay, welcome to the
show. Hey, thanks for havingme. Thrilled to have you on board

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today. FS crew representing Hell Yeahwho. What do you mean by today
is did you We've had Nick onand Jess will be on at some point.
Did you record multiple today? No? No, no? No?
Oh okay, sorry, sorry,I get you now. Have I been
on this podcast before? You've beenon deeply see the podcast but not torn

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air the podcast. I had areal I had a real mode because I
watched rewatch the movie and I haveI've rewatched it fairly recently, and I
was like, did I do prepfor this podcast and not go on it?
Like? Is that a real thingthat happened? This is this is
the earliest we've had youse schedules.So okay, you would have loved to

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have had you on an earlier chapter. So I swore I was going to
come on and talk about the scenewith the kid, but I don't know.
I had had like a whole brainmoment that I was like, did
I do you do get the finalscene with the kid. She's in this
moment. She didn't we get abrief glimpse of this child. So let's
start with this dad. I thinkthis child is real. What's your theories?

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Yeah, she's fake? Is ita figment of Garland Green's imagination?
Is she a real child that's justrunning Ferrell in this trailer park? Did
she survive the cartel? Like?Who is this kid? You guys?
Are you guys are busting this wideopen? Because I did not even consider
that for a moment. And that'spretty great. Yeah, because when this
kid shows up, it's it's soperplexing. But I'm any moments are perplexing

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in this film that I don't thinkit's necessarily out of character that this random
child is roaming the desert. Somy pet theory is that this is all
in Garland Green's head. This isthe first murder that he committed, was
this little girl in his childhood trailerpark that he grew up in. So

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he just gets the doll, likejust he just sees a doll. He
finds a doll, and that likesnaps him back to this memory of his
first childhood kill and he relives outthat moment where he would have killed her.
This time he doesn't kill her,which makes it okay that he's free
at the end. Wow. Fair, This is a whole backpedaling from I

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didn't want this be a happy endingand he's not on some murder sprek.
How we make that happen? Thisis a real, like white like woof
moment because when you see her runningout, you're like, oh, okay,
I can enjoy this movie is thelast piece. There was the gently
rocking broken cup. If we neversee this girl again, the movie is

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done, like, I'm just gonnamake he just he just murdered a child
in the middle of a scene likethis would not the momentum would halt right
here for me, I think ifthey actually went there. So I was
very happy to see this kid alive, very happy. Yes, I agreed,

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well controversial yet brave opinion. Ithink they should have went for he's
not to Garland and he's wearing ahead as a hat full full off,
fully off of it. That wouldhave worked better, Jay, now that
you say it, Like if hejust walked on in the plane with a
skin mask of a child, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. He's

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walking around with the head swinging itlike Sweet Home Alabama. He's up there
dancing with Sally Can dance with thehead. He's delivering his irony line,
like just with the skin on hisface, the hair she's combing the hair
of the decapitated head. See ifit went that far, it works.
But if you never see her again, then it doesn't work. Oh oh

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my goodness, See you changed mymind, lindsay, like, that's yeah,
but it has to go for it, like it has to. Like
that movie I Saw the Devil.They find a body in a lake and
they put a head in a box, but then the guy trips and then
the head rolls out of the boxand just goes right in front of the
dad of the woman whose head itis like, and it's so disturbing that

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you kind of laugh because you're like, that's they went there. Yeah,
what's a better scene he's talking tothem about the irony, or he's dancing
with Hallie Cannon dance. I don'tknow. I like the irony line because
it made me realize. I waslike, I don't think I actually know
what irony means. It doesn't meanthis. I listen to too much Alanna's

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Morset and watch too many movies toreally know. With the no one can
know. Honestly, I don't thinkat the heart of it, any of
us really know what irony means anymore. And you know what, maybe we'll
never figure it out. I don'task more a sad song like nothing is
is there? Like the guy whowanted never wanted to fly, but then

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flew and then it crashed. That'sironic, right, No, what is
that? There's bad luck? Badluck? Yeah, it's like that's pretty
ironic. Dude never flew, thenhe flew and he crashed, Like that's
because there's irony there. Yeah,there's like a few definitions of irony,
is there not the one that Iis that's what you're doing. You aim

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to do something and you doing thatthing utterly? Was this the opposite fact?
Isn't that exactly? The guy onthe plane then, oh, because
he's well, he aims to likefly. Oh, I guess what you
mean? Is okay? An example? I can't think of one, like
they say, like a clown's funeralis an ironic? I was I supposed

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to make you happy and it makesyou sad. I don't know, but
I don't think Yarland Greene's example isironic because of the people dancing on a
plane to a song famous by peopledying in a plane crash. Firstly,
that same is incorrect. The songwas famous before the plane crash. The
song came out in nineteen seventy four, the plane crash in seventy seven.

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I've had a linuxkin a day today just so you know, this is
what I've been doing today is researchingthis and this plane crash. So the
song hit like number eight on theUS charts before the plane crash. That
was it was the most popular southernrock song. I think that's the description
I found for it. So himsaying it was my famous by them.
But yeah, I don't think whatif you said made really famous. I

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mean possibly, I'm not sure howto quantify that. I don't think people
dancing to a song sung by peoplewho died in a plane crash whilst they're
on a plane is ironic. Ithink that's just like that's odd, but
not ironic. I think it justproves that, like Lindsey said, no
one really knows why irony is.Like the other coach, Beard got irony

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wrong on Ted Lasso, like Jamie, like Jamie. He called them out
for it, and that's insane thatBeard didn't know what messed up irony.
So it's kind of to each theirown. Okay, like a fly landing
in my new chardonnay, that's notironic, that's just kind of grows.
But most of the things in theironic song are just bad luck? Isn't

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it bad luck? That was theoriginal title, and then the producers like
just switch it to ironic. There'sthe comedian Ed Burn has a whole who
act about going through the lyrics andthe traffic jam when you already late is
only ironic if you're a town planner. I think it's it's his lyne in
there, like it's it's just somebodybeing a traffic jam when they're late.

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That's not ironic. But if you'rethe person who designed where the traffic would
go, then that adds some ironyto it. And then that made them
wait, yeah, that goes toodeep. That's right. Well, the
the the irony that I've found islet's stick into the plane crash, shall

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we. Let's talk about the LinuxGonna plane crash a little bit, because
I have a page of notes onthe Linux Gonna plane crash. Someone who
was supposed to have been on thatplane was one of their backup singers.
It was Jojo Something. Her namewas Jojo Something. She was not on
a plane because she was at adrug rehabilitation center because she was having side
effects from substance abuse. So theirony there is doing drugs saved her life

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because she was supposed on there,but she wasn't because she was sick.
Anyway, that's the only iron Icould find that situation. This plane crash
is nuts. One of the survivorswas Artemus Pile, who was the Linux
Kinna drummer and in twenty twenty hewill it was heavily involved in making the
film Street Survivors, the True Storyof the Niskan plane Crash. There's a

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bunch of podcasts out there with himpromoting this film three years ago. Listen
to one today. It's mainly hisside of the story. So it's it's
because there's a there's a whole lotof controversy with this. But his dad
was a pilot. His dad inthe plane crash. This guy has been
in three plane crashes, like oneawful three. Stop getting in planes.

