August 2, 2025 • 33 mins
The frustrations are running high in the DFW sports world, as Micah Parsons sends an open message to the Jones family that he no longer wants to be a Dallas Cowboys.
The Texas Rangers have made a move to add more to their pitching staff but fail to address the main issue of getting some offense in the final stretch of the 2025 season.
Luka Doncic has his revenge body as he prepares for his first full season in a Lakers uniform.
Dave Aranda issues an apology after quoting a line from a movie in response to a question about NIL and recruiting. Will this be a distraction?
Also, Baylor has a key player back after an NCAA reversal of a reversal. We discuss what this means for the Bears.
The Texas Rangers have made a move to add more to their pitching staff but fail to address the main issue of getting some offense in the final stretch of the 2025 season.
Luka Doncic has his revenge body as he prepares for his first full season in a Lakers uniform.
Dave Aranda issues an apology after quoting a line from a movie in response to a question about NIL and recruiting. Will this be a distraction?
Also, Baylor has a key player back after an NCAA reversal of a reversal. We discuss what this means for the Bears.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into another edition of My Conversation with the Chrises
and sometimes our podcast, well they just kind of write themselves.
As we were getting ready to record this week, we
had a list of topics we wanted to cover, and
then the world of sports, at least the world of
the sports that we follow, kind of took a turn
(00:20):
last night. So we're going to start with the Dallas Cowboys.
But first let me welcome in, of course, Chris Shirley
and Chris Byram and Shirley. I'm going to go to
you first on this topic. What in the world is
going on in California for the Dallas Cowboys fall camp.
We talked about it last week, how Jerry Jones always
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likes to have a little drama, but this seems to
be blown out of proportion where now you have one
of the star athletes saying he doesn't want to wear
the star anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, honestly, this wasn't surprising to me at all when
I saw the headlines yesterday. Whenever this right around, I
guess it was lunchtime yesterday here because we we just
saw a player the day before at Washington, you know,
Terry McLaurin say the same thing. In essence, right, So,
(01:14):
I mean this is in my mind, this is just
all part of the game, uh, that that's being played
now in contract negotiations in the NFL. You know, if
you you want to try to force something to happen
sooner rather than later, you just say that you want
to be traded and that you no longer want to
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be a you know, a part of whatever team you're on. Obviously,
the players are rallying around Micah and you know, I
mean they've they've seen how the Joneses operate. But we've
talked about this multiple times, right, like, this is this
is what they do. They they love drama, they love
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the headlines. They uh, they want people talking about them
when when their team is mediocre and is going to
go nowhere. You know, I mean that that's what that's
what they want in August and and uh, that's that's
that's what they have, you know. To me. One of
one of the surprising things, and I had heard that
this was kind of the way that they do contract
(02:21):
negotiations anyway, at least early on. That we learned yesterday
from from Micah Anyway Parsons was that, you know, there's
been no conversation between the Joneses and his agent since
like March right, So that to me, that was a
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little bit surprising that there hasn't even been a little
bit of conversation. But I've also heard in the past
that the Joneses have a salary cap guru that usually
manages the majority of the early negotiations with players agents
and then the Joneses kind of get involved at the
(03:03):
very last minute to kind of finalize a deal, and
so that seems to be the way that they operate.
But you know, it just it seems like it's a
little bit late as far as it relates to you know,
this this contract negotiation, which again you know, we just
got to remind everybody Parsons is his contract's not up,
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like he's in the he's beginning the last year of
his rookie deal, but he has a deal in place.
He's just wanting to get paid. He's just want to
get paid early. Right, So that's what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I mean, from the athlete standpoint, you understand when you
play a sport that one injury could end your career.
So you know, having that, you know, long term contract
in place is what they want. But but Byron, you know,
some of the things I'm seeing on social media and fans,
you know, fans react different ways. There's a little bit
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of a drum beat from some out there. They're saying,
maybe Parsons is not worth the big contract he wants
that maybe his best playing days are behind And this
is a debate that we have with every athlete. But
do you think that's true with Parsons or do you
think it's worth having him on the team for another
you know, call it five seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, guys who get a lot of contact are having
shorter and shorter careers that that's not disputable. So it
could be they're just simply saying, yeah, his best years
are behind him. But there's one other point here that
I read about this morning is that Jones is claiming
that he and Parsons agreed to a dill in March,
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and that's why he's not negotiating, is that they already
have a verbal or handshake agreement in place, and since
they have that, he's not going to negotiate anymore. You know,
I don't know if that's a ploy. I don't know
if that's Jerry to tell everybody, Hey, I'm smarter than
everybody else in the room. But it's undeniable. The NFL
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career other than quarterbacks is seemingly getting shorter and shorter
and shorter. We're far away from the days where guys
like Bob Lilly played fourteen years, you know. And so
Jones may be sitting there saying, from a value point
of view, this may not be the smartest thing. It's
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going to hurt the Cowboys greatly if they trade him
and don't get a whole lot back, But from a
financial standpoint, it may be the best thing. And let's
face that the Cowboys are almost always having salary cap
issues too because of the way that he hands out
contracts to some of his favorite guys, So it can
be a contract issue too, are a cap issue?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I don't know what the cap space is right
now for the Cowboys. I know the NFL recently the
cap which gives you know, the Jones family a little
bit more more room to negotiate these things. But yeah,
it's a good point because I mean, I was, as
you were saying that, I was thinking about how many
years did Emmitt Smith play the game? He's a running back,
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like he don't like Ezekiel Elliott's done. I mean, I
don't think there's anything left in the tank there where.
You know, I think that record rushing record that Emmitt
Smith has may you know, may last forever just because
of how the game, you know, the game is played today.
So the the other debate on social media surely is
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you know, this is kind of an ongoing debate this year.
