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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's Saturday, one o'clock in the afternoon on the Pacific coast,
on the left coast.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I was on the phone quite a bit with folks
down in southern California where I used to teach my classes,
and they're saying, Douget's getting worse.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We need you back, and you know that there's.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
At Douglas V. Gibbs dot com. Mister constition, good to
see you. This has been an interesting week. And the
one of the stories was nine to eleven anniversary was
a couple of days ago. On my Thursday show and
on my Friday show, I discussed that I may get
to that today. We'll see, but I have a feeling

(00:50):
this first topic is probably going to dominate most of
the program and in the and what I'm talking about
is the political assassination of Charlie Kirk. And now we're
in the aftermath of that, and as we're looking back,
and I don't know if you have the chance to
see his wife, Erica Kirk give her a little speech

(01:14):
and it was riveting, it was important, and I'll refer
to it in a minute. But in this aftermath of
this political assassination, first I want to refer back to
what Charlie Kirk said about the violence on the left.
That's all they got left, he said, And I've said

(01:34):
the same thing. Can't win any aregn of ideas. Now
they've lost the presidency, they lost both houses, or they're
gonna and I think they're for sure gonna lose both
houses in the midterm.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Real good.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
They don't have the spring Court. All they've got left
is violence. And Charlie Kirk said, you know it's going
to get dangerous. And I understand the risks. I have security,
But in this aftermath, I want to point something out,
not about what we saw here in the beginning, but

(02:10):
what we did not see after the political assassination of
Charlie Kirk. We did not see his supporters rioting in
the streets. We did not see buildings on fire. We
did not see looting. We did not see burning cars.

(02:30):
We did not see keyed car doors. We didn't see
calls for taking away freedoms of law abiding Americans. We
didn't see calls to strip away the rights of political opponents.
We didn't see censoring or cancelations. We didn't see conservative

(02:52):
media hurling accusations at their political opponents. Calling anyone not conservative, fascist, murderer, supremacy,
or terrorists. We didn't see protests and misplaced blame, and
we did not see vengeance. And I'm talking from the supporters.

(03:16):
We saw some of those things. Actually from the left.
Some of me were trying to convince everybody it was
the killer was something other than what he was.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So what did we see.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
We saw heartbreak, We saw faith, we saw love, We
saw togetherness, We saw prayer, we saw mourning. We saw vigils,
we saw flowers and an outpouring of devotion. We saw
righteous pain and anger and then forgiveness. We saw his

(03:53):
supporters arm in arm, heart to heart. We saw conversations
and civil disc We saw flags lowered to half staff.
We saw a vow to seek truth not revenge. We
saw unity, and we saw a people brought together by
their convictions and hope for the future. Now, remember something

(04:18):
that is also telling conservatives in the public eye require
a significant amount of security and the downing of body armor.
He Charlie Kirk had on body armour. The shot went
through the neck, and there's discussions on did it just

(04:43):
go straight through the neck or did it glance off
the top of the body armor and then changed course
into the neck whatever. There's discussions out there. I'm not
going to get into the conspiracies, but this need for
body armor, this need for security that goes way back,

(05:05):
is not necessarily true among Democrats in their allies. And
also realize that there is a significant portion of leftists
out there saying that Charlie Kirk deserved to be killed
and if given the chance, they would have done it too.
The evil of the left called for this, incited this,

(05:28):
prepared the foundation for this. They wallow in darkness and
cannot win in the aign of ideas, so they resort
to anger, profanity, and accusations that go beyond the pale. Yet,
even with that hateful, evil rhetoric, and in a moment

(05:49):
that could have torn us apart, we who embraced biblical values,
constitutional principles, conservative political ideals, chose to stand together in
a moment that they wanted us to wallow in fear.
We united together and leaned upon each other for support
and strength. While they tried to give their crazy, radical,

(06:12):
extreme leftist wing an excuse to kill MAGA stood together
calling for peace and liberty while they are on a
violent war footing who tried to force their change into
place by any means possible. Maga President Trump, Republicans Conservatives

