How Obama’s Deep State Took Over the Catholic Church

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
More angels.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
This Jerome Corsi, and we are very fortunate to have
a batique guest, Mike McCormick. Mike, how are you.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm good, Doctor Torge, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
And we're going to review Mike's new book here, which
just came out. It's it's called an almost Insurmountable Evil.
How Obama's Deep State defied the Catholic.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Church, defiled, defiled.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
The Catholic Church, defiled the Catholic Church, and executed the
Wuhan pandemic. Okay, we're going to focus first on the
deep state and the Catholic Church. And I've been in
touch with Archbishop Vigano, as I know you have as well, Mike,
and he is very much in support of this book.

(00:51):
And the Archbishop has issued two things recently. He's issued
a letter to American Catholics called in English, It's against
Spiritual Wickedness. And he's just issued an interview he did
with Aldo Maria Valley in Italy, both of which address

(01:14):
really the deep state and deep Church. So these two
documents are really very relevant. I've emailed the archbishop this morning,
and what you've developed and what he has developed, I
think are going to make a very strong case to
be brought to Pam Bondi at the Department of Justice

(01:37):
and to Cash Betel, assuming he gets confirmed this week
as head of the FBI. And so I'm planning on
making those introductions at Donald at the level of Donald Trump.
Oh great, so that we get Donald Trump's awareness of this,
because Archbishop Vigonald's letter to the American Catholics issued before

(01:57):
the election, did a lot to swing the Catholic vote
to Donald Trump in the twenty twenty four election. Yeah,
and your work and the work we've done, with the
work we've done together, the very podcasts we've done in
your previous work have made a big impact I think

(02:20):
overall on the vote and the awareness of the work
the Archbishop is done. Now, to begin with, I want
to have you go to the description here. Let's I'm
not sure where you want to start out, but I
want to start out that we've got the cover of
the book right there. I want to start out with

(02:42):
the relationship of Archbishop McCarrick, because he's a central character
in this whole drama. And Mike, if you would start
out by explaining who Archbishop McCarrick is and why he's important.
That might be a good way to begin the interview, right.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
So, Theodore MCA was a Catholic priest ordained in the
early sixties.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
He was around from around New York City and he
then came down to Washington went to college at Catholic University.
I think he studied at Fordham and then he took
went into the seminary and then came and got like
graduate programs at Catholic University in the early sixties and

(03:27):
was trained at Catholic University in fundraising. I think that's
when he became affiliated with the intelligence community and basically
he was groomed as an intelligence community operative. His next
his first assignment after Catholic University was in Puerto Rico.
He like opened a like a Catholic college down there.

(03:51):
But at the time, this was the mid sixties, Puerto
Rico was very it was in the Caribbean was in
a very sensitive political, uh realm because of the Cuban
missile crisis had just occurred. So and I know this
because I was born in Saint Thomas in nineteen sixties.
So my dad was a Coastguard guy down there and

(04:12):
they did a lot of sort of CIA activities around
the Caribbean, and one time a guy came in and
talked to my dad and he said, hey, listen, my
dad was a captain of the coast Guard ship there.
He goes, if you hear this code word over the radio,
you shut down the harbor. And the code word came
over the radio when Turchiello was assassinated in the Dominican Republic.

(04:35):
So my dad shut down the harbor for a while
and they opened it up. So that was a CIA
and this was mcarric goes into this and he learns
how to speak Spanish. Well. A little bit later than that,
the CIA goes into Argentina with Operation Condor, and that's
when they started reaching into the church there. They had

(04:56):
always used the church as sort of a networking process.
He did it in Europe with the anti communist activities,
but they did in Argentina and Brazil. And one of
the priests they used was a guy named Burgoglio. When
he was a priest at Argentina, he was affiliated with
the right wing dictatorship who was backed by the CIA.

(05:21):
So Bregoglio was known to these dictators. He it's very
controversial what he did then and what he didn't do.
Then some of the priests who are sort of under
his charge were tortured, kidnapped and tortured by the regime
and then released. And they blamed Burgolio. They said he

(05:43):
told on him and he's the one that set him up.
And uh, he said, no, I was trying to protect
you guys. So it's always been a black mark in
his history.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
There no Pope Francis today.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Pope Francis today, and so his affiliation with the CIA
may go back to that Operation Condoor activity. So fast
forward to mcerrick mcric comes up through the ranks in
the nineties. He's a pedophile. He's raping altar boys and seminarians.
Is he moves up through the ranks of the church.

