Corin's Reading Room Episode 13 -- The Philosophy of Fire Part 10

In the final installment of the series on The Philosophy of Fire, join Corin Nemec in his reading room as he discusses topics like reincarnation De Ja Vu and more/

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (02:50):
Testing Testing is this thing on? Are we live? What's happening?
Oh my god, I've gone yef not hearing anything? Testing? Testing?
Am I muted? Let me see? No, I'm not muted.

(03:10):
We've lost Rick. There's Rick.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
It was me. I was muted somehow. I don't even
know what happened there, Rick, we lost.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Our normal opening with the jazzy music and everything.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, actually, because I'm gonna cut it, so we're just
going to do it from here, so it'll make it
easier for me. So we'll just pretend this didn't happen yet.
The life everyone, So yeah, I'll fix it later. So
here he is, ladies and gentlemen, the man, the myth,
the legend. Cordin to.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Excellent work, Rick, fantastic, Well, what's happening everybody? I see
that the message boards are lighting up all kinds of
excitement and enthusiasm out there. Artists, shoe, what's happened to
my brother Vincent? Charles Alan Ray? Sicily down there, all

(04:02):
the good folks, wonderful We're coming through loud and clear.
It's excellent news. It's great news. And very excited for
this evening, very excited to dive back into this book
and then thinking quite a bit. When I have time
to think, I've been thinking quite a bit about what
we read last week where we left off as well,

(04:24):
because I love that what's up Abbach? I love that
one saying that was that I'll just repeat real quick.
It's on page one six. Again. We're still digging into
the Philosophy of Fire, which is a fantastic book. It's
it's Reverend R. Swinburne Climber, MD, who is also a

(04:48):
Rosie Crucian and philosopher and very interesting. But he just
wrote here a personal absolute exists, not except in potency.
God does not think, but is the cause of thought.
And I just love that, you know, I love that
idea of of a of a cause, of a causal

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you know, a causal force behind all that that that
makes up the metaphysical universe, where where really we exist
for the most part, our entire lives. There's, in my
humble opinion, you know, the majority, if not all, of

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our actual experience in life is taking place in our minds,
not necessarily in physical reality, because if we don't have
our minds in order to make sense out of what
our physical bodies are going through, then there is no
experience whatsoever. So really, the the interpretation of everything that

(05:57):
we're experiencing essentially is all happening, you know, inside these
crazy places. And there's the link to philosophy of Fire
if anybody wants to get it I highly highly recommend
this book, and I also highly recommend creating a character
for the stage of life I've written by yours. Truly,

(06:20):
there's interesting enough. There's quite a bit in here that
we've been discussing over these past weeks. Maybe we'll do
my book one day. But going on to page one
fifty seven where we left off, it says, in the
Hearts of Men, there has always been a concept of

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what Christ or the perfect Man should be. The justice
of God towards every human creature implies a like justice
between man and man. This principle of justice is a
universal law and is equally meted out to all. And
if the perfectibility of man's nature through evolution is to

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be accomplished, reincarnation is the only means. And I find
that I find I find that statement to be simple
and profound, that if the perfectibility of man's nature through
evolution is to be accomplished, reincarnation is the only means,

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Because how could it be possible, especially in this crazy
world we live in today, for any one person in
a single lifetime to be able to achieve some type
of perfected state. I mean, I'm sure it's possible, but literally,

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your every waking, breathing moment of life would have to
be one thousand percent focused on only that accomplishment. There
could be no other layer Hbor really involved, no other
experiences involves. Why in Buddhism they say that it takes

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upwards of sixty lifetimes for someone to achieve the state
of body, and which is what the Guatama Buddha had
achieved in his lifetime. But he had said that that
also went back to his previous lifetimes before he was
self realized, you know, six hundred some odd years before

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Christ and his philosophy, his teachings. It's his philosophy and
his teachings civilized over half of the known population of
the planet at that time. Even though Buddhism decreased in

(08:52):
its in in its popularity, and in its numbers over
over many last several thousands of years. But from from
his time, you know, six hundred some odd years before
Christ up until the Christian era, it was incredible what
what Buddhism accomplished, I mean, Buddhism was was all the

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way down into Persia and Uh And you see that
in in Uh, in Afghanistan and other areas like that.
There's these massive statues of the Buddha that were carved
into the mountain sides a Catalonia. Greetings, greetings. That's that's awesome,
And and that just goes to show the the you know,

(09:37):
the popularity of Buddhists, of Buddhist teachings and Buddhist life,
that that even in the in those regions getting closer
and closer to the Middle East, you had, you know,
you had these uh iconic statues that were carved, which
must have been very difficult back then to a com

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the size they were, I mean, they make the size
of those statues make Mount Rushmore look like, you know,
four golf balls sitting on a hillside. But yeah, man,
I'll just go on. We'll get into some back and
forth with Rick here in a second. So it goes
on down here again. I'm only reading stuff that I

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underline that I outline. I'm not reading the whole book.
But I find some of what he's saying and here
very quite Buddhistic. That's why I wanted to segue there.
But it says here carried out to its logenists, imply
Saint John's vision of heaven and earth, Heaven on Earth
will come about as a result of two actions, a

