Chapter 34 - Manatee Horror Story

Jay and Mark are joined by Robert Zerbe (@zerbert on Twitter) to discuss the chapter in which Nicolas Cage no-sells a bullet wound. In this episode, they also talk about releasing kaiju, jerky snakes, and respectful slapping. Enjoy!

Episode Transcript

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Bunny Down Down, Bunny down Down, then back in the box. Hello,

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and welcome to can Air the podcast. I am Mark, a literate
of insult Halfmeyer and I am JayStrain grunting noise Cluet, Welcome you aboard
another podcast undulating noises. Yeah,that's one of those things on this show.
Mark and I slid our way througha scene by scene chapter chapters Wonderful
Guests, and this is chapter thirtyfour. What happens in chapter thirty four

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O'Conner out well as Cyrus points hisgun at the head of a toy rabbit
from Malloy and Larkin arriving their helicopters, with Lloyd give him orders to open
fire. Babo begins to succumb toa gunshot wound that is tended to by
Poem Bishop. When Malloy decides helicoptersmachine guns aren't enough, he helps some
missiles, but look him blocks theshop by demanding his helicopter flying the way.
When Cyrus and Diamond dogs structed withthe helicopters, Poem takes opportunity to

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fight his way to the cockpit,taking out Viking. Conrad and Sally can't
dance along the way, so weneed someone to join us for this.
Now, my former coast I've gotI've got two compos on today, my
former coach on the Lambas joining usfrom the defunct site to these gay patche
who knows it's Robert Zey. Robert, welcome to the show. Thank you.
Yes, yes, defunct, that'sthe right word. I am not

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defunct, though I'm here. I'malways somewhere in the real world. And
thank you, Thank you gentlemen forhaving me. Absolutely yeah. Just turn
around and Robert's right behind you rightnow. Whenever you're listening to this,
just look around and he's there.Say my name three times, and i
gotta tell y'all, I've always wantedto see John Cusack and an Apache helicopter,

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and now I've seen it, andit's wonderful. I wish he said
I Am the greatest, like NickCage did in in a Firebirds. Have
you seen Firebirds? It's a topgun knockoff where Nick Cage is Tom Cruise
and Tommy Lee Jones is like theguy training him, and so they go

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on a mission at the end toblow up some people and there's a training
scene where Nicholas Cage just keeps yellingI am the greatest. It's pretty wonderful.
It's Michael I inside the one traininghim and oh oh that's not good.
Tom Scarett, Tom Scarett, Yeah, so it's it's it's top Gun
with Nicolas Cage to Nilas Cage.Okay, that's that's tucked away in my

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brain somewhere, but I haven't seenit. I mean, it's not worth
it. Okay, it's not.It's not. I've just had to watch
it because if I went through everyNicholas Cage movie and I just did a
Tommy Lee Jones draft, so Ikind of blasted through it again just to
refamiliarize myself with the TLJ work init. It's I don't know, it's
pretty good. But seeing qu Zacin Apache helicopter something I really never thought

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i'd see ever, Like watching Bulletsover Broadway, I never considered it.
I mean, did you really seehim in an Apache because he looked pretty
superimposed in there. Maybe he's ongreen screen, right, he's on a
stage somewhere ducking Yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah. I've mentioned previous chapters,
but I to enjoy just the shotsof the actors and conference we get

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we get another shots of mc gameypretending to fly a plane, which I
just always enjoy the shots, andignoring a radio. Yeah, it's great
to have Cusack just being angry.We're back to angry Cusack and angry Cold
Meany yelling at each other. Justnot in the same room anymore. That's
it's been. It's been like halfa film since we're having an argument,

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and now they're back at it again, separate helicopter screaming at each other.
Yeah. Always Cusack is holding hismic while he's sitting in the helicopter,
like, just holding the little pieceup to his mouth makes some head sometimes
the misties two waiting, Did youno? We had too much of it?

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I got tired of these two yellingat each other. Yeah. Yeah,
but there's a lot there's a lotmore going on in this chapter.
In the past, it's been achapter just of them yelling at each other.
So that at least we have beingstomped on and making his way through
a video game boss levels. Robert, what do you think about Colmeni in

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this movie? So? Uh?Has it come up? Like his Star
Trek work? He's super nice?Yeah? Must I not familiar with it?
Okay? Miles O'Brien I think ishis name. Um, just sounds
nice. I think he was inthe next generation and like Deep Space nine.
I'm not entirely positive he's in thesecond most episodes after the guy who

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played War. I think Michael Dorn. Michael Michael Dorn. Yes, I
think he's in the most episodes.I'm not sure. Yeah, he's great,
Um, but that's uh. Ithink that's the only other thing I
know him from. So it's justit's just like a star trek injection,
uh watching watching him, uh withhis American accent. Um. Yeah,
he's great here though, really playswell off at Cusack. Um, couldn't

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ask for anything more screaming at eachother. Yeah, Cusack isn't really a
screamer? Is he? In othermovies? Do you are there? Other
movies were Qusak screams of People?Maybe in twenty twelve, just because the
world's fallen on him, I'm prettysure he like screams in the rain and
high fidelity at one point. Ohyeah, um m hmm, right top

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of top of mind for me isa gross point blank. We watched that
a few years back. I don'tthink Susie had ever seen it. Um
and uh, but I don't knowif he screams a lot in that or
not. UM is a chill dude. Yeah, and this might be his
coolest role honestly in UM. Andyou know, I I kind of know
why John Cusack didn't like working onthis movie, because like they probably stuffed

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him in a cockpit put a cameraon. I'm just telling me, like,
you know, in a lot somewherein Burbank and just had him yelling
to the camera, like, buthe sells it. He does a good
job. Yeah, I just wantto confirm. Yes, Michael Down's been
in two hundred ninths two episodes ofStar Trek called Mean two hundred and twenty
five. Patrick Stewart two hundred andthirteen so far. Wow, pretty crazy

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to Pats do. Yeah, Patsdo, Pat st case Do Delicious,
Delicious Peace do ye? I likeit? But yeah, so also Viking
in this all right, So inthis chapter when when when Cameron Poe is
gonna show you know, baby oh, that there is a God. The

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craziest thing that Cage has ever saidon screen. Yeah, I'm gonna make
you believe it, Like when hegoes up to make him believe that there's
a god. I'm gonna show youit does exist a bunch of a bunch
of people. But Viking breaks aJack Daniel's bottle and then like it says
some like what what does he say? You little a little b baby?

