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Speaker 1 (00:01):
More angel of course. Now we have a really special
guest today. This is uh doctor Yan Yan is joining us.
Doctor Yan has fought a courageous battle to get the
truth out about the COVID pandemic. Now doctor Jan is
coming out with her own her own podcast. So you
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at four pm on Saturday and Sunday, she's going to
be broadcasting on the America out Loud Talk Radio Network
and so you can follow her either on the live
broadcast with the America out Loud Talk Radio Network again
four pm on Saturday and Sunday, and that will also
(00:45):
be the show will also be then posted on all
the traditional channels Rumble, et cetera, where you can also
seek out the America out Loud Talk Radio Network and
doctor Yan y a n doctor Jan's program. Okay, and
Chris is showing you on the screen that the voice
of doctor Yan and this is her program Saturday Sunday
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on the America out Loud Network. And I'm going to
encourage everybody to pay attention to this. It's going to
be extremely important. Doctor Gan has played a major major
role in getting this all, in getting this all broadcast
around the world. What really happened during the COVID pandemic. So,
doctor Jan, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thank you, Doctor Hersey, it's my honor to join your shoe.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, you've been extremely courageous and I can't tell you
how much I admire your honesty and what you've done.
I would like to have you tell us your story
because you came out of China, and you came out
of China and to tell the truth about what was
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going on with COVID, and so why don't you take
the stage here and explain to us how you got
here and what your motivations were. Give us a story.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So, yeah, it is complicated, but I try to simplify
it for our audience. So briefly, when I worked as
a University of Hong Kong the WHO reference app for
Emerging infectious Disease back to thirty first December twenty nineteen,
when at that time I was post off fellow, my supervisor,
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the WHO expert doctor Dupong, asked me to conduct a
secret investigation and the mysterious novel pneumonious passage and virus
happening in Uhan, And turns out we know that it's
COVID nineteen virus now and so My investigation started based
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on my own extensive network in mainland China because I
grew up in mainland China. I obtain my MD and
the PhD degree from two top medical universities, and I
have a lot of friends working in the laboratories hospital,
both military or the civil field. So it turns out
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at that time I was also warned that I need
to be careful now, don't cross the redland. If I
don't keep silence, that no one can help me. And
my investigation from both who Hunt and also Beijing as
well as other places in China, including from Headicarter cityc
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office in Beijing and also the local hospital actually only
told me that China was covering up the novel coronavirus
pandemic outbreak at that time in Wuhan. And also more
investigation made me realize that it's not only a simple
outbreak from the animal Actually it is even not the
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simple spill over from the MAP accident. I work in
the LAP I know how map accident means, but that's
not a MAP accident. So finally, until middle of January
twenty twenty, when I say my feedback to this wh team,
those who experts are getting suppressed and also they keep
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working with China to cover off the choes and to
promote the nature origin theory until nineteenth January twenty twenty.
I decided, I decided to deliver this message the information
I connected with my analys to the Moulder media which
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is the most influential anti SCP media based on based
in New York, on YouTube channel in Chinese. And also
I convinced the host Luder to let his audience know
the significant TNS of this information. And it turns out
my information triggered Sitting Pink Office and CCP because of
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the accuracy just withing four hours, China immediately announced that
human to human transmission wassing twenty four hours human to
human transmission of the COVID nineteen virus. And also just
wasing four hours at that time in the middle midnight
of China, Chinese garment tripled the case numbers from sixty
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two to from like sixty two to over one hundred
and ninety. And also later they quickly three days later
they post will handlocked down. And also my revelation from
that type include that this is not from the nature
and there is no animal host like recorn dogs. Instead,
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this outbreak comes from the Chinese Communist Party and the
People's Vibration Army control app which is military civil fusion,
and that was the virus was created based on a
very unique type of the Kerna virus which was called
they say forty five, and also there is a train
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virus called they actually twenty one. These virus were connected
by People's Vibration Army from eastern China near Shanghai Joshan
area from the bad and then they cultivated them in
the map and then they found these backbones very useful
and then after that amount of Chinese scientists involved into
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the modification of these bad virus and turns out they
add amount of function, make it weaponized and finally it
becomes the mold destricate novel Krona virus, which is a
novel on restricted weapon for Chinese Communist Party. And the
outbreak in Wuhan was not from the accident. We not
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have solid evidence shows that it comes from a Chine
Communist Party and the People's Vibration Army's military exercise and
at least the things end of September of twenty nineteen,
city has approval the Chane militry to release these virals
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from the BSL for web to the community for certain
purposes to infect some people in the community. However, later
it got out of control because of the high transmissibility,
and then they keep CARA up. They thought it came
under the control. Finally when they see the count country
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aid they intentionally had its spill over the world and
caused the pandemic. So yeah, because of my relation, I
need to escape from Hong Kong at the end of
April twenty twenty before Chines Communist the party disppear me.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Right that, I mean, you've said a lot. I want
to go back over some of it's it's critical what
you really the information you release, you put your life
in danger to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, I have to do that because before I made
the decision to reveal these information through molder media, I
was an audience of mooded media too, and I know
how risky it means. Actually, at that time I thought
even the moment I contact mister mood CCP could immediately
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I identify me through the network and then they could
immediately dispear me like how they disappear the Hong Kong
protest pro democracy protesters. But for me I'm a doctor
and also I'm a viur ologist. When I see the
information I collected, I know what it means. When I
see the scientific evidence, and with my understanding of CCP,
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I know what it means. So for me, I cannot
stay there, keep hiding it with my supervisor and colleagues.
