Bloody History Revisited with Cory Hughes on RedPill78 Saturday Night Livestream

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Of us will just I know it's painful to talk about.

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I'm mean, I've spent this the morning crying.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
I had to be here.

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I'm pretty sure I'm no longer who we think we
are and horrified by the fact that my fellow Americans
chose its own, the rapist and insurrectionist.

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I wake up and I just see orange.

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Just back kick to the body by John W.

Speaker 10 (05:12):
Young Man. There's no need to do down, I.

Speaker 11 (05:15):
Said, young man.

Speaker 12 (05:17):
It's yourself up the mount, I said, young man, cause
you're in a new.

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Count that don't need me half a young man. There's
some place you can go, I said to young man.

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When you're short on your dope.

Speaker 10 (05:34):
You can't stay there.

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And I'm sure you don't buy many ways.

Speaker 10 (05:44):
It's fine to stay in thought, saying it's hard to
stay in the.

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See they have had a man joy and you can turn. Oh,
but it's not paying fine saying it's going to stay.

Speaker 10 (06:04):
I see, you can get you something and you can
have a f mill can do. What about up, young man?
I can miss it to me, I said, young man.
What they do want to be? I'm heavy now that

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you can make millions dreams. But you got to know
this wild things. No man, don't it all by himself, saying,
young man, put your brod on the shelf, and just
no man to no boy, and see until help to today.

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It's fun to stay and I haven't seen it. It's
fun to stay and see it. They have your man
to John, you can hang up with old boy.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
It's hard to stay in them, see it.

Speaker 10 (07:07):
It's hard to stay and why and see it. You
can get just that. Leave Cook and I would come down,
Cook into whatever. Don't be.

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You man.

Speaker 10 (07:21):
I was watching your shoes.

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I said, I'm down it up with the blues.

Speaker 10 (07:26):
I felt coming turned and hour a lot. I felt
the world's son. That's friend.

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Someone came up to me and said, you man, take
the walk up the street into place there. Don't go
by him, see you.

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They can't stop.

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Oh no, wait, it's hard.

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To stay in the why, see it. It's starting to
stay in the why and see it.

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Pill seventy eight. As always, my name is Zach Payne,
the Corruption Detector, and this is another edition. Of Red
Pill News for Saturday night live stream. Joining us in
the studio tonight a very good friend of the program,
returning guest Corey Hughes, the pre eminent JFK assassination researcher.

(09:54):
Corey has a brand new book coming out imminently. It's
entitled Lee Harvey Oswald in Black and White, Volume One.
If you haven't yet, if you don't know who Corey is,
you've been sleeping under a rug. I would highly suggest
you go back and watch the multiple shows we've done
in the past, and then go find yourself the seven hour,

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just exhaustive documentary that he did, which is what led
me to his work several years ago. Corey's an awesome guy.
I can't wait to see what he's dug up next.
And now this will be two JFK shows in two weeks.
We had Robert K. Tannenbamd last week. Corey obviously has
a fresh set of eyes on all of this stuff

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and I cannot wait to continue our conversation now. You
can also go to the links in the description below
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we are streaming. Also, Bloodyhistory dot Substack dot com. He
also has his rumble channel, Corey Hughes Bloody History, and
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All right, good evening, everyone, welcome back, Thank you so
much for joining us, and please join me in welcoming
our esteemed guest for one more show, Corey Hughes. Corey,
how are you, sir?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm great.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you for having me awesome. It is always a
pleasure to be able to host you. We were just
talking before the show, and obviously I was telling you
about my interview with Robert K. Tanenbaum. Interesting guy. Obviously
he had quite a close approximation to the investigations, or
perhaps lack thereof, into the assassinations of John F. Kennedy

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and Martin Luther King. And one thing that I have
come to discover throughout my time in podcasting and interviewing
all of these different JFK researchers is that almost without fail,
nobody seems to look at each other's research, and everybody
seems to think that they've got the inside scoop on

(13:20):
what happened.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I didn't necessarily hear that with Robert K. Tanenbaum. I mean,
he seemed to know a lot about a number of
different researchers, and he was at least open to hearing
other people's point of view. But since you've come on
the show, I've attempted to get you in touch with
a number of other people that I've interviewed, and they
seem to have virtually no interest in it. What do
you think that might be?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, I don't know, and it's really kind of heartbreaking. So,
you know, I've been doing this a long time, and
the first couple years of my work and my discoveries.
You know, where you're going to share this stuff to
people who could understand what you're talking about. You go
to the known g AFK forums and Facebook groups and etc.

(14:04):
And systematically I was kicked out of almost I think
every single group, the Education Forum, the Facebook, JFK Assassination group.
I mean, there's been at least four or five that
I get kicked out of. And it's truly unbelievable because
what I really think a big part of it is
that there's this dogma that surrounds the Kennedy assassination. There's

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kind of this official conspiracy theory is what I like
to call it, the official story and conspiracy version, and
this is what all of the JFK researchers follow. They
like to say that Kennedy was killed by the CIA
over Vietnam. That's their thesis, and they attempt to build
huge skyscrapers on top of this foundation of sand and

(14:47):
it never works because well about ten months before the assassination,
Kennedy had just spent six and a half billion dollars
with a B on helicopters and airplanes. Even the CIA
comp in the ZR Rifle files, which were the zero
Restriction the assassination files, basically what they the multiple dictators

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that they either assassinated or attempted to. Even in those documents,
the CIA refers to Kennedy's executive order about the troop
reallocation in Vietnam, and they even state in their own
documents that that was simply meant to put pressure on
DM the Prime Minister, in order to get him to
go along with a war with the North. And they

(15:31):
he didn't go along, so the CIA took him out right,
and so the idea that Kennedy was going to pull
out of Vietnam is ridiculous. The ultimate reason, and everybody
had their own reason. You have to think the mafia
was involved. They had their reasons because Kennedy screwed them, right.
You have the CIA who were pissed over a lot
of things. They just thought he was a communist. Ultimately,

(15:52):
is what it comes down to. People will use like
Bay of Pigs and all these other things as reasons
for why they hated him. They just didn't like the
guy period from the jump, because of his politics. They
didn't want to change. They were conservative of that era,
you know. And so ultimately the reason Kennedy was killed
had more to do with Israel than anything else. In

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the years leading up to nineteen sixty three, in November,
from the day that Kennedy got into office, his number
one priority was to get rid of nuclear weapons. And
he knew because it had already been published in Time
magazine that the Israelis had the bomb. And so there
are three years worth of documents leading up to ultimately

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what's called the Battle of Letters in May of sixty three,
when Kennedy will threaten Ben Gurion because they have the
Demona reactor in the Nijev Desert that they're building working
on and they will not give Kennedy access or inspector's access,
and they're being typical Israelis and they're just obfuscating the

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process because they need to sign the Nuclear Deep Luri
for it. I hate this freaking word. I can never
say deeferation. Here we go, they have to sign the
treaty and they'd never signed the treaty, and we just
pretend that they don't have any nukes, right, And so
ultimately Kennedy was going to end all aid to Israel,
above and beyond the military aid. He was going to
cut them off completely. And if you'd have done that

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to Israel in nineteen sixty three, there wouldn't be in
Israel today. And Kennedy knew that, and that was his intent,
and that's why he was killed. Ultimately, that's why the
orders were greenlit from the highest levels at Ben Gurion,
which then trickled down to the massade, which in America,
the quote unquote roving ambassadors for Israel were Yitsak Shamir
and Minknock em Began, who by the time of the

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assassination had long established relationships with the US mafia, which
was run by Jews. Meyer Lansky was a Polish Jew.
He ran the mob from thirty one all the way
till he went on the run in the seventies, right,
and they knew this, and so starting back in forty six,
they sent Ruben Daphne of the Haganaut to go meet
with Bugsy Siegel. That kind of starts the relationship. It

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then continues with a direct relationship between Ben Gurion and
meyer Lanski with the Sonborn Institute, which was a large
scale smuggling operation.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
You see.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
After World War Two, they just assumed that America would
help them oust the Palestinians and give them all these
weapons and go fight a war. And we told the
Israelis a pound sand and so what did they do?
They came up with this plan to basically raid our
surplus World War two weapons from various bunkers and armories
around the country. It was a very large scale operation
and it was coordinated with the CIA, yep, who have

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been traders to this country from day one.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
So this relationship with the with between the mafia and
the Israelis and the CIA, it all goes back to
the forties. So by sixty three you have this their
one organization. They are inseparable in ideology. They are what,
in my opinion, gave birth to this new world order,
at least post Kennedy, because Kennedy was the final obstacle
to really taking over the world. Because you have to say,

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the Zionists when they killed Kennedy took over our military, yep,
took over our decision making. They had their puppet Lyndon
Johnson in the White House, who you know about the
liberty and all that subsolutely not after that. He was
Jewish And no one wants to acknowledge this, but Lyndon
Johnson was a jew and he was raised Jewish. But
of course when these guys get into politics, they changed
their name and or whatever, they try to pretend that

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they're not Jewish, right, which is exactly what he did.
But he stayed loyal to his Jewish roots the entire time,
which is obvious through the relationship he developed with Israel.
And you have to think, well, people say, well, there
couldn't have been a coup or anything, because nothing changed
after they killed Kennedy. That's the whole point. Nothing changed.
That was the point that nothing was going to change.

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And so to me, when you see what's happened to
the world since, it has been the inevitable decline of
Western civilization because of the Zionist mentality that took over
our country on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. And today,
despite how much I like a lot of the things
Trump is doing, he is seemingly giving into the Zionists

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at every turn.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And let me push that. Let me push back right there,
because I was gonna say also, I mean, since the
last time you were on the world has dramatically changed,
not only with the re election of Donald Trump, but
also with the prevailing attitude towards Israel. I mean, very recently,
it seemed pretty clear to me that Donald Trump is

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in the in the process of weaning Israel off of
the military support of the United States. Of America. There
has been a public sort of decompression of that relationship.
I'm sure you remember when Netanyahu came for that state
visit and Donald Trump stood there in the White House

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and basically told him in the rest of the world
for the first time that Israel could not keep doing
to Palestine what it had been doing, and we were
going to rebuild Palestine. I mean the body language net
and Yahoo. I am positive he had no idea that
that was going to get dropped on and he couldn't
argue with it right there. He's got to be like okay.
And then you also very recently had net Yahoo say

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in the Kanesse. This came out as a rumor, and
then the audio came out telling the Kanesse, you know,
we are going to have to decouple from United States
military support. And just as you said earlier, if we
go back to the sixties, you know, if we had
not essentially allowed Israel to develop the bomb, you know,
either through the assassination of John F. Kennedy or the

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machinations of the CIA, et cetera, then they would not
exist in their current form. They wouldn't have the power globally.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
That they do.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
So I mean, what I see is Donald Trump playing
a very dangerous game. I think that he understands that
the people who want Israel to continue and flourish in
its current form and beyond would have no problem killing
him if it came down to it. And there's no
nothing to say that perhaps they didn't have a hand

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in the attempts that we saw during the campaign. But
while maintaining the public friendly relation with the nation of Israel,
but then also building those other relationships in the Middle
East that will then support the rebuilding of Gaza and
in the inevitable decoupling of the United States military and

(22:24):
the billions of dollars in support that we give them
every year. It's putting Israel into a sort of impossible
position because there's nothing that they can really attack. Donald
Trump is bringing peace to all of these different areas.
He is doing what it seemed nobody was ever thought
would be capable in the Middle East. And then he's
also telling Israel and the rest of the world, you

