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to the program. Is always always a lot to talk about.
And you know, I guess the big news has been
the government shut down, and you know it's had A
friend of mine text me earlier is, hey, man, I

(02:16):
need your opinion on the shutdown. And I said, in
a short one word response, gift. It's a gift. It's
a wonderful gift. Now, but I want to get a
little deeper here. I want to talk about because I
also another question I did is what, Doug, do you

(02:38):
think the founding fathers would think about these shutdowns? And
my response, they would love them, really, really, Doug, they
would love it absolutely. Because so what you do is
you take you look at the prostitution, which is the

(03:02):
contract that between the states that created the federal government,
and in the architecture of that, in the crafting of
that document, and the United States government, the federal government
as it's laid out in the Constitution. When you look
and you understand, and you break it apart, you notice

(03:22):
a few things. Not the first thing you notice is
the first three words is we the people. For those
of you who thought that was in the Declaration of Independence,
stay tuned. You need this more than anybody to listen.
We the people the first three words in the preamble.
It does not mean that we are a democracy. We're not.
We're not supposed to be. We're turning into one supposed

(03:43):
to be a republic. Now, we the people and the
states are very important in the process. We are the
oversight over that potentially dangerous tyrannical government. And that was
not only intentionally put in there, it is structurally embedded
through funding mechanisms. Our best way to make sure the

(04:07):
tyranny doesn't go nuts or get things away we want
is not to fund what shouldn't be funded. Knock it down.
It's like a pinata, and our and our stick is
the funding. You just hit that sucker a big hard
enough and all the candy comes flying out, and what
remains is what's important, the appropriation of funds. If you

(04:29):
read article Article one, Section seven Constitution is by the
House of Representatives. Then it requires Senate a Pronto's law. Now,
originally House representatives the people, senate the states and then

(04:53):
the states also had influence over federal budget budgeting before
the entrance of the sixteenth Amendment because they were very
important in in uh providing funds. What if a state
didn't want to and this was a discussion during the
Constitutional Convention. If you're paying attention to the video series

(05:15):
by Warhamster and I on his rumble dot com Warhamster page,
just put just search Warhamster. I believe the best way
to get there is rumble dot com slash capital w
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rumble dot com slash Warhampster. And we're going through Madison's

(05:35):
notes and they and there's a lot of discussions in
there about the states, you know, having based on their population,
needing to pay a portion of the budget. Ultimately, it
has decided that that that they would based on their population.
They could reject it, though but this, and and by

(05:59):
being able to rejected at what this means is the
States can say, you know what, you're not operating the
way we want you to. We're gonna keep the money
and the people their representation, the House Representatives, we don't
like what you're doing. We're not gonna put it in
the budget. So, as we're watching witnessing the latest episode

(06:24):
of government shutdown theater, the reality is based on what
I just told you, based on history, based on the
language of the Constitution, that the consequences may not quite
be the horrible crisis being reported by the media. After all,
in fact, would I say at the beginning, it's a gift,

(06:48):
it's a gift, it's a constitutional correction. So so Article
on Section seven Constitution mandates that all bills concerning revenue
must originate the House of Representatives. Then, as now, the
lower Chamber was filled with representatives democratically elected by the
people from districts established within the States, democratically voted this

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and this made and make sense because the people need
to have a voice. We're not a democracy, or not
to be a full democracy, but democratically the people does
have a voice somewhere in the system. House of Representatives. Now,
the thing is, typically the cities are there are represented
by those representatives in the in the House represents because

(07:32):
of the nature of you know, the more populous states
and you know where the populations are. That's where democratic
democracy kind of gets its way. So the Senate was
originally composed of members appointed by the state legislatures, and
it was done that way and to per state to
make sure that it was more the voice a of

(07:53):
the rural areas, so that they could have a big
enough poys to keep the cities and the House from
going to wild and secondly, so that it could be
a kind of pseudo aristocracy. You know, members in Congress,
in the Senate who are seasoned in the science of

(08:14):
politics and loyal to the interests of their respective states.
What the states wants becomes important when it's done that way.
The federal government was not designed to be the master.
It was designed to be the servant to the House,
to the States, to the Senate, to us. It was

(08:38):
designed to be the master, not the servant, born of
the Constitution and beholden to the authors of that constitution.
It was a deliberately restrained framework of governance crafted to
ensure that any drift towards centralized tennis tyranny could be
halted not by revolution, by simply refusing to fund it.

