October 17, 2025 • 48 mins
Silicon Satan author Cregg Lund talks with Dr. Jerome Corsi for another in a series about the book and the dark underbelly of Silicon Valley's. In this episode, Cregg and Dr. Corsi focus heavily on how the Luciferians among the Silicon Valley Elite find, seduce and groom girls and young women into their world.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Your angel.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is your own course. He and we have a
return guest with us. I'm very pleased to have with
us Craig Lund.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Again.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Craig is the author here of Silicon Satan. That's a
book we published here at post Tail Press. I'm an
acquiring editor of post Tale Press and I consider this
to be a very important book as a novel. And Craig,
thanks for joining us. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm good, Thank you having me back.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh yeah, we're gonna do much more on this now.
The whole point of Silicon Satan is to expose the
satanic nature of what goes on in Silicon Valley. And
the book is shocking, it has very explicit parts to it.
But the whole point in publishing it was that we
(00:51):
can handle the truth, and we need to know the truth.
In other words, we're seeing here now the country reacting
to the woke I think was nothing but neo Marxism
and you know, redo of cultural maoismult resulted in an anarchy.
The country's rejected all of this bizarre uh trans genderism,
(01:15):
and the country is I think, in rejecting the woke
agenda in its entirety. But the country is not get
awakened to what P did e and you know, the
all of this is about with all the six parties
and what truly goes on among the elite in Hollywood,
the elite in general. H The Silicon Valley is a
(01:38):
good demonstration of it. And Craig, you were a first
hand witness in it. You were a programmer who was
doing very well and in a Silicon valley. You want
to give us a couple of minutes about your background
and what what brought you to write this book.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, I was. I was an up and coming engineer
in Silicon Valley when back that's back when Silicon only
first started. I mean, it was a new industry. When
I first started, Uh it was. It was pretty pure
and innocent, just a bunch of nerds hanging around and
building things. And then the business people came in back
to it was about around the dot com bubbles when
(02:15):
things really started to change. And that's when I started
getting invited to parties and seeing stuff that was going on.
And at first I thought, well, this is just craziness,
and then I realized a lot of these big wigs
are doing it. A lot of the a lot of
the big guys are doing it. And then you know,
before I knew it, I was kind of doing it,
(02:36):
and I realized, Okay, I got to get out of here,
because if I stay on this path, I'm going to
get very rich, but I'm going to get locked into
something that I really don't want to be locked into.
And uh, it was difficult to get out. Actually, it
was very difficult. I couldn't have got out by myself,
but it took it took a lot of prayer and
a lot of help from yeah, from God to get
(02:57):
me out of there. But here I am so I
wrote the book. It was really hard to write it.
There's two two good things. One was it it helped
me to go back and relive and kind of refight
these old battles and get them out of my system.
I know. There's is that it's kind of the people
have read it. They're shocked at first, but then they
have a lot of good questions about Okay, well what
(03:18):
about this over here? It's like, yeah, that that too,
that's part of it. So people are waking up. I
noticed that the elite they're not They're they're responding to
being exposed, but they're not really running for cover. That's worrisome.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, they will be running for cover, I think after
a while. But I think more is going to get exposed,
and Jeffrey Epstein Moore is going to get exposed on
P Diddy. I think the you know, the whole corruption
in this, you know, the child's s like sex trade,
the pedophilia, h it, We're just at the front edge
(03:55):
of it being exposed. I mean, he's talking about the
five hundred thousand and children that that Biden brought across
the border and were really sex trafficked or were abandoned.
So that's now beginning to be looked at. And I
think we're going to find much more on that, even
with the Catholic Church and you know this Archbishop McCarrick.
(04:18):
We have done many different podcasts on it. More will
be coming out there too. But I want to first
go to the website, a Coorsination website and christ We
will help us navigate through this. The Coracination website. Now,
if you scroll down, I'm featuring two authors. Mike McCormick,
(04:40):
who has done this book on He's done a lot
of writing about Archbishop Vigano enrolled and so very close
to Archbishop Vigano. There's Mike McCormick, a younger picture of
Mike McCormick, and Mike was a he was part of it,
was a stenographer, was very close to Biden official stenographer
in the White House, and he experienced a lot of
(05:01):
the corruption of the Biden family in Ukraine and also
with the Vatican making deals that involve pedophilia and drug
trafficking the Vatican and the Biden administration were involved in
and it's also very shocking. And then scroll down a
little further and you'll see the sections devoted to Silicon,
(05:22):
Satan and Craig. Now, Craig's actually writing a second novel
and it's being serialized on the website. So he's got
here Where's Wally Part two? And if you'll scroll down
a little bit more, Chris, you can see here are
the animations, the drawings. Craig ended up being a very
(05:44):
very accomplished graphic artist, and so there's illustrations that go
with this book that show you what the different scenes are.
And we go all the way down to the bottom.
We want to see more about Craig's writing. There is
an archive, so you can click down to the very
bottom and go down to the very bottom, Chris and
see if you can get into the archive.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And by the way, I am working on I am
working on the animations everything with a group from Poland,
but they kind of build on me, so I gotta
figure that out. But I will have animations out there
seeing that sort of play out some of these scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'm looking forward to that. And this is how much
he's written in the new book. And so you can
read the new book right on here of courses. It
gets finished and we put it into print, we'll probably
start removing it from the website, but you're going to
get an advanced look at it. And I think it's
going to be a very very interesting book. I've yet
(06:38):
to get into it as deeply as I want to,
but I want to go back to Silicon Satan and
feature kind of how the what's in this book, And
it's a fascinating story when you start reading it, I
think at first, like Craig said, you're going to find
it shocking. Some of the parts of it are truly shocking,
(06:59):
and yet it's hard to put down because when your
mind gets into what's going on and involves a lot
of explicit sex, group sex, and drugs, Satan worship, baby
killing and eating. I mean, it's tough to get your
(07:22):
mind around what the Satanic practices really are all about.
But I want to feature a couple today. I want
to feature on one of the characters in it, who
is called Brenda, and tell the story here, because the
book involves a character who's really Craig named Rog and
(07:43):
a ranch in California, a horse ranch, when he's growing
up on his experiences, and one of the experiences is
with this older woman whose name is Brenda. Now we're
going to contrast how Brenda works in this story. She's
really kind of of a contemporary woman to hippie free love,
(08:05):
and she innocently seduces this young Rog, and it gets
compared to another character later on the book, who is
Way Parson, who is a Hollywood photographer from Malibu, seduces
Sloan Well. Sloane is the female counterpart to Roger in
the book. Roger and Sloan meet and have sexual experiences
(08:29):
when they're very young and end up getting married and
participating in all the sexual extravagance that became Silicon Valley.
And this is a fictionalized version. Really Craig of what
you went through. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah? It is. And it's interesting because I'm glad I
wrote the book when I did, because I've had a
couple of people accuse me of trying to copy stuff
that's going on now. It's like, but I wrote the
book a long time ago. I wrote it before all
of this. So everything you're seeing now being played out
in the news and Pew didion and such, that's not
by accident. That was really happening.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And how long have we been working on this together?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, eight years or something?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Eight years? I mean we started this a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Right, And when I first contacted you, I had all
the stories with me. It's it's not like I've been
developing them along, you know, as we went this is all.
This is the way it happened in Silicon Valley and
in Hollywood and in DC and other places. And now
I'm starting to see it happening in the podcasting world.
But we can talk about that later.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, I mean, it's coming out and it's going to
come out more. But you know, you've actually written and
thrown away this book a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, it's a hard It was a hard hard. It
was a really hard, pride. I've been through some hard projects.
This is the worst. This is the hardest thing I've
ever done in my life. Go back and.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Write this stuff, writing a book, writing a book writing.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You know what, if anybody who thinks writing is easy
hasn't really tried this serious fashion. It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, now that I'm going a second book is I
wouldn't call it easy either, but it's at least I
know what I'm doing a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, you're and you're writing is improving. I constantly. I
think people are going to I can see this being
a series of books, and I think people will get
into them and read them all. It may take it
may take a while for you to build a big readership,
but I think over time you're going to have a
following and people are going to be wanting to see that.
(10:31):
And when they get into one book, they're going to
go back and read them all, which is what people
typically do. So it may take you a while here
to get established, but it will happen. It's just a
manner of continuing to do it and continuing to persist.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And you know, well, my main goal though, isn't really
to sale books. I need. I want people to see
what's really going on, because if you read something like this,
it's going to be shocking and you're gonna you're gonna say,
no way, that's not happening. But then you're going to
start seeing it all over the place and it'll help
wake people up. You got to get through this first, people.
The hardest part is getting your head wrapped around it.
This stuff is actually going on all over the place.
(11:08):
You know, we live in a you know, an evil kingdom.
