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it's funny. I've got a neighbor across the street and
I've been lately spending a lot of time talking to
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we're kind of kind of becoming like a barter type thing,
and he's kind of a mechanic type. So that there
you go when it comes to me, because my joke
has been that if it has water running through it,
electricity running through it, or has a motor, I'm probably
not going to be able to fix it. That actually
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knocks off a lot of items. But if it's like
putting up a wall or you know, things like that,
I figured it out. I can do it. But anyway,
so I had got a jeep wrangler four by four
and it got stuck in low full wheel drive, and
so he so I drove it down to his place
and he put it up on this rack and I mean,
the thing was above our heads and he's like, oh,
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you know this slipped out and you know it's all worn.
You need to replace it. And we got to talked
and we never really had a chance to talk before.
And his his response was but what he basically said
to me was uh, because he knows I'm into the
Constitution and he and he likes to use the word
constitutional scholar, which is consto caller. I guess a scholar
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is somebody who's heavily on something, very educated whatever. I
guess I'll take constitutional scholar. I've never liked using that term,
but we can use it. And he says to me,
I don't understand how any constitutional scholar can make excuses
for an authoritarian regime. I think that pretty much for
you now will sum up the rest of our conversation.
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And so I've written some articles, the last two articles
based on my conversations with him, and I'm gonna send
links out onto the uh, you know, on the radio
page again. But but you know, it's fascinating because I
like talking about people like him, because you don't always
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know the arguments of the other side. I wrote an
article sanctuary illusion, because sanctuary cities sanctuary. I understand what
they're trying to do and all of that from my
point of view, what damage is causing. But then he
used an argument I hadn't used before. Oh, sanctuary cities
is because if we allow law enforcement to have to
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communicate and with the ice and all that, they wind
up doing the work of the federal government. We don't
have the resources that cost too much for us to
be rounding up illegal aliens when it's the federal government's job.
I had not heard that one before, and I thought
to myself. Well, gosh, you know, it's not necessarily it,
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you know, And so I wrote the article. The reason
I bring that up is because then they got to
think about other things. For today's what else are we
being told or is believed by the side that just
isn't true. And now we're getting when it comes to
what's going on in Israel and Iran. And I've had
these conversations a lot lately because you have you got
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Israel and Iran now trading missiles and the United States
helped Israel with the defense of Israel, the shooting incoming
missiles out of this guy. And now we've got a
question here. Iran is poised to create a nuclear weapon.
We know what that regime will do if they have one,
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they'll use it. And so the idea is here, we've
got to stop them. And Masad has been operating inside Iran,
and Israel had intelligence that basically said that Iran had
gotten to the point where they were about two weeks away,
maybe a week away from finally getting it done. And
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they've been talking to Trump all along, President Trump, and
you know, preparing for this, and they've gone in and
they've hit these facilities and not only they're not necessarily
hitting the nuclear facilities, but they're they are hitting the
Iran's ability to deliver the weapon, So the missile systems
are being hit, so on and so forth. When it
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comes to these nuclear facilities, you want to be careful
because you don't want to create a nuclear or radioactive
accident and all that. So you got to work around
it and and you know the power that goes to
the facility. Whatever you have to, you know, play that game.
And one of those facilities is about three hundred plus
feet underground, just about sixty miles outside of Tehran. And
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while Israel is their precision striking is unbelievable and they've
knocked out Iran's defenses. So Israel is able to you know,
you know, pick apart and do whatever they want. That
they own the skies now over Iran. But the thing
is the final, the final puzzle piece, is that that
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one facility that's underground taking it out is Israel doesn't
have the technology, the weaponry that we have that could
take it out. We do. We have the bunker Busters.
The bunker Buster is designed to go underground about up
to two hundred feet and then detonate underground. This is
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what was used to go after Osama bin Laden and
hit one of those bunker busts that clapsed all the tunnels.
He was, you know, he was basically under it all
when it came down. That's how we got him. Then
we fished out his body later. We have this technology
that nobody else really has, and it's and then if
you send two of these bombs back to back, the
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first one goes in two hundred you know, and and
and blasts, and then you have another one through GPS guidance,
go right into that hole. Now it's going to go
another one hundred feet or more and then it explodes.
So you can. So this facility is three hundred and
more feet underground, it's reachable, it's doable to not only
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get two, but maybe even to clapse everything around it.
So now the question is does the United States get
involved in that manner? I know a lot of my
left e like my neighbor, Well, we're already involved. We're
already at war because we helped Israel. Well we helped
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them defend themselves, but we haven't gotten into the offensive
part per se yet. I mean, we're always involved in things,
and that's just the way it is in this world.
But the question is do we does President Trump take
that next action, and he's say, hey, he ran on
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being a peacemaker, he ran on ending war, but let's
have some common sense here. It cracks me up because
when it comes to the left, when it comes to
the people out there, it's either one or the other,
whether you're a warmonger or you're a peacemaker. Well, you've
gotta And my wife laughs because I use this word
so much, but it's so it's so important. You got
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to find the balance.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes, you need to be able to defend yourself, but
at the same time, you don't want never ending wars.
You don't want boots on the ground, especially when our
direct interests are not involved. Now we have a treat
we have treaties with Israel has been our best ally,
and we do have direct interest in that area because
of a number of reasons, not just stability of the
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region and Islam, but also there's oil and all kinds
of other issues that are involved. Good bad are in between.
It's all important and it all directly influences us. But
we saw in Iraq. We you know, most Americans did
not like the fact that boots were on the ground,
and the boots are on the ground very long. They
believe that we were lied to about the weapons of
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mass destruction. I'm here to tell you that was not
a lie. They had weapons mass destruction, but we sat
here and telegraphed it. We telegraphed we were coming, and
they move those weapons mass destruction. And I've got books
and images about, you know, showing the movement of these
weapons from Iraq to Syria. Oh, you got a telegraphing
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attack us because the weapons master destruction won't move them.
Then we get there. Then the media does what it
does lied, Oh, those no weapons master structure. It was
a big giant lie. No, it wasn't they move the weapons,
you telegraph the attack. But regardless of all of that,
should we have gone into Iraq? Should we have done
a regime change? Should we have had boots on the ground,
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should we have been there as long as we were?
And for the most part, the answer is no on
all of them. Regime change? Well, you know, you know,
you can't give them democracy. First of all, I hate
that term. We don't have democracy. Others countries might, but
you can't give them democracy or Republic or anything. That's
because they're not that region. They're not capable of it.
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It's a different mindset. If you a regime change, you remove,
you take out one cancer or greater cancer usually steps in.
We saw that in Iraq, we saw that in Libya.
So we should not be in the in the business
of regime changes, but we do need to be in
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the business of keeping the region safe, stable and our
interests protected. You don't want to go to war, you
don't want your guys boots on the ground, but you've
got to take some type of action if it becomes necessary.
You prefer peace, but as George Washington said, the best
way to achieve peace is to be ready for war.
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And I think President Trump understands that and he has
said straight out. I saw him in one particular press
conference where I think he was on a tarmax or something.
I got that They're throwing questions at him and and
he's like, no, I'm not gonna put boots on the ground.
I don't want troops in that area, but you know
what's got to be done. Hey, he's been trying to
negotiate with Iran. We don't want to blow you up
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and so on and so forth, and then you have
the sensitivity part of it. Yeah, but Doug, what about
the poor People's not their fault, and you know, you
hit this country and they die and their economy goes bad.
I understand that. And Israel's not been hitting civilian targets
like Iran has been shooting for They've been hitting military targets.
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But in the same token, you don't throw the baby
out with the bathwater. The reality is those people live
under a bad regime. The bad regime, something's gotta happen,
and you need to weaken the regime so they can't
do anything. Trump has his attitude is basically make them
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so weak they can't be a danger. Sanctions hurt their economy,
so there's not enough money to build a military. They
got to take care of their people and that's it.
And there's not only an money for that. Take away
their ability to deliver the weapon. This argument that they
well nuclear keep bills you for energy ball, They're surrounded
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by oil, they're major exports. Nine of their energy is
produced by fossil fuel gas. Basically, they don't need it's
a lie, it's not true. Then it comes down too well, Yeah,
but the president can't just do that. It's got to
get the permission of Congress. This comes from my wonderful
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neighbor that that's a congressional It's up to them to
declare war. He's not declaring war. You're right. Congress declares war.
The president wages war. The president may wage war when
he believes is necessary, when the national security is at risk.
You know, as Dennis has said a number of times
in this program For God to Love the World, he
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didn't sit a committee you need. A president can be
decisive on the issues. And this is not just me
saying this because Trump is an office. I said the
same thing when Biden was in office and when Obama
was in office. This is what the constitution says. There
are two war powers in the constitution. Power declare war,
the power to wage war. Commander in chief wage war.
