Confessions of a Killer - The Kerry Thornley Affidavit - Cory Hughes Bloody History

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning everybody. Corey used Bloody History. Thank you for
tuning in. Let me see housekeeping stuff. New podcast. If
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It is called Morals and Dogma. It's an exploration of
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a bunch of fucking weirdos and they engage in some
nefarious shit. So we got to get to the bottom
of it. So what better place to start that went
their original texts. So that's what we're doing on Morals
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to spend the next It's probably gonna end up being
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through some of the texts. I mean, the text are

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eight hundred pages long. It's going to take a while,
but I'll probably get through the primary texts and like
leave it at that. You know, I'm expecting a couple
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we're talking about. But still, it'll probably be a limited
meaning I'll only do it through my preliminary research unless
it just takes off and people love it, and then

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I'll continue with it. But my goal for it is
to outline in audio form the major text to the
Freemasons so people can understand, because I don't understand. I
think these people are a bunch of fucking weirdos. It's
not definitely not a pro Freemason show at all. It's
so what's wrong with these fucking weirdos show? So tune
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So a couple months ago, I had just set my
audio podcast to like sync to YouTube. I never have
pursued a real serious YouTube channel because they always fucked
me because I talk about the Jews and I talk
about shit they don't want to hear about. So I
get banned from YouTube all the fucking time. But this
show isn't overly controversial too much. We focus more on
the boots on the ground of Kennedy, and so I

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haven't had any censorship. And I've acquired almost nine hundred
subscribers on YouTube, which is weird for a play, and
I really put very little effort into until you know,
last week. So that's good, right, I'm stoked about that.
I'm only one hundred people away from being able to
monetize the YouTube, not that I'm planning on making much
money there. That's one thing about working in Kennedy. Unless

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you're a CIA shill like Jefferson Morley or James D. Eugenio,
you're not getting the big book deals or none of
that stuff, right, So people who do Kennedy research barely
make a living, myself included, so any little bit helps.
That being said, the new book is out Lee Harvey
Oswald and Black and White, Volume one. It's on Amazon.

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It's available on ebook, hardcover, soft covered. Whole thing I wasn't.
It's kind of shocking because it's a very rigid book
and I couldn't do the flexible formatting for the ebook
that I normally would, so I didn't think I'd be
able to get it done. But hey, Amazon used AI
to be able to turn my PDF into an e book,
which I thought was really cool. So that's available. That's

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on like whatever their Kindle unlimited is. Also, I'm still
working on getting the audiobook for a Warning from History
onto audible. The problem isn't any censorship or anything. The
problem is the fucking format that they need the MP
three's and is extremely extremely specific. They need very specific killobytes.
Per second and all the stuff right, and so every

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single time I rework it and submitted, it gets rejected.
So there is an audio expert out there who knows
how to do that kind of stuff. I thought I
was an audio expert. I've been doing audio for the
last fuck since I went to college for audio at
ninety four, you know. So yeah, I thought I knew
what I was doing. But I can't seem to get
this technical stuff right. I'd really like to because then

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I can get it onto like all the you know,
all the various places that Audible gets their audiobooks, which
would be great. But if you want the audiobook, it's
available right now at buy Me a Coffee dot com
slash JFK book. Actually you get the full length wave
files if you buy them from Buying Me a Coffee.

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But let me see what else is there? Is there
anything else? Lee Harvey Oswald and Black and White Volume
two is underway? Oh my god, So let me tell
the story of Lee Harvey Oswald and Black and White
Volume one. Volume one was supposed to encompass Volume one
and two material. It was supposed to encompass his from

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his birth through his time leaving the marine Corps, and
by the time I got done with Oswald's life before
he went to the Marine Corps, I was up to
three hundred pages. So I was like, that's it. I
gotta call it here. I can't put this into one book.
It'll be like six hundred pages. Can't do it. So
then I get started on volume two, which is him

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and the Marines, and I got about ten pages put together.
And in doing my what I call re research, because
I'm just going over things I've already covered in order
to verify my chronologies and all that stuff. In doing that,
I I realized that there's another couple hundred pages of

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statements of people who were in the Marines with Oswald
that I wasn't really including in my formulation in this book.
So thank god, I decided to break volume one off
from volume two because Volume two will end up being
about five hundred pages unto itself, and I'm going to
take a little longer with it. See. Originally I thought

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I'd be able to just breeze through it in like
a month or two, and I could if it would
have been part of the first book, because it would
have been somewhat abbreviated for length. And whatnot. But in
looking at the vast see of materials that I have
just on Oswald and the Marines, I'm anticipating this new
book to take me probably six months, and it'll probably

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be four to five hundred pages long with all the
documents and all the pictures and all the stuff. Right,
it's going to be just like Volume one. But let
me see what is it August. If I can get
that realistically, if I could get that out by the
end of the year, that'd be fantastic. Another thing, I
am now working with a documentary filmmaker who actually has

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already went ahead and made a production of a Warning
from History and documentary form, and so it needs some
revising and some editing and some trimming and rearranging, and
that's what we're doing now. But I plan on having
Warning from History documentary out that realistically will be out
before the end of this year, and it will be
on Amazon Prime, it'll be on two B We have

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accounts with all these distribution places. So yeah, look for
a Warning from History documentary out before the end of
the year. And it's going to remain pretty true to
the book, so that I think is pretty exciting. Anything
else now I think that's about it. So what I
want to do today is I've been discussing this document

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so often recently with various people that I had no
choice but to revisit it. And we just we covered
this document. God, it had to have been well over
a year ago, possibly up to two years. I don't remember.
We did cover this document way back if you scroll
back through the episodes of which I've produced almost three
hundred episodes in just about two years, which I think

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is a pretty fucking killer accomplishment. But we alreadycovered this,
but we covered it a while back, and I feel
the urge to cover it again because Carry Thornley very
important guy shot JD. Tippett, you know, and so keeping
him in the in people's minds is extremely important. And

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as I work my way through volume two of the
Harvey Oswald and Black and White, Carry Thornley is going
to have a good fifteen to twenty page section in
it because he lied about his everything. He lied about
his marine career. He said he didn't go until September
fifty eight and that he was just in the reserves
prior to that, but that's not true. Going back to
like June of fifty six, he was in basic training,

