December 9, 2024 • 48 mins
Barbara with returns to the podcast since episode 21!
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It gets frustrated at some time. So in twenty twenty five,
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puts it also next week and John Oltson joins me
next week to talk about ghosts and glitches and UFOs
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and so much more. That's next week. I think it's
next week, and we'll see. And my guest this week
is Barbara with and she last appeared on the podcast
on July thirty first, twenty and twenty three, and now
she appears today on episode number ninety two, and she
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was on episode twenty one I don't know if I
said that or not today, but today we're gonna talk
about her, about her World Peace Tour and so much more.
And so Barbara and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Hey, Jacob, thanks for having me. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh it's I'm doing pretty good. Oh it's I want
to thank you for coming back on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Hey, my pleasure.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
When you said that date, I thought that was right
about the start of when I was announcing and doing
my podcasts to talk about my World Peace tour.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Now it's been a year over a year.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Absolutely. Now for people that did not watch the first
time he was on the podcast, can you give us
a little back Gunn who you are?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yes, absolutely, I am many things, but I'm an author
and I'm also a psychic channel. And that whole story
is a long story. It's very interesting, but we did it.
I think on the first podcast they can go back
to twenty one was that. But I have been working
with a group called the Party and it's headed up
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by Albert Einstein. And this is decades of work, decades
of unfolding and the bottom line of what would Albert
Einstein want to tell us from.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Beyond the grave?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Is he brought us a revolutionary way to resolve conflict
first within ourselves, and then he also brought forth from
the afterlife through me and my channeling, a unified field
theory with what he calls a map of human consciousness
and a definition of compassion. He uses a capital ce,
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compassion as the fifth fundamental force of the universe. And
so that has led me in this time in my life.
After thirty years of doing this work, the research of
going into what we call conflict revolution, and I have
five books, many awards, I decided I would set out
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in this day and age. It was twenty twenty three
and things weren't looking so good out there for many
parts of the world, and I would go on a
world peace tour. And what that meant was just sort
of what now, I'm not a Christian, but kind of
what I think Jesus did.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
He just got up in a day.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And he went out with this intention that he was
going to facilitate this change in the world by being
sort of the divine representation of what humanity can be
and hoping to inspire people. And so that's what I did.
So you were one of the first people started out
on July ninth, because that is the anniversary of what
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is called the Bertrand Russell Manifesto Russell Einstein Manifesto excuse me.
And it was in nineteen fifty five. Einstein had already
died and Bertrand Russell he took their last manifesto that
they wrote together, and it was all about pleading with
people and governments to make peace because we would never
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survive World War three. And that was nineteen fifty five,
So that was sort of his deathbed wish. And from
the other side, his message is clear. Not only is
his message clear, but all the work that we've done
with him and what we have to offer the world
as far as inspiration is really coming of age. And
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that's one thing I've learned.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
In the past year.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh I noticed the theapprin Einstein a picture behind you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, there he is. Oh yeah, Diane Maun she painted that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
It's beautiful. I usually tried it, not like.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Hey, go ahead, you go now with the word piece tour.
Where were some of the places on that you went?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I started out in Duluth, Minnesota. I have I'm a
belonged to a Spiritualist church in Duluth, Minnesota, on the
shores of Lake Superior. I live in Lake Superior by
the way, and and I went down through Minneapolis. I
had some classes and some speaking engagements there. I went
on to Madison, and then I made my way down
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to Georgia, actually where I have what I call the
it's the Winter Camp, the Winter Palace. In the summer,
I'm up in northern Wisconsin, and then down to Georgia.
And from there I went to the UK and I
actually for about three months, I pet sit my way
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across the UK.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I joined a website.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Called Trusted House Sitters, and I apply to sit and
mostly it's for animals, and I had probably eight different
sits with God, I can't tell you how many dogs
and cats I looked after, and the little towns that
I saw, and the people that I got to talk
to along the way. About this, If you've never been
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to the UK, my advice is, don't bring many clothes
much clothing, because there are so many incredible thrift stores
all in every single tiny little town in the UK
had five of them with just amazing clothing for really
cheap persons.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So I got to talk to people even if.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I wasn't teaching a class or doing an inspirational speaking
or whatever, just about you know, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Well, first of all, dog sitting your way across the
UK is kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
But then to follow up by saying, I'm on this
peace tour and I'm trying to inspire people to understand
that we have to start here first, and I have
this process in case you're interested in you need a
way to get weigh in there, but otherwise, you know,
do it yourself whatever way that you can to understand
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the piece has to start here with a really deep
scrutiny of who we are and what we're doing, what
we're choosing, how we're relating to the world.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And so it was really.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Fascinating and and what was the purpose of this whole
peace tour.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It's to raise awareness and consciousness.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Is to get the word out there about the work
that I've been doing with Einstein for thirty years. It's
such an outlandish story sort of, and it's never stopped
me from pursuing the actual work because I don't do
this work to make money, and I don't do this
work to be famous. I do this work because I'm
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dedicated to this relationship that I have to Albert Einstein
in afterlife and the brilliance of what's happened. And thank
god I have associates that psychic sorority who have been
with me from the star to have witnessed it all
to know that I'm not making this.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
This is what's really happened.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And now after thirty years, I think in nineteen ninety
three is when I started channeling this information. And back
then they said there will come a time, Well, the
world will want what you have, and so leave this
pay portrayal, do this work, and there's going to come
a time in the future. And sure enough, it's starting
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a year ago, you know, and you helped kick me
off the tour. I've talked to probably seventy five podcasters
all over the world. They're coming in daily, Vietnam, I
on on Friday, and all over the.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
UK, but on the piece tour around the UK.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The other thing is that I think animals are so
important to humans, any kind of animals. I live in
a really wild area where deer and beer run through
my backyard, so animals are important, but dogs and cats
are sort of the extension for people to be able
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to have that kind of relationship to you know, squirrels
aren't eating on your step and elcher coming through your backyard.
You have a dog, you have a cat, So to
be able to get to know people and know them
through their animals, and it just was that part.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
There were so many years of what happened.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
But I also got to march in a Julian massage
support when his appeal in February in London. I happened
to be in London and had an incredible time being
I'm also an activist.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So that was very important to me.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I got to Paris, I got my book in the
hands of Deepak Chopra, Mattiana's Desmond David Ike, and I
spoke at the Science of Consciousness Convention in Tucson, Arizona,
last April to a whole bunch of left left left
brain physicists. We've been looking for the roots of consciousness
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for thirty years, and I was surprised they invited me
to come and have a little tiny speak. But I
was really excited and scared because you know what, if
I'm just making.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
This whole.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Making this whole day up but long and the short
of it, No, I came away more condensed than ever
to continue on raising this awareness because we all have
to do it. Look at what our world, what's happening.