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the self destruction and elimination of themselves by vast numbers
through the evils, which biblically stated, the soul that sinneth
it shall die and be Those who accept the divine
law will so live as to transmute the personality into
an individuality and become, in truth the sons of God. Thus,
by the elimination of the vicious and the divinification of

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the just and righteous, Heaven will be made manifest on earth.
The doctrine of preexistence taught in all the mysteries applied
to every child of woman born. The conditions of earth
of each life are determined by the lives previously lived. Thus,
the fatherhood of God and the personification of Divinity in

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humanity includes the universal and unqualified justice which men will
will sooner or later receive by the activity of the
divine law, be able to escape. There's such an absolute
and irrevocable law. The true initiates of all ages knowing
this as a result fault of their experiences in the

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mysteries of initiation, those of autocrats, oligarchs, potentates, and oppression
in any form and from any source, whether this be
ecclesiastical or political. Neophytes are taught to obey the laws
of the country in which they live. If such laws
are clearly unjust, then they are at perfect liberty, and

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it becomes their duties to work for their replacement by
just laws. Initiates are not a revolution, but of evolution persuasion.
They may shife to reformination or a church, but they
do not tempt to overthrow either. Last week I was
looking for a comment that I wrote on one of

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the pages, and I realized that it wasn't in past phases.
It was in the Ford, but I wrote here materialistic
humanitarians only. Okay, materialistic humanitarians are concerned with the physical
gains associated with being a so called accomplished person instead

(12:52):
of helf realized individual. And I kind of got that
from from some what I I was reading in here,
And the idea of that is that we spend so
much much time and energy trying to become an accomplished person.

(13:14):
You know, what is our What what does it say?
Or are we the VP? Are we the are we
the president? Are we the CEO? Or we the CEO?
Or what are we? You know? What we what have
we achieved in life? What kind of cars do we have?
What kind of you know, materialistic uh gains have we

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have we made for ourselves that we can then show
people in our driveways and the size of the end
and what we have, what kind of TV do we have?
How nice is are our cutlery? All of these things
instead of focusing on being a self realized individual, which

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denotes and and and anti materialistic point of view, meaning
that yes, having the comforts of this life can afford
us the ability to become realized, but only being focused
on comforts of this life doesn't help that. So you know,

(14:18):
again there's always this balance I wrote in here. You know,
an individual is like an indivisible duality individual, So it's
it's a duality that is there that makes a singularity,
but it has to be balanced, right, And that's what

(14:39):
I'm That's what I'm digging on. Yeah, you dig me? Rick?
Did I lose you?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Now? I'm still here. I just usually when you're talking
about yourself, I try to give you the full stage.
So I'm not just sitting here and everybody's going, what's
he doing over there looking off on the screen?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
But no, I mean there's so much to unpack with
this part of it, because you know, and shoot is
brought up interesting point in the Chad, what if life
is a loop reincarnating you back to your own childhood
and that's why you have deja vu. The interesting thing,
there's a quantum there's there's a quantum mechanic theory. Now
that some of that they believe that sometimes what might

(15:15):
be happening and this is in the realm of you know,
kind of out there quantum theory. But you know how
occasionally people will tell you, you know, like the whole
thing with the Mandela effect and all the things, people
will sometimes remember things differently than other people is because
at some point the life in the universe they were
in ended and they've jumped to a new one to

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continue the journey. And so I've I've been researching that
quite a bit because that's that's right up juxtapositions alleys.
So the fact that they're starting to talk about that,
even in the realm of even a distant possibility and
quantum physics is kind of astounding.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I've also, uh, as far as
deja vu is concerned, some of my my light research
into what that phenomenon potentially is uh that you know,
when when we're speaking of the you know these kind
of like these these quantum loves of these cycles of
life or or in like when we're we've been discussing

(16:13):
the acosic record, which is a storage house of of
all potentialities, meaning uh, you know, meaning that our destiny,
our time track that we're living on. There's there's so
many different places that we could end up being based
on what our daily choices are on our on our
path to wherever it is that we're trying to to

(16:35):
get to. And uh, one of the one of the
interesting theories there is that the deja vus is that
moment when the tuning in becomes perfect, that you're actually
right where you're supposed to be along the time track,
and that that that jarring kind of outer body experience

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of the moment, you know, like, wow, I've been here before.
What is this? I feel like I know this moment
this experience is is that you know you're you're right
where you're exactly supposed to be because of all of
the different potentials, and you've realized a moment of that
in the present time.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
It's funny that you mentioned that because that happens to
me all the time, and it used to It even
used to happen to me when I was a kid,
when I could barely understand that what was happening. It
was just weird moments of it feels like I've lived
this exact moment before. As a matter of fact, it
just happened to me. A few days ago. I was
in the middle of a conversation with somebody and I'm like, dude,
we have had this conversation before. Of Course I didn't
say it to them, because everybody looks at me like

(17:35):
I've grown an extra head when I say but the
funny thing is, I've noticed throughout my life that it
always seems like it's kind of a sign post and
it's kind of letting me know, hey, this is exactly
where you're supposed to be, because I've noticed things that
have happened afterwards that and I'm like, oh, this was
It's just something. It's weird that you put it that way,
because that's exactly how I felt about it for a

(17:56):
long time. But unpacking some of what you said a
moment ago about this whole quest for materialism, I really
wish we could get away from that, because with all
of the things that we could be doing with our time,
keeping up with the Joneses is the least interesting one too,
because there's so many things that we could make better.