It doesn't matter how many how much wallpaper you can
put up, it's still it's still an evil kingdom.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, So when we start encountering Brenda, and tell me
about Brenda, because she had you know, Brenda was a girlfriend,
But describe her and and how you know we say
here that you know, he sees her still in bed
and she's been steadily studying the tall monkey hippie cowboy
(11:42):
as he gracefully moves around the small, incommodious but comfortable
airstream airstream travel trailer that's cram full of his horse
tack and leather products. So Louis is her boyfriend before
Rodge comes on? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah? So, so Brenda kind of represents a lot of
different women of that time where she was this free spirit.
She wasn't evil, she didn't think she was. She was
just like everything was about free love, free free You
were there doing those those those years.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I didn't participate as much as you. We were all
affected by it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, it's interesting because of the barn of the ranch.
You know, the horse business is eighty percent female, so
it attracted a lot of females out there. And our
horse unch was big, you know, we sold to Ronald
Reagan and such we trained, so we trained Tennessee walkers.
That the two most famous horses, Trigger and High Host
Silver are Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Walkers, right, the beautiful ourses.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And and the reason why people like him is because
their plantation, their their pleasure horses. They have a different gait.
If you watch someone riding a Tennessee walker, the rider
doesn't bounce up and down. He's go smooth. And they were.
They were red so that you could run around your
your plant, your your ten thousand acre plantation all day
without getting a sword.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So so so women like Brenda were always out there
and she's she's sort of an accumulation of of of
a few different gals that I ran into when I
was young, out.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
There well and and available all the time for sex.
I mean, sex was not a big deal in some senses.
It was just kind of part of the culture, part
of the what was available. But that's how certainly reading
about Brenda comes across in the book.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and her her her slatiness was encouraged. You know
that the society at the time was encouraging women like
her to kind of flaunt it the braw less and penniless.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And right and to be available right constantly.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now, looking back, I don't know how organic that whole
culture was anymore looking back, but at the time it
sure changed things, right and sexual revolution.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So when you turned thirteen, there's part of here on
page one twenty four of the book. You start turning thirteen,
and so you're having much more of an encounter here
with Brenda, and you're realizing that, you know, the conversation
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is Brenda's asking whether you've had these sex If you say,
rog says you mean actual sex, and well we need
to remedy. That is what basically Louis is teasing. And
Louie is the boyfriend of Brenda, and he says, I
(14:53):
give you my permission to have all the sex you
want here with young Rog. He's telling Brenda, and so
she punches them harder and says, stop Louis, and he said,
I'm just teasing. You know, I didn't get my first
sex until I was fifteen, but maybe Rog needs some
sex at thirteen. So you know, that's kind of an
(15:15):
again hard to imagine in some senses that you know,
she's asking her boyfriend if she could have sex with
this thirteen year old underage and he seems to be
encouraging it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, it was very common for me, young men like me.
I'm wasn't the only young man at the rest, but
it was very very common for us to get teased
all the time. Yeah, you know, even at like ten, eleven, twelve,
you know, did you get pussy? Yeah, you know, very
very common to get pee teased about our virginity. So
it was so I mean, it wasn't it wasn't. I
(15:54):
wouldn't call it abusive, but it certainly wasn't healthy.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's kind of ubiquitous everywhere. It's all part of the culture.
I mean, you're that and the sexualization of young children
ten thirteen was not uncommon.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, I don't think it was. I don't think it
was nefariously intentional either. I don't think that, you know,
these galps are sitting around and going, hey man, we
gotta go fuck quick. I think it was just it
was just part of the culture at the time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah. I mean, and and the way you describe it
in the book is playful, but again is very suggestive.
I mean, you know that, you know, this whole idea
of the Lolita characteristic seducing a young person, and you know,
(16:55):
and Brenda's really begins to come on to Rag and
increasingly encouraging him, So it becomes almost inevitable that Brenda
and Roger're going to have sex. It almost threw all
the teasing, the sexual conversation and batter they have back
and forth. It becomes like almost assumed it's gonna happen.
(17:18):
You would you agree?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, And it got to the point where it gets
to the point where it has to happen it otherwise
you're just gonna get teased relentlessly.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
They're gonna Yeah, what was wrong with you that you
didn't want to try it? It was made available to you,
you didn't want to try it? You know, yeah, and
so then when it finally happens, you know, she starts
kissing you and then seduces you. When when you're right
about that, what's going on with the characters? What's Roger
(17:50):
experiencing is he gets seduced for the first time for sex? Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, Rogers, is you know, happy for you know, you know,
on one side, but I'm very confused on the other side.
What you know, this is kind of weird. What are
we doing? Is? I mean, it's kind of when I
look back, way way back, and you know, uh, it's
(18:17):
it's kind of overwhelming for a kid like that. It
shouldn't have happened, you know, because you know, I think back,
you know, the ranch was the perfect you know, I
could be running around a nice ranch right now if
it hadn't been for all these weirdos that that that
were out there.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, my weirdos, I mean my family, your family,
the ones you grew up with, right.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
The ones who created the ranch. Well, it's my grandfather's ranch,
and you know, it's just like any other thing. I
don't know if you've ever if you've heard the like
the Righteous Gemstones series where the father is a preacher
and he makes a lot of money and his kids
ruined everything. It's kind of the same thing. My grandfather
built a ranch, it was successful and his kids ruined it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I mean it gets to be explicit sex to
talk about what goes on and how she basically lays
back and pulls up her skirt and seduces him.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, as the reader, as a reader, if you can't
get through that, you can't you should just put the
book down.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Because, yeah, if you can't get past about page one
fifty four, probably this is not for you. But I'd
suspect that most people get to one fifty four page
one fifty four are really now wanting to learn more
of how all this goes on and what happens. But
the as shocking as this whole sexual episode of introducing
(19:34):
Roge to sex with Brenda is and how explicit it is,
I want to switch to what happens with Sloan. So
talk about this character Parsons, who is the Hollywood photography
He certainly comes from Malibu. Of course he comes on
much more of a slick operator.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, so we so the real Sloan in my life,
it was a real problem because she was she was
you know, a drop dead gorgeous little girl. Uh and
taking her taking being what there was was really problematic
because there was so many guys, especially during those times,
so many so many men were photographers, you know, so
many men wanted to make her a model. So she's
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just constantly getting hit on by these creeps, and you know,
it comes to a point where where eventually she gives
in because she's interested in it, and it doesn't work
out at all. I mean, she's not she doesn't get
what she was promised. She just got used as all
and right the end, that was happening all the.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Time, and again the idea of you know, of course
taking naked pictures, and the whole thing was, you know,
from the photographer's point of view, was really sexualized from
the from Solan's point of view, she's young and is
not fully aware of what's going on. She's it's kind
of fun and titillating, but she's not conceptualizing it the
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way he is.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Plus, plus, she's she's realizing for the first time her
her sexual power. Because even though even though this guy's
ultimate goal is just to get just just to you know,
have sex with her, she's in there too. She's, she's,
she's she thinks she's manipulating him at the same time.
So it's like the contrast to the Brenda Rod It's
it's two different scenarios completely. I mean, it's it's both
(21:20):
about you know, sex with with underrage kids. But on
one hand, it sort of happens innocently. I guess I
don't think Brenda was really out to, you know, screw
young young boys. But with Parson, that's what he does.
That's his game, you know, get as many as you can.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, and and and the talk as he's grooming her,
which is preparing her for sex. I mean, on page
one forty one, you've got a conversation and Parsons is
kind of saying, you know, and and Sloan is beginning
to realize what he's talking about. Said, you mean you
really want me to sit behind the mirror and watch
(22:02):
me getting dressed? And he says most definitely. He says,
what that's sick. What about in the bathroom would you
watch me take a shower? He says, especially in the
shower well length one way mirrors right next to the shower.
Oh my god, that's so nasty. Song reacts, you seriously
want to watch me take a shower, said, I watched
you swimming just now, what's the difference. Well, for one thing,
(22:23):
I'm naked when I take a shower, so you're practically
naked now, So he's the conversation is really working her
into normalizing that the sexual nature of the relationship is
just expected or it's just normal. What right?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And it's extremely manipulative. But but you look, look today,
it just happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Now, I mean a be more detailed about that. And
how do you mean, what do you what are you
thinking in terms of how it happens all the time?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Now? Well, back back then, remember you know, I had
three sisters too that were that were attractive and alluring,
and they were everybody was always getting hit on. We
were all, you know, the young as the young kids,
we were getting hit on and it was kind of strange.