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Spruce walls from unbreakable or something.I think you think. So, yeah,
there's a mystic glass out there tryingto cause all this. So the
plane that they got on a fewlike shortly before they went on, they
flew in it. Aerosmith was supposedto ride in it, and they looked
at the plane met the crew thoughtthe crew were sharing a bottle of Jack

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Daniels prior to a flight. Thisis the pilots, by the way,
and they were like, oh,no, thank you, and they turn
it down. Lena Skinners team didnot do that. Skins crew like,
this plane will be fine. Theyall said. They all knew the plane
was in bad shape. They wereflying to Baton Rouge. They had planned
to at Baton Rouge and chal theplane get a new one. All fixed
the plane up. They also allknew there was not enough fuel on board

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to get them to Baton Rouge.What the pilots, the crew, the
band this is all called Artemis,all called to him. They all knew
there wasn't a fuel on there,and so when the plane ran out of
fuel and crashed, they all werelike, yeah, this was the plan
pretty much. It's it's nuts.But then if you listen to him,

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he blames their entire staff. It'slike not doing these safety y x,
not letting them and having ulterior motivefor maybe wanted to kill the band.
I don't know, there's a wholeit's a whole thing. But yeah,
it's see it's it's bizarre that whathappened, like the blast half of the
band in this In this crash,the lead singer Ronnie van Zant, he

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was planning to divorce his wife uponlanding. He had the divorce papers on
the plane, but they he didwasn't able to sell the divorce papers because
he died, so she hasn't hateso much money off this plane crash.
Hey, not being divorced, Andyeah, it's it's the thing. It's

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just a trailer for your like unofficialLeonard skinnerd Plane Crash Conspiracy Theory podcast.
Jay, you want to get thatoff your shoulders. This is the first
time that you just had to readsomething. You were like, I need
to get this out there in theworld. You read that Wikipedia page and
you were like, no one's around, but I'm gonna be on this phone

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call and I'm gonna let everybody knowwhat I heard. I mean, I
went I read the Wipedia page andthen sought out a podcast. So that's
how far man. Well, they'realso so smart. I'm glad that they
didn't get on there, but wemean they've got on that plane. Plane
the cons would have been dancing towalk this way. That would have been

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like what their biggest song before theplane crash? Oh god? And then
dream on I don't know already dancedthe dream on that more. Everyone on
the planes is dancing and dream onreally slowly. This is this kind of
vibe on the plane. I'm skinner. This is a good usage of skinner,

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like I love them in Devil's Rejects. I remember in Elizabethtown there's a
full on free bird performance. They'vethey've been Talladega Knights has some freebird Yeah,
free birds in thirty three different filmsor TV shows set about seventy two.

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They've they've never said no, Ithink I mean it's money, right,
it's money each time you do it. Yeah. Sorry. My biggest
thing about the plane crash the brandof plane. Were they on their Convair
what's the name of the plane andthen it's in Conne Wait really yep?

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Plane brand? Will CEO n vAi R con CV two forty and then
they talk about the plane crash inconne It's all connected. I've got a
board with strings on it. Thisis some Da Vinci code stuff right here.
We need Ron Howard, you TomHanks to go make this movie.
J J. Billingsley that was hername, back saying do it. You

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know. This is a good chapterthough, because it resets It resets Cyrus
the virus because for several chapters he'ssort of the cool guy, and then
this one you're like, oh no, he's horrible, Like he's always been
horrible, but in this one hejust straight up like shoots Baby I in
the chest. So it's kind ofnice to have like amp up the states.
At this point, I can toremind us that he's on a plane

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with a bunch of killers, becauseyou kind of forget that for a little
while. That's very true about theylike because there's only like this brief moment
of levity on the plate. Whichis why I also don't mind the song
used because I feel like those peoplewould have used that song in this movie.
I do not like the music asa whole on this movie at all.
Um, but well, just thesongs um. I did like the

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score, it's fine, But yeah, I like Cyrus. I mean I
think that Malkovich is one of thebetter. Like, well, there's so
many performances in this. It's sohard for me to get behind Cage in
this, but I get it,and I don't you know what I mean
where I'm like, oh okay,But every time he talks it's so funny,

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like it's just whole like I wantto know more about the dialogue like
dialect coach there um, because I'mnot really sure what he's doing, but
he's I know, this is likenot my chapter. But he says toothpaste
at one point in the movie,and I like laugh for forty minutes.
But um, the but Cyrus inthis scene has one you guys like mentioned

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it obviously in your intro, butthat line made me like laugh out loud,
very hard when he said that's cleverbecause it's so stupid. He's supposed
to be so like, you know, brilliant. It's like, what that
is not clever at all? Butit was very fun. That's what we
kind of realize is that he's he'sgreat up planning things, like he's planned

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this whole thing when he has timehe's smart when he's like on the spot,
he's awful when when when he's beenlocked up in the cage and the
guard falls on has a nice reparteeand Cyrus can just like smile back at
him. This is kind of like, this is kind of key for these
people, right that, like thesecharacters and movies where it's like, oh,

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he's got two degrees, so hemust be a genius. Um.
So I think they kind of playthat well where it's like he thinks he's
very smart, and like other peoplearound him buy into that that lower and
but he's not actually like that smart. He's clearly got a lot of things
he doesn't have a lot of foresightfor. But I just enjoy I enjoy

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the levels of masculinity in this film. And full disclosure, I've been watching
I've been going through the entire Fastand the Furious franchise to lead and I've
never seen it before, and it'sit's kind of all I want to talk
about, similar to yeah, similarto Jay and his Leonard skinnerd Wikipedia article.

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But just I've been rank them,what do you how would you rank
them? So far from what youso I'm on eight, so I'm very
I've been desperate to watch Hopton Shawbecause I think I need it as a
palate cleanser. At this point,I do like them all, but I
need I need some jokes, andI think, okay, so I'm like
not finished eight, so I won'tcount that, Okay, I don't.

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I'm I don't even think it's ahot take. But Tokyo Drift might be
the best, best one, theonly best friend. Yeah, I mean,
I really think it might be thebest one. It's it's also I
like it Tokyo Drift that you think. I don't know, like going into
it, I was like, one, I really had love expectations of perhaps

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that helped. Two, I waslike, okay, cool, they're going
to drift their cars whatever, right, But like the drifting is pretty fun
cool, Like I really enjoyed watchingthem do it, and like the mechanics
of it. And then the endchase sequence or the end like downhill race
is really fun. And then afterthat, I don't know, I don't
want to say they like they muddledtogether, but you know, obviously then

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Diesel is really, you know,building this story, this soap opera,
so the plot lines do kind ofrun together for me. I like when
the Rock is introduced later, Ithink the Rock. It seems very obvious
to me why like the Rock andStath them got to spin off, because
it seems like such a breath offresh air compared to the rest of like

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what the cast is allowed to doand say tyres and ludicrous. I get
it. They have some they getto have their banter. Whether or not
it's actually funny is for another debate. But don't you huh, don't you
huh? Yeah? I love Romanand movies are so different, so least