Who is the worst general manager in the Dallas Fort
Worth sports universe? Is it the owner of the Dallas
Cowboys or the GM managing the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, I mean, maybe it's just because it was most recent,
but I think Nico Harrison is is gonna be it's
gonna be hard pressed to to beat his uh his
his moves in this last season. So I say, I
still stand by the fact that he's the worst GM
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and Dallastforth professional sports right now.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And Bayrom I saw ad onion article yesterday. You know,
you gotta love the onion. They come out with some
classics and it says the Mavericks trade away, trade away
all of their basketballs.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You know, it wouldn't surprise me because any guy who
comes out and says after they drafted Flag, hey, it
was all part of the plan. Yeah, incredible luck is
part of the plan for you there.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, you know, but maybe he's admitting that there was
some back deal, you know, back deal's going on. You know,
maybe he's just openly saying that this was part of
the plan. That's the other conspiracy theory. But let's talk
about Luca for a moment. Lucas having his own version
of the revenge body, you know, when when the couple
breaks up and then they both all of a sudden
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get very healthy and athletic. Have you seen the pictures
of what Luca looks like these days in the off
season as he gets ready for his first full season
in a Lakers uniform.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
He looks pretty amazing. It's it's not the Luca that
we saw in Dallas, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I mean, surely we kind of joked what two seasons ago,
how us average guys can relate to Luca. But man,
he's I mean, he's definitely hit the weight room, Yeah
he is.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He's in the best looks like he's in the best
playing shape of his of his life, at least as
far as his NBA career is concerned. So yeah, I mean,
I guess maybe he took took some of the comments
to heart that were made, you know in the post
trade about his his lack of you know, discipline when
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it comes to his body and and you know those
kind of things. So yeah, he he, he looks looks
pretty pretty good right now.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And maybe this is what Luca needed. You know, maybe
he was too you know, can I say complace it.
I mean, he was a great athlete for the Mavericks.
But but if we go back and listen to some
of our podcasts, we did have some criticism of Luca
on on you know, certain aspects of his game, which
is always rich for three guys that you know, have
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to take Tyland all just when they get out of bed.
But hey, you know that's that's what we do. That's
that's why we have this podcast. But uh, it'll be
interesting to see. Let's talk about the Texas Rangers Byroom'm
going to start with you on this one because you
were the first to pick up on the story amongst
our little text trend that we have going on here.
U are the Texas Rangers? Are the ownership? You know,
(10:03):
these recent moves they've done this week, does it indicate
to you that ownership feels like the Rangers have a
shot to make another run in October.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, I think they feel that way. They made some
moves that put them over kind of the tax cap
for Major League Baseball unless they did something to get
them back under it, which I don't know yet, but
you've got to wonder. They got three pitchers, a starter
in two relievers, and yes they needed them, but last
(10:35):
night their closer, they didn't trade four gave up a
walk off and they still can't hit. And so yes,
they look.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Like they're making a move, But did they get the
right pieces because they may have needed another bad But
I definitely do think they feel like if things fall right,
they could make another move.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
On them this but I still think they're missing too
many pieces.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh man, I could talk a really long time about
my frustration with the Texas Rangers, at least the ownership
groups as they approached the trade deadline. You know. So,
I don't know how long this answer is going to go.
It may go for the rest of our podcast today,
I don't know. But Hey, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Sit back and drink coffee and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Go ahead, there you go, y'all, Just sit back and enjoy.
So I mean multiple things are a play here. I
think I think, first of all, as the Rangers were
approaching a trade deadline, there was a there was a
huge question mark, you know, right at the All Star
break about you know, the Rangers gonna be buyers, are
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they going to be sellers? Are they going to be
you know, just standing pat because I mean we're just
we were just sitting right there right around five hundred,
you know, hadn't really shown any signs that we were
gonna that we were you know, we were going to
go in the toilet, or that we were going to
make this massive run. Right, So I think I think
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Chris Young, our general manager, had had to wait and
see how does the team come out of the All
Star Break? Okay, well that gives you about two to
three weeks before the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Teams had already some teams had already started making moves
even before the All Star break, And immediately out of
the All Star Break, teams started making moves as well.
And so you know, we go on this this whatnot?
We win nine to ten, you know, we get hot,
and all of a sudden it looks like, okay, we're
not going to be sellers. We're going to be buyers, right,
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and so by that point, you know, there there there
were a number of players that well we certainly could
have used that were already off the board. And then
we started hearing all this talk about and the Rangers
only have about one and maybe two million dollars before
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they're going to go over the luxury tax cap, you know,
whatever that was. And ownership has said repeatedly we are
not going to go over that because it'll hurt our
off season this next year bringing people in whatever. Okay,
so you know it feels like Chris Young's hands were
kind of tied by the ownership group and money, you know,
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not being made available to him to go and get players, right,
And so we get to July thirty first, you know,
the trade deadline, and man, all of a sudden, man
closers start going off the board, right. Well, we know
that's that was a huge need for this team was
a real closer because we do not have one. We
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went into this season not having one. We let a
really good closer go during the off season because we
didn't want to pay him so that we could keep him.
And so you know, these guys are flying off the board.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The price for relievers is going up with every single trade,
and because we've waited as long as we have, we
we don't want to give up the capital that we're
going to have to give up in order to be
able to get you know, a top of the line reliever. Well,
the same is true for the bats, and there weren't many.
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There weren't many bats really out there from from what
I'm reading and what I'm hearing about, you know, as
an approach to trade deadline, but there were a handful
of bats that really could have helped us. And you know,
as much as I you know, man, as much as
I do agree we needed a closer, I think we needed,
you know, a couple of bullpen pieces, which we did.
