December 15, 2025 • 47 mins
In this sixth installment of Corsi Nation’s investigative series, Cregg Lund joins Dr. Jerome Corsi to examine what he describes as the hidden ideological power structures beneath Silicon Valley—a world Lund explores through his novel Silicon Satan.
Lund explains how his book uses fictionalized storytelling to reflect experiences and observations tied to elite tech culture, including secretive belief systems, underground influence networks, and teachings he argues are designed to undermine traditional values and the nuclear family. The discussion connects these themes to broader cultural shifts, corporate power, and the social engineering shaping modern life.
🔥 Topics Covered
The ideology Lund says operates beneath Silicon Valley’s public image
Allegations of secret rituals and belief systems used to consolidate power
How culture, tech, and influence intersect behind closed doors
The role of narrative, fiction, and symbolism in exposing hidden systems
Why the nuclear family is a recurring target in modern ideological movements
Silicon Satan is presented as a fictionalized account intended to illuminate patterns of influence and provoke critical thinking about the unseen forces shaping technology, culture, and governance.
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Lund explains how his book uses fictionalized storytelling to reflect experiences and observations tied to elite tech culture, including secretive belief systems, underground influence networks, and teachings he argues are designed to undermine traditional values and the nuclear family. The discussion connects these themes to broader cultural shifts, corporate power, and the social engineering shaping modern life.
🔥 Topics Covered
The ideology Lund says operates beneath Silicon Valley’s public image
Allegations of secret rituals and belief systems used to consolidate power
How culture, tech, and influence intersect behind closed doors
The role of narrative, fiction, and symbolism in exposing hidden systems
Why the nuclear family is a recurring target in modern ideological movements
Silicon Satan is presented as a fictionalized account intended to illuminate patterns of influence and provoke critical thinking about the unseen forces shaping technology, culture, and governance.
👉 Learn more about the book: https://www.siliconsatan.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Your angelus.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Of course, this drone course, and we have Craig lundback
with us. Craig is the author of Silicon Satan, which
Chris will show you on the screen as we go along,
and also our website courseenation dot com. Craig has a
(00:23):
section on the website. It's devoted to his work. He's
posting a new novel in sections and starting to do animations.
It's quite good. We'll show you that in a second.
But welcome Craig. It's good to have you back.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's good to be you.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And Silicon Satan, Satan's book Craig started. We've been working
on this for six or seven years. I mean, it
seems like forever. It was not an easy book, not
an easy book to write. Now, I mean, if this
is essentially Craig's life story fictionalized, and Craig was a
(00:58):
top top engineer and solicon Valley and got to experience
the satanic side of Silicon Valley and then managed to
find God an escape which is remarkable. And the novel
is the journey into darkness and then out of darkness
in Silicon Valley. Now we're showing you here on the website.
(01:19):
You can see here Chris is now showing you there's
the scroll down you see the Silicon Valley section, and
there's new work on this. There's new work that has
not been published except on the website. And this is
Where's Wally Part two. This is part of the new novel.
And as you go into the section itself, you click
into it and you get additional material because you can
(01:41):
see that there's archived material inside. And as you get
inside it, if it's scrolled down, you'll see various of
the cameos and special sections in Silicon Satan which are
covered and they're very interesting, I really and new animations
are coming onto these. If you kind of click one
(02:02):
of the animations that you can see how they're really fascinating. Uh.
And there's quite a lot of material in here, So
I think you're going to get deeply into it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I want to. What we've been doing in these podcasts
is to kind of dissecting the story in analyzing it,
because it's a kind of a dark story of someone
who is, you know, inducted into the rituals of Satanic
activity that define the top of Silicon Valley. Now, Craig,
(02:36):
you're not saying everybody in Silicon Valley is a Satanist. Correct.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Correct, And again there's a distinction between Eliziferians and the Satanists.
They don't Elithiferians don't call themselves Satanists. They don't. They
don't consider it Satanic ritual what they're doing. They consider it. Ah, well,
they're they're religion. But I just wanted to make that
distinction that that they don't they don't see themselves as that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
In other words, they don't get they're evil. They consider
they are following what the the ruler of this space?
I mean, how do they how do they conceptualize it? Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, they well, they they consider their god, Lucifer to
be uh the true God, the good God, the good guy,
the guy that's that's out the safe humanity, and that
our god is the bad God. He's the one who
tricked Adam and Eve in the garden and Lucifer is
going to get us back there. That's that's the basic
(03:30):
of their belief. And uh, they find the Satanists useful
because they can blame everything on the Satanist when everything
anytime anything goes bad, they just blame the Satanists. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But but yet the rituals are I mean, they're rituals
are quite evil in terms of pedophilia, the sexual rituals
they go through.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And yeah, yeah they are. They're very they're to us,
they're very evil to them, they're not to them, they're
they're fun.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, group sex and drugs and orgies and killing people
on stage and dramatic way to heighten everybody's sexual intensity.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And that's just the build up, right, And so so
the goal the goal of these like stuff orgies and
stuff isn't isn't sexual gratification. It's it's it's there's something
going on there. There's a purpose to it. There's a
spiritual purpose to it. And Alester Crowley's when it kind
of opened up all this sex magic, sex power. So
they use that to get to whatever they're trying to
(04:33):
get to. So the build up isn't The build up
is to I mean all the stuff that we hear about,
all this the satanic stuff that we hear about, that's
just the build up to to to what what they
ultimately want to do.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And what do they ultimately want to do?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, it depends a lot of time they're doing uhh,
knowledge transfers or they're getting there, they're gaining knowledge somehow.
I never you know, I never really got high enough
to where I was going to those rituals. You know,
I would have had to stuck it out a lot
longer and done a lot worse things I'd already done.
But I knew enough about what was going on. I
knew how they were, you know, or they put spells
(05:12):
on people, and they put spells on groups of people,
they would, you know, whatever it is they wanted to do.
Everything is very ritual oriented, very ritual centric. Everything has
to be and that's and that's part of their religion,
and it's sort of a copy of of what you
know of the truth. You know, we we you know,
our religion, our worship is very important and we we
(05:33):
do certain rituals as well. Well. They just they do
ritual They have their rituals, but they do them a
lot more and there they're on the other side, well,
and they're dark rituals.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean, you get. One of the aspects that Craig
is doing is also interpreting some of the current events
in terms of the satanic nature the or the Luciferian
nature of what's going on. You know, this one that
impressed me the most is this red sky thing. And
so you know, when you hear someone who's committed suicide
in Hollywood, it may not actually be a suicide. And
(06:07):
that would they want to explain that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Especially if they're hanging themselves on a doorknob with a
red scarf. That's why it's called the red scarf suicide.
That used to be I don't see it that much anymore,
but that used to be a message. We just off
this guy and uh be careful, this is this is
what happens. But I just I just put out an
article about Gene Hackman. They kind of did the same
thing that, you know, the humiliation thing to him. I
(06:29):
suspect I don't know. I wasn't following him, but I
suspect he was going rogue. You know, these you know,
old old guys go, you know, the conscience starts to
bother them after a while, and they want to they
want to spill the beans. They want to come out
and get it off their chest and go die peaceful.
And I think he was about to do that. And
not only did they kill him, but they made him.
They stole his legacy. You know, now we all are
going to remember Gene Hackman as some old guy who
(06:51):
died in uh rat infested ah squalor, and that that's
a message just like the Red Scarf suicides, the risk
off murders, that's a message to everybody else do a
what he did. We'll do this to you too.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, And there's no out of this. You don't get
out of this. You once you're into it. It's your your, your,
your your, you know. The where you sign is your
life away to this Luciferian dedication and there's no escape
from it without ruin.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Exactly, yeah, right exactly. And see. Uh then in the
article I kind of spell I kind of point out
that the old actors when when when the Lexaparians first
infiltrated Hollywood, the old actors, the old movie stars, you know,
rose to fame and fortune and position, and they were hard,
they became hard to handle. They were they were going road.
(07:47):
So that's what's why you see this new breed of
of actors in Hollywood. Now. They're a lot easier to
control their there very easy to control of the matteract
So but you know, the Gene had generation. He was
ninety five years old. And you know, I've found a
picture of him at ninety five, and he look pretty
good for ninety five. But the picture that they're putting
(08:07):
out makes them look old in the crepit and de minted,
and they're doing that on purpose. Now I'm not I don't,
I don't really know Gene happened. I mean, I'm a fan,
I guess. But you get to the point when I got
to the point where where I've seen this stuff for
so long now that it's really easy for me to
just to spot now, and it's it's hard to explain,
it's really it's very easy to spot.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So if you are not you can live a normal
life and work in Silicon Valley and never be part Luciferians.
