The Luciferians’ Obsession with Hawaiian Culture

Cregg Lund, author of Silicon Satan, joins Corsi Nation for Part 7 in a series centering on the dark underbelly and Luciferian ritual culture of the Silicon Valley elite as chronicled in his novel under the guise of a fictional story.. Lund focuses on the Silicon Valley Luciferians' obsession with old Hawaiian tribal culture, which included mystic rituals and (despite the PC coverup within academic circles) cannibalism.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
More Angel. This is yourne course and we have with
us again today Craig Lund. I'm very pleased about it.
We're going through his book, Silicon Satan. It's a novel, Craig,
how are you good?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
And this book is I think extremely important. We are
also featuring Craig on the homepage of course nation dot com.
So if you'll scroll down, you'll see Craig will show
you here. Scroll down on the page, Chris will show
you here, and you scroll down, you'll see a section
devoted to Craig Lund, and that's where, in fact, if

(00:41):
you go into that section, you can see sections from
his new novel that's in progress, as well as videos
he's put together of illustrating various of the scenes in
the books. The videos are really good. I'm very pleased
with how they've come out, and they give you a
whole new dimension of appreciating how Craig is visualizing the

(01:06):
novel as he's writing it. So I'm very pleased with
how this is developing. And I think Craig may take
a little bit of time, but I think you'll be
developing and following, and I think it's already started to happen.
You know, if you put your an email address on here.
If we get that put in here, you can get
it to Chrisip added, people can start corresponding with you.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah. The best way is just info at siliconsatan dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, well we'll add that here. If you want to
correspond with with Greg Lund, you can do it at
info at siliconsatan dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I didn't realize so much time. Oh sorry, don't mean
to interrupt you, but no, I didn't realize how much
time I'd be spending answering these emails. I get a
lot of these emails.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well that's good. That's how you build a fan base.
And of course you know how to database them and
to get a list, and I'll do all that. Those
are your fans, and they will be if they read
one of your book, so they're going to read all
of them. So you're building a career here. Silicon Saint,
I think is a really important book. It details Craig's experience.

(02:12):
Craig was a very accomplished programmers, a technical guy out
in Silicon Valley and had a good career going. I
was initiated into the Satanic sects that really rule Silicon
Valley also rule Hollywood. They rule the elite political circles

(02:35):
in New York and around the world in Washington, d C.
And what Craig's book is doing, his novels and is
writing are doing is bringing to light the really the
demonic nature of a lot of these worlds that are
just simply unaccessible. Most people think, how could this be?

(02:58):
I mean, the first reaction is this is who outland?
It just couldn't be happening. But it is happening, right Craig.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
It is happening. It's interesting because we started, you know,
working on this book years ago, and it's very interesting
how the rest of the world is finally caught up
to what we were talking about all those years ago
and finally put out. I was kind of wondering if
feel to be interested, but the timing is just, you know,
I'm amazed at how much has happened in the last
five years.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well especially right now. I mean, you've got the p
Diddy trial going on, We're finding out new revelations about
the Epstein tapes and the Epstein materials, and I think
virtually everything that we're finding out is exactly what you
predicted would be the case.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, pretty much unfortunately. I mean, the whole world knows
what adrinachrome is now. You know, I've known about it
for a long time, and I didn't think anybody would ever. No,
I didn't think the world would know about it. But
you know it's all over the place.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, it's this is the kind of.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
You can see the effects on certain people as well.
You know when they when they get hooked on it
and then they get pulled off of it, like justin
Bieber for example. It's just he's going through withdrawals. You
can you can see it, you can see him aging.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a hormone that's produced when
babies are infants are caused to feel excessive fear, and
it's mind out of those systems. I mean they kill
them first and then get the adrina chrome. What how
is it done? Uh?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, you know they have it down to science. It's
very it's all biology. They know how to raise certain
levels of certain hormones in children especially, and how to
harvest the drug they want. You can you can drink
it directly, I guess, you know, drinking the blood directly. Ah,
I think you know a lot of people do that,

(04:50):
but I think most of the people and you see
in Hollywood that are just never aging, they're you know,
it's they're getting a refined version of it. You know,
the rituals is it is fun, but they need that
to keep going as well.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
And they keep they get it. Do they kill the
children to mind it?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I suppose yeah, yeah, I've never been involved in that process,
but yeah, I suppose that they you know, they do,
you know, ultimately, you know, I'm not really sure how
it works. It's it's coming out more and more. More
and more people are doing a lot of research on
you know, exact science, and you know, there's everything from
from kids in cages. You know that I've never seen

(05:30):
the light. I don't have any proof of that, but
it wouldn't surprise me. I mean to just since that
trying to synthesize it, but I don't think that's possible.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, the the nature, the Silicon Valley nature, the I mean,
the whole thing is so dark and demonic that you
can almost imagine anything happening. But you what you experienced
was that you if you're going to get to the
higher levels in Silicon Valley, to the you know, the