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We got a couple of bullpen pieces. We didn't get
a closer, you know, And so there's that glaring need
is still there, and we saw it, as Chris already
mentioned last night, right, the blown, blown save opportunity because
we don't have one, but the glaring need this team
has had all season long, and it's because of you know,
pun intended to swing and missus by Chris Young in
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the off season by bringing Peterson in and Burger in,
neither of which have done anything whatsoever. We have the
worst batting average as a team at the DH position
in all of Major League Baseball because of these two
guys that they're not hitting at Peterson, I don't know
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what is the demand he has done. What in the
heck were we thinking and bringing that guy? Yet he
is absolutely done, And so this huge hole in the
lineup and we are hitting as a team. We are
ranked twenty eighth out of thirty Major League Baseball teams
in team batting average. So if you're if you're heading
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to the trade deadline and you're going to be a buyer,
what is your number one need? It's a consistent bat
because you don't have one in your lineup right now
out And so we I mean maybe we made an
attempt to go get one, maybe the price was too high,
I don't know, but nevertheless, we did not address the
biggest need that this team has. And so, you know,
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it's it's almost like, you know, we're telling our pitching staff, hey,
you know, don't give up more than one run because
we're not going to be able to overcome that, you know,
for the rest of the season. And and so it's
it's just it's so it's so frustrating. And on top
of that, this is the last thing, and I'll shut up.
I don't know how long I've been going here, but
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it's strict struck a nerve, strick a chord man. We
have one of We we have historic starting pitching e
er a going on for the Texas Rangers this year.
All we have to do is get to the playoffs.
I don't care if we make it by one game.
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If we can just sneak into the playoffs US and
you have Nativaldi and Jacob de Grom starting Game one
and Game two in any series, I love our chances
to be able to win that series. We have the pitching, finally,
in the first time in our history, we have the pitching,
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the starting pitching to go and win a World Series.
But we don't have the bats. We do not have
the bats. And so that's the frustrating thing is that
it feels like that we're absolutely going to waste for
the Texas Rangers historic starting pitching and because we can't
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hit the baseball, because we're terrible at hitting the baseball.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But tell me, Shirley, how do you really feel about it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No, it is interesting because if you look at the
history of the Texas Rangers, they've been in Arlington, you know,
going back to you know, the early days before they
even built the ballpark they're in now, or the ballpark
that they built previous. We've always been the team that
just seems to slug it out, slug it out, and
it's like, you know, we'll win games, but it'll be
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high run games. They almost look like football scores. And
now you're right, we finally have the pitching and then
the bats are cold. And so I'm going to tap
you know, before we move on from the Rangers Byron,
I'm going to tap into your historic baseball knowledge. And
as you you know, because you study the stats, I mean,
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you're a nerd on these things. You know. To Shirley's point,
when when postseason play begins, what is more important, really
good pitching or bats that are are actually connecting. I
know both are important, but you know, if you can
only choose one going in the post season play, what
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would historically, what would you choose.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Based on history pitching by far, teams that have terrible
bats that somehow found their way into the World Series
have won it. You know. The greatest example of that recently,
and I'm talking recently for me was the eighty eight
World Series when the Dodgers beat the A's and the
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A's had the Bash Brothers and the Dodgers had Kurt
Gibson on one leg and he had won at bat
and hit a home run and that was that was
all they needed that their pitching took over.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Was that the Earthquake Series.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
No, that was eighty nine, Okay, that was that was
the next year, gotcha. So it has always been pitching
outways hitting, which was one of the reasons why the
Rangers had so many problems in the early twenty tens. Yeah,
when I got to the World Series, because they're pitching
was never all that great and while their bats were awesome,
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they got shut down by better pitching. So you know,
I could give a hundred examples here and I'm not,
which you should be thankful about. But uh, yeah, pitching
almost always wins out in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, we're going to see. And you know, the Rangers
have been one of the hotter teams as far as
you know since since the All Start break. Record wise, No,
we talked about you know, walk off last night, So
we'll see, we'll see what happens. I'm gonna shift gears
and keeping it with you byrom On on what's going
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on in Waco. And before we talk about the good news,
quirky story came out last night where coach Miranda was
offering an apology for a statement that was made. What
in the world is going on with that? Because I
totally missed this statement. Was it a statement that was
made at the at the Big twelve media days? Was
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it somewhere else? You know? And and we don't want
to make the same statement, so we don't have to
issue an apology next week. But but what exactly was
that about?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Okay, I'm going to shock you guys, because I actually
found out something last night.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I really didn't know about this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He quoted a line from a movie that had a
word that, up until about two years ago, in my opinion,
was highly common for little people. I'm going to use
the proper term here, little people, all right, are dwarfism.
That's the that's the medical name for it. Okay, dwarfism.
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And I'm about to tell you why I know all
this well. He quoted the line from the movie. Well,
I believe it was the Association of Little People of
America went up in arms and apparently got some of
the media involved, because all of us, all of a sudden,
I'm seeing articles that say Miranda used a slur and.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I totally not his character by the way.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right, And I'm thinking, my gosh, what did he go
on a rent and say something that you know that
I would have considered a slur from when I was
a kid. And then I found out he used that
word quoting a line from a movie, and I'm just
I was in total disbelief, and I really think, and
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I have to be careful here, I really think this
was part of a publicity graph too. But after I
think some discussion, he apologized. You could make an argument
it wasn't a great apology because I didn't think he
really needed to apologize. I listened to I read some
of the responses to some of the articles on it,
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and it's it's mind blowing because people are all over
the place. There are some people who are just I'm
greatly offended, and there are other people saying I didn't
even know this was an issue. But I discovered last
night that my stepdaughter who you guys know is a
member of the Little People of America and I did
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not know that. And we were kind of discussing this
last night and asking the question, are we offended that
Horanda used this phrase? And the answer was no, not
at all. He's quoting a movie. So it is one
of the oddest things. Hopefully it goes away fast because
we don't need distractions. But this is just kind of
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one of the craziest, weirdest things. And I really do
think people like to pick on Baylor, and because we're Baptist,
we react to it, and so I still don't get it.