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character for the French air. ButI don't know. I'm trying to think
if I can like keep how Ican keep ranking because I don't like sometimes
I'll remember a sequence and then Idon't remember what it's from. But I
love my ranking is three and thenthe rest. That's such a unique perspective
on the French by two and threeare my favorite, by like a mile

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and then rest out. Yeah,it stands out as one of the better
like front to pack movies as faras that's concerned for me, because like,
once they do the high, whichI feel like is five, it's
fast five the bank heist. Afterthat they are given I know we are

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not on a fast and furious Yeahwe are, yes often, but like
after five. The funniest thing tome, like the thing I enjoyed the
most, is that every new installmentthey just get new skills. Like no
one talks about it. We don'tget one line where they just met.
You know how easy it would beif they if like you know, Ludicris
started hacking and they were like,whoa man, where'd you learn to do

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that? And he's like, whatdo you think I've been taking all those
night classes for done? Nope,they don't. We only even get that.
We don't need that. He justis now a hacker. And that
is my favorite part because every timesomebody learns how to fight, I don't
know, they could just say MichelleRodriguez learned it when she was brainwashed,
but we don't get that. Soyeah, she's people in the first one,

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but stolen about stolen DVD players aswell, Like compare that to Always
Spoke, But yeah, compare that'sthe ridiculous places and saving the world and
stuff they get in the later ones. Every France doesn't every franchise ever made
get more and more insane. Theystay, but you would argue the stakes

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get bigger, but in this franchisein particular, they give them, they
imbue them with skills they have neverhad, nor do they explain them like
it happens. I'm not It's noteven a joke. It happens every time.
And then they also like change allegiancesvery like without any of our knowledge.
We're not really privy to why thathappens, nor do we mean to

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be. I suppose in this universethey defy physics at one point, so
substantially that have to at one point. I mean, like I'm saying that,
like I think that when it likeit really goes over, it is
the jumping off the bridge, whenthey go off the bridge and they land,
I definitely had to google, likehow far off the ground can you

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be before you jump into water anddon't die? And then so like after
that, it's just like, okay, well all bets are off, So
I can't really look at this throughthe same lens. And now I'm on
eight and that's the Charlie's there inone and I this one's directed by f
Gary Gary, and I feel likehe should really, really really really direct
a Marvel of him film because thiswhole film feels very much like it's an

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Avengers movie, and he does agood job with it, but it's so
jarring that it's like, I don'tknow, there's all there's a lot going
on. There's a lot going on, but I do like I'm partial to
fighting sequences, like I like fightingaction movies, so like an eight,
the prison break is like been ahighlight for me. I think that was

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a really well crafted scene. Butagain, that was like the Rock and
Stay them, so I get it. I get why they're so likable.
Also, knowing all the behind thescenes beef is really funny to me.
I don't know. Okay, listen, Dwayne Johnson was not He wasn't like
he was on a bad run goingup to Fast five, then brings him
into Fast five, blows him up, and then Dwayne Johnson's calling him out

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on Instagram a couple of films later. It just kills me, and I
guess Dwayne said he shouldn't have donethat, but well, he brought a
lot of drama into the Fast world, and this is Vin's world. I
mean, like Tom Cruise probably wouldn'tallow someone to come in and take over.
I think it is my understanding thoughthat Vin Diesel is like a nightmare
person, but he makes the studiosso much money that they like keep green

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light, like putting the green lightup. And it does track that like
Vin Diesel is constantly like not inshape when production starts, and like basically
it tracks to me that like theRock is on top of the jar and
like is annoyed that they have to, Like I've heard he's like a massive
diva basically Vin Diesel. Not thatI'm sure they're all very diva bish,

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but it seems very funny to methat, like I think that he did
give him a boost, but it'sit's undeniable to me that like I would
rather watch like the Rock do anythingthan watch Vin Diesel in these like I
can't handle him in these movies.Like he's too he can't even give himself

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like a moment of levity, youknow what I mean. Yeah, that's
why I love Like, that's whyI love Roman, like too fast,
you furious, Like Roman and Brianthey're just idiots. Like they're fighting.
He's like you still fight like crapjiu jitsu and yeah, like they have
a real like they're friends, arelike best friends and at the end of
Too Fast, You furious, theydo a super jump, but then they're
too injured to get out of theircar and even Mendez has to save them.

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Like that's what I kind of like. I do like when they let
Brian do that. I also likehave a problem that he was in so
many movies. This is my problemwith Paul Walker is that he was in
so many movies, but like inbetween he didn't decide to like take an
acting class or like, you know, learn to be a better actor.
I don't know it, Like itreally bugs me that, like he is
so wooden and bore. I don'tcare who knows it. It's just like

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these people, Okay, sorry,everybody else is like so charismatic in the
cast that it bothers me. AndI think he's great. I guess we're
just watching different movies, but thesame supposed to be two completely different people
watching the same movies, so we'renot gonna have the same exact feeling about
it. But you think Paul Walkeris charismatics, Yeah, Like so watching
Running Scared, watching The Hours,Like he's really good at the freak out

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and he grounds the movies. Ithink his athleticism in the movies are really
good. I think it's kind ofawe shucks, and the first one works
well. In the second one,him and Brian like Roman, I think,
have a lot of fun. FourI think isn't the strongest all around,
so I can't talk about that.But five when just like his interactions
with Dom when he when he talksabout being a dad. And then in

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six, oh boy, that scene. I had to rewind that scene thirty
times when he says I remember everythingabout We laughed so hard at that scene,
Bob accuse, you know, likehelping my sister Mia. Like I
just think what I like about Brianis grounds it like he he's like while
Hobbs is picking people up with onearm, a two hundred and fifty pound

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person with one arm and throwing theminto the ceilings. In Fast six,
Brian sort of has to scrap andlike use jiu jitsu, and like he
always I think he helped keep thefranchise to being absolute utter ridiculousness. Then
is he like game powers in thewell he like in six? Right?
In six he so in the firstone he wasn't that great of a driver,

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but he practiced lots two comes byhe becomes a street racer over the
course of a year because time liketime like it takes a little while.
Then he goes in four, whichis years later, so he's had time
to drive and like become an officer. So he's already skilled by five and
six, Like, I don't know, there's like a callback to Too Fast,
Too Furious. He knows how toget rid of that thing, but
he's never the one who like doesthe super I mean, aside from five

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the car surfing, but yeah,he never starts hacking or he never starts.
Six is the one where he goesback to prison to punch Shawig him
in the nose again, I think, yeah, and that was my first
one. That was the first one. Whissel was six. So that's the
one that starts off with like thisrecap with the previous five films. I've
ready appreciate it that good, Likehe takes down like in the first one,

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he uses jiu jitsu in the Fastand Furious, Too Fast and Furious,
he uses like he he has tolike use jiu jitsu to beat villains
in it. Yeah, so I'mnot going to argue with you about the
character. I'm gonna argue with youthat Paul Walker as an actor is like
watching a board like he's not I'mtrying to be nice, but I think
he's like very okay for the likelittle he has to do, Like he's