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But if he wages war too much and now he
needs funding and Congress don't like it, they can't deny it. Funding,
no money, no war. So there's a check against it.
And of course there's also impeachment should it come to
that point. So it's not that the president can run
willy nilly without you know, just you know, forever war.
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But in the same token, he doesn't have to be
micromanaged by Congress or by the courts or anybody else.
He has executive power duties, and among those duties is
the power to wage war, and it is for him
to do so if he believes it's necessary. But if
there's only so much money, there's so much, so much
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materials to say, Congress, I need more bombs, I need
more money for this. I need to be able to
afford to send this plane out. So we need this.
And in Congress then they can do their debates and
get into their committees and whatever. Better be quick though,
because the war is afoot. But that immediate decision that's
up to the president. This idea that the president is
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a warmongerer, or that he's he's going against his I'm
a peacemaker pledge while he's on a campaign trail, or
that he has taken power from Congress he's acting on
constitutionally or like an authoritarian dictator world warmongerer, that's all false.
It's a false narrative. But then again, the opposition is
good at that, aren't they. This is what they do,
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my friends, that is their modus operandi. Now here's what.
And the thing is, you know, Iran is refusing to
negotiat refusing to talk. He's tried, he sat down on
the table with him. There's been news that they talk
though little bit. And then you get the Israeli Foreign
whatever affairs guy. I was watching this this morning. Oh
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of the we're not we're not talking to them, United says,
so keeps wanting to talk to us. But you know,
if if the United States evolved, it's gonna be held
to pay, all right with with what with what missile?
Now that maybe they could go with a cyber attack,
Maybe they could go to you know, uh, their terrorist network.
I don't know, But the fact is you don't back
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down because the other side makes threats while they're backed
against the wall. The Iran is Iran is backed against
the wall. They have nowhere to go. I can I
can hear in the background Darth Vader might be visiting us. Uh.
But but here we go. We have to understand that
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the president has to be able to make these decisions.
And whether you like Israel or not, whether you anti
Zionist prosion this i'mwhere in between. You hate Israel, you
love it Israel, you hate the jew you love it,
I don't care. The fact is the Middle East. If
Iran has nuclear capabilities in the Middle East, regardless of
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how you feel about Israel, regardless how you feel about Islam,
regardless how you feel about the world situation or or
or love, peace, dope or whatever else goes to your mind,
everybody knows that if Iran has a nuclear bomb, it's bad.
This is the most Nazi like regime, the most terrorist
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minded regime, the biggest terrorism fund being source in the world,
aside from maybe China. They can't have the You know,
it's funny because way back in what was it, two
thousand and U Jesu. It was during Obama's presidency, and
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I went out to I went out to went out
to la And this is way back when why am
I blanking on his name?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This is way back when I had another co host
of my show, older gentleman, and he and I went
out there to do some filmage films. And this is
when the Iran deal was being put together by Obama
and he basically by cat bypass Congress, and and I
had this one woman who's originally from you know, the
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Middle East, and then lived in New York Ish and
and she and she was there when nine to eleven happened.
She says, hey, we cannot allow Iran to have the bomb,
and this deal will give it to them. You don't
You can't negotiate with terrorists. You can't say, oh, well,
you know, we'll be nice to you if you nice.
They lie. It's sort of like democrats. They only understand
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one thing.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Force.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, we want peacetime. Yes, Trump said he's a peace
time president. But if you gotta do what you got
to do, you gotta do it. I don't want troops
on the ground, but we have technology. We have the
technology to take care of business and be gone. This
is not Iran. So don't listen to democrats. And I
was telling you, oh he wants to go to wars,
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he's lying. This what we I remember when I was
the Navy, but we were proud of the fact that
we could send a missile. See up till I was
in before that, our missile guidance was pretty much we
could pick which building the hit. When I was in
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the Navy, we got the point where we could pick
which window in that building to put the missile through.
Now technology is so good we could pick which apple
on which table, through which window to hit. Let's use
the technology as do what's necessary, because a nuclear Iran
is a danger to the world, danger to our immediate interests,
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and a danger to Israal and it is constitution or
no for the president to make that decision. I was
watching this morning. Well, Congress just kind of split on
what to do and whether or not to give the
president of the affority. He doesn't need their They don't
need their affority their blessing. He's commander in chief and
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he's given them two weeks. He didn't say he's gonna
do it in two weeks. He said up to two weeks.
He and he cracked me up. He's on one day.
He says, well, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Nobody knows what I'm gonna do, you know, And I
kind of like that. That's the point. Don't telegraph it
like we did with Iraq. Put the fear of God
in them, and then either actor don't. Depending on the situation,
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we don't, but do not send it to a committee
or to be mulled around for a bunch of weeks.
The leagues go out and we mess it all up
like we did under Bush, because we're so worried that
Congress may have an opinion regarding the national security of
this country when it's the commander in chief who has
that duty. We'll be right back after this break.
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Dennis war what's your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Well, I am just fascinated at watching what's going on.
The B two bombers went to Guam. You know I
read that this morning. They didn't say how many.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And you got the Mimus nearby, which has the aircraft
that would accompany the B twos.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, and then they'll they'll say, probably will wind up
going to uh Diego, Garcia from Guam. That that's the
ideal take off place, you know, to get to the
Middle East.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And that's also a repeal depot there, so all of
that works nicely. Yeah, well it's interesting I've been there.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Well, it's interesting that the B twos had been on
Diego and they were just replaced last month by B
fifty Two's that's what the article was saying. So now
the B twos are coming back. You know, you would
have thought that they would have just left the B
twos there, but for whatever reason. Yeah, there's activity going on.
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Then I read this morning that I ran as saying
they are going to negotiate anything because they're under a threat. Well,
you know, the threat's not going away, so if they
don't do anything, then I think the probability is higher
that the uh, the big bomb will get used, like
you were saying, you know, you need to drop two
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one to make the first hole and then the other
one to you know, finish it off. And I know that, uh,
you know, Trump's hearing it from especially Bannon and others,
that this is not our fight. And I do believe
that if the bomb doesn't go off, if Trump does
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not cross that line, that the end result is going
to be the same either way, if if, if Israel
has to go in there.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
So you trust that Israel is going to completely disarm
the Iranian situation, Well, they.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Can't stop them. They own the skies, they can go in,
they can land aircraft probably on runways rather than even
have to use paratroopers. But you know what they've been
to do. I mean, look at what they did thirty
five years ago within Tebbi, you know, and net Yahu
was part of that rage, you know, so I mean
it's kind of in his DNA. And if they need
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to go into that place and take the elevator three
hundred feet down and take them out hand by hand
and then plant actual bombs and then go up and
blow them up, you know, that's what it takes. I
believe they can do it. So I don't think Trump
needs the risk the political capital. I just find it
interesting that the Democrats are all in favor of the
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Ukraine war, but they aren't in favor of this war.
You know, I kind of a selective targeting, I guess.
But since how this war would help Israel and they
don't seem to care for Israel, I don't know. So
I think I think Trump is really really playing it hard,
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trying to do everything he can. I do not think
he is going to really want to cross that line,
but I think right up.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
To it, he is being careful. But at the same time,
Americans overwhelmingly, including Democrats, support what Trump. You know that
Trump said, Hey, Israel, go ahead and all sort of stuff.
They support that action would be taken. I was looking
at some pole and it was. It was in the
upper seventy percentile regarding Republicans, it was in the mid
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upper sixty percentile of Democrats and independence that supported well,
so far.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So well. Those polls may be supporting our support of Israel,
but the polls that I've read, it's only sixteen to
nineteen percent that want the US to actually fly the
B two and get involved. You know. So I don't know,
but you know, you can't make your decision based upon
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which way there was.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
This is true. This is true when the fate of
the world is in the hands of a president. What
Tom Dick and Harry says is while important, not crucial.
What's crucial is what needs to be done and in fact,
and I support us going in there if necessary, but
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I support it being hit the target, be gone, be
done with it. That's well, and that's and that's what
I believe should happen in Iraq. Well, that hit the targets,
do what we do with our technology and lead.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, but they always say that, you know, it's it's
never been completed without boots on the ground. Now, if
you let the Israelis be the boots on the ground
and we just fly over and drop two and you know,
they do what they want to have done. I don't
know if that's gonna you know, and flame everybody or not.
But you know, there are a few things you remember,
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and number one is both Russia in China are saying
there are one hundred percent behind Iron and then you've
got our NATO ally that is also behind Iran.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, but I'm a firm believer boots don't have to
be on the ground, because you have you're a.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Sailor, you don't like the army, you're you know, you'd
rather shoot them from the set.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, that's not it but I believe boots are not
solely on the ground by US or Israel, because if
you weaken this this regime enough, there is enough of
an anti regime sentiment in that country that if they're
weak enough that the people believe they can rise up
and get rid of it, they will but it. But
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you have to weaken them enough that this it's they're
willing to do that. The boots on the ground don't
have to be US. The boots on the ground can
be the people of Iran, or at least the ones
brave enough to do something.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I also believe that you know, they can do enough dammage.