But yeah, that's kind of the whole story.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
He was responding to a question had been asked about,
you know, recruiting in this day and age of n
I L and transfer portal and just how how difficult
it was to both get players and then have to
keep them, you know. And so that was and then
then he quoted the Wolf of Wall Street the movie,
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and these these lines from that movie in response to, uh,
this question, And and this was all over social media
a couple of weeks ago, just because it was a
it was a it was a very de Miranda off
the walls very strange cerebral. Eventually I'll get there, but
I'm going to take the long route to get around
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to the answer in using this analogy or metaphor or
whatever to to answer the question. You know, this is
this is the Berenstain Bears, you know, type type of
response to something and which which we've come you know,
we've come to uh know and love about Randa, and
now all of a sudden, like I didn't even know
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about this blowback until yesterday when when when we were
talking about this in the text thread, you know, And
so look at number one. I don't think this is
necessarily shot at Baylor. I just think I just we
you know, we all know this. But people are just
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looking for a reason to be offended today. That's just
the fact of the matter. People are too easily offended today.
People are soft, they have their thin their skin is
so thin, and we're offended by the least little thing,
the least little perceived slight, right, and you know, I
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mean Randa. He wouldn't even mean anything by this. It
was just the way his mind works, and that's where
that's where he went, you know, pulling from this uh
this movie quote. So I you know anyway, it's it's unfortunate,
but it didn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But there was a big story that came out of
Waco that was positive, Chris, surely. And it's something that
has frustrated you since the news came out. Are you
happy that we got our wide receiver back.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Ashton Hawkins was finally freed this week, right, right, So,
you know, I just this was this was the right
thing to do. You know, we've we've talked about what
happened here. He was told he was told by the NCAA.
Initially he was granted the sixth year of eligibility. There
have been other players in the same exact circumstances that
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have been granted an extra year of eligibility. Uh, and
then they then they took that away after the draft, right,
so he couldn't even you know, potentially be drafted by
the NFL or even end up on somebody's you know,
as an undrafted free agent on somebody. He's somebody team
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going through training camp, and so he's been working out,
he's been practicing, and finally this week, you know, he
heard from the n c double A that he was
granted that that extra year of eligibility, and I think
that's I think that's the right thing from what I
know about the situation and other players in similar circumstances,
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I think it's UH. I think it's the it's the
right thing to do, and it just makes our wide
receiver room that much stronger. I mean, he was our
second leading UH receiver by receptions this last year, and so,
you know, just another target for Sawry Robertson to throw
to this season. So I'm really happy for him and
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and obviously happy for the Bears.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
My room, I'm really trying to not get as excited
as I want to be for this Baylor foot ball
season when I think about how great our running back
room is, our wide receiver room, to Shirley's point, is
now better. We got a quarterback that some people out
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there are kind of whispering could be on the Heisman
watch list late in the season. You have an offensive
line that's got experienced. Defensively, we've got some key things
going on there. I know you mentioned last week that
some secondary issues to watch out for, but my goodness,
how excited are you getting that we are now less
than a month from kickoff of Baylor football.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I'm a long time Baylor fan. I am trying to
be very careful because my hopes have been dashed before,
and so I am just really trying to be careful.
And I have to admit my heart kind of jumped
even more because Miranda after the first practice came out
and said, we have a bunch of individuals, we're not
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a team yet. And I'm like, oh my gosh, Miranda's
being tough. What's going on? We could have a good year.
But yeah, I'm really having to be careful because I've
got a lot of hope. But I'm telling you we're
gonna be either on the roof jumping up and down,
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or just really depressed after the first two games.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Maybe after the first one. Yeah, Friday night under the lights,
earliest Baylor's ever had a blackout game. Shirley Auburn come
into town. Same question to you, like, are you having
to force yourself to Tampa expectations or are you ready
to just drink the kool aid and let's go.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, I'm really I'm really excited about what this team
could could accomplish this year. And as we've talked about before,
I mean, we're gonna we will know in the first
four weeks of the season, you know what we have
in this team and where they could possibly go because
of you know how difficult three of our first four
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games are going to be to start the season. So
you know, if we can if we can go you
know three and one, heck four, I mean obviously four
and oh, it's gonna be super excited. But if you
know we can win that Auburn game or the SMU game,
certainly in the end conference Big twelve game against the
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opener against Arizona State at home, you know we're going
to be in really good shape.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Final Baylor question for both of you, how many times
will I text the word ballgame to our text stream
this this season? Byrom, how many times am I going
to text the word ball game?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Scott? I predict after Auburn has their first ten yard
play you're going to text it all. I'm going to
say at least, let's see we play twelve games. Yeah,
I'm going to say at least twelve times, and it'll
be at the most frustrating moment of the game up
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to that point.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Do you agree with that, Shirley?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I do so for those who don't know, it got
to be a joke. I don't know, maybe the last
two seasons that at the point it started off like
legit frustration, I'd say, that's it, this ball game, it's over.
And then as soon as i'd send that out, like
within the next you know, two series, the team would
put together some drives and would win the game. And
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so you know, Byron's like that got to be the joke, Like,
you know, the team would respond to me texting ballgames.
So hey, if it works, I'm going to do it
all right, Time for one more thing. What's our one
more thing this morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So my one more thing is just a shout out
to just the amazing season that Nate Devaldi is having.
So just a couple of couple of things. My one
more thing is Nativaldi. But I got a couple of
things included in my one more thing. Okay. So his
one point four to nine ERA through his first eighteen
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starts is the twelfth best in Major League Baseball's Live
Baseball Era. I mean, names on this list include Bob Gibson,
Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens. Like he is having a historic year.