(06:18):
There's a lot of complaints against him. They just fall
on deaf ears. Why because he has big, powerful friends
and powerful places, and he always is able to get
his hands on a lot of money to distribute to people. Well,
in the nineties he becomes part of a State Department
program to travel globally and distribute money around the world

(06:43):
for the State Department. And it's always unclear whose benefactors are.
He said they're wealthy Catholics. But frankly in the book,
I surmise that it's probably the CIA that's giving him
money to travel around the world and pay out to
these harverish bishops and priests in different locales.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
So it's just not permittent on this because the CIA
money we're now knowing has been distributed through USAID, and
that's another way that he could have been being paid.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's right, there's a lot of USAID stuff behind this.
So in two thousand he gets named to be the
bishop of Archbishop of Washington. He moves from New Jersey
to Washington, and in two thousand and one, of course,
he becomes the voice of comfort for Catholics around the
world when the nine to eleven attacks hit Washington. So

(07:35):
he becomes very close with the Bush White House. And
I was working in the Bush White House. Then I
started hearing all the time about Carter mccare Carter mccairt,
and I realized that he was a prominent guy. And
then he became he was archbishop, and then he became
named cardinal by Pope John Paul the Second, and then

(07:56):
he moves up the ranks. He's very close with me
in this city, very close with politicians, especially Democrats. Obama
comes in and the Obama White House reaches out to
the Vatican through a guy named Dennis McDonough. And Dennis
McDonough was a Catholic. He had two brothers who took
Holy orders. One is still a Catholic priest in Minneapolis,

(08:21):
although he's kind of in disgrace because he was accused
of covering up for pedophile priests and they demoted him
from a higher up position in the diocese to being
a pastor of a parish. The other brother retired from
the from the Catholic priesthood. He's got one brother still

(08:44):
a priest, one brother retired.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Want to read something you wrote on page thirty He
said that well, Catholics made up a third of Obama's cabinet.
In twenty twelve, Vatican Conservatives, led by Paul Benedict, pushed
back hard on Obama's liberal They weren't impressed that Obama's
Vice President Joe Biden, his Chief of Staff Bill Day

(09:07):
as National Security Advisor Tom Donnellan shared their Catholic faith.
They saw Obama led Democrats advancing pro abortion policies, same
sex rights, and health and human service mandates. To provide
constrey coverage for contraceptive sterilizations and quote emergency birth control
and employee health plans under the Affordable Care Act. So

(09:30):
this started in the Obama administration, and in fact, there
are various emails talking about the need to have a
Catholic Spring. Emails were with John Podesta, especially with this Donahue,
who was advanced to a more prominent position in the

(09:51):
Biden administration, that the whole idea was that the Catholic
Church ought to be penetrate by progressives and by this time,
by this time LGBT agenda.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
But you know McDonough was already doing it. McDonough's started
doing this penetration before Obama even got into Washington. He
reached out to Podesta. McDonough and Podesta had an email
between each themselves in two thousand and eight right after
the election to reach out to the Vatican and reach
out to Cope Benedict. So he started doing that, but

(10:29):
they wanted to push Benedict out of the way because
of his conservative obstruction of their very progressive ideas.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And of course McCarrick, who was not only having sex
with the older boys, he was inviting seminarians to join
him and retreats or in vacations and sleeping in the
beds with them and having sex with the seminarians, So
adult homosexuality as well.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Right, And McCarrick at this time is traveling to China regularly.
He's traveling to Iran regularly. This is in the two thousands,
from early two thousand through two thousand and thirteen. So
in twenty twelve, there's a series of very suspicious trips
that he takes to Buenos Aires, right before Pope benedict

(11:25):
Is resigns, right before then, McCarrick goes down to Buenos Aires.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
In fact, you say, one of the reports written in
the Catholic Church this peril and report confirmed mcarrick Bergolio
meeting in Buenos Aires in August twenty eleven, right, and
a previous one in two thousand and four, So that
McCarrick was in communication with Bergolio in Argentina. And there's

(11:55):
good reason to believe that that you know, Bigolio was
affiliated and am McCarrick affiliated with the CIA both at
that time. Now, if Bergolio was working for the regime
at that time, the regime in Argentina was more of
a military coup d'etas, and they were killing communists and

(12:19):
Catholics in Argentina intellectuals. So Brigoglio seems to have shifted
his orientation with McCarrick to the left, as they both
have embraced this LGBT agenda and wanted to put it
into the church. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, And there's a very interesting movie put out by
Hollywood called The Two Popes and that came out in
the fall of twenty nineteen and was a nominated for
Academy Awards. It starred Anthony Hopkins and Jeremy Price as
Pope Francis and Pope Benedict, sort of exploring a fictional

