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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And welcome Constitution Radio k ET fourteen ninety eight. It's
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But we are here, and so I saved my monologue
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I have Douglas V. Gibbs. By the way, mister Constitution,
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My co hosts Dennis Jackson and Alan Myers are waiting
in the wings. I'll get to them in a moment.
And I kind of always run this particular program as
a roundtable. And so I was talking to someone the
other day. They said, oh, you mean like Gutfeld. No,
Gutfeld does it like me. I did it this way
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before he did. But I don't have Tyris and kat
I have Alan and Dennis. Now that all said, Now
one of them is a big guy, just like Tyris,
just not big, just tall. But anyway, that all said,
let's talk about truth and understand, this program is all
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about liberty, it's all about defending it. It's all about
the Constitution, it's about politics. But through the lens of
the founding fathers, Christianity, liberty, constitution, not what we're seeing
bubble up and ultimately, all those things I'm talking about
comes down to truth. And that's a word that's been
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dragged through the mud, twisted, redefined, even denied Thomas Jefferson,
the immortal words. We hold these truths to be self evident,
not opinions, not trends, not feelings. Truths self evident, so clear,
so foundational that they require no explanation, only recognition. Today
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truth is under siege, and it's all about perception. Now
we have a democratic party does everything based on perception.
They want to plant seeds, get you to believe something
is the truth, even though it's not. Those who oppose
a constitution call the constitution outdated, irrelevant, a relic of
a bygone era, and yet when it suits their agenda,
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they will deceptively wrap themselves in its language, like a
cloak of legitimacy. Remember perception, Beware when they do this,
it's not truth. They're invoking its manipulation. Because tyranny, by
its very nature, cannot coexist with truth. Tyranny thrive in
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the shadows of deception. It fears the light of truth
because truth exposes its lives. Let's be clear, truth doesn't change.
The truth about liberty and tyranny hasn't changed since seventeen
seventy six, or really since the dawn of time. The
need for limited government, for checks and balances, for the
separation of powers. These are not outdated ideas. They are
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timeless safeguards. They are the architecture of freedom. Truth doesn't
go out of style. It walks hand in hand with
tradition and morality. It is anchored in facts, in common sense.
It is protected when we allow it to be by
sound education and critical thinking. But do we have sound
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education today? How many of us actually know how to
critically think? I know, my audience does, my co hosts do?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I do?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But you go out there, man on the street kind
of thing. How many of them even know their history
or no, just basic ideas I'm building a shit between
my behind my house, and it's basic stuff. I was
in construction for twenty years, and granted I was involved
in digging the foundations under the slab and all that,
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but I was around it enough. I saw what people did,
and I do have, or at least I think I do,
my a good share of common sense and a little
bit of no how Now, granted I joke around. If
it's got water running through it, electricity running through it,
or it has a motor, I'm probably not going to
be real good at it, but I can do pretty
much anything else. And so I build this shit. So
I says, Doug, you do know how to do that? Well, yeah,
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and if I don't, I'll figure it out. But you're,
you know, like a desk guy. So if I'm a
desk guy, I have no common sense beyond the desk.
The problem is the reason why we think that way
is because we know there's a whole party out there
who can't think outside their bubble. All they know is
their bubble. And because of that, and because of their
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deceptive ways, and because they don't know anything beyond their bubble,
truth is on the ropes we live in an age
where truth is now called where truth has been set
aside so badly that wrong is called right, and right
is condemned as wrong, where the merchants of deceit pedal
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their truth as if truth were a matter of personal
taste by choosing a flavor of ice cream. They say,
the old truths are dead. But let me tell you something.
When truth dies, civilizations die with it. We've seen it
throughout history. The Constitution is not just a document, it
is a declaration of truth. Biblical principles are not just
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religious ideals, they are moral truths. And if we are
searching for a way back to the America, we remember
the America that rose from the ashes of the American
Revolution and again from the War between the States, and
became the beacon of Western civilization. We must return to
the truth, or, as they say in sports, get back
to the basics. When a team is struggling, what do
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they do? Get back to the basics? Basketball, baseball, football, hockey.
They all do it because the truth lies in the basics.