He's the second pitcher in Rangers history to have five
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plus wins with a sub one er in a single month,
his ERA for the month of July point five nine
with thirty strikeouts. Amazing, amazing month that Nativaldi just had.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That is amazing. That is very good. Byer me have
one more thing for us already for Chris, Byram, Chris Shirley.
I'm Scott Miller until next time. So long, everybody,
Welcome into another edition of My Conversation with the Chrises
and sometimes our podcast, well they just kind of write themselves.
As we were getting ready to record this week, we
had a list of topics we wanted to cover, and
then the world of sports, at least the world of
the sports that we follow, kind of took a turn
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last night. So we're going to start with the Dallas Cowboys.
But first let me welcome in, of course, Chris Shirley
and Chris Byram and Shirley. I'm going to go to
you first on this topic. What in the world is
going on in California for the Dallas Cowboys fall camp.
We talked about it last week, how Jerry Jones always
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likes to have a little drama, but this seems to
be blown out of proportion where now you have one
of the star athletes saying he doesn't want to wear
the star anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, honestly, this wasn't surprising to me at all when
I saw the headlines yesterday. Whenever this right around, I
guess it was lunchtime yesterday here because we we just
saw a player the day before at Washington, you know,
Terry McLaurin say the same thing. In essence, right, So,
(01:14):
I mean this is in my mind, this is just
all part of the game, uh, that that's being played
now in contract negotiations in the NFL. You know, if
you you want to try to force something to happen
sooner rather than later, you just say that you want
to be traded and that you no longer want to
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be a you know, a part of whatever team you're on. Obviously,
the players are rallying around Micah and you know, I
mean they've they've seen how the Joneses operate. But we've
talked about this multiple times, right, like, this is this
is what they do. They they love drama, they love
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the headlines. They uh, they want people talking about them
when when their team is mediocre and is going to
go nowhere. You know, I mean that that's what that's
what they want in August and and uh, that's that's
that's what they have, you know. To me. One of
one of the surprising things, and I had heard that
this was kind of the way that they do contract
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negotiations anyway, at least early on. That we learned yesterday
from from Micah Anyway Parsons was that, you know, there's
been no conversation between the Joneses and his agent since
like March right, So that to me, that was a
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little bit surprising that there hasn't even been a little
bit of conversation. But I've also heard in the past
that the Joneses have a salary cap guru that usually
manages the majority of the early negotiations with players agents
and then the Joneses kind of get involved at the
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very last minute to kind of finalize a deal, and
so that seems to be the way that they operate.
But you know, it just it seems like it's a
little bit late as far as it relates to you know,
this this contract negotiation, which again you know, we just
got to remind everybody Parsons is his contract's not up,
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like he's in the he's beginning the last year of
his rookie deal, but he has a deal in place.
He's just wanting to get paid. He's just want to
get paid early. Right, So that's what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I mean, from the athlete standpoint, you understand when you
play a sport that one injury could end your career.
So you know, having that, you know, long term contract
in place is what they want. But but Byron, you know,
some of the things I'm seeing on social media and fans,
you know, fans react different ways. There's a little bit
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of a drum beat from some out there. They're saying,
maybe Parsons is not worth the big contract he wants
that maybe his best playing days are behind And this
is a debate that we have with every athlete. But
do you think that's true with Parsons or do you
think it's worth having him on the team for another
you know, call it five seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, guys who get a lot of contact are having
shorter and shorter careers that that's not disputable. So it
could be they're just simply saying, yeah, his best years
are behind him. But there's one other point here that
I read about this morning is that Jones is claiming
that he and Parsons agreed to a dill in March,
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and that's why he's not negotiating, is that they already
have a verbal or handshake agreement in place, and since
they have that, he's not going to negotiate anymore. You know,
I don't know if that's a ploy. I don't know
if that's Jerry to tell everybody, Hey, I'm smarter than
everybody else in the room. But it's undeniable. The NFL
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career other than quarterbacks is seemingly getting shorter and shorter
and shorter. We're far away from the days where guys
like Bob Lilly played fourteen years, you know. And so
Jones may be sitting there saying, from a value point
of view, this may not be the smartest thing. It's
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going to hurt the Cowboys greatly if they trade him
and don't get a whole lot back, But from a
financial standpoint, it may be the best thing. And let's
face that the Cowboys are almost always having salary cap
issues too because of the way that he hands out
contracts to some of his favorite guys, So it can
be a contract issue too, are a cap issue?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, I don't know what the cap space is right
now for the Cowboys. I know the NFL recently the
cap which gives you know, the Jones family a little
bit more more room to negotiate these things. But yeah,
it's a good point because I mean, I was, as
you were saying that, I was thinking about how many
years did Emmitt Smith play the game? He's a running back,
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like he don't like Ezekiel Elliott's done. I mean, I
don't think there's anything left in the tank there where.
You know, I think that record rushing record that Emmitt
Smith has may you know, may last forever just because
of how the game, you know, the game is played today.
So the the other debate on social media surely is
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you know, this is kind of an ongoing debate this year.
