The Deep State Meets the Deep Church: The Alliance That Changed Everything

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
More Angelus.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Of course, we have a special interview today with Mike McCormick,
and this we've interviewed Mike before. Mike.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome, Hey, thanks Doc. Course you good to see again.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
And because if you'll show Mike's book for a minute.
Mike has written a book which is the Case to
Impeach and imprison Joe Biden. Now that came out before
the election, has done very well. It is one that
has been followed very closely and does lay out the
case for the Biden family corruption. We'll get into that

(00:36):
in a minute. We're going to discuss a new book
today that Mike has gotten out in pressed. Mike, what's
the name of that book?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
The name is an almost insurmountable evil, how the Obama
deep state defiled the Catholic Church and executed the Wuhan plandemic.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, I think this is going to be a really
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substact dot com. Okay, Mike, let's get into this first
war with the Catholic Church. We've been doing quite a
bit of work with Archbishop Viganell and he wrote a
letter to Catholics in America which said basically that it
was going to be a sin to vote for Kamala Harris.
The Kamala Harris was lined with the forces that are

(03:09):
to the deep Church right, which with the Bargolio. His
Pope Prince is wanting to take the Catholic Church in
an LGBT direction, with all of these synods, bishops, with
meetings with bishops that are going to say, let's talk
with these marginalized minorities. Well, that means give the LGBT

(03:30):
a place in the Catholic Church, and of course we're
opposed to that. There's the it's on our website and
it's there's the message from Archbishop Bigano to Catholics in America,
and I think it really did influence the Catholic vote
as much as ten percent of the Catholic vote to
Trump that might not otherwise have voted for Trump. So

(03:52):
it was a very influential message. Now, Mike, why don't
you start giving us some of the background here of
the Catholic Church in involvement with the Deep Church, and
how the Deep State interacted with the Deep Church, and
what was a collusion between the Biden family corruption and
the Catholic Church. So why don't you just plunge in?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, So that would be the first part of the
book is the defilement of the Catholic Church, and it
comes through Cardinal Theodore mcarrick. He was thus central figure
in this whole operation. McCarrick started off with a profile
that looks like from in the sixties. He went to

(04:36):
Catholic University, He came out of seminary, He went to
Catholic University, studied as an undergraduate, got a doctorate in sociology,
and came out of there and became a fundraiser. But
he was also very interested in having sex with men,
and at the time that was probably something that the
intelligence agencies were looking for, that aspect of using shame

(05:01):
somebody's shameful sexual activities to blackmail them into activities. So
he winds up going through his priesthood becoming quite a
successful fundraiser, getting raised up to be a bishop, and
then allegations start appearing about his use as a bishop,

(05:25):
putting himself in a position to force young seminarians to
have to share the bed with him in a beach
house in New Jersey. There's a lot of accusations against him.
They all just sort of get funneled up through the
Catholic hierarchy and then they stop at regional bishops. So
he keeps moving up the ladder until the State Department

(05:47):
gets a hold of him in the nineties and they
start using using him as a global ambassador for religious freedom.
They send it, but they send him to sensitive areas
like China, like Irs. And this is a guy who
came out of the seminary, Went's Catholic University, and all

(06:07):
of a sudden he's tied right in the heart of
DC diplomatic diplomacy, and he is the DC voice for
the Vatican into and out of the Vatican. By two thousand,
I'm sorry, yeah, by two thousand, the year two thousand,
he gets named as the Archbishop of Washington, and then

(06:31):
in two thousand and one he gets named as the
cardinal by Pope John Paul. So he's Cardinal Mcerrick. He's
renowned in Washington. In two thousand and one, the Bush
administration names him as the emissary between the Vatican and
their trusted emissary between the Vatican and China. So he's
being put into the globalist the role of representing globalist

(06:54):
interests for the Vatican. And he's got this background he's
keeping in secret. In the early two thousands, uh, there's
the allegations about this terrible predatory sexual activities by the
clergy in the Catholic clergy come out and mcerrick is

(07:15):
in charge of sort of he's on the he's on
the board that's overseeing it. So this is this is
a wolf in sheep's clothing trying to keep uh, you know,
sort of keep the message. You know, he's the bad guy,
who's who's at the criminal, who's you know, sort of
in the police force, policing the for the innocence, and

(07:36):
people don't understand it. So then he becomes very a
favorite of the Obama administration through a guy named Dennis McDonough,
Dennis McDonough's a Catholic. He had two brothers in the priesthood.
Both took Holy orders. One is still in the priesthood.
When resigned, McDonough in two thousand and eight, before before

(08:00):
Obama had even come into the White House, had reached
out to other operatives and said, we want to get
the president elect in cahoots with the Pope Benedict, and
so they started this relationship, but it was a very

(08:22):
focused relationship to try to drive mcarrick into a position
where he can. He and McDonough are our meeting regularly
to do what Obama wants. So McDonough moves from being
an assistant in the National Security Council, he was assistant

(08:44):
to the National Security Advisor. He moves up to be
the White House Chief of Staff. Throughout this time, there
are meetings upon meetings upon meetings in the White House
between McDonough, specifically Dennis McDonough and McCarrick. McCarrick would go
in and meet with him, and then he would go
out in while he was doing these international trips, go

(09:04):
to China, to go to Iraq, so he was all
over the place and doing this and covering for the
predatory pre scandal that was sort of bubbling around.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, now let's get a couple of things in terms
of more background. Now in this you are a stenographer
in the White House, and why don't you explain that
background and what it gave you access to being able
to observe.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I was a starger in the background. I started
there in two thousand and two, so I heard about
McCarrick all the time. He was a favorite of the
you know. And my job was as a Press office
stenographer snargifer of the White House Press Office. Whenever the
President or the Vice President had a meeting or an interview,
or a prayer breakfast or a Saint Patrick's Day event,