(09:03):
No money, no federal action. And early on during the
Founding era, these types of funding battles emerged, echoing what
we see today in today's standoffs. And these disputes weren't
just political, they were philosophical clashes over the scope and

(09:23):
the soul of the federal government as it is today.
During George Washington's terms as president, the financial program pushed
by Alexander Hamilton, assumption of state debts, creation of a
national bank, and misapplication of protective tariffs. Protective tariffs to
protect the country's interests are good things. Protective tariffs designed

(09:48):
to protect certain industries or certain companies bad. And that's
what Hamilton was doing, and this sparked fierce opposition by
Thomas Jefferson and Jane Madison. Jeffersonians viewed Hamilton's plan as
a centralizing power grab. They used votes in Congress to
resist or dilute funding mechanisms, especially the Bank of the

(10:13):
United States, which they saw as unconstitutional and aristocratic. The
battle led to a compromise, the Funding Act and Residents Act,
the latter, placing the capital in what would become Washington,
d C. A location in the Middle States, south of
the more industrial and Hamiltonian leaning states in the north,

(10:37):
and at one point Alexander Hamilton argued in favor of
implied powers, essentially commenting one needed to be able to
read between the lines of the Constitution. His exact words,
it is not denied that there are implied as well
as express powers, and that the former are as effectually
delegated as the latter. Jeffer's view that all constitutional powers

(11:01):
were expressly enumerated fueled his response to take a single
this is Jefferson quote, to take a single step beyond
the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress
is to take possession of a boundless field of power
no longer susceptible of any definition. So the comment was

(11:22):
his way of saying that if you start reading between
the lines, you'll find no limits, which he considered to
be precisely the danger. He grounded his argument in the
Tenth Amendment principle even before it was ratified, asserting that
powers not explicitly delegated by the Constitution were reserved to
the states and the people, the States and the people.

(11:46):
The philosophical clash echo today's battle that ultimately has shut
down the government. Jefferson, as does Trump, supporting Republicans, feared
a creeping centralization, a desire of Hamilton, who did not
see it as a road to tyranny, but as a
dynamic engine of national growth in a world of empires. Remember,

(12:07):
America was a third world country still developing, surrounded by
empires British Empire, French Empire, Spanish Empire. Even Portugal had
a little bit of an empire going the Dutch and
little America is trying to develop as all of these

(12:28):
empires licked their shops, hoping that America failed so they
could snatch it up. During the final years of the
John Adams presidency of mid tensions with France, President John
Adams pushed for increased military spending, including a standing army
and a new navy. While Jeffersonians recognized the need for

(12:51):
military strength when needed, they viewed Adam's call for these
appropriations that it would empower federal overreach and provoke war.
They used budgetary resistance to slower block Adam's agenda. In response,

(13:12):
the Federal's Party established the Alien and Sedition Acts, funded
and enforced through federal mechanisms. The plan, however, backfired on
the Adams administration. The unpopularity of the Alien and Sedition
Acts because they were binding the Constitution for one, led
to electoral backlash and a shift not only in congressional control,

(13:35):
but a change in the presidency that saw Thomas Jefferson
and his lase A Fair Principles ascend to the White
House New White House. Jefferson was the first one to
spend his entire presidency in the White House. John Adams
went into the White House towards the tail end of
his presidency and he hated the place. Jefferson's presidency became

(13:56):
one of frugality and selective funding. He reduced the national
debt each year he was president, except eighteen oh four,
when the increase the national debt defund military action during
the First Barbary War, and while Jefferson was committed to
reducing federal spending and successfully cut the national debt through

(14:16):
most of his presidency, with the Barbary States specifically triply
required this conflict with them required naval expansion of wartime expenditures,
so in eighteen oh four, Congress authorized additional funding for
the Navy, including new ships and supplies, which temporarily reversed

(14:37):
Jefferson's trend of debt reduction. Now this moment was a
powerful example of Jefferson's constitutional pragmatism. While he opposed standing
armies and centralized power, he recognized that defending American sovereignty,
be it at home or on the high seas, required
a temporary fiscal pivot. Otherwise, during his presidency, he he