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combat training, he did Triple A training, which I'm discussing
with Diana Thomas right now because I am one of
the impression of Triple A training is amphibious assault, because
I have a slew of evidence that he did amphibious
assault when he was in the Marines. He did a
deployment at Formoso, which is Taiwan, where he did amphibious
assault landings on the beach, and so, but Triple A

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training seems to be something else. And so I'm gonna
get with Diana and we're going to get to the
bottom of that. And but other than that, he was
supposed to be in retraining in the latter half of
nineteen fifty seven. But when you look into when I
looked into retraining, I found nothing. And then stumbling through
the internet on various things about Biloxi, Mississippi, and the

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Keiser Air Force Space, I happen to stumble upon slam
dunk evidence. I would say, just shy of proof, because
I don't I'm not a proof guy. Really, the most
you can ever have as far as proof goes, is
like ninety nine point nine percent, right, So even if
someone pulls a gun out and shoots somebody right in
front of you, and you got it on videotape. I'd
say that's pretty goddamn strong evidence. Ninety nine point nine

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nine nine nine nine, right, So that begins the case.
I have clearly Kerry Thornley in Biloxi at Keser Air
Force BACE in the fall of nineteen fifty seven through
December fifty seven, when he's not supposed to be there.
He's supposed to be in what's called retraining, but actually
he's not even supposed to be an active training until
September fifty eight, right, So he fucking lied about everything.

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And so I feel like absolutely essential to go through
the Carrie Thornley confession letter because that's ultimately what it is.
It's not an it's an affidavit to Jim Garrison that
was written. I thought it was much later in the seventies,
but I guess it was written in like sixty seven
or sixty eight, or I couldn't find it actual date
on it. Maybe one will be stuck in here somewhere,
or we'll be able to deduce when it was actually done.

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But it was important to go over this because well,
Kerrie Thornley is he's just such an important person in
the story and everyone ignores him, and so let's go
over this document one more time. This is, in my opinion,
this is carry Thornley's confession letter to Jim Garrison. My

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name is Caerry Wendall Thornley. I presently reside in Atlanta, Georgia.
My mailing address is Box eight twenty seven, Atlanta, three
h three, Oho one. I'm employed as a part time
student assistant at Georgia State University. In the spring of
nineteen fifty nine, while stationed in Marine Air Control Squadron
nine at an outpost of El Toro Marine based Santa Anna, California,
I became acquainted with another young marine in the same outfit,

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named Lee Harvey Oswald. My Warran Commission testimony relating to
this period can be found in volume eleven of the
twenty six volumes which supplement the Warren Report. In October
of nineteen fifty nine, while serving in Marine Air Control
Squadron Number one at Sugi Naval Air Station at Sugi, Japan,
I read in the newspaper that my former acquaintance, Lie
Oswald had walked into the American Embassy in Moscow, turned

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in his passport and announced his intention of taking up
residence in the Soviet Union. I thereupon decided to write
a novel about a young marine who becomes disillusioned with
the United States as a result of his overseas tour
of duty in the Marine Corps, and in the end
defects to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The title
I chose for the first novel attempt was The Idle Warriors.

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So The Idle Warriors his story on It's kind of
weird because I got a newspaper article from like Jesus
Christ when with nineteen sixty where it's talking about Kerry
Thorny just got out of the Marines and he's promoting
his new book, The Idle Warriors, And it was like,
right when he got out of the fucking Marines immediately,
So he wrote that thing up pretty quickly. Oh yeah,

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we'll get into the Idol. We might just read the
out of Warriors on this fucking show at some point.
Fuck him and whoever owns a copyright? All right, where
did I leave off? During the brief period of time
I had known Oswald, he seemed genuinely disillusioned with the
United States and claimed to believe that the Russians had
a better system. He had just been overseas in Marine

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Air Control Squadron Ie. Now that I was overseas and
serving in the same outfit in which he had served
previous to meeting me, I was also becoming disillusioned with
the United States and coming more and more to feel
that I could understand his apparent defection to the Soviet Union.
As Oswald had been, I became an outspoken critic of
US foreign policy and of the Marine Corps in particular.

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As Oswald had done, I began to disobey orders and
ridicule my military superiors, and as had Oswald, I began
espousing Marxist doctrines. Moreover, I boasted that I was writing
a poor man's Ugly American, which would blow the lid
off the situation resulting from peacetime stationing of troops in
the Far East. So you can't tell, right, this guy's

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completely full of shit, by my suspicions, he was. He
was recruited by the CIA from the Voice of Democracy
contests that he won in high school. Again, I'll say
it anytime. Is anything that has to do with like
freedom or democracy or whatever. It's CIA. No one else
feels the need to use those fucking words. Looking back,
I feel that both Oswald and I must have been

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put under surveillance by the Office of Naval Intelligence during
our periods of active duty in the Marine Corps. See,
that's a confession. That is a confession. That is not
why would he have that suspicion? It's it's complete nonsense.
This is a confession. This is a he's talking to
garrison around him. Okay, do you understand what I'm saying.
He's going to say things like this all throughout this

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when he says, oh, I have a high suspicion that
Naval Intelligence was keeping an eye on Well, of course
they were, because they were both fucking Naval Intelligence, right.
Or maybe Kerry Thorntley was CIA working with Naval Intelligence,
or maybe Naval Intelligence and CIA have a relationship. At
this point, none of us understand which is likely the case.
The cold or was raging. Uh. He was widely regarded

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a communist a year or so before the U two incident.
I began to acquire a similar reputation with the brass
in MACS one from about the time of the U
two incident May sixty, I believe until my discharge in
October of sixty. Seems odd to me that the Office
of Naval Intelligence could find no references to Oswald and
its files in nineteen sixty three, nor any to me

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in nineteen seventy five when I recently made a freedom
of information inquiry. So this is in nineteen seventy five
or later. I think it possible that someone in the
Naval Intelligence bureaucracy may have seen to it such files,
if they ever existed. Well, you got to understand how
to interpret his tone here when he says things like this,
like if they ever existed, he's telling them that they existed,

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were misplaced, or stolen or simply destroyed. I continued work
on the Idle Warriors after I got out of the
Marine Corps. I also continued a close relationship with one
other marine from or MAACS nine MACS one. This man
stru up a friendship with me at a time I
knew Oswald. He's probably talking about Budd Simco. He and
I were then assigned overseas duty together in MACS one,