(09:55):
we did a transcript of it. Well, they always acknowledged
Cardinal mcairc so arlane. Mccarrott was a central figure to
DC politicians. He was well liked by the Bush administration.
He was well liked by both sides, but he was
very particular to the Democrats. Biden was a big fan
of his lay. He center Patrick Lay, he was a
big fan of his. Nancy Pelosi's a Catholic. She was

(10:18):
with him a lot. But McCarrick was also very popular
with the on the Saint Patrick's Day, John Bonner, John
Bayner was had McCarrick speak at Saint Patrick's state events
in Capitol Hill all the time, so he was a
central figure and the media knew this too. So he
was well known by the media and well known by
the politicians, and when Obama came in, they just moved

(10:40):
with carrick. He I think his ideology as a gay pert,
as a gay priest, hidden aligned with the sort of
liberal force that Obama was talking about trying to liberalize,
you know, attitudes towards gay people at that time in America.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So give us a little bit more background on McDonough.
Who is McDonough.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So McDonough came out of Minnesota, one of eleven kids
of an Irish couple. They immigrated from Ireland. They had
a large family too, went to the priesthood, he studied
at Georgetown and then he started working for Democrats in
Capitol Hill and eventually wound up I think he wound
up working with Senator Obama and then worked on his campaign.

(11:29):
Did a great job in the campaign. The campaign reached
out to Catholics and McDonough was the guy who did that,
and so once he got into the White House. He
was their contact with McCarrick to get through into the Vatican.
So there's some very suspicious meetings between McDonagh, McCarrick and

(11:51):
Burgolio in twenty eleven twenty twelve in the lead up
to the resign nation of Pope Benedict. And so it's
very clear, and I write about this in the book.
It's very clear that they are directing macarrick to go

(12:13):
down to Argentina and talk to Brigolio. Now there's a
big report that was put out on mcarrick after he
was discovered to be this pedophile. That was in twenty eighteen.
He resigned from the priesthood, from the laity, he was delayicized,
and then he resigned from his cardinal duties. By twenty nineteen,

(12:34):
he was completely done in the church. He hasn't been excommunicated.
He's now living sort of anonymously and avoiding the press,
and he's living sort of under the church's ruth but
with no official connection.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
He was never excommunicated by the Pope, right.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
He's never been excommunicated, and he's he's never confessed to
the amount of evidence it's against him.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Came out. It is you know, there's no allegations about
mcdonough' being gay, is there. I mean, that's not been
an issue.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
No, he's got a family and kids. But what he
did was he was the guy who was putting the
They Basically, in my opinion, I think McCarrick was a
deep state operative. I think he was an intelligence community operative.
And it was when Obama came in that they You know,

(13:32):
he was sort of energized. He was taped tabbed to
do his duty, and his duty was a going into
the after all these years, and as a fundraiser, what
he would do is he would raise funds and then
distribute them to cardinals and bishops. Well, these are the
guys that picked the pope. So in twenty thirteen, when
it was time to pick the pope, McCarrick was ready

(13:55):
to go, as instructed by Obama's deep state, into the
process that picks the pope. He had met with Brigoglio.
He had met with Burgolio officially in twenty eleven in Argentina,
and he went back to Argentina twice in the lead
up to this time period. He went to Argentina in

(14:18):
October of twenty twelve and then December of twenty twelve,
and the Vatican report on mcarrick doesn't stipulate whether or
not he met with Burgolio there. No one's ever asked
him that. The Vatican sort of said, yeah, he went there,
they didn't follow up with the information did he talk
to Bergolio there? So the next step becomes this resignation

(14:39):
by Pope Benedict in Rome. Mcarrick is there. He starts
talking up Brigoglio officially in media, pretty significant media, and
then he talks behind the scenes to a lot of cardinals,
and the next thing you know, there's an election in
Bergolio's the elected one, and then mccarritt comes back. Almost

(15:03):
just a month after Bregolio gets elected, mccartt comes back
and has more meetings with McDonough, and shortly thereafter he
starts traveling to China on behalf of both the Vatican
and the White House. Burgoglio at this point in time,
after being elected, Pope sends a secret letter to Jijiping

(15:26):
in China on aligning you know, sort of connecting the
Catholic Church with the Chinese government in a new way,
and Gigi Ping sends it back a letter. This is
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Are the just to kind of the in the OSSNGE
releases of documents from the Podesta files, which was occurred
in twenty sixteen. Those were the files that were supposedly
stolen by the Russians from the from the Democratic National
Committee files Email five else, Oh there's I don't believe

(16:02):
they were stolen by the Russians. I think it was
an inside job within the DNC and I've always been
suspicious of seth Rich. Now the there are at least
one of those emails. It says that the of selection
and the insertion of Bergoglio to be Pope was a

(16:24):
CIA operation and this was a plan by the deep
state to support the Deep Church. In other words, there's
a group in since Vatican Two. This is what Archbishop
Bigano has been writing about for years and Mcerrick is
at the center of it. That the you know, the
connection between the intelligence community and uh Bergolio in Argentina

(16:50):
and then Brigolio surfacing in Rome to become pope with
Pope Benedict the sixteenth resigning as Pope, which is you know,
a was rather spectacular event because popes do not resign.
They stay in the position typically and traditionally until they die, right, okay.
And so this was in a sense almost like a coupdeta.

