Constitution_Radio_08_09_25

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And welcome for see Constitution Radio k MET fourteen ninety am.
I have so many shows right at the moment, it's
hard to tell which show is which, and that's just
the way it is. And yes, for those of you
watch on km T TV, my screen is writing my glasses.
Sometimes I get it kind of off my glasses a
little bit. But I'm right now. I'm onney able to

(00:28):
do the things. If that would do it. Welcome to
the program. And we've been busy, are really busy. There's
a lot going on, and for good reason, you know.
And it's funny. I was just I'm just talking to
somebody the other day. So a matter of fact, I

(00:49):
was talking about this the other day, and I'm trying
to remember now I don't have it up because for
some reason, my computer is not wanting to play nice
with me. But the let's see here, see if I
find the article real quick, we have a there we go.
I found it so Democratic Representative Delia Ramirez of Illinois.

(01:14):
That's her name. I know the story. I couldn't remember
her name because she's so irrelevant to me. The only
reason why I'm even talking about her is because the
garbage she's pulling h so. Delia Ramirez, representative in Illinois,
who is it? Says in the article born of immigrants.

(01:36):
I don't know if they were legal aliens. I don't
know if she was born on American soil or born
before and then they jumped the border, or she's an
ancre baby. I don't know. I know, I know what
the article tells me. But here's what it does say.
And I don't care if she was born on the
United United States soil, born outside the country, born of

(01:58):
legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, I don't care. This is wrong,
she said at the second Annual Pan American Congress. What
is a Pan American Congress? Is it just a get together?
Is an a rally? Is it a an attempt to
have a parallel speaking of parallel allen a parallel? Uh

(02:23):
a legislative body, international legislation. I don't know. But speaking
at the second Annual Pan American Congress in Mexico City,
she says, this is quote from the article at foxnews
dot com. I'm a proud Waa Maulin before I'm an American.

(02:47):
I'm a proud gua a Marlin before I'm an American?
Are you kidding me? So, uh, last night I was
on Patriot Soapbox and I had my wife on the air.
My wife is an immigrant. I know how I feel
about this. I know it probably angers you listeners unless

(03:07):
you're a lefty curious about this show. I know how
it makes me feel. The way it makes me feel
is are you what are you doing in Congress If
your allegiance is to another country? Why are you even
in Congress in the first place? What does your citizen

(03:28):
mean nothing? Citizenship to America mean nothing to you? Is
this something that is just something you did so that
you could inject your outsider influence into our system. So
I had my wife on last night for the Douglas v.
Gibs show on Patriot Soapbox. I said, Hey, as an immigrant,

(03:55):
I need to hear what you got to say. Because
I didn't come to this country seeking a better life.
I was blessed being born here, having American parents, been
raised with you know, good history lessons and understanding what
it's all about. And so, and I'm fortunate and I'm

(04:18):
excited about that that I have that opportunity as an American.
But how does that make you feel? You came from
another country? Granted, she's been here all over life. Came
here as a kid before she could really remember it.
But she grew up in a household. Her father very

(04:40):
excited about being, you know, in the American system, patriotic,
loves this country, loved his country, passed away recently. Her
mother not so much. Never learned English, so she came
up in this I don't know if it was a
divided household, but you know, I used to joke when
we would visit her parents' house because the way her

(05:03):
mom had the house run and the way it was
kind of in the style because I've been to her
aunt's house down to Mexico and stuff like that, and
almost felt like when I went through the front door,
I would I stepped through a portal into Mexico. So
Virginia may or may not have grown up with the heavy,
heavy Mexican influence, but enough that she's a good immigrant.

(05:27):
She's looking at it from a different point of view
than I am. And she says, I'm angry, get out
of the country. If you don't, if you don't have
allegiance to the country, you're in Congress floor, get out
of our country. I'm like, well, I think she was
born here. I don't care. Denaturalize her, take away her citizenship,
get her out of the country. I'm like, wow. Now

(05:49):
the chat room loved it. They responded quite well to it,
and it sparked outrage. What Ramira said sparked out outrage
on social media. Conservatives, where is your allegiance? If you
don't want to be here, if you hate America, you're

(06:12):
either an idiot or you seek to change us to
something else. You are an invader. And if that's the case,
get out of my country. Even more so now you know,
and you know as a constitutionalist, what the founding fathers desired,

