The JFK Files with Cory Hughes Live at Liberty on the Rocks Denver July 16, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're about to get started.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Corey Hughes, He's been on many podcasts, he hosts a
few podcasts. He's written a book which he has several
copies of. You all better buy it tonight we're talking
about RFK and GfK. So give it up for Corey Hughes.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Is this thing on all right? Why don't I feel
like a comedian all of a sudden. My name is
Corey Hughes. I'm a full time Kennedy researcher. I've been
on Kennedy since July of twenty eighteen. I think that's
seven years.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
At this point.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It is still the one thing that gets me out
of bed in the morning, and it is the last
thing I think about before I go to bed every night.
I just finished a second book yesterday. Actually it's in
the proof reading phase. Hopefully it'll be out in the
next couple of days, called Lee Harvey Oswald in Black
and White, Volume one. It's the first of a four
volume set on the life of Lee Harvey Oswald. So recently,

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there's been a lot of talk in the news about
the Kennedy assassination and files and the allure that the
government is actually going to confess to us after all
these years that they murdered John F.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
How many people here actually believe that the documents are
ever going to show that the government killed Kennedy.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah nobody. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
What I'm gonna tell you tonight is that we don't
need any more documents all of the documents that we
already have. Of the five million plus. Out of those
five million pages of documents, you will find amongst them
a couple hundred pages that tell the real tale. The
real tale starts in New Orleans. Well, that's what we'll

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focus on tonight for the most part, because when I
talk about Kennedy, everyone wants to know who the shooters were.
That's always the big question. And here we are sixty
years into not knowing. There have been thousands of books written,
and none of them give you any more answers than
you had before you read the book.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Very frustrating.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
How many books out there are called Kennedy Assassination Solved, and.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yet you didn't get any answers from reading it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
The assassination, if you want to talk about big picture,
started way before Kennedy ever was elected. And when I
say that, I mean Kennedy's ideology. He was at the time,
basically by the majority right wing population of America, considered
to be a communist just because he wanted to be

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friendly with Chrus Jeff. He wanted to denuclearize the world,
and I think that is a great that was a
great goal at the time. However, you have elements within
the CIA, and you have elements within the United States mafia,
and you have elements within the Israeli Massad, which felt

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that Kennedy's actions were too great of change for the day.
In particular, let's talk about Israel. You know, when I
go and I give a talk or I do a podcast,
very often I'm called an anti semit which is kind
of hilarious because I'm just a historian and I just
report the facts. But the facts tell me that the

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person who greened that the assassination was David Ben Gurion,
the Prime Minister of Israel. In May of nineteen sixty three,
there was a series of letters exchanged between Kennedy and
David Ben Gurion, which ultimately resulted in Ben Gurion's stepping down.
He was replaced by Levi Eshkol. Kennedy basically wanted to

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get inspectors into the Demona nuclear reactor, which everyone in
the world knew about because Time magazine didn't expose on
it in nineteen sixty. Starting in nineteen sixty from the
minute or sixty one when Kennedy really got into office,
his main priority was Israel and the bomb and getting
inspectors into Demona, denuclearizing the world, and ultimately that is

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what got him killed. Now to understand that, you have
to understand that the relationships between the Israelis and the
United States mafia go back to nineteen forty five, nineteen
forty six. Nineteen forty six, David Bengurien sends a guy
named Ruben Daphne.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
It was an emissary of the Haganah.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Which was a pre Israeli terrorist organization, and he meets
with Bugsy Siegel in Los Angeles. This kicked off a
lifelong relationship between the United States mafia, which was not
run by Italians.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
It was run by Mayor Lanski, who was a Polish Jew.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
The relationship between the Jews and the Italians was one
of the Italians ran the local mafia and the Jews
ran the international syndicate. Mayor Lanski formed relationships with everybody,
the triad, you name it, the Corsican mafia. He built
the international drug trade really going back before the CIA,

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and it was his relationships with a guy named Tibor
Rose and a bank called the Bank Decritti Internationale, which
facilitated all of the drug dealing, the money laundering, and
it also facilitated all of Israel's international transactions for the
first two or three years. Understanding the relationships between the Israelis,

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the mafia, and the CIA, and from the CIA, you
have other branches of government that were involved, Defense, Intelligence Agency,
Secret Service, but those three organizations are one organization. In
nineteen sixty three, after Ruben Daphne meets with Bugsy, Siegel
informs that relationship, David and Guringen formed a personal relationship

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with Mara Lansky.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
And from.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Nineteen, let's say forty six, all the way through the
mid sixties, the CIA used people like David Ferry Gordon
of Well, Sergey R.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Kaca, people who are.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Connected to the Kennedy assassination to break into numerous bunkers
and armories across the country to steal our World War
two surplus. This would go down to become known as
the Sonborne Institute. Rudolph Sonborne was a rich oil guy
American trader to his country partner Would Ben Gurion to
form the Sonbourne Institute. That operation lasted way past Kennedy's death. Now,

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all of those Armory break ins were always attributed to
funding of anti Castro Cuban operations, which is one of
the biggest red herrings in all of the Kennedy assassination research.
All of the money and all the arms that were
supposed to go to the Cubans for their uprising against Castro,

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they never got there because all of them were deflected
through a company called inter armcoh in Virginia run by
the CIA and sent to Israel the Palestinians. So all
of these actions from the forties to the sixties leading
up to the assassination of Kennedy, it kind of broadened

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my perspective on the twentieth century. When you if you
really want to understand the twentieth century, you have to
understand the story of the twentieth century is the story
of Israel, and it began in eighteen ninety six with
Theodore Hertzel and the birth of political Zionism in Basil, Switzerland.
The First zion Is Congress eighteen ninety seven. Regardless of

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what you're told in the zeitgeist today, the propaganda story
that Zionism is a it's for the Jewish people to have,
you know, be in control of their own destiny, that's
a lie. Zionism is and has always been a plot
to take over the world, and every single major event

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of the twentieth century is directly connected to either the
formation of Israel, the maintenance of Israel, or the promotion
of the Greater Israel project, which is exactly what.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
We're seeing in the Middle East today.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So I don't normally talk about Trump or the modern
era because I feel like everything was lost with Kennedy
by sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
The world ended for me.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Once you take out Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King,
the playing field was just wiped out. There was nothing left.
There was no resistance left. I like to think Trump
is some level of resistance, but he's proving not to be.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
So.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
When you come to understand the story of the twentieth
century being the story of Israel, their involvement in the
assassination itself becomes brutally obvious. The motivations become obvious Demona
and their nuclear program they felt was essential to their existence.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
It was a it was a.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Struggle with Kennedy for their own survival. That's how they
saw it. Now, how does that connect to anybody in
daily Plaza? So by my calculations, there were nine people
in place with rifles. They found no less than six
rifles and Daly Plaza that day three mausers, the Carcano,