Truth is what America was built on. Constitutional truth, biblical truth,
enduring truth, and the future of this Republic depends on
our willingness to defend it because without America, truth dies,
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and when truth dies, liberty follows. And so today a
lot of what I'm going to be talking about, truth
is going to be a part of what I'm talking
about because truth is the key. We need the truth,
we need to follow the truth. And we have known
from the beginning that not only will the truth set
you free, as they say and as the Bible says,
but that these truths are self evident. Yet we have
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a what's the right word, A party, a ideology who
sets truth aside and they play these games. Is once
again perception right. And so it's gotten so bad that
Congress decided to pass a bill demanding that within thirty days,
the Department of Justice release the Epstein files. Why because
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everybody wants to know the truth. President Trump has signed
that bill, Bondi's DOJ from the time he signed it
is suppose are supposed to and I expect them to
release the files within that thirty day window provided. It
is unconstitutional, however, for the Congress to demand that the
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executive branch do anything, but I get why they did it.
I Am not going to get too hung up on
what happened what they did because I understand why they
did it. Now, I'm not saying it's okay not to
follow the constitution. That's not what I'm saying is I
understand what's going on here. So what are the Epstein files?
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I was asked this just recently by someone not in
tune with politics the way I am, and in a nutshell,
they are the files that have been gathered by the
federal government during their investigation regarding Jeffrey Epstein. And for
those of you who have not been paying attention, Epstein
was a fake financier who used financial leverage and corrupt
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schemes to make a lot of money and have the
ability to rub elbows with some pretty powerful and wealthy people. However,
not only was he a criminal in the financial world,
he was also a criminal sexual perverb so so much
so that when Donald Trump discovered how weird Epstein was,
he kicked him out of mar A Lago. He didn't
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know about all of Epstein's dealings and human trafficking at
the time, knew he was a guy, was one crazy weirdo,
and he wanted it out, wanted him out of his place,
and he broke any ties no matter how smell he
had with him being sexual perversion included the Lolita Express.
You've heard about this right, the flights to his sex
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island in the Caribbean, where under age sex was not
only going on, but he was orchestrating it. Epstein, I
mean with his human trafficking operation and federal investigations into
Jeffrey Epstein began in two thousand and five when parents
of a fourteen year old girl reported him to Florida authorities.
Now to understand, this is a state issue at that point,
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but it did lead to a broader federal probe by
the FBI in two thousand and six and two thousand
and five. Investigation uncovered multiple victims and led to a
probable cause affidavit recommending charges for unlawful acts with minors.
The FBI opened a federal investigation under the code named
Operation LaPier in May of two thousand and six, focusing
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on Epstein's sex trafficking of miners across the Eight Lines.
Despite extensive evidence, federal prosecutors of Florida negotiated a controversial
non prosecution agreement in two thousand and seven, which shielded
Epstein and unnamed co conspirators for federal charges. Then, in
two thousand and eight, Epstein pleaded guilty plea deal to
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two counts of soliciting prostitution, one involving a minor, and
he served thirteen months in jail, but with work release privileges.
But the plea deal halted the federal investigation for the moment.
Now think about this, Suddenly you've got this sleeeze. He's
in the grip that. I mean, they're throwing people in
jail for a very long time just for having the
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wrong kind of pictures on their computer. This guy has
admitted to prostitution of miners. He has been charged with
sex with miners. They having figured out out yet extent
of what he's up to, but somebody in the federal
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government knew the extent and they were nervous. That's the
only way I can explain why he suddenly got you know,
you know, shielded from federal charges, and unnamed co conspirators
were shielded for federal charges, and then suddenly the federal
investigation went away. There were some big people protecting him
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because big people could have some real problems if it
was found out what he was up to. And then
we heard nothing after that until twenty eighteen, investigative journalism
reignited public and legal interest in Epstein's case, exposing that
the scope of the abuse was much broader than originally realized.
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Lolid Express, Sex Island. In July twenty nineteen, federal prosecutors
in New York charged Epstein with sex trafficking up minors,
making a full reactivation of federal efforts. Who was president
at that time, Oh, President Donald J. Trump. Keep that
in mind when people try to tell you that Donald J.
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Trump has been trying to protect the man. He was
protected until Trump's presidency the first time, suddenly he was
found out, full reactivation of federal efforts. I understand that
he first appeared during George W. Bush's presidency. His connections,
the Lone Need expressed all that allegedly goes all the
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way back to Bill Clinton. The deep State, I believe,
realized that Epstein's connection to many powerful politicians political donors
could prove devastating to their plans, to their party, to
their movement, to their narrative, whatever, And they did whatever
they could to make sure any progress on the Epstein
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case didn't proceed too quickly, too effectively, or too deeply.