(06:36):
are using a movement founded on moral principles to bring
about change that reflects the original foundational freedom and principled
system of the rule of law based on natural rights,
common sense, and freedom for all. That's the difference, that's

(07:00):
the contrast, and that's the message the country needs to hear.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Understand.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
We are no longer witnessing left versus right, red versus blue,
and Democrat versus Republican. This has been all along and
now clearly a battle between good and evil. And as
Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk said in an inspirational message, they

(07:32):
killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith
and God's merciful love. But they should know. They should
all know this. And this is Erica Kirk speaking. If
you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you

(07:52):
have no idea. You have no idea what you have
just unleashed across this country. The movement my husband built
will not die. I will make sure it will become stronger, older, louder,
and greater than ever. His wisdom will never die and

(08:12):
then she speaking to her husband, Charlie Kirk, I will
never let your legacy die. The man suspected in the
assassination of Charlie Kirk has been apprehended, twenty two year
old Tyler Robinson, Utah resident.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
His family turned him in.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
He came from a family of faith, a good upbringing,
and yet the rhetoric, the rhetoric still reached him. He
believed the rhetoric that Trump is Hitler, the GOP are
a bunch of fascists, that we live in a modern
day Operation Valkyrie moment. Bullet casings cut recovered after the

(08:55):
assassination were engraved with phrases like hey fascist etch. It
was no doubt a political assassination. It was no doubt
the result of a depraved mind that had been convinced
over time to follow the rhetoric that the Left has
been put down, to follow the rhetoric that they are

(09:22):
putting out there. And I'm reminded about Benjamin Franklin. Only
a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become
corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. My
wife once asked me how it was that the founding
fathers knew so well what the future was going to

(09:43):
be like, what's to guard against? I told her they
didn't know anything about the future, but they knew history.
They studied the patterns in history, tendencies, human nature. Benjamin
Franklin was simply relating to us he had observed. As
long as the country is virtuous, meaning that it follows

(10:04):
a moral standard and stands by that standard, things will
work out. Find laws will be obeyed, the laws will
not be tyrannical, and corruption and violence will be held
at bay.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
But when virtue.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Is set aside for selfishness, im moral behavior, and attempts
to justify corruption and viciousness, then, as science teaches, follow
the science Newton's third law of motion, for every action,
there is an equal and opposite reaction. When one thing
exerts a force on another, the second object exerts a
force of equal magnitude, but in the opposite direction of

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the first. Wickedness creates social chaos. So those who believe
they are in place to keep the order must press
down harder. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have
more need of masters. Benjamin Franklin's quote, While an observation
of history has become a warning a prophecy, and today

(11:06):
it is unfolding before our very eyes. America is bleeding
not just from the wounds of crime, not just from
the death.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Of Charlie Kirk, but from an entire culture.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
That has lost its morality, and it is rotting from insight,
and that rot is what enables this. The killing of
Irena Zurutka, twenty three year old Ukrainian refugee, was not
just a tragedy.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
It was a symptom.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Her murderer, de Carlos Junior, had been arrested fourteen times,
and yet he was walking free, riding a train, carrying
a knife.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Why.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Because the left soft on crime policies have turned our
justice system into a revolving door for violent predators, and
because of the culture that they have created, these people
feel enabled to do what they're doing. So we've got
to crack down in more need of masters. Brown stabbed

(12:24):
as Rootska in the neck. Surveillance foot footage shows him muttering,
I got that white girl. A racially motivated killing. Absolutely,
the media, simon politicians absent. The Charlotte, North Carolina mayor's
response was offered more sympathy to the killer than the killed.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
The problem.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
The left wants you to believe that maniacs are not
maniacs until they kill, and then they kill again, and
even then, and even then, mental institutions and imprisonment to
the left is a terrible option. It takes years of
murderous rampages before we finally decide, okay, fine, put them away.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
And even then, even with a long history of.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Criminal behavior, murderous crimes, the left refuses to admit that
the death penalty is the only way to remove the
threat from society and create a deterrence for others who
may be considering the same. And the psychic and the
ideological cover up regarding Zarutska's death by the.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Left is so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
One example of how ridiculous they're they're going bending over
backwards to cover up.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's the free press. Let's read the free press.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
And Wikipedia editors nominated the Encyclopedia's article in Wikipedia killing
of Irena.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Zerutzka to be deleted.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Like all of the other defenders of the hard left
democratic parties radical narrative, the editors of Wikipedia believes it
is their idealistic mission to provide all the world's information
for free, except what they want you to hear, except
for what they want you to read. That needs to
be compromised by editors who battle over their versions of