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where our friendship continued in Marine Air Control Squadron WONED
at SUGI. This individual had the highest security job of
any enlisted man in the outfit. If I had some
kind of intelligence babysitter when I was in the service,
it was almost certainly this man. His name is Bud
Simcoe and his immediate supervisor was Lieutenant Ballantine. Both of

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these names are accurate and correct. I verified them. I
don't have much information on Lieutenant Valentine other than his
name in a list of people who knew Oswald. And
Lieutenant Ballentine is the guy who pulled Buddy Simcoe into
his job, and I covered that. If you go back
and look for my Bud Simco episodes of Buddy History,

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you'll find them talk us all about that. Together. They
maintained the top secret security and classified files for the squadron.
I wish to st that I do not at all
believe mister Simcoe was involved in any illegal activity or
any activities relating directly to John kennedy assassination approach by
a legally constituted authority. I think mister Simcoe would say

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truthfully whether or not he was ever assigned to submit
reports on me. We spend most of our free time together.
The latest phone number I have for Bud is apparently misplaced,
but I obtained it by calling his old place of work,
Vorpal Galleries in San Francisco. If there is difficulty locating him,
I can probably get his number or address from one
of our mutual friends. The hypothesis that I was spied

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on by naval intelligence is not central to my major
hypothesis to be introduced later, but I think it is
something which can be investigated easily, and if established, would
answer some questions which must otherwise remain up in the air.
So the thing that jumps out to me is his tone.
His tone. He goes from you know, I don't know,

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this guy might have been my baby, and then he
goes into the hypothesis I had was spot on my
naval intelligence is not central to my major hypothesis to
be introduced later. So he goes from something not very
well thought out to something very well thought out. That
change in tone tells me that the parts of this
that don't seem that he's like kind of aloof on
are intentionally a loof. From the time of my discharge

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at the end of October nineteen sixty until February of
nineteen sixty one, I lived on my discharge money in
southern California and attempted to promote the opening chapters of
The Idle Warriors and dramatic monologue live presentation form. Bud
got back from in Japan a month after I did
and went to work as an insurance investigator. Another friend
and I decided in early sixty one to go to
New Orleans together and take up residence here. This was

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Greg Hill, who presently resided at fifty five East Houston
Apartment for in New York, New York, and whose phone
is two one two two six sixty five one five.
I really need to do some more digging into Greg Hill.
Kind of incidental, don't really know much about the guy.
Greg and I have arrived in New Orleans on the
day after martigrav of nineteen sixty one. We had a
difficult time finding work. Our living conditions were sparse and harsh.

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I continued work on The Idle Warriors, writing the chapters
in short story form and sending them off to publications
like Playboy in hopes of selling one of them for
two thousand dollars, meanwhile living off French bread from the
day to day Old Bakery. As a handwritten note here,
it says Thornley speaks fluent Spanish, no need for him

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to sta. I can't read with that says interesting. By
this time, my politics had gone through another change. I
had become a Marxist upon seeing my first starving people
with ma acs. One was on maneuvers on the Philippines,

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and I was phasing out of the cores. I read
Anne RAN's Atlas Shrug and decided the world's hungry people
could do best under limited, free enterprise instead of socialism.
Can you start to see how full of shit this
guy is already? He was never a Marxist. All this
fucking Ran shit is all cover my political evolution from

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I like conservatism to liberalism to Marxism to Anne Rand
to individualist anarchism to communist anarchism has been one of
the major sources of misunderstanding about my case all along. Okay,
this guy's not a fucking idiot. When he was in
high school, he was winning science fair competitions, he ran

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he won the Voice of Democracy contest, right. This guy
was a He was a He was a teacher's pet,
kiss ass intellectual. Then he joins the Marines does two
years covertly before September fifty eight, and then he does
two years and does all the av and electronics stuff,

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follows Oswald's footsteps almost to a tee. Then he's with
Oswald and Santa Anna. Right, this is this whole thing
is constructed, This whole story is constructed. So by the
time Greg and I went to New Orleans, I was,
in many respects a right winger. Among other things, I

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bitterly opposed John F. Kennedy and believed that he was
going to ruin the country. February in March and New
Orleans were difficult times for Greg and me. I believe
it was in late March or early April that I
finally managed to get a part time job as a
telephone solicitor at the Foster Awning Company. The fact that
I had a full beard had prevented me, I think,
from getting a job sooner. I see he's throwing out

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hints here the fact that I had a full beard,
because the full beard is the same full beard that
will be seen by Perry Russo at the party in
September sixty three at David Ferries, Right, So he throws
it out there on purpose. He's not stupid. This guy

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is a genius. He is a little Carrie Thornley is
literally a genius, not like a creative genius like you
would think like a Van Goh or nothing or Da Vinci.
But he's a genius in as far as he's a
extremely high probably one hundred and fifty IQ, you know,
and so he knows how to manipulate his own words

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to get whatever point across that he wants. So the
fact that I had a full beard had prevented me,
I think, from getting a job sooner. I had, by
this time, I believe, borrowed money from Greg and drawn
unemployment on my USMC service. For while my politics were capitalists,
my lifestyle and cultural interests were post beat nick bohemian.
I hustled awnings and aluminum sidings over the telephone in
the mornings, and wrote and adventured around the French Quarter

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in the afternoons and evenings. It was probably somewhere in
the early part of April that I met slim Roderick R.
Brooks one day at work. Somehow he was sitting at
a phone desk which I was to take over for
a short while before both of us got off work.
I'm not sure of the exact details, but whatever, these were.