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a Remington, a Johnson three to three, and then they
took an Enfield three oh three off of Buell Fraser,
who was the man who allegedly drove Oswald to work
that day.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
But to connect them to the.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Larger scale operation is actually rather fairly simple. There was
a company called Permandex that never conducted any known business.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It was a who's who of spooks and mafia and
x Nazis and criminals of all sorts. On the board
of directors of.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
This company was Alan Dulles, James Angleton clay Shaw, who
was the focus of the Jim Garrison trial in nineteen
sixty seven in New Orleans, the only trial ever brought
for the conspiracy to kill John Kennedy. The connection between
all these organizations, the Mafia, the CIA, the massad Is

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through Permandex. Permandex's r in a sub company called Central
Moundiac Commercial, which was run out of Montreal, run by
a guy.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Named Lewis Bloomfield.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Lewis Bloomfield happened to be a lawyer for Edmund de Rothschild,
but I don't really get into Rothchild conspiracies personally. So
once you have the money funneling down from Permandex to CMC,
I think that Permandex is kind of like the oversight
board the orders dreamed that from David Bengurien.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
At the time of the assassination.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Three weeks before the assassination, monocham began and Yitzak Shamir,
who would go on to be Prime Ministers of Israel,
were kicking it in Los Angeles that had become their
second home base. You see, after the bombing of the
King David Hotel in forty six, they had to basically
get the hell out of town and they set up
shop in Los Angeles. And so by nineteen sixty three

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you have what ten fifteen years of relationship between these
what were the pre Israeli Zionists who then became the
Israelis who you could now say in sixty three or
certainly Masad Oh know another fact most people don't know yet,
zach Rabin flew into Dallas the night before.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
It was written about in his wife's memoirs.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
So I can't place Schumir and Monock and began in
Daley Plaza. But from what I can tell, everyone was there.
There was a somewhat.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Degree of ritual to it. They all had to see
for themselves.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
When you go through the photographs in Daily Plaza, you'll
clearly find David Morales, Ted Shackley, George Joannitas, who's been
in the news lately. But let me get back to
connecting the shooters to the bigger picture. Through this company Permandix.
Clay Shaw is the main character of the story in
New Orleans. Surrounding clay Shaw as David Ferry and Sergei

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Arcaca Emilio Sentan names that pop up in the New
Orleans story when you dig into it. A lot of
the names are featured in the Oliver Stone film JFK.
I don't know if any of you have seen that.
It's an excellent film. It is complete propaganda, but it
is an excellent film. Nonetheless, I've probably seen it twenty times.
It is this group in New Orleans that is largely

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responsible for the shooting itself. And we know this because
of the testimony of a guy named Perry Russo during.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
The trial of clay Shaw.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
He tells a story about being at a party where
he identifies Oswald and a couple Cubans and David Ferry
and clay Shaw. They're all there, they're talking about killing
the president. Well, turns out it was never Oswald there.
Oswald to Patsy, Oswald is not involved in any of
the activities leading up to the assassination whatsoever. He was
sitting in the movie theater eating popcorn getting arrested. Probably
don't evenother president was killed. But this New Orleans crew,

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the connection through clay Shaw leads directly to Israel. And
when you dig into the facts and circumstances surrounding what
happened in Daily Plaza that day, I can't even put
Lee Harvey Oswald inside that building at all, that day
at all. On November twenty second, the entire story of
Oswald falls apart from the jump. So the story goes

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Buel Fraser gave Oswald a ride to work, and that
Oswald walked in the back door, carrying a package under
his arm so that it fit neatly under his armpit.
That story was debunked by guy named Ed Shields who
testified to the HSCA, which is the House Committee on
Assassinations in the seventies.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
That story never happened. That he got out of.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
His car and there was nobody with him. He dropped
off his rider at the front of the building. So
that story goes away. Every interaction of Oswald inside the
book depository that day either didn't happen, was an exaggeration
or a fabrication. And I'm sure most people here have
heard about the Oswald the second floor in the lunch
room drinking a coke story. So allegedly Oswald couldn't have

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shot the president because he couldn't have made it down
the stairs in ninety seconds to drink a coke to
be busted by Officer Baker and Roy Truley on the
second floor. But that old story never happened. It was
a fabrication. That incident actually happened with the person wearing
a light brown jacket, and it happened on the stairwell
between the third and fourth floor, and there was no
Coke involved. The reason that they fabricated that entire story

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was to cover for the fact that they made an
arrest at the exact same time in front of the
book depository and arrest of a man named Emilio Santana.
Emelia Santana was one of two anti Castro Cubans along
with Sergei Arcacia, who had been reported is on their
way to Dallas to shoot the president on November twentieth.

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November twentieth, a woman named Rose Chermi is in. She's
kind of roughed up and thrown out of a bar.
Cops get involved, They bring her to the hospital. On
the way to the hospital, she tells Francis Frooge, lieutenant
for the Louisiana State Police, they're on their way to
Dallas and they're gonna kill Kennedy. Nobody takes her seriously.
She's strung out on heroin, probably drunk. Definitely a prostitute.

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And back then, if you were a prostitute, you had
no credibility, like Jim Garrison, Like Kevin Costner said, is
Jim Garrison in the film? Why is it that when
a woman's a prostitute she has to have bad eyesight?
So but she reports clearly that the two men with
her were on their way to Dallas. And the reason
I bring this up is because we already have all

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the information on this. When you go through all the
documents that we currently have, you can piece together every
single person in what I call the cast of characters.
You can map out all their actions. You can tell
who is important by the amount of documents missing on
that person. Emilio Santana shoot her at the dal text building.