(22:45):
cannot be our orphans. At this point, We're not going
to continue to just give you free money.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I agree with everything that you've set However, I just
can't help but feel like there's gonna be a bait
and switch here.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I see, I understand, and then I think this is
where a life people are.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
They're gonna get They're gonna get net and Yahoo out,
and then they'll put all the blame for all the
horrors of Israel that they've ever done on netan Yahoo
like he was this horrible person, and then it might
return to some sort of normal normalcy over there. But
then before you know it, because the entire premise, the
fundamental essence of Zionism is global supremacy. Sure, I don't

(23:27):
want to hear anything about it's the sovereignty of the
Jewish people. Bullshit. That is the lie they tell the Goyam.
It is a plot to take over the world that
was enacted physically in eighteen ninety seven by Theodore Hertzel
and all the guys at the in Basil, Switzerland. That
design is Congress. When you go back and you read
the minutes, it is clear what these guys' intention are.
And it's funny because when you look at the other

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attempts to have a Jewish homeland, there was one prior
to Hertzel, and it was by a guy named Hirsch
who was also a German who established a colony in
Argentina of about fifteen thousand Jews down there that I
don't know where that went. No one ever hears about that.
But when you look at the writings between Hertzel and Hirsh,

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basically what you find is that they're talking about how
to how do you get countries to let you to,
you know, get a foothold, and how do you get
a colony in a country, and this and that, And
basically Hirsch explains to them that you get your colony,
you get your foothold, and then you grow to a
point where you take over the country. That was basically
the plan going back to even before Hertzel, right, And

(24:32):
so with a foe like that, there's no negotiations. You
have to eliminate that foe because if not, they are
a parasite in an ecosystem, and they will destroy the
ecosystem and they will die with it. And that's the
thing that these Israelis don't understand. They are the parasite
that will die with the host. They're not going to

(24:53):
have some great world to themselves when this is all over,
you know, they'll they'll rule on a pile of ashes
you know what it hit say. Hitler said that if
the Jews actually took control of the world, we would
end up just another lifeless rock and space, and that
was his ultimate fear, and I completely agree that's exactly
what will happen if the Zionists are allowed to continue
and until we just put them out of business a

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country that never should have been there. It's the oldest
conspiracy in the modern era. And then when you really
come to understand the story of the twentieth century, the
story of the twentieth century start to finish is the
story of Israel. And when you look at every major
event from that perspective, the whole story of the twentieth
century starts to make sense. Kennedy becomes crystal clear. All
the obstacles to this new world order, which is exactly

(25:38):
what it is, they all all start to become clear
when you see that the driving force between every event
and the twentieth century is by Israel. And so I
am really just the idea that in this country alone,
they're trying to like pass laws against anti Semitism and
shit for a group of people who aren't even fucking Semitic.
It's a Goddamn, we're living in bizarro universe. And you know,

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unless Trump were to just put these people out of business,
I just really don't know what to think. Trump has
got me more confused over what's happening in the modern
era than anything I've ever seen, because I have a
very good grip on how this shit works, and he
just took the playbook and threw it out the fucking window.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
He did, sure did. Now, you know, I think that
you're absolutely right on that. And if if you're confused,
then I think that our enemy is also confused. And
I have to say, I think that that's probably the
best thing that we could hope for. I understand we're
dealing with a very very small timeline here within this

(26:39):
four year term that Trump can fully dismantle the New
World Order and put us on another track. But it's
sincerely my hope that that's what he's doing, you know.
I mean, I just looking at who he was before
he became a politician, and he's not even really a politician.
I think he's just a guy who has strongly held

(26:59):
convict you know. I mean, he wants to save the country.
I believe that he also wants to set the world
up in a position of peace, right, so that we're
not killing each other in endless wars. You know, so
many of the wars that we fought in the Middle
East can, as you said, be directly traced back to
the needs of the nation of Israel, right. I mean,
like the destabilization of the Middle East is good for

(27:23):
Israel because it makes them more and more powerful every
single time. It stops these other nations from being able
to rise up and become a powerful foe in that region.
And the countries that do have power, they've got tremendous
wealth and they've got stability. But what do you think
about President Trump, uh, you know, his Middle East peace

(27:43):
tour that he just went on. I mean, like that's
got to have riled the feathers of Zionists who were
hoping that we wouldn't cozy up to them.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yes, it's very interesting, yeah, because he basically snubbed them
the whole trip. Basically, net Yahoo and the Israelis in
general believe that they are the masters of the Middle
East and anybody who's having a conversation they need to
be in the middle of it. And Trump just basically
sent a major message by saying no, I don't think
so these are our talks.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
It's shocking because that is blatantly in the face of
the Zionist entity entity.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah so yeah, So that's.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
What confuses me because I'm confused because he sucks their
dick on a regular basis, and then he does this,
and then I'm like, he gives you an inkling of
hope and then how many times his government just yanked
the hope out from under you?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know, well, like you know, I think about the
way that he handles relationships, you know. I mean it's like,
have you ever read the Art of the Deal? I
mean no, I haven't. Even if you haven't read the
Art of the Deal, if you just look at President
Trump's deal making prowess, okay, the the way that he
exerts pressure and forces either companies or nations to come

(28:58):
to the table. Okay. I mean like basically every single
time walks up to the table in the middle of
the room, pulls his balls out because they're the biggest
balls in the room, and sets them on the table
and says your move okay, and either they don't know
what to do or they make the wrong move, and
then he says okay, I'm gone, and he walks away
and he forces them to come back to the table.

(29:21):
You know, I mean continuously he has, you know, throughout
this very short time that he's been in office, he
has brought a resolution, even if it's not lasting, to
a number of conflicts throughout the world. And he's essentially
basically just come to the table and said, you know, hey,
we've got to stop killing each other. We've got to

(29:41):
be able to live in peace. And if we can,
you know, do business with each other, then everybody has
a reason to stay alive other than mutually assured destruction
through nuclear war. But this, this is consistently what he does.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
He has he maintains a.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Relationship, okay, and it will be alternating like friends and
then foe like okay. So like think about the mainstream media,
you know, I mean, how much shit does he talk
about the mainstream media. He's got journalists that are in
front of him in the press room or on these
trips that he does, and he'll let them stick around.

(30:17):
He'll ask let them ask questions, and if they're decent questions,
he'll answer them, even if it's to people who have
smeared him in the past, and then if they say
something stupid, he will just basically dismiss them and then
go on to somebody else. But he still ends up
doing interviews with these people. You know, he keeps that
line of communication open. And I see the same thing

(30:37):
with global leaders. You know, I mean, we all have
to live in this space. Okay, the world is only
so big, and everybody's got a toe hold in one
place or another. And if you just come in guns blazing,
then you're gonna have people killing each other. That's not
what he wants. So he has to come in with
a bullish attitude and see how people are gonna respond.

(31:00):
And it's like, you know, you walk up and poke
somebody in the chest, you're going to prompt a response
from them. But if you punch them in the face,
well then that response is going to be very different.
You can still get them to respond strongly without necessarily
resorting to physical violence if you're just a little bit
too close. And and you know, I just I think
that Trump is consistently projecting an aura of power on

(31:25):
every level with every single person that he talks with.
And you know, whether it's physically imposing himself upon world
leaders like Emmanuel McCrone, or doing it in a diplomatic
sense as he did with net and Yahoo in the
White House, or you know, in a friendly physical closeness
as he did with the leaders in the Middle East.

(31:46):
You know, I mean talking about the special relationship that
we have with these countries. You know, I mean like
he's brought billions, tens of billions of dollars back to
the United States. I mean, I don't see how that
isn't positive. You know, by by creating this position of
economic strength through the United States, it elevates us back
to the top of the heap, and it also puts

(32:07):
us into a much better position of leverage with these
other countries, so that ultimately we can get what we
want and we're pulling out militarily. We're no longer sending
money places. He dismantled the CIA money grid through the USAID.
I mean, the first people he got in were at
the CIA and the State Department. I gotta be honest

(32:30):
with you, and I would love your opinion on this.
Marco Rubio has been a fucking star as far as
I'm concerned. I mean, like he was the person I
was least excited about and I thought, you know, oh,
great Marco Rubio at the State Department, like that's gonna
do anything.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
But he's been a complete revelation. As far as I'm
I feel exactly the same way. He has been very
solid in that position. See, here's the thing for every
president ever, they're like, yeah, there's this guy over the
State depart when he's run on the show. Now, well
what does that mean? No, I don't know. Nothing's changed

(33:04):
right now. It seems like people in certain positions are
actually affecting change in their departments, and so it's shocking
to me. It's shocking to me. You might have to
give me another year to take in what's happened, because
it's really been difficult because I've never seen change like this.
The one thing I can say about it is that
you never really knew, or you kind of suspected, but

(33:25):
you never really understood how all the prior presidents going
back to Kennedy really were the same president. They didn't
change anything. The system was the system and nothing. I mean,
you thought there were differences, but there really weren't. Now
the pattern has completely shifted. It has and even though
I can't really figure out everything that's happening. You can
tell it's not the same as it was before, Like

(33:46):
it's a new world.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
It is a new world. And so this brings us
full circle back to JFK because the reason I wanted
to focus on Trump is because I see President Trump
as the air apparent to what could have been under
JFKFK tried and unfortunately failed to change the world in
the way that I see Donald Trump changing the world.
And we could have had this world that we're seeing now,

(34:10):
And you made an allusion to that. You know, things
could have been very different throughout the twentieth century if
Kennedy hadn't been assassinated. So now Donald Trump is implementing
many of the things that Kennedy had hoped to implement,
bringing peace to the world, reaching across the ocean, and
making relationships and strengthening the United States of America so

(34:31):
that we can move ourselves into a much greater future. So,
with your new book on Lee Harvey Oswald, how does
your investigation into Lee Harvey Oswold play into the existing
Kennedy assassination investigation.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
It almost doesn't at all, really, let me explain. So
you have this story and people look at the Kennedy
assassination and all its characters as one big epic story,
and to a degree it is. But I realized something
about the study of Oswald, and the study of Oswald

(35:17):
and the study of the Kennedy assassination have nothing to
do with each other whatsoever. They are two completely perpendicular
stories that just so happened to intersect in that building
on November twenty second, which to me, even saying that
is ironic because I still don't have any evidence to
this day that Lee Harvey Oswald ever stepped foot in

(35:39):
that building, not one single shred of evidence that Oswald
ever worked in that building. So when you really dig
into the individual details of Oswald working in that building,
everything falls apart, every statement of people dealing with him,
their interactions with him, and what you really find is
that there was another man working in that building who
was not Lee Harvey Oswald. But that isn't even the

(36:01):
crazy part of the story. Most researchers haven't even caught
up to that part yet. What I've been focusing on
on Oswald is because Oswald is a mystery. How the
hell do we not know sixty years later if this
guy was an agent or not right.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
How do we not know?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Didn't we get some new information in the recently declassified
JFK files. I mean there was I mean, if I'm
not mistaken, we've had confirmation that he was not only
an asset of the CIA or an employee of some type.
And then of course he was also in some sort
of an employment relationship with the FBI. And obviously there
was a you know, quite a bit about Israel that

(36:36):
had been hidden previously that was just recently revealed. But
nothing new as far as you're concerned with Oswald in
terms of his employment status.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Okay, so this recent document release whatever they're calling it,
the final whatever, which is a big lie to me.
The documents are a red herring in general. Okay, you
want to sell the assassination, We've already got all the goods.
I can make a list right now of ten documents
that crack the entire case wide open that they've been
out there for fifty years and no one talks about him.