(18:18):
I mean speaking of you know, not trying to pat
my own back or anything, but speaking of the network
that I've built. There are other people that are doing
this very same thing, and they charge everybody anywhere from
one hundred dollars per month, per hour and more wow
to do what I do. And I'm like, that's not
what this is about. This is about putting messages out.
If I can find a way to make it make
money on its own without having to say, oh, you're

(18:40):
going to pay me for my time, then it'll make money.
But that's not what I'm doing it for. I'm doing
it because I want to be able to put information
out into the universe and see what kind of return
it gets. But and it's kind of that same thing.
Everybody's like, you know, you could be making doing this right,
It's like you have why because then more and more
people would be like, I'm not paying that. I mean,
that's why you see all these works that are paying

(19:00):
that much, they usually wind up with five or six
people that are willing to pay them that kind of
money over and over and over again. I would be
as much out in there, much out there as possible,
and let it try to make it on its own.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I love that, and I think that I think that
you will make it, and I think that it will
become successful as as time goes on and as you
put more and more time and energy into this. You know,
the universe has to reciprocate at some point, although in this, uh,
in in this ohso materialistic world that we live in today,

(19:37):
sometimes there's a delay on that. Unfortunately, you know. It's
it's it's interesting that when when you see the success
of some individuals who are just that the smarmiest, most abrasive, uh,
most dislikable individuals you could ever imagine, but have accomplished
so much in this in the in a physical sense,

(20:00):
you know, in this in this world. But and then
it makes me think, well, that's because that's that's what
their makeup is. They're totally completely enthralled and and and
immersed in making making things happen for themselves to enrich
themselves and empower themselves. Uh and and that being their

(20:22):
their their primary focus. Of course, that they're able to
accomplish it, but doesn't mean that they're that they're wonderful people.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I mean, in some ways, the universe is already paying
me dividends. I mean, heck, I do a podcast every
week now with Parker Lewis, so I think I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, uh, Caspirius is like first time I have been
on these streams. What have I missed? Please give me
a full recap of parts one through nine. Yeah, yeah,
I'm glad you put a little tongue out there. That's
a that's a hell of a recap, my friend. Jumping
on to page one fifty nine, it says, the thinnest
veil over the sublime mystery of the ineffable name is

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brotherhood and love. The gross darkness that hangs like a
black veil over the Shechinah or Chicaina is selfishness and hate.
The Chicaina is the indwelling spirit beneath all of these.
Beneath all of these their sleeps or wakes a demon
or an angel. And one of these is ever in chains.

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For no man can serve two masters, never in the
history of the world, not even when directly under pagan rule.
Has such selfishness been manifested by such a diversity of
men of all classes as during these days of the
changing world, and the onset of the New Age profoundly
manifested to the student of history that the age, that

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the age beginning with Constantine and his counsel at Nice,
has been a degrading failure. The religious concept of the
Secret Schools is vastly different. It is in harmony. Faith
and absolute law are at the foundation. So called miracles
are conceived as resting upon law and justice, reason or

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cause and effect, because God cannot be either unjust or illogical,
or act without reason that a miracle be performed. Science,
as conceived by the Secret Schools, must be found on logic,
law and reason, and spirit as the life of the
material with which science deals. If one examines the symbols, questions,

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the mysteries, and searches out the root idea of the
founders and of the prophets, harmony will be found throughout
along diverse and often winding paths, one will always reach
the same point, so that penetration into the arcanum of
one of these religious means entrance into the secrets of
the rest. Then a strange phenomenon results by degrees in

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an ever widening circle. The doctrine of the initiates is
seen to shine forth in the fundamentals of these religions,
like a son clearing away its nebula. Each religion appears
as a different planet. With each we change both atmosphere
and celestial orientation. Still it is always the same sun
which illumines us that soul which was burned out. I'm sorry,

(23:13):
that soul which was burned out of her through her
practice of homost Well, that's getting into a whole other thing. See,
I'll just go ahead and read it. It just says
that soul which was burned out of her through her
practice of homosexuality, taught and practiced by the priestess of Hell.
The poetist Sappho, a cult rapidly undermining Western civilization. So

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it says here enchanting Greece sweeps us along to the
magic feasts of life and gives to her mysteries the
seduction of her form charming or terrible in turn, and
of her ever passionate soul. They're talking about Sappho. But
what's interesting about that is one thing. It's not in
this particular book. It's in another book. I think it
might have been written by the same by the same gentleman.

(23:58):
The Secrets of Sex and Race regeneration, I believe, is
what it is. And he just touches on, uh the
idea that that that that sex for any any other
means other than the pro pro creation of the race
is you get into a gray area of of of
ethics and morals and all of that, and that's left

(24:21):
up to the individual.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm I'm neither here nor there on that in present time.
But but you know, sex, addiction and things like that
obviously can take people down dark paths. I mean, that's
just anybody. Anybody can be aware of that. So but

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it goes on here to say the doctrine taught by Orpheus,
God is one and eternally unchangeable. He reigns over all.
The gods are diverse and innumerable, for divinity is eternal
and infinite. The greatest gods are the souls of the constellation,
half conscious, in excess and unchangeable. They govern the mighty
whole by their unvarying movements. Each revolving constellation draws along