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This I was able to put together by the descripts
of Oswald that were called out over the police radio,
which didn't match Oswald at the time. But Amelia Santana
arrested clearly, and the photograph Willis ten shows his arrest.
There's no video, but still photograph shows a man being
taken into custody and they're.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Taking a rifle off him.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
So when I say that we already have enough information
to know exactly what happened, we do the I want
to give you an example of recent news in regards
to George Joan Niedas So. George Jonias is a very
important person. He was the head of psychological warfare for
the CIA's JM wave station, which is JAM Wave was

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the largest CIA domestic station operating in America. It ran
somewhere around thirty thousand agents, and you know, the CIA
is not supposed to operate in America, so completely illegal operation.
The jam Wave station employed George Joe Naedis, who in
the summer of sixty three was in New Orleans. We've

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already known he's been in New Orleans, You've known that
for years. We recently find out that he used the
alias of a man named Howard Gebler. Howard Gebler was
connected to the Friends of Democratic Cuba, but so was
a guy named David Atli Phillips. So this has been
all the big news lately on Kennedy, Like the CIA

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is telling us something. They're confirming their connections to Kennedy
by telling us about George Joan Needas and how he
used an alias and was connected to this group. But
the problem with all of this stuff is that it's
all red herrings. It doesn't matter at all. The group
that they're talking about, the Friends of Democratic Cuba, was
run by a guy named David Adlie Phillips who never

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made it to New Orleans. They put this stuff out
as though it's meaningful news, but when you really dig
into it, it means nothing. There is no connection whatsoever
between George Joan needas Lee, Harvey Oswald, or any of
the operations going on in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
But that's not what the news. What have you believed today?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
The News is attempting to do some kind of soft
disclosure that the CIA was connected to Oswald, but they're
doing it in a manner that is blatantly false and disprovable.
So I don't trust anything in regards to any of
the documents they've given us. The only document they've given
us recently that has had anybody surprised was the fact

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that they had hid all the references to the Israeli
Secret Intelligence Service that was redacted in the original documents,
and that was unredacted. But once again they tell us
something we already know. So you have to be really
dubious of everything they tell us. All these new documents
that they're giving us are really worth us. When you
go through, god, the last four or five releases, going

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back to like twenty seventeen, probably thirty thousand pages of documents,
there's nothing in there. They fill it with stuff on Cuba,
which is irrelevant. Mexico City which is irrelevant. A lot
of the Russia stuff might be relevant. I can't tell
you yet, But in as far as the document releases
and what they're telling us, they're completely worthless. Does anybody

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have any questions about anything before I talk about anything else?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
No questions. I can elaborate on whatever from there.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Questions, Okay, I'll do the first question, all right. So
I've seen a lot of talk online lately that a
lot of people now believe that Jeffrey Epstein was probably
back by Masade. I don't see the same level of
talk that people think that JFK was killed by the Massad.
Do you see that changing? And if that changes, what
do you think might happen?

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well, the propaganda machine that would counter that information is
already in full effect. Right, We've seen the propaganda machine
like crazy lately in regards to is Is this sanctimonious
state and whatnot. But I think that's a huge part

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of what they're hiding is relationships to Israel. When you
really get into the mafia documents, the relationship between Mayor Lansky,
Bugsy Siegel, Mickey Cohen. I mean, all these big mobsters
were Jews, and they all had direct relationships with the
heads of Israel. You know that I think is a

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lot of what they're hiding because that information only comes out,
you know, rare book here or there, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
If you ask me.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Ultimately, Israel killed Kennedy and took over our country that day,
and we've been in Israeli.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Colony ever since.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
And that's why no matter who gets in office, it's
always about them, everything has to go through Apack, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
So they have their hands in everything.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Every single horrific event in the twentieth century, Hell and
even cod I was all done by Israel one hundred percent.
So World War One, World War two, Vietnam, Korea, God
I could go on and on, all instigated by them.
COVID nineteen was manufactured by Ralph Barrick at the University

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of North Carolina Chapel Hill, and his funding came from
Beth Israel Research Hospital, which is a research wing of
the Massad.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
So I've heard it proposed that you've seen a lot
of Massad agents leave the agency after a couple of years,
start companies that are then used by both Massad and
the CIA. You know, how much separation or how much
are the CIA and Massad joined together.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
That's a great question. I don't think there is a separation.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
So one example, it's not CI, it's NSA, and I
think this is kind of something that happens frequently. An
essay worked on stucks Net with Israel and then whatever
their team eighty two hundred or whatever they're called. It
was mostly made by the NSA, though Stuck's Net was
a virus design specifically to infiltrate the air gapped computers

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in Iran and basically fry their.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Refinement systems. And it worked. It totally worked. It was brilliant,
it was genius.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
But the NSA developed that and they gave it to
the Israelis with some parameters. This is the conditions under
which you can use and add some rules, and the
Israelis just threw that shit right out the window, and
they modified the virus and they did everything they wanted to.
And that's exactly what they do with everything we give them.
We give them our fighter jets, and we give them
military technology.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
And what do they do.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
They strip it down and they sell it to the Chinese.
You know, they're not an ally, They've never been an ally.
They murdered our president. They're the most disgusting, vile nation
state that's ever existed.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
I'd compare them to the Hunts. So the answer the question.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I was I was curious to get on your opinion
on do you do you think that Teter Hurts had
that original thing in mind? Or do you think that
the message has change with the time, because, for instance,
I can I totally buy the idea, you know, man,
I can begin he liked to bomb things and was

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completely not he liked Chabatinski and whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
But I can't.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I could see the argument that's not what the guy
wanted at the beginning. And then you know, the messages precipitated.
So what do you think happened? Do you think that's
a reasonable or no, I would say that's reasonable. However,
there are things that Hurtzel. See, Hurtzel was he was psychotic,
he was crazy. He ended updying in a mental institution
in the age of forty two. So he had communicated

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with another guy named Hirsh who had set up a
Jewish colony in our Argentina fifteen thousand strong. And he
communicates back and forth with him, kind of feel him
out and see how can we do this bigger and
in their communications.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's basically said, this is how you do it. You
get a small colony, you get a foothold, whether you
buy it or however, through trade or whatever, and then
you slowly gradually expand until you take over the whole nation.
So he talked about that specifically, long before any Zionist
activity was enacted, So you can say in one hand

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that it was not what it is today. But at
the same time, there was underhandedness, and there was He
wrote about everything being kept secret, right, so if something
is good, why do you have to keep it a secret?
The Diaries of Hurtzel, it's the fascinating read. It's a
glimpse into the mind of a madman, and his basic

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principles are what are being enacted today. For the most part,
I would say that the people who are Zionists today
hide behind a Jewish front, and they're not.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
They're just not.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's Zionism's contradictory to the Orthodox texts. You know, that's
why ten percent of Jews, the Orthodox despises Zionists. You know,
it's a bastardization of an ideology that really was founded
on discrimination in the first place.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
So maybe you're going to come to this. But I've
been to Dealey Plaza and having seen the documentary, everything's
a rich men's trick.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I know the guy who made that the nicest guy
in the world.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Okay, And looking at the storm drain where purportedly there
was a rifleman hearing that the limousine driver actually stopped,
which the CIA cut out of the Zippruder film, and

