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Listener Just Depression is advised.
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And good Sunday evening, Ladies and gentlemen, We are back
in Korn's reading room, hosted by none other than mister
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And here is the man, the mist, the legend right now.
How you doing, sir? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I'm doing very well. My I keep getting notifications that
I don't have the best connection this evening. But we're
gonna go for broke s I if everything works out
well for all of a couple of folks have joined us. Thanks, Thanks,
we're live tonight. I know I have been very sneaky
in my in my recording. You know, I've been very
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busy traveling the world doing the things, but we're here,
and I want to thank Rick and kaylor In Studios
for hosting Korn's reading room, and thank most Jackson for
his beautiful opening music that's so jazzy and cool and relaxed,
and we love that. We love being relaxed, don't we.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Telling me I'm going to figure out how to speak
into your luggage because you keep getting a travel everywhere
and I'm still sitting behind my desk.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So I've got lots of traveling coming up this year.
I'll be doing several conventions overseas, in one Paris Manga,
which is a very big show in Paris, and I'm
doing a very cool show over in Berkshire, England, which
people when I post, I keep getting people from England
saying it's Boksha. I'm like, well, it's b I r K,
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which I pronounced Burke. I don't know how you get
back from Burke, but I'm gonna just you know, I'm
not British, so I'm going to have to just say
they're right. What's up? Sisterly and Raptor and Alan Ray
Lovely to have y'all here and all of the others
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who are joining and stuff. And then what's up a web?
The universe of and webosphere out there we are. We're
still to this day, we are still on Philosophy of Fire,
and I have not wanted to give it up yet
because it's such an interesting book and we've gotten into
some really deep dives on it. I think we'll probably
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be able to finish it in a couple of more episodes.
But I have these other books on standby about the
Acasic Record that I'm dying to get into.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Dude, I'm actually I'm actually really looking forward to that one.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We Yeah, that's going to be rad a couple of
Let me close these blinds here, I'm getting that weird, uh,
weird reflection on me. There we go.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now, I just assumed you'd finally figure out how to
ascend and we're about to leave this hole.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, yes, that too, that's too. I'm hanging on by
a thread, by a silver thread. Everybody got their coffee.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That was a thinly veiled stargate reference for anybody who
didn't catch it.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yes, Yes, it is a good book. It is a
good book. Raptor, it's a fantastic book. If anybody hasn't
never gotten the or if you haven't looked into the
philosophy of fire yet. I'm sure you can probably find
something online, maybe even somebody reading it. I should probably
have done that. I could have I could have read
this thing three times over by now, right, But uh,
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it's a fantastic book. The the writer is Rosie Cruscian's Rosie.
It's kind of Rosie Cruscian philosophy. It's very interesting and
and we're going to dive in. Man.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Actually, if they would like to check it out, they
can simply scan the QR code on the screen right
now Thendle.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So wow, they can get a copy paperback for twelve
oh four two ninety nine on Kindle. That is a good.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Deal, especially because the hardcover is like expensive as heck.
I did find cheaper ones finally, but the first time
I tried to look that up, it was like almost
one hundred and fifty bucks for the hardcover. But that
was like some like second edition or something.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well, wait till wait till my when I well, my
son will get all these books. But when I pass away,
I've got all my notes and stuff in them from
when I read them, they'll be worth a fortune. I
mean have to put my name in these, so people
know who the hell the crazy guy is. It's writing
all over this nice book and go, what a what
a lunatic? But yeah, my son's my son's too eager
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to get my book collection. I'm like, hey, man, I mean, he.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Isn't that eager. He hasn't hired a house painter yet.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Uh. He probably figures he can paint it him self
save a buve.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, no, that's a it's a term from a show
I've been watching. Anytime they hire a hitman, They're like,
I need a house painter.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
This good stuff. Man. Well, I have it marked here
that we left off on page one eight, So I'm
going to assume that that's correct, and we'll we'll dive
in here on one twenty eight. And it says, as
all life should be a constant evolution to a higher
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scale of existence. So must all real knowledge or philosophical
science be an initiation preceding in a natural manner, advancing
by specific degrees of growth, unfoldment, and attainment, an all
true initiation, that of gradual growth or becoming. The acolyte
must always prove worthy and well qualified, duly and truly prepared,
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lest he fall by the wayside. That is to say,
he must perceive that the proclaimed knowledge does exist. He
must sincerely desire to possess it. He must possess it
and be perfectly willing to make every effort in whatever
personal sacrifice is necessary for its acquisition. He must have
passed beyond the stage of blind belief or superstition, the
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fear of bondage and dominion, of appetite and sensed desires.
This is the meaning of being duly and truly prepared.
He must also prove his fitness and show the absence
in himself of that more subtle form of intellectual selfishness.
Oh yeah, selfishness which comes from the possession of what
usually passes as knowledge, as also the desire for dominion
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over others less likely endowed for selfish purposes of his own.