(15:00):
aggressively cut the budget, seeking to eliminate unconstitutional, unnecessary, and
wasteful spending. Glass sounds similar about someone. He slashed military spending,
repealed internal taxes like the whiskey tax, and reduced the
size of government by firing about half of the bureaucracy,
the Federalist Party half. Jefferson believed that the federal government

(15:25):
should be minimal and used the power of the purse
to enforce that vision. His refusal to fund tribute payments
to the Islamic North African States did trigger a response
from the Islamic Caliphate that existed along the North African
coast and into the coastal area of the Middle East. However,
leading the First Barbary War, now, as with Jefferson, the

(15:48):
second presidency of Donald Trump has been marked by attempts
to reduce the size of bureaucracy and ultimately the size
and scope of the federal government. His fiscal policies also
echo that of our third president, Jefferson. For those of
you who weren't keeping count manifesting in economic improvement largely

(16:09):
across the board, now that we're seeing that wasn't isn't
just this term, but his previous term, the one that
started in twenty seventeen. The twenty twenty four Census income
of poverty data, combined with data over previous years, provides
a dynamic picture of changes in income in infation adjusted dollars,

(16:32):
as well as poverty levels. Trump's numbers, when compared to
Obama's and Biden's, are proving to be more effective in
pulling Americans out of poverty and improving the overall economic picture,
because while you start the government of money, you make
sure that you provide a environment for people to increase
their own money. During Trump's first term, according to the numbers,

(16:58):
three million, seventy thousand Americans were lifted out of poverty,
a number nearly double of that of Biden sixteen seventy
one million, six hundred seventy thousand. America boomed during President
Trump's first term because he was removing government from our lives,
removing governments and regulations, reducing spending, reducing taxes, and the

(17:24):
same kinds of numbers are beginning to emerge in twenty
twenty five. President Trump's agenda is pro growth and that
has been causing incomes of ris across all demographics, despite
the democrats empty rhetoric. Do you hear that all demographics
everyone is benefiting from Trump's economic policies. President Donald Trump

(17:52):
has also echoed George Washington's warning against foreign entanglements and
international expenditures that failed to serve American interests. His administration's
one billion dollar reduction in funding to the United Nations
has forced the international organization to announce five hundred million
dollars in budget cuts and a twenty percent staff reduction

(18:14):
for twenty twenty six. Critics warn that distancing the US
from the UN could be dangerous, but Trump those experts
X means has been spurts means drips. Trump sees beyond
their warnings. He recognizes that the United Nations is an

(18:36):
organization that is a precursor to global centralization, a system
run by faithless, unaccountable bureaucrats, And like George Washington, he
is vieering America away from dangerous foreign entanglements. And like
the delegates at the Virginia Ratification Convention in June of
seventeen eighty eight, he views membership in international polities as

(18:58):
dubious at best, And like Thomas Jefferson, he recognizes the
danger of a centralization of power and has been steering
America away from it. His aim is not to diminish
America into a provincial member of a global regime, but
to restore sovereignty and greatness. And that same battle is

(19:20):
now manifesting state side in the current government shutdown battle.
Democrats aligned with runaway federal spending that are that's hostile
to Trump's policies have refused to work with Senate Republicans,
plunging the country into a standoff with the current shutdown.

(19:44):
Wayne Allen Root, I don't know if you follow him,
and I pulled up his ex account and here's what
he put on his ex account that the shutdown is
proving to be a wonderful thing, a very wonderful thing.
He called it a bargain, telling folks don't believe the
media propaganda. Government shutdown isn't bad. It's good. It's a
great day. We all save money. As am I Root

(20:07):
is urging Americans not to believe the media's alarmism. The
Democrats are using the shutdown to defend pandemic era expansions
of Obamacare, I mean Obamacare, Affordable Care acter, whatever you
want to call it. Was that constitutional in the first place.
There is no enumerated authority over healthcare for the federal

(20:29):
government in the Constitution. These expansions were meant to be temporary,
and they do not, as claimed, gut coverage for everyday
Americans if we cut them out. The Democrats also seek
to preserve benefits for legal aliens, while denying that such

(20:50):
funding exists. They say they oppose medicate it cuts that are,
in truth, reductions in unnecessary spending with minimal impact or
on services. Their demand for legislative protections for healthcare programs
ignores the constitutional reality that such authority belongs to the states.
President Trump understands that federal healthcare per is riddled with

(21:14):
waste and fraud, and his administration is working to eliminate
such shutdowns despite the media frenzy, don't halt government either.
Remember the shutdowns, and when the Democrats and power and
they start doing whatever they can to make it look
like they're shut down, Oh my gosh, the sky is falling.

