Corin's Reading Room Episode 7 -- The Philofophy of Fire Part 4

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Speaker 1 (03:00):
And Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome in to a new episode
of Korn's Reading Room, hosted by none other than Korin
Nimmick himself, the man, the myth, the legend, who is
right with us as of right now.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
What's up, buddy? How are you Rick?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
How you doing man? How you do it?

Speaker 7 (03:21):
I'm hanging tough, man, I'm hanging tough. It's sorry we
missed last week, everybody out there. Sorry that I wasn't
able to get on. I was traveling with my son
all over the Dakotas and Wyoming in that whole area.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I will tell you that. I will tell you the
same thing I tell all my other folks. Family comes first,
So anytime, yeah, nk it because eventually they're going to
become adults and go off and be living their own lives.
And they only see them on holidays and when they
deign to either invite you over or they come over.
So because trust me, I'm there with most of my children.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
Yeah, the truth. So it is. It's a great day today.
I'm very happy to be back. The opening music is
from Mosse Jackson and you're on Kayla or in radio
with us here right now in Korn's Reading Room, and
we are still on this incredible book, The Philosophy of Fire,

(04:20):
And for those of you who are interested in purchasing it,
I believe Rick will get some final link. Maybe if
it's available even to Bud.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'll put one appair. I have one and you get uloaded.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
But it's a Reverend R. Swinburne Climber, MD is the
author of this. He is a Rosie Crucian and a
bit of a health nut my understanding. And we left
off on page fifty four was last page we read.
We're on page fifty five. And again, for those of
you who are just tuning in, I don't read the

(04:57):
entire book. I just read little excerpts that I found
interesting that I highlighted, and then then we'll just you know,
kick around some thoughts and ideas about that. Let me
see if I can turn there.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, that's just just so you know, from our female listeners,
this is an actual quote I've gotten early not so
long ago. Every time you mentioned that you don't read
the entire book, a lot of our female listeners would
say they would sit here for hours listening, and you
read the phone book. So if you want to read
the whole thing, they.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Don't that's hilarious. It would it would. It would take
us probably sixteen not sixteen hours. This isn't the bill,
the big beautiful bill. It would take us too long
to read this whole thing. But but I at some

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point I am going to do a reading of my
book that I wrote for those of who are unfamiliar
with it. I've written a few books, but this one
Creating a Character for the Stage or Life, which is
on Lulu dot com. That's l u l u dot com.
Look up my ambial Read it. It's a book on
character development, both on stage and off. Hey, why not

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could all use a little character development, especially this guy?
Just ask my wife. So jumping right in, Yes, a
good one. Finally, there you are, Uh, Philosophy of Fire.
I highly suggest anybody get it, The Spiritual Life. It's
it's a great book. It's a it's a little thick,
it's a little heady, but uh it's it's an incredible

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read and I highly recommend it. So here we are
on the the chapter that is labeled the Initiatory Path.
It reads, whether he will or not the time will
come in a man's existence, It asked during one of
his incarnations, when he must choose between entering the path
leading to immortalization or pass into the limbo of the

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forgotten things. The first series step by the neophyte on
the path is to thoroughly search himself for the reason
which induced him to seek for hidden knowledge. When the
motive is actually evil, the path becomes dangerous to mind
and reason, and the penalty which must sooner or later
be paid by all who seek to direct the spiritual

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for material purposes. Once having entered the path, there is
no turning back. The law set into motion when the
vow is taken can either be retarded. It can neither
be retarded nor cease its forward movement. The internal urge,
the constant dissatisfaction with life, indicates that the law continues
to function and will, at some time or other force

(07:39):
the recreant acolyte to re enter the path and fulfill
the mission of his life. You know, just touching on
that real quick, it just makes me think. You know,
it's not that it's like a prerequisite for life for
any of us to be on some deep metaphysical journey.
It's just recommended in in some of these books, In

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many of these books, most of these books that that
I'll be getting into that we at least take into
account some type of higher motivation for what it is
that we're even doing here on this planet. And obviously
you also have to believe in in in the spiritual
universe and in some kind of grand architect of said

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universe and some kind of direct communication with said architect
and the universe, you know, And that kind of gets
into the Acascac Record, which is a really cool thing.
I guess some books on the Acascac Record will do
one of those down the road. But yeah, man, that's
a it's a great one. But you know, so it's

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recognizing that that you may be on a deeper path.
It doesn't necessarily mean that that that has to be
your your mainstay for your life, life's existence. But uh,
but I think that some kind of record ignition of it,
and some kind of application of of of deeper principles

(09:07):
and and and some type of you know, hopefully long
term moral fiber forms that that disallows us from from
going down the darker path of of the the lower nature.
And and just knowing this, I think it's cool just

(09:28):
because it just it just can change our relationship to life,
you know what, I mean, Rick can just kind of
change our relationship to two daily events you know well,
and and this.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Is one of the reasons why when you suggested this book,
I have to admit, this is not something that I
would have normally read, so you inviting me to participate
as actually, I mean, because I've read a lot of
philosophical books, this is just not one that ever hit
my radar. But this the whole point you're making of
realizing that even if you don't want to embark down
said philosophical path of you're obviously here for a reason,

(10:00):
or you wouldn't be here knowing that even as a potential,
can change, as you said, your entire outlook on everything
because you realize that it's not just about you. So
much of the world today revolves around making it just
about you. Please see John Diddy Combs as an example.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
Well he yeah, he's he's getting off on everything. He
got off on everything, and now he's getting off on everything.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Earned another. I mean he didn't, I mean, he didn't
completely get away with it. But yeah that that don't
even don't even get me started.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
It didn't for I know, that's a whole nother that's
a whole other podcast. But yes, I would take a
different Oh so, so I'll just go on and see where,
see where it takes us. So, the neophyte, accepting the
obligation and admitted into the mysteries, permits no successful retreat.