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I wound up sitting at Slim's desk, and I noticed
immediately that he had left some dawdling behind him Japanese
kanji symbols, which I had studied in m acs one overseas.
Turned to Slim and said, Hey, I'm just back from
Japan and I'm writing a novel on peacetime marines in
the Far East. Slim nodded his head, almost as if
in agreement with my statement, smiled at me, and proposed

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that we spend the afternoon together. We went by the
dal Old Bakery and then to Slim's small French Quarter apartment. There,
Slim introduced me to Margaret, a waitress in maybe her
forties who was somewhat of an alcoholic. I think she
and Slim were old friends on a non sexual basis,
and I believe that at this time they were temporarily
living together. If this woman is still alive and can

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be found during the course of an investigation of Slim,
I'm sure she can provide a wealth of valuable information.
In nineteen sixty three, she was working in Fong's Chinese
restaurant on De Cator Street. Slim was a fascinating, colorful figure,
presently he was suffering with a bad case at TB,
but previously he had worked as a seaman, a lumberman,
a US marshall in Alaska, et cetera, etc. We sat

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around his place, drinking cold coffee at a Mason Jars
while he talked about his adventures and I talked about
Anne RAN's objectivism. He expressed his dislike for Jews, polls, Gypsies, homosexuals, Russians, Mexicans,
and so on, with a chuckle, usually, which left me
with room to assume he wasn't really very serious about it,

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and that, of course, was the assumption I preferred to make,
since I really liked Slim a lot, and Gary was
his friend. I think I first met Gary at Slim's
one afternoon. Very quickly. That conversation got around to politics,
and we discovered that we both hated Kennedy or something
to that effect. Slim interjected, I did it. I was
a catalyst. I would not remember the incident at all

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but for Slim's comment. Had that been our only meeting,
I would quickly have forgotten the Gary. That would quickly
have forgotten Gary entirely. By this time, I had another
close friend in the courter. Her name was Ola Hulcom.
She was also an aspiring writer. Ola and I formed
a very close non sexual relationship in a short period
of time, and she became a convert to my einran philosophy.

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I think Slim met Ola through me, and Gary met
her through Slim. By some time in May, it looked
as if Gary and Ola were going to hit it
off together. So I reconstruct events because Slim and Gary
and Ola all dropped by to visit us on the
Memorial Day weekend, probably Sunday afternoon. I believe Ola was
present on this occasion, but I'm not absolutely certain. In

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any case, very soon after, if not by then, she
and Gary had a thing going. I do remember a
couple of things very clearly about this visit. I recall
Gary sitting there sort of leaning back on a chair
with his hands behind his head, smiling and looking at
the typewriter sitting on the desk in the living room
of the apartment. I also recall Gary making some kind

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of remark about being or knowing a fence for stolen goods.
I think he mentioned a pawn shop on Canal Street
by name where the guy was willing to purchase things
that were stolen on Memorial Day, the typewriter and Olympia
was stolen while Greg and I were out. It was
our habit to leave the door unlocked. We knew almost
no one in the city at this time. Our apartment

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was on the second or third floor. It seemed the
time to both Greg and me that it was very
logical possibility that Gary Kirston had taken the typewriter. In retrospect,
I believe strongly this is exactly what happened. I believe
that Gary mentioned the fence on Canal Street for two reasons. One,
I think he knew the guy, and if I had
gone in there looking for it, Gary would then know
I suspected him. Two, I think Gary wanted me to

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conclude that if he did steal the typewriter, his motives
were economic rather than political. It's important to realize I
already typed some of the short story versions of the
Idle Warrior chapters on this typewriter. These manuscripts I was
to give away later, possibly to Slim, after I reworked
him into a novel manuscript. In other words, it is
probable that Gary Kirsten had in his possession for an

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indefinite period, one of the typewriters on which portions of
the Idle Warriors, which he probably also got hold of,
were typed. I have some xeroxes of letters I wrote
during this period of time in which I talk about Slim.
I also have many other memories which I will be
glad to provide when and if that becomes necessary, including

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the names of one or two other witnesses who knew Slim. Then.
Instead of plunging into detail now, let me simply say
that Slim took me under his wing and made me
feel at home in New Orleans around the middle of April,
Greg and I moved into an apartment in the French
quarter on Saint Louis on April seventeenth, which was my
twenty third birthday. And also I realized recently, the day

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of the Bay of Pigs invasion, Slim, who was also
once a ship's barber, gave me a haircut. Speaking of
the Bay of Pigs invasion, there is one detail about
Slim which I had better mention here because I'm almost
sure now that it is significant. Slim claimed that his
hobby was navigation, and he had a great number of
Federal navigational charts rolled and stacked in a pile in
his apartment. Most of these, as I recall, or those

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I saw, were of the Caribbean area. Slim never voiced
strong political opinions, but I believe in retrospect that he
was working with the anti Castro Cuban groups then functioning
in Louisiana. I think he was probably a navigational advisor
on the Bay of Pigs invasion. I also think our
meeting at the Foster Awning Company may not have been
a chance meeting, but that Slim may have been assigned

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to intercept me and babysit me because I was writing
a book on Lee Harvey Oswald, who, for one of
many possible reasons, may have been of great interest to
elements within the intelligence community at that time. All right,
so do you see how the difference between Carrie Thornley's
testimony before the clay Shaw Grand Jury and how he's

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just an innocent guide't know nothing right. But now he's
connecting himself to all kinds of people. He's connecting himself
to the intelligence community. This is a confession, ladies and gentlemen.
This is not This is not just some incoherent ramblings.
This is very specific and very well thought out information
he's providing to Jim Garrison later the nineteen seventy five.

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So what does that mean. It means it's years and
years and years after the clay Shaw trial. It's long
after anyone's going to do a goddamn thing about anything.
He could have said here. He could have written in
this thing that he shot John Kennedy from the Grassy
Knoll and all that what it would happen was maybe
a redaction. Right. He knew he could tell Garrison. He
respected Garrison, He knew Garrison knew what was going on,

(28:33):
and he wanted Garrison to know something. But he couldn't
tell him things at a time that would lead to
his potential incarceration or persecution by Jim Garrison. Right, That's
what this is. This is Carry Thorny's fifty page confession letter.