(21:36):
Essential services remain intact. Veterans still receive their benefits, security
checks still go out. Federal employees in critical roles continue working,
granted in most cases their paycheck may if it goes
longer then a certain amount of time may not get
to them until after the shutdown stops. But for the

(21:57):
Trump administration, this shutdown, I said, it's a gift, it's
an opportunity. It's a chance to reduce the size of government.
Oh you're not gonna be at work, all right, you're gone,
But Doug, you should be letting those people go. It's
non essential. Essential employees are still working. What does non
essential mean? It means you're not necessary, You're not needed.

(22:20):
We can run without you by federal job cuts, cutting
the bureaucracy. So Jeffersonian and the Democrats are losing ground
in the process. They once supported these spending levels, but
now oppose them simply because Trump is behind them. Their

(22:42):
Trump derangement centrome blinds them to consistency. They're dying on
a hill that includes free health care for illegal aliens,
something they championed in twenty nineteen but now deny. They've
aligned themselves with the radical fringe or their prior party,
the philosophy alien to the Founders and Trump and the Republicans.

(23:07):
By contrast, they're channeling the spirit of Washington, Jefferson and Madison.
They are seeking to return to the original intent of
the Constitution. The American people see through the noise, and
while Democrats rage and litigate, the ultimate court is watching,

(23:28):
the court of public opinion. These battles will ultimately shape
the upcoming midterms, with both political parties buying to strengthen
the number of congressional senatorial seats they occupy. In truth,
the shutdown it's not just about federal spending, because way

(23:49):
beyond that, there's so much more to it. In the end,
the grand scheme, the big giant pooh ball of it all.
It's about the all of the republic and the campaign
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(27:27):
Conscitiution Radio, Dougraphy Gibbs s Douglosphy Gibs dot com or
Navigation to Liberty. That's navigation the number two Liberty dot com. Uh,
you know, you know, as I'm sitting here and I'm
going through all of this, and I'm talking about talking
about the shutdown, and I had a piece of audio

(27:47):
that I was gonna send it to the engineer and
forgot about it. So maybe I'll save it for next
time we're on the air, which isn't next week. We
have a football game for emptying us next week, So
if you hear me at one say I'll see you
next week. It's not going to be here, but we
do have that's a wonderful thing about this time of year. Football.

(28:10):
But the bad news is football. So I was watching
football before I came on the other day. But anyway,
so the shutdown, I believe the gift an opportunity. Let's
do the things that the president got elected to do.
More So, I don't care if the courts cry they
don't have authority. I'll get to that later. So Dennis,

(28:33):
we have a shutdown. The media is telling you it's,
you know, sky's falling. I don't think that's the case.
I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a gift,
and I think in the end it's also going to
cause the Democrats to lose the midterms worse than we
already thought.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
What do you think, Well, it's very easy to go
back in time to Obama. Prior to Obama, you could
talk about candidate Hillary. You can go all the way
back to Clinton. You notice I skipped to Biden because
he's basically invisible. But when you talk about the other three,

(29:13):
and Obama especially, he said many times that they wanted
to cut waste. He said many times about trying to
make the government more efficient. This is all on the
campaign trail, and you know, you can find clips of
it to where they sound, you know, pretty much like
what Trump is saying now. But because they're anti Trump.