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then there was a Japanese apparently film clip of the
driver who supposedly was an LBJ guy, turning and firing
over his shoulder.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
William Breer, Okay.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Uh, and uh, I'm just curious, like, would would you
say that those were the kill shots?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Absolutely not No, so all right, thank you that I
know exactly what you're talking about. That what appears to
be him turning around and shooting the president is just
bad film. He's turning around and looking because another thing
it does is it detracts from what he really did. Okay,
And what I'm about to say right now is the

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most probably the most controversial thing in as far as
like other Kennedy researchers when they look at my work
and tell me I'm full of shit. If you study
two photographs in particular McIntire number one and McIntire number two.
McIntire number one is just as the limousine passes under
the overpass and you can see the limit coming straight

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at you this way, okay, after the shots right the
second one McIntire two, it is turning off one of
the Stemens Freeway and you can see it kind of
from the side. So it's the same photographer one this
way and one like right there. Now, when you really
study that photograph McIntire number one, what it appears to

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me and everyone who I show this to demonstrate show
the demonstrate the picture to them, they all end up
agreeing with me. I might be crazy, I might be wrong.
It appears as though when you look at McIntire number one,
there is a man standing in the back of the
President's limousine and he's holding a rifle.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
And it is absolutely not Clint Hill.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Clint Hill, who is the Secret Service agent who jumps
onto the back of the limo and gets on top
of Jackie. In this photograph, you can see clearly that
his head is hanging over the right side of the limousine,
the driver's side, so he's already on top of Jackie
and his head is hanging over and you can see
exactly where he would be in the third row. Also,
at the exact same time, there's a man standing in

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that back seat wearing a black jacket, wearing a black
sock hat, and there is his arms are like this,
and there is a solid line going at a forty
five degree angle that to me looks like a man
holding a rifle.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Now, why would they do this?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Why would I conclude that they would do this because
this event, for the people who were involved, was as
much ritual as anything else. The shooter on the knoll
who took off Kennedy's head was Jack Valente, who was
the right hand man of Lyndon Johnson going back.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
To nineteen fifty six.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
But I do not believe Lyndon Johnson was involved at all.
And it sounds contradictory, I know, But the reason for
that is that you're going to watch your next president
to know anything at all if he can be questioned,
and I don't think so at all. Lynnon Johnson was
a puppet. He never won an election. He was put
into every position he ever had. So but Jack VALENTI
very important person. Will go on to the motion picture

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Association of America. He created the movie rating system, and
he was most certainly a diehard spook going back to
his time, I would say in the war when he
joined the war. Allegedly he's a bomber pilot. I've done
the most detailed research into his background and his training
as a bomber pilot. I can't seem to debunk it
at all. But at the exact same time, I know

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that he was referred to by Otto Skorzeny as having
the aliases of Max and z, so I know that
he had a hidden history.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
At some point.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
There was one incident where he allegedly was in a
crash and broke his arm. This happened at the same
time allegedly that there was a assassination attempt by the
CIA on Truheo and the assassin's cheap flipped proof.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Absolutely not interesting. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I have one document that proves the Jack valente work
for the CIA for his whole life. It is a
memo that is meant to transfer Jack Valenti's payroll, and
it basically says we need to transfer his payroll from
this federal agency onto the White House payroll. But the
problem was for the last ten years. He'd been running
Weekly in Valenti, which was a advertising marketing kind of

(30:40):
firm down in Houston. And what kind of federal agency
could you possibly be working for getting us paycheck while
you're running a multimillion dollar business in Houston. There's only
one the CIA. So was the sniper on yes one
of two. The shooter who fired the throat, That was

(31:00):
David Ferry, straight from New Orleans. The shooters in the
Book Depository, you have two on the sixth floor, Lawrence Howard,
Lauren Hall. These guys are mercenaries. They run with a
guy named William Seymour. And like I said, I cannot,
for the life of me, there's no evidence whatsoever that
I have seen God puts Lee Harvey Oswald at the
Book Depositor in November twenty second. Oswald was being impersonated

(31:24):
for months leading up to the assassination. He was impersonated
at the shooting range. He was impersonated at the Lincoln
Mercury Dealer where he did a test drive of a vehicle.
He's impersonated in dozens of places, oftentimes seen with a
large husky Latino with a pockmark face. Guy had moles
on his face, very unique description of a very rough character,
Lawrence Howard. So when you go through the documents and

(31:48):
you look at all the sightings of Oswald where he's
accompanied by this large husky man, you really come to
realize that it was never Oswald. It was this guy
named William Seymour who looked so much like Oswald that
even Roger Craig, after having seen William Seymour, identified him
as Lee Harvey Oswald. So Jers, Okay, you're talking about

(32:09):
Malcolm Wallace. That I believe is a little propaganda. If
there was a personal assassin, it was Valenti, and I
never put too much stock into the personal assassin story.
He had a list of eight men that were on
the hit list, and I didn't really buy into any
of it because there's a lot of propaganda out there.

(32:29):
People like to take stories and just make them up
and run with them. So I always kind of thought
that was it. But in going through Jack Valenti's file,
which is not associated with any of the Kennedy documents,
it's its own standalone file, which is where you find
all the good stuff not in the Kennedy documents.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
In his file. After he left the White house.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
In nineteen sixty me see, Johnson was still into It
must have been like sixty six or sixty seven. He
flies on an airplane and he files a police report
when he gets off that some things were stolen out
of his luggage and two of the items were cuff
links that were given to him by Lyndon Johnson. Or

(33:08):
this is what it says in the police report, at
least it makes it says the comment that these cuff
links were five slash eight meaning five eights of an
inch and six slash eight six eighths of an inch,
and both of them would be out of circulation because
they contained the President's seal. Well, I did a whole
bunch of research into these cuff links, and they don't exist.

(33:30):
None of those cuflings were ever donned in inches. They
were always millimeters. So the signal that he was sending
had nothing to do with cuflnks. That's what I determined
from that, and that's what got me thinking about five
out of eight and six out of eight being on
Johnson's out.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Of eight hit list.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
So whenever there's like a common theme or a common story,
or everyone kind of accepts something happened within the Kennedy assassination,
you can pretty much guarantee.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
It didn't happen that way.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
And so the Malcolm Wallace story, to me, it's pure propaganda.
And if and I say, if there wasn't a personal assassin,
it was most certainly Jack Valente, who is not the
person that he went on to portraying himself as for
forty years.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
In the limelight and Hollywood. That's another thing.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
He never moved to Hollywood. He ran Hollywood from DC,
if that tells you anything.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
So someone like Emilio Santana, would he have also just
been a mercenary or did they have a grudge against
Kennedy because.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
They all had grudges against Kennedy, all of them. Did
everyone had their own reason.