But if you want to rise to the top, want
to hit the big time, you're.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Going to have to join the cult, right And if
you've noticed, especially these days, the Luciferians, some people call
him Illuminati, some people call him the Jews. You know,
it's all the same group. They have infiltrated every institution
on planet. So no matter what where you are, if
you want to ge to the top, you're gonna probably
(09:01):
if you have to go through the rituals. At this point,
I'm pretty much convince if you want to get top
of anything. I even see it. I mean, I'm even
starting to see it in this podcasting world. It's it's
there's a lot of money in it now and when
the money comes to Luciferians show up.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, okay. I want to go into some of the
aspects of the novel because it's a great story. It's
the story involves rog and Roger is an older ego
for Craig fiction wise, who grows up on a ranch
house farm in California. And it begins in California with
(09:41):
him with Roger as a as a young boy. About
how old he's about not is he teenage years?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He's he's preteen when the story starts. Preteen begins, yes,
I think I think around eleven ten or eleven when
the story begins.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And one of the aspects of the story is the
breakup of the family. And here you're seeing some of
the animations that he that Craig has done. Chris is
showing them on the screen and these animations are quite good.
So when you read internally into our site, into the
various segments and chapters and vignettes that we've got from
(10:23):
Craig's writing. He's now starting to illustrate them so you
can see the visualization of what he's writing about, which
is quite interesting. And I think this is it brings
it all to life in another dimension and the story
I want to focus on today.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
By the way, By the way, real quickly, writing the
story was was hard because of doing the visuals is
even harder because because I'm you know, I'm re seeing
a lot of this.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I just want to point that out and reimagining it.
I mean, that's why it took you so long to
do it. It's not easy to bring back to the
surface all that you went through, right, And I mean,
this stuff is you know, this is I'm sure a
lot of it you prefer to forget about. And that
was not easy to do either.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, And I did an interview this morning and occurred
to me while I was doing an interview that people
are waking up people. You know, I couldn't have talked
about this at all ten years ago like this and
people are not talking about it. But at the same time,
people still have a long way. There's still a lot
I haven't shared. There's still a lot going on that
I've just you know, I'm I'm waiting for everybody wake
(11:31):
up a little bit more and then we'll go a
little bit deeper. But but you're sure.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, your second album, I'm sure will go another level deeper.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And again this is I think it's going to be
a series of articles and Okay, what I want to
concentrate today on is the story of rog and really
the breakup of the families. I was divorce including Rod.
When the story begins, Al Roger's odd family has broken up, right,
(12:04):
Is that right? Correct?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Craig correct. Yeah, So he's living with his stepdad on
his grandfather's horse ranch. Pretty much the whole family is there.
It's it's a large enough ranch that everybody's there. It's
three generations of people, a family there. But the family,
his family is broken up. Yes, his his dad has
(12:26):
been gone, you know, doesn't even know him.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So his stepdad is Meryll. Can he find he described Meryl.
Give us some idea of the character Meryl.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Merrell was a good guy, good intentions. You know, he
took on, uh, this woman with who had kids and
was during the you know, sixties and seventies when divorce
was still pretty new. Because divorce is something that you
were embarrassed of, you know, especially if you're a family.
You know, but out where I was raised on the ranch,
(12:56):
there was a lot of ranches up there, a lot
of cattle ranches and a lot of orgin orchards and
orange orchards, huge operations, and those families broke up too,
the same thing. So these you know, the granddaddy start
these these operations, these enterprises, and two generations later, the
kids are so messed up. You know, my my parents
are so messed up that that that they lose the
(13:17):
whole thing. And it happened everywhere up there that you know,
the boors just kind of ruined everything. And I think
it's well, I know, it's by design. And you know,
the nuclear family.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The Saviians hate the nuclear family. They don't want men
and women to gether pro creating children and raising them
in a moral education.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah. So you know, it started but forty years ago.
I mean they're still doing it today and not how
far they've come.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean, so you know, you you grow up
in single mother homes and then you go out on
your own. Single mothers are not that stable because they've
now got boyfriends and it's it's a mess, right, But
but okay, so Merrill was the positive step dad. What
(14:03):
happened to Meryl in the.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Story in the story that there's just a fight for
control over the ranch. Who's going to control who's going
to take over? So so Roger's grand bothered Pops has
promised it to Roger without telling his uncle or his stepdad.
And when you know, when push comes to shove, Merle
kids can't take it. Merle starts an affair everybody, everybodys
(14:27):
screwing everybody out there again it's a sebtisexual revolution. So
he gets caught mess around with someone who's messing around
with someone else, and that's sort of that's sort of
the proverbial straw that sent him out of there. He
couldn't take any more. So he bailed. Ye, how do
he bail? He just packed up his truck and left.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
He just left one day. He was gone.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, when they was gone, well, a lot had been happening,
you know, a lot, a lot was happening at that time.
The ranch was falling apart. It was clear that he
wasn't going to take over. Over. Most of the ranch
had been lost through some shady dealings on my uncle's
side or Roger's uncle side, and so, I mean the
(15:11):
writing was on the wall. It was time for him
to go. And he wasn't really getting along with everybody,
with anybody anyway. He was kind of a goof. He tried,
he tried really hard, but he's kind of dumb. Actually,
he was a football job kind of guy. So Claire
Clara that that the mother in the story. She kind
of went from her her childhood sweetheart to Merle without
(15:31):
really thinking because she didn't want to be divorced. She
didn't want to be a single mom.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Right, and uh, you know, the the relationships, uh Clara
and Merrill and the relationships of the family are just
kind of dysfunctional. Nobody seems to really connect and uh,
and they're all kind of at odds with each other,
and there's a sexual undertone of the whole thing. The
(16:03):
then Pop comes along. Who's pop?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Pop Pops is a grandfather who started the whole ranch.
So Pop Pops and and and Rage have a really
good relationship. It Pops backstories that came from Texas and
came to California to ride the real estate boom, and
he was very successful. So he built his dream ranch
(16:27):
and his children lost it for him, so he ended
up back in Texas, you know, living in a neighborhood
house somewhere.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right, And so different characters that come in and out
of it. There's Conrad, who's Conrad.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So Conrad is actually Sloan's.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Father, right, and Sona is the girlfriend of Roger and
both preteens even having sex, right.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So when when when Roger and Sloan ultimately end up
getting married at the same time Clara and Conrad are
getting married. So it's like he's marrying his step sister.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Right, He's marrying his stepsister, right, And that's pretty messed up,
but yeah, happens probably probably added to the kind of
the evil excitement of it. I mean, they kind of
out of the ordinary excitement of it. This is the edgy.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, Well, from from Roger's perspective, growing up, his peculiar perspective,
family that they the destruction of the family was was
considered a good thing. It's like, oh good, we're free now,
we can go do whatever we want. We're young people,
we were free of all this this uh, you know,
the generation of the gap. So it was it wasn't
(17:48):
like everybody was sad about the you know family is
breaking up. Even though it was going on all over
the place around us, we didn't seem to care to.
I mean, we weren't too worried about it. Unfortunately, too
bad we weren't, because look click at where we are today. Right.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But again, the sexual activity between Sloan and rog which
is the beginning at this time, you know, the other
characters know about I mean, Clara knows about it, and
Conrad knows about it, and they're all kind of accepting it.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's like it's normal, it's normal, it's it's and they
see it as exceptional. It's like, oh, good, look, I'm
proud of you kids.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You're having sex already.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah. Yeah, you're on your way to becoming adults and
living your own life. And go ahead, go do it.
We got stuff to do over here. Yeah, we're busy, right,
We're busy, right, go find something to do. So we
did well.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It seems like all through the story, Roger is looking
for a real father. Yeah, and he keeps looking at
these bouncing around trying to find another one. And the
people who's finding are dysfunctional, they're not really appropriate, right,
So I mean he comes into uh, Louis who's Louis.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Louis a hippie cowboy out there. He was he was
the head uh head wrangler, you know, your consummate of
hippie cowboy and he and Roger had a pretty good
relationship for a long time. And then but all these
men that came in and out of Broadger's loft, they
either they either betrayed him or they belled on him,
and so he could by the time he reached his
Silicon Valley, he sort of has an attitude about the
(19:28):
world that you know, I'm I'm I'm in this alone
and by myself, and I gotta I gotta figure this out.
There's nobody I can go to. I can't trust anybody.
But then when he meets, you know, these big wigs
in Silicon Valley, it's like, this is the whole new
class of men. I'm gonna hook up at these guys.
This is great.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah. Well, and again it's a the sex undertone. All
of this is always there and it'll be it's just
kind of normal and it's expected, kind of almost it's
it's kind of the undertone of the whole story.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
M h. I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And yet it's it's completely it's not so much the
forbidden aspect of it, but the fact that it's you know,
like you deal with Roger and Sloane having sex as
pretty teens. Well there, it has nothing to do with procreation,
has nothing to do with really understanding what sex is
deeply about, but it is yet enticing.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, when I when I started writing this book, I
didn't really I you know, I was like, well, how
do these two people meet? There's just two people, it's
like sex, Well, how does happen? I'll start with sexing.
I realize everything that everything kind of started with. I
really didn't realize until I sat writing the book. How
oh you know, looking back, everybody was having sex all
the time. Everybody was everybody with orgies and and and
(20:58):
just you know, casual sex and even sex that you're
kind of bored with Andy and that that wasn't the
worst thing though to me, that was that was just
sort of a side problem. The bigger problems were, you know,
the rituals and trying to get out of that. But yeah,
it begins, it begins with with with sex. You know,
(21:19):
they're grooming these kids for not just to be sexual,
but to be sort of anti everything, and anti everything
that's good, you know, you know, you look, you're taught
not to explore sexually, but then when you're encouraged to,
that means, oh, I can explore the other taboos as well.