Once Obama's president, I believe they attempted to bury it.
There is evidence that the FBI was destroying files, and
I believe they were destroying records during that time. I believe.
But when in a high year, when we get a
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chance to look at the Epstein files, now, I bet
you most of the important stuff's gone. And understand, one
of the reasons for the crazy panic was because they
realized that after Obama's presidency, Hillary Clinton was to be
Obama's their apparent, and she is, after all, the wife
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of former President Bill Clinton, kind of known for his
own sexual escapades, and whose name has come up quite
a few times when it comes to the names allegedly
listed on flight logs for the lolit Express. Donald Trump
winning in twenty sixteen threw a monkey wrench into everything,
but the Democrats and are leftist allies still maintained control
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of any Epstein files that existed. They weren't too worried
about those files being exposed. They they believed they had
control of the truth and the truth would not get
out because remember their deceptive they don't want you to
know the truth. The truth is a dangerous thing for them. Then,
during Biden's presidency, I believe that more of the files
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were not only destroyed, but as a precaution, false records
were inserted into the Epstein files. When Trump won the
twenty twenty four election, a desperate attempt to destroy more
files by the FBI took place. And while they also
tried to add more false pages and the hopes of
making it look like Trump had enough something they'd do
with Epstein, the reality was they could only do so
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much because this time Trump had learned. Trump knew what
the deep state was all about, and now he knew
who his allies were and who his enemy was. His
enemy had exposed themselves during Biden's presidency, because it was
everyone was convinced Trump was never coming back, So why
should I keep up my my false game? So when
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Epstein was in his fake financier heyday, of course he
and Donald Trump bumped into each other on occasion. As
a businessman always seeking investors, Trump's proximity to circle the
ahotographs should I say? And the Democrats are more than
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happy to put those out there, because if they were
a photographed together with all that, you know, surely they
had a relationship. I can't count how many times I
have I've gotten photographs of people by not necessarily in
their circles. In one case of Riverside County before Sheriff
Chad Bianco, I knew the Riverside County sheriff before that.
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I'm in some pictures photographs with him. Didn't necessarily like him,
but I but I knew who he was. We bumped it,
we were in the same circles. But because I have
pictures of the guy doesn't mean that I was in
full support of his anti Scud Amendment stance. For example,
until Pam Bondi grabbed the reins of the Department of Justice,
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the cash Betel became chief over the FBI. The Democrats'
allies in the deep state bureaucracy had control of the
Epstein files for the entire time, even while Bush was
president and during Trump's first term. They never expected Trump
to return to the White House, and due to the
connections to important Democrats and establishment Republicans, they were happy
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to keep the files buried and out of side of
the public, and when Trump re entered the White House
in twenty twenty five, they panicked. Their false false narrative
as a result, began to bubble to the surface pretty quickly.
With insinuations that somehow Trump was in those files. That's
why the Epstein files are not being released by the
Trump administration's DOJ. I remember Pam Bondi said at one
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point to the American public, the files are on my desk.
I've got them. They're on my desk, But I don't
believe she had looked through them yet. And once she did,
she realized many sections of the files were gone, destroyed, missing,
and fraudulent injuries existed. She couldn't release the files until DOJ.
The DOJ separated fact from fiction. The delay was a
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chance for the Democrats to create their Epstein hoax, to
insinuate that Trump was listed in those files as a
potential pedophile, and that's why they weren't released yet. That's
why they were delaying it. And there's enough people when
they hear this that just believe it. One has to ask, however,
considering how much they hate Trump, the lawfare, everything they
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tried to do to destroy the man, if Trump was
in those files, as they claimed, why didn't they release
the files themselves while they'd have them in their clutches.
If the files say that what they are claiming today,
then they would have sunk the man forever had they
have released him during Biden's presidency. By that fact alone,
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I know that Trump is not implicated in those files,
and as SIGs began working out emails, the text messages
have now come to surface. Democrats released emails from Jeffrey
Epstein's estate claiming that they implicated Donald Trump in Epstein's
sex trafficking activities, but the move backfire redacted victim's name
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in that was Virginia Gwiffrey, already publicly known one who
had testified that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's stuff.