But it wasn't happening to our friends. Our friends weren't
getting hit on. Maybe some of them were, but we
didn't really talk about it, whereas today it seems like
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all children are are put into position where they're getting
hit on as sex objects. It's you know, it's and
that seems to be common children today have to there,
They have to face this while we were facing back
then and was considered uh, you know, wrong is what
(23:39):
kids go through all the time now, and we didn't
do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean back then you had the Brady Bunches
being the you know, the typical family, and you know,
even before then it was leave it to beaver. I mean,
these were very innocent children, whereas today, you know, with
the wacky left, they're they're wanting to have transgender store
hour told taught by a transgender and children's books on
(24:06):
sex from like kindergarten, first grade on and books on
sex in the school libraries today, which are ample would
in prior errors would not have been permitted, but today
are common and taught and the teachers are I mean,
there's more discussion of sex going on in the classrooms
(24:29):
today than I think ever before.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I remember my sister's getting really mad because they came
out with their dress code at the high school where
girls could no longer show. They were starting to show
their mid drifts, you know, their belly buttons, and the
school climbed down say no, you're not, you can't do
that anymore. I mean, compare that to today. I mean
they came home because we had dressed, cause they came
home upset. Because so that's what makes me wonder how
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organic was a sexual revolution, because where it's got everybody
today it seems almost seems like it was contrived and
done on purpose.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well it was. I mean, this is the same period
of time when writers like Herbert Marcusi, who is a
Communist of the Frankfurt School, It's writing books called aeros
and Civilization, which is right in the university, saying that
liberation comes from unbridled sex. Until we have an unlimited
(25:20):
little beatle it explored and performed in real life, we're
not reaching our full potential.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Right. Plus, at least Afarians, their whole thing is sex oriented,
you know, Obsort of Crowley of everything was sex. Sex. Sex.
That's how you get that's how you get the magic.
You know this this uh this n s thirty one
and he's six gals that that sex ritually just did
in space. Everything's always about about sex with them. So
that's why that's why I look back as an old
(25:50):
man now and when I say I don't think it was,
I'm really saying is I know it wasn't organic. I
know that the sexual revolution was was was was created. Sorry,
it was great to bring us to this point today.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, I go on to
all of this, you know. So Parsons leads into the
master bedroom and the King's eye bed covered a lot
of white billowy sheets and comforters. There's a camera set
up on a tripod on the foot of the bed,
and he says, the bed and sheets represent the beach.
So I thought, we just have you pose on the
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sheets like you're lying on your beach towel. So do
you want me to lie in the bed? He said, yeah,
I've photographed other girls this way before. It's a classy
way to show how sexy you can get without being slutty.
Give it a try. So he's getting her to get
in a position and then gets her to loosen up,
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and he said, no, the camera's are in love with you,
and so am I. And he says, you know, they
finally suggested that she go topless. Okay, So it's it's
a grooming step by step, well getting if you accepted this, well,
then why can't you accept this? There's one step more
into the you know, the sexual experience of a you know,
(27:13):
Sloan having a sexual affair with a much older man
and she you know, paid forty five you says she
loves it. On her fourth relationship there developed into a
master slave game where Sloane suggests that Parson put on
one of the Pirate outforts outfits. Then ravage her tells
(27:34):
him she has a fantasy of being captured by cowboys
and horses who use her for their own pleasures. Pirates
close enough. So, I mean it gets into the sexualization
of children is part of the Satanic process.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Right And if you look at that process, that that
that little girl just went through, uh not every little
girl when they get into that situation is going to
go through with it. A lot I'm gonna get scared,
a lot of not aren't even get invited. And the
same thing happens. What's happening to us engineers in Silicon
Valley back then. It's just it's little by little, they're
kind of grooming you into this situation, into this into
(28:13):
this club, you know, and they test you along the
way how far will you go? How far are you
willing to go? And they reward you too, you know,
if you go, if you if you take your shirt off,
and you know, or if you go to the part
of the ritual and participate and you get a reward,
you get you get attention, you get uh maybe a promotion,
a position, you get invited to the next party, and
(28:35):
so kind of it. They're pretty good at They're pretty
good at doing what they do. They're grooming people human
beings and doing things that we know we shouldn't do
and probably don't want to do. But the rewards are
are are worth it.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, it's you know again, you make the point constantly
that you know, you can experience Silicon Valley or something
like that and and do all right, you know, make
a living, you have a reasonable life, raised children, have
a marriage that's you know, actual actually a marriage and
(29:13):
is not open to sex with others. But you're not
going to advance to the higher levels in Silicon Valley
unless you abandon that model.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Right, And you wouldn't even know it either, You wouldn't.
You would just think, well, I just wasn't good enough,
I wasn't lucky enough. Like, no, you weren't crazy enough.
That's that's the only difference. I mean, somebody, somebody, these
uber rich people are extremely crazy, and that's how they
got there. They had the person they had the right personality,
had that that crazy you know, that that type of personality.
(29:43):
I guess they were willing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They were willing and anxious to do this type of
these things and to cross these lines.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah. See, if somebody had told me in the beginning
where I was heading, I would have never left the ranch.
But I didn't know what I was getting myself. I
didn't not know what I was getting into. I knew
what I was doing. And pretty soon you get so
far that you think, oh, I can't turn back now,
And that's sort of they do that on purpose as well,
and they get you to the point where, well, how much
(30:12):
are you willing to give up? Fine? You want out, Fine,
you can give up everything. You're never going to get
back here, You're never gonna you're never going to play again.
You're you know, you're never going to get that another contract.
You know, and you got and you're so far, you're
so far into it now that it's like, how am
I ever going to get back to a simple life?
But you can, you can't. I mean, look at me,
I'm I live off grid now.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, but you also realize and writing the book, it's
clear you realize that you know what you were going
through at the ranch when you started out into sente
that are seduced by an older woman and brought into this.
It's grooming you went through prepared you to you know,
when Sloan comes around, she's not shocking any longer. It's titillating.
(31:00):
And then these sex orgy parties and drugs are just
an enhancement of what you already agreed to do.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So it's a progression pretty much. What's really interesting. The
other thing that's interesting is with my story is is
the bikers taking over their ranch. I look back now,
it's like, how did that ever happen. I'm glad it did, though,
because it kind of gave me a sense or a
view of the world where you can be crazy, but
it doesn't you don't have to be evil. So you
(31:28):
like these bikers. Everybody thinks they're evil and crazy. A
lot of them are, but most of them aren't. Most
of them are family guys. It's just something that they do.
The like. They like the security of being an outlaw biker.
It's a club to them. It's secured, it's safety, it's community,
and it's it's a hobby.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right, it's a weekend thing to do, and.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
That's a lifestyle for them. But their bikes or hobbies,
so okay.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
But again, you know, the we'll cover that. That's another complex.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Part of the book.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But the you know, the this whole grooming and you know,
because Brenda continues throughout the book, I mean, she continue
out through a good long part of the book, and
in the second book too, I mean it's like, you know,
the sex with her gets more and more deep and addictive,
(32:26):
and and she begins teaching Rag much more, coaching him,
and and the the the sexual reality that they begin
living in, you know, is not is abnormal because it's
it's an obsession with sex. It's it becomes everything becomes
(32:49):
experienced through sex, you know, whereas an normal you know,
child rearing kids aren't interested in sex until puberty. And
here's way before puberty, and they're beginning to get into
what it's about before they really understand what it's about.
But by the time they do understand what it's about,
(33:11):
then they're more deeply into it because they've already been
a cultured the behaviors and learned the behaviors, and now
they cross over into a deeper enjoyment of them, and
it begins to it begins to dominate their entire experience.
It becomes what they're thinking about all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Plus it breaks down, if it kind of breaks down
a whole taboo structure. When you're you're that young, and
you see how easy it is for the adults to
break down these taboos that you've been hearing about. It
makes it easier to break the next one and the
next one. And you know, you're still a kid, you're
still a young person, and you're already, you know, doing
things you know you're not supposed to.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Do, and and somehow intuitively you know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You know it's not right. It just doesn't. It isn't.
But yet it's alluring, and you've crossed the line and
you've decided to go into that. That's happening, right, And
so the seduction part of Silicon Valley, and then coupling
it with financial success, worldly goods accomplishment, you know, I mean,
(34:24):
we'd all get people to be billionaires on stock, which
is you know, again creating wealth out of nothing. It's
almost magical. It's conferred on you and it's conferred on
you because you've agreed to immerse into this lifestyle. And
(34:47):
so when asked to perform rituals killing babies, eating babies,
going after sex orgies in which someone is killed to
heighten the sexual pleasure of the others, watching things that
(35:07):
are just completely evil. And we're showing here a number
of the pictures of the illustrations in the book, so
you can really see how the Satanic world emerges from
a innocent reality and before you know what, you're in
the middle of the Satanic ritual that you've step by
(35:28):
step bought into. It has become your reality. It has
become now normal. And that's the I think the shocking
part of this is the progression of evil and how
it becomes captivating once you're in it, such that escaping
from it almost requires superhuman effort.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Well, it happens to a lot of people in Hollywood
and in Silicon where you're just overwhelmed with it. Yeah.
I remember I was sitting there one day and I
had a twelve million dollar portfolio and I wanted to
get out, and I kept looking, you know, at my
documents over here, and this is really difficult to and
I realized I realized looking back, it was just money
(36:08):
on paper, and they do that to you on purpose.