(29:35):
You know, I swear if Trump were to come up
and do something very kind politically, you know, to the
illegals or to any other group, and it might possibly
you know, lift his ratings, even though depending upon what

(29:58):
it is I'm talking about here, you know, the MAGA
people you know, kind of wonder what's going on, but
they would oppose it, you know. I mean he's talking about,
you know, a tariff participation check, you know, for two
grand you know, I keep reading about this, they keep

(30:18):
they keep saying it.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
But anyway, go ahead, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
You know, but uh so that two thousand dollars if
it happens, which I don't think it will. But if
it did happen, who would appreciate that more the people
that are rich or the people that are struggling, all
the people that are struggling. So that would help their base.
But they'll be against it because Trump came up with it, right,

(30:43):
you know, And and you know they always got mad
at the Republicans that the Republicans were shutting something down.
Well they now have the pleasure of shutting it down
themselves over hills that they're willing to die on that
aren't necessarily the best hills. I mean, whether or not
you want to talk about, you know, men in women's

(31:07):
locker room, whether or not you want to.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Talk about you know, the.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Blue collar people don't have to pay taxes on tips.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
You know, they'll be against that. They are going to alienate.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
A lot of the things that are a lot of
their supporters because a lot of the things that Trump
is doing, which he did in his first term, such
as funding all the black colleges, not just for a year,
you know, for a long period of time. He gave
them the money. He gave them the length of the money.
You would think that, you know, some liberal black person

(31:42):
that is raising kids to go to a black college,
you would say, oh, that was real nice of them.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
So the Democrats are in trouble and trying to defend
the reasons that they won't cooperate, you know, with Trump,
and if they shut it down, that just makes it
easier for him to do what he wants.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
That's why you say it's a gift.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
So they really have very little politically to gain here
except people that have the mindset of being anti Trump.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Then you know they aren't going to lose them, but
they're losing a lot of other people. And like you say,
it's probably gonna have a pretty good sized impact. I mean,
the more people pay attention, the more people are going
to vote for the other side, and we'll just see
what happens in the House, Senate. You know, governors, even

(32:38):
some of the state and local elections. People are getting
fed up with it.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
People are noticing. And you know, I never had a
high opinion of the general population of voters, but people
because that Winston Churchill said, the best argument against democracy
is a five minute conversation with the average voter. But
voters are becoming more informed. They pay attention, and you know,
we grew up in liberty, and when liberty is threatened

(33:04):
like this, we do recognize and respond. The difference is
we don't respond violently. I was like, I was, uh, yeah,
you've been up here before, so you know how, uh
the road that runs along the river kind of goes
up and under the freeway one on one, and so
when you're when you go up and under and around
so you can make a right to go south. It

(33:26):
would be a left if you could, if there was
a light there. It's kind of a little bit of
a blind corner. Come around on that bridge, people coming
and so I've got my forebanger, you know, a stick
shift wrangler, and I go and right when I commit,
there's like three vehicles come around and going probably twenty

(33:47):
miles faster an hour than they should be. But I'm
already committed. You know how it is. Man, Once you're
kind of got your nose out there, you gotta even
though you see that you already committed, you got to go.
So I go, and I'm shifting i can. And this
our view of r v UH And it's thirty five,
it's twenty in town goes to thirty five there at
the Jerry Queen. Halfway across the bridge, it goes to

(34:09):
forty five. That's about where you see him. There's no
reason they should have been going as fast as they were.
But nonetheless, I'm shifting like crazy, and these guys go
right on my tail end. They're flipping me off. They
go beside me, the passengers screaming out the window, and
and I'm like, what a sign of what we have
today in society when it comes to the left. They're

(34:29):
just angry people. They're angry and hateful, and you're and
it's like, you know, Trump said, these people, if he
were to find a cure to cancer, would accuse him
of of causing oncologists to lose their job, putting oncologists
out of work now, Alan, you're listening to Dennis and

(34:51):
I talked about this shutdown. We've got a very angry
left who's doing whatever they can to just whatever it
is against Trump. They can't. It doesn't matter it's good
battery between if it's anti Trump, they're all over it.
And that's kind of what's going on. And they're holding
out for stuff that the American people voted Trump in

(35:11):
to end to get rid of, you know, such as
healthcare for illegal aliens for example. What's your thoughts about
the shutdown, what we had to say and anything else
that goes along with it.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Well, thank you for that. When you were talking about Jefferson,
Jefferson and the debt, I did look it up from
eighteen zero one to eighteen zero nine except for in
eighteen zero four. The national debt did decrease every year,
So way to go. But what I now look at is,

(35:46):
and this is an overview of what's for me, what's
going on? Okay, the national debt has not decreased since
let's see.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Was like the early fifties, right.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
The last time it decreased was as of June thirty,
nineteen fifty seven. Ever, since then it has gone up. Yeah,
I don't you know. I don't you know. And this
this I put firmly on your shoulders. I'm blaming you.
I care about the Constitution, and I don't care about people.