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Yeah, a freeze, little bitchboy? Yeah, yeah, he calls
him a little little little bitch boy, and then he just gets destroyed.
I think I heard him saying littlebig boy, me too. Okay.
I had to get my DVD outand put on the subtitles to actually hear
what he said. So yeah,once I did that, I was like,

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oh, okay, that's what itwas, because I kept making up
things in my head. It's freezethat I find out, because that's you're
about to have like a one onwife one fight and he's sharing freeze.
That's the kind of thing if youhave like done points or something, as
you say freeze, no a brokenbaby bottle? You know, I gotta
say, though day and an angryan angry Cameron Poe coming at me,

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and I'd be shook too, likeI might say freeze. Yeah, It's
just it's not what you'd expect someoneto say in a situation. I get
it, they're one neat at themoment, I think, yeah, he
takes he takes Viking out with thebunch to the face, neat the chest
and like an elbow to the backof the head and Viking a big guy,

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like the biggest guy is out.He's done. He's gone easily too.
And then Conrad goes down like achump with his giant sweeping gun.
I do love that Nicholas Cage isin the sort of whenever there's a Wikipedia

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page of actors no selling bullets,like he's in it now, like he's
been in this since ninety seven.You have Vin Diesel and Fast and Furious.
The fourth one, he takes abullet in the shoulder and just looks
at a guy. This one hegets shot nothing. Yeah, this is
the least cell of getting shot.I think. I don't. Yeah,

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he doesn't look at the gun orthe bullet or anything. He just doesn't
break stroy it. It's just itmay as well have not happened. Yeah,
Like there's a bigger reaction to ifhe's going some I think it's just
particulars. I love it. Hewalks through a bullet. I'm gonna pitch
something to y'all, so baby hasgot his head up. Baby, I

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was watching Cameron, Baby I destroysViking. Baby, I was like,
that's pretty good. Conrad shoots CameronPoe right in the heart and it never
stops Cameron. Cameron just destroys youknow, Poe camera po Yeah, Poe
just destroys Conrad. After being shotin the heart, climbs up, does
the entire mission, lands a plane, goes on the fire truck, chase

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everything with the bullet gone right throughhim, right through his heart. And
then Baby, I was like,you are you are right? Cameron?
I do? I told you?What would you do? If that was
the movie right there? It wouldbe a prestige level turn at the end
of this is own actually a sciencefiction bill. I mean, it would

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be like one of the Left Behindmovies or something like. It would be
like it's like Kirk Cameron or somethingum in the Cameron Poe role. So
wait, so so cage. SoPoe takes up, Viking takes out,
and then ascends to the heavens.He gets raped, yes, wait after
wait after he saves the day.That's like his I haven't seen any of

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that fun. That's his unfinished business. He finishes his business and ascends I
don't know. He gives his moneyto his daughter and then just gets sucked
up, like and this is theend. Floats away, Goodbye, Casey.
I'll always love you. His whitehis like tank top becomes really clean.
It's just pure white again. He'slike white pants. He wasn't City

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of Angels, Yes, wasn't hein one of like one of the Left
Behind movies or something. He's apilot. He's a pilot in Yeah,
so the Knick Cage Left Behind Universe. This is a prequel to that.
I'm convinced I do. I justI was thinking about that. I'm gonna
make you believe, Like what ifhe does something that's just everybody on the

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plane stops like swamp thing is even, Like that's pretty crazy, man,
Like all the bullets stopped missing theplane. All the bullets just started missing
the plane. Like he closes hiseyes and guides it to like the nearest
airport and the plane just lands toobe fat that far. There's a hedicope
of firing machine gun and it misseseveryone, hits a toilet. It hits
a toilet I have, but itdoesn't hit a single person, very like

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explicitly shows it going around boschemi iswho's just sitting there. It's a great
hero shot, but those bullets wouldtear up that plane like a piece of
like I don't know, like cheese. It would just be like bullets going
through Guda or Swiss. It justpunches holes in the wall it's going through.
But there's a good no cell inthis one. We have someone getting
shot and no selling it. Thenwe have another one with machine gun bullets

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blasting passing with no selling. Yeah, the plane is no selling hip machine.
And also mc gainey is no sellingthe radio. There's a lot of
no selling in this Yeah. Twominutes concentrates. Yeah, so he's not
even dealing with the radio. Yeah. So I don't know if I if
I missed something. But at thestart of this scene, the engine,

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the Starbard engine is already smoking.Did I miss when that got taken out?
Because this is the first attack onthe plane, no other than they
were like shooting handguns at it fromthe ground, aiming for the wheels or
the pilot. Maybe that did it. I mean, maybe that's the only
time I can think of where ithappened. Or maybe there's still sand in

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it. Smashed in the desert.This is just a plume of sand coming
out. It's a deleted scene whereit's sucked somebody up into it. That's
where Pimball, that's the bottom halfof Pimball was. But yeah, there's
two two guys that we are unaccountedfor. One of them is in the
plane engine. To number one isin that plane engine. He didn't make
it, yeah, because we haven'tseen it, because this is the initial

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attack, because he had just turnedaround with the bunny, so it must
have been when they were taken off. Yeah, but they were shooting at
it from the other side though,Jay, remember when they're like shit driver,
it's on the other side. Soit wasn't a bullet. I don't
think that's why. That's why Idon't know what's caused this. It's I
mean, and as it is tonumber one or amiraus that's where they went.
But that's odd. I mean,if it was a devil, yes,

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the devil. Just if it wasa swampthing, it made sense because
he was up on top of theplane at one point. Swampthing accidentally dropped
like a cigarette in there or something. Yeah, as a vengeance for Cyrus
taking his cigarette to blow up.Cindino. That's something I'm gonna hear your
plane. Oh wait, my planetoo. Wait does that bullet go into
his arm? Or does it grazehis arm? Because the shot I'm looking