His motives, therefore, alone, will determine whether he be worthy
and well qualified. It is undoubtedly true that on every
plane of life and in the process by which real
knowledge is acquired, always by experience, because man is that
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which he has been, which is because man is that
which he has experienced. And we've talked a lot about that,
uh that you know, we are what we've experienced, and
that that that for the most part until until we
uh we step outside of ourselves. For the most part,
we're kind of automatons in a sense that are just
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pre programmed by our life experiences, what we were taught,
how we grew up, the neighborhood, we grew up in,
what our parents were like, what type of uh uh
school we went to, our religious background and so on
and uh and that's all the information that we're given
to think with and to make sense out of reality with,
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you know, and my teacher Mono, who you know, I
wrote this book. I'm sure that I've announced it a
thousand times. But creating a character or for the stage
or life, the new era acting technique that was developed
by Monotupo at the American Repertory Company where I studied
for fifteen years. And you know, his whole entire point
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that he just constantly, constantly battered us with was was
was not being that that kind of automaton, not being
automatic in our approach to life and uh and and
ourselves and our personalities and and it doesn't mean that
that you don't have a personality or you don't or
you're not behaving uh with within this character that we've developed,
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but at least acknowledging that what we might we might
not be who we think we are. You know, and
I know it seems weird, but to be able to
consider that that that there's more potential for our personal experience,
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the more that we can shuck off all of the
old habits and routines and ways of thinking that we're
that that that we're stuck in. Factor all that with emotions,
and it's a cluster, says Cicily. Yes, that is true.
You know, the the emotions are one of the is
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that a lot of what we get triggered by today,
you know, it is emotional content. And you can see
how on the news especially they and and propaganda really
really deals a lot with emotion. They want to hit
you with the emotional messages because when our emotions hit
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and we feel that upwelling of of of sensation, that
becomes very real to us and we can justify in
our minds, well, if I feel it, it has to
be true. And uh, and that's not necessarily the case.
You know, emotions can come like for instance, if somebody
tells you that, uh, you know that you that your
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dog died and you're like, what, Oh my god, my
dog died and you're just freaking out, and you're they're like, ah,
just kidding. Well, you know, when the when the message
came across and the emotions hit, the reality was the
reality and a good day, good day down under? You know. Oh, no,
don't tell me, el Katso is here. It's gonna be
one of those nights, is it. What the meow is
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silly quirky doing here? Wow? Well, well now that you're here,
the show can start, Katso. But but I do find
that interesting that you know that that she brings that up,
you know, because man is that which he has experienced,
and so what can we do to change that experience?
And uh and and and open ourselves up to something
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potentially new and dynamic within ourselves that will then change
our our relationship with reality and with the outside universe.
So it goes on to say, man becomes that which
he seeks to know, that is wisdom is the result
of a progressive becoming through experience. Their results therefore a
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continuous transformation or transmutation of the motives, ideals, and perceptions
of the individual whenever in his daily experience in life
he is placed on the lines of least resistance or
the natural order of evolution. I feel a coughing attack coming.
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I can't do that. We're live. This is termed the
alchemical process of transforming or transmutation of the lesser into
the greater. And you know, alchemy is really really cool
when you get into spiritual alchemy. I got some some
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interesting books on that as well. The transmutation of the
base metal into gold, and that's and that's the transmutation
of the lower emotions, the lower self into into a
higher spiritual experience and plaint of thought and action and behavior.
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You know. So the alchemical process of transforming your transmutation
of the lesser into the greater is is just that
is trying not to be lazy in life and doing
what little we can do, hopefully on a daily basis,
to expand our own, our own thinking, and our own
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personal relationship with the universe, which then hopefully starts to
change our relationship with those other people around us. You know,
when you can set yourself aside for for others. It's uh,
you and my wife are experiencing something like this right now,
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where we've had somewhat of a stranger enter our lives,
who desperately needs help, who've been basically abandoned by their
entire family. And although it's not exactly you know, our
responsibility or up to us to step in and help
this poor woman out, you know, we've been putting ourselves
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aside and doing just that. And and even though it's challenging,
there is you know that there is a reward in
that in in a way, because we're putting ourselves aside
and saying, okay, yeah, this is not something that we
would normally do or responsibility that we would normally try
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to take on. But it's the right thing to do
and and and so we've been doing it. And and
even though it's been a bit of an emotional roller coaster,
it's it's definitely uh provided us with with kind of
a different point of view and outlook on life, because
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the poor lady is terminal, and and that certainly makes
one look at their own lives, you know, because at
some point in time, we're all going to be terminal
down the road and UH and be knocking on the
door UH for our final entry or exit.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Hang on, I don't mean to cut you off, but
I just want to make sure I heard something right.