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good looking, but like that's maybethe extent of where it stops from being
his Like I'm just like this guycan't emote at all. Like when he
gets to be silly, it's thebest, but it's almost jarring seeing him
laugh because you're like, what's happeningnow, It's like seeing the animatronic like
wig out for a second. Ican tell he loves Tyrese because like they're
scenes together, like in six whenhe calls him the blonde and they just

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laugh like those Yeah, it's nicewhen you can cut loose. But I
think Vin definitely likes these things tobe a little bit more serious. I
think Vin. I think Vin likeshimself to be serious. Like I think
he has a very distinct idea ofwhat dominant or like who Dominic Cretto is.
But the fact that it like henever strays from it over there.
Maybe it's just the problem with likebinging them all so like if you're watching

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them sing like in a singular movie. It maybe is like a little bit
more like uh, consumable, Butwhen you're watching it like all together,
you're like, man, this guy, this guy's a lot. And you
know what, though I think you'reI just had to I'm watching him now
and have to analyze every single NASusage, every single gearshift, every single
butt shot, every fight, everytheft. So I've had to like pull

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all the data from all the fastmovies. And uh, I definitely learned
that I like the earlier ones better, but four is not great. Yeah,
Four, I don't remember very much. Yeah, I'm a defender of
Fool. I really liked Fool withit. What happens who? Who's like
what happens in four? They it'slike in the reboot where they Letty dies.

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They introduced Han, and I rememberseeing Han for the first time.
I was like so happy. Also, I love Justin Lynn the director.
But then yeah, and I missHan. He could go undercover. Han
was a grounding character, had charismanot in five and Giselle. Oh my
gosh, yes, when he's cryingabout Giselle in six. And also I'm
sorry, am I supposed to believethat? So everything happens before Tokyo Drift.

(29:32):
But the scene in Tokyo Drift Iremember is like he's like, I'm
driving to get girls, and that'slike right after she died, right,
Yeah, I suck back around Dolphinyou've seen going. Yeah, he's he's
like I think he's just given up, I think in Tokyo Drift. And
then he finds Lucas Black as aguy to like kind of take under his

(29:52):
wing. Maybe he reminds him ofhis old crew, so I think that
gives him a purpose again. Yeah, but yeah, he's seen straight up
like womanizing until Kyo Drift. Itjust that, yeah, and also like
not that it should be expected,but just they could give like like,
Okay, Michelle Rodriguez is like obviouslylike an insanely capable action star, but

(30:15):
her plot lines are so sad,like they're so upsetting. They can't like
make she doesn't feel like a memberof the team. It's just like they
have her around and like for threemovies she can't remember what she's doing.
So it's just terrible to like,it's upsetting to watch that, and then
I feel the worst by far forlike Jordana Brewster's character who they show can

(30:37):
race and like then they're just likeNope, she's never allowed to join us
ever again, and she's just completelysidelined. And then eventually they're just like,
yeah, you can't, like youjust can't come back because Paul Walker
can't come back. The nice thingabout nine is she gets a big old
kitchen fight and her and Letty justdrive. Oh she's in nine. Yeah,
oh okay, and so she getslike a she gets a big time

(31:00):
kitchen fight, like she's actually likea fighter. Now that's her new skill.
Okay. So yeah, yeah,and then she wasn't written in the
ten, but Vin Diesel's like,we need her, and so then they
wrote her in. And then Justinlying quit and then they brought in Louis
Leterrier, the guy who dre directedThe Transporter. Maybe that's why. Yeah,
another thing, Justin Linn quit andbasically said that the movie wasn't worth

(31:23):
his mental health. I think thatVin Diesel is the problem. I do
like the franchise in spite of VinDiesel and Louis Teria is the reason why
I'm not necessarily looking forward to theFast TEP because I don't think he's a
good director. Yeah, Vin Diesel, I somebody has to sit him down
and see, it's okay if yourcharacter to lose a fight now and then
right exactly, It's like it getswhen he gets to night, it gets

(31:47):
ridiculous fights. He's not losing.It's also frustrating because I know that Vin
Diesel is charismatic if that like Ilike black right, like remember how back
in the day and he like hehas unseen where he gets like mad about
his daughter and it's so brief,but he like you know, has this
like scream, this like guttural andI'm like there you go, like,

(32:07):
we just want to see anything.I want to see him have any emotion
other than like just stoic, weirdhero guy that never changes. Because there's
been so many movies, there's achance for some growth there and it doesn't
have to be wildly out of character. You're gonna like this. I have
a data article coming out because Ihad to. I was like, well,
I'm going through all the fast movies, I might as well watch every

(32:29):
Vin Diesel movie and see how manysleeveless shirts he wears on each of them
and catalogue to different variations. Ohplease, yes, And so because you
know he started off in the ninetieswith like his you selling toys with sleeveless
shirts, so his movie shrazy,it's sleeveless, Like that's his whole gimmick.
So I charted how many there aren'teach one what color they are?
And I have some really good datacoming out soon about his sleeveless shirts in
his movies. Oh I can't waitbecause that's yeah, we we look for

(32:52):
that. So how would you rankNicholas Cage's sleeveless shirt wearage, Like with
his shoulders exploding out of that tanktop this movie, how would you rank
it? I think he looks prettygreat body wise in this. I do
think it's like a crime, likewhoever made him like this is actually very
similar to how I feel about BenDiesel and that neither of them have like

(33:14):
any sex appeal in my opinion,Like it's it's like only a man would
be like only a straight man wouldlook at it and be like, yeah,
okay, this guy sure because likewhen it's similar to how I feel
about Nick Cage. When I seeVin Diesel have any sort of romantic scene
with someone, I just feel sobad for them. Yeah, Like I'm
just like, man, they're reallygiving it. They're all and like it

(33:36):
in Nick Cage. I know thisis like, again, not my scene,
but when he has to like kissMonica Potter on the dance floor,
that's so upsetting. You know,we had a guest recently you said this
is the Hottestick Cage with that,I'm not gonna say that. I mean,
I'll say this is the hottest he'sprobably ever been. But you know,
still it's not say exactly, yeah, that's in. Are then any

(34:00):
action starts you would say have sexappeal? Oh? I mean I think
most I don't know, I'm justthinking like through it, Like, okay,
who were gonna like if we picka franchise or something, absolutely anybody
else in the cast of Fast andthe Furious, all of them. Tyrese
is hot, Ludicrous is hot,the Rock is hot, Stathum's hot,

(34:22):
and He's you know, they're allthey're all look good. All the villains
are good. Like yeah, no, I mean I think that there are
very specific people that it's just like, oh interesting, it's undeniable that like
Nick Cage has like an on screenpresence that is like impossible to ignore and
insanely watchable. So I'll give itthat but I don't think sex appeals are

(34:42):
part of it. That's interesting.I guess. I yeah, I guess.
I guess you're right. He's asort of camera pell in this movie.
Yeah, which is fine, Likeyeah, because I mean I don't
think it's a movie that was madefor that. I think it was a
movie that was made you know,like four men, how do you the