Speaker 8 (34:30):
Would it be correct to say he was also a mercenary?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
All those A lot of these guys, especially Anticastro Cubans,
they came to America, they had nothing to do. Some
of these guys get out of the Marines fifty nine sixty,
Lawrence Howard and all these guys, they kind of had
nothing to do. Why they didn't stay in the military,
I don't know. I think it was probably too strictly
regimented for them, and they wanted more freedom to go.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Blow stuff up because they all ended up.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Kind of consolidating around no Name key, and that's kind
of where they all kind of got together through interer
Pan and the very other groups that were assembled by
the CIA.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
So thank you.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
This is fascinating. Going back to the propaganda machine, what
would you say are your biggest insights about how the
media has been manipulated?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Oh, well, the media has been owned since like fifty
six or something like that. When you go back and
you start to research all the big names in media
going back through the fifties, sixties, seventies, they're all they're
all compromised. So I don't see anything I see today's
media as like what we interpreted as like what Pravda
was to the Soviets in the seventies and eighties. That's
what to me modern news is. That's why the independent

(35:38):
media is rising. That's why there are so many people
getting information from YouTube and x and places like that,
as opposed to watching MSNBC, which has I got friends
who have shows up bigger ratings in MSNBC, you know
what I mean, It's like, what are you.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Talking about here?

Speaker 7 (35:52):
You know?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
So, yeah, the propaganda. Really, if you want to understand
the propaganda, you gotta go back to World War Two.
That's where it all started for America.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
The Office of Strategic Services was a propaganda machine, and
they basically wrote the book on how to do propaganda.
There's actually a document called the Doctrine Regarding Rumors written
by a guy named rh Nap in May of forty two.
It is the playbook for all propaganda. I mean, if
you were to look at it and read it and
watch the news, you'd be like, oh, okay, it's the
exact same thing, the study of propaganda. Actually, I did

(36:24):
a show for a long time called Understanding Propaganda.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Because.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Propaganda is probably one of the more important concepts, and
propaganda is really only half of what comprises psychological warfare. Really,
we live in a constant state of battle, and the
plan and the warfield is psychological.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
And it's all being done to us on purpose.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
And when you go back and you read the old
War War II doctrines on how to construct a rumor,
you know, how to create terror propaganda. When you come
to understand all of these various writings by our own government,
you come to realize that They can't change the playbook
because we only absorb information as humans in so many ways,
so there's not really much variance that they can do.

(37:06):
So everybody should learn the playbook to know exactly when
you're being bullshitted and when you're not.

Speaker 10 (37:14):
Can you go ahead and outline what the official case
against Lee Harvey Oswald was as being built by the
police and why you have direct issues with placing him
at the hotel at all?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, sure, Lee Harvey Oswald. They started crafting Lee
Harvey Oswald all the way back in god nineteen forty five,
I'd say, So, this is what my new book is on.
It's on the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald and his
mother and his aunt and his two cousins on his
mom's side were all involved in naval intelligence, and they
were all involved in what is called an identity transfer operation.

(37:52):
And I believe the vast majority of what they're hiding
in regards to Kennedy is not about the assassination itself,
but it's about Oswald and the operation that were going on.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Way before the assassination.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oswald was repurposed fundamentally, so Oswald. I'll try to make
this brief but going back to forty five, Oswald went
to Boston with his mother and with his stepfather, Edwin Ekdahl.
They're there for about six months. This is confirmed by
Robert Oswald testified to this the Warren Commission. We have

(38:25):
documentary evidence at Oswald was going to school in Benbrook, Texas,
starting October thirty first through February thirteenth of nineteen forty six.
So obviously you can't be in two places at once.
You can't be in Boston living there, and you can't
be at Benbrook Common School at the exact same time.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Well, this isn't This.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
What I just explained is the first of dozens of
contradictory information over the life of the Hervey Oswald. And
after a while it becomes really clear based on not
only the documentary evidence, the photographic evidence, witness statements, people
who knew everyone involved at the time. I'm there were
fundamentally two of the Harvey Oswald's, and I believe that

(39:04):
they were brothers, and I believe they were separated shortly
after birth, and sometime around nineteen forty one, when Oswald
would have been about two years old, he is handed
off to his aunt Lilian Morrett in New Orleans and
his mother, Marguerite Oswald, disappears for three years, no trace
of her at all. The story on where she is

(39:25):
is completely bunk. The addresses she gives, the job she
had off all apart. Turns out she ended up in
New York. The exact dates I'm unsure of, but she
ended up joining the Navy Waves program. The Waves program
was the women in the Navy program, and so when
all the men went off to war, they were left
with a lot to do here and nobody to fill

(39:47):
those roles. So they expanded the Navy's recruitment to women specifically,
and the Waves program was born. The address is that
Marguerite Oswald gives where she was living at the time
in New Orleans. They don't match any record, they don't exist. Basically,
the addresses aren't any good. But those addresses, if you
change them to a Manhattan address, are right up the

(40:09):
road from the Waves training program at Hunter College in
the Bronx. So what do we have. We have clear
cut evidence of Marguerite Oswald joining the Navy. She admitted
in her book A Woman in Time or a Woman
in History that she was in the Navy as a
phone operator. So we have her disappearing for three years
and then she comes back and right about this time,

(40:31):
she marries a guy named Edwin Ekdahl who worked for Ebasco,
which was an intelligence contractor. They built power stations in
the Soviet Union at a time when we didn't have
dealings with the Soviet Union, so it's kind of weird.
He was connected to a guy named Fred Korth. Fred
Korth was his lawyer when he divorced Marguerite Oswald. But
Fred Corth would actually going on to be Secretary of

(40:51):
the Navy, big shot in naval intelligence, and he seems
to be connected to a string of addresses the Oswalds
will be connected to between forty seven and sixty three. Actually,
so the person who was the Harvey Oswald, there's conflicting
information over was he a Communist, was he an agent?