We got to do something, start with ourselves.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now, you mentioned about about the animals like the deers
and the bears. T you think that that they need
to be protected from getting killed or what's your opinion
on that?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Well, I certainly do come from background here in northern
Wisconsin that is very indigenous. It's the Anisian Abbe, and
I live on an island that is considered to be
It's like the Jerusalem of the Initian Abe that has
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been taken over by us.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Just the way you know.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
But because of that and that their treaty rights, I
have paid tension to what my responsibilities are, and one
is to know their story and their creation story is
basically I'm not going to pretend to be like any
kind of expert on treaty rights or inner Sabba, but
it's basically that the first man was drowning and the
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turtle went down to save him and brought him up
and said, here, we've saved you. Now your promise to
us is that you have to take care of us now.
So that's their whole mentality, whether you like it or not,
you know, believe it or not. I happen to now
to see that. Yeah, we've been put here to be
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to work together symbiotically, but we've lost our way so
much in this nuclear age era, and people live so
outside of nature that it's almost forgotten.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Do think animals understand humans and what they say?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I think there's definitely a very deep communication between animals
and humans. How it relates to our intelligence, Like, you know,
you and I can sit here and.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Talk words and program.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Stuff, but theirs is more. It's not intuition, it's instinct.
They have an instinct that isn't clouded by a conscious thinking.
But I can tell you that when I go out
in my backyard and the deer are gathering and I
cut up these apples that I really literally okay, the
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deer are coming, and I literally have to hold my
hand out and look the other way.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And think like really.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Warm, fuzzy, loving thoughts, and then she'll come up and
start taking the stuff. So that's communication as opposed to
you know, I go here runs off. So yeah, I
we absolutely anything well, and we're all one anyway, you know,
we're all one big organism.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So oh yeah, now I've seen.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I seen on your Facebook that you appeared on the
on the Tuck groups. Yes, what was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It was so awesome for so many reasons, are you?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
People either love or hate him. Okay, I don't care.
I love him, and uh, I don't agree with everything
he says.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But I think anyway back, you know, when he got
he got fired.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Because technically people say because he lied about something. He
got fired from Fox because he was telling the truth
about the voting machines. And since that time, and he
went independent, and I immediately signed up because I thought,
this guy is telling the truth. He's really anti war,
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really every ounce of his being. So I'm going to
support him.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And I wrote him a letter in last December just
because I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I don't know how I was going to get it
to him, but I wanted to write him about my election,
integriy experience, what I experienced in Wisconsin politically in twenty eleven,
what happened with all of that. So I wrote this
long letter and weaving in of course conflict revolution that
you want to know this story about Einstein Tucker. You
want to know it because it's true and it's wild,
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and you can be a big impact.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So I looked up his.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Address on the internet and there was an Architectural Digest
article about how he bought the house next door to
him in Florida, and here it is and you can
there was the address. So I sent it off and
I had this intention, I'm going to talk to Tucker,
going to talk to Tucker, going to talk to Tucker,
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and I sometimes I dream about it because he's so affable,
you know, to me, he's just like you're talking to
your stupid little brother, you know, who's really smart.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
We'm smart and cares.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
And so I was doing this affirmation affirmation and when
I was in Bucharest before I came back to the
United States, I did a reading for myself and my
associate and they said, when you get home, things will
start to break open for you to get this message
to a bigger level. That's our intention. We want to
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get it worldwide, you know, top of the world.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
And so all right, so I went.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I drove from Georgia to Tucson to Colorado. I'm in
all over the United States after Europe, and I get
to Madison and the network, Tucker's Network puts out this invitation,
ask Tucker, do you have a question you want to
ask Tucker. Tucker had been doing reading of the questions
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you could write in, and he'd read your question, but
he wanted to elevate it to a video format and
actually have interaction with the people who were asking the question.
So right away I wrote, I did a little video
saying do you I know you believe in afterlife, but
do you think you can communicate with those who have
passed on?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And right away the next day I got the letter
back that I was chosen.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
And so right away those months of intention, whether whatever
it would have been right Tucker, whatever, that it manifest
was my first sucking in thought, and then that I
was actually going to get to sit with Tucker for
five minutes and have a conversation with him about conflict,
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revolution and this. So the day came and there were
five of us out nine hundred. I got picked and
one by one, you know, they let us into his
room and right away he's just like you know, you
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walk in a room and it's.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Like hey, He's like yes, and he loves the idea
of Melon Island.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I'm living the life, his dream life of island for
four hundred people. And then we got into the conversation.
I said, considering that Jesus rose from the dead and
went back and talked to his loved ones, do you
believe in afterlife?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
And if you do, do you think we can communicate
with those who have passed on?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And it was a mind blowing conversation that I've transcribed
and you can watch it if you're a part of
his network. But I transcribed it and I got off
of it and I was shaking, not only because he's
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He's Tucker. He is who he is. He's really authentic.
Like him or hate him, he really is.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Who he is.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Now, did you ever think and that you'd be doing
all of this? Did you ever think kind of growing
up and that you would be on the show with
Ticker Carson, I'm doing a world piece tour. Did that
ever cross your mind?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
When he was coming up in life?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Hold on just a second, I need to I need
to cough. I'm looking for my mute.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
All right, Sorry, it's all right.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Excuse me, I'm coming off of a little bit of
a fluke.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm going to tell you that when I was little,
the only thing I wanted to do was be a
rock star. Ever, however, when I was young, and I
used to have the hair brush in the basement, and
we had a little fireplace with a kind of a
little mantle piece, a little step that served as a
little stage.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
For me with my hair brush microphone, and I would
be singing, Ah, You'll never walk alone.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
It's a big dramatic piece, and I would imagine this
was my this was my fantasy that I was General
MacArthur's daughter, General MacArthur from World War Two, maybe, and
I was being flown in behind the lines to bring
my international singing sensation voice, singing You'll never walk alone,
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and then inspire all the troops to stand up and fight, fight, fight.
So if that was a metaphor for something perhaps different
than because I never did make it to rock stardom,
thank god. But yeah, I never thought and talk about
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Tucker in twenty eleven. I was a pretty leftist, activist
journalist in Wisconsin. Did great things, don't get me wrong,
did great things. But Tucker Carlson was awful. He was insidious,
he was evil, he was so to see both of
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our change to the point where no, I feel like
he's my little brother.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Now, how you wrote, Tucker about the voter machines, and
what was your thoughts on the voter machines if you
want to get into that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I'd love to.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
You know, I didn't have anything to do with politics
or any of that.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I was living the high.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Life, flying to Europe three times a winter to teach
and train conflict revolution, to channel Einstein, to do reading.
I could do more readings than I could do until
I passed out and I came back. I was living
in Compus Christie in the winter and Medelan Island in
the summer, driving between the two. It was the life.
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And I ended up in Madison in twenty eleven just teaching.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Didn't want to be there.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
It was winter. I didn't want to go back to
winter ever again. And that's when the uprising began, really
the political uprising at the Capitol, and it was the
actually the start of the occupy movement, if you remember that.