The revelation undermined the Democrats framing of the emails as bombshells,
which brings us back to the current the recent bill
that Trump signed compelling the DOJ to release all unclassified
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Epstein files. While Congress does not have the constitutional authority
to compel the executive branch to do anything thanks to
the separation of powers concept, the reason they did it
was to show the public that the Republicans were happy
to vote in favor of releasing the files, and by
doing that, it turned the table showing that the Democrats
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were orchestrating a hoax against Donald Trump. Now we just
have to wait for the full release of the files. So,
like I said, I believe most of U's been destroyed.
I don't even know if there's going to be anything
really important left, but I do have a feeling there's
going to be enough in there, still hanging in there
that we're going to see some people in big trouble.
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And I think that already we're starting to realize Epstein
was a Democratic Party guy. The Democrats were the ones
mainly rubbing elbows with him, and I believe in the
files that might be possibly information that will end some
Democratic political careers, maybe a couple of Republicans. But I
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think also it's going to destroy many of the donors
to the Democratic Party fallout. After all, it is already
affecting prominent figures like Larry's. He's resigned from the board
of Open AI, advisory rolls at Yale in the Center
for Global Development, and he's taken a leave of absence
at Harvard, where he was teaching economics following revelations of
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his correspondence with Epstein. The Summers is just one of
several high profile individuals caught in the way of scrutiny.
I think more fireworks. Even though I think they destroyed
a lot of the files. I think more fireworks are
sure to come in the next thirty days as the
Epstein files begin to be released. And understand this matters
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a crack in the shell of corruption and elitist muggery
and untruths that have been an integral part of trying
to bring down this country. And I think it will
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a century, it's going to be exposed in more ways
that people realize why because of truth, we'll be back.
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And welcome back, Douglas. He gives mister Constitution Constitution Radio
k MET fourteen ninety Am. I have joined on this
program today every Saturday except for when football gets in
the Way one PM Pacific by Alan Myers and Dennis Jackson.
Dennis Jackson, I just spent twenty minutes talking about truth
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and Epstein and what I think about the files, what
I think might be on the horizon, and the reality.
I believe that probably most of those files that we
need to see are gone destroyed. There's always a shadow
or a mirror image somewhere, so we'll see. But nonetheless,
I do believe some heads are still going to roll.
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I think it's going to be an interesting thirty days.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
What's your thoughts, sir, Well, As you were making your
discussion on truth, you know, I'm trying to think, Okay,
what is the predominant truth? And you know, truth really
comes from God. You know, it's eternal, it doesn't change,
just like He doesn't. You know, truth is a knowledge
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of as things were, as they are, and as they're
going to be. And the dominant truth of the truths
of God is that his son Jesus Christ came and
lived and is the savior of the world. Now the
world can deny that, they can deny him, they can
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have another religion, they can hate God. They can know
he's real and want to serve the devil. They do
anything they want. But ultimately we're going to all have
a judgment day and the big moment will be how
we aligned ourselves to eternal truths. So now that we're
on this planet, here we have the United States, which
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was founded by the founding fathers in the spirit of
everything you said about based upon truth, self evident truth,
based upon God being the creator being acknowledged as such,
and non opinion. These things are real. And as we
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stray from truth, we wind up getting into trouble. And
you've got a lot of powerful people that don't want
it the way it should be. They want it the
way they want it for selfish reasons, authoritarian reasons, power, greed, whatever,
and they've bought a lot of people off. And that's
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where we're fighting now. Now turning all of this to
the Epstein deal, I agree with you that a lot of.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
It's been destroyed.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Now. They do have pictures. I've seen the pictures of
a vault being opened with CDs and various tapes and
all of that. Every picture, every single one of those
items that goes back years ago to those earlier pictures.
There that evidence, those CDs, those recordings, those videos should
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be accounted for, and he ought to be able to
bring them up, put him down on the table, and
try to make the table look like the picture every
single one because they know that they're there. And then
the chain of custody stuff has got to kick in.
If they can see that there's twenty CDs that don't
exist anymore, then somebody ought to be going to jail.
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And if you do it the Rudy Giuliani way, you
get the lowest guy that you can nail because they
can't cover everything up. And then you start playing the
game of going up. You know, we'll cut you a deal,
but you got to talk, and then, like the Rico approach,
you'll work your way up the highest you can in
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the food chain. I really don't trust Pam Bondi to
do that personally. I think she's compromised. Why I don't know,
but she sures Heck hasn't been doing the things that
they were going to be doing.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
But I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
If she saw that the evidence she had on her desk,
someone was fabricated, others is missing, and now she's under
the mandate to put it out there. Like Trump was saying,
we're not going to publish a bunch of garbage, because
that's just going to make things worse, right, you know,
So we'll see what they come up with in thirty days.