(10:58):
The sincere neophyte, who in his heart longs for the
better and more exalted life, will not permit himself to
be influenced by any person or thing. This desire must
be for wisdom and enlightenment. Within man, each one of
us are hidden all the passions of the animal kingdom.
Every animal known to man is represented within his being.

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Though these passions, sorry and the mysteries, but by all men.
Though these passions may be dormant in a man, they
are present, and sooner or later become aroused and must
be mastered by every human creature, or he will be
mastered by them. The carnal passions may be transmuted into

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the divine passion, the fires of the soul, which becomes
the illumination or mantle with which all initiates be clothed.
So essentially, I mean it's that having a moral compass
in some type of deeply rooted ethical structure to our
behavior and our interactions with our environment and the people

(11:59):
in our environment. That's it seems to me what he's
suggesting it. That's like basically the first step towards uh,
you know, this deeper, more more kind of spiritualized path
and uh. And that should be a given, I mean,
all of us should assume that we should be good
people in life and treat others like we would expect

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to be treated ourselves and so on. But I don't
be a given necessary. It should be a given, but
I don't necessarily think it is.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, I mean, and part of it is we have
such a there, there's such a humanistic movement now, which
is which is not anywhere near remotely the kind of
things that we're talking about, because as far as most
humanists concerned, we're here, we live, we die, that's it.
We disappear. Nothing else after us, nothing, nothing else happens.

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So and the problem with that is when you embrace
that mindset, then you start to live with the idea, well,
if I'm only here for eighty years, then who whatever
I do to whoever, it doesn't really matter because once
I'm gone, nobody's gonna be able to do anything about it. Anyway,
Nobody can hold me accountable. So it This is why
embracing the fact that you are at least some form

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of spiritual being becomes so important, because if you can't
do that, or you won't do that, then it pushes
you back into the physical or the carnal realms only.
And we've talked about that on this show before. How
much different your life is when you're focusing only on
the carnal and not the fact. I mean, whether you
want to believe that yahweh God is the ultimate answer

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or whomever, there is no disputing the fact that there
is something within us that science can barely explain, because
there's energy that lingers after we die, and nobody knows
where it goes once the body stops functioning. They just know,
I mean, and you know, matter can neither be created
nor destroyed, So however you look at it, something from
us will carry on into the future in one Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Absolutely, yeah. And and you know, just just touching on
what you just said, that that rings very true to me,
is that h that even if you're not in even
if you're not a spiritualist so to speak, or if
you if if you just believe in this kind of
one lifetime incarnation and then gone having having a you know,

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some kind of ethical spine. The energy that that it
releases doing the right thing, The energy that that we
get from from being good people. That that that energy
that comes to us from from good behavior, so to speak.
That's especially it's self induced. It can't be you know,
good behavior based on punishment or something else, because that's

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that's it might be good behavior, but it's not necessarily
rooted in you know, in in something deep. But but
that that just that energy alone, that positive vibe, that
energy that you get should be enough to realize that, hey,
that is a better choice to you know, take a
deeper path and enrich ourselves in a spiritual sense. Even

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if you don't believe in it, you'll get something.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Out of it.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well exactly. I mean, unless you're some form of sociopath.
When you do good things, you feel good about doing them,
even if it's just you know, one of the first
things that because you know, I occasionally have to counsel people,
one of the first things that I tell people that
are dealing with depression, whether it's through divorce, loss of
a loved one, et cetera, start by start your day
by doing something small so that you know you've accomplished something,

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even if it's just something as simple as getting a
brushing your teeth, combing your hair, and making your bed.
Make that your to do list for the first few days,
because then at least you're gonna get you're gonna get
something from feeling like you've at least done something instead
of just feeling like, oh, feeling like you've accomplished nothing.
And that's just it. When you do positive things, you
actually you I mean, your body reacts positively, You get endorphins,

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You feel better for a little bit, whether it's working out,
whether it's you know, helping other people, whatever the case
may be. You do things to help yourself and to
help others, and you get rewarded through chemical so that
your body releases. If you do things to hurt other people,
your body reduces other chemicals that make you feel kind
of crappy, unless you're just Associatdeah exactly. But so it

(16:21):
goes on.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
It goes on to say some of what we were
just talking about, you know, temptation following temptation is apt
to come his way within himself because he has set
forth to slay that is master the dragon, that he
may be, that he may, as a result, come into
possession of the dragon. He must keep pace or become
a slave instead of the master. The dragon in this

(16:42):
context is just an an analogy for the you know,
the lower nature and the and the energy that comes
with that that's taming the dragon. Are our our our,
our beast nature, so to speak. You know, so, it says.
While he is living the holy material, real life, these
forces remain dormant. To a large extent, his power is

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merely nominal. Once he arouses himself, he gradually awakens all
these hidden forces, and as he masters one after another,
his energies, forces, and powers increase, until finally, when he
has subdued and bent to his will all the denizens
within himself, he will possess the will and the powers
of the gods. And thus it is written that man

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shall become the master of the beasts of the field, etc.
Seeking within the innermost self for the hidden weaknesses which
are certain to be present, and which also must be
eliminated in order to become truly man, man know thyself.
Once man successfully accomplishes the search for wisdom, his mate
will be the divine Sophia or Wisdom incarnate you know again,