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It was shortly after Greg and I moved to the
Quarter from the slums of the Irish Channel that Slim
introduced me to Gary Kirsten, who he said was his
brother in law, just in from Kansas City. Slim warned
me in advance that Gary was something of a weasel,
a sly, shady character who lived on the fringes of
the criminal world. Gary didn't look like a criminal at all.
He dressed very straight. He wore neatly pressed slacks and

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short sleeved shirts. If anything, he dressed like an off
duty policeman. He was an older man, perhaps in his forties,
certainly at least in his thirties. He had brown hair
and was balding, was a medium build and height, smoked
a pipe, and spoken what was at a time almost
a whine, except his words were clipped and precise. His
accent was Midwestern. One of the first things I learned
about Gary was that he also hated Kennedy, but for

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somewhat different political reasons. In mine, Gary said he was
raised in a Germanic Midwestern family, and that he was
a Nazi. He and Slim used to joke about this,
and also about Gary's alleged skills at Burglary. Gary was
keenly intelligent and had a flippant, light hearted air about him. Therefore,
even though the content of his humor was offensive that

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Gary did not seem for real. He never sounded angry,
for example, but he cheerfully recounted the little jokes the
Nazis had played on the Jews and many other victims
of their prejudice. It was also a typical of Gary's
grim sense of humor about his own pro war philosophy
to steal something that was to be used to advance
his political ideals on Memorial Day. For example, One of

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the other memories I have of Gary concerns his attitude
towards the anti war song which Joan Bias I think
popularized at the time, called where Have all the Flowers Gone?
They had been picked by young maidens to decorate the
graves of young soldiers who had been killed in the wars,
and the song contains of off repeated refrain when will
they ever learn? Gary's comment, I liked that song, haha.

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One day, Slim and Gary and I went to the
drug store at the corner of Canal Street and Camp Street.
We went in and sat at the counter in order
to eat or have a coffee. Gary excused himself, saying
with a smile that he had an erin to run
and that he would rejoin us shortly. At that time,
I was not aware that the officers of Guy Banister,
later named by Jim Garrison as a suspect in the

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JFK assassination and not widely known to have been a
friend of Howard Hunt and a coordinator of anti Castro
or other intelligence activities in that area. We immediately were
immediately adjacent to the drug store. While Gary was gone,
Where Have All the Flowers Gone? Was either played on
the jukebox or Slim simply pointed to it on the
selector there in front of us and said, brother in

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law likes that song, only he has a different way
of thinking about it than most people do. I replied, yeah,
I know. I do not remember how I knew, but
Gary had mentioned it earlier in some connection or other,
possibly as it was playing on his car radio. It
was probably in junior July of nineteen sixty one that
I met Jessica Luck, a nineteen year old philosophy major

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at Tulane University. Jessica and I were to have a romantic, passionate,
and stormy relationship for the next year or two. At
some point, Jessica and Slim and Gary and I drove
out to Jefferson Parish to look for some land which
Gary had purchased along Jefferson Highway. Meanwhile, Gary was living
with Ola in a ground floor apartment in the French Quarter.
According to what Greg and I had been told, he

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was working for Anheuser Busch. He was also painting in
his spare time, and he frequently mentioned that Hitler had
been a painter and had been unfairly criticized because his
paintings were too realistic. I simply that's actually very true.
It's completely true Hitler. His paintings were absolutely stunning. I
simply have no tag in my memories of Gary to

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and indicate to me when it was that he was
working for Papa Joe Conforto, a Bourbon Street nightclub owner
with many sons who helped out in the business. It
could have been before he went to work at Bush,
it could have been moonlighting while he was at Bush, or,
as seems most logical, it could have been after he
quit at Bush. But for a time he did work

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for Papa Joe doing what I do not recall if
I ever knew. I hope any scholar of this statement
will take the thought to realize that these events took
place as far back fourteen years ago, and will also
take the trouble to verify that I have an excellent
long term memory. That's funny, especially for ideas being discussed.

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Things which struck me as important at the time, I
recall clearly things which struck me as important A few
years later I recall less quickly, but in many instances
quite vividly, though in others not generally. Things have only
struck me as important recently have been the most difficult
to dig up. I'm not unaware of the impact my
words may have. I do not seek to distort reality,

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but to discover it. For the sake of my own sanity,
as well as for the political well being of the
rest of humanity. I wish to cause harm to no one,
not through what I say, nor through what I fail
to say, knowing it to be true. Sometime in nineteen
sixty one, Gary's house on the land he showed us
was built, and he moved from the French Quarter to
the Jefferson Parish. In earlier writings I stated Gary lived

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in Kenner. That is an error. A letter I wrote
on New Year's Day of sixty two indicates that Gary's
land and house were in Jefferson Parish. Huh Kenner, Okay, Okay,
Hang on a second, here's a new possible dimensions thinking
outside the box here. In earlier writings he stated that

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Gary lived in Kenner. Why is Kenner important? Kenner is
important because Kenner is one of those places that David
Ferry claims that he went on his Alibi trip, right,
which he never went on. The whole Albi story is bullshit,
but he mentions Kenner particularly, Why did he stop in Kenner?

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Did they go eat there in Kenner? I know they
went to Marion, James Mary and James Johnson's roadhouse. Well,
they never went there, but that's the story, right, that's
the story. But the fact that he said that they
lived in Kenner and now he's changing it to Jefferson
Parish this I'm sensing that there's some relevance here because
I don't know why he would have added Kenner to

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the story. Very interesting, very interesting. In the middle of
summer nineteen sixty one, I went to work full time
at the American Photocopy Equipment Company in Kenner. Not too
long after that, Greg returned to California and I moved
into a housekeeping apartment on Napoleon Avenue, just around the
corner from Jessica's family home. She lived with her parents.
It was about this time at the only interaction with

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Gary occurred to which I am still unable to attribute
retroactively any significance. I attempted to obtain some abortion causing
pills through Gary. Slim and Gary took me from one
place to another for hours. I do not vividly recall
where we all went. It was for coffee here and
erin there, in a car, to a house by the
lake there, and finally we drove to a remote spot
under a tree out in the country. I still do

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not know why. All this time, though Slim had informed
Gary in advance what I wanted, Gary had said nothing
about the pills. Once we reached our isolated rural destination,
the three of us got out of the car and
hunched down under the big tree. Gary then graphically explained
how such pills work by poisoning the woman's body so
as the to reject the fetus, and told me the
location of a drug store where a dishonest druggist would

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sell them to me without a prescription. I silently decided
against obtaining new pills because they sounded so dangerous. Finally
I had finished the most of the idle Warriors. First
of the two drafts I gave to the Warren Commission
and hired a young lady by the name of Joyce
Tally to type it. Now, if Joyce Tally was Cia,
that would explain a lot, but I doubt if she

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was Otherwise. She was really a student at LSU New
Orleans in Martin mccauliffe's English class. Joyce introduced me to
her professor, saying that she had told him about my
book and he was interested in meeting me. At the

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time I knew him only as Martin. It was in
nineteen sixty eight that a member of Jim Garrison's staff
told me his full name. Martin, to the best of
my memory, had brown hair and a pockmark face. We
spent part of an evening Martin, Joyce and Jessica and
I sitting in the Bourbon House in the French Quarter
talking about writing in general and the Idle Warriors in particular.