Speaker 8 (37:05):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
You know, I have witness statements that put very key
people in places they shouldn't be at certain times, and
then when you finally can reconstruct why those people are there,
you get a bigger picture of what actually happened. That's
how I put David Ferry in Dallas. That's how I
put Jack Valenti on the knoll, That's how I put
a lot of people in certain places because there are

(37:26):
documents to This is the thing I've become really good
at seeing where documents are missing. Right Like you're driving
down a road and all of a sudden you hit
a pothole. It's very obvious there's a piece of road
missing there. It's the exact same thing in research and
Oswald I can tell you right now, like we're missing
like eighty percent of his life. I'd say we have
a chronology that I could tell you all about his chronology.

(37:49):
It's false. The chronology is false. So about let me see.
In the early nineties, it was a guy Kennedy researcher,
his name is John Armstrong, and people had kind of
kicked around the idea for a long time because the
contradictions in the record that there were actually multiple people
who were Lee Harvey Oswald R. And so this notion,

(38:12):
this idea of the multiple Oswald's, has been largely shit
on by the people who claim to be you know,
the big researchers out there like Jefferson Morley and Diugenio
and all these guys who look into the assassination. They
completely ignore this aspect of it because they think it's stupid,
because they don't understand it, and therefore they never going

(38:33):
to get anywhere. But the reality is, going back to
the early nineteen forties when Oswald was an infant, his
mother and her sister, and Oswald's cousin, and the entire
basically the Claveri family, which is the Marguerite Oswald's maiden name,

(38:56):
that side of the family are all connected to intelligence.
And going back to the early forties, I can basically
prove now that Marguerite Oswald had joined the Navy Waves Program,
which is a program for women in the Navy. So
you got to think nineteen forty two rolls around. All
the men go off to war, right, so there's like

(39:17):
a huge number of civilian roles they need filled at
various naval bases.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
So what do they do.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
They create the Navy Waves Program. It's the Women in
the Navy program, And between forty two and forty six
until right after the war, they basically recruited women across
the country to not only do like secretarial type stuff,
but to do actual real spy work, encryption, all kinds
of things. And I've been able to trace a huge

(39:46):
two and a half year gap in Margarite Oswald's life.
I've been able to trace back to the Waves training
center in the Bronx, New York at a time when
she's supposed to be working in Louisiana. So what we
have fundamentally, starting with Oswald's mother around late forty one
through mid forty four, nobody knows where she's living, Nobody

(40:10):
knows where she's working. There's no social Security records because
the ones that we have have been proven to be false.
Nobody knows where she was, Like she just disappeared off
the face of the earth for a two in two
and a half to three year period. This is at
a time when she puts her kids in the orphanage
and basically she really tried to give her kids away
permanently to the orphanage. She's a sociopath. But after she

(40:33):
gets out of this, starting around nineteen forty five, we
start running into I want to say a series of anomalies,
but really it's a NonStop string of anomalies from nineteen
forty five for the sake of this conversation all the
way through the end of when Oswald gets out of
the Marine Corps. And basically what you find is that

(40:56):
the first anomaly. In nineteen forty five, Robert Oswald testifies
with the Warrant Commission that Lee Harvey Oswald and his
mother and her then husband, a guy named Edwin Ekdahl,
they basically go up to Boston. They're there for Christmas,
and they're there for about six months. We can basically
prove this because of photographs that were taken in certain
in places. They went on a trip to Arizona. We

(41:17):
can prove all this at the exact same time. We
have school records showing Lee Harvey Oswald was attending the
Benbrook Common School in starting October thirty first going through
about February or March. So we have clearcut contradiction and
Oswald in two places at once. This is the first
time this happens, and I'm probably up to the I

(41:39):
don't know, twenty or twenty fifth incident of Oswald's history
being contradictory like this worries in two places at once.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
That's wild.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
So it is wild and later on I will show
some pictures, but my work on Kennedy the first go
around was on the assassination itself and everything basically post
Oswald's return from the Soviet Union, and so there is
a lot of Oswald impersonation going on then. But you
can very much show that those impersonations were being done

(42:11):
by William Seymour and Carrie Thornley. And you can find
this by tracing the various patterns of the impersonations and
who they're seen with, and so ultimately the impersonations of
Oswald leading up to the assassination have absolutely nothing to
do with the original and it's called an identity transfer

(42:32):
operation that Oswald and his entire family were involved with.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Explain that, So are you okay? Because this seems to
indicate that the use of Oswald and his family was
essentially ongoing throughout his entire life, almost as if he
was groomed from childhood to be some type of cutout
for an event to take place at later date.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yes, the way I interpret this is it is a
pre Cold War plot to get a spy into the
Soviet Union, which worked.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Right, So the idea is you have a child and
you raise him, and he has a normal life, mostly normal,
goes to school, has school records, everything that can be verified.
At the exact same time, you have another child under
the same name who is given a different education, different schools,
taught to speak Russian, taught about the Russian culture. So

(43:29):
by the time he gets into the Marines, like cause,
nobody on planet Earth can tell you when or where
Oswald learned to speak Russian.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
That's actually something I was going to ask you, because
I've often heard that he was, that he spoke Russian
by the time he got into the military, but I've
never seen because I mean, obviously they were not teaching
Russian in primary school during the Cold War, correct, as
far as I knew. I mean, you know that was
if you spoke Russian, then you were immediately considered as
some type of an outcast or perhaps a communist. Right,

(43:59):
So by the.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Time Oswald gets out of the Marines, he has guys
in the Marines who they would do these like little
variety shows like this entertain themselves, right, and Oswald get
up there and he would read Russian books to them.
And if you can read and speak Russian that well
to where you can just look at a book and
know what is going on there. You've been doing that

(44:21):
for years. Russian is like one of the hardest languages
to learn. And other people said that he was listening
to records, Russian records in the Marines and that's where
he learned it. Not one person can put a Russian
book in his hand, you know, with like a dictionary.
There's no records of him ever, you know, ordering a
class or going to a class. There's literally, all of
a sudden, one day, this guy speaks Russian out of nowhere.

(44:43):
The entire Russian communist thing was started to develop around
between December and March of fifty nine, so it's obvious
that something important happened in Oswald's military in March of
fifty nine. They not only put him through a bunch

(45:04):
of schools, they put him through a bunch of drills
in Yuma, Arizona. They gave him a Russian test, they
gave him his ged like equivalency, so he got his diploma.
All of this happened in like a three week period
in March. Also, at this exact time is when he
sends out his application to the Albert Sweitzer College, which
is in Switzerland. So This is what kind of debunks

(45:25):
the whole idea that he ever was going to have
to leave the military to take care of his mother,
because that's the story he put in for a hardship
discharge and because his mother was in an accident and
he had to go and take care of her. But
he had put in the application to the Albert Sweitzer
School literally six months before the hardship stuff even started

(45:46):
to be initiated. And so then he gets out of
the Marines because of the hardship, gets home and within
a couple of days allegedly dips out and goes on
a boat and goes to the Soviet Union. Right, so
the application timing of the Albert Sweitzer stuff is total proof.
That is, getting out of the Marines when he did
was a total sham.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
So do you think that he was in Switzerland or
did he go to Russia.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
No, he never showed up in Switzerland. Yeah, it was scheduled.
That was scheduled for like the April semester of nineteen
sixty and he never showed up. Here's the weird thing
about the Albert Switzer School. The Albert Sweitzer School was
run by a guy at the time named Perceval Brundage.
Percival Brundage was like a close friend of Bill Donovan,
and he knew Alan Dulles, and he was a full

(46:29):
on CIA agent, and he was actually responsible in the
nineteen sixties later on for owning and operating the what
was the Air America, the cocaine airlines out of South America.
This is the guy who was in charge of the
college that Oswald was allegedly supposed to go to. It
was a false college. It was actually not even a college.
It was it was one room in a gymnasium on

(46:51):
a campus of another college. So it wasn't even a
real school.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
So that would have been covered just for him to
travel abroad, which then would have allow him to slip
into Russia.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Right, So here's the problem that here's the when the
real switcherou takes place. So I'll show you some pictures
here coming up. But ultimately, for the last year or so,
I've been going over literally i think I've read every
single document period on Oswald's life up to fifty nine.
And when you chron chronologically arrange everything, you really start
to see that there were two Oswald's. They screwed up

(47:26):
in the record process, because I can show Oswald being
in two different places at once multiple times. But then
around nineteen fifty six, when Oswald goes off to the
Marine Corps, you have his mother, Marguerite Oswald, who he's
lived with his whole life for the most part, and
her address is the address the primary address of Oswald

(47:47):
all the way up till fifty six. Okay, starting in
fifty six, his mother kind of disappears, really, and the
primary addresses for Oswald in his mother that start to
appear are no longer the addresses of Marguerite Oswald, but

(48:07):
of the imposter Marguerite Oswald. And so I can tell
you I'm probably losing some people as we go. So
the only show some pictures really quickly. Okay, I'm gonna
go over some stuff, and I'm gonna show you the
photographs that we've seen of Oswald have been completely obfuscated
and he's not the person who we're told.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
So so wait, let me ask you this before you
do this. The man that I put on the thumbnail
the official picture of Lee Harvey Oswald, do you think
that's the real Oswald or do you think that's the
insert Oswald.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
That is absolutely one, not the man who was born
Lee Harvey Oswald.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Really, okay, all right, all right, all right, So.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
These are pictures. These are pictures of the really Harvey Oswald.
Some of these you've seen. Some of these are common photos.
Like the top row, most of those are pretty common.
People have seen those. The bottom row most people have
never seen. The picture on the top left is nineteen
fifty three when he's in New York. The next picture
over is in nineteen fifty five at Boregard Junior High School. Okay,

(49:07):
I don't know if you can tell in this picture,
but in this picture he had a tooth knocked out.
He got into a fight. He had a tooth knocked out,
which becomes really important later on because while he's in
the Marines, that prosthetic tooth will fail. He will have
that prosthetic tooth replaced in the Marines. I have the
documentation of that. However, after Oswald was buried and then

(49:28):
dug up for the for when they did his second
autopsy on him years later to make sure it was
the same Oswald, he had two natural front teeth. No shit, yes, wow,
So see, people don't really start to understand what I'm saying,
until you get little facts like this another thing nineteen
forty five. I have documentation Oswald had both of his

(49:50):
tonsils removed, he had tonsilitis. He was treated in the
Marines for a swollen left tonsil. So these little pad
repeat for twenty years of this guy's life. The photo
in the top on the right here, that's Lee Harvey
Oswald in the Civil Air Patrol. That's also nineteen fifty five.

(50:13):
The next photo over is actually June eighteenth, nineteen fifty seven.
He is at a Biloxi and you'll notice he has
a big, fat neck. His neck is like he's just
a big you know, he's an adolescent boy and he's
growing and he's got a big, thick neck. The photo
on the bottom left, that is Lee Harvey Oswald in
at Sugi, Japan in nineteen fifty seven, late fifty seven.