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But you know, there are a lot of people that
their heads should roll. And I say that figuratively. They
ought to be arrested, they ought to be indicted, they
ought to be brought to trial. They out to face justice,
whatever that may be. And you have, if I read
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an article right the other week, they've only got another
month or two to bring charges to some of these
people due to statutes of limitations. Unless they can say
that they have continued to commit the crime over and
over by continuing to try to hide it, you know,
then maybe the statute or limitations can go further.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And that's what question about conspiracy comes in. If it's
not going conspiracy, then the statute limitations are set aside.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Right, So I don't know, I mean, I'm interested. Obviously
you mentioned Clinton. I mean he was on in the
flight twenty two times. I don't know if they were
having every other month's poker parties and he was just
going over to play poker. But you know, there's got
to be an explanation for what's going on, and.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
You know, you're going to get a lot of lies.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
And like you say, if they had Trump in that information,
they would have hung him out to dry to make
sure he.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Never would have run again. And I agree with you
that he did give him a stiff arm.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
It was good enough to where even people when they
had the meeting with Maxwell, you know, even out of
that meeting, she said, there's nothing in there that is
a illegality concerning Trump, you know, so we'll see other
than that. I'm in the dark just like all the
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rest of you. But I do want to find out
what the truth is because you know that that should
be unchanging and people should be able to accountable to it.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
But nobody is right.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, Very good, Alan, don't your thoughts about truth
and the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Trus just this in the American way, I tend to
like the word facts more because I find the word
truth or truth to be sometimes misused.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Facts we're often misused.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, it either is correct or it's not. And if
it's correct, it's a fact.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Regarding what you're talking about on all the files, first
of all, and I blame this on you, you know
I do, because you're the one that sit down and
study the constitution. Jess, Really, why is the legislative branch
passing a law to tell the executive branch what to do?
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Right when you and the executive branch could guys, we're
going to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, the Department of Justice falls under the executive ecutive
It's an executive function.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So this whole hoop hoop law of what the House did,
what the Senate did, and where was the important fourth part,
the fourth branch, media, fourth of state. Where were they
did anybody in the national media say, guys, why are
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you doing? This is a waste of time? No, this
I find continually troubling that the constitutional requirements, limitations, arrangements
are being completely ignored at a convenience and the people
who are in the best position to alert the citizens
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of this country this isn't right. They're not doing anything.
They're not saying anything.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Well, they're in on it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
So what can you say, Ah, we need to do more,
that's what we can say.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Next.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
F these files were so bad and and revealing about
the current president, Why the hell did Biden not release them?
Had them? Why out let them out? Nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Because he and his friends getting getting back to ye know, uh,
Trump isn't him because he would have and he didn't
because he he or people close to him or people
he knows or friends or colleagues or Democrats or whatever
are implicated. That's my thinking anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And then finally is you guys walk one over all
of this. The only thing I'll add is, hey, I
need an oil change. Why is it going to take
thirty days? Really thirty days to do this?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
This to me?
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Oh, they still got to analyze it and figure out
what they think is true, what they don't think is true.
Because nobody's been doing it for the last eight months.
They've been talking about it. So now let's hurry up
and get it done.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You know, well, how about release the stuff and then
have the discussion.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Well that's true, but you can at least stuff that
is not true that looks like it was true, and
then you got that in the public discourse too. So
I mean, you lose either way because it's already been bastardized,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So I just find that these documents, these records, they've
been in possession for a long time, and you want
to tell me, after all these years, all of that
stuff has not been fully looked at.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Well, I think a lot of it's been destroyed. I
think they've they've burned and just destroyed stuff. And that's
why I say, you've got pictures of the safe with
all the stuff in it.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Yeah, so show me the stuff that was in the safe.
It was not there. Somebody ill to go to jail.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, the deep state. Remember, the allies of the left
have been in control these files even during Trump's first administration,
you know, bureaucracy, they've been the ones that control them.
It really, it really, it weren't Pride out of the
hands of that bureaucracy until this last nine months.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, to me, it just seems an extraordinary long period
of time to release something that has, I imagine it's
been completely reviewed over and over again over these last
few years. And finally because you opened this in the
beginning regarding truth or truth the Constitution, and somehow the
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Constitution is not applicable today because it was written so
long ago. Okay, what is it about liberty, freedom, rights, individuality,
equality of the opportunity? Why is that not applicable today?