(35:04):
entire subplot of insulin and then babyI would just get shot. Well,
you know, they had to haveyou care about I like how we don't,
Like it's just like immediately when wemeet him. Also, he's like
mopping the floor, which I couldnever figure out, but it's like,
oh, that's how we know we'resupposed to care for him. This is
my favorite part. Yeah, myfavorite part about this movie is like there

(35:29):
are no if ands or butts.We're just gonna show it all like right
away if you think this guy islike cool or not cool, so you
can make it make your way outthrough the movie. And then at the
end when we do like a littlelike here's who everybody is in the movie,
that's my favorite part because I'm likethey're showing these people like they were
all like look at these look atthese like little scoundrels, but they're all

(35:50):
like terrible criminals. There's a littlerep scallions. Yeah, but it's not
quite the prens are ending where theywould like spot at the camera. Yeah,
I love that, Andy, Ohmy gosh, and listen, can
we can we spend some time?We did it? But like I really
that's clever? Can we focus onthis? We just like clever like that?
No, that's what in the script? Did he addlebate? What do

(36:14):
you guys think? Like what isthat? I'll look for the script you
guys, he shoots him. No, that's clever, Like it's such a
weird thing, Like I feel likehe prepares all of his lines, you
know what you like though you knowwhy it like it's so funny because it's
like when someone goes um and Idon't really want to do that, and

(36:34):
someone go, don't we do this? Like that had the energy? Like
the energy is like no, that'sclever or like no, like it's such
a throwaway that's like so out ofcharacter, or like it's not funny and
or it's not um like smart andelevated in the way that he's supposed to
be. That it just it comesacross so funny. Yeah, that's right
because you yeah this in the script, Baby says that's right clever. Huh,

(37:00):
and Cyrus's response is, ahaps,if having a bullet in your chest
is clever, he raised his guna baby, I pose, like no,
and then Cyrus hues, Baby,Okay, what ends up in the
movie is way better. Wait,why is having a bullet in your chests
clever? Yeah? Well no way. Is he saying you're you're being clever
and now you're shot? Is thatwhat he's saying. I think he's just

(37:22):
picking up on a word baby Isaid, and using that in his retaliation.
You're stupid exactly, You're stupid exactly. I know you love but what
am I? Yeah? I loveit too, Like I love when guard
fies On fells On just just shortcircuits him in the cage. He has
no reply to him. And thenin this one he's like, no,

(37:44):
that's He's like, that's clever.So like we're watching Cyrus sort of,
we're watching Yeah, he has hehas some some chips in the in his
paint job. Like he I can'tthink of a better term, but like
he's he's not almighty like Hans Gruber. I guess he's he's a he's not
as smart as he thinks he is. Yeah, I think that's it.

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Well he's not. It isn't likebeing bully, does he Like when Thaison's
too fast for him? He can'thandle it. When when when BABYO calls
him a bit, He's probably notused to that. Like imagine being a
bully. Then someone calls you that, You're like, wait, people will
talk to me like that, likewhat And I guess you just thump him
like Cyrus does. But yeah,what were his crimes again? Who Cyrus?

(38:34):
Oh? Cyrus, He's brags he'skilled Momentum Council. He he's like
broken up prison a bunch of time. He's done. It's what they say
is he's he's he's done everything,right, So he like he killed a
bunch of people, went to jailand then he was like he killed some
people in like a prison break orsomething, right, Like is that why

(38:54):
they kicked They say he's like thevirus because they can't stop him. Yeah,
they just spreads Yeah okay Malkovich.Yeah, it just spreads his virus
all over the place and you can'tstop him. That sounds gross and it
does sound really gross. Also,I do appreciate Danny Trejo just hanging there
during the entire No one's helping him. Everyone's like, oh, yeah,

(39:15):
the rapist is tied up. That'sfine, that's okay. And he's still
acting too. If you watch him, he's like, oh, he's doing
a lot more than what he shouldbeing hung up in the air like that.
But I guess if you're Danny Trejoin ninety seven and you're standing next
to John Malkovich and Ving Rheims whoare on just add Fire at the time,

(39:37):
you're gonna just, hey, thisis better than prison, like real
prison. I'll just hang here nextto John Malkovich and listen to him deliver
kind of not great dialogue, andI'll just sort of hang out literally,
that's all. You're a big fanof the extra's dancing on the boat in
Deep Blue, See yeah, howdo you compare that to the CON's dancing?
Oh man, Ty Granderson Jones friendof the pod. He's crushing it,

(40:00):
like, I love his moves,and he pulls a cigar up like
he's he realizes he has some screentime. He's milking it. I absolutely
think that Ronauli Santiago is crushing it, just have like and then like Conrad's
just chilling, sort of not reallydancing too much, spitting bear one of
the gods. He's tired. Yeah, he is throwing a cigarette. I

(40:21):
hate Conrad. He has full unbreakable. He has a like a paragraphic dialoget
in this chapter will get cut out. I'm kind of glad about that.
I don't like him a toil andAmelia Rivera's dancing like he's doing just fine.
It's a good scene. It works. I remember laughing and when I
was fifteen years old at steep Bush, I mean delivering that line. I
didn't think about irony, but it'srare when you have just a serial killer

(40:45):
wearing a tiny baby head on hishead and making comments like that to a
jacked up Nicholas Cage. So yeah, that line actually really worked for me.
In ninety seven, in the script, uh Sadi, Count Dalts is
supposed to be wearing an steward Suniform that she found which they changed for
the address. Where would you findthat? Well, yeah, that's that

(41:08):
doesn't make any sense because like shewould have found it on well, I
guess they were an airport. They'vejust been an airfield, so they might
have been, but it's not reallythe kind of airfield where you would have
hanging around. Yeah, yeah,it's an odd one. I guess that
works though, but you change thatlike you don't need it. Yeah,
it's it's it's fine this way.Oh I love that Cyrus turns off the

(41:32):
stereo with a gun. Yeah.I wrote that, nice little moment.
Yeah, I'm bolded that that's someskill. Yeah, takes struck that he
miss one. Yeah, yeah,it's not he was Do we think Dog
Diamond Dog was down was sent ona mission from Cyrus to rove through the

(41:52):
boxes boxes and try and find whothe traitor was or he was just he
hadn't been down there yet to lookthrough this stuff, and he was doing
it again. We're actually happy wewent down there and found the sunglasses initially.
So he's just down there going throughboxes again? Is it a second
time going through? I think there'sjust some downtime. So he was like,
we'll see what the guy going ondown here. I don't like this
song. Oh there is something else, yeah, and my jam comes on.