(50:36):
Does that look like the guy who got arrested on
November twenty second?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Not at all, No, it doesn't. I mean vaguely some similarities,
but obviously if you're going to pick a double, you're
gonna have somebody that you know has a couple of
points of commonality. But the neck is or.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Someone that's a brother that nobody knows about. Okay, all right,
that which I have evidence for. So the next picture
is him also at Sugi in nineteen. That's in nineteen
fifty eight, right before he came back. And the next
photo over is September of nineteen fifty nine. And the
photo on the right is the photo on his passport,

(51:10):
that is September nineteen fifty nine. Also, this is clearly
all the same person. This is the same face on
the same guy. Okay, but that is not the guy
who was arrested November twenty. Second, that person actually went
by the name Harvey Oswald. And actually I have at
least a dozen incidents of people reporting that he introduced

(51:32):
himself as Harvey Oswald, not Lee Harvey Oswald. And this
is that man. This photograph here on the upper left,
that's allegedly taken at the Bronx Zoo in July of
nineteen fifty three. When John Pick and I'll go over this,
I have a slide coming up on it. John Pick
is Oswald's half brother. He was shown that picture at

(51:52):
the warrant commission. He refused to identify that boy as
his brother. He said, I don't know who that is Wow.
The next photo is Oswald allegedly at Arlington High School
in Fort Worth. The next two photographs are Oswald in
the Marines and then Oswald in Taiwan, and then the

(52:16):
lower left is Oswald and Minsk, followed by another Oswald
in Minsk. And then you have the August ninth arrest
in New Orleans and then the November twenty second arrest
in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
So go back to the first one I want to
I want to, okay, and then go back to the
next one. Okay, Yeah, this guy's neck is much slimmer.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
It looks like these are Oswald's passport photos from fifty
nine to sixty three. Okay, So these are all supposed
to be the same person. I'm not your I'm not
convinced that. I'm not convinced that the guy in the
middle is either the guy on the to the left.
When you get to Oswald and Russia, which that's going
to be the next after I finished this book, I'm

(53:06):
moving on to Oswald in Russia. From what I've seen,
that is a crazier rabbit hole than any of this
double Oswald stuff that I've touched on so far. There's
like numerous people who could have been impersonating him in Russia,
which is off the charts crazy. So, but there's a
lot of documentation. Look at this, the photograph of the
guy on the right. There's another thing you had to notice,

(53:29):
and it's well documented in the FBI reports of his
description and whatnot. This person on the right the really
Harvey Oswald. His eyes were pale gray, they were very
light blue, pale gray. And Oswald that we know he
didn't have gray eyes. He had very blue eyes. But
that's supposed to be him in Minsk. And then that's
him on the passport photo. It's clearly not the same person.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
The ears are different too, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Everything is different, the eyebrows, the forehead, the hairline, everything.
So this is the Harvey Oswald in the Marines and
Sugi in fifty seven. That doesn't look anything like the
guy who was arrested on the number twenty second. These
photographs are very well documented. They're all in the Warren
Commission report. This is Harvey and the Marines him at

(54:15):
Santa Anna in fifty nine. And all you gotta do
is flip back and forth between the two and see
that that's clearly not the same person. Yeah, when Oswald
actually defected, and it was not Lee Oswald who defected,
It was Harvey Oswald who defected. Okay, this is the
photograph that they put in all the newspapers, a picture

(54:35):
of the real Lee Harvey Oswald, who looks nothing like
the guy who disappeared to the Soviet Union. So all right,
now what I want to show you, and this I'll
get through rather quickly because I have a ton of these.
This is evidence for the official use of the name
Harvey and the Oswald. Now, this person actually did identify
themselves to the people they met in person as Harvey Oswald.

(55:00):
These are the government documents that back all that up.
I've got well over fifty to sixty documents where the
various intelligence agencies are addressing him in their own internal
communications as Harvey Le Oswald. This document on the right here,
this is the employee roster of the Texas school Book Depository.
The name on it is Harvey Lee Oswald. But again

(55:21):
this is CIA Shenanagans. I have no evidence Oswald. Every
step foot in that building. The nineteen fifty one fifty
two consolidated census data and this was in Fort Worth,
has Harvey Oswald on the data, not Lee Oswald, and
it has a wrong birthday of ten, nineteen thirty nine.
This is another pattern that you'll see as you go

(55:43):
through all the documents over time. You'll find that Lee
Harvey Oswald's birthday is October eighteenth of thirty nine. All
the documents associated with Harvey Oswald have a birth date
of October nineteenth of thirty nine, which is extremely strange.
So these are going to breeze through real quick. This
is Harvey. This is thee Harvey Oswald's application to the Marines.

(56:05):
Here you can clearly see the name Harvey Lee was
put in and then erased, and then the Harvey was
typed over it.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Wow, yep was his Well did they change his eye
color too?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yes, yes they did. Here his eyes are hazel. Yeah,
he never had hazel eyes. The real Oswald had light
blue eyes, and Harvey Oswald had blue eyes, regular blue eyes.
So there's Shenanigan's a foot right. When Marguerite Oswald filed
for Lee's dependency discharge, she listed his name as Harvey

(56:40):
Le Oswald. Mm hmm, okay, that's the post that's supposed
to be his mother. She doesn't know the difference then
you have Harold Weisberg. He identified a Defense Intelligence Agency
file on Harvey Lee Oswald. But this goes on and
on for days. All kinds of people who Oswald met
and introduced himself to, all said he introduced himself as Harvey.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I want to hear about Jim Garrison suggesting to.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Jim Garrison, Jim Garrison knew there were two Oswalds. And
basically here in this document he's talking about the various
heights that Oswald is listed at because Oswald, the real Oswald,
when he got out of the Marines, he was measured
at five foot eleven.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Every single document on Oswald since then says he's five
foot nine, okay, And Garrison basically covers this here he
talks about the different ones. He says, medical examination in
September fifty nine in the service, height seventy one inches,
weight one hundred and fifty hair brown, eyes gray. His
build has given his medium rather than slender. This examination
was on his release from active duty. This five foot

(57:45):
eleven marine then went and got a passport in which
is how it still five to eleven. Shows up in
Russia and he's taking pictures with Marina who's a little
girl just over five foot tall, but his pictures do
not show him towering over her as if he would
if it was the same person who'd been in the Marines.
He keeps going on, and he basically acknowledges that the
height discrepancy in the eye color discrepancy is prevalent.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And then the taller Oswald is the gray eyed one,
and the shorter has blue eyes. Yeah, the Oswald who
entered the United States at New York was five foot six. Yes,
couldn't possibly five foot eleven, even allowing for a couple
of it.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Wow, Okay, And here he says the key thing he says,
what's all this mean is anybody's guess. My guess is
that the impersonation started in the Marines. Kerry Thornley said,
Oswald he knew it was about five foot five. So
let's say he knew the Oswald went to the Marines
at five foot eight, but he looked smaller. Bill Boxley
said that the CIA has successfully put over it impersonations

(58:40):
so that even mothers are fooled.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think obviously, even back at this point,
they had some pretty sophisticated makeup technology that they could use.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
So the Harvey of the Oswald is even on the
rush some of the Russian documents. Everybody who knew Oswald
esecially some people in Jack Ruby's circle, which is where
they called him Harvey Lee. I mean, I have, I
swear to God, I just have stacks and stacks of
documents where the government is talking about Harvey Lee Oswald,
not Lee Harvey Oswald. Some of these documents were in
the seventies, like they didn't know the difference ten years later.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I mean, Lee Harvey Oswald is burned into the brain
of every single American.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Right My list just keeps ongoing. It never ends, you know,
even newspapers we're talking about Harvey Lee Oswald. And so
I have one statement I want to read here before
we can get over this, and that's from Peterdale Scott. So,
Peterdale Scott wrote a book on Oswald, and he nailed it.
He figured out exactly what was happening. Well, he didn't
figure out that there were two Oswald's, but this is
what he said about it. In addition, at least one

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of these G two records listed Oswald by a slightly
different name, this alternative name, which eventually was used by
at least four different military intelligence sources was Harvey Lee Oswald.
This Harvey Lee Oswald reference is no accidental anomaly, but
part of an organized pattern widely dispersed that suggests official
intelligence deception and possible dual filing system. So even Peter

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Dale Scott picked up on the fat that they were
all the intelligence agencies knew about and were using the
name Harvey Lee Oswald and really at a minimum as
a dual filing system to keep documents separate from their
primary Kennedy files right right for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
La Foya purposes right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
And so then October nineteen thirty nine, this becomes extremely
important because this birth date is not October. This is
not his birthday. His birthday was the day before. Yet
all the documents we seem to find that are associated
with Harvey Oswald have that October nineteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Here we have one. I noticed that application for his
discharge that his mother filled out. She said she didn't
know his birth date, like what mother doesn't know the
birth date of their child?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
And she also didn't know the name of Oswald's father.
She gave it as John or James Oswald, and then
she gave it as Robert Lee Harvey. So what does
that tell you the person who was in charge of
babysitting this other Oswald, which is a false margarite Oswald,
which I actually have some stunning pictures of. This is

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a pattern that I've been dealing with for the last
year that I keep seeing that I'm start finally starting
to be able to pull apart the threads and be
able to kind of see where things go and where
each of these Oswalds is at any given particular time.
And in doing so, I'm discovering that there are more
potholes than roads, which is frustrating for me because there's

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not much I can do if I don't have more data.
The best places I'm finding data are like on forums,
you know, forums about people who were around back then,
you know, So here we go James or John, you know,
didn't know the father's name ten nineteen thirty nine. This
ten nineteen thirty nine is a pattern that will continue
all throughout Oswald's And here's the crazy part. Oswald's deaths

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certificate October nineteenth, nineteen thirty nine, and that information was
provided by his alleged brother, Robert Oswald, who definitely should
have known better.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yeah, you know, yeah, so you know, just looking just
think about the birth date, because I mean those are
obviously very close to each other one day off, you know,
that could be part of the dual filing system as well,
Like every document related to the nineteenth would be perhaps
the fake Oswald. Every birth date related to the eighteenth
could potentially be the real Oswald, which means that maybe

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the guy who well obviously you said that the person
who was in that box had two natural teeth, So
the death certificate would have the nineteenth on it, which
would be the fake Oswald.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
You got it. You're putting us together really quickly. That's
exactly what I'm coming to. So to touch on the
intelligence community connections to the family, Oswald's cousin was named
Marilyn Morrett and she was basically named in a newspaper
article as having been one of the most wanted defectors
to the Soviet Union or satellite countries. So basically, starting

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in fifty four, Marilyn Morett gets a passport. She then
goes to like every country you're not supposed to go to.
In nineteen fifty four, she goes to like Ukraine or
you know, Soviet Union, in that part of the country,
in that part of the Eastern Bloc. She goes to China,
she goes to Latvia, she goes to all these places,
and she's like, Oh, I'm just traveling as a freelance teacher, right, Yeah.

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So then when I dig into her I actually found documents.
These are brand new. No one's ever seen these before.
Lillian and Marilyn Morett flying to an Air Force base
in Bermuda in September nineteen fifty four.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
So who is Maryland?