(17:13):
And when you realize that Pope Benedict had been writing
in a fairly conservative way, in traditional way of Catholic theology,
but the Sinsmatican two which was opened up under Pope
John Paul, John Paul and nineteen sixty two, the whole

(17:34):
idea was that the church was going to modernize by
admitting progressives, okay, and that was opening the door to
the ending of the Latin Mass, the redesign of a
lot of Catholic liturgy, and and even a redefining of
the Catholic theology in saying that we have to now

(17:57):
take all this openness to the to the to the
followers of the Catholic Church, who would define the policies
of the Catholic Church and define the you know, the
doctrines of the Catholic Church, whereas before the Catholic Church
had always been top down and the you know, the

(18:18):
rules were viewed as given by Jesus Christ for salvation.
And these were not subjective moral standards. These were hard
and fast moral rules by which human beings needed to live,
which was the doctrine of the Church, and one of
those doctrines was the marriage is a sacrament between men
and women, a man and a woman to procreate children

(18:41):
and then have share the responsibility of raising those children
with a moral education. Whereas you come in with the
lgbt Q plus agenda, and that's saying that we've got
to listen to all these marginalized minorities. We have to
keep redefining Catholic theology in terms of what the what
the followers with the parishioners want, and therefore you start

(19:03):
making a seat at the table for the LGBQ community,
Satan religion, we need to honor Satan as a religion
or do we need to include all of these different
sexual perversions and activities and say they're equally qualified to
be sanctified by God as his marriage between a man
and a woman and that's considered that. I mean, I

(19:25):
can I think Archbishop Igano, by opposing this Vatican too
and this LGBT community, this Sonadol movement and vocally opposing
it led to his excommunication and he's still vocally opposing it.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
And he was a guy. So Bigano was a guy
early on in the early two thousands who put the
finger on the Carrit's activity. Yes, he did, and he
opposed Mcarrot directly and tried to get people to stop,
you know, try to get him to sort of to
dial back his access to young younger piece, younger priests

(20:03):
and things like that. Yeah, the jumped around it.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I want to show you this book here which just
we just published this, which is the Archbishop of Igano,
and it's jaccuse. It's his shedding light on his excommunication
and jaccues and French means I accuse. So he's accusing
Bergoglio of being the heretic. And I wrote, I wrote
the preface the forward to this. It's a short book,

(20:29):
but it's extremely powerful and it talks about, you know,
the Catholic Church having itself committed the heresy by rejecting
the rejecting the traditional doctrines of the Church. And he says,
how can it be possible? This is in the introduction
about Archbishop Aganalo wrote, how can it be possible that

(20:50):
an esteem prele, an archbishop, an apostolic nuncio who has
faithfully served the church and the Roman pontiff throughout his
life is put on trial, condemned, executed for having done
and said what popes and bishops have considered their grave
duty for centuries. Since when has defending Catholic tradition, the
priesthood and the mass become a canonical crime deserving the

(21:13):
accusation of accusation of schism. Okay, so he Occupissippigonald lays
it really out. He said, I've witnessed a true revolution
from within the institutional structures of the Church. First of
my pastoral ministry as a simple priest, that as a
member of the Diplomatic Corps the Holy See, and the
Secretary to State, as permanent Observer to the Council of Europe,

(21:37):
as Apostolic Nuncio to Nigeria, as a delegate for the
Pontifical representations of the Secretary of State, that the Secretary
General of the Governorate of Vatican City State, and finally
as a Nuncio of the United States. By the very
admission of those who knew me and even attested in
the text of the degree of my excommunication, my rectitude

(21:59):
and honesty, I've always been appreciated and have been the
main reason why I have received positions a great responsibility,
but this time I represented an element of disturbance due
to my unavailability for compromise and power games. The corruption,
the phenomenon of corruption immortality that I have tried to
fight against have stirred up bitter enemies against me, so

(22:20):
much so that they have generated actual plots aimed at
slandering me, hindering my work, and making me get transferred. Okay,
so what he's saying is my own personal journey has
not been an easy one, having experienced Vatican to a
young seminarian and then its quote reforms as an official
Roman curia Kuria. But the moment I understood the causal

(22:43):
relationship between the councilar revolution and the apostasy now widespread
in the ecclesiastical body, everything became clear and it was
impossible for me not to raise my voice as a
successor of the apostles. And so he goes strongly against

(23:03):
Bergolio and the opening up of the church to this
woke agenda, and he accuses that Bargolio was the one
who is the heretic. Now, also, I'm going to reach
back on my bookshelf for a minute and pull out

(23:27):
two books number one. This is a book that was
compiled a few years ago, Voice in the Wilderness of
Archbishop Vigano's writings, and then it he writes it very hard.
It was published, It was published by let's see by
who published this it was, let's see the name of

(23:54):
the press. Take me a second to find it. I
want to make a couple of points about this that
are very important. I'm not sure if I can find
it real quickly or the Angelical Press. Angelical Press. And
the book discusses mcarrick at great length, okay, and it
lays out well McCarrick did with the seminarians, as you say,

(24:17):
this was a time when Catholic seminary seminaries be pre
studying for the priesthood. They became homosexual institutions. And the
church itself, with all of the deep church perversion of
the priests being homosexual and even with young boys sleeping

(24:41):
with the older boys and causing which now has caused
the Catholic Church a tremendous scandal. And you know, the
Archbishop Agano is extremely critical of Cardinal McCarrick in this
book and right ruth about him.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
McCarrick is an absolutely evil character. He may be the
most evil of the last several hundred years in the Church.
What he's done has taken the church right to the
edge of you know what they'd done by installing Brogoglio
as the pope, they opened the door to put the

(25:23):
Capital Church in collusion with this entire cartel aligned human trafficking,
drug trafficking movement that was promoted through policies in the
Obama Biden White House. Joe Biden was his pet project

(25:44):
from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen was called the Alliance
Were Prosperity. They gave one and a half billion dollars
to governments of three small Central American countries, Honduras, El
Salvador and Guatemala. Well, the people in Honduras were smuggling
cocaine to the United States by the ton and the

(26:05):
United States government knew it, and Joe Biden and Barack
Obama knew it, but they wanted the cartels on their
side so they could bring in They wanted lait to
liberalize immigration. They wanted immigration reform, and what they wanted
the Catholic Church to do was to I call it
morality laundering. They used Pope Francis for morality laundering. He

(26:30):
came out and basically told the world, we should have
liberalized refugee policies in America in Western Europe, and that's
what they did. And this is the globalist goal. We're
going to bring all the poor people to the wealthy,
wealthy people and fill the middle class with you know,