So you guys are currently hoping to take care of
somebody who's terminal. Is that? Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yes, yes, it's it turned out that way. It wasn't
that we were that that that was going to be
the plan. But this, this particular individual who who came
into our lives, uh in in a roundabout way, has
basically been all but abandoned by her family and she's
she's up there in age a bit and uh, you know,
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her brother, her sister, her kids, nobody is doing anything
to help this poor lady. And it's, uh, it's just
really tragic.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
The only reason I was asking is because Arouse, sometimes
we'll start talking about stuff and we'll have parallel thoughts
while we're having conversations. We seem to be we seem
to be on a parallel lifetrack right now because I
have somebody staying with me who's in like stage five
renal failure. Oh wow, far out, same same situation. Not
anybody really to help or anything. So I'm kind of
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the one I was. It was just weird when you
started bringing that up. I was like, Okay, that's a
little weird for us to kind of be going through
the same thing at the same time.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Wow, Well good on you, man,
Good on you. So it's it's it's kind of it's
it's moments like that in life, though that I think
that that we when we are able to put our
own needs and want and selfish desires and motives aside,
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and uh and and and do something that's outside of
our comfort zone, more more likely than not, there's going
to be a growth and emotional and a spiritual growth
that comes out of it. You know, KZ, what's up, buddy.
So it says when men once comprehend this, they will
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understand the mystery of alchemy, the transformation or transmutation of
baser metals into the pure and shining gold. Once men
accept these truths, the conscience is awakened, and as they
learn to know, they will begin to become Excuse me,
it's interesting that this particular page must have been something
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else to me. I wrote the hell out of this.
I don't know if I'm gonna read what I wrote,
but a lot of Yeah, the rest of what this
says must be very, very fascinating to me, because I
haven't read this book in many years, but it goes on.
It says a co've I squared this off too, so
this must be important. It's all pay attention. Oh great,
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my PC has twelve unstable, outdated drivers, thanks of ASS
for the notification. So it says conscience is the struggle
of the understanding an assimilating experience. It is the effort
of the individual to adjust precept with practice, or in
other words, conscience is that living active, something which sits
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in judgment of our acts and issues warning against repetition
of evils committed, thus helping to free the soul and
increase man's ability to recognize the truth and to apply
it in everyday life. Thus, while man is learning, if
he also lives accordingly, he has actually grow, growing or transmuting,
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and the process will be far advanced even before he
becomes aware of any growth made. So, uh, that's interesting
that we're we're touching on that, especially with both both
of what we're kind of going through, because that, uh,
it is these kind of moments when when we're doing
something that is that that that is not necessarily like
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forced upon us, but something that comes somewhat out of nowhere,
that that that that requires our our attention and and
our kindness and and and a softness. You know, this
is I think that the world we live in, right man?
We does it say, corn, I have a girl to
take care of my drivers? Well, lucky you, pal, lucky you.
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I'm not talking about golf. Okay, nice and uh but
but yeah, man, it's uh, you know, I think it is.
It is important to kind of get outside of our
comfort zone at times, and even if that means just
changing up a daily routine. You know what, do we
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get so locked into that we that we do the
same thing pretty much every day? Do we always drive
the same way to work every single day? Do we
drive the same way home from work every single day?
You know, when we're coming home from work, can we
take a different route just for the heck of it
and see something different? More recently, you know, I live
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so close to the beach, and I rarely ever go
to the beach, But more recently I've just been like,
you know what, man, I'm going for an evening swim.
I'm going down there. I'm gonna float in the ocean.
And like in the last week or so, I've been
I've been down there floating in the water, from Hey,
I miss Australia too, Thanks Vampire Babes. I've really been
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enjoying just getting up and driving the mile, you know
to the beach. I could pretty much ride a bike there.
It's like a mile and a half over to the
beach and just floating around and it's been a game
changer for me. It's been really, really lovely. But I'd
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be curious what I wrote here. I'm probably not going
to read that, but I will continue down here. It says,
man know thyself was written above the door of every
temple wherein we're taught the ancient mysteries. As the vision
of the neophyte enlarged in relation to the labors and
meanings of life, his power of comprehension and assimilation also
increased proportionately. This was an evolution. And man know thyself.
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You know, that's one of those sayings. I really love that,
because what is knowing thyself is what is knowing getting
to know ourselves. Because I think that it's easy to
assume that we know exactly who we are because we
live in our bodies, and we think with our minds,
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and we feel with our our emotions. So we must
know ourselves we must know what's going on. But I
think every single one of us has somebody in our
lives who thinks they know it all, who is so convinced.
Maybe you guys are thinking about that about me right now,
but you know, but I know Katso is. But you
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know somebody who just thinks that they have got everything
dialed in, and that you know that they that they
have they know everything about everything, and what they say
is exactly right. And that's that, you know. I hope
that that's not the kind of person that I am,
or I hope that that's not how I think. And
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even when I catch myself, you know, thinking that way,
I'm I'm at least separated enough from from that reactive
personality just enough. I'm separated at least just enough to
hopefully be able to not get caught in that trap,
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you know what I mean, where I just assume that
I'm correct about whatever it is, because I do at
least try to say, well, you know, I could be wrong,
you know what I mean. It's like whether it's whatever
the conversation may be, generally speaking, you know, it's the
more heated conversations these days are politics, which I try
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to steer clear of for the most part. But when
I am talking with someone who we have differing opinions
on that particular subject, I do tend to say, hey,
time will tell, We'll see. I'm not saying this is
the way it is. Something else could change my mind
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those kind of things, which is true for me. You know,
I'm not going to pretend that what I believe about
any one particular subject is absolute, because I don't believe
there are absolutes in the universe. I think, in an
abstract way there's absolutes, But at any given time, something
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that we perceive as an absolute can alter and change.