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at right now? All right,here we go and yeah, that goes
through his arm. Yeah, ifthere's like blood the other side when when
you see him from behind, theblood already there like leak ruizing from a
hole. So it went through.It's not a graze like in most movies.
Oh, it just grazed you.That would have been fun if they

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put it had gone through and hitbaby. Isn't this ironic? Okay?
So there is a god magic bulletthrough me. There's a god and he
hates you. The bullet bounces outof his arm and into baby. Oh
the magic bull. I got apretty good free same here of Nick Cage's

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hair getting shot. It's pretty lovelyby the way. So hey, wait,
Robert, when you were so whenyou when did you watch this movie?
And were you surprised by Nick NicholasCage just being like jacked out his
mind? So I have no memoryof like first watching conn Air. It's
just always been with me. Um, what is this is this like the

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most cut he's ever been, Likeyeah, yeah, okay, basically yeah,
yeah, I would say yeah,but yeah I remember because at ninety
seven, I know if it saysone hundred times. But like he was
like the guarding test guy, likehe was raising Arizona and all of a
sudden, like from the rock.He fitted like he wasn't even the hero
in that. Then you see thismovie and you're like, what's happening?

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Right? My world sort of collapsedupon itself in this movie when Nick Cage
went full action hero, but hemakes it work, and I don't know,
what do you You know? Peoplemake fun of would you mind his
accent? So I was gonna say, would this be a better movie if
he had no accent and was moreof just like center Cage, like more

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of like a good speed kind ofcharacter. I guess what we've never talked
about is does he need the accent? I think Tae yellow ribbon around the
old oak tree. I think theaccent helps distinguish him from Makin because Cusack
doesn't have there's the stereotype of kindof there's the southern Alabama accent being like

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lower class I think compared to Larkinhaving the Chicago area. I think he's
from Cusack and so that that kindof city boy accent makes him sound different
and like superior. Somehow, thisisn't my judgment, this is stereotypical.
I guess I'm trying to offend anyone, so that at that southern Alabama accent

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black foot. Maybe I don't knowwhat if they swapped, What if Nick
Cage had the Chicago accent and JohnCusack had the Alabama accent. No,
I got a drawer before he hadlike crayon like you Joel draw drawl.
Oh god, yeah, I'm talkingabout his sandals and just whenever he comes

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through, like banjo music comes onthis name. But you know what I
think about this accent, much likeRounders with John Malkovich. I think the
reason Rounders has great poker, itwas ahead of its time. But I
think the reason most people talk aboutRounders nowadays is because of Teddy KGB and
just his like John Malkovich's insane Russianaccent. It gave the movie a personality.

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I think if Coneer was just NickCage, you know how many memes
are from this movie, like putthe Bunny Down, Like I think everything.
I think this movie has remained inthe in the consciousness because of the
choices he'd made in this movie withthe Southern accent, like it's memorable and
it's divisive, and you hate itor you love it. You could you

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could say it's actually a good Alabamaaccent, or you could be like,
this is the worst accent I've everheard, but it I think it's helped
keep the movie relevant. I wouldsay this accent, I will for the
accent. I mean, it's it'sthe script, you know has It wasn't
like a choice Cage made. I'massuming you know, it wasn't just a

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regular character and Cage was like theday of He's like, I'm gonna I'm
gonna have an accent. He's fromHe's from Mobile. Um, So,
I mean he could have done youknow, he could have done worse.
He could have It could have beenridiculous. Do you think this was an
Oscar play like he saw Forrest Gump. This is I'm gonna get another Oscar

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was playing Cameron, Yes, Ido. I think he saw Forrest Gump.
And when Forrest won the Oscar ninetyfive, he said to himself,
how can I win again? I'mgonna do this like Tom Hanks go back
to back Oscars. That was hisback to bacle. This is a shore
far thing. Never give back toback oscars. And you know what,

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Tom Tom Hanks was nominated for aHollow thirteen and he was in the air
in a terrible flight. So Ireally believe that Nick Cage was like okay
Forrest Gump plus a Paul Levin andhe was just trying to get back time
to his wife. Yes, yeah, it's the same it's the same film,
same film, that same film,I would say, so. I

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mean, I kind of wish BillPaxton and Kevin Bacon were in this movie
and Ed Harris waited Garrison aasan aQ starck Row and Harrison the comani Row.
Whould Kevin Bacon by Bushey? WHOA, that would be good? What
about Billy packs bed like Baxton?Yeah, yeah, it works, better

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works or even virus even suckers back. And then what about the other Howard
Clint Howard um any Well, couldn'tHoward played the bruchemi row in that train
kind of semi sequel, I can'treally name it right now. So floating

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movie quotes all the way through soall right, so we got him.
Who else is in this movie SteelTrain? We got Kathleen Quinn Lynn.
Uh yeah, as I mean she'sHanks his wife and she so we could
just give her them on a capotarole. And they have Xander Berkeley in
here. And Chris Ellis just likecharacter actor's delight. Yeah, Chris Ellis

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is another one who could do Ithink, I know, I think Chris
elliott Is that is a different guy. Chris Elliot from Cabin Boy could do
a Steve BRUSHEMI I think so well, Chris. Chris Ellis is much more
of a Skip Deva's kind of room. Yeah, exactly. I want to
see this movie now, Apollo.I don't know where where Skip Devas is

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in this scene? Did he hada third job with his re lagging behind?
He's just not the helicopter right,like there's two of the big boys.
Yeah, how did they get becausethe next time we see him is
when he's like helping he's helping toshaking off the helicopter in Vegas. So
he's like gone to it's on aseparate mission, not knowing how this one's
gonna end, making some wild assumptions. I was gonna get He just disappears

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completely. This gives us something tothink about. Jay, it doesn't need,
it doesn't need. We should talkabout this. We should talk about
I dedicate an episode to it.Is that what you're saying? Yeah?
Sure, I like how all allof the cons you see them all,
all the ones that are on theplane, you see them all in this
scene. So we have we havetwelve or twelve cons in yeah, this