But I got caught up in the politics of it,
and I witnessed firsthand because I happened to be there
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when all of the protesting and all of the actions
started to take place, and I got sucked right into it,
and it's a long political story that I think should
be told at some point.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Too long to tell right now.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
But in that there was a fight to take out
the teachers unions and the Democrats left the state because
the Republicans brought in this horrible budget bill written by
a corporation called ALEC, the ALEC American Legislation American Legislative
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Exchange Council twenty level.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
We didn't even know what it was.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
It was corporations and mostly Republicans writing bills that they
would pass off as their own that gave the corporations
all the control, and they bring them into the state houses.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
And try and pass them.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So there was a whole lot of stuff that went
on with this. But at one point there was an
important Supreme Court election Joanne Kloppenberg, the leftist versus David Prosser,
the Republican who was rigging stuff, and she won until
two days later the Republican in Waukeshaw found fourteen thousand
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votes in a closet Reprosser, and because they found there's
a margin of how many votes you've lost by that
determines if the state is going to pay for the recount,
and she was in that margin. She should have made
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up that they found like twenty thousand votes, but it
put it in this margin. So there was a state
funded recount, and I volunteered. I was newly here to
help save us from this corporate taco of our rubber government.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
So I went to the recount.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I sat in Franklin County recount, two clerks, me and
a Republican guy.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
They had everything right, They.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Had the poll books, they had the absentee ballots, they
had the absentee ballot envelopes. They had everything, and they
counted right in front of us while he and I
battered about, you know, left as rights, and it was beautiful.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Everything was sealed signed. Then I go to Waukeshaw and.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
They've got yellow police tape surrounding the people who are counting,
so you can't even get near them. And the ballot
bags are over there, and the absentee ballots are over there.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
And when they're through counting.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Some of these whatever they are, they throw them in
a box and who knows where they go.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
It was mortifying.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I don't think I would have known had I not
been at Franklin County.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And while I was at that recount standing behind the
yellow tape. Out came a poll tape. It's like the
at the end of the night when you count the ballots,
all the officials have to sign it. And it was
dated all their signatures March nine, one point in the morning.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
For an April fifth election.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
And so that was the beginning of the end of
my life, because once you see that, you just can
never not see it again. And then what to do
about it, especially if you're sort of you know, this
Joan of Arc type of you know, General MacArthur's daughter.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I'm gonna come and say the world what I do.
And I fell down that rabbit hole of.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Election integrity in twenty eleven. And what I didn't know
was that every election integrity activist in the country was
watching the live stream of that.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
They saw me, All of them saw me. I didn't
even know it was being live stream.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Take this, and so they all reached out to me,
and I got to meet every one of them. Brad Friedman,
Bob Fittraucus is a lawyer in Ohio. He's amazing, Bev Harris,
Jeanie Dean and I got into this education about elections
and a deep dive into the history of these machines.
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This is twenty eleven, so it's long before Tucker got
fired for saying whenever he said, it's like, you can
never see what goes on in those machines because proprietary software.
That's the bottom line. You don't have to say anything else.
You don't have to say you didn't recount and you
proved it. You cannot ever see the results.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I'm sorry. That doesn't kind for me elections.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So we can eliminate a lot of conversation back and
forth if we can all just realize that's the truth
and we have to just do away with this. Now,
there's other election problems, mind you, now this ballad harvesting
that's been going on, but there's also the laggest cutting
edge you'll love this election integrity is a guy named
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jo Van.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Pullitzer.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
He's this brilliant, brilliant inventor and he invented this AI
system to monitor election results through looking at things like
the color of the ink, the size of the paper,
was it a real signature, was it not a real sincter,
what was the paper made out of?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
It?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Just all kinds of really detailed parts about the actual
ballads themselves that that blows my mind a lot too.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But anyway, I just think we all need to understand
that election. You just can never know.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now. And what was your opinion on the twenty twenty election.
Do you think that that was rigged or what?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I I okay, so oh great, I love this conversation. Well,
it's one of my expertises that I don't get to
talk about a lot because people get upset. Because in
twenty sixteen, as an investigative journalist who was clearly a Democrat.
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I have been a Democrat my whole life. Paul Elstone,
Russ Gold, whatever his name is, I can't remember. And
then Bernie and so I did an expos about Bernie
versus Hillary and how they affected the water because that
was my issue. I'm a water protector. I've been to
(32:35):
jailed for protecting water. Bernie was like you would expect.
He he helped to make sure things were okay in
his like when he started out as mayor, and he
did some other.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Things, but he didn't have any big ties to big oil.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I couldn't find any of that really deep ties that
he might have to that. Her, on the other hand,
was mortifying everywhere that I looked, there was this mortifying,
you know, combination of Hillary Clinton and the resource extraction
and nepotism and profitability and and really just downright.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, how can I say it? When I went to.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Standing Rock, Okay, Standing Rock was an indigenous stand to
protect the water in South Dakota, we heard that Obama
had granted us something, right, that was staying something, and
(33:47):
there's this big celebration. But all the while they're out,
Hillary Clinton is in Romania threatening to arrest the indigenous
people of Romania for trying to protect their sacred mountains
from Exxon coming in and fracking them to death. And
(34:08):
she's actually doing to those people in Romania what the
enemies in the United States were doing to me for
trying to protect the water.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
So I reported it and tried.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
To investigate her and found the money laundering right away.
Just go to the FBC site that came into Minnesota
or excuse me, Wisconsin, seven hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It didn't even wait.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
One day to go out, It just turned around, went
out the next day to the DNC, and so.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I reported, I report the truth.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
This is the truth. I'm not making it up. I'm
not trying to kill her or hurt her. It's like,
this is what's going on. And people were horrible. Democrats
were horrible to me, you're a troll, you're trolling, or
you're trying.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
To take her to.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Oh so I saw the Democrats do absolutely everything. I
watched the Republicans do when they stole the election in
twenty eleven in Wisconsin. I watched them seal it twenty
eleven in Wisconsin. Watched the Democrats do the same thing.
Then they get caught and they go to the to
(35:22):
court and the court says, yes, you did actually do that,
but you're a private corporation, so we can't say anything
about it. Oh so they did steal election. Then russia
Gate begins and those of us who are hypnotized by
this are looking into Russiagate, like, are you kidding me?
(35:46):
And so when twenty twenty came after they kicked Bernie
out and they said, you know, double fingers to us
who voted for him in Wisconsin ninety five percent of
us and Wisconsin voted for her, the electorates all decided
to just say, sorry, what is that?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
How could anybody go back to that? I don't know,
but I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
So twenty twenty came and I watched them suppress the
laptop story.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Now in retrospect with.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
The Twitter files, we know the suppression, the censorship that
went on very targetedly to the conservatives. And I'm not
even conservative, but this. I have a lot of great
conservative friends who I'm outraged. I'm gonna stand up for
them because this is wrong. And then we had to
(36:41):
listen to the big lie for you know, since yeah,
Trump lied, Trump lied, and all the J six malarkey,
it's gotten so out of hand to the point where,
again I'm not a huge Trump fan, but that man
has shown us because he is a billionaire, right, He's
(37:05):
a billionaire, so he can do it, and for some reason,
he's got balls of steel, you know, I mean, And
I listened to him last night, and frankly, I was
mortified by his energy policies.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
However, he's really authentic.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He he is what he is, and he's not going
to pretend to be anything else, and I can trust
that in him. So I do think very much that
one of the reasons why Clinton was so outraged in
twenty sixteen that she lost.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Was because she probably alleged.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
My opinion, had it rigged, God, it rigged, ready to rigg.