(17:51):
as I mean every single page in here, you could
sit here and talk about for almost an hour easily.
But this idea that while living this holy matter life,
the forces remain dormant to a large extent. When it
says that man shall become the master of the beasts
of the field, sort of this this kind of god
like man uh outcome. It's not like you know that

(18:13):
you're you're up there in a cloud just zapping lightning
bolts and flying all over the universe. It's not that's
that's not what this means in my understanding of it
is just that you become God conscious, which means you
have the full understanding of of everything you have at
your disposal, all the power you have at your disposal

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to create, to be a creator. I I I tend
to use even like the car as an example of
out of of alchemy and uh this this this magic
that we don't really perceive as being magic. You know,
the car, we just go to a gas station, we
throw some substance in it, it starts up, and we
drive off. But the combustible engine and and the use

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of gasoline alone, and the manufacturer of gasoline, and every
single part that's in that engine that had to be
manufactured and created and put together and then suddenly it animates.
You know, that in and of itself is the magic
that that I believe that this book is talking about,
is that we have the ability to tap into to
our creative forces that are beyond our ability to really

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grasp if we're not clued into them, and if we
are clued into them just out of the regular nature
of life, how some people are, they're just they're just
connected to to higher creative potentials. But if they're not
spiritually motivated, then the creations, as extraordinary and amazing as

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they may be, won't necessarily fully benefit the human race
and or the the individual who has manifested that creation
to benefit you know, the human race, so to speak,
may take a little bit more for themselves than say,

(20:08):
is necessary, you know, and that will then become not
a benefit as well. It's one of those weird things.
I know, I'm talking in circles, but it's just, you know,
we have a greed structure on this planet that is
just it's appalling, you know, to me personally, just how
unbelievably greedy individuals are and how much they just want

(20:31):
for themselves alone. And I just find that this book
is kind of suggesting the opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, I'm a firm believer. There's probably one of the
only reasons why I haven't managed to be able to
get rich yet, because I would actually try to help
other people with the money. Totally, man, it seems like
the only people that ever make it are the ones
that hoard it all. I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
Isn't that isn't that isn't that peculiar? It is a
peculiar outcome, it really is. So there is born within
the feeling longing and loneliness, which appears to fill the
entire being with sorrow. This is the prelude to the
awakening of the soul itself. In all of life, the
darkness must precede the light, as night does the day.
The neophyte must ultimately pass through this chamber of darkness

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where dwells the shadow. Every single soul must either pass
successfully through these experiences or lose it to personal identity.
Thinking is an art. Few really think for themselves. They
unconsciously accept the ideas of others, believing these to be
their own. Thoughts. The thoughts they do think are frequently
no more than the reactions of their own animal or

(21:38):
carnal passions, the appetites native to the physical body, or
as a result of the things they desire and not
the things they know to be to their benefit. You
know that just brings something up for me real quick too.
Is just the idea of being of just parroting information
you know that you glean from whichever source your you're

(22:00):
getting it from. Even what I'm doing now, you know,
has has that element of it to it. I mean,
do I really know much of this to be true?
Have I had any kind of real, authentic, experiential moment
that that would prove to me that what's in these
books you know, is relevant and truthful? I mean, I have,

(22:23):
you know, so I feel for myself personally, I can.
But what I what I'm getting to is that we
can become automatons in life if we're not careful. Because
all of the program when programming we're enduring from from
when we're born all the way up until present time,
we've all undergone a huge amount of programming that has

(22:45):
to be deprogrammed and shucked off in order to really
perceive clearly, what what do we believe, what do we
think might be true or false about reality? And and
when it comes especially to politics and religion, you know,
we get so indoctrinated that that all we do is
just parrot whatever it is that we've been told or

(23:08):
that we've we've looked up and read and whatever else.
And I think that there's a deeper level to that
that that even if somebody tells us oh, yeah, you know,
regarding politics. So so this bill is a great bill,
for instance, and then we say, oh, wow, that's that's
a source that I trust. I'm going to assume that
this is a great bill. And then other people are

(23:29):
going to hear from somebody and say, this is the
worst bill that's ever been introduced, you know, to Congress
and the history of the country. And then people go, hey, well,
this is the worst bill that anybody's ever introduced to
the history of the country. And then but as either
one of those people read the bill. I'm not saying
that I'm going to go and read a sixteen thousand
page bill. I'm probably not, but my you know, but
my point is is that you know, we we go

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ahead and just blindly parrot whatever we get from whatever
source we trust, without ever actually doing the work to
come to a conclusion of our own. And each one
of those people on either side of that bill, if
either one of those people read the bill, they would
probably both find themselves meeting in the middle and saying, wow,

(24:14):
you know whatever, sixty eighty percent of this I agree with,
This twenty percent I don't agree with and that might
be on either side, but both sides will come to
find Wow, there's stuff in here that I'm not against.
But so it's just, you know, I think that what
this is suggesting in this book so far is that
we have to read the bill in order to come

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to a real conclusion.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well, I mean, well part of it is. It's part
of the changing the programming. And it's interesting that you
brought that up because something occurred to me the other
day when I was going through some notes from one
of the previous broadcasts we did, because we started talking
about frequencies. Yeah, man, And if you ever looked into
the research behind frequencies and some of the conspiracy theories
about what they do with frequencies with TVs and music