(06:37):
what they wanted, what the Constitution says, what the debates were,
what the history is. That's all important to me. And
one of the things that I have surmised from looking
back on history is that being an American citizen is
a special thing.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Being born here and like I said earlier, and having
that American experience growing up, Man, I won the lottery.
When it comes to the world. I've traveled the world.
This is it, man, this is the place to be.
There is no other place like this place. Even the

(07:17):
countries that are quote unquote a part of Western civilization,
that I've been to, which in my case at the
time back in the eighties, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea,
and Australia. Western culture, even though they're in the Far East,
never made I've never made it to Europe. From what
I'm hearing, I probably don't want to now. But even

(07:38):
those countries with Western influence, with more or less free
market systems still could not, cannot, and will never probably
hold a candle to what being an Americans and as
being a citizen of the United States, we enjoy the

(08:00):
benefits of that citizenship. We get special things for being
a citizen an Article four Section two. It's the privileges
and immunities. And if you're not a citizen of the
United States, but you're here for whatever reason visa student, resident,

(08:21):
alien identification, green card, illegal, whatever, it's great to be here,
still better to be here than anywhere else. But you
don't fall under the full jurisdiction of the United States.
If you're not here as a citizen or you didn't naturalize,

(08:41):
you don't have the same benefits, rights, and advantages one
might have who is a citizen. Non citizens physically inside
the United States and non citizens in any country I
don't care what country it is. I mean, if I
was visiting France, if I was visiting and if I
was visiting Israel, not gonna have the same privileges and

(09:04):
immunities of the people who live there as citizens, not
just residency citizenship. If you're a guest, you're non citizen,
you're a guest in the country, there's certain limitations and
conditions apply. That's the reason why you've seen the Secretary

(09:26):
of State Marco Rubio saying, Hey, you're going to be
at a protest against America supporting Palestinian madness, and you're
on a resident alien ID. You broke the conditions out
of here. It makes sense if someone visits your house,

(09:50):
they don't have the full allowances of what someone who
lives in the house has. If I was to go
over to Allen's house, I wouldn't kick my feed up
on the coffee table, the run to the fridge and
pull out uh whatever drinks are in there, probably water
if I know the guy, water and milk, and go

(10:12):
through the closet and run rummage through thing. No, I'm
a guest, and if I'm doing those types of things,
Alan or the owner of whatever home it is that
anybody's in who's a guest has every right to say
get out. I don't want you inside my house anymore.
You're breaking the rules, so well, you get to do that.

(10:34):
I live here, this is my home. You're a guest.
You don't get to do that. Get out. The word citizen,
being a citizen is important throughout history. It goes beyond
just being city ci city township. That's where it comes from.

(10:55):
But it means more than just city dweller, means more
than a bunch of citizens that hang out together. A
bunch of citizens goes way beyond that. In Greece, the
terminology they used didn't just mean residency. It was it

(11:16):
referred to someone who belonged to the city state and
had the rights and responsibilities of civic life. In other words,
they belonged to the community and they practiced active participation
in the political, legal and military life of that city state.

(11:37):
With citizenship came responsibility. Rome was the same way. Europe
at one time was the same way. And then as
the kings and the monarchies began to do their thing,
the idea of what it was to be a citizen
began to get lost. The average the common man was

(12:02):
a subject bound by allegiance to a monarch with a
little to no political agency. Now, by the late fourteenth century,
citizen in Europe came to mean a freeman or a
permanent inhabitant of a country, to distinguish the people from
foreigners and aliens. But it was also given to those

(12:26):
that were nobility. In other words, citizens were not slaves
or subjects. And when the founding fathers went to create
this wonderful system we have here Declaration of Independence, Constitution
the United States, and all the debates and fights and

(12:48):
everything else that went along with it, they rejected that
model that was going on in Europe outright. What they
envisioned was the republic, a democracy, a republic where citizens
were not subjects of the government but masters of it.

(13:10):
A subject is subject to the demands of a monarchy
or whatever the system is. But in the United States government,
the people were in charge, became in charge. The United
States government became subject to the demands of the people

(13:32):
through consent of the governed, representation and other direct and
indirect influences. By the way the people in our republic.
And the shift was revolutionary, and the European elites they
began to panic. It's all assumed to fail. It's not
going to work. They were claiming it was going to fail.