(21:40):
Because if I can get away with this one, I
you know, I'm talking as a young kid, as young man.
If I can get away with this, if this is
okay and good and fun and profitable, well I'll do
this too. I'll do the next thing. And pretty soon
you're You've got a whole, big, long line of things
that you've done. And I say, well, this is a lifestyle.
Now now I'm on my way to something. And it's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, I mean the scenes you know that I'm just
reading it. You know, a scene where the two of
them are essentially pulling their pants down and exposing themselves
to each other, rog and sloan and just kind of
laughing about it. It's you know, and and Blowana basically
says that you know that she said that was fun,
(22:25):
and she then she says, well, she doesn't want to
quit yet, so she says, let's go swimming. Well, we
don't have swimsuits. We go naked, like we're both taking
a bath, and so again it becomes so much of
a one thing leads to another. It seems innocent, but
yet when you realize what's going on, it's again the
breakup of the family, the sexualization of children, which the
(22:47):
pedophila aspect of it, which a lot of the Luciferians have.
You know, there's so much of the pedophilia that goes
hand in hand with the Luciferian nature of this. You know,
the Hollywood Glitterati or Silicon Valley or New York Upper
Society or any of these cult dark cult cultists have
(23:11):
to do with sexualization of children. And that's and why
is that?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Do you think, Well, there's a there's a long history
of of why the Luciferians like incest, pedophilia and uh,
the androgine. Uh. It's it's really hard to explain just
kind of sitting here, but it's more to it than
just uh, a sex thing. It's it's you know, I
(23:38):
was talking to these guys earlier today and I was remembering,
you know, when you go into a when I went
to that room with those guys, of those old men, Uh,
you're kind of your whole world changes instantly because you
realize you're you're in a room with with something that's connected,
something that's very very ancient, very very powerful, and very
(23:58):
very scary, and even if the thing happened, when you
walk out of that room, your your your your world
view is different. The analogy I was using this it's like,
it's like if you had a big foot encounter, not
just one where you think you saw them, but where
there's these sasquatches in front of you and they're and
they're trying to decide what to do with you, and
you can smell them. And when you walk away from
that experience, you're gonna be your world view is going
(24:19):
to change. You can't tell anybody because nobody's gonna believe you.
But and when you hear other people talking about, well,
do Luciferians really do sas Squatch really exists, You're gonna
it's gonna be aggravating because you know that they do,
and there's no way to tell them except you know,
maybe they're gound have their own encounter one day.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, this is the you're talking about the initiation of
rog into the cult, which is the elders, these old men,
these young older men who assemble. Yeah, that it ends
up in sonomizing rog Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
What I was trying to get, I guess was that
was the whole How how deep the power, how how
much your depth ris to all this. It's when you're
on the outside looking in, it's really hard to imagine,
you know, what what goes on. But but you know,
I have had experiences where I've I've just I don't
know why I felt that way, But you can just
you can really fill something. It's with you, something is
(25:13):
in the room. Something you can feel the goosebumps, it's
it's it's it's weird.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, you're you're invoking powers that are dark powers.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and they're they're here and they're there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah. And so the different So it goes from Merrill,
who's pretty basically okay in terms of taking care of rage,
to others like Easy and uh uh Conrad Easy.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Easy was one of those take take them on, you know,
take this kid under my wing kind of guys, you know,
a good guy but with bad habits.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And then you end up with Lee Nelson, who's Lee Nelson.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Lean Nelson is the it's kind of the main antagonist. Uh,
He's he's the one that sort of uh rings Roger
all the way in to uh, to the point I
never return really. I mean, he kind of hooks up
with him right away. And the reason why is because
Roger is a brilliant computer scientist and he does some
(26:13):
stuff that impresses Lee to the point that he wants
to own him. And that's kind of the way it works.
You know, he saw something in this kid and he
wants it, and you know he gets what he.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Wants, right. I mean, it's the whole thing with Lee
is the real power, I mean, the real dark power
that enters into it and explains to and gets Roge
deeper deeper into the the practices. And there's one of
(26:46):
the paragraphs here that what you're you're looking you have
an encounter with Lee and uh, there's this photo that
he's looking at and Lee's own family. By this, mister
Desmond had been selected for the blood rituals sacrifice. Now,
(27:07):
what's the blood ritual sacrifice?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, there's a lot of different there's a lot of
different ones that the the blood rituals are the most important.
Those are the ones that you get the most power from.
And you know it involved sacrifice and the more the
more innocent victim, the more power you get that's why
they choose children and infants and and yeah. So uh,
(27:33):
then there's you know, the gravy rituals. Everybody has to
do the gravy rituals. Uh, it's just just you know,
everybody in Hollywood, everybody in Motown, everybody have done them
if they say they haven't. You know, I was listening
to Terrence uh Howard the other day, so we're trying
to back pedal his way out of that. He's like, well,
you know I didn't. We did. Well, you couldn't. There's
no way you could have got where you are if
(27:54):
you didn't. And then there's the humiliation rituals, which was
kind of constant, and it's just a way of controlling
people is to put them through these humiliation You see
that in Hollywood a lot. You know, every time a
macho after wears a dress that's a humiliation ritual. Every
time they make them take a role that makes them
look stupid. I mean, if I was a Hollywood after,
(28:15):
I would only take certain role because I would want to,
you know, foster a certain look. But you know, they
make them do whatever they wanted to do, and a
lot of it's humiliating and it's just to show they
didn't need to do that. I mean, it kind of
did it a little bit back in the old days,
but they do it to everybody now. They have to.
They have to control these people.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And so it's it's control is a lot of it, and.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Uh, it's all extortion. It's just it's all blackmail.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah. Once once you engage this behavior, now there you're
subject to blackmail.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Right, And that that's the problem the had with me
is because I didn't care if nobody they could blackmail
me too, they could, well who they're gonna tell? You know,
everybody was nobody cared and the ones I did care
were either dead or missing. So it made so I
mean I'm talking about me in particularly, so it made it.
It made it easy, not easy. It made it possible
for me more possible for me to get out of
(29:11):
there because they could. I wasn't afraid, you know, I mean,
I mean, I'm talking about it right right now, right,
so you can't blackmail.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Me with it, right right. And one of the scenes,
who's Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Malcolm Malcolm is sort of represents their hit man, their
their typical hit man. And I knew a couple of
Malcolm the one, the one in particular. It's funny. He
looked a lot like the FBI guy, Peter Strozik or
the creepy guy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, Peters.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, they had the same look, you know, that same.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Creepy demonic, creepy demonic.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah. I mean you know that, you know that something's
controlling them. I don't. I don't mean to talk about him, but.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, it's just it. Certainly he looked bizarre somehow or other.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, so I read it a lot. So, yeah, I
was surprised that they put him out there because that
was our look. I've seen it a lot and you
don't really see it's one of those hidden uh, one
of those hidden guys. They don't come out too often.
When they do come out, you know, something serious is happening.
So that that would be the guy that would that
(30:20):
would facilitate the Red Scarf murder.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
In fact, who is Annie in the story?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I don't remember, and rather rename they.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Murdered Anne in her bedroom, me and Malcolm with his
dark sunglasses and black cloth of the gloves.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Probably that was probably uh, the lead Nelson's ex wife
or previous wife.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yes, yeah, she finds him waiting when she gets out
of her morning shower while Malcolm strangles Anne with one
of her own scarf face down, one of her own
scarfs based down on the bed. The pokes are in
a vein behind the knee with a large needle, and
holds the silk handkerchief against the wound until Anne is dead.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Right, So the handkerchiefs with the death blood. That's that's
the trophy. That's whatever, that's a trophy. That's a colluck.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, So they put that in a plastic sandwich baggy
and Malcolm hangs and his body by the neck with
a scarf over the knob of the bathroom door. Make
it look like a suicide. They tosses the fake suicide
letter next to her body, cuts the lock of her hair,
and stuffs it into a cigar tube souvenir. He says
(31:34):
in a sinister voice, this doesn't look like naked like that.
Puts some clothes on this thing and meet me in
the car, Malcolm instructs Lee. He goes to the bathroom,
returns with Annie's underwear, bra on bathrobe. He dresses her
in a hurry without emotion, stares her lifeless body, then
wipes his hands on his trousers and leaves. So it's
(31:54):
all kind of it's all kind of emotionless but yet
very sinister.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
But by the time, by the time someone like Lee
has reached that point, he doesn't see everybody else's people anymore.
They really, they really believe that they have evolved in
their own lifetime into something grander, you know, something godlike
by by going to all these rituals. You know, because
again when you're in that, when you're when you're in
(32:25):
these places, and you know, I didn't get that deep
into it. I got deep enough to where it was
pretty scary, and you know, it's affected my entire life.
But when you start doing this routinely and you're seeking
it out, I mean, can you imagine what that too?
But that does to a person. What that that's a
person's own self image. You know, they really believe that
they have real power in a way they do well.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And the next scene, Lee is eating sea bass and
bloody steak, and this yacht broker comes and he signs
a check for one million, five hundred and five thousand
dollars and hands it to Frasier was overwhelmed by having
such a large check in his possession. He's a yacht
(33:09):
broker all his life, he's been one and where does
anybody pay cash? And so again, Uh, it's the evil nature.