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That doesn't make sense to me, because it's actually essential.
This is where we come to grips with being with
each other, treating each other well, and accepting that everybody
is not going to be like you. That to me
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is the truth.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Alan which is the more important truth?
Speaker 8 (37:02):
The truth the truth that God created us and we
should be free and have liberty, or the truth that
two plus two equals four.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Well, that's a really tough one. I guess it depends
on what you're doing.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Well, that's the point. See, the truth that gets in
the way of greed and power is the truth that
is no longer convenient. But two plus two is four.
It's been four forever, and nobody challenges that. The only
challenge the truths that have to do with principles and morality,
well and fairness.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I mean, jump off a cliff. You're gonna get really
hurt or die. That's the truth.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Stick your face in a bonfire that you know it's
not going to be good dealing with the creator. Go outside,
take a look around, look at nature. Is this thing
of human origin? I'm going to say no, do I
understand or do I even think I can understand the origin?
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I'm going to say no, But it's not of human kind?
And are we the people on this planet. Are we
all the same race?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, we are. We may not.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
We don't look alike. We've got lots of differences, but
we're all Homo sapiens, and it's time we start treating
each other. We don't have to like each other, we
don't have to agree, but at least be respectful and
understand that the things that are important to you, the
real basic things life, liberty, pursue of happiness, they're important
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to you, They're important to me, they're important to you.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You mean like Trump did with Mom Donnie when Mom
Donnie visited him. You mean like that.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I'm just talking about.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Actually actually have a conversation and instead of hating each other,
but you know, have conversation that New York is important
to both Evia.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Have conversations, have discussions, be willing to agree, to not agree,
but have the conversation to find out where your common
ground is with someone else and stand on the common
ground for a while, right.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
And I think that's what Trump did with Mom Donnie.
I was shocked when Mom Donnie made the request, as
you're more shocked that Trump accepted it. And then I
was extra shocked, and I shouldn't have been, because I
know Trump well enough when it came out. Well, you know, Mom,
Donnie's not really that bad a guy. I mean, we
disagree on a lot, but there are things that we
agree on, Like we want New York to be better.
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Only Trump could pull that off. Only Trump, I wouldn't
be I wouldn't be surprised if Mom, Donnie, by the
end of his time as mayor might even change his
narrative and be a anti communists. We'll see. But you asked,
and I want to answer it. You asked, how is
it that these foundational truths are no longer true? I've
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asked that question before, and I've gotten an answer. You
want to hear what the answer was, Yes, because humanity
has evolved to understand the importance of social justice and
the importance of being a collective being.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Where's it ever worked? Oh?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But see, we weren't evolved enough because I had the
same question. My two questions response was where has it worked?
And in that type of society who innovates?
Speaker 8 (40:44):
Well, this go back to your joke about the Italians
and socialism.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, reminded me because, as I've told so many things,
sometimes I don't remember the details.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Well, you talk about you know the thing about socialism
never works. And a guy says, oh, but they didn't
do it right. The Italian guy is saying, we need
to do socialism correctly then it'll work. We keep doing
it wrong.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Well, yeah, My favorite, Myra's favorite discussion regarding the making
it work is the political cartoon I saw with a
guy who's got a fork in his hand and it
says socialism on it and he's getting ready to shove
it into a light socket or I'm sorry, an electrical socket.
A guy walks up and taps him on the shoulderas hey, man,
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the last the last people that have done that, they've
all been hurt and he and he turns. The guy says, yeah,
but they didn't do it right.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Well, that's what I'm referring to, the same type deal is.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
You know, we've evolved, and so now we're gonna go
away from that which.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Somehow electrocuted and we stick the fork in the socket.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's right my question, Doug.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I've heard you both say that people are saying that
we being humans have evolved. Okay, I'm not going to
argue that, but when you tell me that we have evolved,
tell me what we evolved from and two and don't
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tell me that we've got better at making medicines and
we live longer. Okay, so what what what evolution process
has taken place in the last two three hundred years
that has changed the essential nature of humans.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And something similar? And the answer was, we have developed
a collective nature, and so we have I haven't. And
then he said, well that means you're a Neanderthal.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, so we've okay, We've got this Wii. I love
the Wii. And who is the we?