(25:02):
and movies and everything, because it's it's like they have
figured it, because there's apparently certain frequencies that may or
may not activate some of the very things that we're
talking about, and some of the people in charge know
of these things, and they use the opposite frequencies to
make sure that we never get them. Which is interesting
because you find a lot of the people that have

(25:23):
managed to find the cheat codes in life are the
ones that don't really access very many of those things,
generating those very frequencies.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
That often yeah, totally and and and it's it's one
of the things I mean, I was just thinking about
this earlier today, you know, just about the effect that
music can have on us.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
And you know, when you tune into those frequencies, they
become part of your frequency and and it becomes part
of the energy that you give off. So if you're
you know, if you're if you're all about you know,
the gangster rap, so to speak, and that whole entire
world and that you know, I know, the lyrics go

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along with it, and the music and the and the
eight o eight bass and all of that. Eventually, a
a frame of mind is going to morph out of
that that is in agreement with the the gangster rap.
Same thing with like you know, heavy metal or whatever,
when they had the whole Satanic panic of the eighties,

(26:22):
and everybody's worried about, you know, their kids becoming Satanists
because they're listening to Iron Maiden or Kiss or whoever else.
And if you.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Ever Iron Maiden record backwards, oh.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
My god, I listen. I was a huge Iron Maiden
fan when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I didn't become a Satanist.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
But but yeah, you know, we can be we we
we we can adopt you know, the vibe that the
music we listened to is giving off and it can
become part of our personality. That's that's the only meaning
I have on that. It's I think it's a you know,
I've been listening to a lot of just flute music lately,
Like that's what I have My Pandora set off and
is just like flute music. And I went through and

(27:02):
I found a bunch of different artists. So I got
Native American flute, I got some Indian flute in there,
I got some you know, some some Celtic flutes. I
got all.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
So each song that plays like a different type of
I think a flute song, and it's it's just I.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Might have a very similar playlist because especially the wood flutes,
like the celt and the wood flutes, how it.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
Makes you feel it's very cool, you know, it's very
interesting that the difference in the vibration that that comes from.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I've always kind of wondered if it's not a genetic
thing because I am part Native American and part Irish,
which is Celtic descent. So I'm just wondering if maybe
something in those things is actually speaking to my genetics
or something, because I will admit it completely changes my
move when I turned that stuff on, And even some
of my family is like, dude, you're nuts. You listen
to this stuff all the time. I'm like, dude, it
helps me relax. I know, it's so relaxing, that's just it.

(27:56):
And we were talking about it before we started the show.
I'd go NonStop, so occasionally you have to turn something
on just to make my mind stop, because yeah, and
the and that's kind of what that does. But it
but it also it like it changes my entire outlook
the music that I'm listening to because I am a
musical person. I actually used to I used to lead ah,

(28:17):
I used to be the music director in a small church.
So I am a m I am a musical person,
but the music I'm listening to can change my entire mood.
Like if I'm like especially if it's like gonna be
a busy, busy work day, I'm not gonna lie. The
first thing I usually turn on is something like move, bitch,
get out the way, because it gets going. I don't

(28:38):
really know why, but it's funny because it's funny. The
other day on my show, when the whole big beautiful
build stuff was going on, I Keim Jefferies was doing
his speech, so I started mixing that in and one
of the guys that was watching on the feed says,
you know, this is the first song on my five
K playlist. If you've ever run a five K you'll
know why. It's like, yeah, I kind of get it.
I got to get up and get going song too,

(29:00):
so but yeah, And then I had a little bit
more fun with it because he started talking about the
Impossible Dream of America and everything else. So I did
this live mix of dream the Impossible Dream while he
was talking, because.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
I love that and we should dream the Impossible Dream.
It goes on here in this chapter. The path demands
and leads to concentration, centralization, to mastery of thought, and
the power to create new ideas and hold to them
until manifestation results. The mind, awakening from its centuries of

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inertia and confused confusion, attempts to bring order out of chaos,
only to find the din too great for the first efforts.
As continued effort is made, there is brought about the
separation of the orderly from the disorderly. Each is placed
into its own niche or sphere of action, and order
is established. The mind, the constructive, must be separated from

(29:57):
the destructive. The destructive either eliminated or made constructive. When
order is brought about, there will come new thoughts, new ideas,
and new mental images of things to be accomplished or achieved.
The awakening of the mind is the baptism of jawn
by water. The baptism of the spirit by fire will
follow later if effort is continued. Once the mind has

(30:19):
become awakened and aroused to new consciousness, there is brought
into existence the mental ability to visualize a new world.
Then man begins to look within his own soul. His
image forming faculties grow stronger, mental visions present themselves before
the inner eye and realized in the external world. He
comprehends as a fact that he has the power to

(30:41):
bring something new and desirable into physical manifestation. This is
the path of knowledge. Only he who has thoroughly cleansed
his temple may be entirely free from disturbing visions, the
evils which beset their minds and desires during the waking hours.
As the first duty, there is the cleansing of the temple,
all the legendary ogian stable, as did the Nazarene cleanse

(31:05):
the temple of robbers, thieves and money changers of his time.
You know what gets me on this rick is is
the you know, the idea that we we tend to.
It seems like that that humanity tends to pooh pooh
the the the incredible advancements that we've achieved in life,

(31:26):
as far as technic technology is concerned, for sure, or
even architecture or uh new and usable materials. It's the
you know, it's this vision. This when we when we
become inspired, when we're in when we're in a state
of inspiration and we have a great idea, you know,