You know what I mean? And you're always wrong, Katzo says, yes, yes, yes,
I know. But that's what's good about it. Being always
wrong means that I don't ever have to be right,
and that takes a lot of pressure off of me.
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It goes on to say, what makes such an evolution
seem impossible is that it cannot be conceived as being
accomplishable in a single life. It is the result of
persistent effort, guided by high ideals, sometimes requiring many lives,
all depending upon the continuity of the efforts made. There must, however,
come a time when the consummation is reached in one life,
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may be in our present life. This is the logical
meaning of the saying of the Nazarene it is finished.
The mysteries of the Christ received a new interpretation after
the First Nicene Council and the Church sought greater dominion
over men and mundane affairs. It entire it entirely lost
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sight of the great secret. Since then, it has constantly
denied that such a secret teaching ever existed, and every
crime known demand has been committed in order to obliterate
reference to it from records and monuments. So it is finished.
So it's similar that kind of goes along with the
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with the with the other saying, man know thyself, and
it is finished. You know, yes, I get that that
in the Nazarene, when when saying that it is finished,
that that there is a moment in time when when
I think that it is possible to have to truly
know thyself. Not even death in taxes, no absolutes. Hey,
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you know, I would say the last like five years
of life. If you're really that terminal who cares about
paying taxes anymore? Just uh, just go for just the
death and then there's no more absolutes. Right, death is
an absolute, but if you but if you believe in reincarnation,
then it isn't an absolute. It's just a uh.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, that's just even if you don't believe in reincarnation,
death is death if you have any sort of faith,
is basically a dorway. So there is no absolute.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yes, exactly what happens after that is still open to interpretation.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But yeah, I kind of agree with you if you know,
if you if you know you only have a couple
of years left to live, just tell the tax band to.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Me, it says, I see, But it makes it very
hard for Katzo and Sabrina to tell you the whole
day that you are always wrong. I love being wrong.
There's you know, it's it's humble, It's it There's that
there's a humility that comes with being able to admit
when you're wrong and not trying to grandstand and be
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right even if you're wrong. You know, I'm sure we
all know some folks like that too. They'd rather not
talk to you for the rest of their lives than
admit they were wrong. Right, But it goes on to
say here the neophyte as a result of setting into
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activity the law. When he asks upon himself the sacred obligation,
brings upon himself these misfortunes by his disloyalty. A vow
is like a boomerang. When an attempt is made to
repudiate or disavow it, it will bring misfortune to the
one attempting to break it. Many of those who compose
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the Council of Nice knew of the traditions of the day,
that the greater mysteries were in possession of certain secret schools,
but in the main they themselves, having lost all connections
with the mysteries, considered the assertions as mere vaporings of
madmen or fanatics, and gave little or no heed to them.
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Had the Council of Nice been composed of initiated priests,
there would be a far different story to tell, and
much of the war rapine which have swept the world
time and again since that era, might have been wholly avoided.
That's an interesting thought, you know, that the kind of
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romanization of early Christianity, if it had been if the
teachings of the Nazarene had been interpreted by more spiritually
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aware individuals, that might not have been doing it for
their own reasons for control of populations where we might
be because obviously there's the Gnostic Gospels, which are very
interesting UH to get into, and then you know the
and then you have the the Uh cathari and the
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Albagensians who were were practicing it's it's supposed we're practicing
a very ancient form of Christianity that that was far
different than, you know, than than what we practiced today.
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It was it was an individual relationship with with God
outside of any formal church setting, and a lot of
their group, you know, their group activities would take place
outdoors in fields, in wooded areas, in areas of beauty
and and nature, which, in looking at Jesus' life, that's
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pretty much where he always taught, you know. I mean,
the Sermon on the Mount, for instance, would go right
along with that theme that you don't need a roof
over your head to have a relationship with God. Right.
But the Therapeute of Alexandria was merely another name for
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a branch of the Essenian community. Thus from these orders
were derived the Christian mysteries preserved in the ancient archive
or the secret archives of the secret schools known only
to initiates of advanced degrees. The secret doctrine was adapted
from the earlier mysteries of the primitive Christians during the
first three centuries of our era before the First Council
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of Nice three twenty five AD. With the burning of
the Great Library of Alexandria, the supreme power of the
established Church in Western Europe obliterated the primitive wisdom. And
uh yeah there you know when when the when the
Library of Alexandria was was torched, that there was so
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much that was lost to the world, so much history
we may we may know a lot more about. Like
let's say that you know, the the story of Atlantis
and solon A, a Egyptian priest, was the one who
first told the stories of Atlantis to Plato, and and
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that there would have had to have been some kind
of written records of it. And what was Atlantis really?