(13:04):
friendship and how one pope stepped aside for the other pope.
And it was based, in my opinion, it was a
CIA propaganda film done in conjunction with Hollywood to set
up Brigolio and Pope Francis as this benevolent force of good.
You know what the CIA did and what Obama did

(13:26):
with Pope Francis, what his whole role, most of his
role in this pape seat for them was what I
call morality laundering. They need they had political they used
him for as a foreign policy tool, they used the
Vatican to bless with morality laundering, the child trafficking, human trafficking,

(13:55):
drug smuggling done out of Central America that was hidden
by the immigration illegal immigration surge. They did it with
the Iranian nuclear deal. They used Pope Francis directly for that,
and same with McCarrick. The two of those traveled together
to the Holy Land to help sell Obama's nuclear deal

(14:21):
ran nuclear deal. And then they also use them to
betray the Chinese Catholics in China. And from twenty fourteen
on basically all the way through until twenty eighteen when
they were the Vatican sign this really poor agreement with
the Chinese Communist Party to seed control of the Catholic

(14:44):
Church in China to the party. So they betrayed China's Catholics.
And so all this happens under Burgolio and McCarrick. And
so this is what's in the book is the details
on that.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Also, the Council of the Bishops in the United States
have been supporting this immigration, welcoming these immigrants, and what
Bregano was documented is that they've gotten almost in one
year two point four billion dollars from the Biden administration

(15:23):
to support this. The illegal immigrants coming into the United
States and what Mgana called it's an ethnic substitution plan,
in other words, to bring in all of these Hispanic
speaking people in order to change the culture of the
United States, to move it in a leftist direction.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Right, the Great Reset, the Great Reset.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Part of the Great Reset, and at the center of
this agenda is there's two things. One is the LGBT
agenda and trying to make this like liberation theology, a
message of Jesus Christ that we have to reach out
to the poorest among us and to the marginalized. We've

(16:07):
got to create a through this meeting of the Synods,
this meeting of the big bishops, with the local congregations
all around the world Catholics to say, we've got to
make a place for the LGBT in the church, which
is again contrary to the traditional Catholic teaching that you know,

(16:28):
there's only two genders, male and female, and marriages a
sacrament between a man and a woman to pro create
children and raise them in a moral education, believing in
Jesus Christ. Whereas here, okay, so you've got all.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
These right, and Archbishop I'm glad you brought up Archbishop A.
Gano's name, because he plays a really important role in this.
So he is he comes to America as the papal
Nunzio in the two thousands, and he starts to see
all this activity, these plants to get against McCarrick and
confronts him a couple of times. And McCarrick is a

(17:05):
slippery character with big friends behind him. That's why I
think he's a CIA guy. He has the arrogance of
a deep state operative. And so, uh, he is sort
of reprimanded about these activities.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Pope Benedict says, you have to just lead a life
a quiet you know, seclusion, don't don't be involved with people.
And mckarick ignores him and start keeps doing all this
travel program. And when uh Francis comes in, McCarrick is unleashed.
And that was part of this whole you know, operation

(17:43):
to get uh Bargoglio named Pope Francis. Was it unleashes McCarrick.
And McCarrick goes around the world as h Burgoglio's connection
into the Washington higher ups, especially in the White House,
because he would go directly into the White House from
twenty thirteen on and talk to White House Chief of

(18:05):
Staff Dennis McDonough. But McDonough got named White House Chief
of Staff in twenty thirteen, and I think a large
part of that was because he did this operation to
get Pope Francis into the Vatican. And so they have
McCarrick as an operative directly into the heart of the

(18:26):
White House, the Obama Biden White House, and they're going
around the world, they're setting up these foreign policy initiatives.
And so Archbishop Begano in twenty thirteen, in June, actually
it might have been twenty fourteen. I think it was
twenty thirteen, either June twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. He

(18:49):
travels to Rome and sees McCarrick there, and he knows
that he and m character of Cross has, you know,
and so he says, oh, they just sort of see
each other going to the uh in the mcarrit goes, oh,
I'm on my way to China. I just had an
audience with the Pope. And so the Pope sees Archbishop

(19:09):
Mgano and he asked him about McCarrick, what do you
think about McCarrick, and Archbishop Macgono tells him there is
a folder, very thick folder about his activities defiling seminarians,
you know in the Vatican, you know, the investigations area,
and the Pope just sort of shrugs it off because,