You think you're a millionaire, you're really not. There's nothing
I could do with that, you know. I suppose I
can cash it out or something, but you know, and
then I had this nice flat in San Francisco, and
I had a car, and I had two Harley Davidson's
in a cell boat. And it's really hard to give up,
really hard to give up. I mean a lot of
people say, well, you're just materialistic. Yeah, but it's more
(36:32):
than that, because I had power and prestige and position.
You know, I had I had friends I didn't even
know their names, and I had people, you know, flocking
around me didn't even know who they were.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, Silicon Satan is a book that I think is
important to have been written and read. And it is
not written for the purpose of titillation. It's not pornography
because it's the moral. Part of the writing is you
(37:03):
just have to, unfortunately, really explain what it's about in detail.
Otherwise it wouldn't be understood. If you didn't go through
the explicit description of what's going on, you wouldn't understand
the experience.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, I hoping. I hope think it fast tracks a
number of people in the in the wokeness, in the
wo but into waking up, and not not even just
really waking up. I see a lot of people there
they know this goes on, but they're not really looking
at You need to look at you. You need to
you need to look at it. You need to see
what's really going on around you, because once you do,
then you're you're no longer, you don't have that bubble
(37:37):
around you anymore, and then you can start seeing it
at other places, and then maybe we could start doing
something about it, because I really don't see a whole
lot being done yet.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, the awareness is yet happening. I mean, first, for instance,
I think most people don't understand the pervasiveness of you know,
of pedophilia, sex with underage children, and how it is
part of the in facts, central to this culture. Yeah,
(38:08):
and central of the culture in a way that you know,
for a child, first of all, they're separated from their
parents so that they're immediately taken away from all the
love they had in their lives. They're abandoned, treated very
roughly by their handlers, forced to have sex with older
(38:31):
you know, aged people are the same or other sex.
They don't understand, and it's often drunken and brutal. The
kids are in despair, you know, they can want to
go back and have a childhood. They've lost their childhood.
To do that to a child is almost an unimaginable crime.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, and I see, I see, I see them grooming
society into accepting all this. It's all over the place.
You know. The Brenda version of that is being pushed
out as though it's it's kind of healthy and it's
natural and there's nothing wrong with it, you know. But
the Brenda version is not really what happens. Not even
(39:16):
the Parson version mostly is what happens. But there's even
but the the version that go it comes on later
in the book, is what really happens what you were
just talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, well we'll get there and and again, as there's
going to be a series of interviews, they're going to
be you know, we're going to have these interviews. I
want these interviews also archived on the website so people
can watch them and see a series of interviews that
we do because over a period of time, will have
covered much of the book and talked about much of
the book.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I mean, what's once they make pedophilia no longer illegal,
then then then we're all screwed. Well no pintent then
then then then we're I mean we're gonna and I
see that happening now that they're grooming everybody to accepting this,
and pretty soon pedophilia will be acceptable. I think it's
acceptable in some certain countries now right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Well, it it is. But again, I think the reaction
to it, in some ways, I think it was almost
give to God that we had Biden steal the election
in twenty twenty, so we got to see how horrible
these people were. And you know, you have half a
million children coming across the border that disappear and either
(40:25):
slave child's slave labor or child sex trade.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
And look, I know, people, I know, I know people
don't want to believe it, but that's that's the adrenalin
chrome industry. Most of those children end up in adrenal rome.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
We'll talk about adrena chrome.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I remember they didn't call it drena crow back then.
They called it chrome chroming. And I think I got
chrome to us because somebody put three drops of something
just straight out of the hunter Thompson all my tongue
and I was, I was, I was having fun for
three days. I was. It was like having the best cocaine,
the best of everything all at once.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
The last where does it come from?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well, I was, I don't know where they got that.
I was in You mean, how do they manufactured? They
manufactured through uh, scaring little children into I mean, you
can look all that up.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's it's just scaring the little children into producing these
hormonal reactions, right.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So, so like the whole frazzle drip thing, I don't know,
I don't know if you're if you're familiar with that
with Hillary and Huma and the frazzle drip Ruber. But
where they they actually cut the face off one of
the children was wearing it to freak them out, and
that uh morty cartoon. They did a kind of a
cartoon about it. But that they that's what goes on.
That's what they do. They they they abuse these children's
(41:46):
portraum and they need children because it works better with children,
and they harvest this adrenal crome out of their blood
and they use it as a drug. And that's what
goes on.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
That's what it's about.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
And tell people accept that, and there's a lot, there's
so much evidence of it out there to tell people
that actually accept it that's going on, and nobody's going
to do anything about it. The hardest part is getting
people to get you know, wrap your hair around this.
This is happening once. I mean, you can't explain where
these five hundred thousand children are going. You can't explain
why Share looks like she's twenty seven years old. Still,
you can't explain why the people who drop off suddenly
(42:23):
get really old because they don't get it anymore. And
knowing that, but it kind of makes sense. You know.
We write this kind of stuff in these magical potions
and our fair tales all the time. That makes you
think it's not really happening. I mean, but it is.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Well, it's the the awareness of these practices. And again,
if we get more of the p Diddy and more
of the Epstein and all these stories coming out and
being told, and right now, I think even the Justice
Department suppressing it, it's still not letting it come out.
(43:02):
Even though we're supposed to have Pam Bondi and Cash
Betel and tell all and let these you know, we
still have classified documents suppressing reality and truth about the
CIA Kennedy assassination. A lot of documents were destroyed that
will never be found now because they were destroyed. Others
are still being withheld because they were never turned over
(43:22):
by the CIA and others. They were kept hidden despite
the law demanding they be turned over the assassination's Records
Review Board in the nineteen nineties, they weren't turned over. Okay,
so the lies and this age is coming to an
end with Trump coming in and the shocking revelations we're finding.
(43:46):
But you're going to see a lot more like you say,
You get asked by people saying, well, okay, this person suicided,
did they really suicide? And you begin to explain red scarfing.
What is red scarfing?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Red scarfing is the way they used to get rid
of people and and send a message at the same time.
I don't see it so much more because I think
they got too much exposure. But it's where you the
guy will go in and uh, you know, strangle you
and then make it look like you hung yourself on
a doorknob with a red scarf. I mean, nobody can
(44:20):
hang themselves on a doorknob. You wouldn't you wouldn't actually
get up right, and then they try to use the
sexual assistiation as like for David Carrotine. But again the
setup is all wrong. So if people would start realizing
that this kind of stuff is going on, it'd be
easier for the for for them to realize that. Okay,
(44:42):
so whether the jf PY files probably are true and
all those all those conspiracies probably are true, it's only
takes one thing to kind of break down there their
their damn move or their wall of security.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well, once this is penetrated, once the evil scene, I
believe it, you can't unsee it, and I think that
people are going to repudiate it because you don't want
your children brought into this. You don't want it happening
to the ones you've created and loved.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
And that's sort of their limit because you can't. It's
hard to see something you don't want to see. It's
so awful you really don't want to look at it,
but you need to. It's one of those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
You know, yeah, and you know it's affected your life,
your who you are today and have suffered and have
to struggle with these demons. But I you know commend
you in that you're writing about it and exposing it
to the world to see in its raw form, and
(45:43):
as such, it's going to be harder for it to
remain hidden. And my goal is to get it seen
clearly so that we're no longer fooled by a display
of five hundred thousand children who suddenly are brought across
the border and disappear.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, there's sex trafficked. I think me and people like
me need to just be louder. You know, I've hidden
for so long because, uh, it just seemed like the
natural thing to do. Look, you know, I tell you
from Nama, how you from from from me too? Yeah,
I just didn't want to look back. It's hard to
look back. But once you do, then there's a certain
(46:27):
freedom and then then you then you want to go
on and tell everybody, but nobody wants to hear it
because you know it's ugly.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, I think you know, the audience is going to build,
and we're going to continue to do these shows. We're
going to continue to go through the writing, and as
we wrap up here, I want to go back to
showing people the Silicon Satan cover of the book. It's
available on Amazon, and uh we devoted a section of
coursenation dot com. Go down further in the page you'll see,
(46:57):
uh the Silicon Valley section where is writing a new
novel that's being serialized. You've got illustrations now that Craig
is doing the various scenes, and soon there'll be animations.
And we'll also put these interviews and other interviews on
with Craig so that they're all therefore available to be viewed.
(47:18):
And I want to thank you Craig for coming on
again and commend you for coming on, thanks for having me,
and we'll do much more of this and just wrapping
it up, I want to affirm that in the end,
God always wins and God will dispel this darkness too. Amen.