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point, So Johnny twenty three,still strung up, get cuffed, mobile,
don Rad, Viking, Saldican,dance right and take out in the
cockpit, Uh, Cyrus, DiamondDog, Blaze Loss, all the ones
that grabbed the weapons and heads tothe back, baby O bleeding out Green

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You just kind of sitting there,and we have twelve and we see them
all, even if briefly, allglimpses. I like it. But Robert,
you're gonna help us out. Now. We have a mission on this
show, which is every time acompic dies, we need to work out
what it is they do, what'slike? What is they did? We
got them in prison. Now,Conrad does not die in this scene,

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because we do. We see himbriefly buckling into crash but then we never
see him again. So but that'slike a brief glimpse. So I think
this is the public chapter to workout what a conrade to the guy with
a gun? What do you reckon? Conrad's crime was? This is the
this is he? This is theguy that shoots cage? Yes, yes,
yes, is there a crime forbeing a terrible shot? I mean

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he does hit the target, butthe army standing in front of him,
I'm assuming he was like the gunguy and a robbery maybe and totally at
it up and got caught. Well, we have to this is the plane
of the worst of the worst.So I'm gonna say I'll robbery not enough,

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not enough ms. He seems likeone of the worst ones. He's
spinning beer on the police officers.Yes, he mean, he could have
just been robbery, and then oncehe was in prison, it was just
an awesome to everyone the whole tel. I'm pounding his sentence. I like
that you said he's a bad shot. Maybe he missed his target and like

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hit something like way worse and thenjust blew blew a ton of stuff up.
Yeah, yeah, I like makinghim an idiot just because he's not
a good guy. Horrible, horriblehuman. So I think maybe he just
goes to shoot something. Maybe hewent to go shoot a tire out.
Maybe he was trying to shoot outhis own tires because he was drunk one

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night and hit a propane tank andcaused like the entire place to go up.
Okay, yeah, yeah, Butthen he lied because he was too
embarrassed to tell the truth about it, so he lied and said he just
did it. I'm trying to thinkof like what he could have hit.
But if my mind is going tolike two darker places, I mean,
this is a play with going greenand starrus a virus, and you can't
get a two dalky place, andje as dark as it goes, we've

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probably gone. Talk did you likehit hit like the leg of a water
tower with something and then it fallsdown and then crushes everyone. But then
the water goes and hits an electricalgrid and then blows up and then just
unearthed some creatures that mall an entiretrailer park and then just just chaos for

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three counties and it's all on Conrad. Yeah, less a kite, you,
yes, And just because he missedone bullet. But he's too much
of an idio to admit that youknow he did that by accident. He's
like, yeah, I did it. I at least to kaid you perfect.

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I'm pimpled out. He raised toKaijud It's in the spreadsheet. It's
a fisher. Imagine that though,Like you both are just interrogation rooms,
Like did you unleash Kaide? Youlike, no, yeah, you're right.
If we have evidence, you wouldright at its feet? Did you
start the chain of events that ledto since it was released? And I

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would just be like, how isthat my fault? I didn't know what
Kaiju was underneath this place, likeI didn't existed. This changes everything I
know about humanity. Like before today, I didn't think there were monsters,
and now there's an ancient being beneaththe crust of the earth that exploded through
and destroyed three counties. We needto build giant ro bolsters. The other

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way get the walls built, calledCharlie hunum. Is this tied into the
like theological I'm gonna show you thatGod does exist. It's like like the
old the Elder gods and stuff oldzelon. Wait, so Nicholas Cage gets

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shot, survives the whole thing theyland the plane, but somehow they on
earth a Kaiju that rises out ofthe earth and baby, I was just
like, wow, he did it. I believe Stop. I believe you
stop it still perfecting. Stop.I like what you said about it just

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comes from the water? Oh man? Yeah? Or like what's the what's
the one colossal where like Anne Hathawaylike is the is the Kaiju? Oh?
I love that movie. Oh that'swhat was so good? And then
Jason Sadakis That's probably one of myfavorite roles of his. He's menaced scene
in that movie. It's a mediarole for him. Yeah, it's a

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good point. It's a media roll, nice turn. He's like the nice
guy. Who I'm the nice guy? No, But Kaiju's fight I wish?
Yeah? Is there like a Nickcage Cameron Poe kaid you like this
whole fight is playing out? Whatkaid you look like? Robert m My
mind went to, like, what'slike the state bird of Alabama or something?

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A state bird of the state birdof Alabama. It is the northern
flicker. The northern flicker common flickeris a medium sized bird of the woodpecker
family. It is native to mostof the North America, parts of Central
America, Cuba, in the CaymanIslands. It is one of the few
woodpecker species that migrate. Woodpecker kaiju. Can you imagine like a woodpecker like

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motion happening on that scale da andit can fly over and it could just
it could destroy everything, like woodpeckersare beasts well, and the state mammal
is an American black bear, alsothe West Indian manatee. I'm here for

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the kaiju being a giant manitye.Does the chill a chill kaij? You
hang it out? Ye see cow? You know what's crazy? That would
be perfect. So let's say you'rea murderous kaid. You ja like,
you don't want to look like themonster from Colossal. You don't want to
look like Godzilla. You want tolook like the nice creatures from Galaxy Quest

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but times eight thousand, Like youwant to be a manatee in the ocean
pivot. Oh my gosh, it'sa manatee. Let's go pettit and you
just eat a boat. It's amantee the size of a boat. And
you just but like people like,let's go pettit. You're like, here
they come together. I remember beingin like a Barnes and Noble um sort

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of been Gainesville Mark, I think, um, and it was like a
Florida Local Florida section and somebody hadwritten a manatee horror story. It was
like a mutant manatee trigger triggered thatmemory. Um, if that's a film,
will cover on t the podcast.I need to read this. Yeah,
I gotta track it down now.We also have a skunkcape in Florida.