(26:50):
sort of the lower class people from other countries, and
the elites will be okay. Everybody else is going to suffer.
That's what this past election was all about. This election
was an eruption about what Donald Trump did in twenty
sixteen when he said We're going to build a wall,
and people really started getting that. And I was in
that White House in twenty sixteen when he said We're

(27:12):
gonna build a wall. I didn't really focus that much
on the wall part of it. What I focused on
Donald Trump's power was he went to places that no
other presidential candidate had gone to. And I'd worked for
two previous presidential candidates as they got re elected in
two thousand and four Bush twenty twelve Obama, and they
went all over the place. Trump went to places they

(27:33):
never went. He went to the people who needed to
hear from him, and he built his reputation and his
MAGA movement on the fact that he was speaking for
the people and what the people wanted. Then in twenty sixteen,
they wanted a sensible immigration policy and it wasn't happening,

(27:54):
and so they elected Trump. The deep state came in
and tried to undermine Trump. Brgolio, Pope Francis tried to
undermine Trump as he was getting elected in twenty sixteen,
Brigolia went out and did events basically countering on behalf
of Obama, countering the Trump anti immigration message, and that

(28:14):
became even worse as time went on. By twenty twenty,
To take Trump out, they had to put together the plandemic,
the Wuhan plandemic, and to do that they used Burgolio
the Catholic Church. They shut down the Catholic Church during
this fake pandemic, and Brigolia was the guy who did it.

(28:36):
In March of twenty twenty, there was just as Joe
Biden turned the corner in his re election campaign, all
of a sudden, he becomes the only guy rein reelected.
The Democrats are sending all these mail in ballot legal
changes through the local legislatures, and all of a sudden,
the election of twenty twenty became a huge rigged election.

(28:58):
There's fifteen million ballots that were cast for Joe Biden
in twenty twenty that no one can find. Where did
they have? They were cast for Joe Biden? Why were
they cast for Kamala Harrison four years later? Why didn't
where did those Democrats go? Those fifteen million Democrats? People
are starting to ask.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, that was the we shut down the mail in
ballots fraud with God's five Stones dot com and finding
the algorithms in the State Board of Election databases. Also, Mike,
and it was in jail, I guess it was in July.
I wrote an article and published an American Thinker which
was discussing your book and the fact that you were

(29:42):
witnessed to this mc scheme by McCarrick to divert US
taxpayer funds and Catholic Charities money into this cocaine smuggling
and child sex trafficking operation that was centered in Honduras,
and you had nineteen two thousand and four fourteen, the
Obama administration launched this Alliance for Prosperity, and it opened

(30:06):
up this flood of immigration from Central America's Northern Triangle
countries of Guatemala, Honduras, at El Salvador Great in twenty fourteen,
Biden led the initiative to have Congress approved seven hundred
and fifty million dollars for the Alliance for Prosperity in
twenty sixteen. Okay, So then this was all brokered by

(30:29):
Dennis mcconnaugh right, Okay, And one of that you pointed
out that the logs and the visit visitor logs document
a visit by mcconough two mcconnaugh mccharacter McDonald. June twenty fourteen,
the same month that vox dot com reported quote, the
United States government and the American public were startled by

(30:51):
an influx of children traveling along from Central America to
the Rio Grand Valley in the US the spring and
summer twenty fourteen, the number of children reached to crisis point.
Box also noted that during the fiscal year of two
thousand and fourteen, unaccompanied children were apprehended in the US
Mexico borders, with a seventy seven percent increase over the

(31:14):
previous year. Correct. Okay, Now two more points. On July
twenty fifth, twenty fourteen, Obama held a meeting in the
White House with President Molina of Guatemala, President Karen of
l Salvador, and President Hernandez of Honduras. His remarks to
the press, Obama noted that he was there to discuss

(31:37):
the rise of unaccompanied children traveling from Central America to
the US border. Okay, and Biden was photographed with Hernandez
shaking hands. Subsequent to that photograph, McCarrick returned to the
White House several times, according to the White House Visitor logs.
Okay and in twenty and ten, the National Catholic Reporter

(31:59):
listed McCarrick as a member of Obama's Spiritual Cabinet. Now
in twenty fourteen and fifteen, McCarrick had repeated meetings in
the Vatican with Pope Francis and numerous Catholic charities active
in Honduras country, where approximately thirty four percent of the
population was Catholic. Movie Sound of Freedom featured the child

(32:20):
sex trafficking in Honduras, country that the US Embassy recognizes
is quote a destination for women and girls from neighboring
countries subject to sex trafficking. Texas Public Radio on Mate one,
twenty fifteen, our Cardinal Oscar al Rodriguez Mara Diega of

(32:41):
the Archdiocese of San Antonio acknowledged Pope France's interest in
Honduras and in the Alliance for Prosperity. Now the complicity
here of all these people, including in twenty twenty one
an investigation by the arch diship the Archdiocese of Saint Paul,
which included that Dennis McDonough's done his brother brother Kevin McDonough,

(33:04):
as the top official of the archdiocese quote had not
always demonstrated sufficiently sound judgment and handling, allegations of ministerial
misconduct are attending to his duties to rend harm and
create safer environments. Although he was not accused of abusing children.
McDonough was demoted from the archdiocese to work as a

(33:26):
pastor at the Incarnation Church Catholic Church in Minneapolis. Now again,
the themes that are common in here are that you
are utilizing the southern border wide open both for drug
trafficking and for the child sex slavery and sex slavery

(33:48):
in general, and also human slavery in general, where people
end up working in basically slave conditions in one of
these countries. Now the CIA. I caught the CIA money
laundering with HSBC Bank in twenty eleven and support the
Mexican drug cartels. And right now I'm maintaining that TD

