From Soviet Rule to DHS Target: One Man’s Story

Dr. Jerome Corsi speaks with Dmitry Kudryn, a Ukrainian-American who fled Soviet rule as a child and later found himself facing what he describes as years of wrongful persecution by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security during the Obama era.
After working to build a life, a business, and a future for his family in the United States, Dmitry says he became the target of repeated federal investigations and legal actions that he maintains were unfounded and retaliatory. He recounts how accusations — which he strongly disputes — led to severe personal, financial, and reputational damage, forcing him into prolonged legal defense while his livelihood collapsed.
🔥 What This Episode Explores
Dmitry’s journey from Soviet oppression to pursuing the American Dream
How federal agencies can exert overwhelming pressure on individuals
The cost of defending against repeated government accusations
The impact of prolonged investigations on families and small businesses
Broader concerns about due process, civil liberties, and bureaucratic power
This conversation raises serious questions about government accountability, due process, and what happens when individuals claim they are caught in the machinery of the federal system with limited recourse.
Dmitry tells his story in full — in his own words — on today’s episode of Corsi Nation.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
More angels, of course, this drone course. He and we
have two guests back that I'm really excited to get
back on the show. We are going to be interviewing
today Dmitri Kudrin, who's in Alaska, and he has a
legal case which you're going to find to be ridiculous

(00:22):
that he was prosecuted by the federal government and put
in prison for a year for an ad that he
ran on Craigslist selling a couch. This is the this
is the story of the weaponized justice and intelligence systems
we have around and this is this is one of
the more egregious chapters. We're going to insist upon this

(00:45):
one getting a pardon because I want to go after
the people who did this to Dmitri. And also with
this is Mike Nova. How are you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm very well. Thank you doctor Corson for having us.
You're always amazing. We love you great. Thank you for
what you're doing. I'm very excited to be here today.
Thank you, doctor Coursin and dmitriy.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, Mike, I have these two gentlemen explain how they
got to know each other. But Mike is Ukrainian and
he did a show with us for a full about
an hour explaining his involvement in Ukraine and is actually
working with Zelensky, the President of Ukraine, in Zelensky's office.

(01:25):
And the remarkable thing about Mike's interview was he documented
the amount of the egregious amount of cocaine these people
were consuming, I mean, and overdosing and over at overdosing
and don't know wise Zolensky is always touching his nose.
Mike has the explanation for it, and so therefore we

(01:47):
had a fascinating discussion. Now, you two gentlemen are both Ukrainian,
and how did you get to know each other? So
whoever wants to go first? Mike, you want to go first? Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, we were a refugee family plant My family was,
so was Dmitri's in Walla Walla, Washington, Washington State, and
we grew up together. Basically weren't super close, but we
got closer as we started supporting Donald Trump together in

(02:19):
this last reluction especially and I had read through the
memorandum that was written about Dmitri and I realized how
egregious this situation was. And again I'm so excited you
have doctor Corsi that you're tackling this with us.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Thank you so much for being the human that you are.
And this is really important to me. The childhood friend
of mine, like Dmitri which over at Craigslist Text, did
a year in prison. They took half over half a
million dollars from him, and it's just ridiculous. I want
and I'm willing to put my life on the line

(03:01):
to make sure that justice has served in the situation.
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, we're going to win this one. I've gotten pardons before.
I participated with Sheriff of Pyle and getting a pardon,
and the first Trump administration, I worked with Denesh Jsuza
extensively covered his trial, reported on it. I was reported
with WorldNetDaily dot Com. He got a pardon. So this
is not my first time to be down this route.

(03:27):
And we are going to win this one. Dmitriya is
gonna get a pardon now. D Meetri from your side
to want to tell your story of how you got
here from Ukraine, how you got connected with Mike.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, doctor COURSI thank you for having me. It's such
a pleasure to be here. Mike and I met in
Walla Walla, Washington. My family, I was four years of age,
came to Wallawallah, Washington from the former Soviet Union, and
we were the first family there after our family arriving
in nineteen eighty nine. Mike's family has paired and some

(04:00):
siblings arrived shortly thereafter in the early nineties, and we
spent approximately ten years in Walla Walla, Washington, just growing
up and attending a church, Sunday school class and activities
around the city. So it was a great time growing
up in the nineties in America and in a kind

(04:20):
of a farm country town. Amazing memories. And of course
in ninety nine I moved to Alaska when my family
moved up back in high school, and we kind of
got disconnected for a while there, but we found some
common ground when we will both realized how important was
for Donald Trump to be re elected as a forty

(04:41):
seventh president of the United States, and we just we
did everything we could to do what we could from
our side to assist with that.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, well, I can say I was up in Alaska
at Dimitri's invitation, stayed and his airplane hangar in which
he's got a complete like condominium built that we actually
flew his airplane around the last time. The most important
thing I think we did is we attended Christmas Eve
services at the church of Dimitri's Church, which was a