And also I know the larger outbreak or even the
pandemic will happen quickly if we don't counture it as
soon as possible. In middle Middle Genuary of twenty twenty.
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I can't image how terrible it would be. Such a
because such a quick mutant virus bill over all over
the world. And I just feel that if I don't
let people know what I know, I don't let people
know the truth, I will be regretful for my whole life.
So I must tell people to choose.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Now the couple of things. First of all, when you
so you get asked to come in and see what's
going on with this new virus, and you begin to
investigate it, and you realized that it was not produced
by animal transmission. Now, what was how did you come
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to that conclusion? What led you to conclude it wasn't
animals that were as pretty because the original story coming
out of China was that it was a bat virus
that spilled over to human beings. And how did you
realize that that was a lie and that it had
been maybe a bat virus initially collected in Shanghai, but
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then enhanced in the laboratory so that its gain of
function or its ability to cause mortality or morbidity had
been intensified. What led you didn't come to that conclusion?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Because i'ms of our artists in the WHO reference lab.
I worked for the margin infectious disease including the flu
virus and law coronavirus happened. I work on the SUS
covid too, and my lab is the ranking top one
chronavirus map in twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, because that
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is the map discovers the such one animal hosts and
also studied amount of sas one after that MERGS Mideast
coronavirus syndrome. Also our map conducted amount of very important
studies there, so we have amount of I mean we
have extensive knowledge on coronavirus in that lab and also
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actually based on the scientific evidence, which means the genome
sequence of the covid nineteen virus in Wuhan, you also
can see solid smoking gun evidence. It's like the fingerprints,
so everyone has special fingerprints. And also for me in
my role at that time, it's very muchly like the
forensic examiner. So when I go back to say all
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this evidence scientific evidence based on genome sequence and based
on the previous publications from People's vibration and the other
Chinese labs and of our team, and also combine the
UH other circumstantial evidence I connected. For example, for people
who work with Uhan Institute Biology in Beijing City C
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they know that the China government suppressed intentionally to suppress
all these UH facts. And also the people in Wuhan,
they know that they don't need that kind of raccoon dog. Actually,
I want to add one detail that I was asked
to find out the evidence from UHA. Our information from
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Uhan to First City aid the raccoon dog intermediate house
theory in the saffood market. And that is because my
team was thirteen back to two thousand and three discovered
civic cat at sus one animal host and also during
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worth period, my lab is the map found out camera
as the animal host of merth so for Chinese Communist Party,
when they need to create a perfect nature original narrative,
they need someone who has this kind of credibility in
this field to add this kind of evidence. And I
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was chosen by them to come back this. So if
I work with them as what they expected, I provide
so called evidence that yeah will have people eat Rapcoron dog,
and we believe that rapcon dog is the animal host,
then it will be very easy for China to put
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this story and blame recorond dog as the animal host. However,
as I said, the scientific evidence shows that not only
one but multi sections GET intends intends to be a
modified and the functions added in the virus is not
beneficial to human body at home. Instead, these are the
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harmful potential or potential harmful function which could recall that
game of function. And when you say so many gains
of function together in a virus, definitely it doesn't mean
it's like the prepared neess for vaccine development or for
the good purpose and study. This is to weaponize the passage.