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in its ethereal sphere phalanxes of demigods or radiant souls,
who which formerly human, and who after descending the scale
of kingdom, to have gloriously ascended the cycles and finally
issued from the ground of generation. It is through these
divine spirits that God breathes, acts, and manifests himself. Or
rather these form, or these form the breath of his

(25:30):
eternal being, the rays of his eternal consciousness. I know,
that's a that's a big mouthful there. What what What
I got not just from this but but some other books,
especially on on Egyptian metaphysics, is that that the pantheon
of gods were not it wasn't that there was this

(25:50):
all these different separate gods that that that you that
you know, that were worshiped as as individualities, but that
they were that they were a they were a diverse
array of of the source. So you could say that
there's there's one all permium in God, that you have

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these you know, the the zodiac, the twelve houses and
all that, and that that many of these, uh, these
gods that that came in ancient times were representative of
one of these houses, but that all of the houses
were were a single uh you know, a single thing
and Uh, and that that that as it as it

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manifested into all of its parts, some people would get
focused on on the individual permutations of it. So all
the gods of Egypt were basically the complexity of the
human psyche and Uh, and each of the different gods
represented a different aspect of ourselves. That h that once

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we could almost like a psychology. And then once we
could understand each one of these individuals and what they represented,
we could put the whole together, and then we could
apply it to to ourselves, which is similar to that
I mentioned in another another time we did one of these,
the story of of Horus and Set and o Cyrus

(27:16):
and Icies, and and how that was a an analogy
of the the the resurrecting of the spirit within and
the overcoming of the the lower nature and uh and
letting the lower nature be banished to the underworld, which

(27:37):
is represented by Set or Set and Uh, and that
Horace is the is the the living soul, that is
that is brought to life once you become self realized,
and that o Cyrus and Icies are the dual nature
of our, of our of of our psychological makeup, the

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negative and the positive so to speak.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Does that track Rick, Oh, yeah, completely, yeah, I'm good, good,
I'm good. I'm trying to push the feeds out and stuff,
so I'm only.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, dear thing, I'm gonna carry on. It's page
one sixty three. Here I struggled to find them brave death.
And it is said descended into hell to tame the
demons of the abyss to some of the gods from
on high, that lofty Heaven might unite with Earth. Listening
with delight to strains, divine celestial beauty will become incarnate

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in the flesh of woman. The fire of Zeus will
run in the blood of heroes, and long before mounting
to the constellations, the sons of the gods will shine
forth light. Immortal Krishna taught the doctrine of the immortal soul,
its rebirth and mystical union, not absorption. In God. The
body envelops the soul, which makes therein its dwelling and

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is a finished thing. But the indwelling soul is invisible, imponderable, incorruptible,
and he turned earthly. Man is threefold intelligence, soul and body.
If the soul is united with the intelligence, it attains Satva,
wisdom and peace. If it remains uncertain between the intelligence

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and the body, it is dominated by rajas passion and
turns from object to object in a fatal cycle. If
it abandons itself to the body, it falls into tamas,
want of reason, ignorance, and temporary death. That's a lot
of what we were just talking about is that you

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you know, you have this ability to be attracted by
by a more spiritualized way of experiencing life or attracted
to a more physical experience of life. And that's that
middle ground where we're trapped, being pulled back and forth

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between the two of them and how to and and
how we you know, what decisions we make on a
daily basis of what are we going to pursue in life.
Certainly we have to provide for our families, we have
to provide for ourselves. We have to have a roof
over our head, we have to pay our bills, we
have to do all of these things that are set

(30:17):
forth in the way that this that that that our
reality has been structured for us, and it's all it's
it's a completely false reality in my in my opinion,
you know, it's just this is the way that it's
been created for us. It's like a trap, a soul trap,
you know, where we're put into this, you know, this
life of like taxes, death and taxes, just like the

(30:40):
only thing you can count on, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Only two certainties in life, death and taxes.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
So well, the idea of reincarnation brings up another interesting point.
And it's something that since we've been reading this book
together or trying to, because I've noticed sometimes your your
page numbers in mind don't match because I have the
digital version. So I'm like, that's not what interesting, that's
not what mine says. But I can mention to figure
out where you are because I have good enough memory

(31:06):
to hold it there long enough until I find the
right page. But and some of it's because you're reading
from your notes, not the actual book too. But one
of the things that I find interesting because one of
the one of the theories that you and I have
batted back and forth pretty much since we've since you've
started doing the show and you asked me to take
a more prominent role, is the idea that we are
basically the eyes and ears and hands and feets of

(31:28):
the feet of the universe, as it learns everything about
what it's created. And the interesting thing about the idea
of reincarnation is, if that's really what we are, is
the universe ever really going to get tired enough of
learning that it doesn't keep sending us out to find more.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, I would say that as as infinite as the
universe appears to be, is as infinite as as the
possibilities are for self realization. I think that that you know,
like like is has been suggested in a number of
religions that you know, once you become an absolutely self

(32:07):
realized being and you're now vibrating on this on this
higher frequency, you you are then born into a whole
other type of reality. You know that that may have
some type of physical properties, but in such a in
such a way that we cannot possibly comprehend them. So
it's another dimensional phase of existence that would have, you know,