Speaker 8 (43:03):
It's a generic majority that they're trying to make it
sound like is wiser than this minority of us. You know,
I don't like using the word evolved. You know, when
you said I said evolved, I'm quoting somebody.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Else, you know.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
Okay, just so the audience knows, you know, I'm not
an evolved type guy. I know that we can throughout
our life. If you want to say, learn from our
mistakes and we can gain wisdom, you know that's true.
And if you want to call that evolution, that just
gives evolution a reason to be used in a positive fashion.
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But generally it's not. Over time, things degrade.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Don't know your lawn.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
Just let it be natural, don't clean your room. Dest
will settle. Over time, things get worse. It takes work
just to keep things at the current level.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Right, Yeah, the second long thermo dynamics. Mhm.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
The thing is with this idea of uh collective attitude, Well,
everything that started as a good idea in this range
socialism eventually wound up to be communists. And communism is
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the total centralized government control of everything.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
Well, the collective is against the individual exactly, which you know,
which which.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Means so stop here for a second. Alleg so you
should understand the answer. Because you're all into the climate thing.
All all need to know is that there is a
consensus of the people who matter.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
No, there's the consensus of the people who we're told
that matters, and there's very few of them. The whole
thing is is that do you want.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But ninety eight point ninety percent of those who are
involved in climate studies. I just had this conversation with
someone the other day who are involved in climate studies
are in consensus and say, you know why they say
it that that if you're involved in the studies, can
see the people who have proven it wrong are no
longer involved in it. But they are no longer involved
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in it, you don't consider their opinion right.
Speaker 8 (45:39):
And if they're involved in it, they're being paid by it,
and that's why they're saying it makes sense because it's
their paycheck.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And that's how socialism, you know, the collective idea, it's
the same thing, money and power and the people who
are greasing the wheels for themselves, greasing the skids for themselves.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Well, for me, it's this leads to how do you
how do you make this collective life work where you
have to centralize power?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah? Well, and the first it goes back to my
other question. In a system like that, who innovates? If
everybody's exactly the same, the government owns everything, Who innovates?
Who's the guy who takes the chance because they have
incentive of some day making a very good life for
themselves to innovate to something greater? Nobody, because innovation is
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not a thing anymore. What there is no evation, then
you've got Now you go back to what Dennis was
saying earlier about the second law thermo dynamics. Then there
is gonna be no improvement because there's not gonna be
no effort. It's gonna sit there and and like your lawn,
it's gonna eventually go dry and die.
Speaker 8 (46:49):
See the collection, The collective goes back to Doug my
favorite scripture and you know my favorite scripture. Yeah, for
God's all of the world. He did not send a committee. Okay,
so you.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
Know the collective is a committee. You know, it takes
a village.
Speaker 8 (47:07):
According to Clinton, it takes this it now, you know,
it takes a mom, it takes a dad. It takes
you know, civilization of of good laws, common laws, you know,
of respect for you know, individuals and uh and holding
people accountable. But when people lie and they aren't saying
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they're liars, but they're lying and they're saying this is
what I believe. There's no law against a person's belief,
so you can't arrest them because of their belief. But
if they're running for office, and as they run for
office like Mandani, you know they are against the constitution,
but the office says they have to swear for the constitution,
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I'd kick.
Speaker 7 (47:53):
Them off the ballot. You know, you and I never
talked about this.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Says you have to have a republican form of government anyway,
So it is violating that anyway.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Oh yeah, and they get away with it. You over
and over.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, what happens in DC happens everywhere else. This has
been fun.
Speaker 7 (48:22):
Well, running out of time, I'll leave it to you, guys.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Let's talk a little bit more about the lack of truth,
and I'll go through this as quick as I can.
On this one, the BBC doctored and doctored a clip
of Trump's January sixth speech. It shows us how dishonest
the media is. Ruth doesn't work for them. If if
he was the insurrectionist, if he was inciting people of violence,
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why did they have to doctor it? Then by doctoring it,
they're admitting he didn't. What they did is they took
two pieces of the speech that were more almost an
hour aparted them together like could sound like he was
inciting fight to fight, you know, fight, fight, fight, whatever.
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And they got caught. Now, they got caught by the
Daily Telegraph. Not exactly a bastion of conservative thought, but
nonetheless there's some straight shooters there and they caught them. Now.
BBC is surprisingly since apologized and their two top knuckleheads
have resigned. Uh. But here's the thing, and this is
what I want people to understand this is not just
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a BBC problem. This is a CNN problem. This is
an MSNBC, I'm sorry, ms NOW problem. ABC, CBS, uh
mb CBS, ABC, Yeah. Uh. The honest journalism is gone.