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And for the audience, if you want a carefully exam
all these evidence I provide, I would recommend them to
read three yengryports published from September twenty twenty to March
twenty twenty one on the nodel by my teams in research.
You can find the link from my chreating and I
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put it in the pinktis. There are over millions of
the views and doumbles of these three papers. Now, so
the amount of discrimination, their amount of defamation, but there
is no any scientists could bring the real evidence to
refute any pond. In the envy parts, it explained how
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these kind of virus was used in different labs and
the potential with a vary Muchlet route that how they
made this kind of modification in the mass using the
existing technology, with the evidence and also plus the misinformation
they created based on the nature origin theories, falst fied
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data and the main people's operation army and the US
scientists involved that and their amount of explanation.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yes, I remember in the within January twenty twenty and
I first saw there was a group of scientists in
India and they published a article in this medical journal
Bio rxiv and they showed that the genome of this
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stars two or the stars that became COVID nineteen had
this spike protein. It had HIV one gycoprotein one mapped
into it. Now, I'm sure that sounds like what you
found was there HIV was there HIV spike protein material
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mapped in? Is that what what weaponized COVID nineteen.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, I didn't say that in my yarypas of the interview.
The thing is there amount of modification in the COVID
nineteen virus, and in my yar repasts and in my interview,
I present the most of the smoking gun out of this,
and there are some other kind of modification, whether successful
or maybe not successful, but leave certain residue evidence in
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the backbone in the virus sequence. I didn't emphasize that
because first I know that my evidence I presented because
of continuous, continuous my threats I received from trans Communist Party,
I would be disappeared at any moment if they found me.
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So I want mine in reports can leave the evidence
that even after hundreds of years, when people go back
to see this report, if they want to dig out
the truths of COVID nineteen, they could get the very
sommit evidence to help them find out the truth. And
I also encourage other scientists to choose their own idea
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because even though the HIV in certain may not be
the sommit evidence in the sequence of COVID nineteen, still
it doesn't mean China has no idea to use HIVS
knowledge or the part of the UH maybe the material
to UH to weaponize the COVID nineteen virus, because according
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to my knowledge in these virus it already has combination
of knowledge from the high passages even through like the
HI and what we know now, and also UH they
have the knowledge they learned from other coronavirus like SSS
one and MORS as well as some other diesel passages.
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So this is a combination of out of dangerous functions
based on the backbone of bad coronavirus from keep House
Liberation Army to become the SUS COVID two. And for
that paper actually it published around ten days after my
reflation at that time actually a trans communist partly because
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of my varration and my kid pushing the update through
modern media, they have already moved and just to within
twenty four hours after my first relilation, a bad women
journey in Wuhai Institute of our Ology has to throw
out her not real's bad ancestor ig is thirteen virals
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which they claimed discovered from western China, Unan province, and
that is actually may bait to attract the scientists go
to focus on our TG thirteen virals which is not
exist in the nature at all, which is fabricated in
their maps based on some partial sequencing collected from Una Province,
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and that well, need people get into the midst of
maybe this is the nature ev e motion that there
was a virus from Yuna with ninety six percent similarity
to U. Siskoeto and somehow just evolved in the human
society and then jumped to human So that is totally
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their false fied narrative based on fALS fied data. And
because of my reformation, I pointed out the real backbone,
they say back, they say forty five and they actually
twenty one. These two virus they have to quickly cover
it up and that talks a lout of troubles. So
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around the time the Indian scientists published that article on biolacy,
which is a preprint h website Onset group, the fat
article which was met by doctor Peter Dustshat and the
Batman in five one was already in preparation. If you
check for your email from Peter Dustshot at the end
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of thirty U. I think on February first, twenty twenty,
he already claims that in the past week our team
has prepared the draft for other scientists to SUN and
to publish Mindset, which is now Everyone should be familiar
with that twenty seven scientist the Sun. The Mindset paper
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claim sas COVID to come from nature, including my supervisor
Leo Poem.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So was that article that was published India correct? Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You mean the Mindset article?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, the one that was published in the by the
Indian in January twenty twenty, that Indian.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Actually, I don't think it's I won't say that is
a very good comedy article. I should say that they
do have seen something suspicious, but I have read that article.
For me, I think their animize is not strong enough.