(05:12):
remarkably beautiful service, candlelight at the end. And then we
then we had a great dinner with all the Ukrainians.
And the major event in the dinner was the a
little contest and ok, you know, this group against this group,
and it was Bible questions that we were answering, and

(05:33):
I was I think the only one I really came
up with was the question of who had the first
submarine in the Bible? And I said, of course that
was Joan and the whale. But these are strong Christian
gentlemen with strong Christian families, and and both you're both

(05:53):
US citizens, correct.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yes, doctor Christian by the way, Yeah, that is correct, Booth,
US citizen, by the way. Back to your point, it
was it wasn't just Ukrainians that were there.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
There were Russians there too.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
In Alaska with us, and we were all getting along
just fine.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
We were all the thing that most people don't understand
about Ukraine because of our you know, our Neo Marxist
Communist Democratic Party that wants to go to war with Russia.
Ever since Russia the Berlin Wall came down, they renounced
communism and the Democrats, I'm sorry, the Democrat communists never
forgave them for that, and so they don't understand that

(06:32):
these two provinces that Putin has occupied are Russian speaking,
as is Crimea, and for a thousand years these two
provinces have been aligned with Russia. In fact, they're mostly
Russian speaking people and the Poorshenko was president before Zelenski
and Zelensky were actually sending neo Nazi brigades because the

(06:54):
western part of Ukraine is aligned with Germany was very
heavily Nazi during World War Two. They still have neo
Nazi brigades they were sending. Zelensky was sending these in
to the two Russian provinces to kill people wanted to
be independent states. And then when Zelensky started attacking the
Russian Orthodox clergy and shutting down churches, I think Putin

(07:18):
had enough because people to understand Putin is very very
religious and does believe in Jesus Christ and God. And
so therefore Putin has been mischaracterized. He may have been
KGB and he may have been a tough guy, but
he's a tough guy who believes in Jesus Christ, and
he does not want to go to war, to go
to war, and it doesn't want to take over Western Europe.

(07:39):
He wants to make sure that the Russian speaking people
of Ukraine are treated as human beings with dignity, their
own individual rights from God and their own ability to
be independent states if they want to be. Would you
agree with that, Demetrian.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yeh, yeah, I think that, you know, that is a
very inaccurate statement. I believe he just wants to protect
their own interests in that part of the world without
being encroached on. I know it's a very sensitive topic
to a lot of a lot of those in my background,
and I have family back on both sides and I

(08:17):
and I see that the two sides of you know,
there's actually people take one side on the other side,
and it's really really sad. But from my perspective here,
I want peace. I want really I look at the
two sides as two brothers, two brothers, and two brothers
shouldn't be fighting. Yeah, they should get along.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And you both are very dedicated to Ukraine. You know,
I'm Italian. I'm still very dedicated Italian, Irish. I'm still
very dedicated to both those countries, but I'm an American
and you were both Americans, and the strong ties here
with your families and strong ties back to Ukraine from
family history, relatives, et CenTra. And the other thing I

(08:58):
want to emphasize is that early on as we began
doing this work, when I met Mike Would, we really
got to know each other. Last summer summer twenty twenty four,
when I spent considerable period of time in Georgia with Mike,
and Dimitri was really one of the first funders of
God's Five Stones dot com and wrote a substantial chap

(09:22):
to get us going, and with no ties to it
once soever, I mean, this has been This is something
I'm doing because I believe it's correct. I do not
have an agreement with with Dimitri or Mike. I'm doing
this because I think it's an injustice and the injustice
needs to be rectified, and we need to get the

(09:43):
truth because it's the truth that they'll set us free.
And the truth of this story is a very very
big story. So Mike, I'm gonna ask you to come
back from time to time and comment, but if you'll
kind of mute yourself there so we don't get the
background noise. I'll interviewed Dmitri about his case. Okay, but
you'll be back through the program. We're going to go
about forty five minutes. Okay, all right, thank you. Now

(10:09):
to me, Treet, your case started, and the executive summary
of your case. I'm here reading from a briefing of
your case that has been prepared for the pardoner attorney
in the Department of Justice, and we'll get this to
the partner attorney so they can begin creating a file.
But it's what happened to you is to me just

(10:32):
should not happen in the United States of America. Now,
two the two things I want to cover are because
this is going to be called the the Craigslist false
false couch accusations. This is the case in this case
is about a false couch sold on Craigslist, which is

(10:55):
it's almost so ridiculous. I don't know what we're talking
about it except that it costs you a year and
a half, your life in a year and your life
in prison and continuing probation work, which is all a
gross injustice that was done to you. We're going to
get it corrected. Now. Your background. So you were born