(41:15):
Did he speak Russian? What's the deal? And these are
all questions that I still don't really have answers to.
What I can tell you is that nobody can put
Oswald ever speaking Russian before he shows up at Santa Ana, California,
in the Marines in late December early January of nineteen
fifty nine, not a single person can tell me that

(41:37):
he spoke Russian because he didn't. Then when Lee Harvey
Oswald goes to Russia, did you know he never spoke
Russian one time when he went there, all of his
friends there spoke English, never spoke Russian. Okay, Then he
comes back and allegedly he's fluent in Russian again. So
there's something going on here, right. There's conflicting stories on

(41:59):
whatether or not he was in New York, New Orleans,
or even North Dakota for a time. He told Eileen Moseby,
a reporter when he was in Moscow, that he discovered
dust Capital by Marx in a library in North Dakota.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
The official story swears he never went to North Dakota.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
This is at a time he's attending PS forty four
in Manhattan or is it PS forty four in the Bronx,
because we've been told both things. So when you really
get into the life of THEE. Harvey Oswald, he was
a construct from day one. Everything that you know about
Oswald was a carefully constructed fiction that I'm working my
way through right now. So I hope I answered your question.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
So it's kind of broader to like what you're saying
about the Israel sort of as the lynchpin of this
whole thing. And I've been warn here a theory like
for a long time that the impotucier World War two
overall was the establishment of the nation state of Israel, right,
And so maybe if there's any way you can do
War one as well, But I would agree with that
and that and then to touch on what you're saying
about these events, and I agree with you JFK and

(43:05):
I would say nine to eleven covid are all have
the components about ritual that links back to Zionism as
ultimately sort of an apocalyptic cult. It's like that has
to be a theology for ritual, right, right.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
So design thing is weird because some of them are atheists,
more of them are likely occultists, but none of them
are like traditional Orthodox Jews, right. So I am still
rather conflicted on whether or not these people actually believe
their own bullshit, you know what I mean. I don't

(43:37):
know because when you look at what they do, when
you look at how they implement the ritual aspect to things,
which they most certainly did. There were rabbis in Daly
Plaza wearing pure ceremonial outfits that day captured clearly in
the Robert Hughes film, The Untampered Robert Hughes Film.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I gotta wonder why why do they do this?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
And I believe it's to maintain the religiosity of it, right,
the reason they don't like they do all that weird
ship on the weekends and they don't touch the doorknobs
and stuff, but they get a machine to turn, you know,
like they're gonna trick God, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Maintaining the religion.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Maintaining the religiosity is very important for some reason, because
God's stupid.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
You don't know better, right, So I think does that
answer your question? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (44:20):
I think.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Like like Yahu, the King Zionist of them all, I
don't know what the hell like guy really believes, Like
I can't believe. He can't believe anything that's nothing in
the Bible. I guarantee that that's a question I asked
myself all the time. Like egelical, I think those factions

(44:44):
who believe the stuff, right, like the costume people as
I call them, the ones who show up in the
costumes that all the assassinations, like they are a different
faction than the people who are given the orders, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
I think it's kind of a multifaceted thing.

Speaker 9 (44:59):
So the breath of research that you've done on this
is okay. So with all of that and also just
being a human that thinks critically in this world. Throughout
the history of our country, do you believe that we've
had a presidential assassination, either attempted or successful, that was
not done by the state at its essence or done
by the elements that control our state, the ones in power.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
I don't think so, because I don't think normal people
think like that. You know, even crazy don't go out
around shooting presidents.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
You know, maybe maybe.

Speaker 12 (45:34):
Going back to Oswald arm me, I was wondering if
you could talk a little bit about Jack Ruby, because
one of the things that makes the sort of you know,
official version seems so suspicious is okay, so we're supposed
to believe that this gangster is so mad about the
assassination of its president that he just decides to go
ahead and shoot Oswald. So but it also does kind

(45:56):
of fit with the story that you're telling. Is like, okay,
that you know gangsters were involved, and it's like you
can imagine, well, okay, well say, okay, hey, Jack Ruby,
you need to off Oswald because clearly you got to
get rid of the fucking guy, because he's he's just
a story, he's a front. But I was wondering if
you could just kind of riff a little bit on

(46:17):
what you think about Sure.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
So a lot of people like to say that Jack
Ruby and Oswald knew each other. I haven't seen any
evidence of that whatsoever. What I have seen evidence of
is that the men who were impersonating Oswald, William Seymour
and Carrie Thornley. Those two men in particular, they definitely
knew Jack Ruby. So when I see reports of people
saw Oswald at the Carousel Club with Jack Ruby, I'm like, no,

(46:41):
it was most likely Carry Thornley or William Seymour. There's
one incident in particular I can say with certainty Oswald
identified in the Carousel Club by a.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Guy named Harvey Wade.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
And he was in town for a couple of days
on a business meeting, and he goes to the Carousel
Club and then he swears he saw Oswald there. But
then he describes Oswald as having been with a large
husky Latin man who had pox on his face. So
then clearly not Oswald. Clearly William Seymour. I think that's
the overwhelming pattern there. So Nonumber twenty second, Oswald is
arrested out the front door of the Texas Theater. I

(47:10):
am convinced he was supposed to die in that theater.
I can't figure out what happened with the gun, but
Oswald never ordered a gun. The gun that showed up
was rejected at the post office, ended up at a
place called Railroad Express, and then it was signed for
by somebody named Paxton. I don't know who the hell
that is, but it wasn't Oswald. So that gun in particular,

(47:31):
allegedly Oswald pulls the gun, they struggle over it, he
gets beat up, they drag him out the front. I
find a police document and that says at some point
that gun ended up on the floor.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
So that's pretty fascinating thing to me.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
After the assassin, after this incident of Texas Theater, Oswald's arrested.
The very first phone call that Jack Ruby made was
to a guy named al Ruber. Al Gruber is in
Los Angeles. Al Kruber was the right hand man of
Mickey Cohen and who was stationed in Los Angeles, Miknock
and Began, and Yitzak Shimer. I believe it's that moment

(48:05):
that al Ruber gave Jack Ruby the order to kill Oswald.
Everyone who interacted with Jack Ruby after that phone call
said he wasn't himself or he was pale as a ghost,
and why would they give him the order to kill Oswald? Well,
Oswald had to go, obviously, But Jack Ruby had cancer.
He had cancer going back, some people say till the
time he was living in Chicago, which would have been

(48:27):
like forty seven, forty eight, which is crazy, but there
was numerous documents showing that he had cancer at least
as late as fifth sixty two or sixty three, long
before he died. Because then people try to say he
got injected with CIA super cancer or something retarded like that. Yeah,
if it sounds ridiculous, it probably is. They do have

(48:47):
the heart attack gun, and I'm sure they got a
whole lot more than that too. You know, David Ferry
died of natural causes, or they think they, you know,
they're not sure how David Ferry died. Two suicide notes.
God was perfectly healthy, but then he turns up dead,
you know knows.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
So yeah, in the.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Modern narrow they got, they could probably kill you with
satellites from space.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
I'm sure you know. Any more questions, We're gonna do
maybe three or four more.