(19:32):
you know, Archbishop mcgano didn't realize mccarrock was working with
Pope Francis then he was. They were friends, and so
he was basically sounding him out to see what he thought.
And once he realized he didn't like McCarrick, all of
a sudden, Archbishop of Ghana was put in a special
relationship with the Vatican where he was not allowed to

(19:55):
do things and he had to become a whistleblower. He
becomes the whistleblower of the Vatican, not only of McCarrick,
but Burgolio and all the other ugly activities that are
going on in there. And that's the role that Archbishop
Bagano rises to. In twenty eighteen, he writes a series
of letters after McCarrick gets outed the Catholic Church. Actually

(20:19):
kind of I think what happened was when Trump gets
elected in twenty sixteen, they and he takes office in
twenty seventeen, the church realized that, see I realized they
had to cover up what they were doing with this
church affiliation, and they silenced McCarrick. They put him out
to pasture and they he wasn't excommunicated, but he was

(20:42):
leisized so he could no longer be a priest for
you know, he basically and they ran this, you know,
they did a huge report on him and took a
long time for them to write it up. Perland, Cardinal Perlyn,
was the guy who was in charge of it. He
was the Secretary of State. Well, it was a whitewash. Basically,

(21:03):
they wrote about things that were in were documented in there,
but not everything. So those trips that mccarrot took to
Buenos Aires, they appear as sort of he was traveled there,
but they don't really explain it. There's no real discussion
of who he met down there or what he did

(21:25):
there is just sort of a footnote, oh, by the
way he went. He went to Wuynos Aires in October
of twenty twelve and December of twenty twelve, just months
before Pope Benedict retires, and he and McCarrick just happened
to be in Rome in February twenty thirteen when Pope friend,

(21:49):
it's just when it was time to set up the conclict.
So he was there when this happened, and he started
sort of influencing cardinals and bishops at that time time
with media presentations things like that. But also along the way,
remember he's been the guy who's travel around the world
and handed out money by the hundreds of thousands of

(22:12):
dollars of people. And so when it came time for
the conclave, people that owed him a favor. If he
wanted MCA, if he wanted Forgolio to be nominated, he
could push that button behind the scenes. This is how
the CIA operates. They buy their way into with influence.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Also, you were at the White House as a stenographer
for many years and you worked and traveled with Joe Biden.
Much of what you're talking about you saw firsthand. Is
that correct?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, I mean I would I never met McCarrick in person.
I would hear Joe Biden all the time talking about
at a private residence reception that he had there's Carter's
cardin McCarrick in the back. McCarrick was a very was
very basically spiritual advice. And you know the reason I
started even looking into this was I was on a

(23:06):
podcast with Alex Jones and I was afterwards, I was
listening to his show. He was talking about this, this
feeling of overwhelming evil that he was experiencing. This was
last spring, so spring of twenty twenty four, and I
was thinking to myself, what's the most evil thing from
the White House that I remember? And it was that

(23:27):
Joe Biden had this close spiritual relationship with this pedophile
Cardinal mccaret. And so when I looked into what Cardin
McCAT did in the White House or the White House
visitor loogues, that's when all this became apparent.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Now, let's focus on the deal that was engineered with Honduras. Yeah,
because I think this is one of the most evil
of the deals that I mean, first of all, you're
laying the ground for investigation by Pam Bondi of the
Justice Department and Cash Bettell, assuming he gets Caide firm

(24:00):
head of the FBI, into a CIA conspiracy to change
the Pope. They have a code Tagainst Pope Benedict to
put in Bargoglio. Knowing that Bergoglio has now adopted this
progressive LGBT agenda and is moving towards a communist interpretation

(24:24):
of immigration, namely that we have to take care of
the least of all of these, and we the Catholic
Church has to reach out in sympathy to the marginalized
members of the Catholic Church, namely the LGBT Catholics. Now
in the twenty you know, you've found, under McCarrick's direction,

(24:46):
a deal that McDonough put together with Biden involving Honduras.
Can you explain what that deal was about?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Right? So, in the summer in the in twenty fourteen,
teen spring summer, all of a sudden, all these unaccompanied
parentless children show up at the southern border and they
cross illegally and are brought into the United States. It
becomes a crisis, the crisis of unaccompanied minors, and they're

(25:18):
brought there by cartels. Families in Central America and Mexico
are letting their kids, paying cartels to take their kids
to the border. And these are young kids, so I'm
as young as four. Most of them are between thirteen
and seventeen. Most of our boys, the crimes committed against
these kids is just awful. By the cartels, by the