(31:48):
or at least if we think it's a great idea,
and if we don't manifest that, if we don't try
to manifest that, then we're we're not we're not engaged
and the creative, you know, it's it's it's really cool
to think that. Again with the car it's really cool
to think that somebody, whether it was just horse and carriages,

(32:10):
somebody sat there and thought, I wonder how I could
manipulate metallurgy and create certain functioning shapes and sizes of
things and combine them together and add a flammable solution
to it and contain the explosions so that it doesn't

(32:32):
get out of control and chaotic, and then move this
cart without the use of a horse and then be able.
I mean, if you if anybody's ever looked at an engine,
I mean, if you really look at it, it's like,
what is this thing? What is what are all these
what are those things going up? The pistons going up
and down? At this all this mechanical the mechanical nature

(32:53):
of just the engine alone is mind blowing to me.
And the fact that that you know that that was
manifested out of out of the imagination of a of
a man or men or women or whoever you know.
And then and then by imagining it first, you know,
it was pure imagination, then they could test a few

(33:14):
things out in physical reality to see if what they
imagine is it can be applied and accomplished in reality.
And when it suddenly proves that it can be, I mean,
the airplane, for God's sake, what is that thing doing
up there? It doesn't make much sense, you know, when
it comes to physics, the weight and all of that.
But also with ships, with these great battleships and cruisers

(33:36):
and all of that, the weight, the weight, it shouldn't
be able to float when you you know what I mean,
just when you look at it, like, how is that
thing even floating? You know? But it's it's it's through
the design obviously, and the and the the pockets of
air that are contained within the ship that keep it buoyant.
But but the point is is that I don't I

(33:59):
don't think any of us should frown upon our own
creative potential or tendencies, no matter what that is. And
and that if you are inspired to do to create
something or to alter the way that something is done
for the better, or to you know, introduce you know,

(34:21):
something new to something old that makes it work better
or seem better or whatever. I mean. I believe we
just got to go for it, you know, we got
to go for it in some way, shape or form, uh,
because humankind wouldn't be humankind if we didn't have that
kind of inspiration. You know, r I'm not hearing you.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
There we go. Sorry, I had to jump over on
another feed for a second. Forgot the mute. No sweat
but anyway, So, but no, part of what I have
I've been talking about for a long time in this
same vein is I think part of the problem is, like, no,
we look at the engine today and we marvel at
its complexity. Nobody realizes that it was. It didn't just

(35:08):
it wasn't just an overnight thing. It took lots of
trial and error and figuring things out and putting things
where they win, and will this work there? Will this
work there? Which should we put this here? Oh, we
probably need to put some sort of lubricant in here
so things don't just freeze up on us all the time.
So it was. It was a very long drawn out,
meticulous process. One of the things that drives me the
most crazy about people's creative side is you have the

(35:31):
people that can just automatically do it. They're like they
learn to sing by ear, etc. And they're amazing at
it and all these things. But then you have the
people that have to learn to do it, and the
people that have to learn to do it get so
frustrated because you've got the people that, to their perspective,
just poop things out and they're amazing. I'm like, you
don't know how much time it took for them to

(35:52):
learn how to do those things. That's like the stuff
that I do now. I've been doing this for seventeen years.
It sounded like trash when I first started. My first
podcast was so bad. A partner of mine, we spent
the entire next episode making fun of how horrible it was.
After we were that's how bad it was. If there's
something that helps spark your creative juices, whatever it is,

(36:16):
as long as you're not doing anything too weird, no judgment,
Just embrace it, use it, don't worry that it's not
perfect at first. We have this huge problem in America
and even humanity in general, of always making perfect be
the enemy of the good, because good is good enough

(36:36):
until you can get it perfect, and perfect doesn't just happen.
All these people that you see do all these amazing
things every day. They have spent hours your favorite rock
stars just since we're going to go back to music
for a second, you don't know how many years they
spent playing hole in the wall clubs before somebody finally
realized who they were and they're like, oh, these guys
are pretty good. Because to you, they're an overnight success

(36:59):
because you I just found out about them. They've been
doing it for twenty.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
Years, right right totally. And then and also i'd say
that when you were just talking about that, you know,
the world needs engineers too. You know, I'm not saying
that somebody has to invent something new, but if you
can come to understand how that invention works and learn
how to maintain it, that's that's a that's almost just

(37:26):
as big of a deal, because if there's not somebody
out there who can come to understand what the creation
is and how to maintain the creation and keep the
creation going, then the creation will stop eventually, Yeah, we'll
stop creating itself.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
In the world we are creating today, Engineers will become
some of the most important people that we have because
they're going to be the ones keeping all the robots
running while we figure out what we're going to do.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Oh God, oh Lord of Mercy. Not the robot world.
But it says right here in the book, on page
sixty to one, where we're at it says all things
must exist first in the imagination. Is not the universe
itself a product of the imagination of God? May we
not be gods in our own inner world, able to

(38:09):
create forms from which apparently does not exist, forms which
apparently do not exist. Yet gradually, as man finds himself,
he beholds within his inner world yet another world with
space as infinite as that of the outer world, and
mountains and plains, with oceans and rivers, with creatures who
look up to him as their god, because he has

(38:30):
become the master. The next step in the path is
to be able to close the senses and the desires
of the material world, thereby giving the spiritual desires and
opportunity to be felt. No vision is possible, nor will
the spiritual sight be opened to the neophyte unless he
first has learned, through long training and concentration, to silence

(38:52):
the senses and passions of the mortal self. The neophyte
takes the teacher's word for all he may teach him,
but he cannot know unless the inner perceptions, the very soul,
feels and senses that it is so from the inner being,
the spiritual self, and through personal experience alone can knowledge
and understanding be gained. To feel is to know, To

(39:14):
suffer is to know, To create is to know. To
merely see may be a delusion. It is only he who,
through training and right living, living the life that is taught,
has been enabled to awaken the still small voice the
inner being, can understand spiritual truths. And then this part
I'll jump into. Someone say, beware of passion and evil desires,

(39:37):
avoid erroneous opinions and intellectual prejudices. Keep the mind continually
directed toward the divine source of all existence. Strive after
a continual realization of the presence of the Supreme, and
in the desire to walk the path of light to immortality.
Do not forget even for a moment, that you are

(39:57):
living in the consciousness of Him whose power has created
the world you know. And this again just goes.