So much money, so so much success, and it's right
on top of him having killed his and with I
think it was his wife. You have his wife and
(33:31):
done again in a one of the Red Scarf killings.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right, So so that that that would be considered a
blood ritual. So you know, blood rituals can be that,
or it could be a group of people sacrificing you know,
something a human usually you know, usually an infant. Yeah,
the movie Mother, I think I sent you the clip
where they actually show that that ritual. And I've had
(33:58):
you know where where their their sacrifice a baby. I
think it was Elizabeth Hurley or something start. Yes, but
other people have seen that, and I've had people coming
in and say, well, that's just that's just artistic representation
of the Catholic you uh, Eucharist. You know, the baby
represents Jesus. That's okay, fine, you believe that, and but
(34:20):
their their claims. That's where I got it was like, no,
I was talking about this years before that movie came out.
You know a lot of people were not just I
was barely talking about it, but there was people talking
about you and I were talking about it before.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We were talking about Yes, we were talking about it
years before. But the the whole undertone of this, and
it gets it gets deeper and deeper into the book,
you begin to understand more deeply the blood rituals, the
killing of babies, the the producing of the fear in babies,
(34:52):
which then they take this drug out of the baby's blood.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
What is the drug, Well, it creates something called it adrenochrome.
We we kind of we we I knew it was crou.
I didn't know what it was back then, and that's
the truth. I didn't know what it was. I think
I had it once. But we call it getting chromed.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Very powerful.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, And so the bab the victims that they use
in the blood rituals aren't the ones that they drained
to get their drink. That's that's a whole different manufacturing center.
That's where you know, like ed Scene's baby farm, That's
that's what those are for. We're adrenochrome, Yeah, that's that's
where they that's it involves.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Frightening the child in order to get this these uh,
I guess hormones into the bloodstream, which they then mind.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, the whole thing is very scientific, very very biological.
They have it down to a science. That's why they
choose children too, is because children can't control their their
fear responses as as well as as adults, and they
over they overload very quickly, especially when they start crying,
you know, and they get they get in that weird,
uh sort hyperventilating mode. That's kind of what they're they're
(36:09):
they're they're striving for. Adults don't really do that anymore,
but children do once they get into that hyperventilating mode,
and then they reach a point that they're ready for harvest.
I really hate talking like this, but it's a fact
of life.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, I mean again, we're we're talking about these things
not to sensationalize them, but because it's important for everybody
to understand what goes on.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
It is and people are. People are, Like I said,
people are. I can see if people are catching on.
I never would have never thought I would talk about
I never thought I would be doing this right now.
I mean, I'm old enough now that doesn't scare me.
What are they going to do? But there's enough people
talking about it now that that something's gonna happen one
way or another. Something soon is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well, I think the just the writing of the book
and be creating this part of the website of coorsin
Nation is uh shocking a lot of people. But what
happens with this book is you read it. At first
it seems like it's hard to keep going, and then
it gets addictive. I mean you read it right to
the end, and people get to be fascinated with it
(37:15):
in terms of you know, is deeper deeper, the darker
and darker it gets. And then then there's an attempt
by Roger to pull out of it, which is equally
difficult because you don't leave this. You don't leave this
called easily. You lose everything. In the process of losing everything,
(37:36):
you're abandoned and left hopeless. No money, no connections, no
nobody responding to your phone calls.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yea. And especially for someone like Roger who doesn't really
there's no you know, there's no there's nobody really to
go to at that point. There's there's there's no there's
no network, there's no family, there's no there's nothing left.
Just that makes it even hard. It makes it hard,
but also makes it a lot easier. It's easier to hide,
but it makes it really hard to going. You know,
going out on your on your own, completely on your
own like that is difficult.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, the summoning up of this dark power and the
living in this Luciferian hatred on the what it leads
to in terms of the sexual rituals or the blood rituals,
or the suicides or all of these things are in
a sense demonic because their their counter life. There their
(38:28):
hate life. They're filled with hate. They're destructive, right, and
there's nothing positive about any of this. The pleasure is
taken in someone else's pain or embarrassment or abuse or
torture or murder, and and the pleasure derived from that
(38:50):
is the heightened experience, the heightened appreciation of a higher
level in which this kind of behavior is an expression
of power. Mm hmm, dark power and the worship we
get that dark power.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, you know, as you know, I was very apprehensive
about writing this book because I thought people would either
consider me some kind of monster or a liar. But
I'm finding that people really aren't doing it either. They're
they're actually bonafidely interested, not in a not in a
morbid way, but in a you know, I need to
know more about this because I'm seeing it too. We're
(39:26):
starting to see it too, you know. You know I
want to know more. You know.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Well, as more interviews we do, the more accessible we
make it to people when we start talking about it,
the more I think people are going to want to
read it and want to know more in depth of
what it's all about. And it's you know, it took
you a long time to do the first one and
to learn how to write, and to learn how to
(39:54):
tell a story and to construct the characters and make
the narrative flow. But I think you come along way
in that ability, and these.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Are that's as a result of hook it up with you,
which to me is, you know, is a god thing.
I never I couldn't have written this book if I
didn't ran into you.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
But the fact that it's written is you know, your experience,
what you went through and then you got out.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Of it allows you now to expose this world for
what it is, and so things that people experience and
watch on television and see, you know, happening in Hollywood
or happening in New York City, or happening in any
of the glitterati you know, which looked bizarre.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
It fits into this dark power logic, which is fundamentally
destroying other people are destroying their dignity, destroying their sexuality,
destroying their families, just destroying their image of themselves, demeaning rituals,
which you know are very very base.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Everything is exact opposite of the love of God.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's exactly. It has nothing to do with nurturing God.
Love advance all negative destruction, and the power is all
negative destruction. So it's the best comprehension. I think that
through the story that you can get of what evil
is really like. And it's kind of banal. I mean,
(41:28):
it's kind of almost pathetic. It's it's it's so bizarre
and evil, you'd say, how can anyone possibly indulge in this,
except that it has the dominance over another, it has
the characteristic of power and serving evil, and as such,
it's it becomes seductive.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
H you'd agree, I do, especially when you're you're rewarded
so greatly.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, it's it's and these are the ones who succeed.
Everything they do, touches to go, everything that touch comes
to gold.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And so as you as you're going down that path,
you can see the people at the other end, and
these are the people that are the richest people on
the planet. Yeah, and that's you know, that's where you're heading.
That's you know, how else you know, you know, it's
it's amazing that you've e been on that path and
you want to get there. You want to be one
of those I want to have seven mansions, you know,
all over the world, big bunker.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, I'm going to recommend that everybody get the and
read the Silicon Satan and get into understanding how what
we're really seeing in this Luciferian elite, and you know,
the power of the prestige, the privilege that these people
are awarded comes from these dark arts of rituals that
(42:50):
are almost so frightening they're hard to read the first time.
After you've read it a bit, and after you've gotten
into it, it becomes you become kind of it's desensitized
to it. And even then it's frightening because you begin
to find yourself understanding and accepting this as a world
that's you know, the viable that exists, that it's hidden
(43:14):
at dark and the seductive power of that is great,
and so you have to make a decision, is this
which path are you going to go down? And I
think we're seeing increasingly more people are understanding and waking
up to say they reject this path.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's not just it's not just keeping people off the path,
it's it's getting rid of the people. It's getting rid
of the path. You got to get rid of the path.
I mean, all people don't need to be that rich.
You don't need to be that wealthy. You know. I
saw a study where just to be divided all the
all the wealth in the world, everybody gets fifteen thousand
dollars per lifetime. So why do these people have so
much they don't need, They're never going to spend it.
It's just it's just power and position.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And self glorification exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, I mean, the solution is to get rid of
the solution is to make I remember my grandfather was wealthy,
but he was embarrassed by he hit as wealth and everybody,
all of all the men did back then. You know,
wealth is something that you just kind of kept quite
in brag about it. Now you're bragg it down and
your brag about greed is considered a good thing.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
All right, Well, Craig, thanks for coming back, and we'll
do more of this. We'll keep her into the story,
we'll read more of it. Well, I'll get and watch
some of your We'll get into what's on the website
and look at some of these videos. There's quite a
bit more. I want to make this a regular feature
of the show. I want to build you as an author,
get people to pay attention to the works and get
(44:42):
into it, because I think it's only accessible through the
fictionalization of it, which makes it readable and understandable in
terms of the psychology. But it's still horrific.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Well, thanks for having again.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, Well, it's great, great pleasure to have here in
the sense it's it's never easy, it's never really fun.
But the pleasure in it is I want to shed
light on this, and the pleasure is really in the
uncovering and the illuminaty this darkness, because it's it's ultimately weak,
(45:21):
it's ultimately self destructive, it's ultimately a lie, and once
people understand that, it loses its attractiveness. But again, it's
going to be an exploration into darkness in order to
emerge back into the light. Okay, Sector Drone Corsi, and
(45:45):
we've been talking with Craig Lund, who is the author
of Silicon Satan. We have a section of the website,
of course, The Nation dot Com dedicated to Craig's continuing writing.