(34:11):
Bank just got fying three billion dollars. And the CIA
is very deeply involved in keeping the border open, running
the drug cartels and also running the sex slavery and
making billions of dollars on it. At the Catholic Church also
makes billions of dollars on providing services for these immigrants. Yes,

(34:33):
and that the center of all this is not only
McDonough but McCarrick.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
McCarrick was very closely involved with the US Conference of
Catholic Bishops. They're the ones that get all the money
from the Health and Human Services Department Health and Human
Services to support refugee resettlement, hundreds of millions of dollars.
And they also you know, when the when the pandemic

(35:01):
relief funds came out in twenty twenty, the Catholic Church
got three and a half billion dollars. And Trump talked
about this at the Al Smith dinner. He talked about
how he gave the Catholic Church a bunch of money
because they needed it. The cardinal called him. He said,
you know, we've got our schools. We need money. So
what they did was they gave they had a restriction

(35:22):
on organizations that had that couldn't get relief if they
had more than fifty people on it. They lifted that
restriction for the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church went
up with three and a half billion dollars. One cardinal
from Washington, a retired cardinal, Cardinal World who replaced McCarrick
and was forced to resign because he didn't he kind

(35:43):
of covered up for McCarrick. He got two million dollars
just for himself in relief funds. So the Catholic Church
made a lot of money through these government affiliations with
the Obama Biden people and also into the Trump administration.
Trump's White House Chief of Staff was John was General

(36:04):
John Kelly from twenty seventeen through twenty eighteen. Late twenty
eighteen year and a half, John Kelly was deeply in
collusion with the Hondurant government that was smuggling drugs in
the United States, cocaine by the ton. He was a
close friend of an associate with warn Orlando Hernandez, then

(36:24):
the President who's now arrested and imprisoned for smuggling drugs
alongside his brother. So this deep state goes from the
Pentagon into the intelligence community, it goes into the Vatican,
and it is collusion around drug smuggling, child sex trafficking,

(36:48):
human trafficking, and it's the work of the devil. And
this is what Pope Francis has allowed the Catholic Church
to fall into. He's aligned them with the work of
the devil. And that's what our Archbishop Bigano is standing
up for. He's saying, stop this. You're you're you're the
wolf who's leading his flocked disaster. He's he's called on

(37:11):
McCarrick to confess publicly confess. I in my book call
on McCarrick, not mcarrick, I call him McDonough to confess.
McCarrick has been deemed unable to stand trial because he's
old and he can't really focus his thoughts, so he's
beyond he's non compassmentis So that's where McCarrick is legally.

(37:35):
But Dennis McDonough, if he gets and President Trump's come out,
he says, I want to do a truth commission about
what's going on in the intelligence communities. If this gets
looked at by this Truth Commission, this will take out
a huge swath of the worst aspects of our deep state,

(37:56):
the deep States that colludes with drug dealers and cartels
and human traffickers. And it turns the Catholic Church and
is you know, a force for evil. This is beyond
description all. It's an almost insturmountable evil. And it's come
to a stop because we elected Donald Trump, and that

(38:20):
election is going to change the course of history.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, the first of all, the you can't run a
drug cartel or child an international child sex operation without money,
and you have to have a bank to do this,
because you can't be driving around a semi truck full
of one hundred dollars bills to stop at a taco
stand and get your lunch by pulling out a few

(38:43):
hundred dollars bills from the back of the semi truck.
And so therefore you got to get the money in
the bank. The money is monitored. Every wire transfer in
the United States and probably worldwide is monitored by the
intelligence agencies, the CIA, the NSA, and also the Treasury.
So this crime was known. In fact, it had to

(39:04):
have been known that the CIA was participating, not running it.
Borders not opened by accident. You know, the border could
be closed if we determined to close it. Donald Trump
has said they closed the border, and we should have
immigration that's robust, but we have to have vetting of
the people who are coming in here to know why
they who they are and why they're coming here. And

(39:26):
we don't want to then inundate our cities with another
Marxist objective, which is to turn them blue by changing
the demographics. I think it was a great surprise to
the Democrats that a lot of the Hispanics in the
United States voted for Trump. Yeah, and our Catholic and
would be appalled to know that what the church has become.

(39:48):
The Catholic Church has become corrupt, homosexual of aiding and pedophilia,
aiding especially with young boys, sex with the priests, sex
in general, and this whole sexual agenda has been the

(40:08):
a prime mover to corrupt the entire organization of the church.
It's also, I think now pretty clear that Barack Obama
himself is gay and has been. I think it's more
of an open secret now. And when I was talking
about this, my Royal abomination in two thousand and eight,
people weren't ready to believe it, but we had Larry

(40:31):
Sinclair with testimony of his homosexual encounter with Obama, and
that was squelched by the intelligence community. So now we've
got these powerful leaders who are serving the interests of Satan,
and the money that they have available through the public
treasury is enormous and the Catholic Church has benefited handsomely
from this money. But you're not going to get through

(40:53):
the seminaries right now unless you become part of the
homosexual agenda and a priest coming in and sleeping in
your bed, what are you going to do? And then
if you don't go along with it, you know you
get The second book I want to show you is
this book on the Sonadol process. It's another very very
good book. It's short, omput it and is written by

(41:16):
Jose Antonio Eureta. You are et A and Julio Laredo.
D is I z cue is qa okay, And it's
the Sindoro process is a Pandora's box. And what they
point out in here is that the whole idea is
the bishops are saying, we've got to go out and

(41:36):
talk with the clergy and with the with the laity,
the prishioners. If they are going with an LGBT agenda,
we needed to do that. In other words, they're making
the official doctor and the Catholic Church change wherever the
people changed to with the people's morals, that's where the
church has to go. Okay, and so therefore it isn't

(41:59):
in the it's fixed doctrine. It is in Jesus Christ's
message of salvation. This is a message of LGBT. Aren't
these people?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Why?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Why don't we want to prevent these people from loving
each other? And Obama and Pope Francis had been on
every agenda of the left. That's a lie, not only
that LGBT is perfectly acceptable, but that we should have
climate change and quit using hydrocarbon fuels because they emit
carbon dioxide, which can somehow poisonous chemical even though it's