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Not because they knew it was going to fail. They
hoped it would fail because they didn't want it to succeed,
because if it did, their people might start demanding the
same thing. Because citizenship in America wasn't merely a legal status,
it was more in line with these ancient governments where

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with citizenship became responsibility, that with citizenship you were a
part of something greater. Citizenship in America, as it did
in older ancient times, became a moral and political identity
rooted in allegiance, responsibility, and sovereignty. Now we get back

(14:39):
to Ramirez and ilhan Omar, who says, hey, she's here
to represent Somalia. Citizenship is important, But to the founders,
what was even more important than that citizenship was allegiance
to the country as a citizen. The founders were deeply

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concerned about divided loyalties. They had dealt with divided loyalties
during the Revolutionary War. The Tories, loyalists, those loyal to
the British Empire fought against took arms, fought with the
British and against the Patriots, and they understood that based

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on just that experience, plus much more divided loyalties are dangerous.
Citizenship carries with it loyalty, responsibilities, civic duties. So in
the Constitution president and vice president needs to be a
natural born citizen. It was an attempt to ensure undivided
allegiance at the highest levels of power. Members of Congress

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must be citizens for a set number of years, reflecting
the need for assimilation and loyalty. And the Naturalization Act
of seventeen ninety. Understand, Congress and the Constitution didn't go
into effect it until seventeen eighty nine, in a year
this came out of that Congress. The Naturalization Act of

(16:06):
seventeen ninety required immigrants to renounce allegiances and affirm loyalty
to the US Constitution. And that's a policy is still
in place today when it comes to naturalization. My wife
naturalized two thousand and seven, and I can still remember
she had this idea of maybe having a dual citizenship
because she wanted to maybe be able to still buy
property in Mexico. Now, the United States does not recognize

(16:28):
dual citizenship. If you naturalize at a people are dual citizens.
But the United States law doesn't recognize that. If you're
going to naturalize as a United States citizen, you're required
to renounce all other allegiances. You are required to renounce

(16:49):
your citizenship and your allegiance to whatever country you came from,
and any other allegiances. And this is not just an
idea that was believed in by the founding fathers after
the War between the States, when those guys we're trying
to figure out what to do regarding these emancipated slaves, say, man,
we want to make sure they also enjoy the benefits

(17:13):
of what it means to be a citizen of the
United States of America. We want to make sure that
these newly emancipated slaves and their children are given the
same benefits that they enjoy American citizenship the same way

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traditionally we have throughout the history of this country. But
also we have to do it in a way that
we make sure we guard against divided loyalties, that we
make sure that it's understood that if you're gonna be
a citizen. Here's a language from the Civil Rights Act
of eighteen sixty six, all persons born in the United

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States and not subject to any foreign and power. Are citizens. Hey,
the language of that document was deliberate. Senator Lyman Trumbull
explained that the language included the children of foreigners and aliens,
tribal members. These are Indians that have not left their
tribe and taken and gone through the process to become

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a citizen. So just because they're born on America of soil,
and I know there's been law ever since that says, oh,
they're all citizens now, and that's and I'm not a
fan of that. If your your loyalty is going to
be to something else, then that's where your lotate lies.
And that's what you're a citizen is. So children born
to foreigners, aliens, tribal members, foreign diplomats, foreign ambassadors, and

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other foreign government consuls and ministers, according to Senator Laman Trumble,
not a citizen automatically. The language of the Civil Rights
Act was carried into the language of the citizenship clause
of the Fourteenth Amendment all persons born or naturalized in
the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. In
eighteen sixty six, during congressional testimony regarding the citizenship clause.

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Senator Jacob Howard clarified that subject to the jurisdiction meant
full allegiance, not mere physical presence. This was not a
blanket endorsement of birthright citizenship, as some might argue, but
a constitutional affirmation of allegiance based citizenship. The Founding fathers,

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to them, citizenship was a covenant, a mutual bond between
the individual and the republic, and that required allegiance to
the Constitution, participation in civic life, and defensive liberty against tyranny.
We know they believed this. Benjamin Franklin said it famously, clearly,

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warning a republic if you can keep it, participation, responsibility.
Citizenship was not just a privilege, and is not just
a privilege. It's a responsibility, and that responsibility demands undivided loyalty.
So I was in a show with Alan a couple