If they try to shoot a ICBM, they probably are
not going to be shooting it out of that four
door facility from three hundred feet down. I don't think
that's I don't think that's a launch site. Okay, that's
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it's the enrichment site. So uh, I don't know they've
got anything left on the surface.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean, I say at the beginning, That's why I
said at the beginning that you know, if you eliminate
their ability to deliver it. Now that said, that doesn't
mean that Iran is not capable of cyber attacks if
they're not and they're not capable of their own boots
on the ground. When it comes to terrorist networks around
the world and all that jazz.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, if they were somehow able to scrape together a
launchpad and fire one, with all of the stuff that's
being watched there and Israel being right there, I would
think I don't know how long it takes an ICBM
to get up to speed, but you know, it would like.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
To be accepted. I believe that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
They are going to have some guy sitting there with
a missile launcher on his shoulders shoot down an ICBM,
you know, with the sidewinder missile. But I gotta believe
that if they did launch the first of one or two,
if they could scrape it together and do that, I
do think that with the oversight there, that that thing
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wouldn't finish it's upward climb before it would be taken
out of the sky.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh exactly. And the iron dome that of Israel, which
is basically the Patriot missile on steroids, and the fact
that we also have a missile intercept and intercepting interception
missiles system, Uh yeah, I agree, And that there have
been a few Iranian missiles that have gotten through that defense.
(32:54):
But it'll hit Hypa the other day and you know,
tell me so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, but that's funny. A couple of it's away.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know, it's been minimal damage and it's been a
very very very very low percentage of missiles have gotten through.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well, but the travel time of that missile isn't very much.
But you know, trying to if they're trying to send
a missile to the US, you know that's not a
five minute operation.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Oh yeah, that thing's gone. You know that we sit
there and watch and wait until it's over the ocean,
you know, and hit it. But and Israel, I think
would do the same thing absolutely, So I'm not overly
worried about Iran's capabilities. I think they could take.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They could take a warhead and put it in the
truck and see if they could drive it into Israel
and explode it and detonated, you know, without But you know,
the ICBM is for the US, you know, it's not
for it's not for Israel.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, they want to send a missile over is what
if they can't? You But yeah, you're right, And like
I said earlier, while I believe that Iran's fangs have
been they've been defamed. I do as I said earlier.
They still got you know, cyber attack capabilities, terrorist networks
and get that. But that doesn't mean that you well,
you don't want to make them mad because he sit
a terrorist group. You've got to take care of business.
(34:10):
You gotta do what you gotta do. And if he
is stung in the process a little bit, you know,
then you know, you try not to, but that's what happens.
I'm and I'm not saying that I'm willing to take
a nuclear strike or something I got. I'm saying, you
got what you got to do. Them with a nuclear warhead,
regardless of delivery system, is not a good thing. I
am full support of the B two dropping a bunker
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buster and another one behind it if that's what it takes,
and us doing it. Now. That said, I don't believe
that's Trump being a warmonger. I don't believe that's him
betraying his promise of being a peacemaker. I believe that's
what's necessary. All right, Well, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
He's been promising that he will not let them get
a nuclear warhead.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Exactly, and and and like I said, for the most part,
he's that they're support for that. All right, now, before
we lose time too much time here, I want you to Alan,
and we had to have two other things I want
to talk about. So, Alan, this is a very big conversation.
We took a lot more time, and I thought we would,
but I'm glad we did because it is important. This
is an important topic, Israel's safety I think goes beyond
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just the region and our ally and Dennis. I didn't
say this when I was talking to Dennis, but I
also believe there's spiritual implications. I'm a firm believer that
the Abrahamic promise, those who curse you will be cursed,
those who support you will be supported. I defend you'll
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be defended, and so on and so forth. Bless you.
That's it. Bless you will be blessed. I believe that,
in addition to all the other things I've said. So, Alan,
what's your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I think you both covered it pretty well. They I
don't know how many people are actually or bongers or
happy to go to war and not.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You think of a couple of moves that probably would
be But anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I was thinking people.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I know how.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Given that the vast majority don't want war doesn't mean
you won't have to. Given what other people, other countries do,
sometimes the bully just has to be beaten down. Don't
want to not looking forward to it. But with all
(36:32):
the threats, the attitude supporting of terrorism. This is and
again I'm not talking necessarily about the country, the people,
the culture. It's the administration that's what runs the country, right,
and they collectively are about domination control And if they
(37:03):
just stayed within their borders, then that wouldn't be our business.
But they're not staying within their borders. And when you
support terrorist groups that go out and about to different
places in the world, you've left your borders. Nobody wanted
World War One, but look what happened. We did everything
(37:25):
we could to stay out of World War Two, but
Japan gave us the invitation we couldn't refuse. Bullies will
find a way until you stop them, and being willing
to stop them doesn't make you a war longer. It
means you actually want peace, but you'll stand up against
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those that would take it from you. And if we
have technology that can short circuit this whole activity, use it.
You can take out their their power producers, they have
no power. We're good. Take out that building underground. Think
(38:12):
about this, if there is that massive building three hundred
feet underground? Okay, how big is the building, Doug?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You know, I don't remember. I was looking at the dimensions.
What they believed the dimensions to be. They don't know
for sure. Yeah, but what they believed to be the
dimensions I really don't remember. But it's fairly good size. Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
How much time and money did that administration pay to
get that thing built?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well know, how much money did Obama give to them?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I haven't seen the books yet. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, I'm sure that was That was a good chunk
of it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
The point is funding was used to do that to
help proves their aggressiveness instead of let's say, take care
of their own people, right to me, do what's needed
to shut this down as fast as possible.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You go.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Well, and that's and that goes across the board. And
one of the examples I've used with people lately, and
I actually kind of refer to a little bit on
Douglas of Gibbs dot com on the promo page for
today's program, sort of like slaying a dragon. What's the
best way to slay the dragon? If you can't kill
it because the armor is so thick, well, you disable
(39:33):
its ability to fly, to move, and to shoot fire
out of his mouth. In other words, you go after
its source of power. If it is a lame, the
fireless dragon, it's probably the site. Maybe falling over on
something's probably not can do a whole lot of damage.
And that's what's going on here with Iran. You take
out its ability, it's source of power. And the same
(39:55):
thing goes on when it comes to following the money.
Follow the money. The money is what gives certain things
that source of power. Not just Iran, but how about
those riots going on, the Ice riots and so what
So what the Trump administrations do doing through the FBI
and I r S is they are investigating who is
(40:18):
funding those efforts to function those rights, those gatherings, those
peaceful demonstrations, And they put out the word, hey, if
you're funding this, uh, this domestic violence, this insurrection type activity,
you will you can be imprisoned and fined. It will happen.
(40:42):
They are going after the monetary source of power. Same
thing when it comes to what the left does within
the government and the deep state, and this just came
down just what was it a couple of days ago?
Is that for individuals got and it pleaded guilty to
participating in a bribery scheme involving the USAID US Agency
(41:06):
for International Development, which resulted in fourteen contracts worth more
than five hundred and fifty million dollars being improperly awarded
to companies involved in the front. You go after the money,
and you go after those who are playing games with
the money. And guess what happens once you you take
care of that. The You know, my wife and I
(41:27):
were talking about judges and the and how judges are
acting unconstitutionally. It feat a couple. It'd be amazing how
how well the other ones start to behave usaid here.
You got four of them, go after them, make sure
that they get some some nice imprisonment time, and they
keep investigating. It'll be amazing how well everybody else starts
(41:48):
to operate and and mind the law.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Just need a good orangine jumpsuit, spy.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's It's like even with your children, right,
if you know you got you got a what was
it like sixteen kids? There, Alan, And so you know,
you grab one of those kids and you get onto them.
Are not cleaning the room. The other fifteen are cleaning
the room. All right, maybe it's not that many, but
you know, you know, you got got your little brood there.
(42:19):
You got your little baseball team if you count, if
you count everybody who visits every once in a while too.
But but my point is that that's how you do it.