(42:30):
plant food. Every possible misconception and lie of Satan, these
two Obama and Pope Francis Brigolio have been put in
place to advance.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, I mean, I would say that Catholics around the
world have to understand the Obama administration. Barack Obama Joe Biden,
Dennis McDonald those are the three primary people once mcdonoughy
came White House Chief of Staff. In their daily briefing,

(43:05):
they use the Catholic Church as a tool for their
foreign policy. They use it, and that's not what the
Church is for. And Pope Francis allowed that. So that
Catholics around the world have to understand they have to
demand the separation of church and state as it should
be and not have church be a tool for foreign

(43:26):
policy in the Middle East, in legalized resettlement of immigration
and in China. And the other thing is and this
is just a personal aside. I don't have a problem
with gay people. I don't have a There was a
gay guy who was instrumental in getting Trump elected in

(43:49):
Pennsylvania named Scott Presler. So I don't have a problem
with gay people. I don't have a problem with the
gay community. And there are gay people who are religious.
That's between in my opinion, them and their God. So
you know, this is a really tricky time for the
church to go forward into this and people are more

(44:12):
accepting of the gay lifestyle now than they were when
Theodore mccrick was in the seminary in nineteen sixty, So
there is something coming on that.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
And Chris, if you'll put up the book I wrote
on the truth about Neo Marxism, cultural Maoism and anarchy
and this is exposing woll insanity and age of disinformation.
And Mike, i'd encourage you to read this book because
it shows how the ideology was purposely morphed into a
sexual revolution which was aimed at undermining Christ, Christianity, God

(44:49):
and creating anarchy, which is what they have done. Now
I'm going to tie this to communists China in a minute,
but my point I'm going to make is that the
Catholic Church has become in a sense, this is what
Poblio the thirteenth was worried about, that Satan is entered
of the Catholic Church and is now ruling the Catholic Church.

(45:11):
And so therefore, in terms of people being gay or lesbian,
there's always been a small percentage about all populations that
are gay or lesbian or have sexual what I consider
to be perversions. Okay, but the point is the demand
now is that we celebrate these perversions, that we not
only accept them, but we bless them, that we allow

(45:33):
them legitimacy, and so therefore you know the subjective nature
of this postmodernism, which says, you know, there is no
absolute truth, there are no absolute values, there are no
real rules. So someone can say, well, my identity, my
sexual identity, is not my sex organs, it's my gender,

(45:55):
which belongs to a camel who lives four thousand years
ago and was a transsexual camel before there was even civilization. Okay,
now that that's fundamentally schizophrenic. That's the idea of a
lunatic that needs psychiatric care. Okay, because but all that
idea has got to be celebrated and made to be

(46:16):
you can't speak against it, as if you do, you're
not politically correct, and you have to be censored and negated.
So these ideas are very They start from the public
relations manipulation. They began in the sixties with a gay
movement saying, why don't you let these these two little
men just love each other, these two little fuzzy bears.
Why can't it's okay if they love each other, isn't it. Well,

(46:39):
all the time, they don't talk about what the sexual
practices are. They don't show you gay parades, they don't
show you with whips and chains and beating each other.
They don't show you the sado masochism. They don't show
you the So then we if all these perversions are acceptable,
the next why don't we have sex with the dead?
You know that's what that's acceptable too. Well, how about

(47:00):
sex snuff sex where you kill people. Well, if that's
just my proclivity, you can say, why would you not
allow me to do this? Okay? So the perversion here,
the language perversion, and the fundamental which Archibisial Bighano is saying.
He's making a very fundamental moral statement. He's saying the

(47:20):
Catholic Church has gone astray. The Catholic Church now as
an institution, is itself committing an apostasy. It is preaching
against what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is. Jesus Christ
does not go out and you know, celebrate sexual perversion.
He's here on earth to say, here are the rules.

(47:42):
Then there are consequences to not following God's rules on earth,
and they're not arbitrary rules. And the Catholic Church has
been doctrinally motivated for centuries until these people began to
bring in their Marxism and begin to bring in their progressivism.
And now the Sonadyl movement has us talking to the

(48:05):
you know, the marginalized minorities, which means bringing in room
for the lgbt And well, I think, you know, church,
once the church I believe in Beganda was saying to
it has become an anti church. And and that's the
fundamental issue here where the anti church is then inclined

(48:28):
to do the work of Satan, which means, as are
the intelligence agencies, and you have the intelligence agencies running
the world. And at Truman Show, we think we're voting,
but we're not.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
And then well, so we voted this time. And you know,
I think what happened with this election, thankfully it was
an almost insurmountable evil. We surmounted the evil with the election.
Thank you for doing the work on the on the
logarithms and the algorithms. What they did was the Democratic
already went too far. The Obama Biden Democrats went too

(49:03):
far with exactly what you're saying. They coddled the lgbt Q.
They made them mainstream and the and the majority of
Americans are like, we don't want this, and they didn't
want that. It wasn't just Catholics. It's just any Americans.
They just don't want it. They don't want people dancing
around and you.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Know, printing naked in the streets, you know, drag.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Queen shows to try to get uh you know, as
as recruiting movies for the for the military. They don't
want that. A little went too far with it, and
they'd been punished at the election. It is also part
of what the Church is going to go through. The
Church is going to go through what we what this

(49:46):
election just went through, and it's gonna you know, the
Democratic Party is going to get toppled. I think you're
going to see a very in a very short time.
Pope France is going to have to come up with
an idea of what to do because he's losing legitimacy
day by day. When this book comes out that I'm publishing,
his legitimacy will be seriously questioned by people all around