(25:41):
Coyotes and the cartels. How did they get there? We
don't know who told them to go there? Was it
the CIA? Was it the Catholic Church? Was it the
government who told them that this was okay? We don't know.
To this day, no one's really looked into it. Obama
and those guys never looked into it. So all these

(26:01):
guys show up and Joe Biden has to be the
guy that solves the crisis. Well, he uses Cardio mccarick
and they set up a series of meetings in the
White House with McCarrick and McDonough after Joe Biden has
met in person there with the president of Honduras, a
guy named Juan Orlando Hernandez. Hernandez and his brother at

(26:26):
the time were smuggling cocaine in the United States by
the time, and the Biden administration and the Obama Biden
people knew it because they were caught on a DEA
surveillance tape. The brother of Orlando Hernandez was talking about it,
and so they had surveillance. They knew about it. The

(26:48):
intelligence streams that go into the White House are so detailed.
The DEA would have told somebody, and somebody would have
told somebody else until it got into the White House. Hey,
you're going to have this Honduras president coming into the
wayouts for a meeting about these unaccompanied minors. He's smuggling,
smuggling cocaine United States, by the ton, They would have

(27:09):
told him that, and they didn't care. So they bring
this guy in, they make a deal, and then they
turned the Catholic Church on to the deal through mcarrick
and McDonough. And that's when they bring in Catholic Relief Services,
US Conference of Catholic of Catholic Bishops.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
And the Alliance for Prosperity and the eventual.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Policy. It's Joe Biden's pet project, is called the Alliance
of Prosperity. They send one point five billion dollars from
twenty fourteen through twenty sixteen to three tiny Central American
countries Guatemala, al Sabdor and Honduras. And they know the
guys in Honduras are smuggling drugs in and so where

(27:57):
did the money go? What was it used for? I
think it was to set up child trafficking and drug
trafficking networks with the cartels. The Sinaloa cartel El CHAPO
was a major contributor to Orlando Ornandez's presidential campaign in
twenty thirteen when he was elected. So all this is

(28:17):
happening all the same time Hondor's guy gets elected. He's
with the cartels. All these un accompany minors show up
at the border. They have a crisis, they've got to
solve it. They go to Congress, they get all this money,
they throw it to these small little countries, and they're
doing it with cartels, and they're using the church networking

(28:37):
in there. And Pope Francis and Cardinal mccairric knew it
the whole time. Pope Francis allowed the Catholic Church to
be brought into a business deal with cartel devils. He
sold the church out to cartel devils, That's what he did.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
And so you're talking basically about the Catholic Church, the
Biden administration, and Donaldy, the CIA, which they're all tied
together under A McDonough in the White House is chief
of staff for Biden engineering a deal with the Hondura's

(29:15):
president which would allow cocaine in fact money coming into
this through to the Catholic bishops as well as to
through the Alliance for Prosperity of the Central American Countries
to allow setting up a network for bringing cocaine into
the United States across the border and for stealing children

(29:38):
that would end up ultimately in sex trades in the
United States or around the world.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I mean, yeah, that's right. And so this is twenty fourteen,
twenty sixteen, and what happens Donald Trump happens. Donald Trump
gets elected and says I'm putting up a border wall,
and that blows up the whole Great reas set deal.
This is brought the Alliance of Prosperity was the seed

(30:04):
money for the Great Reset and Donald Trump stepped right
in front of it when he was elected, and so
they had to figure out a way around him. So
they got rid of McCarrick, and they started plotting and planning. Okay,
we've got to, you know, get Joe Biden back in.
That's what we have to do. And that's what led
to Joe Biden becoming the illegitimate president in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
So the twenty twenty election again stolen in order to
make sure that Donald Trump did not get a second
term on this whole Alliance for Progress. Trump never did
stop during his first term, did he what.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Trump did well? So part of what happened was the
general who was in charge of Southern Command was General
John F. Kelly. Well, he becomes the sec well the
Secretary of Homeland Security, so he's in charge of the border.

(31:07):
When Trump comes in in twenty seventeen, this is the
deep state putting in their guys around Trump. Trump didn't
really know what's going on. So he comes in and
he is very close with one Orlando Hernandez in Honduras.
That was he was down there a lot with him.
And so when he comes in, as he tells Trump,
I'm going to tell them to restrict their immigration. They're

(31:30):
going to cut back on the illegal immigrants out of Hondurs.
But you get so Trump cuts the funding, He cuts
the Alliance of Prosperity funding in half, and the Hondurans
are like, okay, we'll play ball with you. So for
two years they did. But then in twenty eighteen in
the midterms, the Democrats win that election and take over