There's doctor Jrome Corsi with Corsination dot Com. We've been
here with Craig Lund, who is the author of Silicon Satan,
(47:42):
a novel, and I encourage everybody to get it and
to read it and talk about it and pass it
on to others. It's doctor Drome Corsi and Coursy Nation
broadcasts podcast every weekday. We will be back next weekday
and thank you for joining us. Worst Intents introduce Internet
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Internet introduces Internet intention attract Internet star intem
Your angel.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is your own course. He and we have a
return guest with us. I'm very pleased to have with
us Craig Lund.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Again.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Craig is the author here of Silicon Satan. That's a
book we published here at post Tail Press. I'm an
acquiring editor of post Tale Press and I consider this
to be a very important book as a novel. And Craig,
thanks for joining us. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm good, Thank you having me back.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh yeah, we're gonna do much more on this now.
The whole point of Silicon Satan is to expose the
satanic nature of what goes on in Silicon Valley. And
the book is shocking, it has very explicit parts to it.
But the whole point in publishing it was that we
(00:51):
can handle the truth, and we need to know the truth.
In other words, we're seeing here now the country reacting
to the woke I think was nothing but neo Marxism
and you know, redo of cultural maoismult resulted in an anarchy.
The country's rejected all of this bizarre uh trans genderism,
(01:15):
and the country is I think, in rejecting the woke
agenda in its entirety. But the country is not get
awakened to what P did e and you know, the
all of this is about with all the six parties
and what truly goes on among the elite in Hollywood,
the elite in general. H The Silicon Valley is a
(01:38):
good demonstration of it. And Craig, you were a first
hand witness in it. You were a programmer who was
doing very well and in a Silicon valley. You want
to give us a couple of minutes about your background
and what what brought you to write this book.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, I was. I was an up and coming engineer
in Silicon Valley when back that's back when Silicon only
first started. I mean, it was a new industry. When
I first started, Uh it was. It was pretty pure
and innocent, just a bunch of nerds hanging around and
building things. And then the business people came in back
to it was about around the dot com bubbles when
(02:15):
things really started to change. And that's when I started
getting invited to parties and seeing stuff that was going on.
And at first I thought, well, this is just craziness,
and then I realized a lot of these big wigs
are doing it. A lot of the a lot of
the big guys are doing it. And then you know,
before I knew it, I was kind of doing it,
(02:36):
and I realized, Okay, I got to get out of here,
because if I stay on this path, I'm going to
get very rich, but I'm going to get locked into
something that I really don't want to be locked into.
And uh, it was difficult to get out. Actually, it
was very difficult. I couldn't have got out by myself,
but it took it took a lot of prayer and
a lot of help from yeah, from God to get
(02:57):
me out of there. But here I am so I
wrote the book. It was really hard to write it.
There's two two good things. One was it it helped
me to go back and relive and kind of refight
these old battles and get them out of my system.
I know. There's is that it's kind of the people
have read it. They're shocked at first, but then they
have a lot of good questions about Okay, well what
(03:18):
about this over here? It's like, yeah, that that too,
that's part of it. So people are waking up. I
noticed that the elite they're not They're they're responding to
being exposed, but they're not really running for cover. That's worrisome.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, they will be running for cover, I think after
a while. But I think more is going to get exposed,
and Jeffrey Epstein Moore is going to get exposed on
P Diddy. I think the you know, the whole corruption
in this, you know, the child's s like sex trade,
the pedophilia, h it, We're just at the front edge
(03:55):
of it being exposed. I mean, he's talking about the
five hundred thousand and children that that Biden brought across
the border and were really sex trafficked or were abandoned.
So that's now beginning to be looked at. And I
think we're going to find much more on that, even
with the Catholic Church and you know this Archbishop McCarrick.
(04:18):
We have done many different podcasts on it. More will
be coming out there too. But I want to first
go to the website, a Coorsination website and christ We
will help us navigate through this. The Coracination website. Now,
if you scroll down, I'm featuring two authors. Mike McCormick,
(04:40):
who has done this book on He's done a lot
of writing about Archbishop Vigano enrolled and so very close
to Archbishop Vigano. There's Mike McCormick, a younger picture of
Mike McCormick, and Mike was a he was part of it,
was a stenographer, was very close to Biden official stenographer
in the White House, and he experienced a lot of
(05:01):
the corruption of the Biden family in Ukraine and also
with the Vatican making deals that involve pedophilia and drug
trafficking the Vatican and the Biden administration were involved in
and it's also very shocking. And then scroll down a
little further and you'll see the sections devoted to Silicon,
(05:22):
Satan and Craig. Now, Craig's actually writing a second novel
and it's being serialized on the website. So he's got
here Where's Wally Part two? And if you'll scroll down
a little bit more, Chris, you can see here are
the animations, the drawings. Craig ended up being a very
(05:44):
very accomplished graphic artist, and so there's illustrations that go
with this book that show you what the different scenes are.
And we go all the way down to the bottom.
We want to see more about Craig's writing. There is
an archive, so you can click down to the very
bottom and go down to the very bottom, Chris and
see if you can get into the archive.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And by the way, I am working on I am
working on the animations everything with a group from Poland,
but they kind of build on me, so I gotta
figure that out. But I will have animations out there
seeing that sort of play out some of these scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'm looking forward to that. And this is how much
he's written in the new book. And so you can
read the new book right on here of courses. It
gets finished and we put it into print, we'll probably
start removing it from the website, but you're going to
get an advanced look at it. And I think it's
going to be a very very interesting book. I've yet
(06:38):
to get into it as deeply as I want to,
but I want to go back to Silicon Satan and
feature kind of how the what's in this book, And
it's a fascinating story when you start reading it, I
think at first, like Craig said, you're going to find
it shocking. Some of the parts of it are truly shocking,
(06:59):
and yet it's hard to put down because when your
mind gets into what's going on and involves a lot
of explicit sex, group sex, and drugs, Satan worship, baby
killing and eating. I mean, it's tough to get your
(07:22):
mind around what the Satanic practices really are all about.
But I want to feature a couple today. I want
to feature on one of the characters in it, who
is called Brenda, and tell the story here, because the
book involves a character who's really Craig named Rog and
(07:43):
a ranch in California, a horse ranch, when he's growing
up on his experiences, and one of the experiences is
with this older woman whose name is Brenda. Now we're
going to contrast how Brenda works in this story. She's
really kind of of a contemporary woman to hippie free love,
(08:05):
and she innocently seduces this young Rog, and it gets
compared to another character later on the book, who is
Way Parson, who is a Hollywood photographer from Malibu, seduces
Sloan Well. Sloane is the female counterpart to Roger in
the book. Roger and Sloan meet and have sexual experiences
(08:29):
when they're very young and end up getting married and
participating in all the sexual extravagance that became Silicon Valley.
And this is a fictionalized version. Really Craig of what
you went through. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah? It is. And it's interesting because I'm glad I
wrote the book when I did, because I've had a
couple of people accuse me of trying to copy stuff
that's going on now. It's like, but I wrote the
book a long time ago. I wrote it before all
of this. So everything you're seeing now being played out
in the news and Pew didion and such, that's not
by accident. That was really happening.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And how long have we been working on this together?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, eight years or something?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Eight years? I mean we started this a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Right, And when I first contacted you, I had all
the stories with me. It's it's not like I've been
developing them along, you know, as we went this is all.
This is the way it happened in Silicon Valley and
in Hollywood and in DC and other places. And now
I'm starting to see it happening in the podcasting world.
But we can talk about that later.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, I mean, it's coming out and it's going to
come out more. But you know, you've actually written and
thrown away this book a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, it's a hard It was a hard hard. It
was a really hard, pride. I've been through some hard projects.
This is the worst. This is the hardest thing I've
ever done in my life. Go back and.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Write this stuff, writing a book, writing a book writing.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You know what, if anybody who thinks writing is easy
hasn't really tried this serious fashion. It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, now that I'm going a second book is I
wouldn't call it easy either, but it's at least I
know what I'm doing a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, you're and you're writing is improving. I constantly. I
think people are going to I can see this being
a series of books, and I think people will get
into them and read them all. It may take it
may take a while for you to build a big readership,
but I think over time you're going to have a
following and people are going to be wanting to see that.
(10:31):
And when they get into one book, they're going to
go back and read them all, which is what people
typically do. So it may take you a while here
to get established, but it will happen. It's just a
manner of continuing to do it and continuing to persist.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And you know, well, my main goal though, isn't really
to sale books. I need. I want people to see
what's really going on, because if you read something like this,
it's going to be shocking and you're gonna you're gonna say,
no way, that's not happening. But then you're going to
start seeing it all over the place and it'll help
wake people up. You got to get through this first, people.
The hardest part is getting your head wrapped around it.
This stuff is actually going on all over the place.
(11:08):
You know, we live in a you know, an evil kingdom.
It doesn't matter how many how much wallpaper you can
put up, it's still it's still an evil kingdom.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, So when we start encountering Brenda, and tell me
about Brenda, because she had you know, Brenda was a girlfriend,
But describe her and and how you know we say
here that you know, he sees her still in bed
and she's been steadily studying the tall monkey hippie cowboy
(11:42):
as he gracefully moves around the small, incommodious but comfortable
airstream airstream travel trailer that's cram full of his horse
tack and leather products. So Louis is her boyfriend before
Rodge comes on? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah? So, so Brenda kind of represents a lot of
different women of that time where she was this free spirit.