(20:15):
of sun days ago, and somebody in the chat room
type citizen equal subject, slave, and so I argue with
them and said, no, no, no, no. It says that
you're subject to the laws of the country. You're a citizen.
That doesn't make you a subject. Being subject to laws
doesn't mean a subject in the manner as it meant
in the old world. Then I decided to pull out

(20:36):
my old Black's Law dictionary, because I've got one, actually,
I've got two copies, and I looked up citizen. Here's
what I found. Listen carefully, one who, under the Constitution
and laws of the United States or of a particular
state is a member of the political community, owing allegiance
and being entitled to the enjoyment of full rights. Definition

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nails it. But notice there are two key elements there.
Allegiance a citizen owes loyalty to their country. The legal
scholars who say, to the governing authority, I really don't
have loyalty to the governing authority. I have loyalty to
my country, this difference between nationalism and patriotism. And then

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the other key element in that definition's rights. A citizen
is entitled a full access of their natural rights within
that political community. Citizenship is not just about residency or
where you were born. It's about a political membership and
undivided allegiance. Ramirez and ilhan Omar. It's a reciprocal relationship.

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The citizen supports republic, and the republic secures the citizens' rights.
And instead, now we have these idiots out there twisting
for their narrative what it means to be a citizen,
or that being a citizen just means being plopped down
on the dirt, or that somehow being a citizen and

(22:16):
a subject the same thing. We got both sides of
the argument with stupidity. Set aside your stupidity. If you're
listening to this and you're one of those people who
believe illegal aliens have all the rights of all the citizens,
or if you believe that the word citizen means subject
and slave, both sides. Set down your stupidity, put it

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in the jar, stick it on some shelf, and then
shoot it into pieces, and listen to me. Citizenship in
the United States, it's a wonderful thing. It is bestowed
upon us. We inherited it because of the framers the Constitution.

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We have this wonderful thing. If you want to toss
privileges and immunities of citizenship, or the direction of illegal
aliens or people who like Ramirez and ilhan Omar, who
don't have any allegiance to this country, they bear no
allegiance or plan to take any responsibility towards the benefits
of that citizenship, or the responsibilities or the duties you

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go along with it. Remember the legal aliens. They broke
American law in the first place just to get here.
If someone breaks into my house, that doesn't make them
a member of the household. They don't get all the
privileges and immunities, and if anything, they need to be
thrown out. If they don't respect the laws of this country,

(23:44):
then they don't respect the American system. And if they
don't respect the American system and they have no loyalty,
they're not willing to assimilate, they're not willing to give
any allegiance, then they care less about the tradition of
American citizenship and they don't need to be here. They
need to be gone. Well, Doug, that's cold and heartless. No,

(24:05):
it's not you break into my house. I've thrown you out.
You break into a labor union meeting and you don't
have that little labor card to show you're a member
of the union. Guess what they're doing. They're throwing you
out the door because you're either a liar, a crook,
or a spy. Let's take a break. When we come back.

(24:28):
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Douglas P. Gibbs and So, I'm not sure what you
want to start with here, because I know that Dennis's
response is gonna be fiery, Allen's is gonna be analytical.
Let's go Dennis first. I'm ready for the fire. I want.
I want the vulture swooping in. Dennis Ramirez has ticked

(28:22):
me off. Ill han Omar's ticked me off. All these
illegal aliens, these democrats, they're not taking citizenship seriously. The
citizenship is not just residency. There's more to it than that.
What's your thoughts? Go ahead, Dennis, can't hear you? Can

(28:46):
you hear me? We can hear you now, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Okay, Uh, this is not just a general discussion about
the citizenship of people that are here under questionable or
undefined circumstance. I mean, these are people that claim to
be citizens because they're elected. They are in the Congress

(29:11):
of the United States. I find it interesting that one
is in Illinois and the other ones in what Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
States that aren't any anywhere near the southern border. We
just lost your audio again. By the way, he's having
mic issues. I believe right, Dennis. I'll give you a
couple more seconds. Otherwise I got to go to Alan
until you we get it. I'll figure it out. What's

(29:45):
the problem. You can't hear me or not? Yeah, now
you're back. Now you're back. Well, well, I agree with
what you say. I think we needs to be done.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
And maybe they're going to do it because they're cracking
down on comy and they're doing some suboenias on other people.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
But they ought to.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Go into ilhan Omar and they ought to arrest her
for one of the six crimes that you've already talked
about in your articles, you know, the out of holder
accountable for immigration fraud, for marital fraud, for tax fraud.
You know, for this is how to go after I
mean they're going after Shift and then the other lady.