(06:04):
god levels where you're making on huge amounts of money
and you have all kinds of power. You're only going
to do that through joining the Satanic rituals and then
there's no escape.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And it's even by on that. The people that go
that level, they're there, they want more than just money
and power. They think they're gonna once they get that,
they're gonna live forever and be gods. That's their ultimate goal.
Is the ultimate goal isn't just get rich. There's a
lot of different ways to do that. Their ultimate goal
is to get rich and then use that money to
live forever. Yeah, out do God.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
They truly do think they become transhuman?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
They do, they really do. They really they really believe this.
This is this is you know, you have to get
like you were just saying, you know, you have to
have an imagination to even understand what what they do daily.
It's it's it's a whole different world. It's a whole
different it's a whole different world, a whole different species.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, and you manage to escape from it, of course
a great costs. I mean, they just about ruined you,
and you know the psychological damage is probably permanent.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, being there is about ruining me getting out is
what saved me. Getting out of that was what saved me.
And you know, talking to some of these people that
have been contacting me, I've never really come out and
said it, but I really didn't have to go through
a lot of the rituals. And the reason why I've
never said is because I don't want people to think
that I'm just in the nile. But my path was

(07:28):
a little bit different just because I wasn't really trying
to get to that point I had. You know, I
was an engineer and I wanted to build things. You know,
I was. I was a really good software engineer and
did a lot of a lot of really good systems,
really good designs of the visionary in TECHNOLOGYY like technology.
So it was a lot a lot of the rituals
I part. You know, I was an observer to a

(07:50):
lot of them, but I've never I didn't participate in
all that many, which is why I kind of stayed
at the engineering level. I never really got into the
the management. And then when I when I start trying
to push me into that and trying to get me
to do these rituals, that's when I start panicking. You
needed to get out because there was no other way.
You know, up until that point, I was pretty naive.
I thought, Okay, this stuff is going on, and it's

(08:11):
just a group of wirdows. And then I realized, now
this is their life. This is what they really believe.
Not only do they believe it, but they live it.
And they've been living it for a long long time.
You know, this group of people, and I'm about to
get stuck in it. I got to get out of here,
So I did, right.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I'm sure you've felt panicked over the idea that they
had to get out. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I want to
focus on it's part of the of the novel that
really starts focusing on Hawaii, and it has some really
unusual significance. And so where the book does it come up?

(08:47):
You begin to discuss it, and then you focus a
whole section on Hawaii. Tell me in the novel how
it fits together?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, I start with a story about some ancient, an
ancient couple, and it's sort of a typical story about
a lot of this. When I was I lived in
Hawaii for a couple of years when I was working
on the Keck telescope, and then I went back a
lot you know, we were going on back and forth
a lot. But I started off with the story. It's
a typical story, you know, a couple and and you know,

(09:14):
I tried to explain that in angel Hawaiian culture there
was two completely different classes, the al's and then the
common and the commoners the uh people to call now right,
and thee I mean, Okay, so it's a this island
is out in the middle of nowhere, and these weren't
fishermen and they weren't farmers. There was no pigs or

(09:35):
lobsters or quail on the island at that time. That
came later after Cook discovered and Europeans brought all that
stuff in. So what were they eating? You know? And
these guys are you know, the laes were someone called
Hawaii time, which is basically means laziness, you know, laid back,
sit on the beach, you know, and be fat, lazy.
And I don't mean to disrespect the Hawaiian people, but

(09:56):
this is part of their culture as far as I learned.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it's h harder than I I mean,
you know, Captain Cook was eating on the on the
beach at Abay anyway, So the elites would use the
commoners for slave labor and for food, and they were
very successful that they were very successful cannibalistic society. Most

(10:19):
cannibalistics such a sidey. Sorry, but there's a big storm,
and I'm getting a lot of staff of you guys
getting it.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
No, it's okay, we're here, you find okay.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So the Hawaiians are very, very uh successful cannibalistic society,
mostly by necessity. They had to make it work out
there because they were out there in the middle of
nowhere alone. And if you look through history, if you
do a little bit of study, you'll find that most
cannibalistic society is sort of been plowed. They start going crazy,
and part of the problem is that it gets to

(10:49):
they don't they don't regulate well enough. And the Hawaiians
did a really good job of regulating their cannibalism. You know,
their ways and means of cannibalism, their rituals. And I
think that the reason there's a couple of reasons why
I think the elites are very interested in Hawaiian is
because they like the seclusions. But too, I think they're
drawn to all the evil and left over, unclean spirits

(11:12):
that are that are still there. You know, it gives
them power. So there was a ritual that I got
invited to out there. When I looking back, I understand
now why they like having those blood rituals out there,
because there's a long history of them out there. They

(11:35):
have everything they spiritually speak and they have everything they
need right there. I mean it's hard to do that
same kind of thing. And you know, say Flagstaff, Arizona,
you know, or even Las Vegas said, you know, there's
no history, there's uh, there's no there's no depth there
to what they're doing. So that's where the that's what
where Hawaii plates and you look at these maleed fires
and all that, and it appears to me that they're