(11:16):
in nineteen eighty five in Ukraine. You're the oldest of
twelve siblings, and you lived with your family in Ukraine
until you were four. As you pointed out, you went
to Walla Walla, Washington. Your family was the first Russian
family to go to Wallahwalla. And your father worked as
a local coal miner in the former Soviet Union, and
he worked half a mile underground for four hundred dollars

(11:41):
a month, when the average rage in the Soviet Union
at that time was one hundred dollars a month. You
consider yourself fortunate. Your father was a devout Christian, an
active member of the local church, and he refused to
register with the Communist party. And that goes back to
the nineteen forties and the history with the Soviet Union,

(12:06):
which your grandfather was arrested, charged with the crime of
being a speculator, meaning he achieved profit from his work
under the communist system. He's arrested, stripped of his rights,
and your grandfather and the entire family were shipped off
to They were shipped off to a Siberian concentration camp
for a hard labor. Your father then fifteen, was not

(12:31):
sent to the concentration camp. He was left on his
loan to fend for himself. And so therefore your father
refused to register with the Communist Party, and he refused
to promise that he would not participate in religious services.
And so therefore he continued to work and to build

(12:52):
a house for himself and his family. But because he
refused to renounce his faith and pledge order the Communist Party,
you know, he began to face increasing I guess it's
say attacks. The KGB came to your father's house, arrested him,
took him to the Soviet prison, wet, cold, rat infested prison,

(13:16):
and he was released from prison. Since government took everything
he had, they lost interest in him. And in nineteen
eighty four he married your mother, found a way to
get to America. And you know, this is just an
exciting story in terms of survival of the out of

(13:38):
the Soviet Union, and had to have been an heroic.
As you learned this family history, you had to feel
your grandfather and your father were heroes.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Absolutely. Yeah. And you know one thing I'd like to add,
how that story continued on after my father was pretty
much let go by the Communist Party. He was arrested
eight separate times and put in a prison eight separate times,
eventually burned his house down. At that point they let
him go. He actually did go back to work for
a short while back in the coal mines. But sometime

(14:09):
in the late eighties, information came out that the United
States would consider citizens of the Soviet Union to be
interviewed for consideration to immigrate to the United States. The
requirement was you've got to show up at an embassy,
which the nearest ones were located in the European countries.
So when that information became available, my dad didn't need

(14:30):
to hear anything further. He took my mother, there was
two brothers at the time, three kids, packed all of
our belongings. There was twelve suitcases, approximately six hundred dollars
of earnings, and he bought a ticket from Moscow, Russia
to Vienna, Austria. Now, one of the rules at the
time to exit the Soviet Union you had to have

(14:51):
a passport. Well, those were only issued to high ranking
people within the communist system, typically KGBA agent, So we
had no documents whatsoever to legally cross that border. We're
a Christian family. God fearing family and God really was
watching over us. We boarded that train not knowing what's
going to happen. Typically about two three stops prior to

(15:15):
leaving the country, you wouldn't get boarded, and you're trained
by the KGB guards and they would go through and
start checking documents. And that started to take place, and
as they approached our carriage, they walked past our entire
family like we weren't there. I really believe their eyes

(15:37):
were shielded, they didn't see us. They walked right past.
A couple stops later, we were outside the Soviet Union
in the European country and we stopped in Vienna, Austria.
We spent about two weeks there and were unsuccessful in
obtaining an interview at the US embassy there, so we
carried on to Italy Rome, Italy, where we arrived two

(16:01):
weeks later. And that process to get an interview took
about two and a half months. I was four years
of age, but it's something I'll never forget. After two
and a half months of kind of going through the process,
filing the papers and waiting for the call, my parents
did receive that call that they were granted an interview,

(16:22):
and I still remember this to this day. Sitting in
the embassy, speaking with immigration officer, retelling the story of
why we would like to start a new life in America,
and talked about the KGB tactics, the imprisonment, why my

(16:43):
family would not agree to participate in that communist system.
The immigration officer said, very clearly, you know, we don't
do things this way in America. And he took a
pause and reached back behind his big desk and pulled
out a stack and just went across the five applications
on his desk and just boom boom, boom, boom boom,

(17:05):
and said, welcome to the United States of America. That's
how that's how our American story started. A church sponsored
us several weeks later, and we ended up in Walla Walla, Washington,
which we lived for there for ten years through nineteen
ninety nine. My father worked at a just irrigation company,
never spent a day on any kind of public assistance,

(17:25):
didn't really didn't want to participate in that. Went straight
to work, straight to work, and just instilled in us.
And the whole family had just the values of hard
work and really instilled in us. How do we become
an asset, an income producing asset for this country. You know,
he felt that we were invested in as an immigrant
family and that we needed to give back, make sure

(17:49):
that our presence here brought something good to this country
versus take away from it. That's how we started here
in America. So we got to see that beautiful side
of America of you knowlegal immigration giving us a chance.
And I'll forever be grateful for that opportunity. Fast forward
ninety nine, moved to Alaska. I went to school to