And that's why I think Kamala doesn't have to even
come out and talk. Yeah, they got the rig going on,
they know they have the rig going on. And I
watched this in twenty eleven with the Republicans.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
They did the same thing.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
They never They were rude and mean and they didn't
have to do anything and they just knew they.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Had it all sewn up and aren't stayed.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
And it's still sort of true today. The Republicans have
come back down to earth a bit since those days, But.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't know. That's my opinion.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
And if you listen to Joe van Pulitzer and you're
into anything like you want to see, he says, there's
one way to do it is that you order an
absentee ballad and you get it.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
And on election day.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You take it with you to the police station. And
if you go to the say I'm here to vote.
And if they say, oh, sorry, we have your absentee.
You voted absentee already and you have your absentee valid
in your hand. Now, you don't say fraud, he says,
(39:13):
you say identity theft. Yeah, so that that kind of
thing is interesting to me. But what drives me crazy
is people who think they know anything about about voting
in elections.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
It's all fair, it's all this is all the best.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Like, what was your opinion? Oh and there wasn't a
assassination temp on Donald Trump back in July.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I I just it's one of those jaw dropping moments where.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
You think about what what was intended to happen, which
I do believe, it's my opinion that was intended to happen,
and that it didn't and that and then that he
responded in that way, and that the people around him
(40:16):
responded in that way, that nobody stampeded off or ran
off screaming. Everybody kind of was like, really concerned about
each other. And then to watch what mainstream media has
done to such a deplorable and mind boggling event, I mean,
(40:43):
does any did They hardly even talk about it anymore.
I mean I listen to people who are constantly updating
other But but that he turned his head, whether you
like it or not, it gives you hope.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Oh yeah, you know, whether you even hate.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Him, Yeah, it still has to give you hope.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Absolutely. Before we went, uh before you went live or recorded? O,
would you say that you had an Elvis story?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I do, Okay, So Elvis.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
When I was first working on my book Party of twelve,
the Afterlife Interviews, it came about because of this interview
I did with Princess Die from Beyond the Grave on
the one year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Of her death.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
And my agent and I had made this big list
of people dead, people who we wanted it if they
would want to talk, you know, Gandhi, Mother, Teresa, and Elvis,
and Elvis said no, he'd been getting in too much
trouble already and.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
He was just kind of hung around me.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
And my then husband was flying through business on Nashville
any one time, and.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
He got me this Elvis hat as Elvis had.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
So my husband and I are going to get married
in Hawaii. We don't know that yet, and we go
to Kauai quite magically, and I bring my Elvis had.
Everywhere I go, people go have you seen it? I'm like, well,
you know, I talked to people, so kind of see,
you know whatever, and and so long story short, I
(42:46):
end up at the end of the island. It's where
we're going to get married. But it's this woman's private home.
And she says, it's the It was where Pele the
goddess uh, the Indonesian goddess, she used to have her
her bedroom. That was how she described her estate. And
I went out there to talk about my work channeling.
(43:08):
I came in and Teresa was missed me and I
had my al hat on and she goes, did you
see him?
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Why are people asking me? Did I see him? And
he said, well because the uh.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Now, let me hold this picture here to insert the
night before I went in the middle of the night,
I had this vision of this light streaming in my
window with these little twinkly lights on the side, and
these sort of two Hawaiian warriors came out of my closet.
I'm on Kawhi right and stand at the end of
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the bed and it's one of those things where I've
never had anything like it since or before. And it
was there for a minute, and then I woke up
again and everything was dark in that lights went by
the window from a head car whatever, and I thought.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
What the heck was that?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Okay, so I'm out at Beverly's. I said, why does
everybody say almost She said, well, some years ago, there
was an incident on Kawhi where everybody all over the
island was witnessing this really bright light with little twinkly
lights on the side, coming out of the water and
(44:26):
moving up the island, and you could hear it on
the police scanners. She said, I went out there and
I thought there was kids playing on my beach, and
I see this right, lights lights moving up my and so.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Nobody knew what to make of that.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
And there was a woman who lived down the road
and she was really astral and if you believed her,
it was fascinating. If you didn't, she was great, you know,
dinner party, bought or whatever. And she said that this
was the spirit of Elvis, who had come back to
Kawi to wait, because Kauhi was the first worldwide transmission
(45:13):
of Elvis. Life from Kauhi was like the first broadcast
of anything around the world. So he had come back
to wait to give his because he was on a
peace mission. He was very much into peace and angels
and spiritual stuff in his own however he did it.
(45:35):
He was waiting to pass this on to the next
person who was going to take this peace mission forward.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
So that's what she told me after the night before I.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Had this vision and I went all pale and good
thing Theresa was there because she knew the whole thing,
and I said, well, that might be me, and I
told her my vision and she said, oh, those warriors
are meant to escort you down into the sacred valley
(46:09):
of Creation as the one And honestly, really, I mean
that's I had to like be skeptical about all this,
just to be sane about it. Years later now I think, nope. Anyway,
so we end up getting married and we go on
(46:30):
this this helicopter ride on our honeymoon and I get
in the back of the helicopter and Dave's waiting and
I've got my little teddy bear and he's dressed up.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Like Elmos and.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
The driver gets in the air. The pilot you know,
puts the thing on. It puts the thing on, and
he turns around. I go it does he not look
exactly like.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, And he gave me that little So that my story.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
So that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Before we wrap up the podcast, can you tell people
where they can find you on the Internet?
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Yes, www, Barbara with dot com b A R B
A R A W I T h or you could
go to Synergy Alliance dot l l C. Synergy Alliance
is my publishing company. I'm on Facebook probably like an
old grandma. You know. It's Instagram is too short, but
(47:42):
I'm there too when I'm on X and Facebook's probably
the place to see me.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Before I wrap up the podcast today, and you got
a close and thought for the people listening to the episode.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Oh, you know what, we covered a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
So I think just keep breathing because these are extraordinary
times we're in and I think we have a whole
lot more power than we give ourselves credit for. But
we need to keep cultivating open, critical thinking, seeking for
the truth, and and hearts that reach out to each other,
(48:19):
that form community, and then to really open our eyes
and to the to what's really going on and take
some deep breast and intend to be the change.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Absolutely absolutely, well, well, I won't think you hell, oh
I don't thank you for coming back on the podcast,
oh which I had a good time.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yeah, thanks, that was a great conversation. Thanks for going there.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Oh yeah, absolutely all right. That wraps up District of
Conversations with Jacob Tunia next week for another interview. Until then,
on God bless and we'll see you guys next Monday.
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
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Speaker 3 (02:49):
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Speaker 2 (03:15):
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And and of course the update I want to give
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with the audio sites because I'm having to upload two
different files to YouTube and then to the audio site.