(11:56):
they're they're they're cleansing. The islands are a lot of them,
you know. I know, like Larry Elson, uh, the guy
you've been seeing talking about the surveillance state, he owns
the entire island of the ni Actually he owns the
company that owns It's a company called CTS or something
like that. And the only thing they don't own are
the little spot where all the minicipal buildings are. But

(12:19):
who gets to own a whole Everybody wants own island.
Who gets to own a whole Hawaiian island? And you
hear about Zuckerberg. Everybody else are building uh bunkers out there,
and it's a perfect spot because most of the bunkers
already built those lava tubes. Lava tubes everywhere. We did
a lot of lava tube exploration and I was there,
and a lot of lava tubes are used as temples
and places of refuge, and there's a lot of history

(12:41):
in those as well. So when you go down in there,
you can just feel, you can feel the thickness of
the evil and that you know over the years that
took place in there. Not everybody can, but a lot
of people except myself. When you walk in, you know
there's something bad happened here.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
The go ahead, sorry, you start writing about a you
go back in history and part of the novel and reimagine,
you know, the an earlier period of time when before
going back against hundreds of years. But you have a
scene with this woman who has a baby, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Are you talking you're talking about it two ancient Hawaiians.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yes, And the baby gets used in a ritual and
they you know, her name is Hunani. I guess is
that how you say it? Who Nani? And and she
this woman clearly loves her baby. And then they gather

(13:44):
in a beach area and they're going to have a ritual,
and suddenly the mother coldly begins to freeze in fear,
as she said, they have not heard this particular call
on the side of the island at a long time.
Gets the dreaded all hands call. It means the subjects

(14:04):
of the house of the Old Uah, including especially young
mothers and infants, are to assemble at the temple. And
why are they calling us? Klias was set much trepidation,
So why are they calling her?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
So A lot of these stories I got from Isa.
When I lived in Hawaii, I would hang out with
the older folks, old Hawaiians. I mean they were very
old when I was there. Long gone. Now, of course,
the whole culture I went back not too long ago.
The whole culture is different over there now. It's it's
become it's become a lot different. Anyway, I got all
of these stories from these from those people, and that

(14:43):
kind of ritual that I'm writing about was pretty common.
So and again, I don't want to disrespect the Hawaiians.
This is this is the stories that were passing me
from their elders. But it was the reason why they
they have they have these things called the Baby Bloout.
It's a one year it's a one year celebration and
that's when you you name your baby. And the reason
why they will tell you it's because baby has had

(15:04):
a high death rate and he didn't want to name
your baby until you were sure it's going to survive.
And that's true, but the death rate was because these
babies were being eaten, not because they were dying of
disease or anything like that. I mean they would, of course,
but you didn't want to name your baby. You weren't
even allowed to actually, because they may get chosen. And

(15:26):
if the baby's got a name and the village loves
it and he gets chosen, you're supposed to You're supposed
to be proud of that fact. So you don't. You
don't name your baby. You don't. You know, you take
care of it everything, but you don't really bond with it,
you know, until you pass that one year when it's
out of danger. Of course it's not always out of danger,
but at least it's not going to be in the

(15:46):
one of the dreaded baby rituals.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
So the baby ritual begins and the baby is ultimately taken, right,
and she's taken from her and killed in this blood
ritual in which the baby is sacrificed, and they eat
the baby. Correct, correct, Yeah, they cooked the baby and

(16:16):
eat the baby.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And you know's what these elicts are doing today. They've
they've taken that ritual and ran with it. That's why,
you know, it's not it's not anything new. People think
this is new. It's not. This has been going on
for a long time.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
What's the fascination with eating babies?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Well, I think because or thought innocence. You know, it's
it's it's God.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's evil. It's evil. It's a guy's most precious.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Being, right, it's you know, so you're you're thumbing God.
And there's that adrenichrome aspect. You know. Even though they
probably didn't well I'm sure they didn't understand the biology
back then, they knew that when you do these things
to this creature, you can get this certain effects out
and the effects are you know, narcotic sort of right,

(17:08):
and they use that to you know, talk to their demons.
And and they're just being manipulated by the demonic world,
by the by the unclean spirits, the same ones that
Jesus was fighting, and the you know in the cemeteries
are still here.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yes, I mean, it's it's a very tough part of
the book to read because.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Again, you know, to talk about too.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'm sure it is. Well, you know, you've got some
of the white sailors who are here, and they killed them,
but they don't eat them. They bury them. Why is that.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Those That particular story is an interesting story. It was
father's son, a captains. Well, the father had the big
ship and the son had the small companionship and they
got they got there were This was back in seventeen hundreds,
and they were going back and forth to Wahi from
the mainland, and they got separated, and the father's ship

(18:06):
went over to Maui and the son's ship ended up
on the coast of the Big Island, on the on
the west coast of the Big Island where King Kamehamea lived,
and there was a big fight. There was a lot
of in wars going on between the islands at that time,
and was king of the Big Island, and so he
commandeered that boat and he kept the seat. He killed

(18:27):
the sailors, but he ritualized him because he needed he
wanted that boat and the power, you know, the power
that came with it. He kept to the two of
the sailors, I can't remember his names, one of one
of the sailors in the pen of governor later on
out there, but he kept to him to run the ship.
And uh, he basically won the arms right, so he
took over all the islands just using just that one ship.