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the truth. And it is all a part of the
prerogatives of the Democratic Party and the media establishment, who
only wants you to believe what you are told and
not believe what they cut out of the message. And
the story about Zerutzka's death is not just being ignored,

(14:38):
it's being suppressed.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
If the roles were reversed, if it was.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
A white man killing a black woman, the airwaves would
be a blaze. But when the victim is white and
the killer is black, the narrative is inconvenient, so they
bury it. What about the bystanders? No one helped, No
one intervened. Why because they saw what happened to Daniel Penny.

(15:04):
He stepped in to stop a thread on a New
York subway, and the left tried to destroy him.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
They called him a murderer.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
They wanted another George Floud moment, even though the narrative
of that was false.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
There too.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
The Freud case, after all, was riddled with contradictions of
political theater, but the message was heard loud and clear
by the rest of America. When it came to Daniel Penny,
if you help your target. Meanwhile, we have a violent
behavior across this country, and it's not just in our culture.

(15:43):
We've been letting in these same types of violent people,
if not worse than their violence. I'm talking about illealaliens.
I'm talking about people like Daniel Hernandez Martinez, suspected ties
of to Trende or Ragua, who was committed twenty two
crimes in six months, including assaults on police officers and civilians, theft,

(16:06):
threats with a knife. He's out there thanks to the
left's protection of legal criminals, New York's sanctuary policies, and
the nobel releases. Laken Riley was murdered by an illegal
alien from Venezuela and a suspect that prior arrests. It
was released despite ice detainers. We have the Times Square

(16:29):
New York Police Department officers attacked by a group of migrants,
mixture of illegals and immigrants. One of those suspects was
released without bail. Now of a recent attack against a
Idaho teenager buy an illegal alien, and the list goes.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
On and on and on.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
How many more murderers, assaults, and rapes must we endure
before the left admits their open border policies or soft
on crime policies, and their rhetoric against their opposition that
Trump is an hitler, that Republicans are fascists. How many

(17:12):
more do we have to endure? Trump tried to Well,
he did. He cleaned up Washington, d C. No murders
there since, and the left calls him an authoritarian and
a threat to democracy. Hope, he's a threat to democracy.

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We're a republic. That's beside the point.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And they've been.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Threatening action if he tries to clean up other cities.
They've been trying to hit him with lawfair on this
as well. Do they prefer blood in the streets? Do
they want chaos? Yes, that's exactly what they want. This
is what they do. They want the chaos because when
there's chaos, when the people are not a virtuous people,

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and the world, the country becomes more vicious and corrupt,
we have more need of masters, and they're happy to
step in as those masters. Now, let's talk about mass shootings.
The last seven have been committed by transgender individuals. Not
a coincidence, it's a pattern. But the media spins to

(18:23):
flex and denies well, they say it's not statistically significant,
but with the ideology alignes of their agenda, than they
amplify it.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
When it doesn't, they erase it.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
When it comes to the assassin of Charlie Kirk, they're
trying to convince you that, well, see, he's not one
of those people.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
He was raised at a conservative household.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
The guy was a political lefty and I just read
a report this morning. I haven't confirmed it yet that
his roommate was a trans marked that eight.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And this political assassination.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
This kid hunted all his one shot, professional shot, precise
in front of a crowd. The killer fled the media,
barely blaked. Kirk was a conservative, a trump ally, good
friend of JD. Vance, a major voice, and a longtime

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defender of constitutional and conservative values. So his death to
the Democrats is inconvenient, just like the attempted assassinations of
Donald Trump, just like the shooting of the Republican congressman
at a baseball game in twenty seventeen, dear Trump's first term.