You go after the source of power. And Trump is
also doing that when it comes to the money in
the deep state and the riots and Usaid and the
deep state that that machine is. You take off its legs,
(42:43):
you take off its wings, and you remove its ability
to breathe fire, and it's a lot easier to get
under control. Alan, What do you think about that, especially
when it comes to the fact that the FBI, in
the I R S under a Trump's direction, is putting
those riot funders on notice with the imprisonment or finds
coming if you keep this up, if we find out,
you get it and four pe guilty in a five
(43:05):
hundred and fifty million dollar USAID fraud scheme. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Always find and follow the money, and since most people
don't do these big kind of transactions in cash, they
leave a very searchable trail as to where the money
came from and where it went. When it comes to
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these riots or whatever, or you know, activities in LA
that are mostly peaceful. Well, if you arrest somebody, you
want to look at their bank account, what transactions are
going on in their bank account, what came in and
where if something unusual came in, especially a whole dollar amount,
(44:00):
where did it come from? And you just start backtracking.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Just do an accounting review, right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's accounting review, simple, plane easy and undeniable. It's just interesting.
And then once you get into into knowing some of
the people involved, you'd start looking at their text messages,
(44:28):
their emails, phone calls. Who are you talking to you?
What message did you leave? How were you know? How
is it you gave this person two thousand dollars? Why
and where did you get the money to do it? So, yeah,
following the money is absolutely essential because.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Coming to theater soon Ben Affleck step Aside and the
the the sequel to the sequel Adam Meyer, starting in
the Accountant three, what do you think sound good?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Love it?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
All you do is you hunt it down with bank
statements and all these sort of documents, and you can
you'll again, if you want to hide something, you stay
in cash.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
There. What's your thoughts, man, it looks like, uh, the
President Trump is slaying the dragon by targeting its monetary
source of power and the corruption uh in USA, Idea
and other places. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Well, I think it takes too long because everything Alan
is saying, I mean, you can have that in the
same day. They're coming to the bank account. Where did
the two thousand come from? It came from this bank.
You go to that bank, you look at that bank
account and you say, where did this money come from?
You know, it doesn't take a week to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, but then you got adjudicated. Then there's the h I.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Know, the people can appeal stuff, but I mean, you know,
I mean you can find out where came from, you know,
and it goes back to you know, Soros, It goes
back to this other guy who had never heard of
but you know, in the last month, you know, a
guy here, I think in California they said he was,
you know, doing a lot of the money. You know,
(46:18):
And then you talk to the guys that are out
there getting paid twenty five bucks an hour. You know
that we're busted in Where did you come from? Who
paid for your bus ticket? I mean you ought to
be able to do this now. You know, the slogan
orange man bad has been around for a long time now, right, Yeah,
so I like using the word orange. I would just say, okay,
(46:41):
now we're going to do like I said, We're going
to do orange therapy jumpsuit style, you know. And all
you got to do is go out and say, well,
we have evidence. We have evidence of this person, say,
testifying before Congress and then a month later being on
CNN Brennan saying one hundred and eighty degree he's different.
(47:01):
You have that, Well who is he lying to?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
You know?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
And arrest them. You know they got CALLI with the
eighty six forty seven. You know what's that mean? Well,
you know they brought them in for questioning. Well, arrest them.
You know they've arrested Jay six Ers for far less
than that. You know, start arresting these guys, start doing
the perp walk. You don't have to go in with
(47:26):
twenty guys at four am with the CNN just happening
to be there to get it on camera. You know,
go ahead and do it at ten thirty in the
afternoon by going into their office and just walking them
out in front of all their employees with hands behind
their back. You know, get a little orange therapy going,
and you're right, things will start to collapse. But until
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the orange starts, nothing else is going to happen.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
This.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Give me another week, give me another month. You know,
Durham report went on for four years. You know, it
was it was all smoking mirrors.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Well, the post is they lie. People believe their lies,
and they're good at it, and they've been doing that long.
Our tar system is based on a foundation of lies.
It's like I was talking to my neighbor and he's like, well,
I'm not constitutional for the president to say that the
Bible and prayer should be back in schools, and so
it's also in constitution for the Federal gummat to be
given the money for price and be dictating at all.
(48:24):
And and so how about we just then kill the
Department of Education and kill all the funny Well you
don't do that. Well wait a second, you just got
mad that the Federal gumm has got some say on
the exacting I It has say on the education system.
If they're gonna give them money, the say is going
to follow. That's the way it works. But see when
you start using a little bit logic, then their lives
fall apart. And the thing is, it's like, you know,
(48:46):
the Left was trying to create this this rift between
that Elon Musk and Trump didn't work. Now they're trying
to do it between Trump and Tolci Gabbert. General Flint says,
it's all a setup. They're lying, crack moving on the
big beautiful bill. Are all lies.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
They cannot lie on a trail of money. Well you can't,
well you can't. You can't lie to Alan. You know,
if Allan has access, he'll find out the facts and
the facts are not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Well, and eventually lies do get found out. It's like
right now we're you know, we're starting now to see
we have a top FDA official admitting that she refused
to COVID nineteen vaccine while she's pregnant because she knew
it was dangerous, but she was lying as part of
the SDA. Oh no, it's safe. I'm not gonna take
it to It's dangerous, but it's safe, you know. And
eventually these do lis do come to surface. But the
(49:38):
problem is, like what you were saying, it takes too long.
You know, the orange humps need to be start flying
off the shelves. When we got another the headline I've
got in here that once again the lies. Toyota chairman
says that a single EV produces as much pollution as
three hybrids over its total life cycle. All this electrical
(50:00):
out car and electric you know, electric get you know,
going on electrics gonna save us and all that, it's
a lie. It's all a lie. Top doctor blow's whistle.
Hospitals boosted COVID desks, use some euthanizing patients. Oh well, no,
the numbers were hot. You were lying. They lie about watchings,
They lie about January sixth. They lie, that's what they do.
(50:21):
Why because they're rotten inside. And when you're rotten inside,
rot comes out of your mouth. Why don't you wrap
that thought up? Uh, Dennis, Then we'll get to Allen
and then we'll say good day. Since we're about five
and a half minutes left of the program.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Well, I really don't have much to add to it.
I mean, like I say, there are facts, and they
have to me they have enough facts you know enough
probable cause to indict people and go after people. And
I don't know why they don't do it by now.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Well, they use their and they use their deception for
agitation because they figure if they get the it's and
it goes back to up and saying along. It's sort
of like a bully in the schoolyard poking you in
the chest. He's not poking you in chest to be
a bully. He's poking your chest to get you take
a swing. Once you take your swing, then he beats
you to a pope and says, well, he threw the
first swing. That's what they're trying to do. It's agitation.
That's what they did on January sixth. Why do they
(51:16):
have all kinds of images and video of a bunch
of maga people very angry because they're blowing up flash
bangs in their face, so stuff like that. It's agitation.
All of the deception is agitation. It's designed to get
a reaction so that they can move forward. What they
do alan based on these final things we've said. With
(51:36):
about three and a half minutes left to go, what's
your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Any specific question, all of it?
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Come on now, you could do it. I mean, we've
got we've got the follow the money. They're lying. There's corruption,
but that's what they do, right.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Well, the follow the money, of course, and that's understanding
the transactions, the source, the use, the movement.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
That, given the.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Way our system works, is under undeniable information and ultimately accessible.
The lying. It's in some ways. I think the lying
is complex in that it could be for one reason,
it could be multiple reasons. Now some people might.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
The lying they're being deceptive. Who cares what the reason is.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I'm going into the mind.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Of the liar. Okay, that's fun, I get not really,
it's pretty It's like immigration, well, Doug, yeah, but even
though they broke the law come in to the country,
they do the jobs that you don't want to do
when they and they've been following the rules ever since.
Well yeah, it's soon broke into my house. But that
don't worry. He's following the rules ever since he's been
in the house. He's still broke in the aware what
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the reason is? I don't care what the feel.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Good all but no, no, okay, I'm trying to understand
the liar.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
If you want to tell you what, I'll tell you
right now. How to understand it? They want power and
they lie tog in it.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
And another way to say that is they they believe
in their agenda, their vision, their view, their belief, and
therefore they get to lie to achieve.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
The agenda and justify the means.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
The fact that they're not getting their agenda, they just
want to believe it. Or on the other hand, as
you're talking about, this is a huge power play.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
I cannot have enough power. I don't care how I
amass it. I don't care how I take it. I
don't care who I heard in the process. Look at
of the you know, look at what the the royalty
did way back in the day. It didn't matter how
how starved their subjects were. They had the castles, they
(54:13):
had the servants, they had everything, and they can never
have enough.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah, it's just not monarchies. I mean no Stalin mao,
uh pull pot. You know, list goes on and on
and on.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Right, when you're dealing with that kind of personality, they
may actually have a justification in their mind. That doesn't
mean right that.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
I said, and I've said that to dentists, you know,
where I believe deep down they believe they're doing good.
He says, no, they're no, they're doing evil. No, but
they believe the evil is okay for them to achieve
what they believe to be good. And I think you're right.
All right, we got less than a minute left, So
thank you Joeen for spending the time on the program.