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And also the most important thing is because the segment,
for example, the GPGP one twenty of HIV when they
parted of the suspicious part is too short for people
to identify whether this is only from UH the based
on some GP one twenty uh protein, or maybe that
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is some kind of modification for other purpose. During the
map work or maybe that is, UH maybe include some
kind of random change during this kind of UH map work.
So anyway, I know that a lot of HIV researchers
believe that HIV was used in developed the COVID nineteen virus,
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and I don't deny that. I hold my open mind.
My question is, UH, we may need to ask people's
vibration army scientists, CP.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Science what's the best you have UH conduct this or
that kind of UH pairment when they developed sas COVID
too before that, we can't make the conclusion that those
evidence described in that Indian paper really means UH some
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summit things.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So it's possible, But you say it's not conclusive their article.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I didn't. I don't think I have side them in
the in my entry part because that's not studied enough
according to my knowledge.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Did you did you really identify how they weaponized the
COVID nineteen, were able to pin down precisely what they
did or you just knew that they had done it?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Did you don't have pined down that UH multi functional
UH enhancement in the Sachkov two virus based on the
first sequence they published from uhan so uh. In my
enery part, especially in the first entry part way uh
we saecifically talking about the smoking gun evidence. It includes
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first for the S one protein, they have modified the
recept binding domain, especially the most core part recept banding motives,
and that is the part which will help which will
make the virus to catch the human as to recept her.
So this binding domain and the jution back coronavirus in
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that backbone virus, it doesn't band human. However, the scientists,
especially we identify the smoking evidence smoking gun evidences like
copy paste that kind of restricted enzyme evidence to show
the batwomanly and her partner refund. Based in University of Minnesota,
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they have copy paste something based on their knowledge in
SUS one coronavirus. And because SUS one coronavirus can bind
the human is into very well, so they just shift
this recept binding motive into the sech covid two and
to carry it up they also try to modify some
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unnecessary amino acay. So that means uh, if you think
about the recept binding domains like the finger to catch
the things, they make all the fingerticks exact the same
as what happened in sas one and but the other
side may be different, so that will reduce people's suspicion
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when they see these virus. And then they also add
fur and carnilage side. I mean now people well known
about that, but furion carnilridge side is not the most
important thing because without binding domain change uh furin carninlage
side cannot make the virus just hold the receptor. Basically,
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furin corninlage side is to amplify the function of the
recept binding domain, make it better go into the virus,
better go into the cells and binding with the domain
and then infect the people. So also like there are
even the small indicator evidence shown in the furin carnilage side,
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which means during their modification they don't want this uh
fur in caninlage side get lost when they are doing
other experiments, so they need the indicator inside to always
show that. When they run the like the Western blocks
these kind of protein essays, they could say okay, yes,
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still after this is following up experiments, furinkinilage site still there.
And also like uh I can identify that the subs
copto virus before it go to human population. It definitely
went through the humanized mouth UH serial persons and because
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I personally have a lot of human passage experience experience
in the universal of Hong Kong, and that is basically
to make the mouth which carries the human receptor, can
help the virus to get used and better adopt to
the real UH body invironment with human as to recept her.
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And this kind of serial passage actually becomes the most
important reason to increase the transmissibility. But trans Communist Party
scientist ignored that they use the mouth model, that is
the wrong model. They have to use the golden serial
hamster model and in the right setting to exam the transmissibility,
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which is I'm the first UH in the team to
my team, and I am the first author to publish
the Nature paper in Matu de turn talking about this
pop using my using our data and under estimate of
transmissibility is also the reason cast outbreak in Wuhan. By
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I mean, besides that, there is also some other important evidence.