Who is the worst general manager in the Dallas Fort
Worth sports universe? Is it the owner of the Dallas
Cowboys or the GM managing the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, I mean, maybe it's just because it was most recent,
but I think Nico Harrison is is gonna be it's
gonna be hard pressed to to beat his uh his
his moves in this last season. So I say, I
still stand by the fact that he's the worst GM
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and Dallastforth professional sports right now.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And Bayrom I saw ad onion article yesterday. You know,
you gotta love the onion. They come out with some
classics and it says the Mavericks trade away, trade away
all of their basketballs.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You know, it wouldn't surprise me because any guy who
comes out and says after they drafted Flag, hey, it
was all part of the plan. Yeah, incredible luck is
part of the plan for you there.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, you know, but maybe he's admitting that there was
some back deal, you know, back deal's going on. You know,
maybe he's just openly saying that this was part of
the plan. That's the other conspiracy theory. But let's talk
about Luca for a moment. Lucas having his own version
of the revenge body, you know, when when the couple
breaks up and then they both all of a sudden
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get very healthy and athletic. Have you seen the pictures
of what Luca looks like these days in the off
season as he gets ready for his first full season
in a Lakers uniform.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
He looks pretty amazing. It's it's not the Luca that
we saw in Dallas, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I mean, surely we kind of joked what two seasons ago,
how us average guys can relate to Luca. But man,
he's I mean, he's definitely hit the weight room, Yeah
he is.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He's in the best looks like he's in the best
playing shape of his of his life, at least as
far as his NBA career is concerned. So yeah, I mean,
I guess maybe he took took some of the comments
to heart that were made, you know in the post
trade about his his lack of you know, discipline when
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it comes to his body and and you know those
kind of things. So yeah, he he, he looks looks
pretty pretty good right now.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And maybe this is what Luca needed. You know, maybe
he was too you know, can I say complace it.
I mean, he was a great athlete for the Mavericks.
But but if we go back and listen to some
of our podcasts, we did have some criticism of Luca
on on you know, certain aspects of his game, which
is always rich for three guys that you know, have
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to take Tyland all just when they get out of bed.
But hey, you know that's that's what we do. That's
that's why we have this podcast. But uh, it'll be
interesting to see. Let's talk about the Texas Rangers Byroom'm
going to start with you on this one because you
were the first to pick up on the story amongst
our little text trend that we have going on here.
U are the Texas Rangers? Are the ownership? You know,
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these recent moves they've done this week, does it indicate
to you that ownership feels like the Rangers have a
shot to make another run in October.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, I think they feel that way. They made some
moves that put them over kind of the tax cap
for Major League Baseball unless they did something to get
them back under it, which I don't know yet, but
you've got to wonder. They got three pitchers, a starter
in two relievers, and yes they needed them, but last
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night their closer, they didn't trade four gave up a
walk off and they still can't hit. And so yes,
they look.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Like they're making a move, But did they get the
right pieces because they may have needed another bad But
I definitely do think they feel like if things fall right,
they could make another move.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
On them this but I still think they're missing too
many pieces.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh man, I could talk a really long time about
my frustration with the Texas Rangers, at least the ownership
groups as they approached the trade deadline. You know. So,
I don't know how long this answer is going to go.
It may go for the rest of our podcast today,
I don't know. But Hey, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Sit back and drink coffee and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Go ahead, there you go, y'all, Just sit back and enjoy.
So I mean multiple things are a play here. I
think I think, first of all, as the Rangers were
approaching a trade deadline, there was a there was a
huge question mark, you know, right at the All Star
break about you know, the Rangers gonna be buyers, are
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they going to be sellers? Are they going to be
you know, just standing pat because I mean we're just
we were just sitting right there right around five hundred,
you know, hadn't really shown any signs that we were
gonna that we were you know, we were going to
go in the toilet, or that we were going to
make this massive run. Right, So I think I think
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Chris Young, our general manager, had had to wait and
see how does the team come out of the All
Star Break? Okay, well that gives you about two to
three weeks before the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Teams had already some teams had already started making moves
even before the All Star break, And immediately out of
the All Star Break, teams started making moves as well.
And so you know, we go on this this whatnot?
We win nine to ten, you know, we get hot,
and all of a sudden it looks like, okay, we're
not going to be sellers. We're going to be buyers, right,
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and so by that point, you know, there there there
were a number of players that well we certainly could
have used that were already off the board. And then
we started hearing all this talk about and the Rangers
only have about one and maybe two million dollars before
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they're going to go over the luxury tax cap, you know,
whatever that was. And ownership has said repeatedly we are
not going to go over that because it'll hurt our
off season this next year bringing people in whatever. Okay,
so you know it feels like Chris Young's hands were
kind of tied by the ownership group and money, you know,
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not being made available to him to go and get players, right,
And so we get to July thirty first, you know,
the trade deadline, and man, all of a sudden, man
closers start going off the board, right. Well, we know
that's that was a huge need for this team was
a real closer because we do not have one. We
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went into this season not having one. We let a
really good closer go during the off season because we
didn't want to pay him so that we could keep him.
And so you know, these guys are flying off the board.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The price for relievers is going up with every single trade,
and because we've waited as long as we have, we
we don't want to give up the capital that we're
going to have to give up in order to be
able to get you know, a top of the line reliever. Well,
the same is true for the bats, and there weren't many.
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There weren't many bats really out there from from what
I'm reading and what I'm hearing about, you know, as
an approach to trade deadline, but there were a handful
of bats that really could have helped us. And you know,
as much as I you know, man, as much as
I do agree we needed a closer, I think we needed,
you know, a couple of bullpen pieces, which we did.
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We got a couple of bullpen pieces. We didn't get
a closer, you know, And so there's that glaring need
is still there, and we saw it, as Chris already
mentioned last night, right, the blown, blown save opportunity because
we don't have one, but the glaring need this team
has had all season long, and it's because of you know,
pun intended to swing and missus by Chris Young in
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the off season by bringing Peterson in and Burger in,
neither of which have done anything whatsoever. We have the
worst batting average as a team at the DH position
in all of Major League Baseball because of these two
guys that they're not hitting at Peterson, I don't know
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what is the demand he has done. What in the
heck were we thinking and bringing that guy? Yet he
is absolutely done, And so this huge hole in the
lineup and we are hitting as a team. We are
ranked twenty eighth out of thirty Major League Baseball teams
in team batting average. So if you're if you're heading
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to the trade deadline and you're going to be a buyer,
what is your number one need? It's a consistent bat
because you don't have one in your lineup right now
out And so we I mean maybe we made an
attempt to go get one, maybe the price was too high,
I don't know, but nevertheless, we did not address the
biggest need that this team has. And so, you know,
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it's it's almost like, you know, we're telling our pitching staff, hey,
you know, don't give up more than one run because
we're not going to be able to overcome that, you know,
for the rest of the season. And and so it's
it's just it's so it's so frustrating. And on top
of that, this is the last thing, and I'll shut up.