Plug yourself real quick there allan.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
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we're kind of kind of becoming like a barter type thing,
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knocks off a lot of items. But if it's like
putting up a wall or you know, things like that,
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and it got stuck in low full wheel drive, and
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and he put it up on this rack and I mean,
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(01:57):
you know this slipped out and you know it's all worn.
You need to replace it. And we got to talked
and we never really had a chance to talk before.
And his his response was but what he basically said
to me was uh, because he knows I'm into the
Constitution and he and he likes to use the word
constitutional scholar, which is consto caller. I guess a scholar
(02:20):
is somebody who's heavily on something, very educated whatever. I
guess I'll take constitutional scholar. I've never liked using that term,
but we can use it. And he says to me,
I don't understand how any constitutional scholar can make excuses
for an authoritarian regime. I think that pretty much for
you now will sum up the rest of our conversation.
(02:41):
And so I've written some articles, the last two articles
based on my conversations with him, and I'm gonna send
links out onto the uh, you know, on the radio
page again. But but you know, it's fascinating because I
like talking about people like him, because you don't always
(03:01):
know the arguments of the other side. I wrote an
article sanctuary illusion, because sanctuary cities sanctuary. I understand what
they're trying to do and all of that from my
point of view, what damage is causing. But then he
used an argument I hadn't used before. Oh, sanctuary cities
is because if we allow law enforcement to have to
(03:23):
communicate and with the ice and all that, they wind
up doing the work of the federal government. We don't
have the resources that cost too much for us to
be rounding up illegal aliens when it's the federal government's job.
I had not heard that one before, and I thought
to myself. Well, gosh, you know, it's not necessarily it,
(03:44):
you know, And so I wrote the article. The reason
I bring that up is because then they got to
think about other things. For today's what else are we
being told or is believed by the side that just
isn't true. And now we're getting when it comes to
what's going on in Israel and Iran. And I've had
these conversations a lot lately because you have you got
(04:05):
Israel and Iran now trading missiles and the United States
helped Israel with the defense of Israel, the shooting incoming
missiles out of this guy. And now we've got a
question here. Iran is poised to create a nuclear weapon.
We know what that regime will do if they have one,
(04:26):
they'll use it. And so the idea is here, we've
got to stop them. And Masad has been operating inside Iran,
and Israel had intelligence that basically said that Iran had
gotten to the point where they were about two weeks away,
maybe a week away from finally getting it done. And
(04:51):
they've been talking to Trump all along, President Trump, and
you know, preparing for this, and they've gone in and
they've hit these facilities and not only they're not necessarily
hitting the nuclear facilities, but they're they are hitting the
Iran's ability to deliver the weapon, So the missile systems
are being hit, so on and so forth. When it
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comes to these nuclear facilities, you want to be careful
because you don't want to create a nuclear or radioactive
accident and all that. So you got to work around
it and and you know the power that goes to
the facility. Whatever you have to, you know, play that game.
And one of those facilities is about three hundred plus
feet underground, just about sixty miles outside of Tehran. And
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while Israel is their precision striking is unbelievable and they've
knocked out Iran's defenses. So Israel is able to you know,
you know, pick apart and do whatever they want. That
they own the skies now over Iran. But the thing
is the final, the final puzzle piece, is that that
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one facility that's underground taking it out is Israel doesn't
have the technology, the weaponry that we have that could
take it out. We do. We have the bunker Busters.
The bunker Buster is designed to go underground about up
to two hundred feet and then detonate underground. This is
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what was used to go after Osama bin Laden and
hit one of those bunker busts that clapsed all the tunnels.
He was, you know, he was basically under it all
when it came down. That's how we got him. Then
we fished out his body later. We have this technology
that nobody else really has, and it's and then if
you send two of these bombs back to back, the
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first one goes in two hundred you know, and and
and blasts, and then you have another one through GPS guidance,
go right into that hole. Now it's going to go
another one hundred feet or more and then it explodes.
So you can. So this facility is three hundred and
more feet underground, it's reachable, it's doable to not only
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get two, but maybe even to clapse everything around it.
So now the question is does the United States get
involved in that manner? I know a lot of my
left e like my neighbor, Well, we're already involved. We're
already at war because we helped Israel. Well we helped
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them defend themselves, but we haven't gotten into the offensive
part per se yet. I mean, we're always involved in things,
and that's just the way it is in this world.
But the question is do we does President Trump take
that next action, and he's say, hey, he ran on
(07:41):
being a peacemaker, he ran on ending war, but let's
have some common sense here. It cracks me up because
when it comes to the left, when it comes to
the people out there, it's either one or the other,
whether you're a warmonger or you're a peacemaker. Well, you've
gotta And my wife laughs because I use this word
so much, but it's so it's so important. You got
(08:03):
to find the balance.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes, you need to be able to defend yourself, but
at the same time, you don't want never ending wars.
You don't want boots on the ground, especially when our
direct interests are not involved. Now we have a treat
we have treaties with Israel has been our best ally,
and we do have direct interest in that area because
of a number of reasons, not just stability of the
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region and Islam, but also there's oil and all kinds
of other issues that are involved. Good bad are in between.
It's all important and it all directly influences us. But
we saw in Iraq. We you know, most Americans did
not like the fact that boots were on the ground,
and the boots are on the ground very long. They
believe that we were lied to about the weapons of
(08:51):
mass destruction. I'm here to tell you that was not
a lie. They had weapons mass destruction, but we sat
here and telegraphed it. We telegraphed we were coming, and
they move those weapons mass destruction. And I've got books
and images about, you know, showing the movement of these
weapons from Iraq to Syria. Oh, you got a telegraphing
(09:12):
attack us because the weapons master destruction won't move them.
Then we get there. Then the media does what it
does lied, Oh, those no weapons master structure. It was
a big giant lie. No, it wasn't they move the weapons,
you telegraph the attack. But regardless of all of that,
should we have gone into Iraq? Should we have done
a regime change? Should we have had boots on the ground,
(09:33):
should we have been there as long as we were?
And for the most part, the answer is no on
all of them. Regime change? Well, you know, you know,
you can't give them democracy. First of all, I hate
that term. We don't have democracy. Others countries might, but
you can't give them democracy or Republic or anything. That's
because they're not that region. They're not capable of it.
(09:55):
It's a different mindset. If you a regime change, you remove,
you take out one cancer or greater cancer usually steps in.
We saw that in Iraq, we saw that in Libya.
So we should not be in the in the business
of regime changes, but we do need to be in
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the business of keeping the region safe, stable and our
interests protected. You don't want to go to war, you
don't want your guys boots on the ground, but you've
got to take some type of action if it becomes necessary.
You prefer peace, but as George Washington said, the best
way to achieve peace is to be ready for war.
(10:39):
And I think President Trump understands that and he has
said straight out. I saw him in one particular press
conference where I think he was on a tarmax or something.
I got that They're throwing questions at him and and
he's like, no, I'm not gonna put boots on the ground.
I don't want troops in that area, but you know
what's got to be done. Hey, he's been trying to
negotiate with Iran. We don't want to blow you up
(11:03):
and so on and so forth, and then you have
the sensitivity part of it. Yeah, but Doug, what about
the poor People's not their fault, and you know, you
hit this country and they die and their economy goes bad.
I understand that. And Israel's not been hitting civilian targets
like Iran has been shooting for They've been hitting military targets.
(11:28):
But in the same token, you don't throw the baby
out with the bathwater. The reality is those people live
under a bad regime. The bad regime, something's gotta happen,
and you need to weaken the regime so they can't
do anything. Trump has his attitude is basically make them
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so weak they can't be a danger. Sanctions hurt their economy,
so there's not enough money to build a military. They
got to take care of their people and that's it.
And there's not only an money for that. Take away
their ability to deliver the weapon. This argument that they
well nuclear keep bills you for energy ball, They're surrounded
(12:10):
by oil, they're major exports. Nine of their energy is
produced by fossil fuel gas. Basically, they don't need it's
a lie, it's not true. Then it comes down too well, Yeah,
but the president can't just do that. It's got to
get the permission of Congress. This comes from my wonderful
(12:33):
neighbor that that's a congressional It's up to them to
declare war. He's not declaring war. You're right. Congress declares war.
The president wages war. The president may wage war when
he believes is necessary, when the national security is at risk.
You know, as Dennis has said a number of times
in this program For God to Love the World, he
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didn't sit a committee you need. A president can be
decisive on the issues. And this is not just me
saying this because Trump is an office. I said the
same thing when Biden was in office and when Obama
was in office. This is what the constitution says. There
are two war powers in the constitution. Power declare war,
the power to wage war. Commander in chief wage war.
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But if he wages war too much and now he
needs funding and Congress don't like it, they can't deny it. Funding,
no money, no war. So there's a check against it.
And of course there's also impeachment should it come to
that point. So it's not that the president can run
willy nilly without you know, just you know, forever war.