Speaker 8 (40:06):
To this, this this idea that that as creative beings
we we are tapped into the source of of of
all that is created.

Speaker 7 (40:18):
And I think that when we get into it in
some other episode down the road with the Akashak Record,
it's this in in in the Hindu religion, the the
Akashak record is this bandwidth of information that the universe stores.
And it's all information. It's all it's everything that's ever
occurred in the past, uh, and everything that could potentially

(40:40):
occur in the future, and all things that are happening
in present time. And that the the suggestion by by
the Hindus is that the Akashic record is where we
glean all of this, all of our information from when
we're in a creative state.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
We si out the gasoline can make an engine go.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
Exactly. Yeah, one that it's all out there. That you
know that that all it is is about tapping into
it and uh and and then into it ing you
know what it is that that may make a difference
in life. And and this goes down to you know,
right action, right behavior, right communication as well. Uh. We

(41:22):
are a very reactive race, a very reactive creature. You know,
the human is and you can tell just by looking
at you know, at the timeline of the human race
since history first started being recorded. I don't know if
anywhere on planet Earth there has ever been three hundred

(41:44):
and sixty five days without a war going on. I
don't know. I mean maybe pre Deluvian, you know, maybe
ancient Atlantean times. I have read some stuff that suggests
that in the in the Atlantean days, that that that
there there was no war, there was no murder, there
was no none of these things. That the law was

(42:05):
was was strict, and people lived by the law because
they wanted to, not because they had to. And that
that through whatever whatever cataclysm, that world was destroyed and
humanity is where it is today. But you know, just

(42:26):
just the the idea that we can change our internal
relationship with others and with life, to me, is a
really big deal. That we aren't these pre programmed automatons
that are incapable of growth or change. That we're just

(42:49):
going to be whoever were programmed to be. And that's it.
And that happens a lot in life, you know, rick
it just does. People just tend to this is just
how it is, how I am, This is just the
nature of things, and this is just how it's going
to be. So get used to it. You know, that's
a very lazy There's.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Two halves to humanity though. You've got the spiritual side,
and then you've got the flesh side, And the flesh
side is in fact a creature of habit. The flesh
wants what it wants, when it wants it, and it
wants everything that it can to be made comfortable. So
we do fall into routine, especially if we are not
exercising our creative sides or our ability to tap into

(43:28):
whatever is out there besides us. Because I did it,
I will freely admit, just a couple of years before
my last divorce, I was just going through the motions.
About the only time I ever felt like I was
being me was when I was doing things like this.
The rest of the time, I was just a lump
because I didn't have any motivations to do anything. And

(43:50):
it's just one of those things where occasionally, you know,
you just you do start to feel like you are
a bit of an automaton because you're doing everything that
you think you're supposed to do. But that takes a
lot of your time, and.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
Yeah, it totally does. I mean, that's I think that's
kind of the way that the system has been rigged is,
you know, is to keep us on the call on
the wheel of life, you know, to keep us to
keep us in that that on the hamster wheel running
so fast that we never have time to figure out
that we're in a cage and how to get.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
And unfortunately, I think, and you know, not trying to
take this too politically, but I think a lot of
that is control because the people that have figured out
how to get out of those cages, they don't want
us to get out to.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
And no, yeah, I dig what you're saying. Yeah, I
mean that's there's uh. I think that there is there
is a a group of individuals out there who are
very powerful, who who do understand the path towards this
that that that kind of uh feeling of freedom, but
but they're using it to their benefit and enslaving everyone

(44:55):
else so that no one else can can can reach
that that level. And that means that those individuals are
using the term loosely demonic, you could.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Say, I mean, definitely do not have good intentions. So
but yeah, I know, it's just interesting to think about
because I mean it's like I said, I do a
conspiracyment show. Every couple of weeks, which is where we
kind of touch on this kind of stuff, and then
I come to this one with you, where it's more
of like a heartfelt approach at looking at it. And
I mean, there are a lot of things about all

(45:26):
of this that makes sense when you really stop and
think about it, because, and we've talked about it multiple
times on this show, no matter which faith you look at,
they all have the same kind of stuff. And then
going back to the whole the time of Atlantis, Atlantis
being what we think it is would explain so many
things because there are so many architectural similarities around the

(45:48):
rest of the world that should not have been able
to happen unless there was some sort of a central influence,
and I have often believed that that was, in fact Atlantis.
I don't know what the Atlanteans did to take off
the rest of the planet, or if there was just
some sort of a cataclysm, or maybe somebody that was
trying to come to power said yeah, we can't do
it without these guys because they keep the peace and