Speaker 13 (49:13):
Sure, Yeah, with regards to Israel, and get back to
foreign policy. What's the reasons that we're that our foreign
policy and propaganda media is so against Iran and Russia.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
That's a good question. And I have my opinions.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I can't say I can I can't say my opinions
are hundred correct, but I can tell you this. The
original Jewish homeland is not in Palestine. It's in eastern Ukraine,
the Donbass region that Russia just annexed. That is the

(49:53):
birthplace of ashkar Nazi Jews. It wasn't a white Jewan
planet Earth till the eight until about eight hundred and
seven to fifty something like that, and that's where the
it came from. They will be driven out of that
land around twelve hundred to twelve twenty a d. And
that's when you see the first signs of Ashkenazi Jews
in Poland and in Germany. So I believe it's a

(50:13):
thousand year old grudge that's just me. That's how these
people think. So that and I Ran, well, I Ran
is the only other thing standing in the.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Way of the Greater Israel project.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
That's why we went into Iraq, you know, that's why
they're still bombing Syria. And I ran the problem because
I Ran could kick both of our asses, Israel and America.
We couldn't even blow up their nuclear facility.

Speaker 11 (50:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
We go in there, we drop three or four of
those bunker busters, didn't do shit, nothing, and they probably
I'm starting to the more I think about it, the
more I realize this is probably all theater.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
They were probably on.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
The phone with each other. Hey, we're moving the stuff out, Okay,
go ahead and bomb it. You know, it's a wag
the dog all over again.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Do you classified documents confirm or change your mind on
anything or even finally, yes, No.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
The only things that I question is so, for my research,
the only two people in New Orleans who ever had
contact with acted with Oswald were Kerrie Thornley and Clay Shaw.
And I say that because there's evidence of that. There's
evidence that those two people interacted with him directly. Outside
of that, I have no evidence that he had any
involvement with any of the other activities going on in

(51:31):
New Orleans. But we keep seeing documents where witnesses are
seeing Oswald involved in some of these activities with guys
like Guy Banister and David Ferry and all the guys
who are hanging out at five forty four Camp Street.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
So it makes me want to go back.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
And reanalyze some of this stuff to determine who it
is they're talking about. Because Kerry Thornley was impersonating Oswald
all over New Orleans. He's the one who had the
fair Play for Cuba Committee flyers printed at Jones Printing.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Douglas Jones identified.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Four pictures of Kerry Thornley to Harold Weisberger, researcher when
he asked them who had the flyers printed? Right, So
the flyers for fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans,
that's supposed to be like the slam Dung evidence that
Oswald was a.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Communist, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
So I'm interested in reevaluating all the New Orleans stuff,
particularly in July and August of sixty three, But other
than that, not really. They like to flood us with
documents on Cuba. There's a lot of mystique around Cuba.
And so Oswald allegedly goes to Mexico City September twenty sixth,

(52:42):
twenty seventh of sixty three. But it wasn't Oswald, it
was Kerry Thornley. He was being impersonated there. They were
setting him up, they were leaving an additional trail. They
were trying to say, see, he's still a communist, He's
trying to get into Cuba. Right, that's the whole point
of that trip. But you see, they screw up, and
they released documents that show us that Oswald was definitely
still in New Orleans on September twenty sixth, when he's
supposed to be in Mexico City where he is actually

(53:05):
closing out his po box and living a forwarding address
to the Pains residents in Fort Worth. Right, So we
have clear evidence that he was in New Orleans when
the story says he was in Mexico City, right.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
So.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Detangling all of the mess that they've made with Oswald
and where he was and things that he said, and
you know, anytime, anytime Oswald's out there talking about communism,
after he gets back from the Soviet Union and he
gets back from the Soviet Union. He's like, man, that
play sucked. He's like, communism sucks. That play sucks. I
don't want nothing to do with that. Right, And the
next thing you know, he's back on the street corner

(53:38):
hating out communist flyers. Doesn't make any sense, right, this
is all agitation. He was an agitator at the time.
But see for me, the setup started had to have
been late sixty two, early sixty three. The first documented
piece of the setup came when they ordered the rifle,
because he never ordered that stupid rifle. That piece of

(53:58):
junk rifle was imported by Adams Consolidated, a CIA company,
and it came in a lot of like seventy of them.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
There were at least three of.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Those carcanos floating around New Orleans at the time. But yeah,
it was a complete piece of junk. He never ordered it.
And the money order that was used, the money order
that they present to us saying that he used to
buy it, is a complete forgery.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
It's a fake.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
And we know this because the original money orders back
in sixty two sixty three, they were done on hard
card stock. But yet we have ink bleed through on
the image that they tell us was the money order
that he used to order the rifle. You can't have
ink bleed through on cardstock just doesn't happen. So a
huge portion of the documents that we have surrounding the

(54:40):
ordering of the rifle, they hang on a whole bunch
of other stuff, all came from one particular lawyer who
worked for the FBI, and we don't have the originals.
All we have were photocopies and that's it. So anything
that they tell us is real, that they don't have
the original piece of evidence, and all they have is
a photocopy you can guarantee as a fake. Unfortunately, that
applies to about half of Oswald's life leading up to

(55:01):
his time in the Marines in fifty six. Fake documents,
faked addresses, forged signatures, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 8 (55:09):
So this might be a big topic. But as a summary,
what do we know about the Israeli connections to the
Korean War in Vietnam generally.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Well, generally speaking, Vietnam and the LBJ connection Korea.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I'll get back to you on that one. I've covered
that a little bit before, But yeah, that one's pretty
It's always the evidence is always sketchy on the surface,
But as soon as you dig into it, you find
out this weapons contractor had to deal with this guy
over here and his brother was in the massade, and
you know that's how it goes.

Speaker 8 (55:45):
And General dynamics and the Crown.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, general dynamics, all those generaldynamics is what boeing.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Now they think you?