(03:37):
It gets frustrated at some time. So in twenty twenty five,
the audio sites are going away and I'm sticking with YouTube.
Uh so, And that wraps up the announcements. The podcast
puts it also next week and John Oltson joins me
next week to talk about ghosts and glitches and UFOs
(03:58):
and so much more. That's next week. I think it's
next week, and we'll see. And my guest this week
is Barbara with and she last appeared on the podcast
on July thirty first, twenty and twenty three, and now
she appears today on episode number ninety two, and she
(04:18):
was on episode twenty one I don't know if I
said that or not today, but today we're gonna talk
about her, about her World Peace Tour and so much more.
And so Barbara and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Hey, Jacob, thanks for having me. How are you today?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh it's I'm doing pretty good. Oh it's I want
to thank you for coming back on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Hey, my pleasure.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
When you said that date, I thought that was right
about the start of when I was announcing and doing
my podcasts to talk about my World Peace tour.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Now it's been a year over a year.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Absolutely. Now for people that did not watch the first
time he was on the podcast, can you give us
a little back Gunn who you are?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yes, absolutely, I am many things, but I'm an author
and I'm also a psychic channel. And that whole story
is a long story. It's very interesting, but we did it.
I think on the first podcast they can go back
to twenty one was that. But I have been working
with a group called the Party and it's headed up
(05:23):
by Albert Einstein. And this is decades of work, decades
of unfolding and the bottom line of what would Albert
Einstein want to tell us from.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Beyond the grave?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Is he brought us a revolutionary way to resolve conflict
first within ourselves, and then he also brought forth from
the afterlife through me and my channeling, a unified field
theory with what he calls a map of human consciousness
and a definition of compassion. He uses a capital ce,
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compassion as the fifth fundamental force of the universe. And
so that has led me in this time in my life.
After thirty years of doing this work, the research of
going into what we call conflict revolution, and I have
five books, many awards, I decided I would set out
(06:24):
in this day and age. It was twenty twenty three
and things weren't looking so good out there for many
parts of the world, and I would go on a
world peace tour. And what that meant was just sort
of what now, I'm not a Christian, but kind of
what I think Jesus did.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
He just got up in a day.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And he went out with this intention that he was
going to facilitate this change in the world by being
sort of the divine representation of what humanity can be
and hoping to inspire people. And so that's what I did.
So you were one of the first people started out
on July ninth, because that is the anniversary of what
(07:05):
is called the Bertrand Russell Manifesto Russell Einstein Manifesto excuse me.
And it was in nineteen fifty five. Einstein had already
died and Bertrand Russell he took their last manifesto that
they wrote together, and it was all about pleading with
people and governments to make peace because we would never
(07:29):
survive World War three. And that was nineteen fifty five,
So that was sort of his deathbed wish. And from
the other side, his message is clear. Not only is
his message clear, but all the work that we've done
with him and what we have to offer the world
as far as inspiration is really coming of age. And
(07:50):
that's one thing I've learned.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
In the past year.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh I noticed the theapprin Einstein a picture behind you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, there he is. Oh yeah, Diane Maun she painted that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
It's beautiful. I usually tried it, not like.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Hey, go ahead, you go now with the word piece tour.
Where were some of the places on that you went?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I started out in Duluth, Minnesota. I have I'm a
belonged to a Spiritualist church in Duluth, Minnesota, on the
shores of Lake Superior. I live in Lake Superior by
the way, and and I went down through Minneapolis. I
had some classes and some speaking engagements there. I went
on to Madison, and then I made my way down
(08:45):
to Georgia, actually where I have what I call the
it's the Winter Camp, the Winter Palace. In the summer,
I'm up in northern Wisconsin, and then down to Georgia.
And from there I went to the UK and I
actually for about three months, I pet sit my way
(09:12):
across the UK.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I joined a website.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Called Trusted House Sitters, and I apply to sit and
mostly it's for animals, and I had probably eight different
sits with God, I can't tell you how many dogs
and cats I looked after, and the little towns that
I saw, and the people that I got to talk
to along the way. About this, If you've never been
(09:39):
to the UK, my advice is, don't bring many clothes
much clothing, because there are so many incredible thrift stores
all in every single tiny little town in the UK
had five of them with just amazing clothing for really
cheap persons.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So I got to talk to people even if.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I wasn't teaching a class or doing an inspirational speaking
or whatever, just about you know, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Well, first of all, dog sitting your way across the
UK is kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
But then to follow up by saying, I'm on this
peace tour and I'm trying to inspire people to understand
that we have to start here first, and I have
this process in case you're interested in you need a
way to get weigh in there, but otherwise, you know,
do it yourself whatever way that you can to understand
(10:32):
the piece has to start here with a really deep
scrutiny of who we are and what we're doing, what
we're choosing, how we're relating to the world.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And so it was really.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Fascinating and and what was the purpose of this whole
peace tour.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It's to raise awareness and consciousness.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Is to get the word out there about the work
that I've been doing with Einstein for thirty years. It's
such an outlandish story sort of, and it's never stopped
me from pursuing the actual work because I don't do
this work to make money, and I don't do this
work to be famous. I do this work because I'm
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dedicated to this relationship that I have to Albert Einstein
in afterlife and the brilliance of what's happened. And thank
god I have associates that psychic sorority who have been
with me from the star to have witnessed it all
to know that I'm not making this.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
This is what's really happened.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And now after thirty years, I think in nineteen ninety
three is when I started channeling this information. And back
then they said there will come a time, Well, the
world will want what you have, and so leave this
pay portrayal, do this work, and there's going to come
a time in the future. And sure enough, it's starting
(12:00):
a year ago, you know, and you helped kick me
off the tour. I've talked to probably seventy five podcasters
all over the world. They're coming in daily, Vietnam, I
on on Friday, and all over the.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
UK, but on the piece tour around the UK.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The other thing is that I think animals are so
important to humans, any kind of animals. I live in
a really wild area where deer and beer run through
my backyard, so animals are important, but dogs and cats
are sort of the extension for people to be able
(12:41):
to have that kind of relationship to you know, squirrels
aren't eating on your step and elcher coming through your backyard.
You have a dog, you have a cat, So to
be able to get to know people and know them
through their animals, and it just was that part.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
There were so many years of what happened.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
But I also got to march in a Julian massage
support when his appeal in February in London. I happened
to be in London and had an incredible time being
I'm also an activist.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So that was very important to me.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I got to Paris, I got my book in the
hands of Deepak Chopra, Mattiana's Desmond David Ike, and I
spoke at the Science of Consciousness Convention in Tucson, Arizona,
last April to a whole bunch of left left left
brain physicists. We've been looking for the roots of consciousness
(13:41):
for thirty years, and I was surprised they invited me
to come and have a little tiny speak. But I
was really excited and scared because you know what, if
I'm just making.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
This whole.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Making this whole day up but long and the short
of it, No, I came away more condensed than ever
to continue on raising this awareness because we all have
to do it. Look at what our world, what's happening.