(46:08):
we don't want that. I don't know, but yeah, it's
just the more things that I think I have come
to understand, the more questions I am left with that.
That's part of ay. I enjoy doing this stuff because
every time, every time at least the more questions.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
Totally, and just going back to what we just read,
you know, it says here it is only he who,
through training and right living, living the life that is taught,
has been enabled to awaken the still small voice the
inner being, can understand spiritual truth. Beware of passion and
evil desires, avoid erroneous opinions and intellectual prejudices. Keep the

(46:46):
mind continually directed toward the divine source of all existence.
You know, just when we can quiet ourselves down enough
to hear that subtle voice, which I believe is just
our higher self, you know that the true authentic spiritual being,
that that's that's within that's clouded by all of this

(47:08):
other crap that that you know that the mind, uh,
we become fixated on in the in the mental plane,
you know. So you can look at us different planes
of existence. You obviously have the physical, which is right there.
You have the emotional, and then you have the mental,
and then you have the spiritual. You know, so the
psychological then the spiritual, because emotional, when we're driven by emotion,

(47:31):
we tend to on most occasions not make the best decisions,
you know, because we're emotionally reacting to something and and
and being emotionally sensitive of course is extremely important. But
filtering that emotional sensitivity through through through a a functioning

(47:52):
metaphysical universe that is sane and calculated and and and
and operating on a higher plateau, so to speak, is
the is the better option?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I think, well, if you said the key when we
are in our emotions, we are reactive, when we are
controlling our emotions, still able to and still able to
appreciate other people's emotions, et cetera. But allowing the filter
of logic to keep us from being reactive, we become anticipatory,
which allows us to stay ahead of whatever may be

(48:28):
causing us enough angs to make us emotional, whether it's
a positive emotion or a negative emotion, because sometimes even
the good emotions can be too bad. It can be
a bad thing if you let them overwhelm you. And
this is this is what leads to the problems with
like addiction and things like that, because your body starts
releasing chemicals that make you feel really really good, and
you start craving them. And when you crave them and

(48:50):
you don't feel like you can get them enough, you
start doing whatever you have to do to be able
to get those things. So again, everything has to be
in balance. The very thing that we've been talking about
pretty much since you've started doing this show has to
be a balance. You can't really go too far one
way or the other. I do find it interesting that
the line you just quoted is basically I think George

(49:12):
Lucas stold that as the Jedi mantra, because it's a
very it's very it's very akin to something I read
in a Star Wars book once, and I'm like, either
Lucas stole that or the author did.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
And just.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
It's very similar.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
Yeah, I could get in the weeds on that too.
I'm gonna I'm gonna try and get us through this
chapter here so we can pick up next time on
the next chapter. Let's see if I can actually get
through a good amount without stopping, because there's so many
interesting bits in here to talk about. The next step
is to come into an understanding of the laws of
nature and a comprehension that nothing within her is dead,

(49:53):
that all forms are manifestations of the one universal source
of life, learn to know the cause of physical phenomena
occurring in the world of phenomena, the nature of light
and heat, sound and force, and the spirit that is life.
The neophyte must seek to solve the mystery of his
spiritual nature and the laws governing his being, chief among
which are karma and reincarnation, generation and regeneration. He should

(50:17):
know how the human nomad and the divine spark, again
and again descends to take upon itself a physical form,
and in each incarnation on earth, tries its utmost to
build the personality into an individuality, the worm of the
earth into a god, a mere human creature into a
real man, fully endowed with the manhood with which God

(50:38):
intended all men to be possessed. Constantly beyond guard to
exclude all evil thoughts and desires which naturally and continually
seek to enter the mind and become part of the soul.
He will learn that these and other enemies of the
soul may be kept from the sacred portals if his
aspirations be for things deeper and higher than the mere
gratification of the sensual appetites and acquisition of material possessions,

(51:01):
or the desirability of any corporeal form, however pleasing, it
may be to the eye that he must not permit
these things to enslave him under any circumstances. He who
has not been attempted cannot know the power of temptation.
The man who has never descended into the lower caves
of the supreme Temptress finds it difficult to comprehend the
mysteries of the spiritual self. Should the temptress gain entrance

(51:26):
during unguarded moments, he must be prepared to call to
his aid the superior forces of his awakened and ever
guarding will to repel the undesired intruder. The Temptress does
not come upon us unannouncing sorry. The temptress does not
come upon us announcing her intentions with a blair of trumpets,
but in silence. When all appears well, Few men actually

(51:49):
know their own weakness, who have not descended into the
depths of their own souls, where, unknown to themselves, they
may find it infested with poisonous serpents and venomous rep
symbols of the brood of passions and spirits of all
evil desires call to their aid. The divine Sophia, the
spirit of wisdom, These evils and weaknesses will be discarded.

(52:10):
The neophyte will be brought into a full realization that
whatever he does or thinks will eventually produce a corresponding reaction,
both upon himself and upon all things with which he
is allied or connected. The principal work of the neophyte,
aside of self purification and the transmutation of the carnal
into the immortal, is the cultivation of all the powers

(52:33):
and forces of his being. He must open up, as
it were, the inner fountain of knowledge and wisdom gained
during many incarnations. Finally, the neophyte must gain a clear
comprehension that there is no relative good without relative evil.
There is no man so pure as not to harble
carnal elements within his being. There may be none, thus

(52:53):
free man there being none. Thus free man advances spiritually
by means of the transmutation of the carnal elements within him,
by the burning up of the undesirable, and spiritual self
gained light, and the spiritual self gains light. So basically
I mean getting what I'm getting from this, I only