One is E protein envelope protein that is a protein,
although we still don't know what exactly function it is
in coronavirus, but we do know that based on the
knowledge from that one that especially my team Professor Manic
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Periods had found that if you change this E protein
even for very few two or three amino acid during
the transmission or during the experiment, then the suddenly the
whole chronavirus may stop amplifying. That means it dies, it
cannot keep in fact people. So how to avoid this
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kind of random mutant happens to prevent the work functionally
in fact people, then they remove the E protein during
their modification and after the motification of the mapt or
part of this whole virus again they add the E
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protein back to keep it exactly the same as what
they found from jos Bad coronavirus. So that means when
you see one hundred percent identical amino aci happening in
E protein with the jus Bad coronavirus, you know it
never happened no matter in nature or someone intends to
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preserve this sequence. And also that's why and after I
revealed the backbone in January twenty twentyd and also other
KOA scientists when they publish the falsi fied data like
the Pangdling virus handling SUTs like virus or other virus
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come from in an IT setting. They all need to
show that, oh, they have the same E protein exactly
the same because they know that it's a weakness. So
they need to just push out amount of falsified virus
with the same identical E protein to just to change
the nature principle. But it cannot be changed because you
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just go to examine some early stage mutant sequence among humans,
you will see in a very limitted range of transmissibility
transmission E protein already mutant between the initial one and
the later sequence. So they are buying and they create
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amount of flights to further establish the fALS fied principle
force Fie narrative, and this is the muge scaled scandal
in our academic history. Artist one. Also they have uh
They have replaced one section in or IF one uh
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a B to the of the Siskov two. That section
is a short sequence called r d ir P, So briefly,
this is the enzyme happened in the different coronavirus. But
if you can have a unique r d i P sequence,
that means, according to the previous study, it could be
a very special treat target, treatment target. That's why this team,
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using the partial sequence they connected from Una Province, they
called it four nine one, and then that special r
d i P replaced the bad coronavirus r d i P,
and that's why a lot of researchers still now they
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thought the sus cow comes from Venna because the I
identical of r d IP sequence and later even some
modern antibodies that in army stage of the pandemic, the
really focused on this RDIP to produce the treatment.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It's fascinating, I mean, so you've really described a complex
process of weaponizing the virus and then disguising that it
was weaponized, and then making it look like it came
from nature when it didn't come from nature, and putting
out this information would throw the scientists off. So it's
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a complex operation.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It is very complex. It has to be conducted using
the national power. That's why it's not a single map accident.
And I know from the beginning of my investigation, I
was told by the Beijing City c professional professors at
Uhan Institute of Virology one actually I didn't have any accident,
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and they work well because they have identified the virus
sequence in middle December of twenty nineteen from the patient
and the China government asked them to keep silence and
place the okay profile, not let people be suspicious about
the Wuhan Institute of Virology and then post upon the
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mat That kind of facts they keep cover up.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Now, how did they release it? When they decided to
release it, how do they release it?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Was Actually there's still some details, I mean, we don't understand.
But according to the evidence we have from our sources
in people's viboration armies that they SAP in September twenty nineteen,
one month before the military games happened in Wuhan, they
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have conducted military exercise and the Uhan International Airport which
is a civil airport Kinker Airport, and in that airport,
actually they claim they have conducted two scenarios, which is
one is a person come from other country who was
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identified detected with the novel coronavirus infection with symptoms in
the custom of that airport and then he was treated
isolated and finally everything goes well. So this is one scenario.
Another scenario is a person carries a radioactive sand from
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another country and also get detected and get prevented major
problems in China. So these two scenarios actually before China
confirm them, there was confidential meetings about the contents, and
the confidential meeting held in Wuhan before the exercise was
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hosted by the General direct which is was a major
general named one one Chain at that time. But later
within two or three years he quickly got promoted to
be the top ranking general and even last December City
being awarded him again. So one mun Chen uh made
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the decision with the Uhan Institute Virology and the real
military side military arm of Uhai Institute of Virology which
is called Wuhan An Institute of Biological Product that is
one of the initial by weapons Institute for People's Liberation
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Army and Uha Institute of Virology is basically just the
civil arm to the front of this sacred military and
civil military industry behind it. So these leaders, the scientists
experts appear in the same meeting and after discussion they
decide to use the real such covid to virus which
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they already produced and storage in their by weapon the
BSL formapp in Wuhan to infect certain people certain targets
in the excise and they believe they could country it.
So that was the earliest evidence we have how this
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virus finanial was bring out from thes BSL format and
infect people in the community.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
What was why did they do that?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
What do they want to achieve?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh yeah, so I also have the same question, though
I have also done my investigation and I have talked
to our sources. The thing is CICYP definitely have their
own purposes and we can't know all of their motives
until we ask them. But according to even their own
documents that for example, in twenty fourteen the fourteen to
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twenty fifteen People's Vibration Army about weapon scientists, she has
published a document the topic. The title is subs COVID
one non nature origin and using coronavirus as a new
genetic by weapon against the people and the whole over
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two hundred pages document talking on the scientific and also
the related tactics of using coronavirus to develop the new
mold deaths rate by weapon. And I'm the first to
review this document in English speaking world. So especially in
this document, they specify that to get the coronavirus based
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novel about weapon except better and the society against the enemies,
you need to do the trial and the same environment.