(18:10):
be an airline pilot, got my pilot's licenses, got a job, graduated,
flew commercially for seven years for the airlines across America
coast to coast. And in two thousand and eight nine
the recession hit. And that was a time when I
had just started my family, and I was concerned about

(18:32):
my income, losing my paycheck. So I basically went out
and said, how I'm going to test myself to see
if I can find ways to supplement my income as
being an entrepreneur.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Okay, and you married your beautiful wife in two thousand
and five, and you have five children, two boys and
three girls, and the youngest is what now, one year old.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
One year years of age.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
She can sure crawl around that house all right, and
she's got a great sense of humor. She can't quite yet,
but she knows what's funny. And she is clearly the
one who rules the roost. Is the youngest girl of
five children. So a beautiful family, and I did enjoy
greatly spending time with you. Now you started, then you

(19:18):
went into a You founded a consumer electronics company and
sold accessories for phones and electronics. And between twenty ten
and twenty twenty four, you paid approximately two million dollars
in personal taxes and your businesses paid about two point
five million to the United States Treasury. So you certainly

(19:41):
have been productive, and you certainly have produced a return
for the opportunity. That sounds to me like God granted
you in the United States of America, agreed to.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
I tend to think the same. I agree. I've done
it most as as I could, and God has blessed
me with access and a beautiful family, five children, and
I'm very thankful for that to truly, being an asset,
I feel like I've given back more than maybe others
in my in my same category to this great country.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
And you run a company now called Alaska Doors, and
you had a brochure in the office I was using
in the condominium and the hangar, the airplane hangar, which
by the way, was extremely comfortable. That was luxurious by
Eddy standards. And these doors are remarkable. I mean, these
doors are rock solid for the Alaskan weather. I said,

(20:37):
you probably have this business all across the United States.
Someday we have Alaska doors that you can have Oklaholma doors.
You can know all the It's just a wonderful concept.
And at everybody I met. I attended the Christmas party
in your hangar. I think you have films of me
singing jingle bells had We had a great time. It

(20:57):
was a really family oriented and you've run your company
as a family oriented enterprise and Christian principles, and you
have great employees. I was always very very impressed with
the quality of your employees and the standards of your company,
which I think are exceptional.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, thank you for that that. We really enjoyed having
you here during our Christmas party.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was terrific. I mean, I've been in Alaska many times,
but I've never enjoyed it as much as I did
this last time. Now your trouble started in twenty sixteen,
and you had a Homeland Security memorandum that initiated an

(21:40):
investigation into you when a US Customs and Border Patrol
notify Control notified Homeland Security that inbound shipments of electronics
have been misclassified or are undervalued. And then there's a
report from a Homeland Security report investigation of this agent

(22:01):
Wasson Wauso n. However, the Department of Homeland Security opened
his file on you in twenty thirteen, so you didn't
get this reported until twenty eighteen. So there's the two
dates of the Homeland Security investigation. The discrepancy and the
dates both assigned to the same agent is unexplained, and

(22:23):
of course that's one of the many bizarre factors of
this case. What happened to the electronics investigation.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Well, you know, I started a business buying and selling,
and one of the businesses initially was just to buy
name brand products and we shipped them overseas to Europe
and sold them at a profit. On the Amazons and
ebays of the world. At that time, we would buy
something for one hundred dollars and send it sell it
for one hundred pounds. We would have some profit in

(22:52):
the exchange of currencies. That business eventually received a lot
of competition and it started to produce less and les profit.
So we got to the point where we started our
own company to produce protective cases, chargers, cables for the
same electronics that we had initially started to sell. That

(23:12):
was in twenty fourteen. The revenues of the business selling
the name brand electronics were very high. They were very high,
and those numbers attracted the tension of the Homeland Security
investigation team in Alaska, and they had started to investigate
to see, I've got to be I must be doing
something wrong for a business to be generating the numbers

(23:35):
we were generating during those times, during those years. At
twenty fourteen, we started, I want.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
To stop at that point because they were jealous you
were making money. Now, I thought this is I thought,
this is a capitalist state. I thought it was okay
to make money. But because you're Ukrainian, you're making money,
you're dealing with China. So our homeland security things on
no other basis. That's the basis to open up an investigation.