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Like, we have enough creatures inFlorida to not you don't need to
mutate anything. Yeah. True.I remember one time a water moccason swam
within a foot from me just Iwas in the water. I was in
a spring, as one does inFlorida, and it just swims past me.
It doesn't come at me, Itjust swam right past me. It
wasn't really worried about me. Butthat was probably one of the scaredest I've

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ever been. Robert, see thatwater moccasin swim right past me. I
think back sometimes because we grew upacross the street from the Swannee Um,
and like I was like more Um, I had more like free rain as
a child than my kids will everhave. Like I could just take the

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canoe with a friend and go outin the river and we would go back
into the woods and like alligators wouldbe sort of out there with us,
and like one time there was adead cow carcass just like floating. It
was. It was like the wildWest, and my parents just let us
do it. I remember one timeat least a twelve foot alligator went underneath
my canoe. And one time mydaddo thought it would be funny to steer

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me into the shore where there werea bunch of alligators and he just steered
me into about three of them andthey just jumped out of the way with
me in the front seat of acanoe, and he's like, you'll be
fine. That was a flex.Yeah, I don't think I've ever been
the same. I do remember,yeah, you know. I learned how

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to catch pythons for a documentary.I went down to the Everglades and I
went through a thing at a firedepartment. I did a documentary about the
Everglades down there when I was ingrad schoo and I went down to this
fire department and they have a trainingsession where you catch pythons. So they
put a python out you put aglove on. You have to catch a
few of them. They had ananaconda that apparently it was like a real

(31:10):
jerk and they wouldn't take that oneout because he kept biting the person who
would bring it, which makes mehappy. And like I think he even
said he's like that anacondas just areal jerk. But yeah, so I
had to catch the pythons. Butthen when you pick them up, they
just poop everywhere. So it's goodto know for y'all, it's a good
self defense mechanism. Were doing apodcast on Conner and Not Your Life.

(31:33):
It's fun. Is this for?Like the population control of pythons down there?
Is that what that is? Yeah? And like you know, so
all these reports were like the pythonsare taken over, the pythons are taken
over. So me and some friendswere like, let's go see if they
are. So we took it.We booked, Yeah, we took we
you know, we booked. Wemet some guys who they were really cool.

(31:53):
But it's crazy. A month inadvanced they were gonna take us on
this eight mile hike. We weregonna go on all these easy spots,
but then National Geographic got ahold ofthem, and then they went to go
work with them, so we hadto bail. So we found this guy
with an airboat who took us aroundand he was like, we were like
really close to gators, and thenwe came across this place where they were

(32:14):
training to catch pythons, and thenwe just went on our own trying to
film them. So it's that wasour documentary. And I mean we went
on an actual hunt with about eightairboats hunting for him, and they just
found a little one. So atthe time we didn't find too many,
but I guess now they're really spawningout there. If you haven't, I
think it's on Peacock here in theStates. I don't know if you have

(32:36):
that Jay at all or whatever theadjacent streaming service would be. I think
it's Peacock NBC Killing. It wasa really solid show and it revolves around
It's like Craig Robinson from the Officeand it's it revolves around killing, like
Python killing in Florida, and itwas I think it was from the team

(32:59):
behind or some of the team atleast behind Brooklyn nine nine, So really
funny and weird, and Craig Robinsonwas in it Um and I'm Claudio Dardy.
Anyone familiar with her Australian anyway,that was a solid, solid show.
Oh, I gotta watch this downit has not I don't think so

(33:20):
I can't see it streaming anyway.It was like February. I think it
was streaming February March last year becauseit was Colin has just been born.
So I was like binging that.It was really solid. I need to
watch this because people do go Peopledo go out and catch them like they've
learned. Like people go put GPSis on possums because they know they're gonna
get eaten. Then they follow theGPS tracker back to a nest and then
get paid a ton of money forfund They just found like a record breaking

(33:42):
nest m and they filmed the foxfighting a giant python. I was like,
get oh there, fox, don'tdie. I don't let that stupid
snake kill you. This is abunch of stuff. I won't be telling
my wife, but you can.You can snap the python's neck pretty easily.
M it's all neck. It's allneck, Yeah, the top of
their spine when they goes up,you can just yeah, like not like

(34:05):
not like a like a thing oflike Clareton or something when you're just popping
open some medicine, like but yougot you know, you gotta do that,
but swatch out for the poop.But speaking of reptiles, there's a
guy in this chapter called Gator.Gator did it so we have speaking of
gators, Robert, you're back inFlorida, No so so q Sacks playing

(34:28):
it. John Marshall Jones, wholooking at his IMDb has I feel like
I recognize him from like moads ofthings, And then I scored on his
IMDb and I've seen him in practicallynothing, but he has what has resting
sitcom principal face. But he justlooks like a kind of guy who would
be that kind of a role ina and he has had that kind of

(34:50):
role in a bunch of He's beenlots of it, all roles here and
there. He's got a very smallrolling in A Good Morning Vietnam, which
could be where I recognize it from. I don't know. I've seen nothing
else he's been in. But Ilike his reluctant helicopter pilot being told to
fly his helicopter in the way ofa missile and it's just like and doing
it. You know, he doesn'twant it, but he does anyway.

(35:13):
I like, I like this guy. Yeah, he's like, oh man,
and then he does it. Yeah, he's good. I mean classic
Bruckheimer, right, bringing a goodcharacter actor to give one line, but
he sells it in that that thatparking lot in Burbank. He nails it.
He does, he doesn't. I'mnot sure who played me. Malloy's

(35:34):
how you find him? He seemsunnamed. You know the problem with Gator
is when I was doing the Connieor seeding chart, I saw Gator and
I'm like, oh, okay,he's one of the criminals. Yeah,
it sounds like a coun Yeah.And then I really I watched the movie.
I'm like, no, gators apilot, so it's guy because we
have like Boom Goose is one ofthe couns. So sounds what he could.
Yeah, And that kind of threwme off because then I started looking
for him. I'm like, where'sGator? I never find that. I

(35:58):
had the same thing when we weretrying to identify the three cons who got
off the plane at Carson City,who weren't three who was supposed to get
off. I definitely trying to trackthem down and he wasn't one of them.
Mhm yeah, gator, gator,Yeah, because he's he said he
said, I mean he said,Okay, you said Chris Ellis was in