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Lilian is Marguerite Oswald's sister, Okay, Sorial Oswald's aunt aunt,
you got it. So, and she lies all through her
warrant commissioned testimony like about everything. I mean, it's the
year nineteen fifty four is specifically important because they come
back from New York and then we have like a
war of where they were living, different people testifying to
them being at different places. And then Lillian Mauret's like, oh,

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I don't know, I just I don't know anything. I'm
just here, you know, like total anti interrogation training in action.
But in Marilyn Marett, she gets her passport, okay, and
between the times she starts traveling to all these weird countries.
She flies to this air Force base with her mother, Okay,
really weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
And then what air force base is this?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
This is in Bermuda. It's called Kinley Air Force Base
in Bermuda. And we were not officially operating in Kinley
Air Force Base in this time. The British were. And
we had like a small outpost there that had something
to do with the military, but it wasn't a full
on base. It really was just a kind of an outpost.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
And so so what else was happening there? I mean,
what other American agencies were stationed there?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Not that I know of, not kill the air Force base,
was it, okay? And so why they went there? I
have no idea. But after Marilyn gets back, she begins
her world tour for like three fucking years, you know,
So is this is clearly this is intelligence activity. Lillian
flew to Cuba in February of nineteen fifty five, and
this never came up in the Warren Commission, not once.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Oh wow, yeah, So why is she flying to Cuba.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
In nineteen fifty five? Doesn't make any sense?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
So the woman on the left here is supposed to
be Lilian or Marilyn Morett. That's actually that's a picture
of Marilyn Morett. That's ye, a real picture of her.
That's just Ruth Payne on the right. She's irrelevant here.
When you go and you look up Marilyn Morett online
in the yearbooks, this is what you find.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Oh my god, that is totally not the same person. Yeah,
not even close.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
So do you see how this rabbit hole starts off
sounding crazy and then when you start to fall into it,
you're like, what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Right, yeah, that's where I'm at. I'm at the what
this ere? I've uncovered four separate identity transfer operations within
the scope of the Kennedy investigation. Four why yeah, so yes, wild.
Oh And here's another thing. I never mentioned this to
anybody before another presentation I did, But Huey Long was
assassinated in like thirty six or something like that, and

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he was ultimately assassinated by his bodyguard. Paul Voitier is
Oswald's uncle, and he was one of the bodyguards. So
Oswald's uncle was one of the assassins of Huey Long.
How fucking crazy is that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna say this, I'll show you
some pictures of Marguerite Oswald, so you can make up
your own mind. But I'm pretty convinced I know who
the false Marguerite actually is, and I believe it's a
woman named Amman the Voittier, who is a cousin of
the real Marguerite Oswald. So that won't be in my
new book, but it'll be in a book down the
line somewhere. So, yeah, they got all kinds of pictures

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from Lee's early life. You know, nothing really special about
any of these, but we start to run into conflicts
in like here we goes to Marguerite Oswald's. So this
is Marguerite Oswald going back to thirty five and thirty seven.
She's a pretty woman. She's not ugly, she's very fair,
she has very nice teeth, she's very well dressed. People

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called her an icon of fashion. She's a cold heartless bitch,
and she ended up cheating on every she ever had.
I doubt that her kids are really the husband's kids
who they say that they are. Yeah, and she wanted
to give her kids to the orphanage permanently in nineteen
forty two. So She's a disgusting, horrible human being, a
perfect person to be picked up by intelligence.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Well, you know, and it seems like people who are
in intelligence, a lot of them end up having extramarital
affairs because by the nature of their work, it's very
possible for them to do so, you know, I mean,
like you know, you know, I can't tell you what
I was doing, honey, because I was working, except I
was out getting laid right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
This is Marguerite Oswald at Paul Schuestoor in Fort Worth
in nineteen fifty seven. Oswald's off in the Marines at
this time. This is about where we start to lose
track of this woman. Okay, this is the woman we're
told is Marguerite Oswald.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Oh that is not the same woman.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Going back to nineteen sixty three years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Go back to the one just before this. Yeah, that
is absolutely three that's I mean, she had about twenty
years put on her in three years, if that would mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Look at it, look at her teeth or teeth are beautiful.
This other woman, I don't have the picture here with
me in this presentation, but her teeth are mangled or
nothing like this. It's a completely different person and when
you go through all the active tracing of events in
Oswald's life, this is the woman who did them all.
This is the woman who got him into school, got
him into the orphanage, you know, went often. Maybe she's
not the one who joined the Waves program. Maybe it

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was the other one. Who the fuck knows. I don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
At this point.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
All I can do is point out the right questions
to ask, because I don't have any answers. So, but yeah,
you know, clearly not the same person whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
And if you're going to present the mother of an assassin,
this seems like the person you would want to put
front and center, right. She looks kind of pathetic in
comparison to the other woman. And yeah, and perhaps somebody
that you could feel sorry for, right, you know, like, oh,
we're not going to put too much pressure on her,
because you know, obviously her son just killed the president
and then he was just murdered. And I mean, look

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at her. She's got a sadness in her eyes. She
looks like she's falling apart right because of him, if
I'm correct, and who I think she is. She spent
a little time in a mental institution. But if you'll
notice she has a distinct mole under her right eye.
I see, And there's not a single photograph of her
on planet Earth without her glasses on. And the woman
on the right never wore glasses. The real Marguerite never

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wore glasses. So I'll tell you a brief little story
going back to nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
So nineteen forty seven, you have Marguerite Oswald's married to
a guy named Edwin Ekdahl, but it's really on the outs.
He's living in his own place in Dallas, and she
has gotten a place in ben Brook as one on
one San Saba is the address. So when you go
through the documents in the warrant Commission, all of them say, well,

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meaning John Pick and Robert Oswald and Marguerite Oswald, they
all say that they lived at one O one San
Saba for two months July and August of nineteen forty eight. Okay,
that was accepted by Kennedy people, as that's just how
it was. She lived there for two months and forty eight. Well,
John Armstrong went and pulled the actual county tax records
and everything they had to do with the assessor's office
and all that stuff. Sure turns out, Marguerite Oswald actually

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bought that house one year prior, and she bought it
under the name Marguerite Ekdahl. So the woman on the
right bought the house at one on one San Saba. However,
when John Armstrong went and tracked down the neighbors of
this woman, they clearly described the woman on the left.
The woman who who John Armstrong spoke to was in
a woman named Georgia Bell. And when Georgia Bell spoke

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to him, she basically said, I don't know who that
woman is on the right. The woman on the left
is exactly how I remember her in nineteen forty seven,
and she tells how Marguerite Oswald lived at one on
one San Saba for about ten months in nineteen forty
seven leading up to Thanksgiving forty seven. So what do
we have here? We have the false Marguerite Oswald living
at one on one San Saba, who knew Georgia Bell,

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who then moves out, and then the real Marguerite Oswald
then lee move in July and August of forty eight. Wow,
the FBI went and changed the statements of two people,
Georgia Bell and a guy named Otis Carlton both of
them testified to the FBI that they knew this false
Marguerite Oswald, but they knew her was Marguerite and that
she was a nurse. And so this is another pattern

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that pops up the woman on the left and Marguerite Oswald,
who we all know in the modern era was a nurse.
That was her trade, but that's not true. There's no
evidence that she ever went to any nursing school ever
at any point in her life at all. And the
woman on the right, who's the real Marguerite Oswald, you
can trace her work history all the way up to
nineteen sixty when she disappears. She disappears in nineteen sixty

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after having had a job in New Orleans at Learners.
But the false Marguerite Oswald is living in Fort Worth
post fifty nine because of the and we know because
of the defection, right, so they between fifty six and
fifty nine, while the Oswald is in the Marines is
when this swaparu occurs and all the primary data moves

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from the woman on the right to the woman on
the left. By the time lead affects to the Soviet Union,
the real Marguerite is out of the picture. Entirely except
for this one photo. This one photo I believe got
sent to John Pick, who was Oswald's brother, and he
brought it forth to the Warren Commission. Other than this
one photo, we don't have a single thing about the

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real Marguerite Oswald post nineteen fifty seven ish.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
And does he present it as if it's his real
mother or did they?

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
They don't ever, you know. So John John Pick is
a whole nother story because John Pick is not in
on the scheme, and he gets out, He moves away
in nineteen fifty and he joins the Coast Guard because
he hates his mother so much. He's like, I gotta
get the fuck out of here. So he's not in
this scheme at all. And so this becomes obvious, and
I have some I'll go back to some earlier slides

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and I'll read some testimony of John Picks from the
Warren Commission, which will absolutely blow you away. Because when
they asked John Pick to talk about his brother and
they showed him pictures, He's like, I don't know who
that is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
M let me see if I can find the brothers.
Are gonna know?

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Yeah, So Albert Jenner is the lawyer. He's talking to
John Pick, and he goes then right below is a
picture of a young man standing in front of an
iron fence, which appears to be probably at a zoo.
Do you recognize that? And John Pick says, sir, from
that picture, I could not recognize that. That's Lee Harvey Oswald,
that young fellow shown here. He doesn't look like you
were recalled Lee in fifty two and fifty three when

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you saw him in New York. No, sir. And then
he goes through a whole bunch of other pictures and
he shows like the picture down below here with Marina,
And what you'll see is that John Pick.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Hold on, hold and go back to the one with
him and Marina. So Marina is five feet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Tall, she's like five foot one or five foot two.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Well even still, this guy to her right is five
foot six, right, So this exactly this is the short Oswald. Correct. God,
how twisted I know, I know this is perfect for Intel, though,
this is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
This is what they're really hiding. H Yes, they're hiding
the assassination. But if they release some of the documents,
it will uncover some of this stuff and then they'll
have to explain.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
This sources and methods, sows.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Sources and methods. How do you explain this to people? Like,
I've been doing this for goddamn almost ten years, and
I still have a hard time explaining this to fucking people.
And I know this like the back of my hand. Wow,
So it's super it's super difficult, and I even get
confused sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
But well, I mean, that's that actually makes so much sense,
because you know, people all over the place, they're like,
what it's it's it's sixty years since Kennedy was assassinated.
Why can't they release this information? Fuck, it's more than
saying but you know, but but you know, so people
are like, everybody's dead, why don't they just tell us
what's going on? Well, I mean, sources and methods is

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always what they go back to, and people assume that
they understand what's happening behind the scenes. But this is
the kind of shit that breaks people's brains, Like the
idea that an operation would be going on for so long,
not even with the intention necessarily of setting up an
assassination patsy, but just with the intention of having an

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asset that they can use and insert into whatever the
operation might be. I mean, like, whoever these people are,
they're obviously they've got to be aware of it. They're
living a lie, you know. And this also goes back
to the sort of meme that's out there of Intel families, right,
you know, like I mean, like you know, parents and

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grandparents who then have children who are involved in this
same shadowy, cloak and dagger world. I mean, if you
need people that are going to be trained from the
time they are born to be assets or agents deployable
at any point in the future with perfect cover, this
is exactly what you're talking about. This reminds me a
lot of Barack Obama's life. I got to look into that,

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but honestly, I don't care for me. I'm after sixty eight,
the world kind of ended for me. So yes, I
mean this is I think we're going to start seeing
a lot more of this because recently I discovered a
guy on substack who put out an article in March.
I forget his name off the top of my head,
but he was a former CIA guy and in this
article he talks about how he was involved, and he

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names it an identity transfer operation, and he actually swapped
identities with a guy who was living in his building
because both of them worked back at the Pentagon, and
the process of assuming this guy's identity had to go
and get approval at the highest levels.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
And then he called the guy and this blew me away.
He called him a quote identity donor, which sounded to
me like this is something in a textbook. To them,
They've got this thing down to a science. Yeah, so
there's a new book out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Hold on Corey. Sorry, guys, the screen froze. Obviously, I'm
engrossed in my conversation with Corey, so I didn't notice,
but I updated it right now you are seeing what
we were talking about, the picture of the fake Oswald
at the zoo, and then the picture of the maybe
a different fake Wald or maybe the same one. Who knows.
I think it's the same one. I think it's the
same one.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
So, and this is great because Albert Jenner asked John Pick.
He says, you notice, did you a material change physically? First,
let's take his physical appearance. He goes, yes, sir, physically,
I noticed that. What did you notice? He was much
thinner than I remembered him. He didn't have as much hair.
Did that arrest your attention? What was the material difference.

(01:17:26):
Did it strike you, Yes, sir, it struck me quite profusely.
What else did you notice about his physical appearance that
arrested your attention? His face features were somewhat different, being
his eyes were maybe set back, you know, like in
these army pictures. They look different than I remembered him.
His face was round. Her Marylyn described him to me
when he went in the Marine Corps having a bull neck.
I didn't notice this at all, and I looked for this.

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I didn't notice this at all, sir. And this picture
here is of him with the bull neck that John
Pick is talking about. Right, And so when he is
actually forced into a situation with this false brother in
Thanksgiving nineteen sixty two, so they're both brought together in
Fort Worth at Robert Oswald's house Thanksgiving sixty two. And

(01:18:09):
I think the reason they thought they could get away
with this was because John Pick had not seen his
brother in ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, obviously after ten years you're
expecting some differences. But right, if you're presented with a
person who is similar but not the same person, it's
perhaps not going to register in the way that it should.

Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
And another thing about John Pick. That shocks me. You
don't hear another word out of this guy ever, ever,
not an interview, not an article, not a peep from
this guy till the day he died. So I always
question stuff like that because Robert Oswald did every goddamn
interview in the world. Robert Oswald was in on this scheme. Well,

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when you go through the addresses and where people were living,
when it becomes brutally obvious. That's starting with the photograph
at the Bronx Zoo. Robert Oswald took that picture at
the Bronx Zoo. He knows that that it's not his brother,
or maybe it is his brother. Maybe it is his brother, because.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
He could be the brother of the double right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Because and this is it sounds stupid and crazy, but
this is the reason the CIA does this. Two words
plausible deniability. You start telling people there's body doubles, and
the CIA goes, you're crazy. Case closed. And that's how
this stuff works. So but Robert Oswald took this photo,

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and then when you trace Robert Oswald's home addresses, you
will find that he stayed with the false Marguerite and
this Harvey Oswald in New Orleans in January fifty four,
and he will live with them at an address on
Colin Wood in Fort Worth when they move back to
the Dallas Fort Worth area. So Robert Oswald is duplicitous

(01:19:50):
in all of this. And so one thing I don't
know how to really integrate into anything is that there
is a lot of evidence that Robert oz used to
be called Lee Oswald. So their father, Robert Edward Lee Oswald,
he always went by Lee even though it was a
middle name. I have some significant evidence that shows that

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Robert Oswald went by Lee all of his life until
Lee was actually born Wow, and then Lee became Lee,
so Robert couldn't be Lee anymore. I don't know how
to fit that psychology into this bigger picture. Because if
my name was Joe and then I had a brother
and all of a sudden he was Joe and I
couldn't be Joe anymore, I'd be a little fucking resentful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
It's an existential crisis right there, right So I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Can't help but think that has some kind of role
to play in here somewhere. But yeah, let me, I'll
stop screenshare if I can figure out how to do it.
Can you kill a screenshare on that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
No, so there should be a little button. Actually, you
know what, I think I might be able to, yeah,
replace current share and uh.

Speaker 6 (01:21:00):
Hang out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I think I have to throw a different desktop window
up here in order to share it, and then I
can hit stop. Okay, go what a cluster. That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Oh it gets worse, man when my book comes out.
So my book is basically that I'm working on, is
not a traditional book, okay. It is a full size
eight and a half by eleven like piece of paper size,
and it's going to contain somewhere around three hundred and
fifty documents and photographs. And this entire case of the

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two Oswalds will be laid out clear as day in
documents and photographs chronologically from the time he's born, starting
with his birth certificate is my first image, going all
the way through when he gets out of the Marines
on September eleventh, nineteen fifty nine. That's when the book
will conclude. It started out, I was only going to
do about two hundred to two hundred and twenty five pages.

(01:21:54):
Well I'm there and I haven't even gotten to the
military stuff yet. So it's going to end up being
like it's going to end up being like four hundred
pages plus four fifty maybe, so it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Is going to be editor or are you your own editor?

Speaker 10 (01:22:06):
No, I have.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
I got my little inner circle who proofreads for me.
So that's good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Yeah, but nobody who's going to force you to hit
that max of two hundred pages?

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
No, not at all.

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
I thought about breaking it up, but that's just not me.
I like being prolific, and so having a big, five
hundred page book out could do me, do me some good.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
I like it, but it's only volume one. Volume two
will be Russia, and then volume three will be Oswald's
time from June sixty two till the end, okay, and
which the end isn't really the end?

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
So if there's two Oswalds and one of them died
on got killed by Jack Ruby, what happened to the
other one?

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Well, that was what I was wondering, you know. I mean, so,
have you have you found anything to indicate that there
may be somebody because I mean, obviously he's not going
to be using the same name, but maybe perhaps some
disinbiguation of it, you know, I mean, so let me
say this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Yeah, in the nineteen sixties and seventies, May Brussels was
like the og Kennedy researcher. She was the best. She
had been getting anonymous donations. She got about ten thousand
over the course of a year or two from an
anonymous source. And she gives a conference and she's leaving
the conference and she goes to her car and she

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stopped in the parking lot by a guy. And the
guy looks at her and goes, hey, do you know
who I am? She goes, she goes, you look like
Lee Harvey Oswald. And this guy gave her the name
of Donald Orestes Norton, and they go to dinner and
they talk for like two hours. And this guy knows
things about Oswald, like Oswald's early life, and he's very

(01:23:43):
but even she said that he was very mysterious. He
wouldn't give straight answers, you know. But he recited some
speech that Oswald gave, like the speech that Oswald gave
when he gets to the Russian embassy in Moscow or
the America. He recited that speech word for word to her,
and so nobody knows. I did a facial recognition on

(01:24:04):
the guy because I have a picture of Donald Norton
to the picture of Oswald taken in fifty nine by
his brother. I got a positive eighty percent match.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
That doesn't mean anything, though, and I'll tell you why,
because the fucking CIA with their body double shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Yeah, they know what.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Metrics are important. Space between the eyes, space between from
the eyes to the tip of the nose, tip of
the nose to the chin. I have no doubts they're
measuring these people for exact measurements, So you're gonna get
identical facial recognition on a lot of these people, even
when they're visibly different, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
So I mean and taking that a little bit further
with the pictures that you do have of those multiple Oswald's,
what type of percentage in commonality are you getting from
those ones?

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Oh, I haven't done them on these long time. I
think I did them a couple of years ago, and
none of them. They were hit or miss I remember.
I think some came up positive, some came up negative.
But I've run a series of photos of Jack Valenti
before and gotten it telling me it's not the same person.
When I knew for a fact it was so facial
recognition is not something that anyone should ever rely on.
It should be like one piece of a one tool

(01:25:09):
in an arsenal, you know what I mean? Yeah, what
about I is well aware of that stuff when they
They're well aware of the metrics when they do the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
I would imagine. I would totally imagine, Oh my gosh, okay, Donald,
can do you have a picture of Donald Arrestus Norton
that you could show us?

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Oh you know something? I think I might hang on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Oh wow, so you know, and I see people already
mentioning it the chat. I mean, this obviously develops the
conversation around the multiple Joe Biden's h just a lot deeper,
brings it to another level, I mean, and it also
kind of underscores a point that I've made in the past. Certainly,

(01:25:50):
it's interesting that you've got multiple people who might be
playing the same character, and I would imagine that Joe
Biden probably was acting as some type of an asset
throughout his career. But at the end of the day,
it also is kind of a moot point, right because
even if you've got one person today that is different

(01:26:10):
from the person from ten years ago, but they're still
living the same life. They've still got this sort of
narrative thread that they have to play out. I mean,
what's the point. I mean, you still have the net
effect of this individual, and so I think, you know,
I mean, the character is obviously very important, but what's
more interesting to me is proving that this is something

(01:26:33):
that happens, right, you know, I mean, like the knowing
that this is a sources and methods type thing, you know,
the inside baseball on spycraft and on cloak and dagger.
I find that to be fascinating. Okay, that's the picture.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Right there, that's Donald arrest snorton and compared to the
picture of Oswald taken by his brother in fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Okay, so I don't know what to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Make of that, because, like I said, the CIA knows
about the distance between the eyes, and all the metrics
that go into facial recognition are things that they were
doing manually before facial recognition, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Well, I mean, I mean, just looking at this, I
think the hairline is spot on. It's interesting that he
covers up the ears so we can't see the tops
of his ears, but the nose, the space between the eyes,
the position of the eyebrows. Uh yeah, this, I mean yeah,
and its possible. Yeah, it is possible. But you know,

(01:27:24):
and and then you got to ask yourself, even if
this isn't Oswald, right, like, why was he sent to
go meet with her like just to with her just
to like just to just to make her her investigation
that much more difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Well you can't put that past the IA either.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
No, you can't. Exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Fascinating. Okay, So what happened to Donald? Arrests Norton? He
eventually died in Florida. Okay, So but but I mean,
I mean no, he didn't have any like you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Well, here's the thing, John Armstrong did an investigation into
this guy. You cannot kill that picture. I can't. For
some reason. It's not letting me do it on this
end all right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
So do you have one monitor of multiple monitors?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
I have multiple?

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Okay, So look on a different monitor and you will
see a very slim little bar with a green share
indication and then a red little tiny button that says
stop there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
So John Armstrong did a deep dive into this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
What does he find?

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
He finds a guy named Donald. The rest is Norton
in Florida. Okay, but he pulls the guy's full biographical
data on him. Turns out that guy wasn't even born
till like forty six or something like that. He was
way too young to have been the real Oswald.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Well assume that doesn't mean information is even correct.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Right, right, but that information, well, Armstrong ends up getting
a hold of the real guy and talks to him.
He refuses to give him a hair sample because he
wanted to do like DNA or something. Sure to let
him take that one picture of him. Yeah, but ultimately
there's a lot of weird things that's around Donald Rrestus Norton,
and that whole situation is probably another identity transfer operation. Yeah,

(01:29:09):
the guy who you look up and find in the
in the in the in the yearbooks as Donald ther
Restus Norton is probably not the guy who was using
Donald ther Restus Norton's identity because Donald the Restis Norton
became an identity donor. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Donald Norton became the donor. So hart Lee Harvey Oswald
picked up the identity of But we don't know. This
is speculation. I wanted to emphasize I don't die on

(01:29:30):
this hill. This is pure speculation, but it's speculation backed
by a certain level of evidence, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
For sure? For sure? Oh man, Oh my mind is blown. Corey.
I absolutely love the depths that you go to on
this stuff. This is so incredible. All right. So we
do have a couple of comments from people out here
in the audience. Surer says they had the Warren Commission
because people weren't buying the lone gunman theory and pushed
the phrase conspiracy theory because people were still not buying it.

(01:30:00):
And then Freya and Boys says, I really want to
know how you know that Johnson was a Jew? If
I find that fascinating and if it's true, I'm interested.
Free Freya.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Oh yeah, his mother was a Jew. It's confirmed, he
grew up going to Jewish schools. It's well documented. And
every penny of our goddamn money from the government he
gave to the Israelis.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Yeah, and he definitely did help with the cover up
of the Liberty incident, which makes no sense if you're
a patriot, Okay. And then heading on over here to
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(01:31:01):
And then filter Dog dropped a let's see, this is
a truth Social post which is from President Trump. Let
me just pull up President Trump's Oh that's my account,
not President Trump real, Donald Trump. Let's see, holy shit,

(01:31:27):
Donald Trump speaking of a Biden double. Donald Trump retruthed
a user on truth Social who posted, there is no
Joe Biden executed in twenty twenty. Biden clones, doubles and
robotic engineered soulless mindless entities are what you see hashtag

(01:31:48):
democrats don't know the difference. And then she was also
reposting a Babylon b article by a user with the
name q on Joe Biden's family worried they're running out
of time to exploit Joe Biden's health. I'm telling you,
we live in bizarre life. Holy shit. Oh my god,

(01:32:11):
I can't believe. I can't believe this is the timeline
that we're living on. I just want to let me
go to Johnny Maga's account real quick and we'll make sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trump just reposted this truth. Hold on, let me pull
this up so you guys can see it. Oh my god,
I don't even know what to say. Oh, it's so funny. Okay,

(01:32:36):
all right, there you go, guys. Donald Trump posting that
Joe Biden is a body double who was executed in
twenty twenty. Oh my god. Even if it's just a troll,
it's still a brilliant, a brilliant move on Donald Trump's behalf.
I can't even believe it. This is incredible stuff. Okay,

(01:32:58):
Oh my god. So you know, I mean, just taking
what you've discovered with the I mean clear evidence of
numerous people impersonating Oswald. It tracks so perfectly with the
Oswald doubles that you've already identified from the time, like
directly before the assassination puts it into a much greater perspective.