You get to see the new novel in progress and
sections being published on corsination dot com with animations, and
it's a fascinating topic. And I think we're going to
(46:06):
do ultimately. I see this could be a series of
Netflix or a series somewhere or other, because this is
going to have to be dramatized. We're gonna have to
be shown to people in a way that it becomes
mass market property and shown for the fact that it
is evil and has got to be resisted. Okay, Doctor
(46:26):
John Corsi, thank you for joining us. And then God
always wins. God will win here too, and I think
it's bird the second Chronicle seven fourteen. We have to
ask God to forgive us for letting it get to
this evil point, and God will hear our prayer and
heal our land. Any final thoughts Craig.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Today, Nope, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Thanks, Okay, thank you for joining us this Coursenation dot com.
We're doing podcasts every weekday. Thank you for joining us,
God Bless sentence at Start
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Products Sentiments, dust Intimity sentim
Your angelus.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Of course, this drone course, and we have Craig lundback
with us. Craig is the author of Silicon Satan, which
Chris will show you on the screen as we go along,
and also our website courseenation dot com. Craig has a
(00:23):
section on the website. It's devoted to his work. He's
posting a new novel in sections and starting to do animations.
It's quite good. We'll show you that in a second.
But welcome Craig. It's good to have you back.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's good to be you.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And Silicon Satan, Satan's book Craig started. We've been working
on this for six or seven years. I mean, it
seems like forever. It was not an easy book, not
an easy book to write. Now, I mean, if this
is essentially Craig's life story fictionalized, and Craig was a
(00:58):
top top engineer and solicon Valley and got to experience
the satanic side of Silicon Valley and then managed to
find God an escape which is remarkable. And the novel
is the journey into darkness and then out of darkness
in Silicon Valley. Now we're showing you here on the website.
(01:19):
You can see here Chris is now showing you there's
the scroll down you see the Silicon Valley section, and
there's new work on this. There's new work that has
not been published except on the website. And this is
Where's Wally Part two. This is part of the new novel.
And as you go into the section itself, you click
into it and you get additional material because you can
(01:41):
see that there's archived material inside. And as you get
inside it, if it's scrolled down, you'll see various of
the cameos and special sections in Silicon Satan which are
covered and they're very interesting, I really and new animations
are coming onto these. If you kind of click one
(02:02):
of the animations that you can see how they're really fascinating. Uh.
And there's quite a lot of material in here, So
I think you're going to get deeply into it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I want to. What we've been doing in these podcasts
is to kind of dissecting the story in analyzing it,
because it's a kind of a dark story of someone
who is, you know, inducted into the rituals of Satanic
activity that define the top of Silicon Valley. Now, Craig,
(02:36):
you're not saying everybody in Silicon Valley is a Satanist. Correct.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Correct, And again there's a distinction between Eliziferians and the Satanists.
They don't Elithiferians don't call themselves Satanists. They don't. They
don't consider it Satanic ritual what they're doing. They consider it. Ah, well,
they're they're religion. But I just wanted to make that
distinction that that they don't they don't see themselves as that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
In other words, they don't get they're evil. They consider
they are following what the the ruler of this space?
I mean, how do they how do they conceptualize it? Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, they well, they they consider their god, Lucifer to
be uh the true God, the good God, the good guy,
the guy that's that's out the safe humanity, and that
our god is the bad God. He's the one who
tricked Adam and Eve in the garden and Lucifer is
going to get us back there. That's that's the basic
(03:30):
of their belief. And uh, they find the Satanists useful
because they can blame everything on the Satanist when everything
anytime anything goes bad, they just blame the Satanists. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But but yet the rituals are I mean, they're rituals
are quite evil in terms of pedophilia, the sexual rituals
they go through.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And yeah, yeah they are. They're very they're to us,
they're very evil to them, they're not to them, they're
they're fun.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, group sex and drugs and orgies and killing people
on stage and dramatic way to heighten everybody's sexual intensity.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And that's just the build up, right, And so so
the goal the goal of these like stuff orgies and
stuff isn't isn't sexual gratification. It's it's it's there's something
going on there. There's a purpose to it. There's a
spiritual purpose to it. And Alester Crowley's when it kind
of opened up all this sex magic, sex power. So
they use that to get to whatever they're trying to
(04:33):
get to. So the build up isn't The build up
is to I mean all the stuff that we hear about,
all this the satanic stuff that we hear about, that's
just the build up to to to what what they
ultimately want to do.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And what do they ultimately want to do?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, it depends a lot of time they're doing uhh,
knowledge transfers or they're getting there, they're gaining knowledge somehow.
I never you know, I never really got high enough
to where I was going to those rituals. You know,
I would have had to stuck it out a lot
longer and done a lot worse things I'd already done.
But I knew enough about what was going on. I
knew how they were, you know, or they put spells
(05:12):
on people, and they put spells on groups of people,
they would, you know, whatever it is they wanted to do.
Everything is very ritual oriented, very ritual centric. Everything has
to be and that's and that's part of their religion,
and it's sort of a copy of of what you
know of the truth. You know, we we you know,
our religion, our worship is very important and we we
(05:33):
do certain rituals as well. Well. They just they do
ritual They have their rituals, but they do them a
lot more and there they're on the other side, well,
and they're dark rituals.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean, you get. One of the aspects that Craig
is doing is also interpreting some of the current events
in terms of the satanic nature the or the Luciferian
nature of what's going on. You know, this one that
impressed me the most is this red sky thing. And
so you know, when you hear someone who's committed suicide
in Hollywood, it may not actually be a suicide. And
(06:07):
that would they want to explain that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Especially if they're hanging themselves on a doorknob with a
red scarf. That's why it's called the red scarf suicide.
That used to be I don't see it that much anymore,
but that used to be a message. We just off
this guy and uh be careful, this is this is
what happens. But I just I just put out an
article about Gene Hackman. They kind of did the same
thing that, you know, the humiliation thing to him. I
(06:29):
suspect I don't know. I wasn't following him, but I
suspect he was going rogue. You know, these you know,
old old guys go, you know, the conscience starts to
bother them after a while, and they want to they
want to spill the beans. They want to come out
and get it off their chest and go die peaceful.
And I think he was about to do that. And
not only did they kill him, but they made him.
They stole his legacy. You know, now we all are
going to remember Gene Hackman as some old guy who
(06:51):
died in uh rat infested ah squalor, and that that's
a message just like the Red Scarf suicides, the risk
off murders, that's a message to everybody else do a
what he did. We'll do this to you too.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, And there's no out of this. You don't get
out of this. You once you're into it. It's your your, your,
your your, you know. The where you sign is your
life away to this Luciferian dedication and there's no escape
from it without ruin.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Exactly, yeah, right exactly. And see. Uh then in the
article I kind of spell I kind of point out
that the old actors when when when the Lexaparians first
infiltrated Hollywood, the old actors, the old movie stars, you know,
rose to fame and fortune and position, and they were hard,
they became hard to handle. They were they were going road.
(07:47):
So that's what's why you see this new breed of
of actors in Hollywood. Now. They're a lot easier to
control their there very easy to control of the matteract
So but you know, the Gene had generation. He was
ninety five years old. And you know, I've found a
picture of him at ninety five, and he look pretty
good for ninety five. But the picture that they're putting
(08:07):
out makes them look old in the crepit and de minted,
and they're doing that on purpose. Now I'm not I don't,
I don't really know Gene happened. I mean, I'm a fan,
I guess. But you get to the point when I got
to the point where where I've seen this stuff for
so long now that it's really easy for me to
just to spot now, and it's it's hard to explain,
it's really it's very easy to spot.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So if you are not you can live a normal
life and work in Silicon Valley and never be part Luciferians.
But if you want to rise to the top, want
to hit the big time, you're.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Going to have to join the cult, right And if
you've noticed, especially these days, the Luciferians, some people call
him Illuminati, some people call him the Jews. You know,
it's all the same group. They have infiltrated every institution
on planet. So no matter what where you are, if
you want to ge to the top, you're gonna probably
(09:01):
if you have to go through the rituals. At this point,
I'm pretty much convince if you want to get top
of anything. I even see it. I mean, I'm even
starting to see it in this podcasting world. It's it's
there's a lot of money in it now and when
the money comes to Luciferians show up.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, okay. I want to go into some of the
aspects of the novel because it's a great story. It's
the story involves rog and Roger is an older ego
for Craig fiction wise, who grows up on a ranch
house farm in California. And it begins in California with
(09:41):
him with Roger as a as a young boy. About
how old he's about not is he teenage years?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He's he's preteen when the story starts. Preteen begins, yes,
I think I think around eleven ten or eleven when
the story begins.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And one of the aspects of the story is the
breakup of the family. And here you're seeing some of
the animations that he that Craig has done. Chris is
showing them on the screen and these animations are quite good.
So when you read internally into our site, into the
various segments and chapters and vignettes that we've got from
(10:23):
Craig's writing. He's now starting to illustrate them so you
can see the visualization of what he's writing about, which
is quite interesting. And I think this is it brings
it all to life in another dimension and the story
I want to focus on today.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
By the way, By the way, real quickly, writing the
story was was hard because of doing the visuals is
even harder because because I'm you know, I'm re seeing
a lot of this.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I just want to point that out and reimagining it.