(18:51):
I mean he had because he had cannon, so he
could just pulled into a village and started blasting away
and they would surrender, but they didn't rip. I actually
was in that cave. I found that some friends of mine.
We went searching, like we found it. It's pretty interesting.
It's very interesting, you see it. But there was a
someone that put a baby and there was a baby
bones in there not too far away as another cave

(19:14):
that's just full of bones, full of human bones. And
we got caught trying to get into that one well.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And and also the mother eventually is raped and killed
or had a bash in her head. Would be. So
you've got a blood ritual in which king cam that's
the king Ifollwy is a piglet which looks like a

(19:46):
human infant instead of the actual human baby. But so
in other words, this is I guess where some of
the piglet roasting occurs.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
It.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I guess it's very similar to baby roasting.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, so the story, the story I heard from these
elders was that the missionaries brought in the kolu of
you know, that the pig let's to replace the human
babies going to stop doing that, right, human human pig
looks kind of like a baby, you know, they kind
of look kind of similar, pink, you know, cute. So yeah,

(20:22):
they got him to do. That's where a clue pig
comes from. You know, again, I really like the Hawaiian culture.
I like the Hawaiian people.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, and it's a dark aspect of the Hawaiian culture,
but again it is the it is an evil that
is now carried over into the current satanism that dominates
the you know, the p diddy class and the this
whole group of people that I guess the the two

(20:52):
common themes to all of this are certainly, you know,
rampant sex, but a lot of pedophilia and a fascination
with death and killing babies and eating babies, and life
has no particular meaning to these people. I mean, it's

(21:14):
it's a very well their lives do their lives do
but they but everybody else is expendable, and they feel
like they have complete license to cause them fear and
then to kill them and eat them. And it's almost
like they want to gain their energy by eating them.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, And and something that's always kind of perplexed me
is these Hawaiians. So first of all, how did they
get there? With all kinds of theories how they got there?
But how did they bring these rituals over? Because these
are these are not these rituals didn't originate with the Hawaiians.
The Hawaiians adopted them from somewhere else because they've been
like I said, they've been doing this, you know, since

(21:53):
you know Nimrods day. So how do they how do
they get these rituals? How do they figure this out? Well?
I think you know they were ta and so who
taught the questions? Who taught them win?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
And do you have an answer for that?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, I've never been There's a lot of people that
do that kind of research, and there's a lot of
there's there's different theories. I'll let them figure that one out.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
But it was interesting, right, the Hawaiians didn't start using
baby pigs in their luaus until after the Europeans introduced
swine to the islands in the late eighteen hundreds. Right,
And so the litule alves go back thousands of years.
So you say the litule alves go back to ancient

(22:38):
times in Hawaiian history. They were important rituals, but they
didn't use pigs. The Christian missionaries did two things when
they arrived at the eighteen hundreds. They planted thirty mesquite
trees all over the island to force the Hawaiians to
wear shoes, and they established maritime laws, which, among other things,

(23:00):
outlawed cannibalism. Okay, so uh, the Koloa pig wasn't a pig.
It was really a human baby to start with, right, right, Okay,
So again that's another just dark aspect of this that

(23:23):
it is a backdrop of the story. There's a lot
of evil always looming in the background of the story.
You know, you can see the way the characters are
acting has a deeper context that is just dark and evil.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
So if I mean if you if you knew that
all this stuff was taking place on a certain pizza property,
would you would you actually want to buy that property?
Would you want even be anywhere near? Every time, every
time he's elast find that, you know, something like this,
they gobble it up. They want it they you know,
that's why they like Hawaii, you know, Like I said,
there's two reasons. One is they like the unclean spirits
and they like the isolation.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, and they kind of both go together, you know.
It's it's isolated. It's course, until recently it was hard
to reach. It takes a lot of time to get there,
and it's not easy to reach Hawaii out in the
middle of the Pacific. On the distance is in the
Pacific or twice the distances in the Atlantic, and the

(24:22):
Pacific is twice as big as the Atlantic. It's a
huge ocean and people don't realize that who haven't crossed it.
Of course, at an airplane, you can do it in
a matter of seventeen hours. From New York. You could
be in Alaska, I mean in uh yeah, from Australia, yeah,

(24:43):
or Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, from Sale you can get there in five hours.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Five hours. Yeah. It takes about I think it's thirteen
or fourteen hours from New York because it depends, but
I think it's it's a long flight. I've taken it
many times. It's long flight. Yeah, okay, So you know,
the the nature of all of this is intertwined with