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At some point shortly thereafter, Martin arranged to meet me
in the Bourbon House again. This time he was with
a friend of his, Guy Banister, who was introduced to
me as a man with a great interest in literature. Again,
we discussed my novel. The only detail from this discussion
I remember was that Banister was very favorably impressed when
I told him that my writing was influenced in part
by Sherwood Anderson. Okay, so so here we go. We

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have more confession, right, we have more confession. He's telling
Jim Garrison that he was directly connected to Guy Banister
through Martin mcauoff, who's clearly a fucking CIA agent, and
that it was him and who was a Joyce Tally
and Jessica Locke all met, and that he and that
we're gonna get to it. I'm not going to spill
the beans here, but I think I've talked about this before.

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So Guy Banister will then a lavish praise upon him
for his book, The Idol Warriors, which is fucking hilarious.
So let me continue one more time. After that, I
met with Martin in the Bourbon House. This time, for
the first time in our conversations, I had some of
the chapters from The Idle Warrior with me for Martin
to read. Those present this time were Martin, Jusica, and me.

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Martin read one of the chapters one windy night and
became very upset to find that it had a political message.
In it. It became even more upset when I explained
to him at the overall message of the entire book.
He said that people should not clutter up literature with
their half baked political ideas. He was quite emphatic and
even emotional on this score, as if the way I
was writing my book was really a professional affront to
him of some sort. I chanced to see Martin in

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the Bourbon House, which was then kind of central clearinghouse
for French quarter social life, a couple of times after that,
but we never sat together and talked again. I'm not
sure the significance of this information except that it indicates
that guy Banister was interested enough in my books on
Oswald to spend a while discussing it with me, and
that therefore, by the autumn of nightnineteen sixty one, the

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CIA knew I was writing a book on Lee Oswald,
who was still in Russia. If they did not know sooner, Hello, Hello,
ladies and gentlemen. I don't know how much more emphasis
I need to put on the fact this letter is
a confession. Let me reread this sentence. I'm not sure

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of the significance of the above information, except that it
indicates that Guy Bannis was interested enough in my book
on Oswald to spend a while discussing it with me,
and that therefore, by the autumn of nineteen sixty one,
the CIA knew I was writing a book on Lee Oswald,
who was still in Russia. If they did not know sooner, Wow,

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I really fucking hope that all of you can seriously
understand how absolutely fucking earth shattering this sentence is. This
is unfucking believable. This is confession. Why did he write

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this letter to Jim Garrison is affidavit in nineteen seventy
five or after, long after the case was over. Why
Because it's a confession. That's why. Someone who will remember
Joyce and Martin is Victor Charles Latham, who was a
close friend of mine in New Orleans and who was
still living in the New Orleans area in nineteen sixty eight.

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In December of nineteen sixty one, a weekend of that month,
Gary took Jessica and Slim and me riding in a
black car. I'd never paid much attention to cars, and
I did not notice the make, but it was an
expensive automobile, and I believe the windows rolled up and
down when the driver pushed a button. That's funny. I
believe on Saturday the four of us went for a

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ride in the country and may have stopped somewhere and
had a picnic under the tree, possibly even the same
tree that figured in the abortion pill up. And I
believe it was on a Sunday that Gary and Slim
and I went out to Gary's house, and I think
this was my first visit there since had been completed
by the builders. It was definitely on that Saturday night.
As we were pulling up in front of Slim's place

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after our ride in the black car, Gary said, if
I were to choose a political name, it would be Smith,
because Smith forges things. At this point, Slim butted in, saying, yeah,
I like checks, for example. Gary, Jessica and I laughed
before Slim made his joke, though Gary had seemed quite
earnest and intent on what he was saying. What had
led up to it was a discussion of meanings the

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names of various Russian Communist leaders. Now I believe, but
I'm not totally certain that It was also on this
weekend that Gary began talking about a book that he
he was going to write for which he said the
working title was Hitler was a Good Guy. Each chapter
was going to fictionally portray what would have happened if
one of the other Nazi leaders had gotten into power

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instead of Hitler, and it was going to be backed
up with quotations from their writings. In conjunction with this,
Gary also discussed his theory that the secret to Hitler's
power was that he had no power. Gary said that
Hitler had no branch of the military, no police unit,
no government bureaucracy, no union in, no criminal organization under
his personal and direct control, and that it was for
this reason that those who did have such organizations under

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their control trusted him, whereas they did not trust each other.
Hilary said was a compromise. Candidate. I think we discussed
this idea for a book most of the day that's Saturday,
and all afternoon that Sunday. On Sunday, at some point
during our conversation, Gary said that Hitler had made one
very stupid mistake. He'd gone public instead of becoming an

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orator and a holder of government office. Gary said Hitler
should have lived the life outwardly of an ordinary German
citizen and should have governed through his powerful friends, such
as a relatively anonymous position in society. Gary asked me
if I would do research for him, and I believe
he paid me about ten dollars for this research. It

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consisted of me going to the New Orleans Public Library
locating books on Nazi leaders other than Hitler and writing
down their more atrocious ideas. I then gave these notes
to Gary and heard little, if anything about the book
after that. I now speculate that these notes were used
in conjunction with the Olympia Typewriter, upon which I had
typed some of the Idle Warriors to produce a manuscript

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under my byline, which would be useful at a later date,
probably in nineteen sixty eight, for incriminating me. I do
not know that any such manuscript ever came to the
attention of Jim Garrison or Warren Report critic Harold Wiseberg,
but it should be fairly easy to question him and
find out. Both Garrison and Wisburg have been convinced since
nineteen sixty eight that I'm some kind of fascist. So

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this is really interesting, So got to take into consideration.
Kerry Thorning, for no reason at all, tells Jim Garrison
a story about how he had a typewriter that he
typed some of the Idle Warriors on and that he
believes at at some point that the typewriter was stolen
by with these guys who he's hanging out with, right,
and he believes the guys are can to intelligence, naval intelligence.
He says they're involved with the Bay of Pigs, and