(42:15):
Yeah, and then we get thefamous line at the end. Well,
we're not not even there. Yeah, when when when Dog gives Cyrus
the lesson, they both just looked. They looked at Pol when Pole looks
back, and it's all like everyoneknows they because they have to suspect Pole.
They like they have to. Itlooks great, I am, I
would think so when so so whenBabio like volunteers himself and takes the blame,

(42:42):
just Cyrus believe that want to shoota guy? I mean you call
him bitch, Like I feel likeCyrus is on a plane and he's Cyrus
the virus. So you come athim like that on a plane and he's
the leader of a bunch of comes. You gotta take him out. Yeah,
so even though he knows that,like you were your death the entire

(43:04):
time you're dead, you were.You didn't do this, but you insulted
me. So it's over. Ilike that someone actually the authors his cousin
city someone informed him of all.Some one even killed Paul Billy Bedlam.
This could be a coincidence. No, And then Steve Bushmi was like,

(43:24):
actually it's ironic. Of the movies. I'm arguing in about whether it's ironic
or not, Like, what's thedefinition? You know what I want to
talk about is the letter? SoI really this the daughter's letter. I
love. I love this letter rightthe repeating the date three times, it

(43:49):
seems it seems like it was writtenby the girl, like a girl that
age. Okay, and every othercorrespondence we are to believe that this child
is having with her dad. It'slike elevated beyond how I know how to
write, you know what I mean? Like it's like she's supposed to be,
like I think, going into firstgrade, and I'm like, when
did I learn how to read?Because she's like she writens some novels in

(44:13):
the beginning she's eight years old,but well but not when she starts correspondence.
Yeah, well that's what I wasgonna say. Is somehow I feel
like her learning has somehow regressed,and now we are getting the letter that
sounds like it would be written byan eight year old, like my dad

(44:34):
is coming home on this day,my birthday is this day. I will
see him on this day. Itjust cracks me up every day. Okay,
Maybe maybe she didn't just write thisletter this year. Maybe this is
like looking ahead, like my Daisy'sgonna be released on fourteenth in four years,
Son't she's left off the Oh,like, maybe it's okay she wrote

(44:54):
it in nineteen ninety three. Yeah, that makes way more sense. Whoa
quite so special? I've just seenJurassic Park. My Daddy's coming home on
July foot Yeah, yeahm or justTricia. I don't know. Maybe she's
just that's a good point. MaybeTricia just wrote the letters in the beginning.

(45:15):
It's like a ghostwriter. But theyhave they have a young child narrate
them. Yeah, that's true.Maybe she's good at voices, that's more
a compositi. So when Cyrus singof voices, when Cyrus reads out the
that's voice. That was a surpriseto the rest of the cast. That

(45:36):
wasn't planned. He knowned it afew times, not reading it in that
way, and then he did itin that way, and it's so great.
That's funny. It does the Iagree with Matt Damon actually with him
one round his story of like hejust he's not a good actor. He
just says things in a funny wayto amuse himself. I mean, his

(45:58):
accent rounders is crazy. It's isn'tit's that's's the reason the movie works though.
But when he does that voice it'sjust so I wrote excellent reading,
like it's so sarcastic and it's sojust yeah, it's it's kind of scary
and it's perfect. It's like,why you hire Malkovich for this type of
movie? He nails that reading makesme happy, he really does. And

(46:20):
then why Okay, so make amove and the buddy gets it. He's
saying that to Poe mh you know, yeah, well they still don't know
that that's definitely postbox or do theyknow that's post box. That's a lot
of rhyming. They still don't knowthat pose has Then they must know that's
postbox because that's how Billy bedlam.Yeah, yeah, so they Yeah,
they know that buddy is that wasin postbox. It should not have been

(46:42):
a mystery. Who was? Whowas? I never feel like out with
bloody box? What a poet puteverything in Viking's box? No, I
didn't do it. Is that guythe guy with the toe guy? I
hate it? Yeah. I alsoread that when um the cable was hooked
around pillar in the previous chapter andthey shot off in the script, they

(47:07):
didn't shoot it. Diamond Dog rushedout and unhooked it and got back on
the plane again. I don't knowwhy I find that music. Just like
thing Rams just hopping off a planejust in time. Four guys shooting a
concrete pill to Swiss cheese. That'sno gooda. I don't know. Would

(47:29):
would being Rams be a good movie? Runner? Uh not these days?
Do you mean like physically yeah,ninety seven? Would you want to see
him run? Uh? No,he's I mean it's he's too muscle,
you know, the muscle guys can'trun. Like it's just funny. I'm
not taking a shot at Dwayne Johnson. But there's a scene in The Faded

(47:51):
Furious started running away. I knowexactly the moment you're like, that's that's
like where you're like, okay,that's his weakness, like like they need
to exploit these things. Because that'sactually why I really liked the prison break,
because, like you obviously, oneon one, like Jason, State
Them is not going to be ableto beat up the Rock, but like
the idea that like State Them isagile and like he's like brute force.

(48:14):
It's fun. Yeah, And hedoes do that weird slide though the rock
and he bounces off the fence andlay on the ground. Another laugh.
Out loud for me, I absolutelylove that. I think it proves that
in this world, the fast world, cartilage is just much stronger. Yeah,
there's a lot of things that aren'treal. And John Cena Jay in

(48:37):
UM twelve rounds his running. Ilove John Cena, but big guy,
huge guys should not run the biggun. You kind of want the Indiana
Jones music stopped playing when the whenthe bowl is rolling. That's that's why
I think Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves, like Wesley Snipes the lither guys are

(48:59):
better at Yeah, I actually thinkeither, like the reason I know,
like Tom Cruise is so synonymous withit, but like just his everything about
his build is more not like helooks more natural running Like I would even
argue that, like, uh,like Keanu Reeves is a little bit lanky,
you know what I mean, Likehe can still do a run,
but like nobody does it like alike a shorter athletic build like Cruise.

(49:24):
Yeah, he can run, he'sgot sure, Yeah he's got He's got
that on lock. So it makesme tired when he runs. Yes,
Yeah, who do you think isthe best runner in the conn Air cast?
Oh? Good question. Well wesaw Cindino taking it across the the
airfield. Recently get to his planeand he had a very he wons thousand

(49:46):
kind of robotic straight limbs. Yeah, he was sprinting. Yeah. I
mean, if we're going for theshorter guy, then I reckon late Tyrannis
and Jones might be a decent runthe card with a cigar in this chapter.
Yeah, I can see that.I want to see Colemani do a
running scene. Yeah, like aJason Bourne running scene with COLEMANI you sick.

(50:14):
It's some good running Joan. He'swearing a sale so he's like,
fight against that. Yeah, getpicked up in the wind, just sort
of yeah, you know what I'mgoing Cusack, because he's running in Burkie
Burke run. Yeah, he don'trun a plane wearing a giant suit of
burken Stocks. Yeah, I wantto I want to see John Cusack played
basketball because I feel like he coulddunk it. I feel like he would

(50:37):
be okay at basketball. That's aweird, a weird thing, but I
I totally understand what you're saying.Who wins Sandler or Cuzak in a game
of twenty one? Sandler? Probablyhe knows how to play right. Yeah,
that's true. Yeah, I guess. I guess Cusack just has a
athleticism because he's like a black beltin karate, but he doesn't have the
form that Sandler does. Yeah,most important question I've ever asked. Yeah,

(51:01):
I'd say, Yeah, it's athinker for sure. So I like
that the bunny is back in thebox when that so makes me happy.
And I also I also like thatwe just get We had a few of
these in recent scenes. Just ashot of mc gainey doing a pilot it's
just a looking at a window,looking concerned as the plane takes off.
I just like to think they spentthat's like an hour with him in the