(19:44):
It's all inconvenience, So they they didn't talk about skill
lease and how he had to undergo multipleeries a politically
motivated attack. These aren't random attacks. These are targeted attacks
against a enemy, be it a white girl, a congressman,
or a popular conservative celebrity. Is driven by ideology, is

(20:07):
part of a broader pattern and follows the lefts rhetoric,
their rhetoric demonization of political opponents as fascists and threats
to democracy, and those words become more than verbal assaults,
they become fuel for violence people who are on the
verge of being unhinged. I think this is the Valkyrie moment,

(20:30):
this is the new Nazi regime, and they're gonna take
down the Hitler and his followers. And the violence has
gotten to the point that is not just tolerated by
the left, it's embedded in their political DNA Ferguson, Baltimore, Portland, Seattle,
Los Angeles, riots, looting, arson, attacks on ice, attacks on

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Tesla dealerships.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
This isn't protest, it's in and it's not just policy.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
It's culture, a culture of violence, a culture of godlessness,
a culture that rejects virtue and embraces chaos.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Then a cap it off.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
You've got Tim Caine out there arguing against natural rights,
comparing them to Iran's theocracy. He claimed that rights are
granted by government, and that's not just wrong, it's dangerous.
Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Decoration of Independence the Laws
of Nature and of Nature's God. He wrote that our
rights come from the Creator, from Nature's God. That means

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they existed before government, God's gift to us our possession.
They belong to us, their ours, not the states, not
the lifts. It's not negotiable.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
It says our rights come from the government.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Because he wants government to control, determine, and defining our rights,
and he hates Christianity like most lefties. He wants to
claim that you want a Christian nationalist system.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Or a theocracy.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
And in reality, this idea of the divine dispensation of
rights coumverage and comes with the Saxons, not Christianity. Christianity
confirms it. The Saxons and Christians got along great once
the Saxons finally began to accept christ But it was

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a non Christian entity that began that idea because they
understood that when government tampers with our rights, a tamper
with God's order of the natural order of things. When
society abandons virtue, it invites tyranny. More laws, more enforcement,
more control. That's the path we're on. That's the path

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the left is leading us down. So how do we
turn this all? We remember Benjamin Franklin, we remember Thomas Jefferson,
we remember James Madison, We remember God. We punish crime,
We ended no bail insanity, We enforce the law. We
reject the rhetoric that calls Trump a Nazi and Republican's fascists,

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because that rhetoric fuels violence, it justifies assassination. And if
we don't stop it, Charlie Kirk won't be the last.
And this is not just a political fight, it's a
moral one, a spiritual one. And if we can't get
our spiritual house in order, we're not going to get

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our political house in order. We better get right with God.
We better become a virtuous people again, because if we don't,
America will fall and become another wonderful, godly thing in history,
taken down and destroyed by human nature and the lawless
and the moral madness of time. It's because only a
virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt

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and vicious, they have more need of masters.

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We'll see what's your thoughts and about what I said
about the situation the news, am I right? It's gonna
get worse before it gets better. I mean, they because
all they've got left is violence.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
A I Dennis, Yeah, out here, you know, I've I've
got a lot of kind of different thoughts on some
categories that you know, I had assumptions on, and the
assumptions didn't really bear out. I mean, I was wondering

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because they had talked about an airplane had taken off
within five minutes or so after the shooting, and you know,
they were talking about why didn't they shut the airports down?
And I thought, well, you know, maybe he ran off campus,
somebody got him in the car, got him to the
airport and the guy's gone, who knows where he's at,
you know, But as it turned out, obviously that wasn't

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the case. You know, I wonder after the Butler situation
and the fact of the proximity of the rooftops, you know,
and the fact that he had security, I'm wondering why
somebody wasn't watching the rooftops they could have seen him.

