NRL 2025 | Bye bye top 8?

The panic button has been hit.

The boys review a very disapointing performance against the Bulldogs, and Webby's late selections are put under John's microscope. What went wrong against the 'Dogs? Listen to find out + more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another episode of
The Couch Warriors. I'm your host, John Lazaron, and I'm
joined by my co host, as always, my good friend
Richard the band where I conductor, Lady Richard. Usually, when
you know, when we get into these episodes, I try
to read a bit of an agiena you do as well,
and now we try to we try to get into
a good, good, positive start, despite the fact that if

(00:37):
we have lost the game or anything. But after that
lost singing to the Bulldogs, I'm I admit that I've
been struggling to just to just to find some positives
and I'm feeling a lot, I'm fringing a lot of frustration,
and it was hard to even prep for this episode.
How are you feeling, mate, after that after a big
game on that was actually a big, big game for
the Warriors, you know, whether we say in the top

(00:57):
four or not, and now we've been dropped out.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
So how are you feeling after that game? Mate? Get
straight into it.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, I was feeling pretty good until about nine thirty
maybe at nine thirty five on Saturday night, and then yeah,
pretty early early days, you know, the bottogs called a
few if you early try and early try, MG made
a few calls against them, went against us. And then
year by I lived there at night and I was
sitting there just I was tired. I was grumpy, and now,

(01:24):
you know, I can't believe it after you know, we're
both sort of so high and the Warriors, you know,
three or four weeks ago talking about top four and
all that, now were starting to think, hey, can we
even make the top eight? You know, I had all
of a sudden Luckily a few other results went our
way on the weekend. But yeah, plenty, plenty of questions
about the game, which I'm sure sure we'll get to.
But no, that was a poor, poor, poor pushowing from

(01:44):
from the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, no, I totally agree. I mean I was, I
was the same. I mean I was as we recorded
our last episode. I was in a hotel and I
was still in my hotel because I was gone away
for a week for work. And I was the same.
Once the game had finished. Honestly, normally I would you know,
post a postmatch sort of review, and honestly, I was
just so frustrated, so buggered that I just went to
laid down on my bed and just crashed out the

(02:07):
next morning, you know, past a bunch of colleagues and
they were saying, did you watch the Warriors?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
How? How awful was it?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
They had all these people saying this to me because
I know that I love the Warriors, and they weren't
saying it because they're trying to mock me.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
They were saying it because they were upset as well.
They were frustrated as well.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
They couldn't believe how how badly performing we were, considering
that we were, you know, at that time, a top fourteen,
and it's gone turned to pooh.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
It ever, really has turned to pooh.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I'm not I'm not trying to have a dig at
the boys or anything here, but as a whole, our campaign,
as a whole and as a team, everything's just going
down the toilet at the moment. And there's a lot
of questions about the game. But look, let's just let's
just talk about the game first. Just get into the
actual game in itself. I mean it was played over
in Sydney, pouring rain. The conditions were, you know, probably

(02:57):
it's more suited to us because Bulldogs have had a
rotation where they can't play in the rain. I mean,
they got hammered by the Tigers. The Tigers, of all teams,
took it to the ball dogs. Well the week just
the week before, wasn't it. It was just the week before,
and I was I had a lot of hope for
this game. I really did, despite the fact that we've
been losing. I thought, you know, I just thought we
could just pull something out of the bag here and

(03:17):
we can get back on track. But it wasn't to be.
And yeah, it was just it was just rubbish. We went,
we went playing to the conditions, we weren't utilizing them well,
too many that you see before, too many silly mistakes,
et cetera. And they just got on top of us.
And once they scored those couple of tries and it
was it was pretty much all gone from there. There
was no really no hope, was there.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Nah? Nah? You know, so I think it was. Yeah,
it was obviously, you know, we started early, took the points,
probably probably the right decision. And the rain. You know,
we talked the other week about taking the points with
you doing or not, But I think that was it
was a right cool. But then we just straight away
gave away a pretty couple of pretty silly, silly peeknees.
They got up to wall and it was four to two,