(30:24):
They probably ought to go after her to find out
if she's really a citizen or not. I mean, Trump
has asked the question in some generic things. He's going
through the census now and uh going to redo the
electoral college and the numbers to the states for representatives,

(30:45):
you know, by cleaning things up, and you know, so,
I mean, you know, they're tracking on some pretty good things.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
And remember it's this website she brags that alien.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Well, you know, I think they just ought to go
after her and and verify is how is she claiming citizenship?
If she's claiming it because of an anchor baby, then
they got to challenge it. But that goes back to
you know, not to get into our lawsuit. That's all
part of what we wanted to get defined is you know,

(31:23):
not only the fact that you're a natural born citizen,
but also the fourteenth Amendment. You know what that really means, jurisdiction.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
The road there you go.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
So so you know, I think they got to go
after these two clowns, and when they do, they would
have to define well, whatever they come up with with
them would would wind up applying to everybody else who
came in like them. And and we need to we
need to clear them out and uh throw them out.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
I like what Texas is doing with the Democrats left,
you know, they're trying to get them all thrown out
because they aren't there doing their job. Well, these two
haven't left, but they aren't on board with the priority
being America. They've said, I'm here for Somalia. I'm here
for Guatemala, you know, and who's electing them the people

(32:21):
that elected them in the case of illahand may very
well be a bunch of Somalis that are also they're illegal,
but they are, they're on the voter rolls, and if
you wipe all of them out, then ill Hand probably
couldn't get elected. So it's a self fulfilling problem, and
it's epitomized and captured by these two that take an

(32:43):
oath when they enter the Congress. But they're basically saying
they're violating the oath, you know, because they go to
Pan America Congress and they are there to represent Guatemala
or Somalia, not the American citizens, supposedly citizens that elected them.

(33:05):
So I think they ought to go after him, just
plan out, you know. I mean, they got the big
beautiful bill. Now they've got plenty of money and I'd
go after these people that come out and do this stuff,
just like they want to go out to Soros for
backing you know, Black Lives Matters and the election fraud.
You know, they're trying to connect all the dots. They're

(33:27):
trying to go beyond the person who did the fraud.
They're trying to go to the people that allowed the fraud,
that planned the fraud, that paid for the fraud. Well,
you know these two people. To me, both these ladies
are frauds and they ought to be extinguished.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
There you go, all right, Alan, Now we'll get the
analytical end. Oh not me, Yeah, yeah, you now you've
heard what I've got to say. Dennis had to say.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Well, what I'm saying is analytically, I mean, it makes
sense you just call on these guys.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, but you're but your analysis has some you know,
or or or like you know, fiery darts at the
same time, yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Or flamethrowers. Yeah. Okay, anyway, let's begin with citizen. What
is a citizen? And you've addressed part of this. A
citizen is a person who, by place of birth, nationality
of one or both parents, or naturalization, is granted full
rights and responsibilities as a member of the nation or community.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
And responsibilities is this from just a regular old dictionary. Yes, okay.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
The thing the thing I like about that is that
it's about you get a lot of benefits by being
a citizen of a country, especially ours, But responsibilities is
another way of saying give back. Got to give back
to it.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Mhm.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
And you talked about what your wife in Virginia had
to go through. I've talked about what my grandfather had
to go through to not only get into the country,
but bring his wife and first child into countries seven
years later. What he had to swear to and yeah,
he had a swear that he gave up any connection

(35:21):
with any foreign prince, potentate, anything. If you're if you
are going to naturalize to become an American citizen, whatever
connection or connections you had anywhere else in the world,
you abandoned them. There's a reason for that. And I
imagine you know, if you go I can't. I can

(35:44):
think about it, but I have no experience with it.
When they're fighting the British, the monarchy, the Red Coats,
and the Tories. Okay, that sticks. So if you're not
going to be a citizen in you're out of here.
We don't want you. You made the point about natural

(36:05):
born citizen. For the House and Senate, you had to
be a citizen to become the president, and with the
twelfth Amendment, to be VP when they elected them separately,
you had to be no person except a natural born
citizen or a citizen at the time of the adoption
of the Constitution, because at that moment in time there