That means to using humans in humans community to make
it optimal and also based on the sources from People's
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Liberation Army, we received that it's not the first time
China and it's not the most time trans communist party
using the novel but weapon candidates to infect their own
citizens for the optimized effects of these candidates or doing
some tests. But this sounds very evil and it's too
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difficult for people, especially Western people to believe. So I
would like to tell you that they have different purposes
and they already have shown their motive and purposes some
of their multiple purposes in their own document, and you
could keep an open mind until the day we look
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into the maps in Wuhan and controlled by People's Liboration
Army other maps, and we need to ask those core
team members and we especially need to ask the CGP
why you can't do this kind of anti human uh
projects and all this kind of human trial related by
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weapon projects need to be approved by c GP because
he is the director directed all these prot projects all
by himself and CICIP called the bout weapon is pro
mance nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So do they you think it was a test to
see if it worked or was it that? What did
they really mean to infect and kill people.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
The thing is according to that document, those documents and
evidence we have, some of them we can't disclose because
of the concern of the risk of our sources. For
the military excise. They don't want to cause outbreak in Vuhan,
that's for sure, and that's why that part is kind
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of accident. But to make certain people infect the sus
COVI two virus, and I don't think the target themselves
understand their zole in this excise that is very anti
human and that is purported and that requires gmpin's approval
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and military collaboration with civil scientists to conduck it. We
even have amount of details of that military exercise, like
how they bring the virus away from Uhai Institude of
Virology to avoid people's surveillance, and then how they transfer
them to the code room and the uh that's why
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they called cold Cold supply chain can suppread virus because
they know code room is a good storage for the
virus during the excise and also for this exercise, People's
operation Army initially be deal it was successful. That's why
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she thinking came to Uhan for the open ceremony of
the opening ceremony of military exercise. And we also need
to know that it also takes a while for people
who carry the coronavirus in the community very few people
or group of people to spread it. Autumatic becomes the
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much scaled outbreak. So basically between the September when they
let some people infect it and send the people to
at least who have airport and then until the moment
which I assume should the outbreak realally become the much
skilled people starts notice should be from Army November uh
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to middlet know umbum. So during that period my question
I still okay, my own question is was the military
excises the early time they release it or do they
also release it for other purposes between that period, because
for experiments sometimes you know in the maps you were
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using different dose in different conditions to get the best result.
So was there other kind of SEMA secret operation conducted
using the virus and they thought it was safe, but
the matter it got outbreak, or maybe there are some
other even evil purposes they again release the virus, because
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why do they have this excise one month before the
military game and why do they make the topic is
someone come to the military game or detected with novel coronavirus,
and they claim that military excise was to protect the
military game going safe in Wuhan. So altogether, I have
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my own questions. That's why some details we still don't know.
But we do know that the at least in September
twenty twenty nineteen, they released it and the major we
also have other evidence show. In January twenty twenty, CCP's
very senior minister in the government has claimed in a
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private conversation that the military exercise in Wuhan get out
of control. That's why Wuhan had an outbreak.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So it probably with the military exercise got out of
control and then it spread and began spreading worldwide over time.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, and then they realized, hey, wait, these virus get
even more advantage than we thought, say, it can spread
so quickly on air, and then that is what we
want when we start is about weapon because that was
described in many documented by People's liberation Armies BOUL weapons expert.