(03:59):
and then much into the game, kick Ol goes over,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
What do you think? What do you think about it?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I thought, I, look, I'm not saying this, bers I
was feeling because I know, I understand the moment that,
you know, the slippery rain and the slippery grass, it's
easy to momentum to be taken over. I get, I
totally get there, but it didn't look like it was
a momentum from from just sliding.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
His arm was.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, it looked like it was like he had
to here to make another movement just to get the
sick momentum push. So I don't understand how the bunk
had just like confirmed it so with Cookies.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Even look, they looked at it like for ten seconds
exactly like it was one replay, and then they're like, yeah,
that's good enough. Yeah they're sliding sliding, But no, no,
I definitely look like as you know, prepared, you know,
prepared it over. So yeah, I was pretty pretty upset
about that. And yeah, it was sort of there's a
couple of referring decisions that you know, I'm not going

(04:56):
to blame playing on the on on MG, but I
definitely didn't have as head. He had an absolute chakra.
I thought that pimally against Sasha Harris sort of, you know,
just after we'd scored that try the second half, heally
scored that try first head up, you know, forsh Harris
is just showing a bit of regression, pushed the guy
out of the way. It was pretty much clearly and
you know, like lying over the bad over the rack

(05:18):
and he gets pitied for I think it was crighton
of course.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know it was. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I mean he's definitely one of those players in the
inn row that everything he touches turns to gold, and yeah,
it was It was frustrating to see that there was
the obstructions last techn with the player without the ball.
I don't know if he saw the game last night.
The ill was Cowboys Games, but there was a you know,
last player of the game. Yeah, and Moses, Moses goes

(05:44):
into then I and the ball goes at the back
to to Jake Clifford, who scores could have been the
match winner. I don't see that, you know, like that's
if that's a penalty. What that was last night? Which
I think it was. You know, I feel like the
one on on on Saturday Night was as well. So
just yeah, a couple of a couple of key moments
there as far. So I didn't want to get it

(06:05):
out of the way early because I'm not I'm not
blaming on MG, but he's definitely on my on my
list at the moment. But yeah, it's just that on
top of just just the eras that that we made. Obviously,
there's a few selection selections that we'll we will talk
about a little bit later, but there was a few
stats to just sort of pointing out to me. It

(06:26):
was surprised we still completed eighty three percent, so that's
a good good sign for the boys and those conditions,
but we only had forty four position forty four percent
position line breaks were six to nine into the Bulldog,
so we didn't even have one line break the whole game. Yeah,
forty four tackle breaks to fourteen. They had year four
fourth dropouts, so we just had the one. The kicking

(06:48):
meters seven hundred and fifty five to four hundred and
fifty six, So that's just yeah, not exceptable a game
like that. Obviously, Tonnel Boyd was dropped earlier in the game.
Didn't help that we did lose Mary and Madden twenty
months into the game, twenty two twenty three minutes into
the game, I think it was. But yeah, we just
obviously Peristavilla wasn't able to sort of keep up with

(07:09):
fat Chance came into sex. But I mean that's not
his his game, you know, he's not he's not a
kicker of the ball. Unfortunately, we don't really have anyone else,
you know, not like the some other teams in the
camp that might have you know, like a Latrial MATCHA
was sitting out there at center, who can just you know,
boot the ball sixteen minutes as Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Pemalies have they got a bit closer in the end.