(51:23):
cockpit, just like, okay,look out the window this way, and
then I looked, look angry,looks get okay, just do that,
and they just those bits in whenthey hits him in the past a few
a few minutes burn attack, he'sit's believable that he's flying a plane.
I guess he's just he's not.That's the only thing we get in this

(51:44):
chapter is he's just there flying theplane. He's the pilot. What he
does. So, did you didyou know that sweet Obama was like a
disc, like a disc song.It was like a part of a beats
a musical beef with Neil Young.Yeah, I wasn't aware of that.
It's like the mildest feud in musichistory, pretty much like Neil Young made

(52:06):
the song Southern Man and Alabama,which allegedly accused all Southerners being responsible for
slavery, and Ronnie van Zan waslike, no, no, and they
released Sweet Amabama, where it's likeit's basically hashtag not all Southerners. Oh
oh, it's got that, it'sgot that energy. But then there we
only heard this song and thought abouthis lyrics and thought, yeah, you're

(52:28):
right, my songs weren't. No, I didn't be ambiguous, and so
they were collaborating on they're on moremusic when the when there was when Roman
died. So it's like a realmild feud that they resolved and would have
been they could have been albums togetherand stuff afterwards. I just find that
like nice, I guess apart fromthen, it's going to have way too

(52:49):
many Confederate flags in all of theirartwork. From the liking loss over that,
I move, what do you meanthey have a lot of Confederate flags
on the albums. I was joking, Okay, it's a bad it's a
bad flag linc. I don't likeyea, but yeah, it's nice to
see a feud kind of squash resolve. Yeah yeah, I like those who

(53:14):
going to or would not be pretty. Yeah, I'm just like too cynical
that all feuds are actually just orchestratedto like eventually have the collaboration in the
end. Is that why we're startingthis, Like we're gonna start a fast
and furious feud on this show andthen we'll collab later exactly on a fast
and furious show. Yeah. No, I even just yelled at each other
for every episode exactly. See that'show I'm saying, like people orchestrate feuds.

(53:39):
That doesn't sound like fun to me, though, I'd rather just a
chat with somebody for an hour asopposed to argue. So would I.
But I mean, I've celebrity feuds, but I I like to debate people
too and argue. But that's whyI like film podcasting, because even if
you have a very different opinion,nobody takes it personally, and at the
end of the day, you're allbuds, you know, unless you're talking

(54:04):
about yeah, yeah, or unlessyou hate Deep Bluecy. No, Actually,
we had people who didn't like Deepbluecy and I'm still good. Two,
I guess. I guess when youbecome an adult, you realize that
there's billions on the people on thisplanet who are all different, and we
all look at movies differently and watchthem differently and at different times, exact
different situations. So when you getyou know, when you become forty and

(54:28):
someone disagrees with the movie thought aboutyou, you're like, it's cool,
it's all good, it's fine,like I guess, but I was never
like that when I was younger,though, I don't think I ever got
annoyed at people for not liking amovie. I was never that movie guy.
I mean, I like to fightabout it, but I liked in
like a fun way, you knowwhat I mean, Like meaning like I
want you to explain to me whyyou like something? What'd you say?

(54:50):
I like. I like hearing,like when people are passionate about something,
I want somebody to be able to, like explain why, if that makes
sense. So I enjoy hearing likea totally different perspectives than my own.
Maybe maybe it won't change minds.Maybe it won't change minds, but I
like, I like it in alow stakes situation like this. It's the
other Day. So that's a movieOperation Fortune that came out, the Guy

(55:12):
Richie movie super Breezy, Like whatever, Yeah, I'm watching it last night,
but then I fell asleep and thenI was like, I gotta I
gotta pick that up. Is itany good? Should I watch it?
I mean, it's super breezy,it's like very low stakes and just sort
of pleasant, like there's nothing it'sit's Guy Richie light. It's just kind
of nice. But like someone goeslike they messaged me, like do you
really like that movie or you justjoking? I'm like I was like,

(55:37):
no, justin no, just Iwas like. I was like, you
know, if you look at itin context, it's just a breezy spy
caper and I'm cool with breezy skyspy capers. Like it's you can't look
like like like it's not as goodas Snatch. I'm like, yeah,
but like what is like he cameout of not like that movie? Yeah
it was huge, Like you likethat movie wasn't as good as Drastic Park?
Well, what is so? Like? I think you just during the

(55:58):
pandemic, wanted to make a spythriller, and that's has Abbie Plaza and
bugs him alone, and that yougrant being cheeky like that's all I need
and a jet ski so he Butyeah, I gotta like you didn't really
like that, And I got alittle annoyed by that. I'm not gonna
lie. I was very pleasant withmy response. But my blood level rose
a little, like my blood pressurerose, not my blood level. That'd

(56:21):
be weird. Get angry blood everywhere. Ark just exploded. But yeah,
no, someone did say that tome. Did they say it? Meaning
like, oh, you couldn't possiblyhave actually liked this movie, Like yeah,
like, yeah, this movie sucks, is what they're saying. Like
you didn't really like it, didyou? You were just being sarcastic.
Oh my goodness us Like it's justyou know, I'm just sitting there eating

(56:45):
a cookie and I get this messagejust just wrecting my cookie. Yeah,
it's like I'm pitch perfect. Whenthey wrecked the taste of that guy's beer
by their singing, I did notremember that part at all. A bunch
of times, I don't know whatyoure talking about. This guy he goes,
He goes, they're making my beertaste bad. That's a that's like

(57:06):
one of those like very tiny linesthat like you remember and it cracks you
up. And I just I totallyforgot that line. Yeah. I don't
know why that hit on me sohard, but I like that line.
It was good. Could perhaps I'vebeen in some terrible bands. I probably
have made beer tastes terrible, soI can relate. H I get you
Ye Bo Skinner covers though, Jay, Yeah, it's gets of hair.

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The three Budsman don't enough. Ithink. I just I've got it.
Paused on everyone's reactions to Clara's havinga shot baby out and like Joined twenty
three is woken up and looks terrified. Diamond Dog looks like annoyed and angry,
and Viking it just like looks likethe dumbest person in the world.

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He looks like he's all about it, doesn't he doesn't. Viking kind of
like, who oh, yeah,that looks Jay, You're right, he
looks. He looks like he's beentaking in some substances. I guess he's
it's not present in this situation attwo ten. If you have the clip,
I just wanted this to be mywallpaper on my computer. Now it's

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just a really angry John Malkovich.Look at me. Good sweat work in
the back by can Who's getting thesweat Bucket of war? Jay? I
think I think it could still beConrads. We give I didn't see we
give the sweat Bucket Award to thesweatiest person in each in each chapter.
Yeah, film, it's gonna bea tough call, which it often is.
I mean it's been baby for mostof them. But he's fine now

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that he had some very fast workinginculent because he is up and ready to
go. Yeah he was. Hewas sweat in this movie. So like
Pages is pretty sweaty, Conrad islike still sweated through his He's got a
long sleeve. I've set it greattop on, so it's just sweat.
It's going to be all over him. It's not a great it's not a
great tap it was once white.Then it's definitely he's got a light coaching