(25:09):
the sex, which goes. You know, there's constantly kind of
casual sex among all the people, but the characters just
seem to relate to each other. You know, right after
you do the Hawaiian scene, you've got a scene with
Roge and I guess it's Sloan, and you know, they're

(25:33):
just basically having sex, but the point is the graphic
aspects of it. So he's having sex with someone else
when other woman he's thinking about Sloan at the same time,
which is his girlfriend. And Roge becomes obsessed with Sloan

(25:53):
throughout this, from the time that their children have their
very first sexual experience into when they're both quite young.
So this this is you know, again, the sex theme
runs through it as just normal. I mean, it's just

(26:15):
every day, right.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
So all the taboos, all the things you're not supposed
to do, are broken. So you start with, you know,
breaking sex taboos and then you get into you know,
maybe homicide or you know, it's just it's a it's
a progression, you know, it's it's it's meant to break
down all of your all your moral you know, get

(26:39):
rid of your moral compass. It's that's a that's the
whole design. And so you know, that's why you know,
it's easy to start with sex, start doing crazy sex stuff,
and you know, it's fun, it feels good, it's conquering.
You know, there's a lot of drugs, a lot of
sex and drugs. The you know, these three guys that
were on the train recently with cocaine hasn't surprised me.
I didn't write too much about the cocaine, but cocaine

(26:59):
was everywhere. We used a lot of cocaine.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
He talked about the macarn and the incident on the
train with the cocaine that clearly surely looked like cocaine.
The way he snatched it up looked like he was
trying to do, you know, make sure nobody saw it.
Of course it was played sight.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, I don't know if it's cocaine or not. I
mean they look a little kit spume, but I can't
imagine those guys counting it in a baggy, but you
know what not and yeah, well nonetheless it's you know,
it was cocaine. Cocaine was pretty pretty common. It's you know,
it's a lot of these orgies start with with ecstasy molly,

(27:34):
and then to keep keep the ecstasy going, you do cocaine,
and then when you're done you want to go home,
you take ballium.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Okay, so I guess he Roger's having sex. I think
in this scene with this is right after with Merrill's there,
and I guess, is what Clara, it's this one and
we know whether camera whether it has a camera pushes,

(28:03):
you know, puts her camera down and lays him back
on top on his back, roge and crawls on top
of him. And then the part of it that seemed
to me she's horny right now, Rogers, the kualudes are
finally kicking in.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You're talking about the scene on top of the barn
roof when they're yes the top of the roof.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Then she pulls a vial of cocaine from her front pocket,
takes a small coke spoon and has hung on a
chain around her neck, and digs a few snows sorts
snorts of coke for them. When Sevany holds the spoon
to the nose, that makes her breast look even smaller
than he's comparing her breast to Sloan's breast. I mean,

(28:42):
the whole thing is you just get lost in this
and it's not you know, it's not written to be pornographic.
It's written to be It's like the drugs and the
whole experience, the evil all mixed together and the this
bizarre combination of formulation which has a world in which

(29:05):
there's just no good at all. I mean, it's all
just power, enjoyment, bizarre.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's kind That's kind of why I had to throw in.
When I was writing a book, I was like, well
where do I begin? Where does the story begin? And
I kept going further and further back because it really
did start, you know, with the Horse Ranch. You know,
everything was if I go back, if things have gotten
different at the Horse Ranch, then I never would have
got that far. I had to start there, and I
had to bring in the allag Bikers because that was
a big influence. And it kind of just shows the

(29:38):
pattern that's that it's really easy to fall into. It's
not like I was trying to make it happen there,
and I'm not the only one. There's a lot of
there's a lot of guys, like a lot of women
women like that we're going through this and you know,
a lot of them belled early, you know before they
you know, when when thing, when you know further an

(30:00):
orgy will scare a lot of people away, just one
orgy and that's you know, they're gone. You get through
their first orgy. It's kind of weird talking like this,
but you get to your first orgy and you kind
of feel, you know better about yourself, and then you
move to the cecle and you and then you do
the next thing and the next thing, the next thing.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
What do you get to sensitize?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, So what made it easy for me is because
all this kind of was started, you know, way real
early in my life, really, you know, real early in
the California had the horse ranch in the sixties and seventies,
the drugs and a lot of a lot of girls around,
a lot of women around a lot of you know,

(30:39):
it was actually fun, you know, the horse days and
the and the hardy days were fun in Silicon Valley
was fun. But at the same time, it was just
just constant. Yeah you know, Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Look, you're right here this on page twenty five, say,
growing up in a ranch meant learning how to hound
and nail in straight before learning how to ride a bicycle.
Good but hard work was easy to come by for Roger,
and life in a small California coastal college town had
potential for bright future. Roger kept looking forward. Horses and

(31:13):
Harley's were behind him, and you landed your first good job,
and then he moved moved, Uh you know, bending for
you were mending fences, et cetera. And you're getting into
this new this new setting in Silicon Valley and uh,
realizing that it's a different world and that you're putting