(07:31):
It was eight seven, but I feel like there was
about two or three late penolies to the Warriors. Yeah,
they made they look a little bit even because it
felt like at one point, yeah, it wasn't looking like that.
And I think the boarder was given away two Permalies
in the first two minutes as well, so that just
you know, that's that's sort of sum set up and
six agains were fight to two.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So yeah, just just not not good.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Enough of a performance. Obviously there was you know, it
was a bit of a Mexican match team. A few few,
few few late calls may she Harris coming back in
and and town of Boy sort of getting dropped. But
we just we didn't play the conditions. And yeah, I
mean we're probably lucky to we were lucky to score
what it was at four aen points in the end,

(08:14):
you know, it was lucky sort of team herely came
on and and seemed like the only person was providing
any spark apart from probably Roger when he hit the
ball in hand, but even he hid a few few
eras a few one on one that was pretty unexcusable.
A couple of the last couple of weeks where he
used to dropped the ball out of nowhere and he
had to try to scored scored over him with crossing

(08:38):
over twice. So you just needed some more from some
of the senior guys, the likes of Roger Chance, even
sort of pusher Harris, you know, you think of like
Cape Brow and No Core. You hardly even saw them.
I feel like, you know, you hardly even saw them
playing the whole game. You know, probably wasn't able to
assume himself in the game as much as they were

(08:58):
light and we used to. So now I just plenty
of plenty of questions. It was hard to sort of
sort of find highlights from the game, probably apart from
Aaron Clark's up and underlayding the game.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
What a what a kick that was better than our
halves kicking far out That kick.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
That kick was Actually, that's a good point that you
bring it up, because I actually remember when he did it.
That kick he did was probably better than anything our
halves did all throughout the whole game. And it says
a lot, I mean to a picky. I mean, I
know he's not renowned for having a big boot or anything,
but even his kicking when he had on his last
two they barely went thirty forty meters. Yeah, and you
know Aaron Clark's but when he did the up and under,

(09:37):
it looked it looked pretty good. Is that?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, rather have him kicking and kicking the last pacle, you.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Know, like just just goes up and creates the It
created the uncertainty at the back. You know, I think
they got the bounce to the ball anyway from from memory,
But yeah, it was. I mean, it's good. You know,
maybe it's not an option. We can look at it
next week. I thought that even potentially they could have
looked at playing him at Sex when tomorrow Monum went off,
you know, because he's I mean, he's a great ball player,
you know, like he'd like obviously not solely for us

(10:05):
kicking them, I don't mean, but yeah, like if they
just wanted someone like Chance wasn't really kicking that, so
they could have had had him doing that because yeah, yeah,
I mean, once again we didn't play it back on
the beach, and it came back to buy us on
the on the bum. Seems to be every time the
Warriors don't play it back on the beach, someone goes
down early.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
A Yeah, no, you're right, honestly, you you summed it
up pretty well, like it's just all round it which
everything just went wrong, you know, injuries, you know, h
I as, you know, players playing out of position, the
calls not going away. Like I said, I'm not, I'm
with you. I'm not gonna blame the referee either. I'm

(10:42):
not gonna blame energy. But he still had a terrible game.
He did, He had a terrible game but you can't
say that that was the reason why the Warriors lost,
because it wasn't you you you read out some you know,
some stats before we didn't even crack the line once
and and we didn't look like we were going to
it all looked like we were just you know, just
look like we were just know, well, I mean, what's
up with these just hit ups and then just head

(11:03):
up And there was no creativity, there was nothing. There's
like you just knew that even when we were close
to their line, nothing was happening, like you were just
you were fingers crossed hoping something would happen.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
But it just just looked it looked all over the place.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
And to be honest, you can't really point out individuals
in this game because it was it was a rubbish performance,
a team team performance. They just weren't in the sync,
were they. They weren't in the syncing. No one was
in sync. It was just it was just rubbish. It
was just it was just terrible.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And you know, you look at social media and all
the comments and Warriors fans, all the die hard fans,
including ourselves, mate, I mean, we don't we don't try
to bag the team, which we're not trying to do here,
We're just trying to give out some honest opinions here.
It was just genuinely, genuinely a rubbish game.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
From there. They didn't perform at all. And it's a scary.
It's a scary performance because it's not just a bad performance.
It's a scary performance because we're only a few weeks
out from the finals and if we're going to go
in like that, like you know, when we're not going
to go far and we'll talk about that, you know,
I want to I want to ask about that. You know,
it is the season over for the Warriors. Despite the