(50:09):
the world.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Well, and look, you've got the Catholic Church also now
and working with the communist Chinese government, and the Chinese
government is picking the priests in the hierarchy for the
Catholic Church in China while suppressing the Catholic Church and
the Pope is happy to work with Jen Jingpi. And

(50:31):
again it's money. It's all money, and the and the
and McCarrick, with his frequent embassies to the to China,
architected this evil relationship between the Communist Chinese party on
the Vatican.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, there's another name you need to put into this.
That Secretary Perilin second Cardinals who was the Secretary of
the Vatican. Cardinal Perilin now he's part. There was a
two person team that basically excommunicated Archbishop Biganel and Caroline
is very involved in the what the how the Vatican

(51:12):
has changed its approached the communist China, basically the betrayal
of the Chinese Communists of the Chinese Catholic Church, the
underground church that thrived for hundreds of years. Perlin is
the guy who's behind that. And Carolyn was also very
involved in. He was the I think it's like a

(51:35):
bishop archbishop in Mexico, Nigeria and Venezuela, very involved in
these Marxist areas that have a high lot of oil,
a lot of money, a lot of globalists and a
lot of corruption. So Heron Herolin is the naming we
need to talk about too. I talk about him a

(51:55):
lot in the book. Carolyn is the guy who put
together the report. It was under his review that made
this sort of explain what mccarroh did to the church,
to the media and to the and to the people
of Catholics. So they put out this report. It was
a whitewash. It wasn't a real report, and that's what

(52:15):
Vigano was saying it. Basically, that report makes Vigano look
like he wasn't really trying hard to get rid of
Macarater where he really was. So this guy, uh, it's
not just Pope Francis. This is the deep state, Carolyn. Uh,
Pope Francis and there's others, and you know, Bishop Bigano
stands up to him and names them.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Well, it's a deep state in the deep Church. Yes,
and they're both now in this book Jacques, which we
just published on the authored by Archbishop Biganal, and what
he says is he he's talking about Archbishop Mike marcelf
the thief who before all Viganald also opposed the Catholic

(52:59):
Church and in terms of apostasy, and he writes this,
Archbishop Pigano is writing this here on the Catholic Church
has become an anti church, and it's anti anti Christ oriented.
To those who remind me that arch Marcel Lefever never

(53:19):
went so far as the question of the legitimacy of
the Roman pontiff while acknowledging the heresy and even the
apostasy of the council or popes, when he exclaimed Roman
has lost the faith. Rome is in apostasy, I remind them,
in the last fifty years, the situation is dramatically worsened,
and all probability this great pastor today would act with

(53:40):
equal firmness publicly repeating what he said then only to
his clerics. Quote in this pastoral council, the spirit of
error and lives has been able to work at ease,
planning time bombs everywhere that will blow up the institution
in due course. That's something that Archbishop of Favor wrote

(54:01):
nineteen seventy seven. And again, he who is seated on
the throne of Peter participates in the worship of false gods.
What conclusion could we draw, perhaps in a few months time,
the face of these repeated acts of communication with false cults.
I don't know, I wonder, but it is possible that
we will find ourselves face to believe, forced to believe

(54:23):
that the pope is not pope, because at first sight
it seems to me I do not yet want to
say it in a solemn public way, that is impossible
for someone who is a heretic to be publicly and
formally pope. That was in March nineteen eighty six. Now
I did a DBD when Pope Prancis was first put

(54:45):
into place, which was on the last pope, and I'm
increasingly coming to the conclusion of the last pope was
BENEDICTA sixteenth and this Pope is not a legitimate pope. Yeah,
I agree, And so I think we're at a crisis
in the Catholic Church which is similar to the crisis

(55:06):
that we have now seen in the United States government.
And I think as the people in the United States
have just sulemnly rejected this woe agenda of Kamala Harris
of Joe Biden, and Biden's corruption was massive in terms
of not only also participating with Ukraine, taking millions and

(55:28):
billions of dollars from China for his son and his
son's investment firms out of both Ukraine and of China,
stealing money out of the treasury. All this money, the
Treasury's deficit spending is going somewhere. It's all being stolen.
And you've got that much money funding international organizations of

(55:50):
intelligence operating the most grievous crimes imaginable against human beings
ventanol and drugs across the border, supporting the drug cartels children,
is holding the sex slavery, tricked into sex slavery to
live lives of unimaginable horror. People forced him to force

(56:11):
labor working in the lives of unimaginable horror with his
entire prices at the border, created intentionally by the Obama
and Biden demons and their State Department and their CIA
right and fostered by the Catholic Church. Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I wrote this back and forth. I did some emailing
back and forth with Archbishop Bagano, and I said, look,
we're just telling the truth about what's happening in the church,
what's happening in the Obama Biden White House, and the
truth is God's word. So God's on our side on this.
God will fix his church. God will fix Jesus' church.

(56:57):
Jesus will fix his church. We're the vessel our words.
Our truth is how people learn and hear. And that's
what happened in the selection. People got the real truth
about what was happening with Biden, who Donald Trump really was.
It wasn't through a filter of media. They got through

(57:18):
around that media filter that thwarted him in twenty twenty.
That was part of that plandemic. And so the people
were able to make the choice because the people are
good people people. You know, whether they're Catholics, it's Catholics
in the Catholic Church, or American voters or European voters
in all their various countries, people want basically the same

(57:42):
civilized values and so we're going to always get that.
But what we need is the truth. We need. God's
word is the truth and we need and God is
on our side when we tell it. And we're just
sitting here telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Well, you've documented the truth and you were there for
sand experience it, you saw it, and now you're chronicle.
I get and I'm sure it was a shock to
you when you realize this evil was there.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, I didn't want to write the book. I said
that at the beginning. I don't want to have to
write this book because I don't want to believe this
is happening, but it is. So It's an almost insurmountable evil,
and we talk about it, We inform people about it,
they make decisions about it, They make decisions about how
they attend church, how they discussed their religion with their