Was it a worldwide uh civilization like similar to what
we have today, you know, uh that that the entire
planet itself was Atlantis? Or was it just one continent
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that we're now unaware of or or or or are
the ancient leftovers of the past like go Beckley Tepe
or other you know, the the monolithic stone structures that
you find all over the world that have been built
on top of Are those the remnants of the Atlantean world?
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I'm sure that Rick, you're probably really into that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Oh yeah, no, we've we've touched on Atlantis a few
times on the Conspiracyment. Sure that we do. As a
matter of fact, one of these times, when you're not
traveling all over the world, we need to figure out
how to make that happen.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yes, we do. Yeah, yeah, well, let's line it up
as soon as possible. Actually, let's let's get on that.
That would be a lot of fun. I have a
great book, Our Story of Atlantis, that would be fun
to get into as well. That's uh, but yeah, Forest.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
One of my theories about all the common archy of
the common archay archaeological sites. Trying to say that real
quick when you're trying to walk fast. I think I don't.
I think Atlantis may have been a lot like the
world we see today, where you know, America and the
Western world have had a great influence all over the place.
I think Atlantis was doing a lot of the same things,
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which is why you see commonality in a bunch of
different places where there really shouldn't have been commonality. And
also also some things that make no sense with the
technology of the time that they were able to do.
I mean some of these things were like built within
an eighth of a degree of being, like spot On
with galactic North. You would think that would be impossible
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in that day and age without some sort of influence.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We don't have an alien in the chat, but I
doubt he's.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I love alien perspective. He's a fun way. He puts
out some great memes. Some of his memes are a
little naughty and I can't retweet them, but I do
enjoy him. But split, he writes, split a piece of wood,
I am there. Lift up the stone and you'll find
me there. And that's you know, that's a that's a
great saying actually because you know in everything we had
talked about that on one of the previous episodes, kind
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of the string theory that you know that, and and
the energy of creative, of creation being inside of everything,
even that which we don't we don't see as being animated,
like a stone or or or a piece of wood.
We might not see the animation in it, the life
in it. But if you, if you look close enough,
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if you can really perceive it, you will find that
the that the energy of creation is trapped in there,
just as it is inside ourselves.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well. Yeah, and I think that was a very simplistic
way of trying to say the very thing that we're
talking about right now, because every single one of us
is connected, all.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Of us, yeap.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And and now that they're starting to be able to
prove that out through quantum physics and everything else, I
think we are probably a decade or so from having
our entire life and everything that we understand about the
world turned on our head, if things progressing the way
they are. And I'm I'm not even sure it'll take
a decade. I'm just I'm just being concidered in my
time frame.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, man, I I I think that that's there's something
very exciting about it. And then also, uh, similar to
what what this book was just talking about, how in
in the Nicenian Council they sort of cherry picked what
they wanted and and and wrapped it up in a
in a way that uh that that that suited their
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purposes and may have contorted and altered the you know,
the true the true teachings of the nazarene uh to
fit their mold and and you know, their romanized their
their pre Christian religious traditions and then and folded all
of that into into what you know, came became organized Christianity.
(36:47):
You know, because previous to that, similar to when Saul
was was running around preaching, you know, the the the
Christians back then used to have to to seek to
meet in secret because they all be stood the chance
of of being murdered for you know, whatever they were practicing.
But so so was there what what kind of practice
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was going on? Is there something that we don't that
we're not privy to anymore that they were almost like uh,
you know, like like the the the theory that that
Jesus was the reincarnation of the Buddha or something like that.
Was there was there a Buddhistic meditative technique that was
being introduced, you know that that that that that caused
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people to wake up out of their stupor and realize
themselves as infinite you know, spiritual beings that that that
are are not just these one lifetime meat bodies that
you can just boss around and poke and prod and
tell to do this, and tell to do that, and
this is the way and this isn't the way. You know,
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when you wake up from from that stupor of of being,
of being told what is and what isn't and you
cannot be told what is and what is anymore until
you've come to a determination yourself. You know, that's that's
a that's a hard person to control and manipulate.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, And I mean, we we've talked about this. I
think it was two or three episodes ago. I firmly
believe that the faith of Christianity was basically a short
cut for the universe to have us stop having to
be on the hamster wheel for so long, because totally,
I think when everything started, the universe was like, Okay,
everything's here, and I'm trying to understand what's happening here,
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So it started sending emissaries out kind of like you know,
deep Space nine with the change Like, but I think
what happened is along the way, the universe started figuring out, hey,
apparently when we're in this form, we're a lot more
stupid than we thought we were going to be shortcut
because this is taking too long. But yeah, and I
think there are there are so many things that are
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interconnected with almost every single faith. And I think this
comes back to one of my favorite verses in the Bible,
which is not for now we see through a glass darkly,
meaning we don't know the whole picture. I think if
you really study pretty much every organized religion, you're going
to find the truth somewhere in the middle. Kind of
like when you're looking at news stories, you want to
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make sure you're getting stories from right, left, and center,
because the truth is usually somewhere in the middle, and
if you're not looking at all the perspectives, you're gonna
miss it. It's kind of the same thing with organized
religion because each part, each part of it that somebody
has glommed onto, is a very important part. But what
has always concerned me with the whole council that I
see and everything else is those people were deciding what
was able to be put into the Holy scriptures. Yeah,
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they shouldn't have had that ability, yeah, totally, because there
are things that were part of that originally that aren't now.