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with sweat everywhere, and a heavycoaching was sweat down his chest. Yet
Conrad still gets it. Then forthis one, I think, and we
have twelve cons in the air andits scene we're still still at twelve cons
in the air. I'll keeping talkof that number will down. There's no
sweat on Garland Green Jays, there'sno perspiration. Yeah, he's a juror

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number three four over the world whodoesn't sweat and two men mush Okay,
well, Lindsey, did you haveany more thoughts on this scene or CONNERO
as a whole? I feel likewe went through most of my notes,

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but it's the movie is so funlike it's I mean, it's a classic.
Obviously, you guys are doing aminute by minute. There's a lot
to talk about. There couldn't bea better movie to talk about scene by
scene than Conner Anything. Oh thatis my actual My only other note I
didn't mention on here is that Idrew my notes. I wrote con Air,
and then I drew a little plane, and I realized that because I

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do not know how to draw thewhen I draw a plane, it kind
of also looked like a shark.Oh nice, that's that's the mashup we
need. That's yeah, I justbring it all. Can you draw that
and we'll use as a new logo. Oh heavens now? Great? Well,
thank you for joining us. Lindsay, do you have anything you want

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to plug? No, just youknow, everyone say hi to Eddie in
the background. Yeah, sorry,can you hear her? My mute?
Every great often? Yeah, freaSunday, any plans any times? Soon?

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You really put me on the hotseat. Um. I also same
thing that Jess and Nike is alwaysyeah soon. They're cute. They're so
cute to them. I'm glad they'resaying that we're trying, We're We're you
definitely are trying. Jess was onDeep with Seas with the Lighthouse recently and
she's like, what I promise episodesthis year. I was like, yeah,
you said that two years. Yeah. I started listening to that episode,

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but I haven't seen the movie,so I had to pause. I
think you did enjoy the Lighthouse.Yeah, I have every intention. I
just you know, it was likeI missed it when it came out.
So I'll get around a lot ofgreat farts. Yes, I think that.
William Dafoe, Oh, I don'twant to start a fight at the
end of the podcast. All right, let's let's wrap it up. Okay,

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I'll tell you after I want tohear it. Listeners mull it over
and then I don't know. Idon't know if this is true or not.
And this this became like a thoughtin my head when I was like
trying to figure something out. It'sa long story, Like I was,
it was like a puzzle, andI was like, Oh, who's this
actor? And I was like tryingto figure it out. But is like

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William Dafoe and John Malkovich actually liketerrible actors, but they just are like
just weird enough that you are like, oh, no, they're actually good
actors. Does this make sense toyou? Guys? Have you watched Florida
Project? I have not seen that, So that is he's like super normal

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in that one to Foe. Doyou think he's good in it? Yeah,
Like he's like like some you know, you know, sometimes you can
get by on like being Willem theFloe or this one's he's another dude in
that movie. So I think that'sone to watch if you're what's Malkovich's most

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normalformance? I genuinely can't think ofone. Most normal performances, Like he's
every man role like in Red,He's in He's Gnarrowly, He's he's he's
like got PTSD and read he's offhis rocker a little bit. Yeah,
and we cannot say round not beingJohn, not in the Line of Fire,

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not of myce of Men. Hashe done a role where it's like
yeah, like I could go fora drink with him. Did a movie
with Tyrese called Rogue Hostage, butI haven't seen that bird Box maybe,
but he's barely in it. Yeah, I don't remember him too much on
that. He's in deep Water Horizon. Yeah, yes, that's playing a
real person. So you guess youcould say that one. Yeah, warm

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Bodies. He's the kind of dad. Yeah, he's pretty. He's not
like normal, but he's like nothe's not too wild in that he's like
dad Kevic Burn after reading No.After reading I genuinely can't remember who he
plays in Burn after reading He's Oswold. Yes, I just don't know a

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little bit. Brad Pitt in theface. Yeah, he's the guy.
He's he's looking for his his likehis his Oh yeah remember now and knock
around guys. He's b Pep's dad, which yeah, and so he's a
gangster and knockground guys. And helikes to just eat food and drink wine.
So like if you're not worried aboutmaybe owing the mob money, you

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could hang out with him. Heplays Javert in the TV show with Leams.
That sounds like adult costing. Allright, So I'm gonna say,
oh, he's in the Glass Menagerie. That's a really good adaptation that's not
dangerous as I'm gonna go with theone where not dead. You know what,

(01:04:31):
I'm gonna do Warm Bodies because Ijust want to have him talk about
fortifying the city from zombies. That'slike my life dream. I'm gonna He's
never played normal, That's what he'sHe's tried every predict he's done to be
like a normal person and failed everytime. Normal ish, is this how
normal people talk? I gotta watchRogue hostage now, which is a weird

(01:04:58):
word for like, it's him entireand they're in a movie together that sounds
like a film you should have seenby now. I'm disappointed Michael John Whites
in it. You should watching thisnow. We're hungry pockets saying empty because
Okay, and Defoe, I meanI haven't seen for a project. Sorry,

(01:05:20):
I'll take your way for these Normanand that all right, lindsay yeah,
Foe Malkovich. The stars are toofast to you furious. I would
watch them obviously. My question islike they're definitely they're both watchable, sure,
but like, yeah, are theyactually like good actors? Do you
never read about us? I getwhat you're saying. Yeah, I've been

(01:05:43):
like a little facetious, but likeyou know what I mean. You send
us a message everyone if you hearthis and let us know and we'll read
them out it during the episode.And I'm like, I'm not taking a
side. I'm just saying. I'mlike, I'm just posing a question.
I'm just putting it out there.I feel like I'm doing is he's oddly
normal in actual man, he's likea okay, but you're illustrating. My

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point is that when he's normal inthese things, I don't remember. I
don't remember anything about the performance.Do you know what I'm saying? Watch
The Florida Project, Okay, Iwill certainly watch that because that has been
on a watch list. Yeah,because then he's really warm and nice and
he's very Florida in it. Igrew up in Florida, and I just
I feel like I know that movieand he seems like a Florida dude cool.

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All right, that's a good recommendation. I will definitely watch that,
all right, he's a normal guyinside man's well anyway, Mark ALUs,
that's just uh oh. Nick NickRehack the member of part of the French
show Sunday Crew. He and Irecorded an episode about movie posters that feature
movie the characters and terrible predicaments.So he picked three movie posters. I

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picked three movie posters where the charactersare certainly going to die. And we
just chatted about it for fifty minutes, and I would say about seventeen minutes
of it is laughing, but theother thirty three minutes are pure gold.
So yeah, listen to that movieSongs of Lakes. It is the next
podcast in Mike You wonderful listen asyou could go and listen to Mark and

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Iver on Deeply See the podcast.Lindsay was on for a chapter of Deep
Busy and she was on talking aboutGhost Chip, a wonderful episode, a
wonderful film, a wonderful scene ofpeople being cutting up. We'll have to
get you back on again sometime soonfor some other film that you want to
talk about. Yes, please.And you can read occasional things that I

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write over a life ers from dotcom and hear me hosting Lampady over on
the Lambcast once a month. TheLambcast over there doing that true fun.
Times so great. Thank you onceagain to our guests Lindsey Street for chapter
thirty three of Tone I Have BeenJake Clert come back next week or the

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