I don't know how long I've been going here, but
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it's strict struck a nerve, strick a chord man. We
have one of We we have historic starting pitching e
er a going on for the Texas Rangers this year.
All we have to do is get to the playoffs.
I don't care if we make it by one game.
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If we can just sneak into the playoffs US and
you have Nativaldi and Jacob de Grom starting Game one
and Game two in any series, I love our chances
to be able to win that series. We have the pitching, finally,
in the first time in our history, we have the pitching,
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the starting pitching to go and win a World Series.
But we don't have the bats. We do not have
the bats. And so that's the frustrating thing is that
it feels like that we're absolutely going to waste for
the Texas Rangers historic starting pitching and because we can't
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hit the baseball, because we're terrible at hitting the baseball.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But tell me, Shirley, how do you really feel about it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No, it is interesting because if you look at the
history of the Texas Rangers, they've been in Arlington, you know,
going back to you know, the early days before they
even built the ballpark they're in now, or the ballpark
that they built previous. We've always been the team that
just seems to slug it out, slug it out, and
it's like, you know, we'll win games, but it'll be
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high run games. They almost look like football scores. And
now you're right, we finally have the pitching and then
the bats are cold. And so I'm going to tap
you know, before we move on from the Rangers Byron,
I'm going to tap into your historic baseball knowledge. And
as you you know, because you study the stats, I mean,
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you're a nerd on these things. You know. To Shirley's point,
when when postseason play begins, what is more important, really
good pitching or bats that are are actually connecting. I
know both are important, but you know, if you can
only choose one going in the post season play, what
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would historically, what would you choose.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Based on history pitching by far, teams that have terrible
bats that somehow found their way into the World Series
have won it. You know. The greatest example of that recently,
and I'm talking recently for me was the eighty eight
World Series when the Dodgers beat the A's and the
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A's had the Bash Brothers and the Dodgers had Kurt
Gibson on one leg and he had won at bat
and hit a home run and that was that was
all they needed that their pitching took over.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Was that the Earthquake Series.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
No, that was eighty nine, Okay, that was that was
the next year, gotcha. So it has always been pitching
outways hitting, which was one of the reasons why the
Rangers had so many problems in the early twenty tens. Yeah,
when I got to the World Series, because they're pitching
was never all that great and while their bats were awesome,
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they got shut down by better pitching. So you know,
I could give a hundred examples here and I'm not,
which you should be thankful about. But uh, yeah, pitching
almost always wins out in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, we're going to see. And you know, the Rangers
have been one of the hotter teams as far as
you know since since the All Start break. Record wise, No,
we talked about you know, walk off last night, So
we'll see, we'll see what happens. I'm gonna shift gears
and keeping it with you byrom On on what's going
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on in Waco. And before we talk about the good news,
quirky story came out last night where coach Miranda was
offering an apology for a statement that was made. What
in the world is going on with that? Because I
totally missed this statement. Was it a statement that was
made at the at the Big twelve media days? Was
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it somewhere else? You know? And and we don't want
to make the same statement, so we don't have to
issue an apology next week. But but what exactly was
that about?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Okay, I'm going to shock you guys, because I actually
found out something last night.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I really didn't know about this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He quoted a line from a movie that had a
word that, up until about two years ago, in my opinion,
was highly common for little people. I'm going to use
the proper term here, little people, all right, are dwarfism.
That's the that's the medical name for it. Okay, dwarfism.
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And I'm about to tell you why I know all
this well. He quoted the line from the movie. Well,
I believe it was the Association of Little People of
America went up in arms and apparently got some of
the media involved, because all of us, all of a sudden,
I'm seeing articles that say Miranda used a slur and.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I totally not his character by the way.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Right, And I'm thinking, my gosh, what did he go
on a rent and say something that you know that
I would have considered a slur from when I was
a kid. And then I found out he used that
word quoting a line from a movie, and I'm just
I was in total disbelief, and I really think, and
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I have to be careful here, I really think this
was part of a publicity graph too. But after I
think some discussion, he apologized. You could make an argument
it wasn't a great apology because I didn't think he
really needed to apologize. I listened to I read some
of the responses to some of the articles on it,
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and it's it's mind blowing because people are all over
the place. There are some people who are just I'm
greatly offended, and there are other people saying I didn't
even know this was an issue. But I discovered last
night that my stepdaughter who you guys know is a
member of the Little People of America and I did
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not know that. And we were kind of discussing this
last night and asking the question, are we offended that
Horanda used this phrase? And the answer was no, not
at all. He's quoting a movie. So it is one
of the oddest things. Hopefully it goes away fast because
we don't need distractions. But this is just kind of
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one of the craziest, weirdest things. And I really do
think people like to pick on Baylor, and because we're Baptist,
we react to it, and so I still don't get it.