There is no truth in journalism. And it's and the
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BBC doctor, he just showed us that it was global.
And you know, and then this and and often it's
not just that they lie or they splice the together,
it's also what they don't talk about. You know, what
they've not been talking about, what they've been giving zero coverage,
the FBI's Arctic Frost operation that's been coming out, How
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the deep state, the Democrats under Obama and Biden surveiled
one hundred and fifty Republican congress congressional representatives and entities
tied to Trump, including Turning Point USA. Zero coverage. How
ABC put out a medicaid study that was wrong.
Speaker 8 (50:34):
It was.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Purposely misleading. But even if it was true, it would
still be billions of dollars going to legal aliens when
it comes to Medicaid. And these are just you know,
these splices and these choices, it's not editorial choices. This
is narrative warfare, the media's refusal to report honestly about
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a number of things, the fact that seventy percent of
ICE arrests involve convicted criminals reporting on the You know,
the Ukrainian refugee who got stabbed in the neck on
a train sixty minutes, giving a sympathetic platform to discredit
a DOJ official fired for failing to properly represent the
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United States in court there as Rebni. When when the
media distorts reality to sabotage and elections, mislead voters under
minus sitting president, we've got a problem.
Speaker 8 (51:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
A lot of people who follow me say, well, that's treason. Well,
Article three does define treasons adhering to their enemies, giving
them aid and comfort. But that with that legal with
that legal threshold is high, the moral civic betrayal is undeniable.
But you know, I don't know if we can necessarily
prove it to be full whatever. But the institutions that
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shape public opinion, they're lying, they don't follow truth. The
BBC's doctor Trump speech, CNN's falsehoods about firearms, ABC's Medicaid distortions,
CBS to glorifying that disgrace, to DOJ official, I mean,
they don't just report the news. They try to shape it,
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twist it, weaponize it against President Trump, against the MAGA movement.
And but what's going on right now with the Epstein files,
with all this sort of stuff, is truth is beginning
to bubble the surface? Is it enough? We're starting to
see resignations, retractions, collapsing ratings with all of these stations,
these networks because the rot is getting exposed. American people,
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I think are waking up. But as the fog of
deception lifts, are we willing to make follow through and finish,
make sure that the truth is what winds up at
the top of the heap. So, with about three minutes remaining,
Alan give me, give me a minute, minute and a half.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Thought BBC did this prior to the election?
Speaker 7 (53:03):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (53:04):
It was one week before the election when the election
is obvious. Obvious foreign intrusion there and foreign yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, the only after being outed at least BBC did uh,
you know acknowledge this is what they did.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
I don't they're necessarily apologizing that was wrong. Maybe they
were apologizing for getting caught, but anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Did BBC make a pledge to not do this again?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
No, Okah, none of them will, lot of them do.
It's all about the narrative.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
I'm going to just finish with this because I know
we're running out of time. All of the things we
talk about are really important and this information needs to
get out. It needs to be discussed. But everybody individual
coutting us, we need to start coming up with a
called action. What are we going to do in response
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to what we're learning. It's one thing to take all
this information in form her own opinions. Well what did
the founders do? They took it a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
The truth out there and and get control of the
situation by running for.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Office, talking to others, doing something because sitting back at
home didn't get the Declaration of Independence signed. I'll leave
it at that.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
It's true. This is true, Dennis. What your thoughts about
BBC and truth and all that jazz one minute?
Speaker 7 (54:42):
Well, I agree with that what you guys have been saying.
Speaker 8 (54:44):
And you got the ABC that's going to have a
new lawsuit because of what Joey Behart did this past week.
You know, she flat out accused him of being guilty,
you know, and the person with her would say, well,
it's a little bit of an overreach. She just doubled down.
So you know, I expect if I could buy stock
and Trump, I know he's going to get another twenty
million dollars out of ABC for round two. We already
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got sixteen off of Stephanopoulos, you know, and and Dehar
ought to be canned because of the legal problem she's
putting them in. So there's obvious evidence between her and
the BBC. And like you say, the stuff that is
lined about and the stuff that is ignored. And maybe
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next week we can talk about the question Alan is saying,
is what we need to do to be more active?
Because yeah, I've got.
Speaker 7 (55:34):
Some ideas, but I'm out of time now.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
So and all of this is why I use words
like alleged. My opinion is I believe all right, real quick,
plug yourself Allen.
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