(36:20):
I mean we the people, Yes, politicians, I don't care.
It's what's going on in our country. We are now
at over thirty seven point seven trillion. This debt has
not decreased since June nineteen fifty seven. This is no
Clinton did it.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Colin Clinton gets credit.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
No, No, they deficit. They just didn't. No, they didn't
put out more than they had coming in or something
like that. Or they didn't increase it or something like that.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
But whatever whatever verbiage was used about surplus. Okay, the
bottom line is the US Treasury report. It's the debt.
I've looked at it, and every year since nineteen, since
June nineteen fifty seven, the national debt has increased. So
that is a huge problem that is not being addressed

(37:12):
by anybody that I don't like. Next, go into my notes.
What gives me is that? And I you know, for
whatever reason, there is a simple way to address this,
and it's not being addressed. And part of getting this

(37:34):
addressable and understanding that somebody may consider somebody's job non essential,
but they're they're a person, and they you.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Know, it's capable a job if they lose it, But
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah, well they may be, but you don't know, you
don't know what level or how easy it would be
to find a job, you know, because Congress is getting paid,
pass the damn bill and really sit down and get
this done by November twenty one.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, there is a recommendation by a Republican that Congress
should also not get paid while the shutdown's going on.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I think they should pay the people who aren't getting paid.
That would even be better.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
For me.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
What's going on? And I like what you said about
Oracle one section eight. This is part of the problem
is the government, the federal government, and it's been this
way for a long time, is extremely unconstitutional. So why
not do this? And I have somebody I would recommend

(38:46):
for them to call. That would be you and say, Doug,
come on in and you can bring people you know
and say, what is going on in the federal government
that is not constitutional? Just give us the list. We're
not doing anything. We're just gonna put it on the table. Then,

(39:07):
is anything that's being done by the federal government that's
not constitutional, which means we shouldn't be funding it. But
we really need it. And we've talked about this before
the FAA.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
We need the f A A make.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Make the amendment. Uh. Things that are absolutely utterly not
needed at the federal level. One example, Department of Education.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Okay, we're gonna need a shrimp running on a treadmill.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Oh, they they've moved up to a treadmill. I thought
they were on a walker. Okay, that's great. Uh, let's
figure out what if anything it does that is really needed.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
How do you do? Don't get rid of it? Not
not constitutional wise, but but but you know, the thing
is it was unnecessary and wasteful, and that's where you start. Ultimately,
you're right, let's get to the constitution. But you know,
and what did and how did they react when Doge

(40:10):
was doing that? They breaked out. Imagine if I went in.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
There, no, no, no, Again, this is going step by
step and explaining.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm not arguing against what you're saying. I'm telling you
they'll even freak out over that.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Well, that's fine, that's that's fine, that's doable, and the
people will see it. But you're you're laying out the recipe.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Dose went out with Dose Win after a group and
I you know, you don't take care of this kind
of problem with a chainsaw. And they fired people on
a Friday, and what they do They hired him back
on Monday because they they dog finally figured out, Oh
these people are dealing with nuclear materials. We need them back. Okay,

(40:56):
do this step by step and written and absolutely acknowledge
to the people of this country. We cannot keep doing
what we're doing because the way we're doing it is
by increasing an already unpayable debt load. And if we

(41:18):
have to fix this, not because of party, but because
of country. And we have to fix this because the
national debt is absolutely totally, utterly in this monetary system
unpayable and they're not doing that. Nobody's doing it.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
And some of it is easy. I mentioned the United
Nations and how he pulled back a billion dollars. I
got an idea, let's get out of the United Nations.
Anti American anyway, Yet we fund them more than anybody else.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Are they at least paying rent for that building?