So later when they finished the car up, they already
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post upon the period to reduce foreigners the overseas vigimens
and they have created the nature I mean perfect the
nature origin theory and publish them. Thence they might it
spread all over the world and try to mislead you
for all the uh themated issues.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
It's it highlights the dangers of doing this type of
research of gain function research on bioweapons, and that how
are you going to ensure that it doesn't get out,
especially if you're going to test it.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Now that's the pound not only the pounder of the
danger it is in a dictator country in the communist regime,
when they spend a huge efforts manpower, money corrupt, it
makes the American or other scientists corrupted provide them technology
and even though you're funding to do the things. So
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altogether it's not about about the about safety issue of
gain of function, actually about safety issue can be controlled
because for the dictatorship, they know that this is their
promised nuclear weapon. They know how to control the nuclear weapons,
so they know how to control the BOUT weapon. Even
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though there was any about safety issue, it count costs
such big outbreak like what happened in Wuhan. The thing
is when they have the BOUT weapon, it's not only
a gain of function, it's already fined beyond the gain
of function issue. It's weaponize and when they weaponize it,
the goal is final goal is to target They are
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enemies that include people in China who don't listen to CCP,
and especially if that means the United States and the
US allies, you are their primary enemy. And they made
it definitely they won't use it, and that's why they
make it unrestricted. That means they make it looks like
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from nature and they could deny, they could reject, and
they could let you have no evidence to prove. For example,
Now US people always they will want hard evidence, and
China won't give you hard vidence because there is even
not much hard evidence. You won't expect the records that
she can talk to other generals that okay, go to
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release this virus that's nonsense. So they know how to
cover up the thing that is perfect crime. And when
they spend all this kind of energy in using national
power to do that, you won't expect they will just
leave them in their asena. Especially now you say China
openly admitted US is their enemy.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Was were are scientists involved with Wuhan? Did we funded?
Did we did the National Health or any of our
institute government agencies participate in Wuhan?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
The thing is US government is not a big government
like China control everything by some dictator. So there are
individuals in your government were corrupted and also indirectedly involved
into that. Why I say that because except for the
city agents working in the US agencies, I know that
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we have actualized these terms. We have provided to federal agencies,
including the people working still in an age and in
other important departments that CCP's spice agents. But like people
as Peter Dushak and Ros Barrick Uh, they are more
like the youthful idiot. It doesn't mean they are real stupid.
(47:58):
The thing is they are corrupted China, and if you
check their interviews you will see even back to two
thousand and three. At that time two thousand and two,
two thousand and three, before such one outbreak, no one
aroundly care about Rough Bark or Peter Dasha and their studies,
and no one cares about Peter Hawk's vaccine work. However,
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after the SASS, these people are gradually recognized by CCP
and approach by CICP and PR scientists. They bring them
to China, invite them to collaborate, and then these people
become China to fusing Americans knowledge technology and the social
network to China and bring the taxpayers money to China,
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and China also gives them a lot of personal benefit,
promote them to be the leading voice in this field
to help China. And the part is even China didn't
get the taxpayers money from us, China still have enough
money to develop their own by weapons. But I mean
they are greaty so if they can stow something from you,
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they of course love it. And also for the technology
even these scientists didn't give China, China still has sent
thousands of thousands academic scientists, academic spices. Uh can be students,
can be the scarmars, and they get all these knowledge
they need, Uh just carry it back to China one
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piece and one piece. And because the actually the bio
technology is not that high advanced in they get a
function weaponized virus field. So i'tgether even without Faulty, without
Peter Dasha, without Raptberry. As long as you might CICP
city and Americans thought CCP is your friend, as they
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pretend in the past for decades, then they have already
numerous methods to bring your things to China, to develop
Chinese communist parties weapons and then go back to destroy
your life.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
So how many more weapons is China developing or working
on could yet be released.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
We don't have the exact data, but I can tell
you by end of twenty twenty one to early twenty
twenty two we do have, the sources told us for sure,
and at that time in BSL formap in Uhan, there
were over thirty type of the bad weapon candidates. That
means they're already manufacturer developed and they could be ready
(50:34):
to release, or maybe they still need to undergo more
human animal experiment for to optimize the functions. And anyway,
the sources cried, the sources really get so scared to
know all these things. And the source told us, let
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Americans know that help us to Troy is that they
are evil.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
What's evil to do to be developing bioweapons because again
the potential for them escaping or for them to be
released intentionally, you know, with a depopulation agenda among the
globalists today, or depopulation being a political ideal. I don't
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think though the so far, you know, the idea when
they the COVID nineteen affected Chines killed the Chinese as
well as killing Americans, and there was no selective reason
it would not kill Chinese and kill Americans. That type
of a bioweapon has not yet been developed or released.
I hope it's not been developed with selectively kill.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Wait. I mean currently I don't think they have the
reality is kind of accurate bow weapon to separate Chinese
and Americans. And the first thing is there is a
scientific of stack Hall and we we're all human. We
Derman don't have so many specially difference. And the thing
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another thing is China doesn't really care. Yeah, they want
some kind of genetic different by weapon because the CCP
officials won't protect themselves, but for them. They also have
other ways, like they could isolate Chinese people to the
those kind of reconcentrate camp right and they call that
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is the big hospital. And they also could lock down
people in even Shanghai to like them die at home.