(01:33:22):
I mean, you know, at the time, when we were
talking about this previously and you're talking about these various
Oswald doubles, I mean, you know, I was only thinking
about it in the context of the assassination. I mean, like, obviously,
if the CIA wants to set somebody up for the
assassination of the president, then they're going to create a
trail of evidence putting people in the opportune places which

(01:33:44):
will directly tie them into that narrative. But the idea
that they were doing it throughout his entire life, with
perhaps a much broader agenda, really goes to the diabolical
heart of the intelligence community. I wouldn't imagine that the
I is alone in this, right, I mean, I'm sure that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Well, here's the thing. Yeah, the first anomaly, the first
anomaly I found was in nineteen forty five. Where the
fuck was the CIA in forty five? Well, it was
OSS back then, right, Well, not anymore. OSS is disbanded
by mid by mid forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Mid Well, I guess I'm assuming it was pro prior
to that, but well before before.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
The CIA the OSS. There were two intermediary organizations. Okay,
they were more or they were more not they were
more so much intelligence gathering as they were administrative operations
to form the CIA.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
But the one organization no one ever talks about that
goes back to the goddamn eighteen hundreds is the Office
of Naval Intelligence. Yes, yes, yes, okay, so is that
because Weld's mother would have been working for That's exactly
who I think so, And I'm not the only researcher
who has come to that conclusion. Other researchers over the
years came to the very same conclusion that Oswald was
working for Naval Intelligence and infiltrating the CIA. And that's

(01:34:57):
why that was one aspect of why the CIA kill him,
because he wasn't one of theirs. He was naval intelligence,
and he was trying to infiltrate organizations that they were operating, right,
a lot of the New Orleans stuff with the Cubans.
Because Oswald was not directly involved with the Cuban stuff
in New Orleans. He was he was held at a
distance by Kerry Thornley and Clay Shaw, who were his
two handlers in New Orleans. Yeah, so, but I forget

(01:35:19):
what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
So, Judith Vary Baker, do you think she was involved
with the real Lee Harvey Oswald or a fake Lee
Harvey Oswald?

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Because I think she's one of one of the most
full of shit people that's ever talked about Oswald in
our fucking life.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Oh really, do tell?

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Why is that nothing she says has any substantiation whatsoever.
It's like fan fiction. Literally, it's like fan fiction. It's like, well,
that's the only way I can describe it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
I mean, even though you can put her there like
Doctor Mary's Monkey and all that shit, I mean, she
was there.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
Can people put Oswald there?

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Well, I mean I can't put Oswald there, no, no, no,
But I mean he would have been there contemporaneously, right, So,
I mean it's and should think, Well, if you believe
the story that he was like a fucking that he
was a runner, like he was like running this stuff
back and forth from one lab to another, that's the story,
I guess, right, that's what he did or had some
role in it because he was a messenger or he

(01:36:13):
wasn't working in a lab, right, So that's the story there.
And so I mean, clay Shaw is like, you know,
like he's placed there for sure. I mean, like, I
guess the reason that I that I, you know, I
believe it is because you've got all of these ancillary
characters which are operating, and like you can put them there.
So Lee Harvey Oswald as an insert made sense.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
See Oswald, which you have to realize that all virtually
all of the Oswald sightings in New Orleans that we
do not have on film, meaning the interview on TV,
the street corner with their flyers, all the other interactions
I've ever seen of Oswald in New Orleans is clearly
Kerry Thornley and not Oswald. So I don't know how

(01:36:57):
that fits into her story because Oswald this is this
is my take on what happened with Oswald when he
gets back to New Orleans. He's not a superspy. He
was a guy who was a schmuck who got sent
to the Soviet Union just to live there, just to
make the Russians scratch their head on what he's he
doing here? You know what I mean? How many thousands
of pages did it cause the Russians to generate on

(01:37:19):
Lee Harvey Oswald when he didn't do a goddamn thing there, right,
So that was the whole point. He was not a
super spy. He just had to go and shut up
and live and come back. The feeling I get from
Oswald is the same thing in New Orleans. He gets
back to New or first Fort Worth and then New
Orleans later. But the time he spent in New Orleans,
this is where it gets wild. All the things that

(01:37:39):
were supposedly meant to believe that Oswald did that, I say,
he didn't do that. It was really Kerry Thornley. And
he was being impersonated in different places where he talked
about communism and all this stuff. This happens in late
April of nineteen sixty three. So in late April sixty three, Oswald,
who's hanging out with George de Mornshield and the entire
right wing anti communist organizations dad in Fort Worth. The

(01:38:00):
Russians that right, the white Russians who were all anti
communists because they used to live in the Soviet Union, right,
they're hanging out with this fucking communist. Well, all of
a sudden in April sixty three, he has to up
and leave, and he up and goes to New Orleans.
Who else moved at that time, Robert Oswald the exact
same time. The same week that lehard Ve Oswald moves
back to New Orleans, Robert Oswald up and moves to Arkansas.

(01:38:22):
When Lee Oswald moves back to Fort Worth from from
New Orleans, Robert Oswald moved back to Fort Worth the
same week they both left and both moved back the
same week, And so that kind of leads me to
believe that Robert Oswald was involved in some of the
set up. Certainly right he was doing something, he had
to be out of the area so they could clear

(01:38:43):
the area so the impersonation could go forth. Right, who
else traveled at that time, Carrie Thornley. Carrie Thornley and
Oswald have a two week overlap in New Orleans. This
is when they meet, but it's denied by everybody. So
they meet for two weeks. Then Carrie Thornley leaves at
the end of April beginning of May. He travels down
through Mexico to Mexico City, and then he goes up

(01:39:05):
to Whittier, California. While he's in Whittier, California, Why I
don't believe he's there the whole time he's definitely coming
back to New Orleans and setting Oswald up in various
places while he's allegedly and Wittier, but we can confirm
at some point in time in Whittier, California, he meets
up with Warren Reynolds, who's an incidental character witness to
the Tipet shooting. But it was actually connected to all
these right wingers out in California. McIntyre and like the

(01:39:28):
whole group of these, I mean these clan like real
like States Rights Party, they were Nazis basically who these
guys were. And so Carry Thornley hooks up with these
guys when he's out in Wittier, and he hooks up
at Lauren Hall, who was one of the shooters on
the sixth floor. So during the months between April and September,
Carry Thornley moves back to New Orleans when Oswald leaves

(01:39:48):
again with about a two week overlap. Okay, so obviously
Carry Thornley in those two week period on either end
is handling Oswald. But why he can't be in the
same place as Oswald. It's part of the set up
in some way. It had to be to set to
pave the way for impersonations, particularly in Dallas, which is
weird because once Oswald goes back to Fort Worth that's

(01:40:11):
when the impersonations of Oswald go into overdrive. So it's
really odd. It's really odd. Maybe they had to get
carry thrown them out of the picture to make sure
that he wasn't considered a suspect, or it couldn't have
been him and it had to have been Oswald. So
but yeah, but these impersonations that went on before the
assassination and ultimately leading to the assassination itself. One thing
I think they tried to do is I think they

(01:40:31):
tried to close a bunch of loose ends in killing
oz in setting up Oswald and then killing him. I
think they would have closed the book on all of
this tradecraft stuff, but instead it backfired and it kind
of opened Pandora's box. So they were setting up another guy,
Buel Fraser worked in the book depository. When you really
come to grips on all the different name drops of
Buel Fraser throughout the story, turns out they were setting

(01:40:52):
Bill Fraser up as a second Patsy. They even went
as far as to plant Enfield three h three at
his house and arrest him for it that day. Inform
has been squashed from the history books, but nonetheless, he
was arrested that day. If they would have just ended
on Bill Frasier, we wouldn't be sitting here today. Oswald
would just be another background character who worked with the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
There wouldn't be any focus on Oswald at all. Everyone
would be like, why did this teenager shoot the president?
We don't know, and it would have ended right there
by not using Frasier as the patsy. They screw themselves.
I don't know if it's hubris or what it is wild.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Okay, Sir Keith O'Higgins, Oh, fray in the boy says,
post the link, Zach hold on just a second, old,
I gotta get it isolated. Okay, here's the link, freya.

(01:41:51):
There you go, and I'll throw it over here. Unpilled
as well. Motor over on get her says I'm confused.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Welcome to the club.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Oh, and I forgot to update the thumbnail over here,
so let me do that. There you go. Okay, Yeah,
we're not talking about red light therapy that was earlier today.
If that well, yeah, if that's what you were confused about,
there you go, there's the correct thumbnail. I'll throw this
over here on x as well. I see there's like
one hundred and eighty five people over there, but nobody
chats on Twitter because of their streaming setup is totally wonky. Okay,

(01:42:29):
there you go. Freya posted it. Keith O. Higgins says, so, Cory,
the timeline is Kazari and Mafia, then Talmud, then Hurtzel, Zionism,
then will Bill Donovan dead. JFK.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
That's an oversimplification of history.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
It's a condensed version. That's gonna be the cliff notes.
Serder also says, so Oswald's family was doing this all
when the government was recruiting Gestapo with paper clip, who
took over the newly formed European branch of the CIA.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
So that's another thing I forgot to mention. So in
the Kennedy research during the HSCA, I believe it was
they stumbled across a document that originated with the Office
in Naval Intelligence but ended up in a CIA Office
of Security file, and it dated back to nineteen forty one,
involved New Jersey and Nazis and Marguerite Oswald. And that

(01:43:24):
is all that is all we know about it. Wow,
that is it, which to me corresponds with the gap
in her life where I'm thinking she was up in
New York because so she allegedly she gave two addresses
twenty one thirty six Broadway and two to seven Atlantic Avenue.
I don't know about you. I grew up in Brooklyn
until I was about ten, and I knew about Broadway
and Atlantic Avenue being in New York. Well, they investigated

(01:43:48):
them as though they were in New Orleans, and when
they did, they found out that they were bad addresses.
She didn't live there or it wasn't even a good
address in New Orleans and Algiers, Louisiana. But those addresses
are very good in New York, and those addresses are
only The address of twenty one to thirty six Broadway
is only two point one miles from the WAVES Training
center in the Bronx. I was like, holy shit. You know,

(01:44:09):
if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
it's probably a fucking duck.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Absolutely. You have all this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
Obfuscation over New York, and then you know that's where
the WAVES training program Wasn't All the evidence seems to
point that direction.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
So yeah, all right, then RM jimsus over on Rumbles says,
what's wild is that all of this Oswald stuff has
not even touched on the jfk Oswald story. A Balcony
and Redskin are the things that they did, all this
stuff for just a little background for the chat. So
what AE Balcony and Redskin so that those are operational names?

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Yeah, so Jim's my boy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
So ok.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
AE Balcony was a program that was started by the
CIA and ran from fifty nine to sixty two. Okay,
what years was Oswald in the Soviet Union? Fifty nine
to sixty two?