(24:03):
They're prying now into for all you know, for all
they know, a legitimate business, because why are you making
all this money working with China? So you have to
be doing something wrong. Now, that's a weaponized department. It's
attacking someone who's successful. It's like a shakedown operation. Okay. Now,
in twenty twelve, you were traveling from you and your

(24:26):
partner were traveling from China to Seattle, and in Seattle,
the customs agent seized all your electronics and then they
informed you that you were part of a child pornography investigation,
and which seems to me to be a pretext to
steal your property. I mean, now, spend time with you

(24:50):
and your family. I can't imagine, you know, if you're
interested in child pornography, you're the biggest card man on
the face of the earth, because I see no way
to other than all of your family man, your faithful wife,
you're faithful to your family. You're a good Christian. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I don't think they could have taken my laptop without
giving you a reason. They have to have like a
probable cause, And I to be honest, I didn't think
really anything of it. I didn't suspect that they were
investigating my businesses at the time. I was pretty naive,
just like Okay, you want to look at my laptop,
then I have no choice. They took it and they
returned it back a couple of months later. From what

(25:30):
I remember back from twenty twelve. But yeah, that was
their probable cause. Maybe was there maybe suspicion or what
they used at least to take my electronics and hopefully
find and uncover things that I maybe was doing illegally
according to them.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's what we call that a fishing expedition, fishing and
number which maybe and under the terms of the Fourth Amendment,
that they committed a crime doing that, because you cannot
conduct a fishing evidence without probable call. There's no reason
to have probable cause to suspect that you were engaged
in child pornography. It was a complete pretext. They hoped

(26:08):
to find something, and this was the best they could
think of. Now that's further buttressed by the fact that
nothing happened in twenty twelve. I mean, they didn't bring
it forth, any indictments, so far as you know, that
was just an incident that occurred. Of course, I doubt
they gave you your property back, did they.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Actually they did. They returned back my laptop. Surprisingly, they
clearly went through it. I don't think they clearly didn't
find what they were looking for.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
So that was about the electronics at the end of it.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
The electronics it was. It was mostly my laptop. I
believe I had a thumb drive or a hard drive
with it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Wasn't It wasn't business inventory they seized.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
No, it was my personal device.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Okay. So they're coming after you personally under the pretext
that your business had to be suspicious. They were going
to find child pornography. This is entirely a weaponized Department
of Homeland Security investigation, which is inherently illegal and violated
your Fourth Amendment rights as a citizen. Should never have
been done. Okay, now twenty eighteen. Then, so six years later,

(27:12):
you're listed in a government interest in the reports title
was purchase of sofa sets from Dmitri Kudrian. Okay, so
now you've committed a cry with sofas, and that's what
they're alleging. And they say that you had advertised couches
as having been manufactured in Italy, when the leather that

(27:35):
was the predominant part of the couch was manufactured in Italy,
but the couches were assembled in China. So it's an
absurd nature. This alleged defense as you put it in
Craigslist as an Italian couch. In fact, I believe in
the bedroom where I was sleeping, you had the couch

(27:58):
in the corner. I think that was the famous illegal couch.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
That's the one they sees. That's the one they sees.
And I'll share a little bit more information. How do
we get to couches? You know, since twenty twelve when
this whole thing started, I really was very naive to
not really realize that something was going on behind the scenes.
And for all those years through twenty eighteen, they were
actually looking for any way I was doing something illegal.

(28:24):
They were looking for crimes in my life during that
period of time. And approximately four years and nine months
after they had started their investigation on me, they created
this couch Gate case.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Where they came like that couch Gate. This is couch Gate,
couch Gate.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
They came and bought the center for me. Now, why
was I selling a sofa set? It's not really part
of my business. We produced consumer electronic accessories and we
chipped most of them to the West coast California and
across America. Every now and again, we'd need to have
a ship that come into Alaska, and Alaska is far
more expensive than it is to the West Coast. So

(29:03):
I was at a trade show in China and roughly
two thousand and probably fifteen or so, and my shipments
would come in on these palettes and they would leave
about four feet of space above the inventory of our
main products. I'm like, well, maybe I could find something
light to fit in there, and I can gain back
approximately ten thousand dollars of extra expense of bringing it

(29:24):
to Alaska versus leaving it in the lower forty eight States.
So I found a furniture factory, said here's what I want.
Can you fit these in? I'll buy whatever you can
fit in here, and I should be able to sell
them in Alaska for a small markup and gain back
those expenses. So that's what I did. I did that
and it worked out fairly well. I'd sell maybe one
set a month, two a month in a little neighboring
office next to my main office, and I would recover

(29:46):
roughly about nine hundred dollars of profit in a sale
from every single set, and I would rebalance out the
equation of being in Alaska and shipping to us here
in still being competitive in the space that I was.
So my advertisement in the sofa couch Git case it
said three piece Comma the Italian leather Comma sofa set.

(30:09):
Never did I write where it was made, Very rarely
did anybody ask about that. But the word Italian, like
you had stated, defined the type of leather in the product,
not where it was made. And around those two words
the entire case was built. The agent came in called
me one day. I said, hey, I saw your ad

(30:29):
like to come by take a look at I'm like, okay,
no problem, come by. It's here at my office and
I'm doing my normal business. And he comes over. So
I go over there and start listening to this questions
and why are you selling it? Where'd you get it?
Kind of the background story, and his questions were coming
at a pretty fast pace to where he came to
the Italian part, and his question was phrased in a

(30:52):
way that in my mind, I'm talking about the type
of leather, but he was asking where it was made,
and I gave him the wrong answer. After that point,
he bought the set and then said that every set
that I had sold I had told people that was
made in Italy when it's actually made in China, where
the whole case at that point was created. And onwards

(31:12):
we went, well.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
That reminds me of the kind of setup that was
done by the Department of Justice to General Flynn, where
they came over to talk about some of the conversations
with I believe Lavrov, a foreign minister in Russia, and
Flynn was unsuspecting, and of course they were then trying
to get him to say something which they could use
for their Russian collusion hoax. But it was a setup.