We got to do something, start with ourselves.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now, you mentioned about about the animals like the deers
and the bears. T you think that that they need
to be protected from getting killed or what's your opinion
on that?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Well, I certainly do come from background here in northern
Wisconsin that is very indigenous. It's the Anisian Abbe, and
I live on an island that is considered to be
It's like the Jerusalem of the Initian Abe that has
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been taken over by us.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Just the way you know.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
But because of that and that their treaty rights, I
have paid tension to what my responsibilities are, and one
is to know their story and their creation story is
basically I'm not going to pretend to be like any
kind of expert on treaty rights or inner Sabba, but
it's basically that the first man was drowning and the
(15:19):
turtle went down to save him and brought him up
and said, here, we've saved you. Now your promise to
us is that you have to take care of us now.
So that's their whole mentality, whether you like it or not,
you know, believe it or not. I happen to now
to see that. Yeah, we've been put here to be
(15:42):
to work together symbiotically, but we've lost our way so
much in this nuclear age era, and people live so
outside of nature that it's almost forgotten.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Do think animals understand humans and what they say?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I think there's definitely a very deep communication between animals
and humans. How it relates to our intelligence, Like, you know,
you and I can sit here and.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Talk words and program.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Stuff, but theirs is more. It's not intuition, it's instinct.
They have an instinct that isn't clouded by a conscious thinking.
But I can tell you that when I go out
in my backyard and the deer are gathering and I
cut up these apples that I really literally okay, the
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deer are coming, and I literally have to hold my
hand out and look the other way.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And think like really.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Warm, fuzzy, loving thoughts, and then she'll come up and
start taking the stuff. So that's communication as opposed to
you know, I go here runs off. So yeah, I
we absolutely anything well, and we're all one anyway, you know,
we're all one big organism.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So oh yeah, now I've seen.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
It.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I seen on your Facebook that you appeared on the
on the Tuck groups. Yes, what was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It was so awesome for so many reasons, are you?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
People either love or hate him. Okay, I don't care.
I love him, and uh, I don't agree with everything
he says.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But I think anyway back, you know, when he got
he got fired.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Because technically people say because he lied about something. He
got fired from Fox because he was telling the truth
about the voting machines. And since that time, and he
went independent, and I immediately signed up because I thought,
this guy is telling the truth. He's really anti war,
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really every ounce of his being. So I'm going to
support him.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And I wrote him a letter in last December just
because I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I don't know how I was going to get it
to him, but I wanted to write him about my election,
integriy experience, what I experienced in Wisconsin politically in twenty eleven,
what happened with all of that. So I wrote this
long letter and weaving in of course conflict revolution that
you want to know this story about Einstein Tucker. You
want to know it because it's true and it's wild,
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and you can be a big impact.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So I looked up his.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Address on the internet and there was an Architectural Digest
article about how he bought the house next door to
him in Florida, and here it is and you can
there was the address. So I sent it off and
I had this intention, I'm going to talk to Tucker,
going to talk to Tucker, going to talk to Tucker,
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and I sometimes I dream about it because he's so affable,
you know, to me, he's just like you're talking to
your stupid little brother, you know, who's really smart.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
We'm smart and cares.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
And so I was doing this affirmation affirmation and when
I was in Bucharest before I came back to the
United States, I did a reading for myself and my
associate and they said, when you get home, things will
start to break open for you to get this message
to a bigger level. That's our intention. We want to
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get it worldwide, you know, top of the world.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
And so all right, so I went.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I drove from Georgia to Tucson to Colorado. I'm in
all over the United States after Europe, and I get
to Madison and the network, Tucker's Network puts out this invitation,
ask Tucker, do you have a question you want to
ask Tucker. Tucker had been doing reading of the questions
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you could write in, and he'd read your question, but
he wanted to elevate it to a video format and
actually have interaction with the people who were asking the question.
So right away I wrote, I did a little video
saying do you I know you believe in afterlife, but
do you think you can communicate with those who have
passed on?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And right away the next day I got the letter
back that I was chosen.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
And so right away those months of intention, whether whatever
it would have been right Tucker, whatever, that it manifest
was my first sucking in thought, and then that I
was actually going to get to sit with Tucker for
five minutes and have a conversation with him about conflict,
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revolution and this. So the day came and there were
five of us out nine hundred. I got picked and
one by one, you know, they let us into his
room and right away he's just like you know, you
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walk in a room and it's.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Like hey, He's like yes, and he loves the idea
of Melon Island.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I'm living the life, his dream life of island for
four hundred people. And then we got into the conversation.
I said, considering that Jesus rose from the dead and
went back and talked to his loved ones, do you
believe in afterlife?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
And if you do, do you think we can communicate
with those who have passed on?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And it was a mind blowing conversation that I've transcribed
and you can watch it if you're a part of
his network. But I transcribed it and I got off
of it and I was shaking, not only because he's
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He's Tucker. He is who he is. He's really authentic.
Like him or hate him, he really is.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Who he is.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Now, did you ever think and that you'd be doing
all of this? Did you ever think kind of growing
up and that you would be on the show with
Ticker Carson, I'm doing a world piece tour. Did that
ever cross your mind?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
When he was coming up in life?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Hold on just a second, I need to I need
to cough. I'm looking for my mute.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
All right, Sorry, it's all right.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Excuse me, I'm coming off of a little bit of
a fluke.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm going to tell you that when I was little,
the only thing I wanted to do was be a
rock star. Ever, however, when I was young, and I
used to have the hair brush in the basement, and
we had a little fireplace with a kind of a
little mantle piece, a little step that served as a
little stage.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
For me with my hair brush microphone, and I would
be singing, Ah, You'll never walk alone.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
It's a big dramatic piece, and I would imagine this
was my this was my fantasy that I was General
MacArthur's daughter, General MacArthur from World War Two, maybe, and
I was being flown in behind the lines to bring
my international singing sensation voice, singing You'll never walk alone,
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and then inspire all the troops to stand up and fight, fight, fight.
So if that was a metaphor for something perhaps different
than because I never did make it to rock stardom,
thank god. But yeah, I never thought and talk about
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Tucker in twenty eleven. I was a pretty leftist, activist
journalist in Wisconsin. Did great things, don't get me wrong,
did great things. But Tucker Carlson was awful. He was insidious,
he was evil, he was so to see both of
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our change to the point where no, I feel like
he's my little brother.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Now, how you wrote, Tucker about the voter machines, and
what was your thoughts on the voter machines if you
want to get into that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I'd love to.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
You know, I didn't have anything to do with politics
or any of that.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I was living the high.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Life, flying to Europe three times a winter to teach
and train conflict revolution, to channel Einstein, to do reading.
I could do more readings than I could do until
I passed out and I came back. I was living
in Compus Christie in the winter and Medelan Island in
the summer, driving between the two. It was the life.
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And I ended up in Madison in twenty eleven just teaching.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Didn't want to be there.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
It was winter. I didn't want to go back to
winter ever again. And that's when the uprising began, really
the political uprising at the Capitol, and it was the
actually the start of the occupy movement, if you remember that.