(36:27):
was no natural born citizen old enough. But that's how
important natural born citizen is. Anyway, speaking of these two ladies,
apparently they had to take an oath to get into office,
right and now the Constitution it doesn't dictate exactly the words,

(36:53):
but this is basically what happened in the eighteen sixties.
I do solemnly swear or affirm, if you don't want
to swear, that I will support and listen to this.
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United
States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That I will

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bear the true faith and allegiance to the saying, that
I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or
purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully
discharge the duties of the office on which I'm about
to enter. So help me God. Well, when that one

(37:36):
woman decides to say, you know, to put being to
have to be to being a Guatemalan because.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
She violated that allegiance, that yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Right there. I looked it up while you're all talking,
and it says that somewhere in the Chicago, Illinois area,
she was born. I don't know the status her immigration,
the immigration status of her parents, if they don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
If she's a if she's a citizen based on what
it says the fourteenth Amendment or an inkre maybe.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
The thing is, as we know in the fourteenth Amendment,
born here or nationalized and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well,
if your parents are not citizens and you're born here,

(38:33):
you baby, are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, because
you're subject to a foreign power like your parents are.
Your parents cannot give you something they don't have, which
is citizenship. The fact that she allegedly is representing people

(38:55):
in the house, she's just told them to their face,
no I'm not.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
And it don't matter. This country stinks and you stink,
and I my allegiance is to another country. And if
I remember properly. She's known for saying all kinds of
anti American things about us in.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Military, which based a question who elected her and why? Uh,
it would be interesting. Can a lawsuit be brought to
get her expelled from the House because she has violated.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Her well constitutionally, the only way to expel her would
be for the members of the House to vote her out.
So I think, no, okay, no, it's you know, they
know they can vote to expel. I believe it's a
two thirds vote. I'll take a look at Is that

(39:58):
what you see there? Did this is a two thirds vote?

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, all right, so you know, okay, yeah, so uh uh.
This is an Article one, section five. The childs may
determine the rules of its proceedings, punish the members for
disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two thirds, expel
a member. So you do the investigation, you find out
that or you charge her with violation of the oath,

(40:28):
and then once all of that comes out and then
the media is uh you know, willan forced to have
to admit it, and her constituency is angry, then then
you then you pressure Congress to expel her, and if
they don't then you make sure she can't get on
the ballot in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
I'll tell you the amendment that I would like to see.
No amendment.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
One, if you're if you're running to become a member
of the House, you have to do this before you
can throw your hat in the ring. You have to
prove conclusively that you are eligible, which means you have
to you know, among other things, your age, time in country.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Well, the secretary state of the state in which you
are running, or the secretary state of the United States.
I think it's the secondary state of the state in
which you're running is as responsible. They're supposed to verify all.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
That, but they're not doing it.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
No obviously, well, they don't verify natural born citizen and
if you mentioned it on YouTube, they also yank your video.
I've had two of them for that.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
This is why we need an amendment to make sure
that it actually happens, because it's very possible if her
parents were not citizens at the time of her birth
in Chicago, she's not even a citizen and get citizenship

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because your parents naturalize after you become a citizen.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Remember the birthright warriors say otherwise. But then Again, we'll
see how that all comes out before the end of
Trump's term, because I mean, right now there's a battle.
An appeals court just reversed the birthright citizenship rails against him,
and so we'll see what happens. Not that it should

(42:27):
be about the courts. It should be about the Constitution,
But right now you've got to fight the battle where
the battlefield is.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
But there is no birthright citizenship.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
No, of course not. You know that. I know that
the Constitution knows that. Unfortunately, there's a lot of jerks
out there have a certain narrative who are unwilling to
admit that.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
And Dennis knows about it. The other thing is to
clarify in this amendment what it is to actually constantutually
be considered a natural wart citizen. And I would like
it to include both parents being citizens at the time
of your birth, not the way Davitel wrote it, which

(43:05):
was basically, your father had to be a citizen.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Well, he uses plural parents, and they also say that
in seventeen ninety Immigration Naturalization Act parents.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Yeah, they're using plurals because they're in Davidtel saying he
uses plurals citizens' parents and children but he really specifies
what he's talking about when he said at the end
of that in chapter nineteen, section two twelve, where he says,
and children naturally follow their fathers. Keeping in mind at

(43:36):
that point in time seventeen fifty eight, women had no
political rights, couldn't vote, couldn't hold office. So he was
talking about the fathers. And I believe that's what they understood.
That would have been the understanding in seventeen eighty seven
when they wrote it in the Constitution, because still at
that time they had no political rights and couldn't vote.