(32:31):
different separations and individuals, but there would be more of
a unification of those individuals in terms of their understanding
of one another. You know.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's well kind of like interconnecting to the point where
you know, the stuff that we're talking about kind of
in the proofy right now, like things like the ecostic
field I would assume probably in whatever the higher planes
of existence are, those things are more and more tangible.
So while we would still be separate into entities, we
are more interconnected than we are down here.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yes, anyway, yeah, totally man. So it goes on to say,
this is the devout man, surprised by death, after enjoying
for some time the due reward of his virtues, his
insuperior realms of peace, finally returns again to inhabit a
body in some holy and respectable family. But this kind

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of regeneration in this life is very difficult to attain.
The man, thus born again finds himself possessed of the
same degree of application and advancements as regards the intellect
and spiritual attainment as he had in his previous body,
and he begins to work fresh. He begins to work
fresh perfection through service and devotion. The mighty and profound secret,

(33:47):
the sublime and sovereign mystery, is this, that to attain
to perfection, one must acquire the knowledge of unity, which
is above wisdom. One must rise to the divine being,
who is above the personal soul, above the intelligence. This
divine being, this sublime friend, is in each one of us.

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God dwells within each man, though few can find him.
This is the path to salvation. Once thou hast perceived
the perfect Being, who is above the world and within thyself,
do thou decide to abandon the enemy, which takes the
form of desire. Control thy passions. The joys afforded by

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the senses are like wombs of future suffering. Not only
do good, but be good. Let the motive be in
the action, not in its fruits. Abandon the fruits of
thy works, but let each action be as an offering
to the supreme Being. The man who sacrifices his desire
and works to the Being, whence proceed the beginnings of

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all things, and by whom the universe has been formed,
attains to perfection by this sacrif For he who within
himself finds this happiness, his joy, his peace and light,
is one with God. Know then that the soul which
has found God is freed from rebirth and death, old
age and grief. Such a soul drinks the water of immortality.

(35:17):
We were just kind of talking about that, that idea
that at some point when you when you've accomplished that
type of of of of spiritual advancement that you don't
necessarily have to be born back into this physical world again,
because this is this is a uh and in between,
this is a stage of like like a classroom, you know,

(35:40):
where where the the the choices to either do good
or do evil are very apparent.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
We all have the ability every day to decide, well,
I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna go out today and
I'm gonna rampage on the world and I'm gonna make
everybody around me totally miserable. And that could be your
objective for the day, or it could be the opposite
of that, like, hey man, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
out there today and I'm gonna try and uplift people

(36:15):
and make people feel better because it makes me feel better,
you know. So that's that's the world that we're in.
We're in this in between you know.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, Well, I mean, going going back to the whole
concept of reincarnation and everything else, I also firmly believe,
and this is something that I've had to come to
terms with. I think a lot of what we go
through in our life is on purpose, because I think
in some ways we decide before we ever get here
the lessons that we still haven't learned, and we put
ourselves in positions to be able to learn them, and

(36:47):
it's up to us we have whether we do or
we do not totally and realizing that some of the
mess you will put yourself in is a is both
designed by the choice as you make here and the
path you chose before you got here, can change the
entire way that you look at all of them, because
it starts giving you more control when you realize all

(37:07):
of this has been up to you the entire time.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, man, I completely agree with that. I totally agree
with that. I think that that if if you do
believe in reincarnation, which to me is logical, I'm not
saying that that that that uh you know that it's
it's it's necessarily provable, because even even in the techniques
that are available to be able to recall past lives,

(37:32):
this could still be somewhat of an imaginary experience. Uh
and and and may not necessarily you know, be able
to be proven to be actual fact, although it's what
I personally believe.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know, again, even as a Christian, I find it
hard not to believe in that because there is a
point in the Bible in the New Testament, when Jesus
plainly asks who do people say that I am? And
they are naming dead people? Why would they off dead
people if they didn't believe in reincarnation. They weren't calling
him a zombie, they weren't running from him, So obviously

(38:09):
there's a reason why they were naming off those people
that weren't on our plane of existence anymore as far
as we know. So that's that's again, that's just one
of the things that, you know, even being a Christian,
that verse sticks in my head all the time, is like,
who do who do people say that I am? And
they start naming off people that had, you know, had
been dead years before, so totally even they believed in

(38:32):
it to a point. So, and we've talked about it
during this particular book, even if you do believe in reincarnation,
I think in some instances, maybe the universe has gotten
tired of how long it takes for some of us
to learn the lessons, so it gave us a cheat code.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, I dig that, dude, I
totally dig that. I'm going to see if I can
burn through a chunk of this this this chapter here,
because once this chapter ends up ahead, it gets into
Atlanta and then ancient Egypt and other things that are
a little bit more of like kind of a historical narrative.
And I think that I can I can finally end

(39:07):
off on this book before we get into those more
kind of historical narratives. So let me see what I
can do here if we can possibly get through the
rest of this The man reaching perfection is a Christ,
and Christ is united to God. This is the birthright
of every human soul. All real initiation is an eternal

(39:29):
is an internal, not an external or formal process. The
outer ceremony is useful only in so far as it
symbolizes and illustrates, and thereby makes clear the inward change
taking place. To be truly initiated is to be transformed,
and this indicates a regeneration and can result only by
trial effort, by self conquest as a result of disappointment, failures,

(39:54):
and daily renewal of the inner conflict. It is thus
that man must work out his own self. The consummation
of initiation is mastership. To the degree the neophyte has
been able to transmute the carnal within his nature, and
has been able to bring the Cristos into consciousness. This
is the goal, the perfect consummation of human evolution through

(40:16):
conscious development. By constant struggle and daily conflict with the
problems of life, the initiate has conquered self through life
after life. He has gained experience, which is wisdom. At
every step he has learned to love more and know
deeper feeling. The man who is without fear and without
it's a hard word to pronounce concupiscience, which is lust.