(31:37):
And so this was a setup too, and you were unsuspecting.
I mean, the fact is that the you know, the
car has been for a US automobile manufacturer under the
US automobile national brand of that automobile manufacturer. Assembles a
car in Mexico, it doesn't make it a Mexican car.

(31:58):
It's still a US car, Okay. So we use Italian products,
Italian leather, which is the selling point of the couches,
and you have it assembled in China. It doesn't make
it a Chinese couch. Makes it an Italian couch manufactured
in China or assembled in China, Okay. China did not

(32:18):
produce the leather. Okay, so now you know the when
you get into this what the Homeland security investigations and Anchorage,
Alaska started investigating suspicious financial activity, money laundering, trafficking, counterfeit goods,
smuggling and export by Dimitri Kudran and his family and

(32:40):
his company, his family members and associates. Now, why will
you've been successful? So quote the large flow of currency
and financial activity appear to be inconsistent with the potential
profit of his electronics business. In other words, homeland security
the basis of people who probably had non existed, never
been in business themselves. What these are government agents. They

(33:04):
determined your company was too profitable. And so then when
you finally realized that they were investigating you, and of
course you know you're here in the United States. You
came to the United States because you believed, as they
said in Italy, we don't operate that way, that you
weren't dealing with the KGB, and so you didn't have

(33:26):
any inherent reason to be suspicious. You were trying to
be helpful of these government agents. You didn't know what
they were investigating, but you were trying to do do
the right thing and answer their questions and tell them
the truth. But eventually I had to figure out that
what went on with your grandfather, the bogus investigation of
the KGB came up with and his arrest and imprisonment

(33:48):
for speculation. Now Here, you're in the United States and
you're getting basically punished for a successful business that you founded,
paid taxes on, ran legitimately, and all these government agents
wanted to do was punish you for your success. That's
about how I read the case.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
You're absolutely right. They raided my offices in May of
twenty eighteen and spent the bulk of the day in
the office looking around. They thought they were going to
uncover some operation that was happening inside the building that
was illegal. They had been working almost five years to
gain any form of indictment, and I think they were

(34:27):
running out of time. I believe there's a certain amount
of time that they have to complete things in and
they were running out of time. So instead of closing
an investigation and saying, hey, this person actually is in
it hasn't completed any crimes. After many, many years and
years and years of grand jury sessions of trying to
sell them whatever they were trying to go after and

(34:50):
secure an indictment. The system was actually working for a
lot of years, and finally, at one point where they
made this couch gate case, they received their indictment said
that I had defrauded people by selling them the sofa set,
advertising correctly through Craigslist, and they've simply rated the building
they went through. I couldn't believe it when they walked
in and showed me, like, you know, I'm just reading

(35:11):
my name. It says United States of America versus Dmitri corutering.
That is a very scary thing to read on a
piece of paper. And I never believed that this country
would allow such things to take place in the justice system.
I believe that it was black and white. You know,
if you're innocent and you're investigating, they're going to send

(35:31):
you home. But this agent clearly told in my face, Dmetria,
we know you're a stubborn person. We don't care what
it is, but we've got to win. If you don't
give this to us, we're going to continue to dig
until we find something. Initially, I didn't really believe him.
I'm like, no, there's no way this could be the case.
This is nonsense, But roughly a month later after the
case started, I found that is exactly the truth, and

(35:54):
that is exactly what they do and that was normal.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
For them, a firm this They did the same thing
to me when they wanted to imprison me in them
Alleer investigation. They decided they're going to put me in prison,
and they didn't care if they had a case. They
made one up. Okay, And I want to point this
out too, that so that this proper Homeland Security special
agent Todd Bishop purchased a couch from you, and on

(36:23):
January twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, the other agent, this Wasson
wausn I, had gotten permissioned to get twenty five hundred
dollars for the purchase of a couch from you. There's
a memo Homeland Security in twenty sixteen, twenty fourth of
January that documents that the couch was not bought until
February twenty eighteen, or two years later. And in January

(36:47):
twenty sixteen, the investigators argued that the twenty five hundred
dollars for the undercover couch was quote mission critical. Their
transparent bait and switch was to gain access to your
warehouse using col gates as the way to generate information
about the continued investigation of your sale of electronics, in