(36:21):
Poto thirteen. Chriss is already inConneth. He's a guy who came and
got treasuring. Oh wow, Irecognize that. Think, oh wow,
all right, well that's easy.That makes our job easy. Yep,
done and done easy. Easy.What do you think about the slap on

(36:42):
Sally can dance? So? Iliked that he switched from punch to slap.
It's like pretty respectful if you thinkabout it. Yeah, because he
just destroyed Viking, and I meanSally's not trying to really hurt him like
those other guys shot him and tryingto stab him with a beer bottle.
I think Cameron gives you an appropriatelike he does what it's appropriate in this
situation. I think I like thatshe just springs out in nowhere, like

(37:07):
she's kind of hiding behind very thinrailings and he's wearing a purple dress,
so it's not like she can't beseen. She just like stopping on his
back and then kind of makes halfheart to attempt to take a little bit,
but he just kind of he literallyjust shrugs her off. She slides
off of his shoulder because it's it'sit's so slick and so rounded, there's

(37:30):
nothing to grab hold of her.Yeah, they say, a longer fight
goes on, it's harder to keepsomebody on the ground or submit them because
all the sweat. So he mustbe a nightmare right now, Jay,
Yeah, he's been sweating the sometimeand blood on his arm. Can't get
that arm, Yes, that's true. Yeah, blood, sweat, hair,
grease, insulin. You could justhug him and he would slip out

(37:52):
of your arms like he would shootin the air. That's how slippery he
is right now. But I thinkSally's smart though, Jay, because Sally
lives, and so Sally isn't tryingto kill Cameron. It's like not trying
to stabberd do that. This getshit probably goes and buckles up. So
well, that's that's future chapter.The buckling up we'll discuss later some other

(38:14):
week. Is here will happen?Yeah, yeah, she is. I
mean Viking lives as well. Definitivelywe see them get arrested. Conrad we
don't know. He could still beout there. Conrad's trouble. Yeah,
he raises Kaiju. He does yougotta taste for it? Did it wants

(38:35):
accidentally end? I could do thisfor fun, like you know, and
mister Glass and Unbreakable. He blowsthings up like hoping for a like a
superpowered human being like Conrad just goesaround doing the same thing, hoping Kaiju
will come up. Just just shootingWater's house across the country. Come on,
see what happens is the watertaller fallsand that hits things and then the

(38:59):
water gets into stuff like He's like, you don't get it, y'all?
Yeah, I like it. Hepretends like he's an eco terrorist, but
he's actually just looking for Kaiju.H How do you how do you rate
bishops the state skills? Pope.Pope praises her hands on Babio's chest and

(39:22):
she gets canna arrest. Something doesn'trage for much pressure. So you're really
supposed to put your hands on thatuntil it hurts, like you're they're supposed
to go owl like, yeah,maybe she just doesn't like Debio. I
mean, yeah, they've been chatIt was just the two of them in
the plane for ages, so maybeshe's just sick of them. At this
point. This guy just complains allthe time sweat and now we do his

(39:44):
bleed. Keep your throws inside man, sweat bleed, sweat bleed. Ah.
So yeah, I made made anote like if y'all wanted like commentary
from like clinical OCD, Like thetoilet gets shot. That's a very prominent
like I just think like, oh, like and um, the first aid

(40:06):
the hand, he just like grabsher hand, puts it on there,
and I'm just like, oh,you gotta you gotta tell somebody first.
Yeah. Yeah, well so maybeI was going for the some an alcohol
to like senitize with and then ifI can gives them smashes the bottle.
Oh that's why he punches him out. That's what he was doing. Fucking

(40:28):
would be like, wait, Iwon't break the bottle, take it and
he just hides brother. Yeah,I mean, she's her hands are on
there, And I gotta say,Danny trey Hoe must have hated working on
this movie. All right, Danny, today you're gonna go on set and
just hang out here in the background. You're at handcuffed the cage again.
Weekend before and this is ninety seventray hole. This is from Dustill Dawn

(40:52):
Desperado heat Like, this isn't ninetythree tray hole. So this I don't
know. I wouldn't have been abig fan of that. I mean,
he's getting paid, that's true.I guess you didn't paid the hand.
Yeah, that's a good point.Wait where did Sally come from. She's
out there, she's up on theratings, so she like watches like King

(41:13):
and Conrad get taken out and stilldecides to attack the score point with the
other people. I guess, yeah, maybe she she didn't know which ways
is going to go, So there'sthe case that that code doesn't make it
somehow. Then she's like, Itry, I tried, Cyrus, I'm
still I'm a good person. HelpI help. That's what I do.

(41:36):
That's if I was. If Iwas a henchman in any situation, I
would always make the most half heartedLike John Wick. No, he would
kill you. He double shots everybody. He would kill Like if you think,
yeah, he just he shoots you, then shoot you in the head
if you go at him, evenif you're unarmed. I would just let
John Wick walk by. But ifI was another like, I don't know,
if I was dealing with James Bond, I would be an unarmed asailant

(42:00):
attacking him. Yeah, yeah,I see it. Just incapacitate definitely.
But yeah, like like the guardsare all kind of chain up. They're
not fearing, They're trying to stopPiewall. I'm trying to help all hinder
what's gonna happen there? And there'sthey're they're all handcuffs. What can they
do? That's these always foul oget in there. We're nearing the end

(42:21):
of this film. Mm hm.This is a weird chapter, j because
a lot happens, but not alot happens. Yeah, that's gonna be
the same thing for the next twowomen. Forty chapters. Was too many
chapters? Yeah, I think Yeah, But listen, Jay, it's not
about the chapters. It's about thefriendships outside of this chapter, any any

(42:46):
of the highlights from Kinna, anythingelse you love in this film. The
best part for me is the Malkovich, you know, brought a gun to
a helicopter fight. That's just apretty cool sequence, Like no fear shooting
at the helicopters. Yeah, it'sa smoke gun. It's not it's he

(43:07):
manages to hit with breakasty, thenthey hitting the people inside the plane.
Pick a tog out. Guess yeah, I don't that. He's just got
this little handgun helicopter with the machine. I think that's important though. It's
kind of like ride or Die,like it shows that when it hits,
like he'll just start shooting at ahelicopter. Yeah, that's a good scene.