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But in the same token, he doesn't have to be
micromanaged by Congress or by the courts or anybody else.
He has executive power duties, and among those duties is
the power to wage war, and it is for him
to do so if he believes it's necessary. But if
there's only so much money, there's so much, so much
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materials to say, Congress, I need more bombs, I need
more money for this. I need to be able to
afford to send this plane out. So we need this.
And in Congress then they can do their debates and
get into their committees and whatever. Better be quick though,
because the war is afoot. But that immediate decision that's
up to the president. This idea that the president is
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a warmongerer, or that he's he's going against his I'm
a peacemaker pledge while he's on a campaign trail, or
that he has taken power from Congress he's acting on
constitutionally or like an authoritarian dictator world warmongerer, that's all false.
It's a false narrative. But then again, the opposition is
good at that, aren't they. This is what they do,
(14:44):
my friends, that is their modus operandi. Now here's what.
And the thing is, you know, Iran is refusing to
negotiat refusing to talk. He's tried, he sat down on
the table with him. There's been news that they talk
though little bit. And then you get the Israeli Foreign
whatever affairs guy. I was watching this this morning. Oh
(15:07):
of the we're not we're not talking to them, United says,
so keeps wanting to talk to us. But you know,
if if the United States evolved, it's gonna be held
to pay, all right with with what with what missile?
Now that maybe they could go with a cyber attack,
Maybe they could go to you know, uh, their terrorist network.
I don't know, But the fact is you don't back
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down because the other side makes threats while they're backed
against the wall. The Iran is Iran is backed against
the wall. They have nowhere to go. I can I
can hear in the background Darth Vader might be visiting us. Uh.
But but here we go. We have to understand that
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the president has to be able to make these decisions.
And whether you like Israel or not, whether you anti
Zionist prosion this i'mwhere in between. You hate Israel, you
love it Israel, you hate the jew you love it,
I don't care. The fact is the Middle East. If
Iran has nuclear capabilities in the Middle East, regardless of
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how you feel about Israel, regardless how you feel about Islam,
regardless how you feel about the world situation or or
or love, peace, dope or whatever else goes to your mind,
everybody knows that if Iran has a nuclear bomb, it's bad.
This is the most Nazi like regime, the most terrorist
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minded regime, the biggest terrorism fund being source in the world,
aside from maybe China. They can't have the You know,
it's funny because way back in what was it, two
thousand and U Jesu. It was during Obama's presidency, and
(16:54):
I went out to I went out to went out
to la And this is way back when why am
I blanking on his name?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This is way back when I had another co host
of my show, older gentleman, and he and I went
out there to do some filmage films. And this is
when the Iran deal was being put together by Obama
and he basically by cat bypass Congress, and and I
had this one woman who's originally from you know, the
(17:25):
Middle East, and then lived in New York Ish and
and she and she was there when nine to eleven happened.
She says, hey, we cannot allow Iran to have the bomb,
and this deal will give it to them. You don't
You can't negotiate with terrorists. You can't say, oh, well,
you know, we'll be nice to you if you nice.
They lie. It's sort of like democrats. They only understand
(17:49):
one thing.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Force.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, we want peacetime. Yes, Trump said he's a peace
time president. But if you gotta do what you got
to do, you gotta do it. I don't want troops
on the ground, but we have technology. We have the
technology to take care of business and be gone. This
is not Iran. So don't listen to democrats. And I
was telling you, oh he wants to go to wars,
(18:13):
he's lying. This what we I remember when I was
the Navy, but we were proud of the fact that
we could send a missile. See up till I was
in before that, our missile guidance was pretty much we
could pick which building the hit. When I was in
(18:33):
the Navy, we got the point where we could pick
which window in that building to put the missile through.
Now technology is so good we could pick which apple
on which table, through which window to hit. Let's use
the technology as do what's necessary, because a nuclear Iran
is a danger to the world, danger to our immediate interests,
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and a danger to Israal and it is constitution or
no for the president to make that decision. I was
watching this morning. Well, Congress just kind of split on
what to do and whether or not to give the
president of the affority. He doesn't need their They don't
need their affority their blessing. He's commander in chief and
(19:18):
he's given them two weeks. He didn't say he's gonna
do it in two weeks. He said up to two weeks.
He and he cracked me up. He's on one day.
He says, well, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Nobody knows what I'm gonna do, you know, And I
kind of like that. That's the point. Don't telegraph it
like we did with Iraq. Put the fear of God
in them, and then either actor don't. Depending on the situation,
(19:41):
we don't, but do not send it to a committee
or to be mulled around for a bunch of weeks.
The leagues go out and we mess it all up
like we did under Bush, because we're so worried that
Congress may have an opinion regarding the national security of
this country when it's the commander in chief who has
that duty. We'll be right back after this break.
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Dennis war what's your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Well, I am just fascinated at watching what's going on.
The B two bombers went to Guam. You know I
read that this morning. They didn't say how many.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And you got the Mimus nearby, which has the aircraft
that would accompany the B twos.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, and then they'll they'll say, probably will wind up
going to uh Diego, Garcia from Guam. That that's the
ideal take off place, you know, to get to the
Middle East.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And that's also a repeal depot there, so all of
that works nicely. Yeah, well it's interesting I've been there.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Well, it's interesting that the B twos had been on
Diego and they were just replaced last month by B
fifty Two's that's what the article was saying. So now
the B twos are coming back. You know, you would
have thought that they would have just left the B
twos there, but for whatever reason. Yeah, there's activity going on.
(25:51):
Then I read this morning that I ran as saying
they are going to negotiate anything because they're under a threat. Well,
you know, the threat's not going away, so if they
don't do anything, then I think the probability is higher
that the uh, the big bomb will get used, like
you were saying, you know, you need to drop two
(26:13):
one to make the first hole and then the other
one to you know, finish it off. And I know that, uh,
you know, Trump's hearing it from especially Bannon and others,
that this is not our fight. And I do believe
that if the bomb doesn't go off, if Trump does
(26:34):
not cross that line, that the end result is going
to be the same either way, if if, if Israel
has to go in there.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
So you trust that Israel is going to completely disarm
the Iranian situation, Well, they.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Can't stop them. They own the skies, they can go in,
they can land aircraft probably on runways rather than even
have to use paratroopers. But you know what they've been
to do. I mean, look at what they did thirty
five years ago within Tebbi, you know, and net Yahu
was part of that rage, you know, so I mean
it's kind of in his DNA. And if they need
(27:14):
to go into that place and take the elevator three
hundred feet down and take them out hand by hand
and then plant actual bombs and then go up and
blow them up, you know, that's what it takes. I
believe they can do it. So I don't think Trump
needs the risk the political capital. I just find it
interesting that the Democrats are all in favor of the
(27:36):
Ukraine war, but they aren't in favor of this war.
You know, I kind of a selective targeting, I guess.
But since how this war would help Israel and they
don't seem to care for Israel, I don't know. So
I think I think Trump is really really playing it hard,
(28:00):
trying to do everything he can. I do not think
he is going to really want to cross that line,
but I think right up.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
To it, he is being careful. But at the same time,
Americans overwhelmingly, including Democrats, support what Trump. You know that
Trump said, Hey, Israel, go ahead and all sort of stuff.
They support that action would be taken. I was looking
at some pole and it was. It was in the
upper seventy percentile regarding Republicans, it was in the mid
(28:31):
upper sixty percentile of Democrats and independence that supported well,
so far.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So well. Those polls may be supporting our support of Israel,
but the polls that I've read, it's only sixteen to
nineteen percent that want the US to actually fly the
B two and get involved. You know. So I don't know,
but you know, you can't make your decision based upon
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which way there was.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
This is true. This is true when the fate of
the world is in the hands of a president. What
Tom Dick and Harry says is while important, not crucial.
What's crucial is what needs to be done and in fact,
and I support us going in there if necessary, but
(29:20):
I support it being hit the target, be gone, be
done with it. That's well, and that's and that's what
I believe should happen in Iraq. Well, that hit the targets,
do what we do with our technology and lead.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, but they always say that, you know, it's it's
never been completed without boots on the ground. Now, if
you let the Israelis be the boots on the ground
and we just fly over and drop two and you know,
they do what they want to have done. I don't
know if that's gonna you know, and flame everybody or not.
But you know, there are a few things you remember,
(29:57):
and number one is both Russia in China are saying
there are one hundred percent behind Iron and then you've
got our NATO ally that is also behind Iran.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, but I'm a firm believer boots don't have to
be on the ground, because you have you're a.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Sailor, you don't like the army, you're you know, you'd
rather shoot them from the set.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, that's not it but I believe boots are not
solely on the ground by US or Israel, because if
you weaken this this regime enough, there is enough of
an anti regime sentiment in that country that if they're
weak enough that the people believe they can rise up
and get rid of it, they will but it. But
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you have to weaken them enough that this it's they're
willing to do that. The boots on the ground don't
have to be US. The boots on the ground can
be the people of Iran, or at least the ones
brave enough to do something.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I also believe that you know, they can do enough dammage.