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Yeah? I got it. Rockefeller gave it to him, he
wanted them there.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
So to me, the shutdown isn't aimed and isn't set
up to do what I see is really needs to
be done, which is.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
It's a flinter and what we need is a big,
giant bat well.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
What we need is an absolute organized plan that everybody
can see what's going on and understand. Okay, you want, Okay,
this idea that we're going to provide aid to people
who are here illegally, I'm going to say no, because

(42:31):
I will put that in my plan. I'll put that
under the section max cap maximum capacity. If you town, city, county,
state want to do this, fine, you go ahead. It's
on your pocket, not the nation's pocket. The other is
to get people to start thinking, and we've talked about

(42:54):
this before too, which is maximum capacity. No one in
their right mind normally will get on a plane or
boat that they know before they get on is already
over capacity for people in weight. You won't do it
because it's going to get bad. And how important is
maximum capacity? Go to your local movie theater, there'll be

(43:17):
a maximum capacity sign on the wall. Go to your
local public pool, there will be a maximum capacity sign
on the wall. If you don't know what your maximum
capacity is for your area, which is for food, housing, medical, transportation, education, whatever.
If you don't know what it is, you're not in

(43:38):
a position to add to the load. But this is
not something to be dealt with at a national level.
And once again we go to Article one, section eight.
And if Article one, section eight is not clear enough,
then I recommend everybody get your get your constitution out

(44:03):
and go to Amendment ten. And if if this is
not clear enough, then you really need to start thinking.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
And the tower there not delegated to the United States
by the community.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Twas too fast for me. You know that the powers
not delegated, you mean powers were given to the United
States federal government. They can't have them. They're not there.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So that this is saying, if they're not there, the
power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the states. Article one, section
ten has a whole list of no states shall are
reserved to the states respectively or to the people. And
it's so what it's saying is the states and the

(44:54):
people have all the power. And guess what we can
would that power by refusing to fund the garbage.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
And for me, the best way to do that so
everyone understands, and you know, okay, you're punishing a lot
of people because they don't want to do this simple homework.
And this simple homework should have been done one hundreds
over one hundred years ago. What's not constitutional? Let's not

(45:26):
take it on that way. We don't have to pay,
we don't have to tax.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
And the other is.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
And I'll leave it at this article one, Section eight, Yeah,
clause five to coin money, regulate the value thereof, you know,
on and.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
On, well, get rid of the federal reserve.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
In other words, well is the federal reserve system which
was passing the law and in December nineteen thirteen, when
operational November nineteen fourteen. Is that constitutional? No? No, okay?
It is what it is an absolutely massive power that
never should have been given away. It's unconstitutional and no

(46:10):
one is looking and these people who are in office,
they're not looking at it. The I get the idea
behind this, but they're not addressing the problems that brought
this point to where they can't agree on a budget. Okay,
guys and gals, get with it. Get constitutional. You know

(46:35):
that oath you swore when you took office. Yeah, honor it,
because right now they're not oath takers for me, they're
oath breakers. And if you really want to know what
the best shutdown is, there's only one, Doug.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
You know what that is.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
It's by the Beach Boys, the song tack It Up,
It Up, Buddy, gonna shut you down. That that's the
best shit.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I was talking to someone about a week ago and
she says to me, you know, Doug, I run for
city council. One gave my oath to the constitution, and
I realized I had never read the Constitution before, much
less understood it. And I turned to my fellow city
council member who had gotten reelected, and I said such

(47:29):
to them, and they said, ah, nobody has. She indicated
that she had seen me speaking a couple of weeks later,
and that got her interested in learned more about the Constitution.
But uh, this this is what well, you know, it's
just guidelines. It's just you know, a piece of paper.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
The real Constitution is what the judges say. That's what
I hear most of the time.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Can I ask you a serious question, yes, you may. Now.
My understanding is that the judicial branch was addressed in
Article three and Article one in article two, come before
article three because they were more important than Article three,
right and where it because again you know this inside out.