She wasn't evil, she didn't think she was. She was
just like everything was about free love, free free You
were there doing those those those years.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I didn't participate as much as you. We were all
affected by it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, it's interesting because of the barn of the ranch.
You know, the horse business is eighty percent female, so
it attracted a lot of females out there. And our
horse unch was big, you know, we sold to Ronald
Reagan and such we trained, so we trained Tennessee walkers.
That the two most famous horses, Trigger and High Host
Silver are Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Walkers, right, the beautiful ourses.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And and the reason why people like him is because
their plantation, their their pleasure horses. They have a different gait.
If you watch someone riding a Tennessee walker, the rider
doesn't bounce up and down. He's go smooth. And they were.
They were red so that you could run around your
your plant, your your ten thousand acre plantation all day
without getting a sword.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So so so women like Brenda were always out there
and she's she's sort of an accumulation of of of
a few different gals that I ran into when I
was young, out.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
There well and and available all the time for sex.
I mean, sex was not a big deal in some senses.
It was just kind of part of the culture, part
of the what was available. But that's how certainly reading
about Brenda comes across in the book.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and her her her slatiness was encouraged. You know
that the society at the time was encouraging women like
her to kind of flaunt it the braw less and penniless.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And right and to be available right constantly.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now, looking back, I don't know how organic that whole
culture was anymore looking back, but at the time it
sure changed things, right and sexual revolution.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So when you turned thirteen, there's part of here on
page one twenty four of the book. You start turning thirteen,
and so you're having much more of an encounter here
with Brenda, and you're realizing that, you know, the conversation
(14:32):
is Brenda's asking whether you've had these sex If you say,
rog says you mean actual sex, and well we need
to remedy. That is what basically Louis is teasing. And
Louie is the boyfriend of Brenda, and he says, I
(14:53):
give you my permission to have all the sex you
want here with young Rog. He's telling Brenda, and so
she punches them harder and says, stop Louis, and he said,
I'm just teasing. You know, I didn't get my first
sex until I was fifteen, but maybe Rog needs some
sex at thirteen. So you know, that's kind of an
(15:15):
again hard to imagine in some senses that you know,
she's asking her boyfriend if she could have sex with
this thirteen year old underage and he seems to be
encouraging it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, it was very common for me, young men like me.
I'm wasn't the only young man at the rest, but
it was very very common for us to get teased
all the time. Yeah, you know, even at like ten, eleven, twelve,
you know, did you get pussy? Yeah, you know, very
very common to get pee teased about our virginity. So
it was so I mean, it wasn't it wasn't. I
(15:54):
wouldn't call it abusive, but it certainly wasn't healthy.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's kind of ubiquitous everywhere. It's all part of the culture.
I mean, you're that and the sexualization of young children
ten thirteen was not uncommon.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, I don't think it was. I don't think it
was nefariously intentional either. I don't think that, you know,
these galps are sitting around and going, hey man, we
gotta go fuck quick. I think it was just it
was just part of the culture at the time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah. I mean, and and the way you describe it
in the book is playful, but again is very suggestive.
I mean, you know that, you know, this whole idea
of the Lolita characteristic seducing a young person, and you know,
(16:55):
and Brenda's really begins to come on to Rag and
increasingly encouraging him, So it becomes almost inevitable that Brenda
and Roger're going to have sex. It almost threw all
the teasing, the sexual conversation and batter they have back
and forth. It becomes like almost assumed it's gonna happen.
(17:18):
You would you agree?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, And it got to the point where it gets
to the point where it has to happen it otherwise
you're just gonna get teased relentlessly.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
They're gonna Yeah, what was wrong with you that you
didn't want to try it? It was made available to you,
you didn't want to try it? You know, yeah, and
so then when it finally happens, you know, she starts
kissing you and then seduces you. When when you're right
about that, what's going on with the characters? What's Roger
(17:50):
experiencing is he gets seduced for the first time for sex? Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, Rogers, is you know, happy for you know, you know,
on one side, but I'm very confused on the other side.
What you know, this is kind of weird. What are
we doing? Is? I mean, it's kind of when I
look back, way way back, and you know, uh, it's
(18:17):
it's kind of overwhelming for a kid like that. It
shouldn't have happened, you know, because you know, I think back,
you know, the ranch was the perfect you know, I
could be running around a nice ranch right now if
it hadn't been for all these weirdos that that that
were out there.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, my weirdos, I mean my family, your family,
the ones you grew up with, right.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
The ones who created the ranch. Well, it's my grandfather's ranch,
and you know, it's just like any other thing. I
don't know if you've ever if you've heard the like
the Righteous Gemstones series where the father is a preacher
and he makes a lot of money and his kids
ruined everything. It's kind of the same thing. My grandfather
built a ranch, it was successful and his kids ruined it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I mean it gets to be explicit sex to
talk about what goes on and how she basically lays
back and pulls up her skirt and seduces him.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, as the reader, as a reader, if you can't
get through that, you can't you should just put the
book down.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Because, yeah, if you can't get past about page one
fifty four, probably this is not for you. But I'd
suspect that most people get to one fifty four page
one fifty four are really now wanting to learn more
of how all this goes on and what happens. But
the as shocking as this whole sexual episode of introducing
(19:34):
Roge to sex with Brenda is and how explicit it is,
I want to switch to what happens with Sloan. So
talk about this character Parsons, who is the Hollywood photography
He certainly comes from Malibu. Of course he comes on
much more of a slick operator.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, so we so the real Sloan in my life,
it was a real problem because she was she was
you know, a drop dead gorgeous little girl. Uh and
taking her taking being what there was was really problematic
because there was so many guys, especially during those times,
so many so many men were photographers, you know, so
many men wanted to make her a model. So she's
(20:16):
just constantly getting hit on by these creeps, and you know,
it comes to a point where where eventually she gives
in because she's interested in it, and it doesn't work
out at all. I mean, she's not she doesn't get
what she was promised. She just got used as all
and right the end, that was happening all the.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Time, and again the idea of you know, of course
taking naked pictures, and the whole thing was, you know,
from the photographer's point of view, was really sexualized from
the from Solan's point of view, she's young and is
not fully aware of what's going on. She's it's kind
of fun and titillating, but she's not conceptualizing it the
(20:57):
way he is.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Plus, plus, she's she's realizing for the first time her
her sexual power. Because even though even though this guy's
ultimate goal is just to get just just to you know,
have sex with her, she's in there too. She's, she's,
she's she thinks she's manipulating him at the same time.
So it's like the contrast to the Brenda Rod It's
it's two different scenarios completely. I mean, it's it's both
(21:20):
about you know, sex with with underrage kids. But on
one hand, it sort of happens innocently. I guess I
don't think Brenda was really out to, you know, screw
young young boys. But with Parson, that's what he does.
That's his game, you know, get as many as you can.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, and and and the talk as he's grooming her,
which is preparing her for sex. I mean, on page
one forty one, you've got a conversation and Parsons is
kind of saying, you know, and and Sloan is beginning
to realize what he's talking about. Said, you mean you
really want me to sit behind the mirror and watch
(22:02):
me getting dressed? And he says most definitely. He says,
what that's sick. What about in the bathroom would you
watch me take a shower? He says, especially in the
shower well length one way mirrors right next to the shower.
Oh my god, that's so nasty. Song reacts, you seriously
want to watch me take a shower, said, I watched
you swimming just now, what's the difference. Well, for one thing,
(22:23):
I'm naked when I take a shower, so you're practically
naked now, So he's the conversation is really working her
into normalizing that the sexual nature of the relationship is
just expected or it's just normal. What right?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And it's extremely manipulative. But but you look, look today,
it just happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Now, I mean a be more detailed about that. And
how do you mean, what do you what are you
thinking in terms of how it happens all the time?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Now? Well, back back then, remember you know, I had
three sisters too that were that were attractive and alluring,
and they were everybody was always getting hit on. We
were all, you know, the young as the young kids,
we were getting hit on and it was kind of strange.