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To me, it was preventable, you know. But you know,
I don't know what everybody's budget is. But they didn't
get on top of the low C building. They didn't
have anybody scoping it. From the distance. You know, you
would have thought that would have been a pretty good
place for someone to be. But you know, he doesn't

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have secret service, he doesn't have, you know, a team
of snipers set up to take somebody out. I'm sure
he knew that he was under risk. I don't think
he thought he was immune. I was not aware that
he was wearing body armor. And so you were saying
that it's a pretty good job to do that just
under a T shirt. So uh uh, you know, it's

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it's it's really a shame, uh, you know, I know,
the culture in Utah pretty well. Matter of fact, my
son and daughter in law both teach at the UVU. Okay, yeah,
and you know, I uh, you know the parable of

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the wheat and the tears right the ka. Well, you know,
if if I'm trying to grow wheat and somebody wants
to ruin my crop, haytan come in and throw weeds,
which are called tears. And when the chairs start to sprout,
they look kind of like wheat, so it's kind of
hard to tell them apart. By the time you can
tell them apart, the roots have all grown together, and

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you really can't tear the tears out because in tearing
them out, you'd be tearing the wheat out. So you
just have to let the terirs grow with the wheat,
and you have to wait until the harvest, and then
you harvest the wheat, and then you know, you burn
the chairs. And so we've got good and evil, the
wheat and the chairs. They're all in the same society,

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they're all in the same neighborhoods, they're all living side
by side, they're all connected informally formally, and how do
you identify who they are? And by the time you
can identify who they are, you know, if they're a
natural born citizen, if they're a legal alien, and you know,
and you find out they're a bad guy, what do

(32:45):
you do. Well, the gift of America is that you
had the freedom to do what you want. However there
ought to be and you know, a protection clause somewhere
that you know, we can push the button on that
people cannot come to America and use the America laws,

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which our enemies do and hide behind him and twist them.
And I mean every time I hear one of these
guys saying that, you know, Charlie Cook, it was a
good thing he was taken out because he was trying
to destroy the Constitution, I feel like saying, you idiot,
you know, you don't even know what the Constitution is about.

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They use it as a catchphrase because it sounds American,
you know. But anyway, getting back to my wondering and
the wheatness chairs, this propaganda kind of like the entrails
that you hear about, you know, the spring, you know,
in the atmosphere of America over the farms and all that.

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This propaganda that is thrown out in the media that
penetrated Tyler. Raised in a conservative family, you know, in
a fairly conservative state. But yet you know, he got
attracted to his partner, which is a guy pretending to

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be a woman, you know, and they're living together, you know,
and that's we can get into sin. But that's not
you know, traditional stuff that happens as much in Utah,
even though it does happen, I mean, it happens everywhere.
So they got him pretty good. And I don't think

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that I can see. I don't think he was a
CIA trained guy, which they always talk about. There's so
much stuff on trainees. You could have a Christian who
is failing in his religious belief decide the exact a
vengeance and the fact Christian were diabolical. He would write

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anti fascist transoriented comments on the weapon and on these
bullet casings, even though he's not that. But that's kind
of the flow right now. So I was thinking that
it might be a professional hit guy, and to cover it,
he's making it look like it's another you know, fascist

(35:18):
trans you know, anti FUD type person. And how would
you know. You can just go by what's written, and
there's so much fake stuff out there. I thought, well
that might be fake too, But it looks like this
guy was protrans had a partner trans. I believe he
could have very well, uninsistedly done this. I don't know

(35:40):
how good of a shot he was, but you know,
two hundred yards was a thirty odd six good weapon.
You know, that's very, very doable. That's what they said
about Butler. And he lived the American dream. He had
the freedom to choose his own life. The life he
chose took the life of somebody else. And people in

(36:05):
this country are more risk than in other countries because
it is a free country, and regrettably stuff like this happens.
Matter of fact, Charlie kind of said that as much
that that's part of the cost of a free society.
And now he's paid with his life. And you know,

(36:29):
if I'm George Soros and MSNBC and all these guys,
I'm thinking, I'm just sprinkling you know, murder, Faery Dusk.
I'm just sprinkling it all across the country and hopefully
people will rise up on their own and do these
things and they can't bring it back to me. There's

(36:50):
probably not one bit of evidence that ties this guy
to Soros or maybe any organization. Maybe he's a pure
convert to proper Ganda, and he acted entirely on his own,
but yet they are still responsible for him because they
have fed the ferry dust and and and they're getting