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah, all those corporates, all those corporations back then were
in bed with the CIA, and the CIA was like
them in the Israelis were like that.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
The whole time. For some reason, everyone's loyally is real.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I feel like I'm in some like bizarro universes, crazy.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Half common half question. Oswald was married to a Russian woman.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Zechrec Yes, okay, yes, but I hesitate because she's not
who she alleges to be either. She's the assassination happens,
the FBI and everyone in the grandmother three liter agency
shows up and she knows like two words of English.
Four months later she's like completely fluent on the stand
for the Warrant Commission. What's going on with that? She's

(56:38):
a liar. She was in on the setup of Oswald
from day one. Her uncle was in the KGB, higher
up in the KGB recently, it's kind of been alleged
that he was a CIA double agent and that's how
he got them out of the country. But when you
do a really thorough analysis of the photographs of that woman,
they do not all look like the same woman, hair

(56:59):
culor different, face, different, And then when you start to
compare her to other people involved in the story, So
there's the concept of identity transfer or body doubles is
a typical spy technique that they use all the time
that we don't know anything about, and it sounds crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
When we start talking about it.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
But when you start to dig into the family of Oswald,
you'll find some connections, especially appearance wise, between a woman
named Joyce Morrett who was a cousin of Oswald, and
Ruth Payne. They are almost identical in nineteen sixty three,
and Joyce Morrett was in Dallas at the time with
her husband. So it leads me to believe a lot
of the stories that we hear about certain people are

(57:35):
not the people we're told they are.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
So and then lbj's girlfriend has supposedly testified that he
said the Kennedys will never.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
I don't buy anything that she says whatsoever, Okay, So
the whole story about the night before, you're talking about
Medline Brown, because he had another girlfriend named Matilda Krim
also who was a Israeli spy who slept in the
White House when they blew up the Liberty. But Madeline
Brown tells a story that the night before there was
a huge party at the Murchison mansion and like Jaye
Gohover was there and everybody in their grandmother was there

(58:08):
and they all talked about killing Kennedy. And I don't
have any evidence for that whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
None.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Actually, I can put Jack Valenti in Lyndon Johnson's hotel
room at eleven thirty at night on the twenty first,
and so I really don't think that ever happened.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Too.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
It's too glamorous. Whenever you hear stuff that's too glamorous,
it usually is.

Speaker 11 (58:27):
So.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
And what about Poppy.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Bush, Okay, so I believe Bush was in Daily Plaza,
although the photographs that people say are of Bush were
not of Bush. But I know I believe he was there.
He contradicted himself every which way, but people think that
he was like a big shot then he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
He was a guy.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
The CIA went to for money, and that's all he
had to offer him then because he was rich. And
Prescott Bush and the whole Bush clan, Yeah they're all dirty,
so but yeah, he was a nobody back then. He
just gave them money. He didn't become anybody really till
he took over in seventy three.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
I think it was so yeah, everybody knew.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
That's another thing when you start to really understand that
everybody knew about Lee Harvey Oswald going back to the
time he was a child. He had those files on
him in every intelligence agency going back to the time
like the forties, right, So when you realize that, to me,
it becomes pretty obvious that everybody knew about it. Everybody
knew the assassination was going to happen. Everybody was involved

(59:24):
in the cover up. I mean, if you were to
make a list, it'd be like five hundred names long.
Even Kennedy's best friends, you know, guys like Dave Powers
and Kenny O'Donnell who were in the Secret Service car
even them, I'm convinced one percent knew what was going
to happen and then never said a word.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
I think that everyone really.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Thought he was that much of a threat to the
establishment as a whole. But really the establishment as a
whole was fifty percent Israel, you know.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
So two more questions.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
He questioned that I heard some audio of LBJ and
right after the assassination, and he said something like, oh
damn it, they got him. Is that audio real? And
who is they?

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
I'm not sure which one you're talking about. I know
that there is a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
There's an audiotape conversation between him and Senator Russell and
they're talking about the shots, and Russell makes a statement,
he goes, if there's a guy who can take his
he can shoot Kennedy in the throat and then take
his head clean off of the next shot and not
even shoot his wife who's right next to him. Well,
I don't believe there was a single shooter. You know,

(01:00:34):
how's he gonna how's he gonna miss the car and
even miss the street. He's like, I don't buy it
for a split second, and then Lynnon Johnson agrees with him.
He says, yeah, I don't. I don't buy it either.
That's a legit phone call that did happen. It was
actually fixtured in a couple of documentaries recently. But no,
everyone knew, but everyone had to cover it up. And
why do they have to cover it up for the

(01:00:55):
same reasons they're covering up the Jeffrey Epstein stuff because
all roads lead to the same place.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Hey, awesome talk, Corey.

Speaker 14 (01:01:03):
Really appreciate yet all the research, all the knowledge, everything,
and coming down here to do.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
This talk you talked about.

Speaker 14 (01:01:09):
You know, after they killed MLK RFK, that was kind
of the end of the resistance, Like the country is
over at that point, totally co opted. Have you seen
in your research any other figures that maybe were part
of this resistance or presented any other type of significant
threats after MLK and RFK that maybe you've.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Caught Jim traffickan and they murdered him. So no, not really,
It's been pretty smooth sailing for them ever since. I
think once they killed Kennedy, which was the biggest event
in world history, well modern world history, they felt emboldened.
I mean when you go when you look at how
they pulled off RFK. I'm not an expert in RFK,
but it's pretty simple to know what happened there. Fane

(01:01:48):
Eugene Caesar was the security guard. Than Eugene Caesar was
right next to Robert Kennedy, and Robert Kennedy was shot
within three inches on the back of his head, as
per the autopsy, and so they tried to destroy the
guy who did the autopsy. I forget his name, as
a Japanese guy. He was like, he's hailed as like
the of the best of what he did. He did
the autopsy, and they all shit on the guy, like, no,

(01:02:09):
he was shot from the front.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Of course he wasn't shot from the front, but I
know that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
And Martin Luther King is interesting to me because I
have my suspicions on who actually really pulled that trigger.
So I'll just say this. At the time that Martin
Luther King was killed, Jack Valenti was traveling to destinations unknown,
and that very same day he had an article come
out that he had published in the newspaper about how

(01:02:36):
sad of a day it was, what a great cover story.
And then this you'll never find in any book, but
you'll find it in a newspaper article. Right after the
assassination of Martin Luther King, a short, balding white man
was picked up by the FBI driven to a federal building,
and that's all we know about it. That short, balding

(01:02:56):
white man was either Raoul, who is a guy named
Vincent Calt, the ger our own Junior, or Jack Valenti
in my opinion, because Vincent called the girl junior, who's
the real Rawul and the short tramp in Gilli Plaza
is the former brother in law of Jack Valenti. And
if you ask me, Assassins, their spotters are lifelong. They
stick with the same guy forever. So that's pure speculation

(01:03:17):
of my partner, I'll admit it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
So that's her talk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Give it up for con

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