But it wasn't happening to our friends. Our friends weren't
getting hit on. Maybe some of them were, but we
didn't really talk about it, whereas today it seems like
(23:18):
all children are are put into position where they're getting
hit on as sex objects. It's you know, it's and
that seems to be common children today have to there,
They have to face this while we were facing back
then and was considered uh, you know, wrong is what
(23:39):
kids go through all the time now, and we didn't
do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean back then you had the Brady Bunches
being the you know, the typical family, and you know,
even before then it was leave it to beaver. I mean,
these were very innocent children, whereas today, you know, with
the wacky left, they're they're wanting to have transgender store
hour told taught by a transgender and children's books on
(24:06):
sex from like kindergarten, first grade on and books on
sex in the school libraries today, which are ample would
in prior errors would not have been permitted, but today
are common and taught and the teachers are I mean,
there's more discussion of sex going on in the classrooms
(24:29):
today than I think ever before.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I remember my sister's getting really mad because they came
out with their dress code at the high school where
girls could no longer show. They were starting to show
their mid drifts, you know, their belly buttons, and the
school climbed down say no, you're not, you can't do
that anymore. I mean, compare that to today. I mean
they came home because we had dressed, cause they came
home upset. Because so that's what makes me wonder how
(24:52):
organic was a sexual revolution, because where it's got everybody
today it seems almost seems like it was contrived and
done on purpose.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well it was. I mean, this is the same period
of time when writers like Herbert Marcusi, who is a
Communist of the Frankfurt School, It's writing books called aeros
and Civilization, which is right in the university, saying that
liberation comes from unbridled sex. Until we have an unlimited
(25:20):
little beatle it explored and performed in real life, we're
not reaching our full potential.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Right. Plus, at least Afarians, their whole thing is sex oriented,
you know, Obsort of Crowley of everything was sex. Sex. Sex.
That's how you get that's how you get the magic.
You know this this uh this n s thirty one
and he's six gals that that sex ritually just did
in space. Everything's always about about sex with them. So
that's why that's why I look back as an old
(25:50):
man now and when I say I don't think it was,
I'm really saying is I know it wasn't organic. I
know that the sexual revolution was was was was created. Sorry,
it was great to bring us to this point today.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, I go on to
all of this, you know. So Parsons leads into the
master bedroom and the King's eye bed covered a lot
of white billowy sheets and comforters. There's a camera set
up on a tripod on the foot of the bed,
and he says, the bed and sheets represent the beach.
So I thought, we just have you pose on the
(26:26):
sheets like you're lying on your beach towel. So do
you want me to lie in the bed? He said, yeah,
I've photographed other girls this way before. It's a classy
way to show how sexy you can get without being slutty.
Give it a try. So he's getting her to get
in a position and then gets her to loosen up,
(26:46):
and he said, no, the camera's are in love with you,
and so am I. And he says, you know, they
finally suggested that she go topless. Okay, So it's it's
a grooming step by step, well getting if you accepted this, well,
then why can't you accept this? There's one step more
into the you know, the sexual experience of a you know,
(27:13):
Sloan having a sexual affair with a much older man
and she you know, paid forty five you says she
loves it. On her fourth relationship there developed into a
master slave game where Sloane suggests that Parson put on
one of the Pirate outforts outfits. Then ravage her tells
(27:34):
him she has a fantasy of being captured by cowboys
and horses who use her for their own pleasures. Pirates
close enough. So, I mean it gets into the sexualization
of children is part of the Satanic process.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Right And if you look at that process, that that
that little girl just went through, uh not every little
girl when they get into that situation is going to
go through with it. A lot I'm gonna get scared,
a lot of not aren't even get invited. And the
same thing happens. What's happening to us engineers in Silicon
Valley back then. It's just it's little by little, they're
kind of grooming you into this situation, into this into
(28:13):
this club, you know, and they test you along the
way how far will you go? How far are you
willing to go? And they reward you too, you know,
if you go, if you if you take your shirt off,
and you know, or if you go to the part
of the ritual and participate and you get a reward,
you get you get attention, you get uh maybe a promotion,
a position, you get invited to the next party, and
(28:35):
so kind of it. They're pretty good at They're pretty
good at doing what they do. They're grooming people human
beings and doing things that we know we shouldn't do
and probably don't want to do. But the rewards are
are are worth it.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, it's you know again, you make the point constantly
that you know, you can experience Silicon Valley or something
like that and and do all right, you know, make
a living, you have a reasonable life, raised children, have
a marriage that's you know, actual actually a marriage and
(29:13):
is not open to sex with others. But you're not
going to advance to the higher levels in Silicon Valley
unless you abandon that model.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Right, And you wouldn't even know it either, You wouldn't.
You would just think, well, I just wasn't good enough,
I wasn't lucky enough. Like, no, you weren't crazy enough.
That's that's the only difference. I mean, somebody, somebody, these
uber rich people are extremely crazy, and that's how they
got there. They had the person they had the right personality,
had that that crazy you know, that that type of personality.
(29:43):
I guess they were willing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They were willing and anxious to do this type of
these things and to cross these lines.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah. See, if somebody had told me in the beginning
where I was heading, I would have never left the ranch.
But I didn't know what I was getting myself. I
didn't not know what I was getting into. I knew
what I was doing. And pretty soon you get so
far that you think, oh, I can't turn back now,
And that's sort of they do that on purpose as well,
and they get you to the point where, well, how much
(30:12):
are you willing to give up? Fine? You want out, Fine,
you can give up everything. You're never going to get
back here, You're never gonna you're never going to play again.
You're you know, you're never going to get that another contract.
You know, and you got and you're so far, you're
so far into it now that it's like, how am
I ever going to get back to a simple life?
But you can, you can't. I mean, look at me,
I'm I live off grid now.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, but you also realize and writing the book, it's
clear you realize that you know what you were going
through at the ranch when you started out into sente
that are seduced by an older woman and brought into this.
It's grooming you went through prepared you to you know,
when Sloan comes around, she's not shocking any longer. It's titillating.
(31:00):
And then these sex orgy parties and drugs are just
an enhancement of what you already agreed to do.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So it's a progression pretty much. What's really interesting. The
other thing that's interesting is with my story is is
the bikers taking over their ranch. I look back now,
it's like, how did that ever happen. I'm glad it did, though,
because it kind of gave me a sense or a
view of the world where you can be crazy, but
it doesn't you don't have to be evil. So you
(31:28):
like these bikers. Everybody thinks they're evil and crazy. A
lot of them are, but most of them aren't. Most
of them are family guys. It's just something that they do.
The like. They like the security of being an outlaw biker.
It's a club to them. It's secured, it's safety, it's community,
and it's it's a hobby.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right, it's a weekend thing to do, and.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
That's a lifestyle for them. But their bikes or hobbies,
so okay.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
But again, you know, the we'll cover that. That's another complex.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Part of the book.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But the you know, the this whole grooming and you know,
because Brenda continues throughout the book, I mean, she continue
out through a good long part of the book, and
in the second book too, I mean it's like, you know,
the sex with her gets more and more deep and addictive,
(32:26):
and and she begins teaching Rag much more, coaching him,
and and the the the sexual reality that they begin
living in, you know, is not is abnormal because it's
it's an obsession with sex. It's it becomes everything becomes
(32:49):
experienced through sex, you know, whereas an normal you know,
child rearing kids aren't interested in sex until puberty. And
here's way before puberty, and they're beginning to get into
what it's about before they really understand what it's about.
But by the time they do understand what it's about,
(33:11):
then they're more deeply into it because they've already been
a cultured the behaviors and learned the behaviors, and now
they cross over into a deeper enjoyment of them, and
it begins to it begins to dominate their entire experience.
It becomes what they're thinking about all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Plus it breaks down, if it kind of breaks down
a whole taboo structure. When you're you're that young, and
you see how easy it is for the adults to
break down these taboos that you've been hearing about. It
makes it easier to break the next one and the
next one. And you know, you're still a kid, you're
still a young person, and you're already, you know, doing
things you know you're not supposed to.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Do, and and somehow intuitively you know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You know it's not right. It just doesn't. It isn't.
But yet it's alluring, and you've crossed the line and
you've decided to go into that. That's happening, right, And
so the seduction part of Silicon Valley, and then coupling
it with financial success, worldly goods accomplishment, you know, I mean,
(34:24):
we'd all get people to be billionaires on stock, which
is you know, again creating wealth out of nothing. It's
almost magical. It's conferred on you and it's conferred on
you because you've agreed to immerse into this lifestyle. And
(34:47):
so when asked to perform rituals killing babies, eating babies,
going after sex orgies in which someone is killed to
heighten the sexual pleasure of the others, watching things that
(35:07):
are just completely evil. And we're showing here a number
of the pictures of the illustrations in the book, so
you can really see how the Satanic world emerges from
a innocent reality and before you know what, you're in
the middle of the Satanic ritual that you've step by
(35:28):
step bought into. It has become your reality. It has
become now normal. And that's the I think the shocking
part of this is the progression of evil and how
it becomes captivating once you're in it, such that escaping
from it almost requires superhuman effort.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Well, it happens to a lot of people in Hollywood
and in Silicon where you're just overwhelmed with it. Yeah.
I remember I was sitting there one day and I
had a twelve million dollar portfolio and I wanted to
get out, and I kept looking, you know, at my
documents over here, and this is really difficult to and
I realized I realized looking back, it was just money
(36:08):
on paper, and they do that to you on purpose.