(43:59):
Can hold off.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
While we're while you're looking at doing your amendment?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yes, what about.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Uh you talked about your grandfather? Yes, all right, So
why do we have why do we allow dual citizenship?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
We don't, We don't.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Well, people have it, People brag about it.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Right, and it is recognized internationally and by those other countries,
and we can't force them to get rid of dual citizenship.
But the United States law does not recognize it. So
they can say they have it all they want, but
in the eyes of American law, they are American only.
Now if they want to play that game of dual
citizenship while holding office. I think that if they're bragging

(44:45):
about dual citizenship, they have dual citizenship recognized internationally, they
should not be able to hold office. Well, this question,
so that that would be the amendment that we should have.
The thing is you're not that if you hold dual
citizenship and it is recognized internationally, yeah, then you're violating

(45:05):
American law because American law does not recognize Jules this ship.
Therefore you're ineligible to hold office.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Sol Cruz ran for president and he made a point
when he was challenged about Canada that he renounced his
Canadian citizenship. And he did that well after he was
a senator. All right, and then you have the emoluments cause, okay,
and the thing that you cannot be giving things. I'm

(45:34):
just wondering, could you put foreign citizenship if England wants
to make you, or Spain wants to make you, or
France wants to make you, or you want to get
citizenship if you're if you're an American and you retire
and you go to a different country, after you're in
that country for a couple of years, they will allow

(45:56):
you to become a citizen.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
But if you do that, that should make your American
citizenship no void. Well, and that's my point.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
If you can't receive titles, if you can't be a
knight you know of the realm of the UK as
an American, you know, as a president, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Well, it's maybe the missing thirteenth Amendment disallowed it for citizens,
but for officeholders you can't unless there's approval by Congress.
But I get where you're going. So how about how
about Rosie out there in Ireland. She loves this, of
course right now she's a resident, but she loves it
so much as sight she wants to become an Irish citizen.
Then then the United States should then deny any recognition

(46:42):
of her American citizenship.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
But to your point, if you're running for Congress and
you're talking about your love of Somalia or Guatemala or
I don't know if they have citizenship there or not.
But going back to the point that the Secretary of
State of everybody did all their due diligence, you know
that ought to be a big screen.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Well, it's a violence of youth, as as I wouldn't
indicate it. It's a violation, oh said, well, allegiance in
the United States and well, allegiance is not allegiance.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Well, they are actually putting Somalia and Guatemala first.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
They could be and they should be out of office
and ineligible for it.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Absolutely, But even if they were saying they're going and
putting American first, but they have an influence, a secondary
influence of another country. Like you say, that's divided loyalty
either way. They ought to be canned.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
They ought to be canned. They receive no pension, receive
no medical benefits. And the thing is with people who
do have dual citizenship, they get it because they have
the US citizenship first and then they go apply somewhere else.

(48:01):
As we all know, if you have if you have
a citizen from another country and you want to become
a US citizen, you have to say goodbye to that's
prior citizenship, right. But those who do carry dual passports
are US citizens first, and you know US won't recognize

(48:21):
the other passport, but other countries will. But you know,
if people want to do that, let them do it.
But if you're going to be in the federal government,
then you need to have full allegiance to one country,
one government, one people, this one not wherever your your

(48:42):
family or family's heritage can see.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
And the Democratic Party depends on that foreign influence, you know.
And that goes back to like the census thing. That's
how they get the apportionment. If we were to stick
to the constitution, illegal aliens weren't counted as the inn
the census, or they were counted separately, but they weren't
counter towards appropriation. You were, and you were expected to

(49:05):
withhold your oath, your allegiance. They would lose so many
seats and they would lose so many critters in office
right now, it wouldn't be funny. And and what's funny
about that? And money? And what's funny about that? And
here I am using the word funny again is that
they are the one They're the ones playing games. They're

(49:27):
the ones been playing games since day one. I mean,
it's it's like, uh, I was watching Jesse Waters and Massachusetts.
Forty of Massachusetts voted for Trump, yet all nine congressional
districts are Democrats. How is that possible when nearly half
your state voted Republican. Then that gets back to the

(49:52):
Gary Mandarin and all that jazz. But my point is
the Democrats have been playing games with SINCEUS with illegal aliens,
with the Gary Mandarin, and now that Donald J. Trump
and his administration is doing they can't clean up the mess.
They're freaking out and everybody says and they said, well,
it's it's it's a racist and is that No, it's not.