There's an entire section of books called the apocrypha.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
There are like entire gospels and entire chapters just missing
because One of them was the Book of Enoch. They
were like, Nope, can't have that in there because it
talks about that weird you know, sky painting and all
that stuff. And I'm like, that's that.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah, I haven't read the entire Book of Enoch. I
have it, uh, but but I tell you, man, that's that.
That's some wild shizz a. You know, that's it is.
And when you think is you know that is that text?
That that ancient? And if it is, what you know,
(40:23):
so you know what was what's going on here? You know?
What are we being spoon fed? Because that's it's it's wild,
it's all it's it's definitely wild. I'm going to try
and burn through some of this so that so that
we're not We're not still on this book two weeks
from now. But it says here all outward things are
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symbols or embodiments of pre existing ideas, and out of
the subjective ideal realm, all visible things have emanated or
been brought into objective manifestation. There is a grand science
known since the time of the Magi as magic. This
science was a mystery to the masses during past ages
and is little understood today. Hence feared by the ignorant
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and often ridiculed by the supposedly learned. This divine science
and its initiates nevertheless have been active in all ages,
as certainly as the fraternities in which these initiates are
masters in. In seeking magic, the neophyte finally becomes the
megis or wise man. All genuine initiation is an evolution
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and regeneration from within the imagination called in to assist
the reason may usurp its place or have its ally
helplessly entangled in its web. Only he is in danger,
whose heart is impure, whose purpose is unholy. The employment
of nature's universal symbolism instead of the technicality of languages,
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rewards the humblest inquiror and discos closes its secrets to
everyone in proportion to his preparatory training to comprehend them.
If they're philosophical, Oh, if they're philosophical, significance were above
the comprehension of some. Their moral and political meaning are
within the reach of all. He who uses occult forces
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for selfish purposes will eventually destroy himself. So again, I
just want to but to know, I'm just reading areas
that I just outlined. Real quick. So it's it's not
going to be it's non sequitur. You know. I'm just
reading you the things that jumped out at me when
I first when I first read this book. But this, uh,
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this part right here, the the imagination called in to
assist the reason may usurp its place or leave its
ally helplessly entangled in its web. It's interesting because we
used to do imagination exercises in my acting class with
Manu and and they'd be they'd be as simple as
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you know, imagine, you know, imagine yourself in an environment
like on a beach or uh, in a forest or
in some kind of clearing, and imagine all the things
that are there, what does it look like, what does
it feel like, what's the temperature? Uh And and just
sitting there on stage in the acting class and or
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imagine that you're peeling an orange, or imagine that you're
making a sandwich or whatever it is. And so you'd
sit there with your eyes closed and you go into
this imagination exercise, and it's fascinating how how kind of
nebulous it can become, like it's you know, there, there's there.
(43:48):
It took some time when I first started in his class.
It took some time to really be able to relax
into the imagination exercise and not drift off into into
other thought thoughts, you know about the past, the future,
or a bill I have to pay, or you know,
a person I want to talk to, or somebody I
(44:08):
forgot to talk to, or whatever all of the other
things are, and to be just completely and totally immersed
and focused in the mind on whatever it is that
that is being imagined to be real. And after a
while though, it became an exercise that I longed for,
you know, for when because that was one of the
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first things that we would do in class, was the
imagination exercise to free ourselves up from the mechanistic and
reactive world and to get into the creative. And how
I remember so well how I would feel when he
would bring us out of that imagination exercise, just so
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oddly present, like really present. So to be able to
go into the imagination exercise and and create a whole
entire world that doesn't exist, and to come out of
that and then see the world for what it is.
There was like a wild sensation of present time that
there was otherworldly. It's very cool. I should probably try
(45:14):
and do those exercises again. I could use them, I says.
Intellectual cultivation alone, no matter to what extent it may
be carried, and the farther it goes on in this
one sided way, the worse for all concerned is in
no sense and evolution. Perfect intellectual development without spiritual discernment
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and moral obligation is the sign manual of evil, propularly
known as the devil. Intelligence without goodness is detrimental to
the divine plan and the evolution of humanity. Can anyone say,
Bill Gates? Magic I E asked of the is? Its
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true meaning contemplates that all around development of the entire man,
which liberating the intellect from the dominion of the senses
and illuminating the spiritual perceptions, places the individual on the
lines of least resistance with the inflexible laws of nature,
and the megis becomes nature's coworker or handmaiden. The real
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master conceals his power and employs it only for good purposes.