(58:30):
pastors and their bishops, and that influences the direction of
the church. That's how it has to happen.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Well, this evil has to be exposed and has to
be rooted out, and it has to even if it
brings down great institutions, it has to happen. Donald Trump
is going on to an almost insurmountable task of reforming
this amount of evil, and I don't think it's possible
for us to do it alone. I think the entire

(58:59):
Biblical life is that the real path here and what
we're what we're advancing and arguing for is ultimately, you know,
asking for forgiveness and for repenting and asking for revival.
So second Chronicle seven fourteen, which basically says that my

(59:19):
people will quit their equal ways and get on their
knees and beg forgiveness. I will hear their plea and
save their land. And we're in one of those moments
where we have not yet had the judgment of God.
It's impending there will be a judgment of God. But
I think that enough people have come awake instead of

(59:40):
being woke, that are fighting this now. And you see
that in the vote that Donald Trump God winning all
five of the swing states, you know, sweeping the majority
of the country except for some enclaves and the just
on the Pacific coast, not even all of California anymore,
a feuse, you know, with the states in the northeast,

(01:00:03):
and other than that, the rest of the country said
no way, we don't want this nonsense. We rejected and
so therefore that is the beginning of repentance and revival.
But again, and I watched this morning of a video
with Donald Trump saying, we've got to bring the Bible
back into our lives, got to bring God back into that.
We won't do this without bringing God back in. And

(01:00:25):
if you remember when the Antipa and Black Lives matters
were trying to burn down Saint John's for Presbyterian Church,
which is right across the street from the White House,
on the other side of Loafaiette Park of Church, that
every president of the United States has attended virtually back
to the beginning that he was held a Bible out
in front, and the mainstream media ridiculed him and blamed

(01:00:49):
him for the riot and blamed him for the damage
under the church. I think the American people now have
rejected the media are beginning to see the CIA, and
I think we will find the CIA's hand in the
middle of deposing a Benedict the sixteenth and putting Bergoglio
in as a false pope who was a Marxist with

(01:01:10):
a reputation, and I think we're going to expose that reputation.
You know, you don't think that Bargolio is supporting all
of this going on in the priesthood, becoming homosexual and
pedophilia with boys without having himself had a history in Argentina.
And I think that history needs to be exposed. We

(01:01:30):
need to understand it. We need to understand who we're
dealing with. Same as with Obama, and these agendas would
want to take us away from traditional families. We're now
having increasing numbers of children raised by one parent because
of divorce. We're not having parents remain in marriages that

(01:01:51):
require mature reconciliation and adjustment to another person not easy
to do. Amendment you make, and that commitment has deep meaning.
It's why these are sacraments, It's why these are vows.
These are promises that you should not make casually. And

(01:02:12):
so therefore, until we get back to God and understanding
that you know this, our experience here is all we
get to take from here, and it will be judged
of the idea that you know, guys like Haurrarii. No
Hararii can say God is just a sky fairy. Well,
I'd like to see Hararii, when he faces judgment, argue

(01:02:34):
that to God himself. And so therefore we're dealing with
a fundamental disconnect which I've tried to work on in
that book on the truth about Neo Marxism, cultural Maoism,
and anarchy. Just like I tried to expose the truth
about climate science and the truth about energy climate warm

(01:02:54):
energy climate change and global warming, I wanted to make
sure that everybody understood this was all not sense. And
so therefore we're doing this in anticipation of your book.
But Chris, if you'll put up the current book, I
want people to see that again so they can get
the current book. An anticipation of the future book. So

(01:03:16):
the Mike, the current book you have out is again the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Book is The Kase Peaching and Prison Joe Biden. It
has a lot in there about this Alliance for Prosperity,
a blow by blow description of Joe Biden's involvement in it,
Orlando Hernandez's involvement in it, and General Kelly's involvement in it,
and where it took the government in through twenty sixteen,

(01:03:44):
and I believe I stopped in twenty sixteen. But this
new book has what came out of that and the
you know, sort of the Vatican, what the Vatican did
with the Alliance of Prosperity. So yes, the case in
Peach in Prison Joe Biden important book to get the
two of them together are very important, and they compliment

(01:04:05):
each other really well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Well, Mike, we'll have you back and when the new
book is published, and we'll do more interviews on this,
because I think you had firsthand experience of the nature
of this evil that we're describing in the Deep State
and the Deep Church exactly. It has to be ended,
It has to be rooted out, and with God's help,
it will be done. Any any last comments you like,

(01:04:28):
to make as we finished wrap up this session.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
No, but I I thank Archbishop Pagano for all his
work and his prayers. And I think uh arch arc
Angle ar Chain arc Angle Michael for his help in
this too. I think I helped held at eight. I
had uh arch Angel Michaels Saint Michael's prayers helping me

(01:04:55):
throughout this process.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Well, it's important it should be said at the end
of the Mass, and the Mass would be restored to
the original liturgy. And we're not white supremacists for saying that,
and we're not terrorists because we believe in God and
the you know, the concluding thing, the point I want
to make in all of this is that again God,

(01:05:18):
God always wins. God's going to win here too. God
did not create this experience and human race for Satan
to win. But again, this is a great test and
we are going to face the judgment of God because
we have just killed too many children and you know,
babies cut to pieces in the womb, their body parts sold.

(01:05:40):
Since worl will be weighed. We allowed God to be
taken out of our schools by the Supreme Court since
the nineteen forties. We've got to restore these things. We've
got to get back to a limited government which does
not have so much money and so much power control
our lives, and realize that the the people are sovereign

(01:06:01):
and that the states were constituted to be sovereign to
the federal government, which had limited enumerated powers in the
original Constitution. So therefore, our founding fathers realized that our
rights were bestowed by God. Human rights could not be
taken away. The human soul has a value to God

(01:06:26):
that merit its creation and also its salvation. That Jesus
Christ came to earth for that purpose, and his mission
was not to be liberation theology and twisted into the
woke version of Kumbaya

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