(43:29):
Really, we should be having bullslate him for this chapter. The
helicopter should be here, but it'snot the case, so we're stuck with
robot. You know, what shouldhappen? What should happen? All right,
So he shoots the propeller colem andhe goes to eject, but he
gets hit in the propellers and hejust gets cubed like Kravitz and shotgun wedding.

(43:54):
The helicopter crashes, opens a fissure, and the earth kaiju just like
do random kaiju in the mood?Just another one one are the odds we
play? Cyrus just goes all right? Yeah, more films do need to

(44:17):
end with just a fish or openingup in kaiju and that's that's the film,
Like the end of the World.These like imagine at the end of
Home Alone or something in the backyardwhen all the parents come hopen in the
backyard alls on, something opens ablue light and steam comes out and just
goes to blank like that's it,and you're like, wait, doing a

(44:38):
giant Kaiju screaming with a trunchar onhis face. Is Kevin gonna battle crawlers?
From the descent? I'm alone too? Uprising? He puts like a
he makes like a giant roller rollerblade a roller skate, and Godzilla steps
on it. Like so it wouldit be like a bunch of all the

(45:00):
East dropped together or something. Itwould be like real cars, like instead
of micromachines, just real cars thatyou step on it. Yes, oh
man, that's perfect. Yeah,this real cars. He sets that up.
Giant paint cans like he has ShermanWilliams make just just a comically large

(45:22):
paint can, but like a toolchest pointing down the stairs, still the
same size. It's gonna bounces offof the colors to destruction, all right,
Kevin vers Kaiju Home Alone three?This holiday season. It's holidays.
I mean they make tons of likeGodzilla movies make money. Home Alone.

(45:45):
I wish that's how Hollywood worked,like, Hey, what's going on.
What's the biggest movie in ninety one? Ninety two? T two, what's
the biggest movie in uh ninety four? Lion King? Okay, Lion King
Terminator? Like just that's that's howmovies get made. It's a baby means
Ghostbusters its ghost. Yeah it was, but the baby the baby becomes a

(46:07):
ghost. Oh god, okay,so he's have to play a baby ghost.
Every year we take the best,the biggest movie in the last two
years, and we make a movieout of it. To split the script
in half and then put them together. Let's just do it so we would
have a vengerous endgame Maverick, Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know

(46:32):
what I mean. Away was thebiggest one in twenty twenty, then Tenant
like bad Boys for Life, BadBoys for Life? Any game? Yeah
yeah, so Will Smith, MarkLawrence and the crew battle thanos M and
they just get bubble Issious and Skittles. They replace the Infinity Gauntlet stones with

(46:55):
Skittles. Movie. So, Imean worldwide, the twenty twenty highest scressing
film was Demon Slayer Kimmitts who NoJava. The movie Mogan Train from Japan
but looking at wide released English inwhich films. Bad Boys for Life was

(47:15):
the highest grossing, followed by Tenetsof the headgehold, all right, so
it's four and there. So yeah, Bad Boys for Life meets Avengers Endgame.
Just the biggest movie of each yearmeets Think twenty twenty one would have
been Spider Man, No Way Home. So we've been Spider Man, No
Way Home. Whoa Spider Maverick.It's like three time cruises running around.

(47:42):
That's three twenty all the time cruisesfrom all the movies. It's just it's
it's uh um, what's the runningfilm? God, damn it the running
film? Yeah, the one,the one best picture that they hate it?
Yes, as a fire with allTom's a joke in my head,

(48:02):
but I couldn't think of the nameof the film out of this episode.
I mean, listen, deep faketechnology could take care of that. I'd
rather see it like Spider Schools TopSpider, Like, yes, yeah,
I learned to be learned to beSpider Man. Wait, both of them
have the nickname Spider's pretty confusing.They're all the same world and Naverick has

(48:23):
to train them to go on amission, but they can't use their spider
webs because the enemies have spider sense, so they have to get in airplanes
and not use their spider sense.The spiders, oh fly, so they
have to get in jets. Yeah, and then they have to drill something

(48:44):
in space. Yeah, just justthrow an armageddon. It's easy to train
spiders how to drill, to trains, how to shoot webs from their ben
Affleck has to do the commentary justa couple of reason. Wait so wait,

(49:10):
wait, Top what you said,Robert, what was it? What's
our movie? Called Top Spider TopSpider Armageddon and called back to Top Spider,
I what this movie? So?I mean it would be like Toby
maguire, right, I mean likeyeah, he would be the elder like

(49:31):
Maverick. Kirsten Dunst is there,and then La La Land is in it.
I forget her name Stone, EmmaStone, and then Zandia. I
try to think I could have swornthere was a character and took uncot Spider
is Slider Slider, Top Slider Man, get this to Grace and top Gun

(49:59):
Maverick toef for Grace has that role. I mean, I don't think he's
gonna do it as well as Gunpoundered. Yeah, gunples great Yeah, he's
too busy. They're like cutting allthe Hobbit movies into like one twenty minute
episode or whatever it is. He'sdoing. The TOEF for Grace cut is
a thing now, Yeah, giveus the toe for Grace cut? What

(50:22):
the toef for Grace cut? Lookat this real quick, Jay and Robert
Grace cut of Cornett? Yeah,ah what so what what's supernaturs? What's
unnecessary in Connette? John cust Yeah, it would just be I could really
concentrate his Oh I mean I'm notsure of this. No little girl,

(50:47):
no beginning, him going too prison, like he's just leaving prison. I
don't know. He's on the plane. Yeah, he's on the plane.
On the plane, you can getthe breakout, everybody concentrated breakout of just
like pinball through in a mattress.Uh, then all of Carson City,

(51:07):
all of lewn around field. Soit's just it's on the plane to this
thin where it makes a break forthe cockpit and then then horses the plane
to correction in to Vegas. Basically, no fire truck chase. Now we
just toe for Grace con here infinitelyfifteen minutes. It's a quibbie. I