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he says he gets sent to the library to take
out books on Nazi leaders. Right. This is how you
create a patsy, isn't it. This is how you would
create a patsy. I guarantee this kind of stuff was
what they did with Oswald, and Kerry Thornley was directly
involved with that because Kerry Thorntley was staying into boarding houses.
The boarding house is where they found the diary and
all that other stuff. So yeah, I mean all the

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things that all the things that he's saying that Gary
might have done to him, he was involved within the
doing to Oswald. Is this more double triple whammy confession?
It could be. It could be. It would take much
more analysis on my part to come to a conclusion there.
But this is incredible stuff, incredible, Like, this is why

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I say this and the Frank Selona document are like
two of the most important Kennedy documents of all time.
I mean, straight up of all time. I'm not reading
any of these notes here in the margins. There's a
ton here. I highly recommend everybody go and dig this up.
It's archive dot org and it's the carry Thornley document

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in the third of three, I should say, it's the
one hundred and fifty nine page one. You guys can
go look all that stuff up for yourself. Checking the
records of the New Orleans Public Library might aid in
establishing the precise date that I checked out books on
Nazis before, during, or shortly after Christmas. Slim said to me,
I've got a Christmas present for you. You have ridden
in Carlos Marcello's car. He was making reference to the

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black car Gary had been driving on above described weekend.
Slim explained that Gary knew some of the Marcellos. Ah,
here we go again, connecting himself to the Marcellos. Right,
he was making reference to the black car Gary had
been driving he talked about earlier that he went for
a ride and a picnic in right. Slim explained that

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Gary knew some of the Marcellos. So now we have
Kerry Thorny connecting himself directly to the Marcellos. On another
occasion later on on, Slim mentioned to me that Gary
was cultivating the friendship of Carlos Mars Marcello. At best
I am able to reconstruct. It was probably sometime during
the summer of sixty two that Jessica and I were

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invited to a party at David Ferry's house. And now
he's conecting himself to David Ferry, right, So the circle's complete. Right,
he's connecting himself to every single person. He's connected to
Oswald and his handler's Bud Simcoe, Lieutenant Ballentine, then Gary Kirsten,
and Slim and Martin mccauliffe. Whether he doesn't mention here,
we might mention it at some point. But he goes

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and he works for Kent Courtney, who was a right
wing propagandist funded by the CIA. Do you see what
this document is. This is a confession. He's confessing that
he's connected to Naval Intelligence through the statement about he's
surprised that Naval intelligen says they don't have a file
on him, right, bullshit? Right? So This leads me to
believe that I don't understand the relationship between Naval Intelligence
and CIA, because for all intent purposes, Kerry Thorny should

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be Naval Intelligence. But it's pretty seemingly obvious that he's
connected to CIA through all this crazy shit and the
Robert Antel Wilson stuff and the Voice of Democracy contest.
So I don't understand this relationship that CIA and Naval
Intelligence have going back to the nineteen fifties. Okay, let's
put that on my number one to do list, and
I have a feeling when we dig into that we'll

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come across this Freemason shit. Also the Scottish Rite stuff. Right,
this is all seemingly one entity behind the scenes. So
all right, so now he's connecting himself to David Ferry.
I'm still not sure the event had any significance, but
someone Jessica knew at school I believe invited us to

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this party. The only reason I finally did remember it
was because someone made a joke about the party being
hosted by a homosexual airline pilot named Faery. I was
introduced to Ferry and we shook hands. I'm nearly sure
no significant conversation transpired. I can describe the house if
need be, and give some details about what happened that evening.
It would seem more while to check with Jessica, who

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probably still lives in New Orleans with her parents on
Ferret Street on the right, just before you reach Napoleon
Avenue coming from town, and find out who it was
that they invited us to that party, and whether or
not they knew Kirsten or any other principles. I think
it was also during the summer of nineteen sixty two
that I saw Margaret on the bus one day. She
was no longer living with Slim, and by then whoever

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it was, I clearly recall her telling me that Slim
had an evil side to his nature and that I
should beware of him. On other occasions, Slim himself told
me the same thing, in these words, sometimes I like
to go out and just be a son of a
bitch evil. Slim used to also say from time to time,
now there is something you had better keep in mind

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about brother in law. He really is evil. I mean it,
he don't mess around, and he is evil. I invariably
brush aside these warnings. I also recall Slim once saying
to me, never lie unless you have to, and then
make that son of a bitch stick. One afternoon, Slim
and I were sitting around in his apartment, and he

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said to me, don't forget brother in law's last name.
It's spelt Kirsten. He's a good man to know, Gary Kirston.
He spelled it k I r st e I n.
Remember that you might need to call him someday. The
last thing I wanted to believe was that Slim's shady
brother in law would be anyone whose name I would
ever need to know for any reason. So I promptly

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disregarded the advice to remember the spelling of his name,
forgetting the entire incident until recently. And then here's Jim
Garrison's nose at the bottom. Now Thornley has met Ferry
as well as Banister, and it's only the summer of
nineteen sixty two. With an exclamation, yeah, ultra significant and
completely ignored by everybody. None of the sightings of Oswald

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at five point forty four Camp Street or Oswald, none,
They were all Kerry Thornley one hundred percent. Meanwhile, the
focus of my own attention was in areas that had
progressively less and less to do with Slim and nothing
to do with Gary. Quite a while before going to
work for the American Photocopy Equipment Company, I had shaved
off my beard. Towards the end of nineteen sixty one,

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I moved from one place on Napoleon Avenue to another
one just down the street. On the twenty ninth of
January nineteen sixty two, I was laid off the job
an American Photocopy. In the weeks it followed, I had
another difficult period economically. I took a job that didn't
work out, I took temporary work, and I finally got
a job as a shoe salesman at Marx Isaac's department
store for the whole shoe company. This job I kept

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until whatever it was that Lee Oswald returned to the
US from the USSR during the time I was working
at Marx Isaacs, or shortly before I moved from the
rooming house on Napoleon Avenue to a place on Barrack
Street in the French Quarter. Sometime in Earth's early spring
of nineteen sixty two, Jessica and I broke up for
all practical purposes, though we dated from time to time

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afterwards and tried to get it back together. I think
David Ferries party was one of these occasions. In the
autumn of sixty two, after another spate of temporary jobs
and semi starvation, I got a job as a bus
boy and then as a waiter at the Sheridan Charles Hotel.
About the same time, I found a small room for
twenty dollars a month at the corner of Royal and

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Dumain in the Quarter. I cannot ascertain exactly when it
was that Gary and I discussed assassinating President John F. Kennedy,
but it must have been at least several months after
the weekend of riding in Carlos Marcello's car to have
would have been seen before I left town for a
visit to California in early May of nineteen sixty three.