(37:12):
away with it. I'm thinking now there might be a
lot of these other shooters, six seven of them, maybe
half of them are totally homegrown, pure ferry dusters and
have nothing to do with being secretly going to you know,
clandestine meetings and getting trained. Some of the shooters did
have connections with the CIA and all that, and did

(37:36):
go to gun sights where sharp shooters were taught. But
this kid, I don't know, will just find out to me.
He was just a gulp.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
As a hunter. He's been around guns all his life.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
So okay, well, so you know he I'm assuming that
was his family here.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, I had all of that, but he went the
other way that the media, the rhetoric, the online stuff,
it all got to him and and it convinced him.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yep, as they've been so good at you.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Know, because I remember as a kid, so I want
to say, hey, man, if you go back in time
and kill Hitler, would you do it?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
You know?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
And I'm sure you heard that when you were younger,
And of course h and uh. So they've got these
kids convinced this is that moment. Hitler, the worst person
ever to walk the earth, is president and his followers
are going to commit a genocide against millions of people.

(38:37):
We've got to stop him. And some of these people
believe that stuff to the point where they're willing to kill.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Well, an upside, you know, and there's always an upside,
you know. And and Erica mentioned it that we're going
to get bigger and stronger, and I agree. I know
his supporters and fundraising PEO people who have all said,
you know, we're going to continue to support, you know,
a turning point. But there's also and I know you've

(39:09):
seen these and you didn't mention it. You're talking about
all the things you're seeing and you're not seeing, and
you're opening monologue. One of the things you're seeing is
there's a lot of walkaway stuff going right now. You know.
I probably listened to fifteen or twenty of them yesterday,
people that have been democrat their whole life, and they said,
this is it. I'm done, you know. And you know,

(39:31):
I don't agree with Charlie Kirk, but I should say
don't agree with what is going on and the Democrats
are supporting this. I'm done as a party, so I
don't know what they're losing.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
The differcrats out there are saying, oh see, this is
more evidence that we need to take action forget prayer, prayer,
you know, they mock prayer, and they said, but we
need more gun to do.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
It wasn't a gun that killed him. It was a
man behind that gun.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Well, and I read one article that I thought was interesting.
Matter of fact, it wasn't an article, yeah it was.
And then I think I saw the video and I
didn't send it to you. You can find it, you know,
the websites I look at. But he says, and the
thing that caught my attention is this was not a
political assassination. And in the argument he said, well, it

(40:21):
was a political assassination, and I thought bait and switch,
But then he went on to say, it's a political
assassination in great measure because Charlie was a Christian and
this is not just political, this is against Christians, which he,
you know, was a dual card carrying member of both

(40:43):
you know, Christian and Conservative. And when he finished these
talks he usually ended with some type of a testimony
and acknowledgment. You know. The one quote I read of
is that I thought was pretty good as I'm flushing bone,
but more importantly, I'm also a soul, and uh, they

(41:05):
want to take people like that out as well. But
if you call it a political assassination, I'm not going
to mince words. It was. But part of the threat
of that tapestry was his belief in God and morality
in Christ. And so that's my gut feel. My gut

(41:27):
feel is that the general population, you know, is being
polluted and regrettably, you know, they won with Tyler, and
it makes you wonder how many more independent rogue people.
It's too bad. He was a good enough shot to
pull it off, you know, if you know.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
And they're saying that that it's a possibility may have stopped.
The body armor maybe a little bit higher, because I
gotta tell my wife, you know, it could be as
lew as an eighth of an inch difference and he's alive,
just like with Trump, you know, with the turning of
us head, you know, an eighth of an inch or less,
you know, and it's been the difference with life and death.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, I'm think I'm thinking he missed his target by
about eight inches. I'm sure he was going for his head.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
He wanted to head.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, we missed ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
So in that distance, you've got you know, you've got wind,
and you've got the movement of the person.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
There's all kinds of other factors.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
But the thing is Tyler Robinson, the suspect accused of
assassining Charlie Kirk, is a leftist.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
It's a fact.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
We know that his family might be Republican, might be conservative,
might but he's not. Now that shouldn't be a shocking development.
We're watching this how many how many times have we
seen and they'll claim conservatives are the dangerous ones another
gun tot and want to kill How many times have
we seen a mass shooter that was a pure conservative?