I mean, that's why it took you so long to
do it. It's not easy to bring back to the
surface all that you went through, right, And I mean,
this stuff is you know, this is I'm sure a
lot of it you prefer to forget about. And that
was not easy to do either.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, And I did an interview this morning and occurred
to me while I was doing an interview that people
are waking up people. You know, I couldn't have talked
about this at all ten years ago like this and
people are not talking about it. But at the same time,
people still have a long way. There's still a lot
I haven't shared. There's still a lot going on that
I've just you know, I'm I'm waiting for everybody wake
(11:31):
up a little bit more and then we'll go a
little bit deeper. But but you're sure.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, your second album, I'm sure will go another level deeper.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And again this is I think it's going to be
a series of articles and Okay, what I want to
concentrate today on is the story of rog and really
the breakup of the families. I was divorce including Rod.
When the story begins, Al Roger's odd family has broken up, right,
(12:04):
Is that right? Correct?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Craig correct. Yeah, So he's living with his stepdad on
his grandfather's horse ranch. Pretty much the whole family is there.
It's it's a large enough ranch that everybody's there. It's
three generations of people, a family there. But the family,
his family is broken up. Yes, his his dad has
(12:26):
been gone, you know, doesn't even know him.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So his stepdad is Meryll. Can he find he described Meryl.
Give us some idea of the character Meryl.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Merrell was a good guy, good intentions. You know, he
took on, uh, this woman with who had kids and
was during the you know, sixties and seventies when divorce
was still pretty new. Because divorce is something that you
were embarrassed of, you know, especially if you're a family.
You know, but out where I was raised on the ranch,
(12:56):
there was a lot of ranches up there, a lot
of cattle ranches and a lot of orgin orchards and
orange orchards, huge operations, and those families broke up too,
the same thing. So these you know, the granddaddy start
these these operations, these enterprises, and two generations later, the
kids are so messed up. You know, my my parents
are so messed up that that that they lose the
(13:17):
whole thing. And it happened everywhere up there that you know,
the boors just kind of ruined everything. And I think
it's well, I know, it's by design. And you know,
the nuclear family.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The Saviians hate the nuclear family. They don't want men
and women to gether pro creating children and raising them
in a moral education.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah. So you know, it started but forty years ago.
I mean they're still doing it today and not how
far they've come.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean, so you know, you you grow up
in single mother homes and then you go out on
your own. Single mothers are not that stable because they've
now got boyfriends and it's it's a mess, right, But
but okay, so Merrill was the positive step dad. What
(14:03):
happened to Meryl in the.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Story in the story that there's just a fight for
control over the ranch. Who's going to control who's going
to take over? So so Roger's grand bothered Pops has
promised it to Roger without telling his uncle or his stepdad.
And when you know, when push comes to shove, Merle
kids can't take it. Merle starts an affair everybody, everybodys
(14:27):
screwing everybody out there again it's a sebtisexual revolution. So
he gets caught mess around with someone who's messing around
with someone else, and that's sort of that's sort of
the proverbial straw that sent him out of there. He
couldn't take any more. So he bailed. Ye, how do
he bail? He just packed up his truck and left.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
He just left one day. He was gone.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, when they was gone, well, a lot had been happening,
you know, a lot, a lot was happening at that time.
The ranch was falling apart. It was clear that he
wasn't going to take over. Over. Most of the ranch
had been lost through some shady dealings on my uncle's
side or Roger's uncle side, and so, I mean the
(15:11):
writing was on the wall. It was time for him
to go. And he wasn't really getting along with everybody,
with anybody anyway. He was kind of a goof. He tried,
he tried really hard, but he's kind of dumb. Actually,
he was a football job kind of guy. So Claire
Clara that that the mother in the story. She kind
of went from her her childhood sweetheart to Merle without
(15:31):
really thinking because she didn't want to be divorced. She
didn't want to be a single mom.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Right, and uh, you know, the the relationships, uh Clara
and Merrill and the relationships of the family are just
kind of dysfunctional. Nobody seems to really connect and uh,
and they're all kind of at odds with each other,
and there's a sexual undertone of the whole thing. The
(16:03):
then Pop comes along. Who's pop?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Pop Pops is a grandfather who started the whole ranch.
So Pop Pops and and and Rage have a really
good relationship. It Pops backstories that came from Texas and
came to California to ride the real estate boom, and
he was very successful. So he built his dream ranch
(16:27):
and his children lost it for him, so he ended
up back in Texas, you know, living in a neighborhood
house somewhere.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right, And so different characters that come in and out
of it. There's Conrad, who's Conrad.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So Conrad is actually Sloan's.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Father, right, and Sona is the girlfriend of Roger and
both preteens even having sex, right.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So when when when Roger and Sloan ultimately end up
getting married at the same time Clara and Conrad are
getting married. So it's like he's marrying his step sister.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Right, He's marrying his stepsister, right, And that's pretty messed up,
but yeah, happens probably probably added to the kind of
the evil excitement of it. I mean, they kind of
out of the ordinary excitement of it. This is the edgy.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, Well, from from Roger's perspective, growing up, his peculiar perspective,
family that they the destruction of the family was was
considered a good thing. It's like, oh good, we're free now,
we can go do whatever we want. We're young people,
we were free of all this this uh, you know,
the generation of the gap. So it was it wasn't
(17:48):
like everybody was sad about the you know family is
breaking up. Even though it was going on all over
the place around us, we didn't seem to care to.
I mean, we weren't too worried about it. Unfortunately, too
bad we weren't, because look click at where we are today. Right.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But again, the sexual activity between Sloan and rog which
is the beginning at this time, you know, the other
characters know about I mean, Clara knows about it, and
Conrad knows about it, and they're all kind of accepting it.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It's like it's normal, it's normal, it's it's and they
see it as exceptional. It's like, oh, good, look, I'm
proud of you kids.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You're having sex already.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah. Yeah, you're on your way to becoming adults and
living your own life. And go ahead, go do it.
We got stuff to do over here. Yeah, we're busy, right,
We're busy, right, go find something to do. So we
did well.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It seems like all through the story, Roger is looking
for a real father. Yeah, and he keeps looking at
these bouncing around trying to find another one. And the
people who's finding are dysfunctional, they're not really appropriate, right,
So I mean he comes into uh, Louis who's Louis.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Louis a hippie cowboy out there. He was he was
the head uh head wrangler, you know, your consummate of
hippie cowboy and he and Roger had a pretty good
relationship for a long time. And then but all these
men that came in and out of Broadger's loft, they
either they either betrayed him or they belled on him,
and so he could by the time he reached his
Silicon Valley, he sort of has an attitude about the
(19:28):
world that you know, I'm I'm I'm in this alone
and by myself, and I gotta I gotta figure this out.
There's nobody I can go to. I can't trust anybody.
But then when he meets, you know, these big wigs
in Silicon Valley, it's like, this is the whole new
class of men. I'm gonna hook up at these guys.
This is great.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah. Well, and again it's a the sex undertone. All
of this is always there and it'll be it's just
kind of normal and it's expected, kind of almost it's
it's kind of the undertone of the whole story.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
M h. I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And yet it's it's completely it's not so much the
forbidden aspect of it, but the fact that it's you know,
like you deal with Roger and Sloane having sex as
pretty teens. Well there, it has nothing to do with procreation,
has nothing to do with really understanding what sex is
deeply about, but it is yet enticing.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, when I when I started writing this book, I
didn't really I you know, I was like, well, how
do these two people meet? There's just two people, it's
like sex, Well, how does happen? I'll start with sexing.
I realize everything that everything kind of started with. I
really didn't realize until I sat writing the book. How
oh you know, looking back, everybody was having sex all
the time. Everybody was everybody with orgies and and and
(20:58):
just you know, casual sex and even sex that you're
kind of bored with Andy and that that wasn't the
worst thing though to me, that was that was just
sort of a side problem. The bigger problems were, you know,
the rituals and trying to get out of that. But yeah,
it begins, it begins with with with sex. You know,
(21:19):
they're grooming these kids for not just to be sexual,
but to be sort of anti everything, and anti everything
that's good, you know, you know, you look, you're taught
not to explore sexually, but then when you're encouraged to,
that means, oh, I can explore the other taboos as well.
(21:40):
Because if I can get away with this one, I
you know, I'm talking as a young kid, as young man.
If I can get away with this, if this is
okay and good and fun and profitable, well I'll do
this too. I'll do the next thing. And pretty soon
you're You've got a whole, big, long line of things
that you've done. And I say, well, this is a lifestyle.
Now now I'm on my way to something. And it's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, I mean the scenes you know that I'm just
reading it. You know, a scene where the two of
them are essentially pulling their pants down and exposing themselves
to each other, rog and sloan and just kind of
laughing about it. It's you know, and and Blowana basically
says that you know that she said that was fun,
(22:25):
and she then she says, well, she doesn't want to
quit yet, so she says, let's go swimming. Well, we
don't have swimsuits. We go naked, like we're both taking
a bath, and so again it becomes so much of
a one thing leads to another. It seems innocent, but
yet when you realize what's going on, it's again the
breakup of the family, the sexualization of children, which the
(22:47):
pedophila aspect of it, which a lot of the Luciferians have.