(40:41):
The man who is without fear and without concupiscience, who
has courage to be absolutely poor and yet just in kind,
who is ready and anxious to obey and live the life,
who is fortunate or unfortunate, satisfied to his home or
live in one owned by another, whether he is a
humble worker or honored by his fellow men, ready to

(41:03):
defend the poor or unfortunate against injustice when in his
power to do so, and who is envious of none.
Such a one is ready for the path and may
become an inheritor of the mystic kingdom of heaven, wherein
all things will ultimately added to his lot be added
to his lot. Possessions are neither an evil nor a hindrance.

(41:24):
But it is necessary to hold the mental spiritual attitude
that all material things are merely for passing use. In
the climb to the divine. There is nothing so difficult
as to attain to the state of equilibrium. It is
well to desire and seek, but not to be envious,
To love and feel, but not to hate. To possess,
but not to hoard, To enjoy but not abuse, to

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be affectionate but not jealous. To possess, power and influence,
but not use these for selfish purposes. The senses must
be controlled, especially sight and touch, and living entities should
be made of all the elements of the body. Then
within the self will be found the power to attain.
When the neophyte has gained control over the senses of

(42:08):
the body, and over the senses of the body, the
process of the ordeal is accomplished. The neophyte is under
his val the initiate and hierarch is free. So when
the neophyte has gained control over the senses of the body,
the process of the ordeal is accomplished. It's as simple
as that that once you're not you're no longer The

(42:28):
effect of everything that you're feeling, and you become the
absolute cause. Then at that point there's a great spiritual
accomplishment that's taken place. So through natural evolution, man is
continually climbing upward. Evolution, fortified by conscious development, helps him
to reach the goal, to reach the goal centuries or

(42:49):
eons before natural evolution would accomplish this, meaning that if
we apply ourselves on a regular basis to this primary
goal being spiritually advanced or awakened, then we can quicken
we can quicken the time it takes to achieve this,

(43:09):
which through many, many lifetimes. If you're not practicing this,
then it could take forever. So through development, man's five
senses are adjusted to observations and experiences on the physical plane,
and he gains by spiritual experiences. There is revealed to
him a whole world of action in which the lower
senses play no part, a world of aspiration in which

(43:32):
the selfish self is not the goal. The very physical
bounds of this self are loosening, expanding, and disappearing. Hitherto,
he has been conscious of flashes of intuition, of knowing
things he has seemingly never learned. He feels inner meanings
and senses subtler powers in visions and intuitions of the day.
The experience is beyond the bounds of senses. He becomes

(43:54):
conscious of power of concentrated thought. By conquering self, his
will become strong. By subduing passion, his mind becomes creatively powerful.
He has premonitions of coming events. All events and thoughts
exist first on the subjective plane and are precipitated thence
into matter. He has broken the bonds of self and
begins to function on higher planes of being, thus coming

(44:16):
into harmonious touch with the divine. So real quick there,
says you know. He has premonitions of coming events. All
events and thoughts exist first on the subjective plane, and
our precipitated thence into matter, meaning that all of our
actions can we can be totally completely conscious of all
of our actions and all of our behaviors. I'm not

(44:36):
saying that I am at all, okay, but we but
we can be. And this would this would take away
the reactive nature of our tendencies to just you know,
react to whatever is coming at us in potentially a
very negative way and cause more harm than good. Right,

(45:00):
So the idea is not to despise the body, but
to purify and refine it, not to destroy the appetites,
but to elevate and control them. This mastery of the
lower nature does not change the physical nature as such,
but subordinates it to that of the higher level. The
first step to be made in initiation is for the
neophyte to bring his thoughts into control. Instead of passively

(45:24):
and helplessly accepting all incentives that come from the physical desires,
or such as result from selfishness, pride, and other unworthy
aspects of the selfish will, he must change and exalt
the desires by an effort of the will, and then
the thoughts will be on a higher level. In this manner,
he will acquire mastery over his own mental processes and

(45:46):
free his will from the dominion of desires, which would
normally lead him downward rather than onward and upward. The
mysteries unfolded to the neophytes the evolution of worlds, the
religion of nature, the possibility of the immortality of the soul,
and the natural evolution of humanity. It goes on here
the ideal in the church and the state, the motive

(46:08):
of the ecclesiastical and political hierarchies has undoubtedly in all
ages aspired to government. Proposedly for this good, the secret
schools have always had in view the ideal that man
should learn and gain the power to govern himself first,
then to work in harmony with all others of like

(46:29):
attainment for the establishment of an ideal republic based on
justice and equal opportunity for all, without restrictions of any
nature other than fair dealing between man and man, and
non imposition of one man upon another. When, however, those
in power claim authority as an inheritance rather than by
service to man, suppress knowledge and punish those who refuse