He works without the hope of reward, knowing that God
is just believing that knowledge is power, designing an evil
minded men desire to possess both knowledge and power for
purely selfish purposes. The greater the possession of power a
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really selfish man has, the more inimical that the more sorry,
the more inimical to humanity he becomes. This is especially
true of the arcane science, which deals in part with
mental forces and the possibility of influencing the thoughts and
actions of others. The tradition the traditional lost word of
(47:05):
the Master is a key to all the science of
the soul. Term this science magic or what we will.
But it must be remembered that the so called lost
word is not a word, but refers to a force,
power or energy activated by obedience to spiritual development. Jumping
back up to the here is this, this idea of
using power for power for purely selfish purposes. You know,
(47:30):
it's odd. It reminds me of if anybody's familiar with
Project mocking Bird, which was a project which was a
method of mass mind control that was developed by well,
they say the CIA, but I mean this goes back
to even Roman times when they had the when when
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they had these newscasters so to speak, that would be
in the different parts of town, and they have these
little pedestals that they would stand on they would deliver
the new news of the day and tell you what
was going on outside of the Roman Kingdom and all
of that, or or what the latest news of the
day was, or gossip or whatever else, you know, even
(48:11):
though gossip was eventually made illegal in uh in uh
in ancient Rome. But the point is that Project mocking
Bird was, you know, was a means of getting all
of these different media personalities, journalists and whatnot, and and
and people who are are well known, uh be it
in you know, in the music business or acting business,
(48:34):
or whatever the case may be, and getting them all
to repeat the same, the same storyline, and that if
you hear it from this source, and then you hear
it again from that source, and then oh, you hear
it from this you know, this person that you respect,
that suddenly it must be how it is. And that's
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a form of magic, being able to trick someone in
believing something that isn't necessarily true. Uh that's a magic trick.
It's a type of hypnosis. And so we're all under
certain levels of hypnosis based on how many how how
many uh uh you know, lies or misrepresentations of truth
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that we've adopted over all these many years that we've
been alive. There's most assuredly, every single one of us
are are thinking with information right now at this very
moment that is probably totally not true at all.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
And was completely curated by the people in charge to
try to stay that way. You're in my wheelhouse again,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, man, yeah, yeah yeah. If anybody out there look
up Project Mockingberg, you'll be you'll be fascinated by it.
And then uh after that, if you really want to
go on a on a on a on a deep dive,
you can you can check out m k Ultra programming,
which is diabolical indeed. But oh my my snoop just
(50:06):
came in. The Theodore has just that's not a ghost
back there. That's that's Theodore.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
I guess his NAP's over.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Well, Hello Theodore, Yes, his nap time over. Hi buddy,
Does everybody want to see Theo? Let me see if
I can get up here Theo. You want to come
up here and say hello to everybody down the show?
Let me mark my place. Don't sneak away, don't sneak away.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh you're so heavy, you're so head.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
Look at that guy.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
On camera.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Don't be scared, cats, he's not mean. He won't cry,
you won't growl at you. He's the sweetest guy you
ever saw in your life. He just loves the Huggies. Yes,
somebody needs a bath. Yes, yeah, we could do a
(51:04):
whole hour of just me hugging theodor.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Okay, go on, we could actually do that sometimes and
put it out as what do they call that stuff
down when it's like sensory soothing stuff? We could do.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Oh yeah, totally, man, Just an hour of me snuggling
snuggling at Corky. He says that, howdy THEO the spy.
Oh it's you again. We talk later when silly Corky
is sleeping. I never sleep, although my wife did film
me earlier in Snoozsville snoring away. She showed me the
(51:38):
video afterwards because I don't believe that I snored, and
I rarely do, but now she has evidence that at
certain times I do. But today I was out doing
some graffiti art with my buddy Necks. That's why I
have painted fingers that and and it it got real
(52:00):
really hot out there, so for like about two and
a half hours out of the five hours we were painting,
I got cooked. So when I showed back up at home.
I was just dusted and went into a serious snooze
and started snoring. And don't you hold that against me, darling.
But yeah, man, uh the you know, I think that
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it's just one of those things to just kind of
be aware of, like are we being are we being
spoon fed information from a source that desires us to
think a certain way or believe a certain thing? Uh?
And and and is it important enough to you know,
(52:43):
to to our own well being to to back away
from from information in general enough to where we can
discern for ourselves through through our own investigations, what is
really true to us? You know, Good evening, Kevin, Good evening.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
I mean, it's just amazing to me how many things
have come out over the years that kind of prove
that our government has always tried to basically keep us
under thumb. They keep claiming that they don't, but almost
everything they do, in one form or another, is designed
to keep us under thumb. And I think why so
many people have started waking up to it now is
because that went like into major overdrive after COVID, because
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they just started trying to see how long they could
keep us inside and how many freedoms we were willing
to give up before we would finally say okay, enough
is enough.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Yeah, man, I mean without jumping the shark on subject
matters here. Boy, that wasn't because that when they first started,
you know, making all these suggestions about what they were
going to disallow us from doing, I was I was
pretty damn well convinced that they were not going to
get they were not going to pull that off. And
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I was absolutely flabbergasted and shocked to see how many
people drank the kool aid right out of the gate.