You know, there's so much of the pedophilia that goes
hand in hand with the Luciferian nature of this. You know,
the Hollywood Glitterati or Silicon Valley or New York Upper
Society or any of these cult dark cult cultists have
(23:11):
to do with sexualization of children. And that's and why
is that?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Do you think, Well, there's a there's a long history
of of why the Luciferians like incest, pedophilia and uh,
the androgine. Uh. It's it's really hard to explain just
kind of sitting here, but it's more to it than
just uh, a sex thing. It's it's you know, I
(23:38):
was talking to these guys earlier today and I was remembering,
you know, when you go into a when I went
to that room with those guys, of those old men, Uh,
you're kind of your whole world changes instantly because you
realize you're you're in a room with with something that's connected,
something that's very very ancient, very very powerful, and very
(23:58):
very scary, and even if the thing happened, when you
walk out of that room, your your your your world
view is different. The analogy I was using this it's like,
it's like if you had a big foot encounter, not
just one where you think you saw them, but where
there's these sasquatches in front of you and they're and
they're trying to decide what to do with you, and
you can smell them. And when you walk away from
that experience, you're gonna be your world view is going
(24:19):
to change. You can't tell anybody because nobody's gonna believe you.
But and when you hear other people talking about, well,
do Luciferians really do sas Squatch really exists, You're gonna
it's gonna be aggravating because you know that they do,
and there's no way to tell them except you know,
maybe they're gound have their own encounter one day.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, this is the you're talking about the initiation of
rog into the cult, which is the elders, these old men,
these young older men who assemble. Yeah, that it ends
up in sonomizing rog Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
What I was trying to get, I guess was that
was the whole How how deep the power, how how
much your depth ris to all this. It's when you're
on the outside looking in, it's really hard to imagine,
you know, what what goes on. But but you know,
I have had experiences where I've I've just I don't
know why I felt that way, But you can just
you can really fill something. It's with you, something is
(25:13):
in the room. Something you can feel the goosebumps, it's
it's it's it's weird.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, you're you're invoking powers that are dark powers.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and they're they're here and they're there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah. And so the different So it goes from Merrill,
who's pretty basically okay in terms of taking care of rage,
to others like Easy and uh uh Conrad Easy.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Easy was one of those take take them on, you know,
take this kid under my wing kind of guys, you know,
a good guy but with bad habits.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And then you end up with Lee Nelson, who's Lee Nelson.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Lean Nelson is the it's kind of the main antagonist. Uh,
He's he's the one that sort of uh rings Roger
all the way in to uh, to the point I
never return really. I mean, he kind of hooks up
with him right away. And the reason why is because
Roger is a brilliant computer scientist and he does some
(26:13):
stuff that impresses Lee to the point that he wants
to own him. And that's kind of the way it works.
You know, he saw something in this kid and he
wants it, and you know he gets what he.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Wants, right. I mean, it's the whole thing with Lee
is the real power, I mean, the real dark power
that enters into it and explains to and gets Roge
deeper deeper into the the practices. And there's one of
(26:46):
the paragraphs here that what you're you're looking you have
an encounter with Lee and uh, there's this photo that
he's looking at and Lee's own family. By this, mister
Desmond had been selected for the blood rituals sacrifice. Now,
(27:07):
what's the blood ritual sacrifice?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, there's a lot of different there's a lot of
different ones that the the blood rituals are the most important.
Those are the ones that you get the most power from.
And you know it involved sacrifice and the more the
more innocent victim, the more power you get that's why
they choose children and infants and and yeah. So uh,
(27:33):
then there's you know, the gravy rituals. Everybody has to
do the gravy rituals. Uh, it's just just you know,
everybody in Hollywood, everybody in Motown, everybody have done them
if they say they haven't. You know, I was listening
to Terrence uh Howard the other day, so we're trying
to back pedal his way out of that. He's like, well,
you know I didn't. We did. Well, you couldn't. There's
no way you could have got where you are if
(27:54):
you didn't. And then there's the humiliation rituals, which was
kind of constant, and it's just a way of controlling
people is to put them through these humiliation You see
that in Hollywood a lot. You know, every time a
macho after wears a dress that's a humiliation ritual. Every
time they make them take a role that makes them
look stupid. I mean, if I was a Hollywood after,
(28:15):
I would only take certain role because I would want to,
you know, foster a certain look. But you know, they
make them do whatever they wanted to do, and a
lot of it's humiliating and it's just to show they
didn't need to do that. I mean, it kind of
did it a little bit back in the old days,
but they do it to everybody now. They have to.
They have to control these people.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And so it's it's control is a lot of it, and.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Uh, it's all extortion. It's just it's all blackmail.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah. Once once you engage this behavior, now there you're
subject to blackmail.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Right, And that that's the problem the had with me
is because I didn't care if nobody they could blackmail
me too, they could, well who they're gonna tell? You know,
everybody was nobody cared and the ones I did care
were either dead or missing. So it made so I
mean I'm talking about me in particularly, so it made it.
It made it easy, not easy. It made it possible
for me more possible for me to get out of
(29:11):
there because they could. I wasn't afraid, you know, I mean,
I mean, I'm talking about it right right now, right,
so you can't blackmail.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Me with it, right right. And one of the scenes,
who's Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Malcolm Malcolm is sort of represents their hit man, their
their typical hit man. And I knew a couple of
Malcolm the one, the one in particular. It's funny. He
looked a lot like the FBI guy, Peter Strozik or
the creepy guy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, Peters.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, they had the same look, you know, that same.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Creepy demonic, creepy demonic.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah. I mean you know that, you know that something's
controlling them. I don't. I don't mean to talk about him, but.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, it's just it. Certainly he looked bizarre somehow or other.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, so I read it a lot. So, yeah, I
was surprised that they put him out there because that
was our look. I've seen it a lot and you
don't really see it's one of those hidden uh, one
of those hidden guys. They don't come out too often.
When they do come out, you know, something serious is happening.
So that that would be the guy that would that
(30:20):
would facilitate the Red Scarf murder.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
In fact, who is Annie in the story?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I don't remember, and rather rename they.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Murdered Anne in her bedroom, me and Malcolm with his
dark sunglasses and black cloth of the gloves.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Probably that was probably uh, the lead Nelson's ex wife
or previous wife.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yes, yeah, she finds him waiting when she gets out
of her morning shower while Malcolm strangles Anne with one
of her own scarf face down, one of her own
scarfs based down on the bed. The pokes are in
a vein behind the knee with a large needle, and
holds the silk handkerchief against the wound until Anne is dead.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Right, So the handkerchiefs with the death blood. That's that's
the trophy. That's whatever, that's a trophy. That's a colluck.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, So they put that in a plastic sandwich baggy
and Malcolm hangs and his body by the neck with
a scarf over the knob of the bathroom door. Make
it look like a suicide. They tosses the fake suicide
letter next to her body, cuts the lock of her hair,
and stuffs it into a cigar tube souvenir. He says
(31:34):
in a sinister voice, this doesn't look like naked like that.
Puts some clothes on this thing and meet me in
the car, Malcolm instructs Lee. He goes to the bathroom,
returns with Annie's underwear, bra on bathrobe. He dresses her
in a hurry without emotion, stares her lifeless body, then
wipes his hands on his trousers and leaves. So it's
(31:54):
all kind of it's all kind of emotionless but yet
very sinister.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
But by the time, by the time someone like Lee
has reached that point, he doesn't see everybody else's people anymore.
They really, they really believe that they have evolved in
their own lifetime into something grander, you know, something godlike
by by going to all these rituals. You know, because
again when you're in that, when you're when you're in
(32:25):
these places, and you know, I didn't get that deep
into it. I got deep enough to where it was
pretty scary, and you know, it's affected my entire life.
But when you start doing this routinely and you're seeking
it out, I mean, can you imagine what that too?
But that does to a person. What that that's a
person's own self image. You know, they really believe that
they have real power in a way they do well.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And the next scene, Lee is eating sea bass and
bloody steak, and this yacht broker comes and he signs
a check for one million, five hundred and five thousand
dollars and hands it to Frasier was overwhelmed by having
such a large check in his possession. He's a yacht
(33:09):
broker all his life, he's been one and where does
anybody pay cash? And so again, Uh, it's the evil nature.
So much money, so so much success, and it's right
on top of him having killed his and with I
think it was his wife. You have his wife and
(33:31):
done again in a one of the Red Scarf killings.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right, So so that that that would be considered a
blood ritual. So you know, blood rituals can be that,
or it could be a group of people sacrificing you know,
something a human usually you know, usually an infant. Yeah,
the movie Mother, I think I sent you the clip
where they actually show that that ritual. And I've had
(33:58):
you know where where their their sacrifice a baby. I
think it was Elizabeth Hurley or something start. Yes, but
other people have seen that, and I've had people coming
in and say, well, that's just that's just artistic representation
of the Catholic you uh, Eucharist. You know, the baby
represents Jesus. That's okay, fine, you believe that, and but
(34:20):
their their claims. That's where I got it was like, no,
I was talking about this years before that movie came out.