(46:51):
to accept unjust dictation, interfere with free will and free choice,
and in some manner torture body and agonize the mind.
On the devil plea of the saving saving the soul.
They become the enemies of God, and say the man
meaning like you know that there's those practices, uh, you
know where people like whip themselves with like a cat

(47:11):
of nine tails, you know, like punishing themselves, torturing themselves
in a physical sense, you know, like the the fuckiers
of India and stuff with like you know, the like
tie their arm to their head, until their arm dies
and withers away to prove that they're that the body
means nothing to them. You know what I'm saying, Like

(47:31):
people can go to extremes to prove something that you
don't need to do that to prove.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah. Remember, folks, balance is good. Don't go to the extreme. Yeah.
Do you imagine doing that to yourself just to try
to prove a point?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Oh dude, I mean it wouldn't. You know. It's a
lot of people do crazier things to prove less important points.
We're doing pretty good, man, We're burning through it. I
might be able to knock this out before we go,
before we hit our hour. So it says here on

(48:12):
page one seventy two, souls as such are sexless. The
sex of the body is the result of selection by
the incarnating soul. No civilization that has ever existed has
risen to any great heights or long maintained its supremity
if it debased women or women debased themselves. The Secret

(48:32):
Doctrine taught with unmistakable clearness that sexual debasement, in any
form and long continued, is the high way to degeneracy
and the destruction of both man and woman of nations
quite as certainly as of individuals, destructive of both body
and the soul of man. The old gods were symbolic

(48:53):
or personal attributes of various phases of nature through which
man was taught to realize the existence of a supreme
being and an and an ever operating law. Let me
reread that the old gods were symbolical or personal attributes
of various phases of nature through which man was taught
to realize the existence of a supreme being and an

(49:17):
ever operating law. This was not polytheism nor idolatry, but
a system of instruction, not easily defined, yet pointing to
that which must forever remain unknown and unknowable except by
the aid of symbols, parables, allegories, and to the advanced
by sensing, feeling, and experience. We seek no man, Men

(49:37):
seek us to know, to dare, to act, and to
keep silent. Originally, there was but one exposition of the
secret doctrine, but as this spread in other lands and
other times, there was a division, each race giving its
own method of expression in its own peculiar symbolism. This
religious system was both scientific and philosophical, and its inculcations

(49:59):
were as law, governing every action of life, both natural
and spiritual. In time, as men became selfish, the mysteries
were debased and subjugated to the will of those not
in harmony with them, and it was only through the
efforts of the initiates, who sacredly kept their vows, that
they were saved for mankind. The conquest of Egypt by
the Cambisus completed the ruins in the land of the Pharaohs,

(50:23):
and Pythagoras became the link between the old philosophical system
and the Christian mysteries. Under the Gnostics, the Christian mysteries
were derived from the Essenes and the schools of Alexandria
then in their glory. It may be said with truth
that the Christian mysteries were the offspring of the ancient
mysteries and secret doctrines, so arranged as to meet the ideas, customs,

(50:44):
and needs of the time in which they flourished. During
the first few years after the time of the Nazarene,
these doctrines, under the faithful supervision of the Gnostics, flourished openly,
but were finally forced to be concealed as a result
of the act of the activities of Constantine. Constantine who
established Orthodox Christianity and destroyed, so far as was in
his power, all that belonged to or adhere to the

(51:05):
old regime under which the Nazarene had been taught and trained,
and for which he lived, labored, and suffered. The spirit
of the religion taught by the Nazarene was that of
the ancient mysteries and wisdom, religion so simplified that all
might readily understand and apply the inculcations in normal life
and daily activities. The ethical teachings of the Nazarene were
more pronounced than in ancient mysteries, and this was necessary

(51:29):
among a people who were openly termed a generation of vipers.
He who openly claims to be either initiate, adept, or
master is never what he claims to be, but a
fraud pretending to be other than what he is. The
charlatan is usually loaded with honors and rolling in wealth
as a reward for his deceit and misrepresentations of fraud
and self advertising, all of which he is shrewd enough

(51:51):
to conceal from the masses, but which quickly becomes apparent
to the initiate. Man betrays his character in every alignment
of his face, the pose of his body, and in
his walk, his hands, the tone of his voice, and
especially the expression of his eyes. No man possesses character.
Character is that which he is, and not something apart
from himself, which may be taken on or off at

(52:13):
will or as circumstances dictate. And then well on the
last two pages, although history may be found, so all
through history may be found those who were in possession
of the true light, initiates of the Flame, who concealed
from vulgar notice and foolish praise both their knowledge of

(52:34):
the hidden mysteries and their own identity as initiates. One
thing is certain. It is their duty and pleasure to
bring knowledge and give guidance to humanity when most needed.
And they have helped and still helped to shape the
destiny of nations. So that's the end of the main
chunk of the Philosophy of Fire. The following sections on

(52:57):
Atlantis and ancient Egypt and uh uh and and ancient Persia,
and it goes into the scenes and all that. Those
are a little bit more historical, which I highly recommend
you get this book and check it out. You can
get into those tasty sections that we're not going to
address because we're going to go on to the action

(53:19):
record next to you.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Save you should save the Atlantis portion for when you
come on mine and already's conspiracing, minshew deal.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I have another really really great book on Atlantis that
that people are that not many people are are aware of.
It's a fantastic book. But you know, in this last
section here again, it's just why I love this book
so much is because he just he absolutely just hammers