I mean the majority in that in many places it
was it was it was a jaw dropper.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
But that just shows how that just I mean, you know,
to tie this back to the topic, This just shows
how well people have been programmed. Because as soon as
the government said you have to and it's for your
own good, everybody was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Whatever, totally man. Yes. And then and then the Lemmers
all follow all go off the cliff together. Although I
will say that that whole thing about the Lemmers going
off of the cliff, that they followed each other, that
was actually a complete fabrication. The dude herded them off
the cliff and then and then reported it as this
natural thing that occurred, and it's that wouldn't it wasn't
true at all. He was a murderer of lemmos.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Well, to be to be fair, we're not trying to
kill like white furred monkey looking creatures that we're talking
about lemmings, not lemurs.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Yes, oh, lemmings.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yes, you know, I don't want I don't what hate
mail about trying to kill like zubumafu or something.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
Yeah, the lemmings, the lemmings. It's okay to herd lemons
off of a cliff, but not lemmings.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:03):
Uh So jumping back in the the traditional lost word
of the Master is a key to all the science
of the soul term this science, magic or what we will.
But it must be remembered that the so called lost
word is not a word, but references, but refers to
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a force, power, or energy activated by obedience to spiritual development.
I love that that little saying right there, you know,
because this this search for the the lost word, it's
and and you know, like they say that that Yahweh
is a placeholder for the true the true name of
God uh and and that that only in the holy
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of holies uh at sirt thas once a year or whatever.
And the in the Old Testament that the the priestly
class will be able to whisper the true name of God.
But but what is that? You know? So? And uh
and and it says here that it refers to a force,
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power or energy activated by obedience to spiritual development. I
mean that is that that that that's a powerful statement
right there. That it's not a word, it's a force,
it's a power, it's an energy that is activated when
we're obedient to a higher spiritual path in life. Uh.
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We're not hating on lemons so to speak, by the way,
uh J. Packard esquire. But you know they they do
give you a sour pucker face. So I just I'm
just putting that out there. Pucker up. The Megas has
attained to soul consciousness. He has purified the heart so
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that it throbs with love for humanity, and through the
reawakening of instinct and into it and intuition, he holds
the key key to many of nature's laws, whereby he
is enabled to accomplish his desires. He does not work
contrary to natural law, but in harmony with them. The
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Magi's art is therefore based on a science far deeper
and more exact than modern physical science has yet dreamed of,
and back of it lies a philosophy as boundless as
the universe, as inexhaustible as time, and as beneficent as
the Father of Heaven. All human progress runs in cycles.
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Modern materialistic science is having its brief day and must
gradually take its rightful place. True philosophy has already undermined
its foundation. The New Age will initiate a genuine revival
of spiritual philosophy and an exact science of life. There
is a nature. There is in nature one most potent force,
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by means of which a single person, knowing how to
direct it, could revolutionize and change the whole face of
the world. It is a universal agent whose supreme law
is equilibrium, and when controlled by science, it will be
possible to send the thought in an instant around the world.
Thought creates a vibration, the sound of a trumpet. Vibration
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destroyed the walls of Jericho. There is a life principle,
a universal agent wherein all two natures and double current
of love and wrath, this ambient fluid pervades everything. It
is the body of the Holy Spirit, the universal agent,
the serpent devouring its tail, symbol at once of continued
youth and immortality of the soul plus unlimited power. The
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initiate alchemists were fully informed of this electromagnetic ether, this
vital and luminous caloric force, developable to a degree by everyone.
It's interesting again that in the alchemists in ancient China
know that when they were using this this this philosophical
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trickery kind of of of of using this idea of
the transmutation of base metals into gold, when they were
talking about something that that happens internally, that is that
that's and and using this allegory as a as a
means of explaining to to someone where they have a
(59:28):
picture of it in their mind and they can use
that imagery and internalize it. And and and therefore that
imagery becomes a type of a magic uh in in
inner magic, which allows for us to to see the
potential of raising ourselves up out of a a lower,
(59:51):
more base condition into a heightened, more spiritual type of
of reality or experience. And that the you know, the kings,
the rulers of ancient China, when they would hear this.
They weren't spiritually adept enough to understand that it was
an allegory, and they would want these monks to actually
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change base metal into gold, and they'd be like, dude,
this is not exactly what we're talking about, and they'd
be like, okay, kill them. So so a lot of
these dudes started trying to, you know, figure out ways
of actually physically doing that, just to save just to
save their lives. Oh man, we're up on the hour,
so listen. If you guys are going to try and
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change some base metals into gold, do it internally. Don't
do it in your kitchen or your garage because it
ain't gonna work. Thanks so much for joining us. I
can't believe that we went over by fifty seconds. And
God bless all of you. Thank you for being here.
I loved you all. And thank you Rick and Kayler
and radio for this show. I will see you next Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
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