(31:52):
the House and they start impeachment processes against Trump. And
what does Trump do right after that election? He arrests
one Orlando Hernandez's brother Tony, and that's when all the
information about what really happened that drug smuggling comes out
of that trial. And that trial takes place in the
fall of twenty nineteen, as Trump is getting impeached for

(32:14):
the beautiful phone call, and as wuhan pandemic is being
rolled out in China. Trump is under peachment Tony Herlandiz.
No one pays attention to this trial.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's a trial for the Ukraine for the phone call about.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yes, that was the impeachment, and the trial is Tony Herlandiz.
Trump says, you're you guys are gonna You're gonna pay
for all the smuggling you did. So as he's being
put on trial, gets who gets thrown out of the
White House? General John F. Kelly, white House chiefest Staff,
is out of a job. And he's been bitter about

(32:49):
it ever since. You know, he insults Trump about his
relations with military people ever since. So Kelly was a
deep state operative, and you know, part of it was
this allis for prosperity that he was overseeing. He was
allowing that drug smuggling to go through as the chief
you know, he was a commanding General of Southern Command,

(33:11):
which was in charge of South America.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
And so Kelly did not stop the drug trade and
the child trade. It was still ongoing, and as Biden
got in the president in twenty twenty, it started ramping up.
But the point I want to make is that Kelly
not only got moved inside the White House as chief
of Staff, but when he left the White House, fired

(33:37):
out of the White House, he continued to support in
twenty twenty in the run up to the November election,
when you had Black Lives Matter and Antifa burning down
cities and including Washington, d C. You know, Saint John's
Episcopal Church across from Bafaiette Park and the White House
was under siege and partially burned. Trump here in front

(34:00):
of it with the Bible, and Trump was blamed for
the riot, but General Kelly supported General Millie and saying
that if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act, they would neither
one of them be in favor of following the order
to send troops into the United States to put down these, uh,
these violent protests going on, so basically insubordinate.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, right, I mean General John F. Kell who's given
aid and cover to our enemies, the cartels.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
That's treason and so well, and so is what Biden
did making this deal with on Doris and making the
in the Catholic Church, which is a combination now of
what Actuallysipgama CLLs, you know, the deep Church complicity in
these many crimes committed by the deep state worldwide.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And among them are the you know, this fake pandemic
and and the whole issue of what we're seeing in
the Ukraine war, we're seeing in the corruption Ukraine. We're
seeing the money coming, the children coming across the border,
the drugs coming across the border. I mean, it's clearly

(35:17):
twenty eleven I caught HSBC money laundering for the drug
cartels in Mexico, and the CIA had to be part
of that, as the Treasury and the National Security Agency did.
They all monitor every wire transfer going on worldwide, and
so therefore they had to be aware of the money
laundering that HSBC was doing. And recently TD Bank just

(35:38):
got fined three billion dollars for involvement in drug smuggling
activities worldwide. So again the evil here that we're talking
about deep state, deep Church was at the heart of
the Biden administration. Is that right?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I mean, that's that's critical to what Here's the book
we're talking about just published by Mike McCormick, An Insurmountable Evil,
and the subtitle is how Obama's Deep State defiled the
Catholic Church and executed the Wuhan Pandemic. We're covering the
part today about the Catholic Church. And it seems to

(36:16):
me that the evil in the Catholic Church was in
league with the deep state, anti god, traitorous deep state
CIA and other state department, other apparatus that was overthrowing
legitimate rulers and Ukraine and destabilizing Ukraine into war, that

(36:39):
was at our border, wreaking deals with Honduras, et cetera,
and China making deals that disadvantaged Christians.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right, And it's not just the United States. I mean
Pope France came in and became the refugee pope. He
did morality laundering for the migration of refuge into the
United States across our sun their mortar, but also all
through Europe. So Europe is all these terrible afflictions they're

(37:08):
facing in Europe right now is because almost over ten
years ago, Pope Francis was elected and put in place
to be the refugee promoting we have to go out
there and use the church and use our wealth to
help the poor people and take care of them. And
the CIA and the globalists in the World Economic Forum

(37:31):
were behind it the whole time, and the everyday people
like you know, middle class people who pay their taxes
and expect safety, didn't get it. They haven't getting it.
And you know, Vice President Vance went over to the
Munich Security Conference last week and did an amazing job
confronting the Europeans on their breakdown in the just basic

(37:56):
principles of free speech and you know, giving people the
right to assemble and speak their minds about the problems
in our communities. So this is a globalist thing, and
the Vatican is morality launering the whole thing. It's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, the Hope just issued a letter saying it was
a moral duty to receive these immigrants without revealing the
billions of dollars in funding. I mean, the Catholic Church
has been having to pay out huge amounts of money
and the sex scandals of the priests, but again, the