(37:08):
which they hoped to find a real crime. All they
ended up with was eager to advertise this three piece
furniture sets made up of Italian letter leather, fine Italian leather. Well,
having sat in the chair, I can test you it's
good Italian leather. That leather was I've been to Italy
more times than I can remember, and that leather was

(37:28):
not manufactured in China. I guarantee you there's no way
that was Chinese leather. And so you know what they
did was they they were in search of a crime, yes,
and they were willing to create a crime in order
to have an indictment. Now, these agents have violated so
many federal laws I can't begin to count them. Okay,

(37:50):
this is criminal activity. These two agents now have committed crimes.
And if the statute of limitations not done, I'm going
to bring this to Pamby and cash Betel and demand
an investigation of those agents.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
They were very upfront about it. They weren't trying to
high They said, hey, we're going to win. We need
an easy win. If you fight us, will continue to
dig until we find something. And you know, they followed
up a month later. This is a very long story,
but they followed up a month later with a seizure
from another completely different business, a home building business that
I had, and they took five hundred and eighty six
thousand dollars out of a bank account one day, just

(38:27):
vanished and then they called me in, Hey, we need
to sit down and talk. Once I saw them do that,
you know, initially my mentality was that my innocent were guilty.
I could know I am absolutely not guilty, And once
I saw them do that, it really created a shift
in my mind. I could really understand that the odds

(38:47):
of me beating the government with my resources were very slim,
and my my thinking shifted to how do I lose less.
It was it was very obvious to me that I
was not going to beat them, simply based on my
own assessment of what I knew at that time. On hindsight,
maybe I would have done something different. It was just
kind of like fighting a grizzly bear with your bare hands.

(39:10):
You can't win that. So it's not a smart move
to be entering a fight in that with that kind
of a disadvantage. So at that point they presented to
me a plea agreement and said, you know, if you
take responsibility for couch Gate, then we will leave you alone,
your family alone, my employees alone. They were harassing everybody
during this process, causing a lot of stress on my business,

(39:33):
on my employees, and put me in a position to
where this was the path of losing less. How do
I remain standing on the and not lose everything? What
would happen if I beat them in court, spent all
my money that I had and somehow won in the end,
how is I to win? I have nothing to me,
that's really a lot, so to me, I had to

(39:54):
sign that paper and take responsibility for couch Gate, which
I absolutely never advertised the sofa sets as being made
in Italy or China. Everything was made in China. Rarely
was that ever eting brought up, never was advertised, But
it was just a means to an end that which
was about five years in the making, and they had

(40:15):
to find a way to close it. They were hoping
to find some big explosion in the end of my
warehouse that would create this enormous case. They didn't, and
instead of doing the honorable thing of saying, Okay, this
person passed our five year test. They did not. Well.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
The President Trump has just signed a executive order of
making this kind of criminal activity and the part of
justice departments, regardless of agency, criminal, They're not allowed to
do this any longer. They're not allowed to create a
crime and offer you a plea deal in order not
to challenge them in court or put you in a
position of losing all your money, your life, your livelihood,

(40:54):
possibly being in prison for the rest of your life
if you don't bend to their criminal fabrication of a
crime that was never committed. So the criminals are the
Department of Homeland Security, and I intend to find out
who these agents are, who supervise them, under what authority
they operated, how many more of them are there are,

(41:17):
And we'll be talking to mister Elon Musk about this
activity never being allowed to get in the Department of
Homeland Security. Homeland Security operates this way. We don't need
the Department of Homeland Security. Now, in the limited time
we've gone, I want to cover a couple more points,
and this is just the first of many interviews we're
going to do. I want people to understand the depth

(41:38):
of your support for Donald Trump, the importance of your
business in Alaska, the ability to work with Donald Trump,
even on energy in Alaska, your contacts up there. I
want to continue to have you have a productive life
in which you can contribute to the advancement of building
God's kingdom here on earth and providing abundance as God

(41:59):
to to go forth and multiply and have this blemish
removed from your record. We're going to accomplish this. We're
going to win this one. Okay. Now, what I want
to make absolutely clear is that in the process of
all this, you were actually raided. Your office was raided,
You were handcuffed, you were taken away and indicted. Yes,

(42:22):
and this was in front of your workers, your employees,
ultimately your family had to know you were imprisoned and indicted.
They ruined your life. They did everything they could to
make you a public embarrassment and to create a blemish
on your life and career that would never be able
to be a raised.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Is that correct? That is a true statement. They arrested me,
put me in prison, rained me the next day, strip
me of all my local rights, took my passport. I
became a flight risk. There's a lot more and we
could cover those details and future interviews to dig in
into this case piece by piece. But that is correct,
doctor Corsi.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, at your bail hearing, you had to post a
six hundred thousand dollars secure bond that denied you the
opportunity to leave Alaska without prior permission of the court.
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (43:06):
That is correct. I needed to take a trip to
Germany two weeks after the indictment, and that was the
first battle.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Of this case.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Is I have got to go do that at a
big trade show that I had spent a lot of
money for. We initially won that case. A judge had
been filling in out of the state of Washington for
a local judge. Well, he said the government had absolutely
no good cause to hold me back and order them
to return my passport. Of course, they did a twenty
four hour stay, brought in the judge that oversaw this case,