(31:36):
behind the ranch. But the ranch environment and all the
casual sex and all the you know, the easiness of life.
I mean, California is a beautiful place, is very warm
and comfortable. It's certainly not like living in New Jersey
or Wisconsin or Minnesota. You know, it's a it's an
easy life. But you know, you had carpets skills, you

(32:01):
learn how to run work on a ranch, you around horses,
so you knew that life very well. And the Tennessee
Walkers are beautiful to horses and probably one of the
more elegant horses in terms of you know, how to
ride them. They don't bounce up and down as watch.
It's very very gentlemanly horses. So, you know, the switch

(32:28):
from that life into Silicon Valley had to be jarring.
But the commonalities between the two, especially the sex, the
easy life, the kind of going with it that happens
one thing leads to another pretty soon. I mean it's
like Roger seemed to have sex with all the women

(32:48):
on the ranch and that never quit. But none of
the relationships were ever very developed, very deep. They're all
very superficial in many ways, except for maybe the relationship
was Sloan, which had a very kind of almost like
a pathological psychological addiction to one another.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, it was twitters and twisted. You know, somebody should
have intervened, some adults, should have intervened real early and
split them up them straight. But yeah, well they were
instead they were encouraged actually, And also the transition from
from horses to Silicon dog. Remember Silicon Valley back then

(33:30):
was a bunch of good old boy engineers. So the transition.
Wasn't those type of engineers you think if you think
way back, you know, the heath kit kind of guys,
you know, with the slide rule in their pocket. It
was they weren't. They weren't sophisticated at all. They you know,
they wore short sleeves and bow ties. And it was
when the business people came in took over when everything changed.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, that's it. It became the power group that took over.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I mean, it's like, okay, so we're reading about Jeffrey
Epstein and you know, now Moore is coming out about
Epstein clear that he was really intelligence operative and he
was bringing all these people into a compromising situation with
sex with underaged minors and videoed and they were then

(34:18):
used for blackmail powerful people. And I'm sure P Diddy
was somewhat of the same thing. But it created a
whole culture.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And Jimmy Saville over in the UK, and I forget
that there was another guy the same thing in Australia.
I can't remember that guy's name, the guy that did
all the Save the Children ads and turned out to
be a sex.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Trafficker, pedophile. Yeah, children's porn and all the rest of it.
I mean, this fascination with children is it's bizarre, but
it is one of the common themes that and then
the drugs and the use of drugs and the absolutely
no the value of God at all. I mean, Satan

(35:03):
is real. It's a real entity to these people, and
in a conscious kind of presence. I mean they almost
think that they can, you know, build a structure somehow
or other get invade heaven and kill God is one
of the great I mean, and that's serious. I mean,

(35:24):
that's just not nonsense. They do build a tower of babble.
Eventually we'll reach heaven and will invade heaven and will
kill God.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Mm hmm. They believe it too. They don't believe it,
believe it, but they're working on it.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
They're working on it. They're still working on it, right, Yeah.
And then you know the result of all this is
that so you see background with drugs, and you see
uh Zelenski who was known to do a lot of
cocaine and uh. And then these people cause wars, They
cause the whole horrible instruction, They cause economic disarrayed, they

(36:03):
destroy the middle class, and and the godless nature of
the whole thing is dark. I mean, the whole thing
is just dark.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's dark to us.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
To them is what is it exciting? What is it?
What draws it? Is it just a sense of.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It's To them it's it's uh, it's escape. It's an
escape plan. They got to get off the prison planet.
They gotta they have to break. They have to they
have to bring that to uh, get the right guy
back in the throne room, you know, their guy hospital
They don't they don't come saying the don't come.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Why do they do that?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't know. I think it's I don't know. I
think it's a Hebrew It's like like.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I don't know, Satan.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, it's like h apostrophe.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, you do that. That's in the book. You do that.
We see, I see that. It took me a while
to kind of catch on to that, but I think.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
It's their way. I think it's their way of just
sort of distancing themselves, are separating themselves from the Satanists
and the and the you know, the Alistafarians. I mean,
even though they use a lot of that magic, they
really despise people like Aleicster Crowley because he made it
look bad as far as they're concerned. You know he
you know, we joke around about these guys, but we're

(37:21):
talking about the most powerful, rich people on the planet,
and a lot of them you don't even know who
they are. You've never even heard of them. The people
you hear about it are usually puppets or they are
trying to be heroes. You know, they're either they're either
being used or they're they're trying to infiltrate. You know.