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
The whole idea of AE Balcony was to use naturalized
American citizens, meaning people who weren't born in this country
but this country, who spoke fluent Russian, and then to
send them back to Russia under the guise of various things,
you know, whether going to school or just going to
live or but then they would go there and they
would set up and that fell under A balcony. AE

(01:45:15):
Balcony ended up becoming an umbrella program. And there was
a program before it called Operation Redskin. Red Skin was
using students. They were getting students to get accepted into
schools over there, and then they would use them as spies.
All programs of the CIA had with getting people into
the Soviet Union, not specifically false defector, but just to

(01:45:36):
get him into the Soviet Union for whatever guys. That
all ended up falling under a balcony until sixty two
when the program came to an end. So it's so
funny because the program came to an end allegedly in
June sixty two, the same month that Oswald comes back
from the Soviet Union. So to me, there's one hundred
percent tie in between whatever Oswald was doing and the

(01:45:58):
AE Balcony Redskin program, which governed the large skill operations
in Russia. This zero possibility. The CIA didn't know about
Oswald because his activities fell under Redskin and a Balcony period,
and those were their programs, you know what I mean,
So they had to know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Wow, that's interesting. Well, Fray, you think Trump got hacked.
I don't think. So this is not the first time
that Trump has retweeted something that has, you know, some
deep and shocking meaning. So I don't see that. And
then over here on pilled Valhalla, good Cevel, I have

(01:46:36):
a great guest for you, who is a close friend
of mine and everyone needs to hear her message you
and she's very well known. I will DM you, okay,
send me an email actually, because that's way easier for
me to track than in the DMS red Pill seventy
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it with all of my potential guests. I have a
folder for it. It'll make it much much easier. And

(01:46:58):
then Shanjo, thank you very much for the cookieppreciate it,
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if you don't, then I'm simply glad that you're here
watching Corey and I have this fascinating conversation tonight. Thank
you once more to our friends over at Rumble, all right,
and then Shanjo, thank you again for that last cookie
over there unpilled? All right, Corey so oh, Also, Petty
four twenty nine, thank you so much for the subscription

(01:49:51):
over there on Rumble. Really do appreciate it. And then
Keith O'Higgins, also on Rumble, says, what's Corey's view on
Jim Fetzer's JFK work? Anything new on Ruth Payne?

Speaker 6 (01:50:02):
Roll?

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
So, I have some new directions to look into Ruth Payne,
primarily to see if there was a relationship between her
and a woman named Joyce Morrette, who was actually Lillian
Morette's other daughter. Okay, so we have an interesting here's
another kind of tell that these people are not who
they say they are. Lillian Morrett is testifying before the

(01:50:28):
Warren Commission. She hasn't talked to Marguerite in a while.
She has a daughter named Joyce who's living in Dallas
Fort Worth area. Her husband's name, Joyce's husband is Emil O'Brien.
So she gets a hold of she's talking to Emeil
O'Brien on the phone. She says, Hey, I haven't talked
to Marguerite in a while can you please look her
up in the phone book and get a hold of her.
Emil gets a hold of Marguerite tells Emil about the

(01:50:51):
incident she had where she was hurt, right, the whole
getting Oswald out of the Marines because she's hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Story.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
Well, she relays that story to Lillian, and now Lilian
and is now explaining to the Warren Commission that story
about how she found out about, you know, Marguerite getting hurt,
and Lillian says something extremely telling. She says, I called
her to see if she was okay, or wait, maybe
I called her brother instead. And wait a minute. Number one,

(01:51:19):
Marguerite Oswald doesn't have any brothers. Her two brothers died
in teenage years from Typhus, like twenty thirty years prior.
So there's no brothers. Who what brother is Lillian talking about?
And Lillian is her full sister. So if she's talking
about her sister, why wouldn't she.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
Say her own brother?

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Right, So now we have a clue the woman impersonating
Marguerite Oswald has a living brother, right, Yeah, so that connects.
I have a feeling that this this this communication passed
through Joyce Morrett and her husband, and I have a
feeling that they were. When you look at Joyce Morrett
and you look at Ruth Payne, they're fucking identical. They're

(01:51:57):
fucking identical. And Ruth Payne is not on the up
and up about any thing. So I believe there's a Connectionaire.
I don't know what it is, but that's on my
you know, it's on my path of investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
All right, good to know. Frea says, well, then it's
a holy shit, Zach, that's the ghost signal. Let's go
free Freya. Yeah. I mean I think that it is
pretty pretty incredible that President Trump would share that. So anyways,
you know, he could also, you know, for plausible deniability's sake,
he could also basically be indicating that the Joe Biden

(01:52:30):
who was residing at the White House was of course
not the Joe Biden that people had come to know,
because he had become so debilitated and sick with his
dementia that essentially he was no longer the same person.
I think President Trump is also made that argument previously.
You know, I think he said things like that's not
the same Joe Biden, but you know, then goes on

(01:52:50):
to say he obviously is very sick, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
I really the one thing I'm praying for is that
we get some justice.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
I want to see every single goddamn person in that
last administration rot in a prison cell for the rest
of their lives, hopefully short lives because they'll be convicted
of treason. But our government gave our country away for
four years.

Speaker 6 (01:53:13):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
If anybody out there pays your taxes, still stop, just
fucking stop. Combine what Joe Biden did to us with
Donald Trump coming out and saying our government's been ripping
us off for decades, and that is a thing called
jury nullification. So that's my advice on taxes. Don't fucking
pay him ever again, I.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
Absolutely understand, all right, and that would be it. That's
all the donations. But I do actually need to say
thank you to someone over here in cash app Marty
earlier this week said love your show, Zach, keep slinging truth.
Thank you very much, Marty. And then what looks to
be some leftist who is not a fan of the show,

(01:53:57):
Tay Stove, who appears to be like a six sixteen
year old girl I don't know, is requesting one hundred
dollars from me, and she says it's for the Trump text.
I had another some random guy request five hundred dollars
for me for some business he wanted to start. And
I'm like, I have no idea who you are, dude, Like,
I don't know if people just go through and find

(01:54:18):
like cash apps and then just randomly send requests to
see if people are stupid enough to send them or
if they are just specifically sending it to me because
they know who I am. But either way, Corey, it's
been a fascinating conversation. When is the book out? Please
tell everybody where they'll be able to buy it when
it does come out. And I can't wait to get
a copy.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
It should be out. I mean, I was really, like
I said, I was only playing on doing about two
hundred and twenty five pages and I just hit that
and I'm not even halfway done. So I'm thinking I've
knocked this out in about a month. So I'm thinking
I'll be done in about a month. So figure July August.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Okay, excellent, excellent, looking forward to it, can't wait, obviously,
looking forward to volumes two and three as well.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
My current book of Warning from History is available on Amazon,
and if you want to know who shot Kennedy from
the Grassy Knoll, you can go pick up my book
A Warning from History, all right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
I also suggest that you guys do that as well.
All right. So Corey, any final thoughts for the audience
before we close out.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
You know, Kennedy for me, is the most important event
in American history. To me, it's like a not even
close it's not even a close second event maybe to
American Revolution.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Today we live in very different times, and to understand
what's going on today, you really kind of have to
understand how life was in the sixties when they killed Kennedy.
Kennedy was the turning point for everything. It was when
really we lost our country to a foreign nation that day.
In my opinion, you know, America ended November twenty second,

(01:55:54):
and it's been basically a shell company ever since that's
been doing nothing but intent on its own destruction and
draining all resources from us. You know, it's horrible, it's disgusting,
and it has to end, and it can end. And
I hope that Trump sees what we see and sees
what I see and does takes the right steps to address.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
It, so, you know, it's interesting. I mean, I totally
agree with you, but you kind of look at the
parallels of what private equity companies do with successful corporations.
They come in and they sort of bleed them dry
and part them out until they inevitably have to file
for bankruptcy. And I feel like that was the operation

(01:56:34):
that was taking place here in the United States, you know,
just like bleeding out every industry and all of the
natural resources, all of the money, demoralizing the nation, of
putting more and more of us on dependency welfare programs,
you know, robbing us of entire industries so that people
feel that they have no future, there's nothing left for them.

(01:56:57):
And then eventually they would have been able to part
out to the point where we could be absorbed by
a larger multinational corporation, which would of course be that
global global control grid under the New World Order. But
we're not going to go out without a fight, and
I think that we will be successful in the end.
In Corey, I understand your trepidation, your your your your

(01:57:19):
You're feeling that the rug is going to get pulled
out from under you. But I just I gotta say,
I feel like things are going to be different this time,
and I do think that we are going to get justice.
I think that it's necessary. We must have some sort
of truth and reconciliation for the American people because we've
we've been put under the thumb of other people's interests

(01:57:40):
for far too long, and we are now gradually coming
out of that system. And I do think that we
are going to be living in the Golden Age. I
feel like we're on on the way right now. So
I hope, I hope that that's it, and I hope there.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
Have been some good things, Like I'm really shocked at
some of the great things that Trump has done. Yeah,
so I'm just gonna I'm ain'ting optimistic, I really am.
I just and things are just never the way they seem.

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
People get into office and they have these ideas they
want to change things, and then when they see how
things really operate behind the scenes, they're like, holy shit, Yeah,
if I pull that thread, the whole thing comes apart,
you know. Unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
I feel the same way. I think that that's happened.
I just I just think President Trump has got nothing
to lose at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
He's a one hundred percent, right, yea percent. He's an
old guy. He's how old's eighty?

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Yeah, I mean at least if not, you know, close
to be Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
If I was him, I'd be doing everything like I
was not going to wake up tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:58:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
So, you know, they've already tried to kill him, They've
already tried to bankrupt him, They've already tried to put
him in prison, you know. I mean, at this point,
he's he's in a position of power. The one thing
that I think is frustrating to people is that the
moves and the operational maneuvers that President Trump has made
lends itself to the idea that he's trying to fix

(01:58:57):
the system from within the system without breaking it, like
no grand gestures, not sending the military out into the streets,
you know, not rounding people up. Of course, if that
were to happen and it wasn't successful, he would be
on part with like pole pot or something like that.
And who wants to be remembered as a polepot? Right, Corey?
You know, so I think that President Trump is attempting

(01:59:21):
to fix the nation by the book. Really, that's the
only way that you can put it. But it's a
dangerous game. I mean, these people have I mean they
have infiltrated every level of the government. And that's why
it's so important that we completely clean out the federal government.
I mean, we've got to pair things down. We need
a small federal government, and a lot of this stuff

(01:59:43):
needs to be handed back to the states. And down
here in Florida, Ron De Santis is talking about getting
rid of property taxes. Hallelujah, my god. I think that
it will be necessary because the home owner's market is
tanking down here in Florida. Like people who move during
the plandemic, they you know, their house goes up in

(02:00:03):
value by fifty to one hundred thousand dollars in one year,
and then their property taxes double or triple and they
can't afford to stay. Cost of living is out of control,
insurance is out of control. The best way to alleviate
all of that pressure is to get rid of property taxes,
because then people would have a lot more disposable income
and it would make their their mortgages more affordable. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
I think the biggest problem is that our entire system
needs a restructuring. But that restructuring will cause a ton
of fucking pain in the process, and how do you
restructure and still and how do you restructure and alleviate
the pain that will cause by the restructure? You know
what I mean, Because there's going to be people all
through the cracks. It's inevitable and it sucks. But for
generations moving forward, it has to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
It has to you know. I mean, like, based upon
that argument, people have not found the will to make
that change because you know, the disruption that the system
would be put through is obviously going to be painful.
But what we're experiencing, that slow, gradual blood lighting of
the United States and the gradual degradation of society, has

(02:01:05):
arguably been a lot more painful. And so like you
just got to rip the band aid off. Yeah, you got.
If we're gonna make change, we're gonna have to make change,
and people need to brace for that change, all right,
you guys. I am very very pleased once again to
have been able to invite Corey here tonight. I'm gonna
pass out these gold pills. Make sure you check out
his links in the description below. Make sure you're following

(02:01:26):
him on substack, his website, his podcast, so that you'll
be the first to know when that new book comes out.
I will obviously tell you, guys, because I'll show it
off here and remind you. But Corey, thanks again for
being here, buddy. Really appreciate your appreciate your research, and
I look forward to having you back again in the future.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
Awesome. Thanks man, I appreciate you it, brother.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
We'll see you next time. Bye bye. Yeah, hit the like,

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hit the like button, hit the red pill. Make sure
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Thank you, guys, and seriously make sure you're following Corey
because his research is top notch.

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