(38:41):
billions of dollars received to do this ethnic substitution scheme,
Marxist scheme being billed as a this immigration friendly, woke
deep Church, which is saying that using for instance, a
good Samaritan parable from Jesus to say that we have

(39:03):
to help these immigrants come into the United States and
welcome them, without revealing how much of a money making
activity it is for the Catholic Church and how the
real agenda is the destruction of the United States.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, that's right. And you know, Vice President Dance was
interviewed with Fox News. Hannity interviewed him. It's Sean Hannity,
and he had this he talked about this this concept
that was called it was he called it an old

(39:40):
school Christian concept where first you take care of your family,
then you take care of your community, then you take
care of your fellow countrymen, and eventually you take care
of foreign countrymen. You don't worry about the foreign people
before you worry about you know, all these other sort
of like a rings of love. And so that's why

(40:04):
Pope Francis had to reply with that letter and say,
oh no, it's not rings of love. It's you have
to understand there's a if there's a stranger there, like
the good Samaritan, you have to take care of them.
And so Pope Francis was directly refuting what Vice President
Vance said. And you know this is this is the

(40:26):
Pope getting into politics in a way the Catholic Church
should never be in politics. And he's writing the thick
of it because they're dirty. The Pope has committed grave
sins with his church and his papacy, and he has
to confess in public to get the able to be

(40:47):
able to cleanse his soul and the church.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Well, that's never going to happen, I don't think, because
I think that they'll all be so deeply into this
evil they'll never want to admit it.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well, then we're going to have to do an investigation.
And I think you're right, you know, I think the
American side of it, what the Americans did, what Obama,
Biden and McDonough is the guy that knows everything. Mcdonaugh
is the White House chief of staff. He doesn't he's
not the president. He knows what was going on and

(41:24):
he can tell everything because he was the point man
before he was White House chief of staff with McCarrick.
He can tell you what McCarrick's background is. He can
tell you what they knew about the cartels in Honduras
and when they when they how they were involved. He
can tell you all about why there was really a
bunch of unaccompanied minors at the southern border in twenty fourteen.

(41:47):
So Dennis McDonough is the guy who's got to come
out and confess. I hope he does. You know, the community.
He's got a statue in the community, he's got a family.
He should stand up and confess publicly to the sins
that he knows he's committed. As White House Chief Staff
is a Democratic poll operative.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Right Well, this letter that Coop Friends has wrote to
the bishops of the United States makes it seem like
there is a you know, twisting Jesus Christ's life to
saying that we have to support these migrants, and not

(42:30):
in terms of there without talking at all about you know,
the drugs that have been imported to the children who
have been sold into sex slavery, with the evil side
of this at all. He's saying it's you know, Christians
know very well that is only by affirming the infinite
dignity of all that our own identity as persons and

(42:51):
as communities reaches its maturity. So he's saying we have
to take into the out to the and he says,
the true orto amorous is what you're referring to. Yeah,
or do I know the order of law that you
eventually have to reach out to foreigners and immigrating and
love them. It's basically that must be promoted. As we

(43:15):
discover by media, meditating consists constantly of the parable the
Good Samaritan. That's by meditating on the love that builds
a fraternity open to us without exception. Okay, now that's
a fundamental perversion of what the Good Samaritan is all about.
And you know it is not it is Christ is

(43:39):
not teaching that we have to the good a Meritans.
The Samaritans in ancient Judea were Bible reading, but they
were in a sense an a schism where they refuse
to accept certain of the fundamental teachings of that time
of Judaism. And they were there was hatred between the

(44:02):
Samaritans and the Jews, and so the idea here was
one of seeing past that hatred, but it was not
one of you know, welcoming the Samaritans into Judea. That's
not what Christ was talking about. You know, that's it's
a fundamental utilizing. And this is what liberation theology attempts

(44:28):
to do. It attempts to make Jesus Christ appear to
be on board with this social justice agenda.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Right, that's the morality laundering. That's what he was doing.
That he's still doing it. They brought him into do it,
and that's what he does, morality laundering.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, And the fundamental fraud of this is that, uh
Christ's mission was to bring souls to God and to
you know, and to preach the kingdom to come. And
so therefore, if you look at a mother Cabrini who
worked with immigrants, Italian immigrants begin with in the late

(45:10):
eighteen hundreds in the United States, what she was trying
to do is establish their faith, to preserve the faith
of the Italian Catholics in the United States despite the
hardships of what they were going through as immigrants where
they were not yet accepted. And so her mission was
one of salvation, not that you know, we need to