(37:42):
I tend to put Trump kind of in that infiltrate
because he's surrounded by these people, and I know he
knows who they are. I know he knows about it.
I don't think he's one of them. He could be.
I mean, they are clever, but I get the feeling
that him and a couple of others they're they're really making
an effort to imple right, but they're not gonna They're
not going to succeed. I mean, I hate to say it,

(38:03):
but they're not going to There's too much, there's too
much for them to get up against.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
No, they're not going to succeed. I mean it's not
you know, it's in in the end, God always wins.
I mean, it's they're they're just so deep into this
so the first book really I think, uh, you know,
it's sometimes software engineers narrow escape from the Luciferian's elite
satanic control over Silicon Valley, and that could easily be

(38:29):
written over Hollywood, or over Washington or or any of
the capitals of the world where these power circles are
and the globalists and they the novel it takes you through,
it's really a novel of awakening, and that raj through

(38:53):
it all begins to see not so much that even
both how banal it is, I mean, how vacuous it
really is, you know, because it's just repeat sex, repeat drugs,
repeat rituals, blood rituals. I mean, it's just a entrapment

(39:14):
in evil that languishes about it, all this evil and
doesn't really escape it, myers in it. And so the
first book ends with the escape, with you getting out
of all this and the difficulties of getting out of it,
how you know, alone isolated without any money, without any power,

(39:39):
without any connections, abandoned and have to get figure out
a way to survive and to pull yourself back together
and get together again life that was really destroyed.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Not to mention that, you know, the extremely low self
esteem you walk out with that.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Right, Suddenly you were powerful, successful, had everything you'd wanted.
And the next day your credit cards don't work. You
have nothing, you know, no money, no place to go,
no friends. You're just abandoned and and not in particularly
good shape because you've gone through all the sex and

(40:19):
drugs and rock and roll and you're now, you know,
withdrawing from all that, and it's it's a horror show
to get to survive at all. It's a miracle you
did survive. Now, what's the second book going to do?
How are you gonna go? How are you gonna follow
this with the second novel?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, the second book, believe it or not. I want
to go deeper into some of you, I know the person.
Some people complain that it was too graphic, but like you,
I held back and quite a bit. I want to.
I mean if I would kind of like to go
deeper with with what they what they really are doing

(40:55):
on on their side. Like when I talked to you,
I realized that I mean you, when you, when I'm
talking to people like you, you think that they're they
consider they know that they're evil. Not a hard time excited,
But I want to try to explain how they don't
think of themselves as the evil ones. They think of
themselves as the smart ones who are going to save
humanity or version of it. And we're the dumb ones,

(41:18):
We're the bad ones. We're the ones that you got
to get they got to get rid of, you know.
So I'd like to I'd like to try to get
get into that a little bit more. I also want
to maybe maybe save a couple of other characters, even
though it wasn't part of the original story. But I
got a couple of different ways I can go with it.
I've got a lot of material. I just have to
organize it now.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Well, it's going to be fascinating to see what you
do with it, because the the first book gets the
relationships of the first book, and you know, many of
the characters go Roger and Sloan go all the way
through the book, and these other characters that come in
and out of the book and are still you know,
but but as a cast a cares you know that

(42:02):
are all kind of lost in the same world and
are dependent on each other, but yet don't have any
real deep relationships to each other. I mean, the relationships
are all based on the drugs and the sex and
the you know, the feeling of somehow superiority and power.

(42:25):
It's very seductive world.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It would be really interesting to write to rewrite this
story from the Lee Nelson's perspective, because from his his
story is success in Silicon Valley. He didn't escape, he
liked it, he stayed with it, he succeeded.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
He's thriving, you know, until it comes to an end.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Right, until it comes to an end. And that could
be a very interesting end.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, I mean it could be if he tries to escape,
or if he just dies still immersed in it. You know,
you can.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Maybe you haven't. Maybe the last scene is him in
a kyrogenics.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah right, Well, they do think they do want to
extend life, and they do think they can live forever.
And so there they are seriously pursuing this type of
perpetual life, extent extension. And they think that somehow they've
graduated into a class where they are now worthy of
or self appointed to, or I've achieved the status of.

(43:32):
But it's hard to say put it in words, but
they're entitled. They suddenly become entitled, you know, and and.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
They use they use your own success as proof. They
like to say, well, yeah, you know, if our God
was a bad god, why are we so successful? Why
are we doing so well when you're not.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Right? And that's always been this the you know, the
seduct of Satan from the beginning. God can't make this
place work, You're gonna die. I can make this place work.
God doesn't want you to have that tree of knowledge
because if you ate that tree of knowledge, you know
how bad God's screwed up and didn't succeed. Well, I'm

(44:16):
here to fix it. I'm here to make it perfect.
I have just follow what I tell you to do.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
That's that's pretty That's pretty much sums up what they believe.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, it's a guide to eating story all over again.
And in a modern technological state where they've got all
kinds of tools of you know, technological wonder to achieve
their goals. They can think about instantaneous communications across the planet.
They can think about you know, intercott intercontinental interstellar travel.