You think you're a millionaire, you're really not. There's nothing
I could do with that, you know. I suppose I
can cash it out or something, but you know, and
then I had this nice flat in San Francisco, and
I had a car, and I had two Harley Davidson's
in a cell boat. And it's really hard to give up,
really hard to give up. I mean a lot of
people say, well, you're just materialistic. Yeah, but it's more
(36:32):
than that, because I had power and prestige and position.
You know, I had I had friends I didn't even
know their names, and I had people, you know, flocking
around me didn't even know who they were.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, Silicon Satan is a book that I think is
important to have been written and read. And it is
not written for the purpose of titillation. It's not pornography
because it's the moral. Part of the writing is you
(37:03):
just have to, unfortunately, really explain what it's about in detail.
Otherwise it wouldn't be understood. If you didn't go through
the explicit description of what's going on, you wouldn't understand
the experience.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, I hoping. I hope think it fast tracks a
number of people in the in the wokeness, in the
wo but into waking up, and not not even just
really waking up. I see a lot of people there
they know this goes on, but they're not really looking
at You need to look at you. You need to
you need to look at it. You need to see
what's really going on around you, because once you do,
then you're you're no longer, you don't have that bubble
(37:37):
around you anymore, and then you can start seeing it
at other places, and then maybe we could start doing
something about it, because I really don't see a whole
lot being done yet.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, the awareness is yet happening. I mean, first, for instance,
I think most people don't understand the pervasiveness of you know,
of pedophilia, sex with underage children, and how it is
part of the in facts, central to this culture. Yeah,
(38:08):
and central of the culture in a way that you know,
for a child, first of all, they're separated from their
parents so that they're immediately taken away from all the
love they had in their lives. They're abandoned, treated very
roughly by their handlers, forced to have sex with older
(38:31):
you know, aged people are the same or other sex.
They don't understand, and it's often drunken and brutal. The
kids are in despair, you know, they can want to
go back and have a childhood. They've lost their childhood.
To do that to a child is almost an unimaginable crime.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, and I see, I see, I see them grooming
society into accepting all this. It's all over the place.
You know. The Brenda version of that is being pushed
out as though it's it's kind of healthy and it's
natural and there's nothing wrong with it, you know. But
the Brenda version is not really what happens. Not even
(39:16):
the Parson version mostly is what happens. But there's even
but the the version that go it comes on later
in the book, is what really happens what you were
just talking about.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, well we'll get there and and again, as there's
going to be a series of interviews, they're going to
be you know, we're going to have these interviews. I
want these interviews also archived on the website so people
can watch them and see a series of interviews that
we do because over a period of time, will have
covered much of the book and talked about much of
the book.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I mean, what's once they make pedophilia no longer illegal,
then then then we're all screwed. Well no pintent then
then then then we're I mean we're gonna and I
see that happening now that they're grooming everybody to accepting this,
and pretty soon pedophilia will be acceptable. I think it's
acceptable in some certain countries now right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Well, it it is. But again, I think the reaction
to it, in some ways, I think it was almost
give to God that we had Biden steal the election
in twenty twenty, so we got to see how horrible
these people were. And you know, you have half a
million children coming across the border that disappear and either
(40:25):
slave child's slave labor or child sex trade.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
And look, I know, people, I know, I know people
don't want to believe it, but that's that's the adrenalin
chrome industry. Most of those children end up in adrenal rome.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
We'll talk about adrena chrome.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I remember they didn't call it drena crow back then.
They called it chrome chroming. And I think I got
chrome to us because somebody put three drops of something
just straight out of the hunter Thompson all my tongue
and I was, I was, I was having fun for
three days. I was. It was like having the best cocaine,
the best of everything all at once.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
The last where does it come from?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well, I was, I don't know where they got that.
I was in You mean, how do they manufactured? They
manufactured through uh, scaring little children into I mean, you
can look all that up.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's it's just scaring the little children into producing these
hormonal reactions, right.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So, so like the whole frazzle drip thing, I don't know,
I don't know if you're if you're familiar with that
with Hillary and Huma and the frazzle drip Ruber. But
where they they actually cut the face off one of
the children was wearing it to freak them out, and
that uh morty cartoon. They did a kind of a
cartoon about it. But that they that's what goes on.
That's what they do. They they they abuse these children's
(41:46):
portraum and they need children because it works better with children,
and they harvest this adrenal crome out of their blood
and they use it as a drug. And that's what
goes on.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
That's what it's about.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
And tell people accept that, and there's a lot, there's
so much evidence of it out there to tell people
that actually accept it that's going on, and nobody's going
to do anything about it. The hardest part is getting
people to get you know, wrap your hair around this.
This is happening once. I mean, you can't explain where
these five hundred thousand children are going. You can't explain
why Share looks like she's twenty seven years old. Still,
you can't explain why the people who drop off suddenly
(42:23):
get really old because they don't get it anymore. And
knowing that, but it kind of makes sense. You know.
We write this kind of stuff in these magical potions
and our fair tales all the time. That makes you
think it's not really happening. I mean, but it is.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Well, it's the the awareness of these practices. And again,
if we get more of the p Diddy and more
of the Epstein and all these stories coming out and
being told, and right now, I think even the Justice
Department suppressing it, it's still not letting it come out.
(43:02):
Even though we're supposed to have Pam Bondi and Cash
Betel and tell all and let these you know, we
still have classified documents suppressing reality and truth about the
CIA Kennedy assassination. A lot of documents were destroyed that
will never be found now because they were destroyed. Others
are still being withheld because they were never turned over
(43:22):
by the CIA and others. They were kept hidden despite
the law demanding they be turned over the assassination's Records
Review Board in the nineteen nineties, they weren't turned over. Okay,
so the lies and this age is coming to an
end with Trump coming in and the shocking revelations we're finding.
(43:46):
But you're going to see a lot more like you say,
You get asked by people saying, well, okay, this person suicided,
did they really suicide? And you begin to explain red scarfing.
What is red scarfing?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Red scarfing is the way they used to get rid
of people and and send a message at the same time.
I don't see it so much more because I think
they got too much exposure. But it's where you the
guy will go in and uh, you know, strangle you
and then make it look like you hung yourself on
a doorknob with a red scarf. I mean, nobody can
(44:20):
hang themselves on a doorknob. You wouldn't you wouldn't actually
get up right, and then they try to use the
sexual assistiation as like for David Carrotine. But again the
setup is all wrong. So if people would start realizing
that this kind of stuff is going on, it'd be
easier for the for for them to realize that. Okay,
(44:42):
so whether the jf PY files probably are true and
all those all those conspiracies probably are true, it's only
takes one thing to kind of break down there their
their damn move or their wall of security.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well, once this is penetrated, once the evil scene, I
believe it, you can't unsee it, and I think that
people are going to repudiate it because you don't want
your children brought into this. You don't want it happening
to the ones you've created and loved.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
And that's sort of their limit because you can't. It's
hard to see something you don't want to see. It's
so awful you really don't want to look at it,
but you need to. It's one of those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
You know, yeah, and you know it's affected your life,
your who you are today and have suffered and have
to struggle with these demons. But I you know commend
you in that you're writing about it and exposing it
to the world to see in its raw form, and
(45:43):
as such, it's going to be harder for it to
remain hidden. And my goal is to get it seen
clearly so that we're no longer fooled by a display
of five hundred thousand children who suddenly are brought across
the border and disappear.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, there's sex trafficked. I think me and people like
me need to just be louder. You know, I've hidden
for so long because, uh, it just seemed like the
natural thing to do. Look, you know, I tell you
from Nama, how you from from from me too? Yeah,
I just didn't want to look back. It's hard to
look back. But once you do, then there's a certain
(46:27):
freedom and then then you then you want to go
on and tell everybody, but nobody wants to hear it
because you know it's ugly.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, I think you know, the audience is going to build,
and we're going to continue to do these shows. We're
going to continue to go through the writing, and as
we wrap up here, I want to go back to
showing people the Silicon Satan cover of the book. It's
available on Amazon, and uh we devoted a section of
coursenation dot com. Go down further in the page you'll see,
(46:57):
uh the Silicon Valley section where is writing a new
novel that's being serialized. You've got illustrations now that Craig
is doing the various scenes, and soon there'll be animations.
And we'll also put these interviews and other interviews on
with Craig so that they're all therefore available to be viewed.
(47:18):
And I want to thank you Craig for coming on
again and commend you for coming on, thanks for having me,
and we'll do much more of this and just wrapping
it up, I want to affirm that in the end,
God always wins and God will dispel this darkness too. Amen.
There's doctor Jrome Corsi with Corsination dot Com. We've been
here with Craig Lund, who is the author of Silicon Satan,
(47:42):
a novel, and I encourage everybody to get it and
to read it and talk about it and pass it
on to others. It's doctor Drome Corsi and Coursy Nation
broadcasts podcast every weekday. We will be back next weekday
and thank you for joining us. Worst Intents introduce Internet
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