(45:33):
reach out to these immigrants and assimilate them into our
society when it's fulfilling a Marxist agenda of this ethnic
substitution plan to how to change fundamentally the belief in
Americans or in the sanctity of the family and marriage

(45:54):
being a sacrament between one man and one woman, to
expand this LGBT idea, which fundamentally is the destruction of
the Catholic Church.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, right, that's what they're working towards. It's disgusting, it's
it's an almost insurmountable evil. And the election of twenty
twenty four is when we stopped it because we put
Donald President Trump in there, back in there, and he's
he's revealing the corruption in the Catholic Church through the fund,

(46:28):
through the Doge revelations of the fund. You know, the
corrupt funding of the Catholic Us Conference of Catholic Bishops
and Catholic Relief Services, all the money that was stolen
there and you kicked back to various people. And then

(46:51):
you know, President Trump has also stood up and said,
you know, we're going to put an end to the border.
We're going to put an end and they stopped illegal
immigration cold and now they're starting to send people back.
And then he sends JD. Vance over to Europe and
Jada Vance basically tells the Europeans, you guys have to

(47:13):
do the same thing to the leadership at the Munich
Security Conference, and the leadership has to sit there and
listen because the people, the populist voice of the people,
has been saying it over and over for the last
well twenty sixteen. They had Brexit. In twenty sixteen, they
elected Trump, So that's when the populist voice made itself

(47:34):
known loudest, and the you know, and the Vatican just
pretended it didn't exist, and they could they knew better,
but they don't know better. And you know, Bote Francis,
I pray that he recovers from his illness and recovers
and confesses his sins and cleanses his soul and saves

(47:54):
Jesus Church with a resignation and a public confession so
that everybody understands from him what he did and that'll
save a soul. And that's what I pray for.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Well, I admire your enthusiasm for that to happen. I'm doubtful.
I think much much more likely is going to be
that we get this information and have Archbishop Rigano available
to provide information and to assist criminal investigation of massive
magnitudes that I would like to see the Trump administration

(48:30):
engage in with cash Bettel because there are crimes including
treason here that we're committed. Doge is seeing the money
aspects of it. And now we're about to see the
deep state CIA involvement in it. And then that's going
to be the complicity of our own government to be

(48:50):
in the drug cartel business, in business with the drug cartels,
and the United States government in business with uh the
child sex traffickers, child pornography, and all the other crimes,
as well as the LGBT agenda. And Trump is systematically

(49:13):
ending this, you know, non binary sexual neo Marxism from
the schools, is gender change operations of our children. I
think we're going to see a much more determined Trump
administration in the second term to root out this evil.

(49:34):
And I think it's not an an almost insurmountable evil.
Is a great is a great typification of it, because
the rooting out of an evil this entrenched is not going.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
To be easy. No, it's going to take a while, and.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
It's going to have to start with the education of
the public. I think Archbishop Igano is doing a great job.
I think Mike you're doing a great job. I strongly
recommen and that this book that everybody reads this book.
It's just been published, Crystal show it to you there
in better forms so you can see it. It's available

(50:10):
on Amazon and Barnes and Nobles, all the other electronic sources.
We're going to feature it on the Truthcentral dot com
and Mike, we're going to do more interviews with you.
There's much more in this book, having to do with
the Wuhan virus, having to do with China, right, having to.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Do with the.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Core corruption of the Obama presidency that transitioned to an
even greater magnitude of evil under Biden's administration. And this
evil cannot be left unexposed, and we're resolved to expose
it to the world and to track down these evil

(50:52):
criminals bring them justice. So Mike, we applaud you in
your efforts and we're going to do more interviews and
encourage more people to buy and read your book.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Great, thanks, doctor Corsi.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
God blessed, we'll have you back this, doctor Jerome Corsi,
and this is the Truthcentral dot Com. In the end,
God always wins. God is going to win here too,
and truth will prevail. I encourage everybody in spirit a
second Chronicle seven fourteen. Let's get on our knees and repent.
We can see how much evil we allowed to be
in the government and the Catholic Church. We need to

(51:27):
ask God to forgive us. God will hear our prayer
and heal our land. It'll be we need to act first.
God will take to the heavy lifting. God will handle
this problem provided that we're on the case to root
out the evil Doctor Jerome Corsi, thank you for joining us.
We're doing podcasts every weekday on corsination dot com.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Again.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
We'll hope you'll join us and spread the word about
the program. God Blessing except at e

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