(43:35):
and she completely reversed the decision, canceling the trip for
me and costing me a tremendous amount of lost opportunity
and lost income just from that one case.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
That was totally started. Did the government ever return your
five hundred thousand dollars?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
They did not. Five hundred eighty six thousand dollars is
gone to this day, and that was signed away with
my plea agreement. They had attached all of that. There
was about a page of sofa stuff at about thirty
pages of all the things they had hoped would create
cases against me, and they had just very conveniently bunched
that together. And maybe that made them feel a little

(44:12):
better that at least there's a little bit of money
involved in this case that give them a little bit
of satisfaction of five years of hard work of looking
for something in my life unsuccessfully.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Maybe that was part of it.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
But that money's gone.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
And what year do they What year do they steal
that money from you?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
That was approximately the end of June of twenty eighteen
is when they came and took that money.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Well, I think they should return that money to you,
plus interest and damages, and so therefore I think you've
got a major suit against them for criminal misimprisonment and
confiscation of assets that they had no right to do.
These two criminals, in fact, all the criminals involved in
this case need to go to jail.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I hope.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
So you know where I grew up, where I was born,
I should say, not grow up, but where I was born,
there's a thing called criminals within a law, and that
doesn't surprise anybody from where I come from. And I
couldn't find a better term for these people as criminals
within the law. Are they all that way? I don't
think so. But the ones that I dealt with easily

(45:16):
for me, fall into that category. You know, there's a
famous quote out there that says, you know back in
the KGB communist days, where they say show me the man,
and I'll show you the crime. And to me, I
was the man, and he was going to find a
crime or manufacture a crime, and that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Well, I'm up against a heartbreak and I want to
bring Mike back in. I apologize and be happy to
the American people, of the American government that our criminals
and the Pivment Home Mens Security committed these crimes at
your expense, especially given your history, given what you've done
for your family, what you've done for the nation, your
support of God's five Stones is going to be instrumental

(45:56):
and restoring voting rights to the American people. We are
going to win that case. I'm working with Peter ticked
in T. C. K. Ti n the President's attorney, and
we have a strategy here to make sure that the
states which have been penetrated by criminal agents and their
voter registration files are brought to justice. We're going to

(46:17):
and you your funding initially was instrumental and getting us established,
and that I think is again, despite all the injustice
done to you, is a testament to your Christian beliefs,
your Christian life, and your devotion to the United States
of America and to Donald Trump. And I commend you
for that. Thank you, Thank you, Doctor Michael. Any final

(46:37):
comments here, I really respect appreciate that both of you.
I honor the both of you.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I think this is great work that we're doing and
building America out further by bringing up things like that.
I wish you guys the best day, to all the
viewers to have an amazing day, amazing week, and I
can't wait to speak with you all again soon.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Well to me too. If you ever set up a
defense fund or whatever, we're going to advertise people contributing
to it, and I encourage you to do that because
this is it. We'll publicize it here and you will
get contributions. Okay, so by the time we do our
next interview, I'd like you to have a defense fund
in place, and then we can begin to get that

(47:22):
funded so you have some resources to fight these demons
and beat them. They need to be sent back to
Hell where they came from.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Thank you for that suggestion, doctor Corsi. I really appreciate
you taking time to hear my story and to bring
attention to it. I really hope that you know. One
thing I do know is the truth will eventually come out.
It always does. It comes out on God's time, not
necessarily in my time. And it's been a lot of
years now since this whole case has been over. It's

(47:49):
behind me, it's in the rearview mirror. I've recovered from it, thankfully.
And you know, I've lived in this community for twenty
six years, and I'm very thankful that my reputation prior
to this case was strong enough to carry me through
and allow me to get back up on my feet,
build a brand new company, employ almost forty people.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Now.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I'm very proud of what we're doing, and it's contributing
to the local economy, to Alaska employing people, and to America.
So I couldn't be more excited for the next four
years with the President's policy, all the very fast actions
that he's implementing. I very much sowed and participating in
a lot of that. I have a huge manufacturing experience
in China and I'm very excited at bringing the factory home.

(48:34):
I'm actually working on that as we speak. I couldn't
be more excited about. It's the best time ever and
why not. I have no loyalty to China, and if
there's an opportunity, which is now to bring it home,
I'm jumping all in.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Well, I want to thank you. I want to thank
Mike for bringing introducing me to you and bringing this
case forward. God bless you both, gentlemen. Were doing God's
work here and we will win.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Many, many many.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
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