(53:47):
home this whole entire point.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Of of of differentiating ourselves from what is just a
reactive kind of emotion.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Emotionally driven uh physical desire, sensationalism, you know that from
from that and then a much more pure spiritual pathway
that that that can guide us through this morass of

(54:22):
of of physical wants and desires and everything and give
us the ability to find a really welcome balance between
our our thoughts, our desires, our actions and just just
being this, you know, which is in in in Buddhism,
you know, the being this is nothing nowhere, no time,

(54:44):
no one, you know, And that's and that's the state,
that's the state or the condition of the being when
it's just in a vibrant, a vibratory state where it's
just vibing, you know what I mean, And we want
to change our vibe, want to get into a really
good vibe with not only ourselves, but with the universe

(55:06):
around us at least that's you know, kind of what
I did. Well.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Well, the funny thing about this is, and this comes
up all over the place, because it was even brought
up in the sermon at the church I go to
or in the church I go to today. One of
the first ways to change your mindset is to get
out of the entire Western concept of time, because the
westernized concept of time is you have to be constantly

(55:31):
doing something you cannot stop. You never can stop. And
even throughout the Bible, everybody that's ever had any type of,
you know, feeling where they felt like they were finally
able to hear the voice of God, it's usually when
they have finally just stopped whether and most of the
time it happens when they're sleeping. They'll be woken up
out of sleep and realize that, you know, something or

(55:54):
someone is trying to communicate with them. So, if you
really want to start trying to change your vibe, or
your mindset, or we talk about all the time on
this podcast, your frequency. One of the first things you
got to do is learn to slow down, because you
cannot constantly be going, going, going, and focusing only on
the physical and your daily needs and everything else and
be able to tap into anything else. And and and

(56:16):
sometimes I think some of how this life has been,
you know, governed for us, is designed to keep us
from being able to do those things.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I I couldn't agree more. And
I think that that uh, you know, it's it's still
my my personal belief that that in those kind of
uh Atlantean times that you know and whatever, that that
that that worldwide civilization that existed before the fall, you know,

(56:46):
the Megalithic age as it were, that that that there
was a time when the spiritual vibe was was was
the main vibe, you know, I mean, this is this
is a theory that that was the main vibe, and
that that powerful individuals within that didn't like that game
anymore because they weren't able to do the things or

(57:09):
behave the way that they desired to and and so
brought about the fall of that of that ancient civilization
which would be the deluge, you know, of the great
catastrophe that occurred that ended that that civilization, which has

(57:29):
been timed out to be some you know, thirteen to
fifteen thousand years ago or so, and and that that
that now we're now we're back into an evolutionary state
where we're trying to find that place again hopefully, but
the powers that that that destroyed that old civilization are

(57:50):
trying to generate and create a new, a new age
that is that is really all about the physical experiences
and the devolution of the human race, uh and more
of a of a of a worldwide satanic cult as

(58:11):
it were.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah. Well, the scariest thing is, if you look, it
almost fits that we're kind of devolving to a point
because I mean I look at our education system over
one hundred fifty years ago and the things that they
were learning in six seventh and eighth grade versus the
things that they're learning in sixth seventh and eighth grade today,
and I'm like, this is shouldn't we be ahead of
where we were back then? Not well behind? But you

(58:34):
know what do I know, dude?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
One? I mean also, you know, when you when you
go back and you look at history and you find
out the age of some of the great people that
accomplished so much in their lives. I mean it's I
believe like Alexander the Great had already like conquered most
of the world by the time he was like eighteen
nineteen years old or something like that. You know, to
King Tutt was was eighteen nineteen years old when you

(58:58):
know when he was when when he was the ruler
of ancient Egypt. And and there was more of this,
uh that the that the youth they even though there
was a very strict kind of class system that you
can that you can really see in in uh in
India now you know with the untouchable class and then
that the class is going up to the rajahs. But

(59:20):
that that uh, but you learned the trade that you
were born into and you and so by the time
you were able to even hold a hammer and a chisel.
If your father was a mason, you know, a stone mason,
then you were learning how to become a stone mason.
If your father was a carpenter, then you were learning
how to be a carpenter. If your mother was a seamstress,
then you were learning how to be a seamstress. If

(59:42):
she was a gardener, then you're learning how to be
a gardener. You were you, and by the time you
were twelve thirteen years old, you're full blown working. You
know your life has begun. Uh so uh that's a
that's where we're gonna end. It is that that boy.
We are far behind the curve here and we got it.
We have a great life ahead of us, all of

(01:00:03):
us do, and a great opportunity to experience every day
anew and to bring something to the world that doesn't
exist that's positive and beautiful, right Rick, exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I mean, like I said, that's part of why I
do what I do. Why don't you remind folks where
they can find you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Hey man, First of I want to thank everybody for
being here. I love all the comments and everything. Sorry,
and get to a lot of them. I get so
caught up in these goodies. But you can find me
at the letter I, the letter M, and my name Kornimick.
I'm kornmic across almost all of the platforms except on YouTube.
It's Koran Nemic TV.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I gotta throw the TV in there on YouTube. Don't
blame me. Yeah I probably would too if I were
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