(53:14):
have a couple more paragraphs left. Actually, let me just
knock this out real quick not to destroy anything, but
to make use of the elements of evil to bring
about good is the object of the alchemical process employed
by the initiate and master. When the higher self begins
to awaken within the light of the spirit penetrates into
regions of the carnal elements, an animal ego must begins

(53:34):
to revolt and interfere with the efforts made. These evils
may even manifest an objective form as the legendary terror
of the Threshold, the product of man's imagination, colored by
the evils within which have not as yet been transmuted
and may readily be dispelled by the exalting of the
thoughts and desires and the exertion of the will. The

(53:56):
warning of the Nazarene when ye stand take heed less
key fall, you know, I think that is just in
the sense of having some type of warnings. I don't
think that he means that you have to. You know,
the utilization of evil or carnal desires is not what

(54:16):
is meant by here when they say you know for good.
I think that what is meant by that is knowing
and understanding that that the carnal desires, the lower nature,
and the destructive tendencies exist, and it's the same power
and force that can create destruction as the same power
and force that can create creation. And it's a matter

(54:38):
of using that force which creates both, otherwise both couldn't exist.
Is using that that elemental force of nature, that the
creative force for the good. So I mean, for instance,
they say, you know something destructive that someone may perceive
it as evil. Let's say that you know that there

(54:58):
is you know, a dam that's been built. It's blocking
all of the water from going downstream, and that there's
that they're they're about to lose a whole bunch of
of of of animals and plant life and different things
that survived off of the river that used to naturally
flow down there, and the fish and all of the things.

(55:19):
And so you know, an executive decision is made to
destroy the dam, but the dam supplies the water and
the electricity for the local town, and they don't want
either of those things gone. But in the long run,
the destruction of the dam is more beneficial to our
environment than the keeping of the dam. And other technological

(55:40):
advances and other means of accessing the water can be
created in order to supplement that. So what I'm so,
what I'm just getting at is that sometimes destructive actions
must take place, like the tearing down of an old
house to build a new house, the tearing down of
a wall in a house to expand a bedroom, the whatever,

(56:00):
you know. So some some destructive actions are creative in
the long run. And I think that's also what's kind
of meant by this is that we that that we
we have to be aware that some destructive tendencies are
beneficial if they're done for the right reasons.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Basically, well, I mean, even everything that we're talking about
right now, I'm granted, more in the spiritual realm of
things is about the tearing away of the old and
the rebuilding of the new. So the tearing away of
the old, especially if you don't especially if someone is
trying to help you through it and you don't quite
understand it very well to you, that can seem like
a very destructive process because it's ripping away everything that

(56:39):
you know, and it's it's eventually being replaced with new things.
So I mean, and I think that's exactly what they're
talking about, is there are times when destruction and what
is sometimes perceived as evil can actually be used for good.
But it's also kind of a misperception because the the
same thing happens in like boot camp and everything else.
They basically they strip you down, they rebuild you, and

(57:01):
they put you back together in the image that they
need you to be to be able to, you know,
to steal the Army slogan, be all you can be.
So it's kind of the same thing at a spiritual level.
But when you're going through that, the people that are
training you to do it, they understand that if they
can keep you on the path, you're going to come
out basically exactly how they need you to be. But

(57:22):
you as the individual going through it, you know, is
speaking to my aunt and my uncle and my brother
that have all gone through boot camp, and I myself
having gone through through the police academy, I understand the
concept because it's kind of terrifying at first because you
don't understand why they're making you do the things that
you that they're making you do. But the things that

(57:44):
they're making you do can eventually lead to habits that
will help you save your life doing the things that
they're going to need you to do. So I kind
of get the idea of tearing away the old to
rebuild the new, because it happens all over the place.
I mean, honestly, it happened. Yeah, it happens pretty much
every time you take a new job, because a new
company is not gonna even if it's the same type

(58:05):
of job, a new company is not gonna want you
doing things exactly the way the old company did. So
they have to strip away some of what you've learned
and teach you the new stuff. And there is a
bit of destruction versus creation going on in there, in
a much smaller scale, I will admit, but it still exists.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
Yeah, and and yeah, just to wrap that up, I
know we're here on the on the cutting edge, and
it's a perfect time to wrap it up. But I
think I I was just thinking, you know, yes, it's
it's it can be a scary, uh, a scary experience.
I mean, even for myself personally, even in present time,
going through you know, attempting to go through a spiritual
transition where uh where where I'm no longer associating with

(58:44):
the with the old korynemic, with the guy that you know,
grew up in Hollywood and and life life was all easy.
Everything was you know, served on a silver platter and
all those things, and it's just, you know, it's it's
easy to to just stay that same old dude, you know,
who's been living a certain way of life for for

(59:07):
so long that it just seems like the only way.
But it's not true. And there is a kind of
a fear based underlying element to losing oneself. But but
to me, it's it's not it's not the real it's
not the real self. It's not the real me. It's
not the real you know, it's it's all programmed crap

(59:28):
that can easily be discarded and gotten rid of, and
what's left is just it's just the shining spiritual vehicle
that that the rest of everything is is is, you know,
is under I know we're the one hour mark. Thank
you Rick again for for this opportunity to have fun
and and do this, uh this little jammy. We'll get

(59:49):
back into the next chapter next Sunday. I'll see you all. Then.
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And I encourage you guys to start a little game
that I have found. I have now started to see
where all I can find mister Nimmick. I recently found
him on a YouTube. The thing is Patrick Captain. I
was surprised, but yeah, all right, stay tuned for the
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