(42:55):
We haven't, And we've been subjected to gas lighting of
the the worst sort. Even even these clowns are even
funding for atrocious photoshops to try to make it look
like Robinson was a Trump supporter.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, the shirt that they put.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
On him here and it would it never made sense.
I mean, he was such a Kirk. I mean, if
he was such a Kirk supporter, then why would he
kill him? And and so But that's what the left
is running with, and they're rightfully being left right out
of the room. The Democrats have offered word salads, over
charged rhetoric from their side that's led to violence.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
And then you know, and.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
And Nancy Pelosi says, well, Democrats can't take responsiblity for
their rhetoric against conservatives because it wasn't their intention for
violence to ensue.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Oh yeah, you know. And the only other thought I
have in passing as a father and as a grandfather,
is I really feel bad for that family. Yeah, you know, yeah,
oh you're talking about the killer. Yeah, I mean, I
mean that was that would be a real hard conversation

(44:10):
for that father to have. And of course Tyler said,
I'm not going to turn myself in. I'd rather commit suicide.
And you know, you know the story. He talked him
out of it and made some phone calls, and you know,
Tyler got arrested, and we'll see what he says in
court if anything, come Monday. But you know, I just
think of the parents. You know, kids turn out individually.

(44:35):
They they get involved with other people that you can't control.
You know, they go down rabbit holes that sometimes you
cannot pull them out. Of and especially when they get
old enough, you know, over eighteen, I mean, and they
move away from home. You know, you love them, but

(44:55):
even if you don't agree with what they're doing, but
you know, for him to act out in this tragic fashion,
it's just, uh gotta be heartbreaking for him.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And with that all saying, off and Alan, you know,
we watched the left and they make everything political and
they call their opponent's Nazis and enemies of the state.
They've been doing this for years and and now their
side is committing acts of domestic terrorism.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
But they don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
They they they you know, they're they're they're We're not
We're not the ones out there writing. We're not the
ones out there, you know, using this type of political violent,
politically violent rhetoric. And they have political violence problem, they
have an anti Semitism problem.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
This is all within the left and the Democrats and
the progressives and whatever, and so in a sense, this
was not a surprise.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Uh. It is something I'm I am angry about.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
But I'm not going to go out there with my
my my shooting my my guns to start shooting the
place up. That's not the way conservatives react. That is
apparently the way some of them react. And I'm not
painting the entire progressive left Democratic Party, but the leadership,
the ones that have the spotlight, the ones in entertainment,

(46:16):
the ones on TV, the ones in music, you know,
like like some of these jerks sitting on the stage
saying you know, so you know Madonna when she said
that she had was having dreams of the blowing up
the White House, all that they are saying this stuff,
they are and they're that representation. And I'm a firm
believer that that that that was a part of what

(46:37):
led It was a factor. This guy could have said,
no he should, you know, I don't know. There's other
things going on too, but that was, in my opinion
of factor.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
All right, so what's your thoughts, Allen?

Speaker 8 (46:49):
Well, thank you for that, gentlemen, both of you. Nice opening.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Doug, thank you.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
I like how like the way you talked about what
we haven't been saying. I'll tell you something else that
we haven't been saying. And it has led to this, okay,
which is gut wrenching, heartbreaking. What what what has led
to this is we it doesn't matter where you are

(47:19):
on the on the spectrum. It doesn't matter you know
what point of view you have. We can't have conversations,
we can't have discussions, we can't be willing to share
and listen. This is this is this is one of
the two weaknesses in our society where we do not

(47:44):
openly and I think Charlie Kirk did, like he shows
up and says, if you disagree with me, to ask
me a question.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Oh, prove me wrong.