(51:30):
wish you would see Jay's face here. Jay is very bitter talking about this
the Toe for Grace cut of thismovie, and I love it. Yeah,
I mean I like this Stars prequels, so I don't want that.
I forgot that like most of thosefilms. Ninety nine, I was working
in a theater and I remember justgrowing people walking out of the theater going

(51:52):
my life is wrecked. Like Iwas like, it's not that bad,
like I was seventeen, Like it'sa Fantom minute. It's cool. There's
like a Darth Maul, he's alightsaber. There's a see was my first
film. I like to attack ofthe cool battle at the end when the
Stormtroopers or just walking into the CloneTroopers or just walking into battle like there's
enough there to like. My secondsthough was film I like to thought Star

(52:14):
Wars film was measure to sit.I like it that much, dude,
talk the young. I do thinkI have a memory of like my dad
taking us to see Phantom Menace andhim being like depressed after my dad has
never seen a star war, sothat would not ah a star War,

(52:37):
go see a star War. Ithink we've exhausted this job. Yeah,
Robert, anyone notes on this sceneof the film as all. No,
I mean, I got to workin my SCD talk so ALA's happy to
hear it. We talk Kiju inFlorida too, Like that's great. Yeah,
perfect episode due this job to makeyou believe it's a god. I

(53:04):
don't know. Uh great, we'llrob We'll go to pluck. Uh.
Yeah, everything is defunct. Imean, I um, if you if
you want to read something I wrote, I've finally gotten something kind of published
and it's on horror tree dot com. If you go to my Twitter,
it's pinned at zerbert is my Twitteraccount. So but anything movie related is

(53:29):
just gone. It's like speaking ofThanas just blipped away. Um except for
except for Twitter. I'll just randompeople exist anymore that still exists. I
did just re up that, Ithink. Okay, Um, it's like
a star ten dollars a year umto host that, I think. So

(53:52):
that's good to go. I don'tknow what and movies for all. I
don't know this. Actually I meantto get some commentary live commentary from Susan
on the beginning of Top of Topof conn Air Um, where he's being
sentenced music because you're a lethal weaponyou're not allowed to. You don't have
the same the laws don't apply toyou. And it's like, oh man,

(54:12):
I gotta have seriously just like blindwatch this, but I didn't.
I forgot because we we had Seanhome Rink, a different lawyer on for
that chapter. And yeah, nota thing. Thank you. I'm glad
you've almost thought about it, sothat makes me happy. I'm glad that
you considered it and then just letit go. I mean, that's enough

(54:34):
for me. Actually, maybe somedaywe'll email it to you. Jay.
It's gonna be a few weeks beforethis this goes up, so if you
want to record something the next month, send over I get in, you'll
be seeing it. You'll just seein like a couple of weeks, like
a new episode of in movies forall, just like idea for me.
Do it great? Well, I'veforgot to mention something in the script in

(54:59):
this I'm a dog not at theback of the plane shooting. He's actually
amongst the line of poles being takenout by Poe. So the script has
the line diamond dog sucks floors.That's just phrase I enjoyed. After Poe
takes them out and at one linefrom Alloyd the gold cut time to be
a man, a lot kin,scrap a hog on and let's start fan.

(55:24):
He didn't need that line anyway anyplas. Yeah, fandom I got
I should have a video about thebest Chris that's out. So if you
go to fandom by the Numbers dida thing about the best Chris. I
wrote in a Fast and Furious onetoo, so that'll be coming out soon.
Oh, I got a couple ofvideos coming out for film theory.
I should have a I don't knowJohn Wick one, and there's a couple

(55:47):
more. Another one for game theory. Oh and read my vin Diesel sleeve
a shirt data. So that wasthat helped push my movie Songs of Flixs
podcast onto the all time best sellinglist on iTunes Apple Podcasts. So if
you go to film History and lookup all time best selling Film History podcast,
movie songs and flixes there now Ienjoyed. There's a fantastic post about

(56:09):
the Diesels sleeper shirts and how thataffects films. I realized the comments that
people leave on Reddit posts. It'sReddit. It's not a site I normally
frequent, as I thought I'd diginto it more and just read some of
them, and somebody momented like thisis proof that corroation does not equal causation,
Like the English shirts don't don't adoptWhy these films make money. It's

(56:30):
like, yeah, it's a dumbdata Yeah, and I call it that.
In the beginning, I'm like,this is dumb and random. It's
meant to be fun. And thenthey're like this, doesn't you have too
much free time? Like, somebodyget all my paid jobs. I like
how people people get annoyed at they'vedone for fun. It's pretty good.
Why why did people dedicating forty episodeof podcast corne They can be out saving

(56:51):
the rain for us? Okay,true, but no I can't. No
one's saving the rain for us.It's too deforested. There's there's too there's
too much money. Anyway I canstrap myself to a tree. That wouldn't
do any good. No, we'renot going to become equal terrorists right now,
Jay that we're not. Absolutely,although we could. We'd fit into
a Brooklymer film, which we did. If we could raise kidgues, we
could. Yeah, absolutely, wewould bring them to blunt trees. Anyway.

(57:15):
You can listen to Mark and Iover on Deep to See the podcast.
We covered Deep See Adjacent Films andDeep se Tru Seen by Scene.
Robert was on there for a bunchof scenes. He holped us talk about
the Epist Bluist music video at theend of Deep Cy and Bunch of Dogs.
Yeah, and you can find mehosting Lampardy over on the Lambcast once
a month movie trivia based on Jeopardy. Been been semi finalists in the past

(57:38):
couple of years. It's a wonderfuljob on there. Robert gallantly bowed out,
so let's a lady go into thefinal. It was thrashing him anyway.
So and my personals slates Life FistFilm dot com. Nothing much happens
there. You can follow the podcaston Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter,
Acts on Air part or emails Cornairpodcast act dot com. I have four

(58:02):
chapter thirty four of Come on Here. Thank you once again to our guess
Roberts Evie. Yeah, thank youguys for having me. I've been Jakla
and I'm come back next week orthe Bunny gets it sigh. Anara