But yeah, that's kind of the whole story.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
He was responding to a question had been asked about,
you know, recruiting in this day and age of n
I L and transfer portal and just how how difficult
it was to both get players and then have to
keep them, you know. And so that was and then
then he quoted the Wolf of Wall Street the movie,
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and these these lines from that movie in response to, uh,
this question, And and this was all over social media
a couple of weeks ago, just because it was a
it was a it was a very de Miranda off
the walls very strange cerebral. Eventually I'll get there, but
I'm going to take the long route to get around
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to the answer in using this analogy or metaphor or
whatever to to answer the question. You know, this is
this is the Berenstain Bears, you know, type type of
response to something and which which we've come you know,
we've come to uh know and love about Randa, and
now all of a sudden, like I didn't even know
(25:05):
about this blowback until yesterday when when when we were
talking about this in the text thread, you know, And
so look at number one. I don't think this is
necessarily shot at Baylor. I just think I just we
you know, we all know this. But people are just
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looking for a reason to be offended today. That's just
the fact of the matter. People are too easily offended today.
People are soft, they have their thin their skin is
so thin, and we're offended by the least little thing,
the least little perceived slight, right, and you know, I
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mean Randa. He wouldn't even mean anything by this. It
was just the way his mind works, and that's where
that's where he went, you know, pulling from this uh
this movie quote. So I you know anyway, it's it's unfortunate,
but it didn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But there was a big story that came out of
Waco that was positive, Chris, surely. And it's something that
has frustrated you since the news came out. Are you
happy that we got our wide receiver back.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Ashton Hawkins was finally freed this week, right, right, So,
you know, I just this was this was the right
thing to do. You know, we've we've talked about what
happened here. He was told he was told by the NCAA.
Initially he was granted the sixth year of eligibility. There
have been other players in the same exact circumstances that
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have been granted an extra year of eligibility. Uh, and
then they then they took that away after the draft, right,
so he couldn't even you know, potentially be drafted by
the NFL or even end up on somebody's you know,
as an undrafted free agent on somebody. He's somebody team
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going through training camp, and so he's been working out,
he's been practicing, and finally this week, you know, he
heard from the n c double A that he was
granted that that extra year of eligibility, and I think
that's I think that's the right thing from what I
know about the situation and other players in similar circumstances,
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I think it's UH. I think it's the it's the
right thing to do, and it just makes our wide
receiver room that much stronger. I mean, he was our
second leading UH receiver by receptions this last year, and so,
you know, just another target for Sawry Robertson to throw
to this season. So I'm really happy for him and
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and obviously happy for the Bears.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
My room, I'm really trying to not get as excited
as I want to be for this Baylor foot ball
season when I think about how great our running back
room is, our wide receiver room, to Shirley's point, is
now better. We got a quarterback that some people out
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there are kind of whispering could be on the Heisman
watch list late in the season. You have an offensive
line that's got experienced. Defensively, we've got some key things
going on there. I know you mentioned last week that
some secondary issues to watch out for, but my goodness,
how excited are you getting that we are now less
than a month from kickoff of Baylor football.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I'm a long time Baylor fan. I am trying to
be very careful because my hopes have been dashed before,
and so I am just really trying to be careful.
And I have to admit my heart kind of jumped
even more because Miranda after the first practice came out
and said, we have a bunch of individuals, we're not
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a team yet. And I'm like, oh my gosh, Miranda's
being tough. What's going on? We could have a good year.
But yeah, I'm really having to be careful because I've
got a lot of hope. But I'm telling you we're
gonna be either on the roof jumping up and down,
(29:18):
or just really depressed after the first two games.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Maybe after the first one. Yeah, Friday night under the lights,
earliest Baylor's ever had a blackout game. Shirley Auburn come
into town. Same question to you, like, are you having
to force yourself to Tampa expectations or are you ready
to just drink the kool aid and let's go.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, I'm really I'm really excited about what this team
could could accomplish this year. And as we've talked about before,
I mean, we're gonna we will know in the first
four weeks of the season, you know what we have
in this team and where they could possibly go because
of you know how difficult three of our first four
(30:06):
games are going to be to start the season. So
you know, if we can if we can go you
know three and one, heck four, I mean obviously four
and oh, it's gonna be super excited. But if you
know we can win that Auburn game or the SMU game,
certainly in the end conference Big twelve game against the
(30:27):
opener against Arizona State at home, you know we're going
to be in really good shape.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Final Baylor question for both of you, how many times
will I text the word ballgame to our text stream
this this season? Byrom, how many times am I going
to text the word ball game?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Scott? I predict after Auburn has their first ten yard
play you're going to text it all. I'm going to
say at least, let's see we play twelve games. Yeah,
I'm going to say at least twelve times, and it'll
be at the most frustrating moment of the game up
(31:10):
to that point.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Do you agree with that, Shirley?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I do so for those who don't know, it got
to be a joke. I don't know, maybe the last
two seasons that at the point it started off like
legit frustration, I'd say, that's it, this ball game, it's over.
And then as soon as i'd send that out, like
within the next you know, two series, the team would
put together some drives and would win the game. And
(31:37):
so you know, Byron's like that got to be the joke, Like,
you know, the team would respond to me texting ballgames.
So hey, if it works, I'm going to do it
all right, Time for one more thing. What's our one
more thing this morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So my one more thing is just a shout out
to just the amazing season that Nate Devaldi is having.
So just a couple of couple of things. My one
more thing is Nativaldi. But I got a couple of
things included in my one more thing. Okay. So his
one point four to nine ERA through his first eighteen
(32:13):
starts is the twelfth best in Major League Baseball's Live
Baseball Era. I mean, names on this list include Bob Gibson,
Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens. Like he is having a historic year.
He's the second pitcher in Rangers history to have five
(32:35):
plus wins with a sub one er in a single month,
his ERA for the month of July point five nine
with thirty strikeouts. Amazing, amazing month that Nativaldi just had.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That is amazing. That is very good. Byer me have
one more thing for us already for Chris, Byram, Chris Shirley.
I'm Scott Miller until next time. So long, everybody,
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