(48:21):
Where in this Constitution as amended, was the judicial branch
given the power to create laws or interpret them?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
It doesn't. In fact, Article one, Section one says that
all legislative powers here in granted shall be invested in
the Congress. So only Congress says those powers.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Don't you study the Constitution when you go to law school.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
No, they have a case law, I know, matter of facts.
That brings up that story. You know, Dennis with his son,
you know, and had gone through the classes with me
and his sons, like in his constitution class, and tell
the story, Dennis, you have in lunch with your son.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
And well, he the professor, basically was saying, I'm not
teaching you about the Constitution. I'm teaching you about what
actually is going on in the courts. You know, President's case.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
Law, you know, and all of that.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
And I think you might remember more detail about what
I said about what he told me.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
You know that I did.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
But they basically spent no time at all and speaking
about the Constitution.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
So you go ahead and bellshit for whatever you want
to do.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Point out, well, at one point you were telling me
that the professor says, well, there there are those who
I remember, the purists, I think was the word. All
of those purists out there who you know, go by
original tim I'm not going to teach you that that's
not applicable in today's not like a purists. Oh you

(50:09):
mean like me, But I've had I've had half a
dozen people with law degrees go through the Constitution with
me in classes, and every single one of them said,
maybe not in these exact same words, but more or
less I learned more from you about the Constitution that

(50:29):
did in law school. And most of them said, we
never even opened the Constitution, and the few that said
they did, it was only to so that they could
hammer on what was there and prove that it was wrong.

(50:49):
Just what the Constitution is, there's this annotated version that's
based on case law and precedent.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Go ahead, Alan, in this context of what we're talking about,
the fact that the least powerful of the three branches
is made making one heck of an effort at asserting
them being the most powerful. Yes, it's quite amazing and.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
During the convention they're arguing against even creating a judicial branch.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
Yeah. The other is, Jefferson knew that they couldn't win, right,
they were going to go to where. How did you
describe the courts?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
He said that, Well, what happened was after the Midnight
Judges thing. He says that the that the opposition has
retreated to the stronghold of the courts, world'll be more
difficult to dislodge them.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Yeah, I mean he knew, he knew back then, you
know that that was a weak area, and that's where
the losers went.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
And what do you have now? You've got the local
federal judges making.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Decisions conjunctions.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Yeah, that's right in their hometown.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
And they have no authority over California to New York,
including Alaska and Hawaii. You know. But nonetheless, you know,
and Trump's addressing that with the Supreme Court, they will
returned a lot of those guys.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
What gets me is that you go to law school
to learn law. Constitution is law, supreme law, well to
where it is the supreme law to what it applies to,
and it's not the supreme law to what it doesn't
apply to. And I think you can use both words
to refer to the Constitution as a contract or a compact.

(52:40):
It's a legal, binding agreement. And I would like to
ask any attorney out there when you get a contract
and you're looking at it for a client, do you
read it and understand it before you suggest your client
sign it? Or do you just tell them to sign
it and will you know we'll broadly interpret it later.

(53:01):
It's a contract, Read it, understand it, follow it, don't
broadly interpret it exactly. But thank you. John Marshall one
of my least favorites.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
You know, I had an uncle, Grover Gibbs, who read
like I do. He had so many books that he
actually had bookshelves in his hallways. You walk into his house,
every room had bookshelves and they were even lining the hallways.
And he passed away. What was it like ninety eight?

(53:40):
I think it was looking over at my wife. And
I respected him as a child. After he passed away,
and I got one last look as an adult to
his favorite room, his reading room in bookmarker or book

(54:01):
stands in between. He had his favorite books. One about
John Marshall and one about Alexander Hamilton, to name a couple.
Oh geez, well, I don't respect Uncle Grover gives so
much anymore. Of course he's now passed away, you know,
bless his soul, and you know, hopefully he went someplace

(54:23):
not so warm. But uh, nonetheless, I mean that's all
I needed to know, of course. Also Theodore uh not Theodore,
I'm sorry. Franklin Delan Roosevelt was on there, and a
couple of others I'm like man and and a book
by Howard Zen History of the United States.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
How you lets you know that people that are supposedly
well read and smart are not necessarily right.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Well, it's amazing how intelligent some people be and know nothing.
And we're out of time, Alan Plug.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yourself said at f hed ed dot us or Basic
Monetary System Education.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I understand to bind what can. But God bless America,
my friends, God bless you. Douglas V. Gibbs dot com. Douglass,
Oh yeah, yeah, this week? What when is that engineer?
Real Quick?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
One one pm on Tuesday. Doug will be on Curry
Meyers Show, America's criminologist.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Right here on kmie G. Thank you for reminding me,
and I won't see you next week, so watch me
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I'm sorry, and uh, he's got the right last name,
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(55:40):
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