(44:50):
They can think about all kinds of things which are
unimaginable for previous generations, the computers, merging human beings with
computers to produce a you know, trans human intelligence. All
these things which they then contemplate and become kind of
tantalizing to them. They're so near the success to achieving

(45:14):
them they think that they can become gods themselves and
are entitled to become gods themselves. I mean, it's a
fascinating study in psychology, and you know it is. This
is certainly not These are not things that Freud ever
kind of imagined. There's a world that is created today,

(45:35):
and it does revert back to pagan orgies and pagan
gods and all the rest of it, but it's in
a modern world. With the technological advances we have. It
adds a new dimension to it, and these people do
feel truly capable of doing things which in previous generations
would have made them look like gods. They show up

(45:58):
in the fifteen hundreds with the l phone and able
to use it and communicate. You're going to be considered
to be a god light, Yeah, with a big lighter.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
So it's the same thing. And so we have achieved
a lot as a species, but the fundamental nature of
the human condition has not changed at all. And we
all are mortal. We're all going to die, you know,
we all have to suffer through life and learn and
grow and and either you do or you don't. But

(46:31):
it's not measured in terms of material success. Here everything's
measured in terms of material success. And it's just startling
to be and get me over and over again reading
your work that these people really do envision and see
and experience Satan is real. So it's not conjuring mysteries

(46:52):
or you know that this is something they experienced daily.
They see it and they live it.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Well. One thing that I've learned going through this exercise
with you, I mean I was. I was scared for
a long time. I hid for a lot. Like I said,
you can't really hide from you just have to stay
up the radar. So I kept a really low profile
for a long time, which is kind of hard to
do because I want to do things. I want to
build stuff, you know. I wanted to, you know, build
the next killer app that kind of thing. But I

(47:20):
had anyway. One thing I learned is that there really
is truth in the power of Jesus Christ. Because if
I had not gone that direction, if I had not
confessed and gone to all those rituals it was counter rituals,
then they would have I wouldn't be able to do this.
I wouldn't. I would. I'm an example. I'm proof that

(47:40):
they that they can't touch people like me who confess
and turn their lives over to Jesus Christ. They can't
get to me anymore. And I'm quite certain of that
just because I'm protected now. Before I kind of thought
I was kind of a Christian, but you know, not really.
I mean, I believe something that that's not very powerful.

(48:03):
You have to really, you have to really believe hard.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
You know, we hadn't gotten to the depths of it.
You had it was superficial. Yeah, as I read it,
most of the things you believe were superficial.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah, I was. I was a Christmas Christian.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, you show up at Christmas in Eastern go to church, right, Yeah.
And but but the depths of what mental experiencing of
it you hadn't done. So you had to go through
this darkness to get there.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Which is so interesting the recent recent Where's Wally Part two?
I kind of he goes through an exorcism and I
kind of went through that. That's why I put that
out there is because that's kind of started me on
my on my road to recovery, was running into these
guys and they dragged me in there one day when
I was playing volleyball and they called me up and

(48:55):
wanted me to come in and they did an exorcism.
And they didn't call it an exorcism, they called it
demon casting.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
But it worked, Yeah, it did. All right, Well, we're
gonna wrap it up. Thanks for joining us again, and
we're gonna do more of this. We're gonna do more
of it. I want people to read the book and communicate.
You can do in info at siliconsatan dot com and

(49:20):
communicate directly with Craig. Read the book, ask him questions
about it. It's a again. I say, it's good idea
to have a copy of the Bible by you when
you read the book. But it's the whole point here
is that we as long as this remains hidden in
the darkness, we can't defeat it. Right later day, shining

(49:43):
on it, we have an opportunity to expose people to
what this evil is all about. So conscious decisions can
be made not to go there, and we begin to
see why moral rules are put into place, because once
these barriers are broken and you cross over into the
dark side, this is what it begins to look like.

(50:05):
And so Therefore it's a warning and it's you know,
it's well written. Your writing has improved dramatically. I mean
we began working together almost what six or seven years ago,
so it's taken time, and it's not been an easy
decision on your part. You've had many starts and stops.

(50:26):
But it's now happening, and we'll continue to do this
and we'll continue to talk about current developments and things
that we see in the world, real politics. You know,
we've now got a Catholic Church that is struggling as
to whether it's going to continue with the LGBT and
its agenda. And Pope Leo the thirteenth who saw Satan

(50:49):
coming into the Catholic Church, and now Leo the fourteenth,
now we're going to see whether he's a continuation of
the same or where we're going from here. But you know, again,
I think the church to realize is like the Democratic
Party does that it may have gone so deeply over
to the dark side, there's no coming back, and they
become suicidal.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Well, there's always you can always get back.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
You have to decide to come back. You have to
you have to seek redemption. You have to make a decision.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
You have to confess. You have to the way. The
only way was to sit down to start confessing it.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah. Well, Craig, I commend you for going on this
journey and sharing what you have and I want to
continue these broadcasts so we eliminate different parts of the
book and encourage people to take a serious read of it.
And thank you for joining us and the doctor Drone
Corsi Coursnation dot com and ending a program like this.

(51:47):
I like to remind everybody that in the end, God
always wins, and God will win here too, So thank
you for joining us. Of course the Nation dot com
with Craig Lund and Silicon Satan. We'll be back again
with more shows every weekday, Corsenation dot com. God bless