(50:14):
You're you're worried about your power. The game is up,
the game has been discovered, and you're and you're scared
to death that you're gonna lose some power you don't want.
And I said this on my show last night. There
should be an amendment when it comes to the Gary mandering.
There should be an amendment that every single congressional district

(50:34):
is required to have four corners, and all four corners
must be ninety degree angles. It doesn't matter how big
or small it is. In the cities, they're gonna be
smaller squares because there's a denser collection of citizenry. But
this thing where they have one in one city, then
it goes down a freeway and hits the other city

(50:55):
and avoids all the rural areas. So make sure it's
Democrat that that's ridiculous this and there's well voter suppression.
You Lefties are guilty of voter suppression. You're the ones
whos been Gary Mandarin. You guys are the ones who
have been using the census for your benefit. You're the
one that's been you know, the court battles, also other

(51:17):
stuff over redistricting commissions. You're the one with the voter
Rights Acts telling states they have to ask permission before
they are even allowed to do anything regarding elections. Because
it's all about equity and fairness. Voter id laws, now
that's fairness. Cleaning up the voter rules, that's fairness. Making

(51:39):
sure legal aliens are not unconstitutionally counted in the census
for the purpose of making sure the Democrats have more seats,
now that's fairness. Getting rid of the Gary Mandarin and
having grid looking districts, that's fairness. And they are freaking
out because their power and I mean, if this stuff

(52:02):
starts changing, people are noticing this stuff, and these jerks
like Ramirez and ilhan omar out of there for violating
their oath. And all these election integrity issues are taken
care of, we very well could see the end of
the Democratic Party. It'll go out the door like the
Federal's Party and the Whig Party did.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
Hey, Doug, you brought up an interesting point. I'll ask
you the silly questions. Do you need a photo ID
to drive a car? Yes, when you were very young?
Did you not need a photo ID just to walk
into a bar?

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Well? Yeah, matter of fact, I was at a place
just recently and when it came to the bar section
as restaurant, there was a big sign and says, if
you're under thirty, be prepared to show ID.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Okay, So this is just about you know, getting around.
This is about maybe some entertainment, but saying that a
person would have to show some kind of photographic ID
to verify they are who they say they are to

(53:11):
cast a vote an election that's not need. Why is that?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Because these people are trying to protect their power because
they're liars And it's just like these Democrats Lane Texas. Oh,
well we're you know, we're trying to stand for democracy.
No you're not. You're trying to protect your power and
you're doing it. You're avoiding the vote, you're changing the
legislative vote with outside money, media cover and zero accountability.

(53:44):
They should be thrown out for bribery.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Well I'm going to take the other side to that
for at least part of it. When they ran away,
they were trying to how did you say it? What
are they doing with democracy?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
When they say they're trying to protect democracy.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
That's exactly what they wanted to do. They wanted to
protect democracy in the republic. Okay, now that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
But even if it was, even if it was a democracy,
that's not how you protect a democracy. Protected democracies with
a vote, and they're avoiding the vote, and they're and
they're avoiding representing the people who voted for them. How
is that protection of democracy even if it was a democracy?

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Famous you know, comment the elections have consequences, so that's
why that's too bad, right.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
But nobody asked when they when they currently said, we
got about a minute and a half, we're trying to
protect democracy. How come nobody in the media said, what
democracy are you trying to protect?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Because they all believe the same garbage. I was even
watching Sports Channel and it's like, oh, this is the
greatest sport in our democracy. I'm like, what the watch
a football and I'm here a democraphy go ahead thirty seconds.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Dennis Constitution gives the federal power to get involved in
the States to make sure that it is a republic
not a democracy.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Well, right now, we've got the Department of Justice tackling
voter rules and enhancing election integrity, got the Supreme Court
looking at getting involved. And meanwhile, we got a bunch
of Texas Democrats trying to sabotage the legislative process in Texas.
And they do it with outside money, but they claim
it's not bribery. They should all be arrested to all right,
real quick. About fifteen seconds, Allen said us, now do

(55:43):
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Another