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I would guess that it was either late in nineteen
sixty two or early nineteen sixty three. Anyhow, one day
Slim said to me, let's go spend some time with
brother in law Sunday, possibly Saturday. I agreed, and Slim
and Gary and I would get together out at Gary's
house next weekend. At some point during the conversation, Gary said, Carrie,
how would you go about assassinating Kennedy? I immediately obliged

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him with a very gory murder suggestion. Gary did not
accept or reject the comment on this idea, but simply
gave Slim an extremely pleased significant look. The suggestion I
made was someone had made to me at some earlier time.
I speculate that it could have been made by someone
working for Gary, an anti Castro soldier of fortune passing

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through the Bourbon House, for example, But I'm not sure
where I heard it. But now I'm pretty sure that
Gary was taping this session, and in its main purpose
was to set me up for future incrimination should that
become necessary. The conversation went on along the same pattern
of Gary asking me for assassination ideas and supplying them
for a short while until I ran out of ideas.
And when that happened, Gary quipped, in his typically cheerful manner,

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and next we'll get Martin Luther King, and then he
has notes at the bottom. I vigorously opposed the idea
of killing King. I recall only two of the suggestions
I made. The first involved the method of poisoning with
a chemical that would blow his stomach apart, and another
involved the use of a remote control model aeroplane or
rocket with a bomb on it. Damn Carrie Thornley, a

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fucking drone pilot all the way back then. Hilarious. Gary's
response was, as best I recall, pretty much the same
each time, no comment to speak of, just a smile
in Slim's direction. At one point, Slim interjected, remember what
I told you about brother in law carry, don't forget
his name. He's a good man to know. Briefly, Gary
and I discussed his name, how to spell it, what

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it meant in German, and the meaning of another German name, Steinkoff,
a man who'd been in m ACS nine back when
I knew Oswald. Another thing Gary asked me at one
point was what I thought of bringing Jimmy Hoffe into
this thing. I said, I thought it would be a
good idea, that Haffa was being persecuted by Robert Kennedy,
and that I thought he was a good man. I'm

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trying to read these notes here. It says standard false.
Can't read that word spo something sponsor line false, sponsor line.
I think it was also during this discussion that I
asked Gary what he had done during the war. He
made the statement more than once, and I think it
was about the second or third time that he and

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other Midwesterners of German background had been sent to the
Pacific theater out of fear they would collaborate with the
Germans if sent to Europe. I believe, but I'm not
absolutely certain. That Gary told me he was in naval
intelligence and that he spent his time on a ship
in the Pacific, possibly on Guam, monitoring radio broadcasts. So
here we go another inference of naval intelligence. These discussions

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definitely took place after the UN had sent Congolese troops
into Katanga, because that was also one of these things
we talked about as good reason for hating Kennedy. Another point,
Gary said, I think a good form of government would
be one where each interest group elected representatives, each industry,
each union, and so on, outlining the fascist corporate state.
Finally asking don't you think that would be a good

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former government? I said yes, And then remember that Gary
told me once before that this was fascism, which I
certainly did not think was a good former government. But
by that time Gary was smiling smugly as if extremely
satisfied with getting me to make that particular answer to
that particular question, and so I let it pass. During
most of these discussions, I had been sitting by the
door or squattering in the center of the room, and

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Gary had been sitting at the end of the room
at the opposite door on a sofa. Slim, who said
very little the whole time, was sitting to my right
and Gary's left on one side of the room. Finally,
there came a time when I had a definite feeling
the discussion was over. I couldn't figure it out. Gary
and Slim had been acting very odd, saying little, giving
one another significant look, smiling at what seemed to me

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inappropriate moments some of the time. For a moment or
two now and then I would get the idea that
they were really serious about all this. Then one of
the other of them would say something or would fail
to comment, and I would get the idea that they
were just playing games. I think I probably wondered whether
or not Gary had maybe the bet Slim that I
would be enthusiastic about killing Kennedy, hence to suggest the

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significant smiles and failure to develop any of my suggests
and then we have a note at the bottom, which
is where we'll wrap it up for today. Carry Thornley
has a typed asterisk and he says, I think Slim
sanitized the incident by telling me it was the result
of a bet a few days later. And then Jim

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Garrison has a circle around sanitized with an arrow, and
it says one hundred percent intelligence community phrase absolutely not
generally known exclamation, exclamation, And that is correct. That is
one hundred percent correct. Because Kerry Thornley was CIA, probably
had some involvement with naval intelligence due to his IS

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marine background, the fact that he followed Oswald all over
and Oswald sure shit was naval intelligence. So this, ladies
and gentlemen, if you want to get to the background,
the real ins and outs of the handling of Oswald,
it's through Kerrie Thornley and his connections with Bud Simcoe
and Lieutenant Balentine and a whole slow people in G
two Marine. And so all the people looking about CIA

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handling of Wilswald like, go fuck yourself, You're not gonna
find it. You're never gonna find it. You're gonna find
it in Naval intelligence. And it's going to be all
tied in with Carry Thornley and the people we just
covered today. This document continues on for a while. It's
fifty pages in all, and I don't think I'm gonna
continue on with it because I already covered this in
previous episodes. So if you're very interested in this document,
number one, go read the document. It's at archive dot

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orger the Jim Garrison Collection, and I have about it.
I don't know a dozen episodes on Kerry Thornley, maybe more.
Go back and listen to all the Carry Thornley episodes
and that will continue this document and some of the
more things. And the next thing he doesn't here is
he connects himself to Leopaldo, who is Lawrence Howard. So,
but that's gonna do it for me today. Guys. Hey,
if you haven't picked up my book, please go to

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Amazon pick my book up. It is out. You can
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I don't really fucking give a shit about promotion through
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and I will be back probably tomorrow with more thank

(58:08):
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