But I got caught up in the politics of it,
and I witnessed firsthand because I happened to be there
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when all of the protesting and all of the actions
started to take place, and I got sucked right into it,
and it's a long political story that I think should
be told at some point.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Too long to tell right now.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
But in that there was a fight to take out
the teachers unions and the Democrats left the state because
the Republicans brought in this horrible budget bill written by
a corporation called ALEC, the ALEC American Legislation American Legislative
(26:25):
Exchange Council twenty level.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
We didn't even know what it was.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
It was corporations and mostly Republicans writing bills that they
would pass off as their own that gave the corporations
all the control, and they bring them into the state houses.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
And try and pass them.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So there was a whole lot of stuff that went
on with this. But at one point there was an
important Supreme Court election Joanne Kloppenberg, the leftist versus David Prosser,
the Republican who was rigging stuff, and she won until
two days later the Republican in Waukeshaw found fourteen thousand
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votes in a closet Reprosser, and because they found there's
a margin of how many votes you've lost by that
determines if the state is going to pay for the recount,
and she was in that margin. She should have made
(27:25):
up that they found like twenty thousand votes, but it
put it in this margin. So there was a state
funded recount, and I volunteered. I was newly here to
help save us from this corporate taco of our rubber government.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
So I went to the recount.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I sat in Franklin County recount, two clerks, me and
a Republican guy.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
They had everything right, They.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Had the poll books, they had the absentee ballots, they
had the absentee ballot envelopes. They had everything, and they
counted right in front of us while he and I
battered about, you know, left as rights, and it was beautiful.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Everything was sealed signed. Then I go to Waukeshaw and.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
They've got yellow police tape surrounding the people who are counting,
so you can't even get near them. And the ballot
bags are over there, and the absentee ballots are over there.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
And when they're through counting.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Some of these whatever they are, they throw them in
a box and who knows where they go.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
It was mortifying.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I don't think I would have known had I not
been at Franklin County.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And while I was at that recount standing behind the
yellow tape. Out came a poll tape. It's like the
at the end of the night when you count the ballots,
all the officials have to sign it. And it was
dated all their signatures March nine, one point in the morning.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
For an April fifth election.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
And so that was the beginning of the end of
my life, because once you see that, you just can
never not see it again. And then what to do
about it, especially if you're sort of you know, this
Joan of Arc type of you know, General MacArthur's daughter.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I'm gonna come and say the world what I do.
And I fell down that rabbit hole of.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Election integrity in twenty eleven. And what I didn't know
was that every election integrity activist in the country was
watching the live stream of that.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
They saw me, All of them saw me. I didn't
even know it was being live stream.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Take this, and so they all reached out to me,
and I got to meet every one of them. Brad Friedman,
Bob Fittraucus is a lawyer in Ohio. He's amazing, Bev Harris,
Jeanie Dean and I got into this education about elections
and a deep dive into the history of these machines.
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This is twenty eleven, so it's long before Tucker got
fired for saying whenever he said, it's like, you can
never see what goes on in those machines because proprietary software.
That's the bottom line. You don't have to say anything else.
You don't have to say you didn't recount and you
proved it. You cannot ever see the results.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I'm sorry. That doesn't kind for me elections.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So we can eliminate a lot of conversation back and
forth if we can all just realize that's the truth
and we have to just do away with this. Now,
there's other election problems, mind you, now this ballad harvesting
that's been going on, but there's also the laggest cutting
edge you'll love this election integrity is a guy named
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jo Van.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Pullitzer.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
He's this brilliant, brilliant inventor and he invented this AI
system to monitor election results through looking at things like
the color of the ink, the size of the paper,
was it a real signature, was it not a real sincter,
what was the paper made out of?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
It?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Just all kinds of really detailed parts about the actual
ballads themselves that that blows my mind a lot too.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But anyway, I just think we all need to understand
that election. You just can never know.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Now. And what was your opinion on the twenty twenty election.
Do you think that that was rigged or what?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I I okay, so oh great, I love this conversation. Well,
it's one of my expertises that I don't get to
talk about a lot because people get upset. Because in
twenty sixteen, as an investigative journalist who was clearly a Democrat.
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I have been a Democrat my whole life. Paul Elstone,
Russ Gold, whatever his name is, I can't remember. And
then Bernie and so I did an expos about Bernie
versus Hillary and how they affected the water because that
was my issue. I'm a water protector. I've been to
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jailed for protecting water. Bernie was like you would expect.
He he helped to make sure things were okay in
his like when he started out as mayor, and he
did some other.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Things, but he didn't have any big ties to big oil.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I couldn't find any of that really deep ties that
he might have to that. Her, on the other hand,
was mortifying everywhere that I looked, there was this mortifying,
you know, combination of Hillary Clinton and the resource extraction
and nepotism and profitability and and really just downright.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, how can I say it? When I went to.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Standing Rock, Okay, Standing Rock was an indigenous stand to
protect the water in South Dakota, we heard that Obama
had granted us something, right, that was staying something, and
(33:47):
there's this big celebration. But all the while they're out,
Hillary Clinton is in Romania threatening to arrest the indigenous
people of Romania for trying to protect their sacred mountains
from Exxon coming in and fracking them to death. And
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she's actually doing to those people in Romania what the
enemies in the United States were doing to me for
trying to protect the water.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
So I reported it and tried.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
To investigate her and found the money laundering right away.
Just go to the FBC site that came into Minnesota
or excuse me, Wisconsin, seven hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It didn't even wait.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
One day to go out, It just turned around, went
out the next day to the DNC, and so.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I reported, I report the truth.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
This is the truth. I'm not making it up. I'm
not trying to kill her or hurt her. It's like,
this is what's going on. And people were horrible. Democrats
were horrible to me, you're a troll, you're trolling, or
you're trying.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
To take her to.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Oh so I saw the Democrats do absolutely everything. I
watched the Republicans do when they stole the election in
twenty eleven in Wisconsin. I watched them seal it twenty
eleven in Wisconsin. Watched the Democrats do the same thing.
Then they get caught and they go to the to
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court and the court says, yes, you did actually do that,
but you're a private corporation, so we can't say anything
about it. Oh so they did steal election. Then russia
Gate begins and those of us who are hypnotized by
this are looking into Russiagate, like, are you kidding me?
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And so when twenty twenty came after they kicked Bernie
out and they said, you know, double fingers to us
who voted for him in Wisconsin ninety five percent of
us and Wisconsin voted for her, the electorates all decided
to just say, sorry, what is that?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
How could anybody go back to that? I don't know,
but I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
So twenty twenty came and I watched them suppress the
laptop story.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Now in retrospect with.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
The Twitter files, we know the suppression, the censorship that
went on very targetedly to the conservatives. And I'm not
even conservative, but this. I have a lot of great
conservative friends who I'm outraged. I'm gonna stand up for
them because this is wrong. And then we had to
(36:41):
listen to the big lie for you know, since yeah,
Trump lied, Trump lied, and all the J six malarkey,
it's gotten so out of hand to the point where,
again I'm not a huge Trump fan, but that man
has shown us because he is a billionaire, right, He's
(37:05):
a billionaire, so he can do it, and for some reason,
he's got balls of steel, you know, I mean, And
I listened to him last night, and frankly, I was
mortified by his energy policies.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
However, he's really authentic.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He he is what he is, and he's not going
to pretend to be anything else, and I can trust
that in him. So I do think very much that
one of the reasons why Clinton was so outraged in
twenty sixteen that she lost.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Was because she probably alleged.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
My opinion, had it rigged, God, it rigged, ready to rigg.