Speaker 8 (47:54):
If you're if you're in the media, how about promoting
someone's eating something but it doesn't me Uh, how about
promoting Because you're in media, you're out there, state, local, national,

(48:14):
you're out there, promote conversations, discussions that work towards understanding
and and stop the the labeling without facts, without understanding.
If you know, if you're gonna call me that, I'm

(48:37):
I'm a thing, Okay, I got it. What what makes
you think on that thing? What's in your head that
tells you that I'm this right instead of just just fitting,
instead of just hitting with the label. And since you've
been labeled, that's it, we're done. We don't have to discuss.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You been laid Now you're an enemy of the state.

Speaker 8 (49:02):
The other is that for some reason, the people who
like to have firearms, they're the problem because somehow, if
only government had firearms, we wouldn't have any of these issues.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah right, how about this everybody's driver's licenses because of
drug drivers.

Speaker 8 (49:28):
No, but how about this? Where are you going to
find the biggest potential group, not actual, but potential. I'm
guessing here for a moment of your word, conservatives that
are have or interested in firearms. Oh, that would be

(49:50):
a gun show. You don't have shootings at a gun show.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Well, I like to tell everybody I go to gun
shops and gun shows all that time, and somehow I
make it out of life.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
Yes, I'm I'm happy about the what we did see
which you talked about, the outpouring of humanity, the lowering
of flags. I mean, if you really have a problem
with somebody, really really have a problem with something, can

(50:22):
we go back to the old style, Just slap them
in the face with a glove and call them out
for a duel. See if they want it, okay, And.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Then they go out there miss each other on purpose.
So everybody says face and then shake hands.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
And that's why you don't stand near them.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yes, unless of course you're alexand Hamilton, then they are
going to aim for you.

Speaker 8 (50:44):
I'm not I'm not sad about that one. Sorry the
you did mention Arena, God rest her soul.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
This is horrendous. Okay. You're sitting on a subway, you're
doing nothing, you're maybe listening to some music, You're just
sitting there. And this person who allegedly stabbed her and
got arrested for it, he's committed fourteen other crimes. Okay,

(51:17):
At what point is enough enough? When do you finally say, Okay,
we're not talking about jaywalking here, We're not talking about
unpaid parking meter fines. We're talking serious crimes. This is terrible,

(51:38):
but for me and you know, and then you mentioned
it's his name, Kane.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Jim Kaine.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yes, yeah, he was, by the way, the running made
of Hillary Clinton back in twenty sixteen as well a
good fit.

Speaker 8 (51:52):
The Since government is a creation of the people, government
doesn't create itself, then how can our rights come from
government when government comes from us?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Right?

Speaker 8 (52:13):
This is ludicrous, It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, but now you're talking logic.

Speaker 8 (52:18):
I apologize. I am so sorry what we need to
do and one less because I know we're running out
of time. I saw the video of what appears what
they're saying was the shooter running across the roof, hanging
from the roof edge and dropping down onto grass and

(52:39):
running away. And I'm thinking, Okay, we know what happened
to Trump. We know that that shooter was on the roof,
had a rifle, and that rooftop was in clear view
of the building next to it that had police enforcement there,

(53:00):
and they couldn't see him. Okay, if you've got an
event like this and you already have cameras up everywhere,
are you telling me you can't say you know what
We've we've got this thing completely surveiled, and we're gonna
have somebody watching the video as it's happening live. The

(53:22):
other is put up some drones. You can get some
good views up there. And you know, if if there's
if there's buildings with windows, you surveil those. If there's
just rooftops. But how did he get on the rooftop?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (53:41):
So somebody had to have seen? Yeah, and again we
had with the Trump assassination.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Attempt, daylight.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, And and I know we're only here and these
guys they're trying not to be seen when they do this.
So I get that, but you're you're right that we've
got to see these things.

Speaker 8 (54:01):
Last thing, you know, people say, they'll either say I'm
really for the Constitution, which of course for me is
going to big questions like, oh, that's wonderful. So am
I how many articles are in the original Constitution? You know,
I'm going to start asking questions if you're gonna tell
me you're all about it, and if you if you

(54:23):
say that because of the way I am, I'm trying
to destroy it, I'm going to ask you how do
you note that?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
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We kick but God bless American friends, God bless you.
Thank you for listening. We will not be here next Saturday.
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