If they try to shoot a ICBM, they probably are
not going to be shooting it out of that four
door facility from three hundred feet down. I don't think
that's I don't think that's a launch site. Okay, that's
(31:16):
it's the enrichment site. So uh, I don't know they've
got anything left on the surface.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean, I say at the beginning, That's why I
said at the beginning that you know, if you eliminate
their ability to deliver it. Now that said, that doesn't
mean that Iran is not capable of cyber attacks if
they're not and they're not capable of their own boots
on the ground. When it comes to terrorist networks around
the world and all that jazz.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, if they were somehow able to scrape together a
launchpad and fire one, with all of the stuff that's
being watched there and Israel being right there, I would
think I don't know how long it takes an ICBM
to get up to speed, but you know, it would like.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
To be accepted. I believe that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
They are going to have some guy sitting there with
a missile launcher on his shoulders shoot down an ICBM,
you know, with the sidewinder missile. But I gotta believe
that if they did launch the first of one or two,
if they could scrape it together and do that, I
do think that with the oversight there, that that thing
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wouldn't finish it's upward climb before it would be taken
out of the sky.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh exactly. And the iron dome that of Israel, which
is basically the Patriot missile on steroids, and the fact
that we also have a missile intercept and intercepting interception
missiles system, Uh yeah, I agree, And that there have
been a few Iranian missiles that have gotten through that defense.
(32:54):
But it'll hit Hypa the other day and you know,
tell me so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, but that's funny. A couple of it's away.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know, it's been minimal damage and it's been a
very very very very low percentage of missiles have gotten through.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well, but the travel time of that missile isn't very much.
But you know, trying to if they're trying to send
a missile to the US, you know that's not a
five minute operation.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Oh yeah, that thing's gone. You know that we sit
there and watch and wait until it's over the ocean,
you know, and hit it. But and Israel, I think
would do the same thing absolutely, So I'm not overly
worried about Iran's capabilities. I think they could take.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They could take a warhead and put it in the
truck and see if they could drive it into Israel
and explode it and detonated, you know, without But you know,
the ICBM is for the US, you know, it's not
for it's not for Israel.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, they want to send a missile over is what
if they can't? You But yeah, you're right, And like
I said earlier, while I believe that Iran's fangs have
been they've been defamed. I do as I said earlier.
They still got you know, cyber attack capabilities, terrorist networks
and get that. But that doesn't mean that you well,
you don't want to make them mad because he sit
a terrorist group. You've got to take care of business.
(34:10):
You gotta do what you gotta do. And if he
is stung in the process a little bit, you know,
then you know, you try not to, but that's what happens.
I'm and I'm not saying that I'm willing to take
a nuclear strike or something I got. I'm saying, you
got what you got to do. Them with a nuclear warhead,
regardless of delivery system, is not a good thing. I
am full support of the B two dropping a bunker
(34:33):
buster and another one behind it if that's what it takes,
and us doing it. Now. That said, I don't believe
that's Trump being a warmonger. I don't believe that's him
betraying his promise of being a peacemaker. I believe that's
what's necessary. All right, Well, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
He's been promising that he will not let them get
a nuclear warhead.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Exactly, and and and like I said, for the most part,
he's that they're support for that. All right, now, before
we lose time too much time here, I want you to Alan,
and we had to have two other things I want
to talk about. So, Alan, this is a very big conversation.
We took a lot more time, and I thought we would,
but I'm glad we did because it is important. This
is an important topic, Israel's safety I think goes beyond
(35:18):
just the region and our ally and Dennis. I didn't
say this when I was talking to Dennis, but I
also believe there's spiritual implications. I'm a firm believer that
the Abrahamic promise, those who curse you will be cursed,
those who support you will be supported. I defend you'll
(35:39):
be defended, and so on and so forth. Bless you.
That's it. Bless you will be blessed. I believe that,
in addition to all the other things I've said. So, Alan,
what's your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I think you both covered it pretty well. They I
don't know how many people are actually or bongers or
happy to go to war and not.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You think of a couple of moves that probably would
be But anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I was thinking people.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I know how.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Given that the vast majority don't want war doesn't mean
you won't have to. Given what other people, other countries do,
sometimes the bully just has to be beaten down. Don't
want to not looking forward to it. But with all
(36:32):
the threats, the attitude supporting of terrorism. This is and
again I'm not talking necessarily about the country, the people,
the culture. It's the administration that's what runs the country, right,
and they collectively are about domination control And if they
(37:03):
just stayed within their borders, then that wouldn't be our business.
But they're not staying within their borders. And when you
support terrorist groups that go out and about to different
places in the world, you've left your borders. Nobody wanted
World War One, but look what happened. We did everything
(37:25):
we could to stay out of World War Two, but
Japan gave us the invitation we couldn't refuse. Bullies will
find a way until you stop them, and being willing
to stop them doesn't make you a war longer. It
means you actually want peace, but you'll stand up against
(37:48):
those that would take it from you. And if we
have technology that can short circuit this whole activity, use it.
You can take out their their power producers, they have
no power. We're good. Take out that building underground. Think
(38:12):
about this, if there is that massive building three hundred
feet underground? Okay, how big is the building, Doug?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You know, I don't remember. I was looking at the dimensions.
What they believed the dimensions to be. They don't know
for sure. Yeah, but what they believed to be the
dimensions I really don't remember. But it's fairly good size. Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
How much time and money did that administration pay to
get that thing built?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well know, how much money did Obama give to them?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I haven't seen the books yet. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, I'm sure that was That was a good chunk
of it.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
The point is funding was used to do that to
help proves their aggressiveness instead of let's say, take care
of their own people, right to me, do what's needed
to shut this down as fast as possible.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You go.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Well, and that's and that goes across the board. And
one of the examples I've used with people lately, and
I actually kind of refer to a little bit on
Douglas of Gibbs dot com on the promo page for
today's program, sort of like slaying a dragon. What's the
best way to slay the dragon? If you can't kill
it because the armor is so thick, well, you disable
(39:33):
its ability to fly, to move, and to shoot fire
out of his mouth. In other words, you go after
its source of power. If it is a lame, the
fireless dragon, it's probably the site. Maybe falling over on
something's probably not can do a whole lot of damage.
And that's what's going on here with Iran. You take
out its ability, it's source of power. And the same
(39:55):
thing goes on when it comes to following the money.
Follow the money. The money is what gives certain things
that source of power. Not just Iran, but how about
those riots going on, the Ice riots and so what
So what the Trump administrations do doing through the FBI
and I r S is they are investigating who is
(40:18):
funding those efforts to function those rights, those gatherings, those
peaceful demonstrations, And they put out the word, hey, if
you're funding this, uh, this domestic violence, this insurrection type activity,
you will you can be imprisoned and fined. It will happen.
(40:42):
They are going after the monetary source of power. Same
thing when it comes to what the left does within
the government and the deep state, and this just came
down just what was it a couple of days ago?
Is that for individuals got and it pleaded guilty to
participating in a bribery scheme involving the USAID US Agency
(41:06):
for International Development, which resulted in fourteen contracts worth more
than five hundred and fifty million dollars being improperly awarded
to companies involved in the front. You go after the money,
and you go after those who are playing games with
the money. And guess what happens once you you take
care of that. The You know, my wife and I
(41:27):
were talking about judges and the and how judges are
acting unconstitutionally. It feat a couple. It'd be amazing how
how well the other ones start to behave usaid here.
You got four of them, go after them, make sure
that they get some some nice imprisonment time, and they
keep investigating. It'll be amazing how well everybody else starts
(41:48):
to operate and and mind the law.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Just need a good orangine jumpsuit, spy.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's It's like even with your children, right,
if you know you got you got a what was
it like sixteen kids? There, Alan, And so you know,
you grab one of those kids and you get onto them.
Are not cleaning the room. The other fifteen are cleaning
the room. All right, maybe it's not that many, but
you know, you know, you got got your little brood there.
(42:19):
You got your little baseball team if you count, if
you count everybody who visits every once in a while too.
But but my point is that that's how you do it.