They don't really care about Chinese people. So the pot
is as long as they're by weapon can kill Americans
and there are always more Chinese people than Americans. That's
their idea. And also they could use small way. They
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prefer the small mode death sorry more death rate uh
coronavirus by weapon because it's not a may kill people.
See will maximum ly undermine your capacity by hurting you.
But in their documents they also mentioned it's the mold
destrict about weapons attacks the enemy and when the left
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over an uh enemy get recovered, at that time, we
already overcome them. They are still our labor force. So
this is another evil idea in their strategy. And by
the way, uh even nil. Now we still can see
pere A scientists working on the novel about weapon candidates.
(53:35):
For example, last months Peer Expert chastising to publish a
Boa like virus I mean I through the study, there
is no any explanation excused to see this is for
human beneficial Instead, they just tried some virus uh based
(53:56):
uh I mean modified with Obama and the students virus
which is the most liesel iboma and also Massa favor virus,
and finally they found that Obama like virus is the
best one. LIESO caused other injuries to the animals and
then that's up. So you can say that this is
another product in their bold weapons program.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
No other and ebola would be very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, And you know that master year master
of Augusta in Ridley, California, that there was a big
warehouse discovered which was claimed to be a bio map,
and actually it is an illegal UH warehouse just storage
tongues of the biochemical regious plus over twenty types of
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LIESO or infectious passages including iboma, HIV, HPVAY, COVID ninety.
And also the actual controller, Jesse Chu, who is arrested. Now.
We have identified him as a SACAP agent based on
our research, and we provide a UH investigative report to
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the federal agencies.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Well, I mean it's been fascinating. I'm sure you're I
want to pray that you continue to be safe and protected.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
And your courage to come out and explain all this
is remarkable, and then you've done a great service to
let everyone know what the reality of this is. It's
evil to this is research that should never be done.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
No, no, it should never be done.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
We don't need to be making diseases more lethal or
more morbidity. And this is evil to think that that's
we're going to apply all this time and all this
money and evil genius to killing people.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yes, and the actually not only targeting human I mean
for about weapons strategy one is one part is to
focusing on human Another part is focusing on human's food
supply chain. So for example, it's five and one the
high passages, the high passages even full actually already can
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stay there as the uh about weapons uh by weapon passage,
and for many many countries.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
It's it's a frightening world when these diseases can be
enhanced and released. And it's evil to think how the
human mind can imagine the killing is beneficial. But yet
(56:51):
it seems to be. You know, even among the Chinese
Communist Party, if you don't value life, there's too many
people and said people get old, they need care, you know,
so the ones that are going to be costly to
maintained and not particularly productive begun to find is useless
(57:14):
or dispensable or who cares? I mean, that's that's the
type of thinking that does not have an intrinsic value,
doesn't believe in God, doesn't see an intrinsic value in
human life, and there's no empathy for others dying. And
it sounds like that that is the mentality of the
Communist Party in China, and I'm sure shared by many
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around the world.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yes, and in China we have another world called tight
people actually is human mind. That means the communists a
government treat people just like the miners, and you dig
them out and send it after you, that is as
a disposal waste.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
And then you again go back to the moment, so
you can harvest organs, you can harvest energy, you can
whatever the human being can produce a value while you're
in the process of discarding them exactly, and.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
All the final purpose is to serve that regime, to
keep it going and to achieve the air wall.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
This is the best of doctor Jerome Corsi on the Truth.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Thank you very much for being with us. And let's
Chris again. Let's put up doctor John's program is going
to be If you put that on the screen will repeat.
It's going to be on This is on the America
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doctor Johan, Doctor John, thank you very much for joining us.
God bless you and God keep you safe.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Thank you, Doctor Caussey, and have a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Thank you very much. In the end, God always wins.
God will win here too, as dark as this seems,
because God is sovereign. God is going to make sure
this evil does not persist in the world. God is sovereign,
Satan doesn't win. And I encourage everyone and biblically, in
the spirit of Second Chronicles seven fourteen, we need to
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repent for every let the world get to this point.
Ask God to forgive us or doing these evil things,
and God will hear up heyer and heal our land.
But it's going to take a judgment of God to
get rid of this evil.
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