You know a lot of people were not just I
was barely talking about it, but there was people talking
about you and I were talking about it before.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We were talking about Yes, we were talking about it
years before. But the the whole undertone of this, and
it gets it gets deeper and deeper into the book,
you begin to understand more deeply the blood rituals, the
killing of babies, the the producing of the fear in babies,
(34:52):
which then they take this drug out of the baby's blood.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
What is the drug, Well, it creates something called it adrenochrome.
We we kind of we we I knew it was crou.
I didn't know what it was back then, and that's
the truth. I didn't know what it was. I think
I had it once. But we call it getting chromed.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Very powerful.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, And so the bab the victims that they use
in the blood rituals aren't the ones that they drained
to get their drink. That's that's a whole different manufacturing center.
That's where you know, like ed Scene's baby farm, That's
that's what those are for. We're adrenochrome, Yeah, that's that's
where they that's it involves.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Frightening the child in order to get this these uh,
I guess hormones into the bloodstream, which they then mind.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, the whole thing is very scientific, very very biological.
They have it down to a science. That's why they
choose children too, is because children can't control their their
fear responses as as well as as adults, and they
over they overload very quickly, especially when they start crying,
you know, and they get they get in that weird,
uh sort hyperventilating mode. That's kind of what they're they're
(36:09):
they're they're striving for. Adults don't really do that anymore,
but children do once they get into that hyperventilating mode,
and then they reach a point that they're ready for harvest.
I really hate talking like this, but it's a fact
of life.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, I mean again, we're we're talking about these things
not to sensationalize them, but because it's important for everybody
to understand what goes on.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
It is and people are. People are, Like I said,
people are. I can see if people are catching on.
I never would have never thought I would talk about
I never thought I would be doing this right now.
I mean, I'm old enough now that doesn't scare me.
What are they going to do? But there's enough people
talking about it now that that something's gonna happen one
way or another. Something soon is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well, I think the just the writing of the book
and be creating this part of the website of coorsin
Nation is uh shocking a lot of people. But what
happens with this book is you read it. At first
it seems like it's hard to keep going, and then
it gets addictive. I mean you read it right to
the end, and people get to be fascinated with it
(37:15):
in terms of you know, is deeper deeper, the darker
and darker it gets. And then then there's an attempt
by Roger to pull out of it, which is equally
difficult because you don't leave this. You don't leave this
called easily. You lose everything. In the process of losing everything,
(37:36):
you're abandoned and left hopeless. No money, no connections, no
nobody responding to your phone calls.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yea. And especially for someone like Roger who doesn't really
there's no you know, there's no there's nobody really to
go to at that point. There's there's there's no there's
no network, there's no family, there's no there's nothing left.
Just that makes it even hard. It makes it hard,
but also makes it a lot easier. It's easier to hide,
but it makes it really hard to going. You know,
going out on your on your own, completely on your
own like that is difficult.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, the summoning up of this dark power and the
living in this Luciferian hatred on the what it leads
to in terms of the sexual rituals or the blood rituals,
or the suicides or all of these things are in
a sense demonic because their their counter life. There their
(38:28):
hate life. They're filled with hate. They're destructive, right, and
there's nothing positive about any of this. The pleasure is
taken in someone else's pain or embarrassment or abuse or
torture or murder, and and the pleasure derived from that
(38:50):
is the heightened experience, the heightened appreciation of a higher
level in which this kind of behavior is an expression
of power. Mm hmm, dark power and the worship we
get that dark power.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, you know, as you know, I was very apprehensive
about writing this book because I thought people would either
consider me some kind of monster or a liar. But
I'm finding that people really aren't doing it either. They're
they're actually bonafidely interested, not in a not in a
morbid way, but in a you know, I need to
know more about this because I'm seeing it too. We're
(39:26):
starting to see it too, you know. You know I
want to know more. You know.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Well, as more interviews we do, the more accessible we
make it to people when we start talking about it,
the more I think people are going to want to
read it and want to know more in depth of
what it's all about. And it's you know, it took
you a long time to do the first one and
to learn how to write, and to learn how to
(39:54):
tell a story and to construct the characters and make
the narrative flow. But I think you come along way
in that ability, and these.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Are that's as a result of hook it up with you,
which to me is, you know, is a god thing.
I never I couldn't have written this book if I
didn't ran into you.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
But the fact that it's written is you know, your experience,
what you went through and then you got out.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Of it allows you now to expose this world for
what it is, and so things that people experience and
watch on television and see, you know, happening in Hollywood
or happening in New York City, or happening in any
of the glitterati you know, which looked bizarre.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
It fits into this dark power logic, which is fundamentally
destroying other people are destroying their dignity, destroying their sexuality,
destroying their families, just destroying their image of themselves, demeaning rituals,
which you know are very very base.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Everything is exact opposite of the love of God.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's exactly. It has nothing to do with nurturing God.
Love advance all negative destruction, and the power is all
negative destruction. So it's the best comprehension. I think that
through the story that you can get of what evil
is really like. And it's kind of banal. I mean,
(41:28):
it's kind of almost pathetic. It's it's it's so bizarre
and evil, you'd say, how can anyone possibly indulge in this,
except that it has the dominance over another, it has
the characteristic of power and serving evil, and as such,
it's it becomes seductive.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
H you'd agree, I do, especially when you're you're rewarded
so greatly.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, it's it's and these are the ones who succeed.
Everything they do, touches to go, everything that touch comes
to gold.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
And so as you as you're going down that path,
you can see the people at the other end, and
these are the people that are the richest people on
the planet. Yeah, and that's you know, that's where you're heading.
That's you know, how else you know, you know, it's
it's amazing that you've e been on that path and
you want to get there. You want to be one
of those I want to have seven mansions, you know,
all over the world, big bunker.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, I'm going to recommend that everybody get the and
read the Silicon Satan and get into understanding how what
we're really seeing in this Luciferian elite, and you know,
the power of the prestige, the privilege that these people
are awarded comes from these dark arts of rituals that
(42:50):
are almost so frightening they're hard to read the first time.
After you've read it a bit, and after you've gotten
into it, it becomes you become kind of it's desensitized
to it. And even then it's frightening because you begin
to find yourself understanding and accepting this as a world
that's you know, the viable that exists, that it's hidden
(43:14):
at dark and the seductive power of that is great,
and so you have to make a decision, is this
which path are you going to go down? And I
think we're seeing increasingly more people are understanding and waking
up to say they reject this path.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's not just it's not just keeping people off the path,
it's it's getting rid of the people. It's getting rid
of the path. You got to get rid of the path.
I mean, all people don't need to be that rich.
You don't need to be that wealthy. You know. I
saw a study where just to be divided all the
all the wealth in the world, everybody gets fifteen thousand
dollars per lifetime. So why do these people have so
much they don't need, They're never going to spend it.
It's just it's just power and position.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And self glorification exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, I mean, the solution is to get rid of
the solution is to make I remember my grandfather was wealthy,
but he was embarrassed by he hit as wealth and everybody,
all of all the men did back then. You know,
wealth is something that you just kind of kept quite
in brag about it. Now you're bragg it down and
your brag about greed is considered a good thing.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
All right, Well, Craig, thanks for coming back, and we'll
do more of this. We'll keep her into the story,
we'll read more of it. Well, I'll get and watch
some of your We'll get into what's on the website
and look at some of these videos. There's quite a
bit more. I want to make this a regular feature
of the show. I want to build you as an author,
get people to pay attention to the works and get
(44:42):
into it, because I think it's only accessible through the
fictionalization of it, which makes it readable and understandable in
terms of the psychology. But it's still horrific.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Well, thanks for having again.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, Well, it's great, great pleasure to have here in
the sense it's it's never easy, it's never really fun.
But the pleasure in it is I want to shed
light on this, and the pleasure is really in the
uncovering and the illuminaty this darkness, because it's it's ultimately weak,
(45:21):
it's ultimately self destructive, it's ultimately a lie, and once
people understand that, it loses its attractiveness. But again, it's
going to be an exploration into darkness in order to
emerge back into the light. Okay, Sector Drone Corsi, and
(45:45):
we've been talking with Craig Lund, who is the author
of Silicon Satan. We have a section of the website,
of course, The Nation dot Com dedicated to Craig's continuing writing.
You get to see the new novel in progress and
sections being published on corsination dot com with animations, and
it's a fascinating topic. And I think we're going to
(46:06):
do ultimately. I see this could be a series of
Netflix or a series somewhere or other, because this is
going to have to be dramatized. We're gonna have to
be shown to people in a way that it becomes
mass market property and shown for the fact that it
is evil and has got to be resisted. Okay, Doctor
(46:26):
John Corsi, thank you for joining us. And then God
always wins. God will win here too, and I think
it's bird the second Chronicle seven fourteen. We have to
ask God to forgive us for letting it get to
this evil point, and God will hear our prayer and
heal our land. Any final thoughts Craig.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Today, Nope, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Thanks, Okay, thank you for joining us this Coursenation dot com.
We're doing podcasts every weekday. Thank you for joining us,
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