You go after the source of power. And Trump is
also doing that when it comes to the money in
the deep state and the riots and Usaid and the
deep state that that machine is. You take off its legs,
(42:43):
you take off its wings, and you remove its ability
to breathe fire, and it's a lot easier to get
under control. Alan, What do you think about that, especially
when it comes to the fact that the FBI, in
the I R S under a Trump's direction, is putting
those riot funders on notice with the imprisonment or finds
coming if you keep this up, if we find out,
you get it and four pe guilty in a five
(43:05):
hundred and fifty million dollar USAID fraud scheme. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Always find and follow the money, and since most people
don't do these big kind of transactions in cash, they
leave a very searchable trail as to where the money
came from and where it went. When it comes to
(43:33):
these riots or whatever, or you know, activities in LA
that are mostly peaceful. Well, if you arrest somebody, you
want to look at their bank account, what transactions are
going on in their bank account, what came in and
where if something unusual came in, especially a whole dollar amount,
(44:00):
where did it come from? And you just start backtracking.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Just do an accounting review, right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's accounting review, simple, plane easy and undeniable. It's just interesting.
And then once you get into into knowing some of
the people involved, you'd start looking at their text messages,
(44:28):
their emails, phone calls. Who are you talking to you?
What message did you leave? How were you know? How
is it you gave this person two thousand dollars? Why
and where did you get the money to do it? So, yeah,
following the money is absolutely essential because.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Coming to theater soon Ben Affleck step Aside and the
the the sequel to the sequel Adam Meyer, starting in
the Accountant three, what do you think sound good?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Love it?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
All you do is you hunt it down with bank
statements and all these sort of documents, and you can
you'll again, if you want to hide something, you stay
in cash.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
There. What's your thoughts, man, it looks like, uh, the
President Trump is slaying the dragon by targeting its monetary
source of power and the corruption uh in USA, Idea
and other places. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Well, I think it takes too long because everything Alan
is saying, I mean, you can have that in the
same day. They're coming to the bank account. Where did
the two thousand come from? It came from this bank.
You go to that bank, you look at that bank
account and you say, where did this money come from?
You know, it doesn't take a week to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, but then you got adjudicated. Then there's the h I.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Know, the people can appeal stuff, but I mean, you know,
I mean you can find out where came from, you know,
and it goes back to you know, Soros, It goes
back to this other guy who had never heard of
but you know, in the last month, you know, a
guy here, I think in California they said he was,
you know, doing a lot of the money. You know,
(46:18):
And then you talk to the guys that are out
there getting paid twenty five bucks an hour. You know
that we're busted in Where did you come from? Who
paid for your bus ticket? I mean you ought to
be able to do this now. You know, the slogan
orange man bad has been around for a long time now, right, Yeah,
so I like using the word orange. I would just say, okay,
(46:41):
now we're going to do like I said, We're going
to do orange therapy jumpsuit style, you know. And all
you got to do is go out and say, well,
we have evidence. We have evidence of this person, say,
testifying before Congress and then a month later being on
CNN Brennan saying one hundred and eighty degree he's different.
(47:01):
You have that, Well who is he lying to?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
You know?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
And arrest them. You know they got CALLI with the
eighty six forty seven. You know what's that mean? Well,
you know they brought them in for questioning. Well, arrest them.
You know they've arrested Jay six Ers for far less
than that. You know, start arresting these guys, start doing
the perp walk. You don't have to go in with
(47:26):
twenty guys at four am with the CNN just happening
to be there to get it on camera. You know,
go ahead and do it at ten thirty in the
afternoon by going into their office and just walking them
out in front of all their employees with hands behind
their back. You know, get a little orange therapy going,
and you're right, things will start to collapse. But until
(47:47):
the orange starts, nothing else is going to happen.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
This.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Give me another week, give me another month. You know,
Durham report went on for four years. You know, it
was it was all smoking mirrors.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Well, the post is they lie. People believe their lies,
and they're good at it, and they've been doing that long.
Our tar system is based on a foundation of lies.
It's like I was talking to my neighbor and he's like, well,
I'm not constitutional for the president to say that the
Bible and prayer should be back in schools, and so
it's also in constitution for the Federal gummat to be
given the money for price and be dictating at all.
(48:24):
And and so how about we just then kill the
Department of Education and kill all the funny Well you
don't do that. Well wait a second, you just got
mad that the Federal gumm has got some say on
the exacting I It has say on the education system.
If they're gonna give them money, the say is going
to follow. That's the way it works. But see when
you start using a little bit logic, then their lives
fall apart. And the thing is, it's like, you know,
(48:46):
the Left was trying to create this this rift between
that Elon Musk and Trump didn't work. Now they're trying
to do it between Trump and Tolci Gabbert. General Flint says,
it's all a setup. They're lying, crack moving on the
big beautiful bill. Are all lies.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
They cannot lie on a trail of money. Well you can't,
well you can't. You can't lie to Alan. You know,
if Allan has access, he'll find out the facts and
the facts are not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Well, and eventually lies do get found out. It's like
right now we're you know, we're starting now to see
we have a top FDA official admitting that she refused
to COVID nineteen vaccine while she's pregnant because she knew
it was dangerous, but she was lying as part of
the SDA. Oh no, it's safe. I'm not gonna take
it to It's dangerous, but it's safe, you know. And
eventually these do lis do come to surface. But the
(49:38):
problem is, like what you were saying, it takes too long.
You know, the orange humps need to be start flying
off the shelves. When we got another the headline I've
got in here that once again the lies. Toyota chairman
says that a single EV produces as much pollution as
three hybrids over its total life cycle. All this electrical
(50:00):
out car and electric you know, electric get you know,
going on electrics gonna save us and all that, it's
a lie. It's all a lie. Top doctor blow's whistle.
Hospitals boosted COVID desks, use some euthanizing patients. Oh well, no,
the numbers were hot. You were lying. They lie about watchings,
They lie about January sixth. They lie, that's what they do.
(50:21):
Why because they're rotten inside. And when you're rotten inside,
rot comes out of your mouth. Why don't you wrap
that thought up? Uh, Dennis, Then we'll get to Allen
and then we'll say good day. Since we're about five
and a half minutes left of the program.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Well, I really don't have much to add to it.
I mean, like I say, there are facts, and they
have to me they have enough facts you know enough
probable cause to indict people and go after people. And
I don't know why they don't do it by now.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Well, they use their and they use their deception for
agitation because they figure if they get the it's and
it goes back to up and saying along. It's sort
of like a bully in the schoolyard poking you in
the chest. He's not poking you in chest to be
a bully. He's poking your chest to get you take
a swing. Once you take your swing, then he beats
you to a pope and says, well, he threw the
first swing. That's what they're trying to do. It's agitation.
That's what they did on January sixth. Why do they
(51:16):
have all kinds of images and video of a bunch
of maga people very angry because they're blowing up flash
bangs in their face, so stuff like that. It's agitation.
All of the deception is agitation. It's designed to get
a reaction so that they can move forward. What they
do alan based on these final things we've said. With
(51:36):
about three and a half minutes left to go, what's
your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Any specific question, all of it?
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Come on now, you could do it. I mean, we've
got we've got the follow the money. They're lying. There's corruption,
but that's what they do, right.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Well, the follow the money, of course, and that's understanding
the transactions, the source, the use, the movement.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
That, given the.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Way our system works, is under undeniable information and ultimately accessible.
The lying. It's in some ways. I think the lying
is complex in that it could be for one reason,
it could be multiple reasons. Now some people might.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
The lying they're being deceptive. Who cares what the reason is.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I'm going into the mind.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Of the liar. Okay, that's fun, I get not really,
it's pretty It's like immigration, well, Doug, yeah, but even
though they broke the law come in to the country,
they do the jobs that you don't want to do
when they and they've been following the rules ever since.
Well yeah, it's soon broke into my house. But that
don't worry. He's following the rules ever since he's been
in the house. He's still broke in the aware what
(53:02):
the reason is? I don't care what the feel.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Good all but no, no, okay, I'm trying to understand
the liar.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
If you want to tell you what, I'll tell you
right now. How to understand it? They want power and
they lie tog in it.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
And another way to say that is they they believe
in their agenda, their vision, their view, their belief, and
therefore they get to lie to achieve.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
The agenda and justify the means.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
The fact that they're not getting their agenda, they just
want to believe it. Or on the other hand, as
you're talking about, this is a huge power play.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
I cannot have enough power. I don't care how I
amass it. I don't care how I take it. I
don't care who I heard in the process. Look at
of the you know, look at what the the royalty
did way back in the day. It didn't matter how
how starved their subjects were. They had the castles, they
(54:13):
had the servants, they had everything, and they can never
have enough.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah, it's just not monarchies. I mean no Stalin mao,
uh pull pot. You know, list goes on and on
and on.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Right, when you're dealing with that kind of personality, they
may actually have a justification in their mind. That doesn't
mean right that.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
I said, and I've said that to dentists, you know,
where I believe deep down they believe they're doing good.
He says, no, they're no, they're doing evil. No, but
they believe the evil is okay for them to achieve
what they believe to be good. And I think you're right.
All right, we got less than a minute left, So
thank you Joeen for spending the time on the program.
Plug yourself real quick there allan.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Said at F E D E ED dot us for
Basic Monetary System Education.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
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