And that's why I think Kamala doesn't have to even
come out and talk. Yeah, they got the rig going on,
they know they have the rig going on. And I
watched this in twenty eleven with the Republicans.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
They did the same thing.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
They never They were rude and mean and they didn't
have to do anything and they just knew they.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Had it all sewn up and aren't stayed.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
And it's still sort of true today. The Republicans have
come back down to earth a bit since those days, But.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't know. That's my opinion.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
And if you listen to Joe van Pulitzer and you're
into anything like you want to see, he says, there's
one way to do it is that you order an
absentee ballad and you get it.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
And on election day.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You take it with you to the police station. And
if you go to the say I'm here to vote.
And if they say, oh, sorry, we have your absentee.
You voted absentee already and you have your absentee valid
in your hand. Now, you don't say fraud, he says,
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you say identity theft. Yeah, so that that kind of
thing is interesting to me. But what drives me crazy
is people who think they know anything about about voting
in elections.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
It's all fair, it's all this is all the best.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Like, what was your opinion? Oh and there wasn't a
assassination temp on Donald Trump back in July.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I I just it's one of those jaw dropping moments where.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
You think about what what was intended to happen, which
I do believe, it's my opinion that was intended to happen,
and that it didn't and that and then that he
responded in that way, and that the people around him
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responded in that way, that nobody stampeded off or ran
off screaming. Everybody kind of was like, really concerned about
each other. And then to watch what mainstream media has
done to such a deplorable and mind boggling event, I mean,
(40:43):
does any did They hardly even talk about it anymore.
I mean I listen to people who are constantly updating
other But but that he turned his head, whether you
like it or not, it gives you hope.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Oh yeah, you know, whether you even hate.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Him, Yeah, it still has to give you hope.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Absolutely. Before we went, uh before you went live or recorded? O,
would you say that you had an Elvis story?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I do, Okay, So Elvis.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
When I was first working on my book Party of twelve,
the Afterlife Interviews, it came about because of this interview
I did with Princess Die from Beyond the Grave on
the one year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Of her death.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
And my agent and I had made this big list
of people dead, people who we wanted it if they
would want to talk, you know, Gandhi, Mother, Teresa, and Elvis,
and Elvis said no, he'd been getting in too much
trouble already and.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
He was just kind of hung around me.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
And my then husband was flying through business on Nashville
any one time, and.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
He got me this Elvis hat as Elvis had.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
So my husband and I are going to get married
in Hawaii. We don't know that yet, and we go
to Kauai quite magically, and I bring my Elvis had.
Everywhere I go, people go have you seen it? I'm like, well,
you know, I talked to people, so kind of see,
you know whatever, and and so long story short, I
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end up at the end of the island. It's where
we're going to get married. But it's this woman's private home.
And she says, it's the It was where Pele the
goddess uh, the Indonesian goddess, she used to have her
her bedroom. That was how she described her estate. And
I went out there to talk about my work channeling.
(43:08):
I came in and Teresa was missed me and I
had my al hat on and she goes, did you
see him?
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Why are people asking me? Did I see him? And
he said, well because the uh.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Now, let me hold this picture here to insert the
night before I went in the middle of the night,
I had this vision of this light streaming in my
window with these little twinkly lights on the side, and
these sort of two Hawaiian warriors came out of my closet.
I'm on Kawhi right and stand at the end of
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the bed and it's one of those things where I've
never had anything like it since or before. And it
was there for a minute, and then I woke up
again and everything was dark in that lights went by
the window from a head car whatever, and I thought.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
What the heck was that?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Okay, so I'm out at Beverly's. I said, why does
everybody say almost She said, well, some years ago, there
was an incident on Kawhi where everybody all over the
island was witnessing this really bright light with little twinkly
lights on the side, coming out of the water and
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moving up the island, and you could hear it on
the police scanners. She said, I went out there and
I thought there was kids playing on my beach, and
I see this right, lights lights moving up my and so.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Nobody knew what to make of that.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
And there was a woman who lived down the road
and she was really astral and if you believed her,
it was fascinating. If you didn't, she was great, you know,
dinner party, bought or whatever. And she said that this
was the spirit of Elvis, who had come back to
Kawi to wait, because Kauhi was the first worldwide transmission
(45:13):
of Elvis. Life from Kauhi was like the first broadcast
of anything around the world. So he had come back
to wait to give his because he was on a
peace mission. He was very much into peace and angels
and spiritual stuff in his own however he did it.
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He was waiting to pass this on to the next
person who was going to take this peace mission forward.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
So that's what she told me after the night before I.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Had this vision and I went all pale and good
thing Theresa was there because she knew the whole thing,
and I said, well, that might be me, and I
told her my vision and she said, oh, those warriors
are meant to escort you down into the sacred valley
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of Creation as the one And honestly, really, I mean
that's I had to like be skeptical about all this,
just to be sane about it. Years later now I think, nope. Anyway,
so we end up getting married and we go on
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this this helicopter ride on our honeymoon and I get
in the back of the helicopter and Dave's waiting and
I've got my little teddy bear and he's dressed up.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Like Elmos and.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
The driver gets in the air. The pilot you know,
puts the thing on. It puts the thing on, and
he turns around. I go it does he not look
exactly like.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, And he gave me that little So that my story.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
So that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Before we wrap up the podcast, can you tell people
where they can find you on the Internet?
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Yes, www, Barbara with dot com b A R B
A R A W I T h or you could
go to Synergy Alliance dot l l C. Synergy Alliance
is my publishing company. I'm on Facebook probably like an
old grandma. You know. It's Instagram is too short, but
(47:42):
I'm there too when I'm on X and Facebook's probably
the place to see me.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Before I wrap up the podcast today, and you got
a close and thought for the people listening to the episode.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Oh, you know what, we covered a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
So I think just keep breathing because these are extraordinary
times we're in and I think we have a whole
lot more power than we give ourselves credit for. But
we need to keep cultivating open, critical thinking, seeking for
the truth, and and hearts that reach out to each other,
(48:19):
that form community, and then to really open our eyes
and to the to what's really going on and take
some deep breast and intend to be the change.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Absolutely absolutely, well, well, I won't think you hell, oh
I don't thank you for coming back on the podcast,
oh which I had a good time.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yeah, thanks, that was a great conversation. Thanks for going there.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Oh yeah, absolutely all right. That wraps up District of
Conversations with Jacob Tunia next week for another interview. Until then,
on God bless and we'll see you guys next Monday.
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