(12:07):
fact that we're still in the top eight, we're sitting
in fifth. You would think, well, why would you say that, John,
We're in fifth position. You know, we're in the top eight,
But going on a performance like that, do you really
expect us to progress? So, I mean, I'll ask that
question a little bit later on, but just going again,
I want to go back to your you're James Fisher,
Harris little push to stand to cutter Stephen Crichton. Fox

(12:27):
League actually asked them, I think in a post match interview.
They said to him, Oh, did you actually did he
actually push you there hard and apparently he went so
he was kind of obviously he was. He was milking it.
It was quite funny. He was on the Fox League,
and yeah, referees don't pick that stuff up. They just think, oh, no,
he's pushed him. He's he's you know, he's obstructed the

(12:49):
the marker there but far out.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
But you just look at, like how many times it
happens in a week in you know, someone gets up
to play the ball a little you know, a little
a little just assistance, little post. I mean, what happened
once a seat. I feel like, you know, like just
at the time of the game, that it happened just
just as we'd scored a try, you know, like it
was a good, good head up, really good intention there.

(13:12):
He was obviously fired up, and it just just killed it.
It killed any chance that we had that we I
think at the time it must have been eighteen to eight. Yeah,
and then I think they scored from I feel like
they scored from the seat afterwards, you know, and that
was sort of that that was just like, Okay, well,
we're not going to be able to come back here,
are we.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
So yeah, frustrating frustrating and yeah, I mean it'll come
back to a lot of you know, some of the
selection choices. I mean, it wouldn't would have been pretty
handy to start boarding the game like that. You know,
he's obviously got a pretty good kicking game, and unfortunately,
as I said before year, what was it seven hundred

(13:56):
and fifty five kicking meters? Four hundred and fifty six
kind of is it?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Is it right? There?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It does, it does. There's a lot in very bizarre
and yeah, we'll go over the sexes. But look, let's
just let's just let's just forget about reviewing the game.
There's nothing really to review us there. They were just
they were just poor, you know what I mean, there's
there's nothing to freak, something to really really go deep into,
because I mean, at least you want to talk about
the attack and stuff, because there's no attack.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
There's nothing just talk about.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, like a rare China light in the game was Yeah,
seeing Heally coming off the bench, you know, it took
him I think it was about forty forty five odd
minutes to come on that he was named to start,
but the fIF decision was merely go decision was made
to start, Yeah, pretty lass and heally came on. I
think within about five minutes he scored a try here

(14:46):
to chip and chase to himself, you know, like to
see it up. Every time he got the ball, he
was running it, running it looking dangerous. So it was yeah,
I mean it looks like Aigan's I haven't you know.
I think last my cheek he was TBC is so
when you be back, So I don't imagine he'll be
he'll be He'll be playing this week. So yeah, I

(15:07):
mean I hope to see even if LUs it does start,
that we that heale gets yeah, some some more minutes,
because especially in their first half when we just you know,
we scored two points and a half, you know, like
there was just there was nothing happening on attack. He
came on and really bought bought a spark.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So it's true.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, it was. It was good. Good to see that.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Jackson Ford was good. It was actually pretty good on
the night. He was actually really good in the tack
in defense. He puts some monster hits on and he
was just running as he always does. He's got a
big motor on him and he just keeps going keeps going,
and you know, I thought jackson Ford was great.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The only other thing, the only thing I'll say about jackson.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Ford again is it just gives away too many penalties
into six against He did it and I could even
hear the referee saying Jackson, Jackson, get off. You know
next time you're gonna get penalized. And he keeps doing it.
He's done it for the last four games. I know
you're like, I've got a big grilled I know you're
a grid in your face because I've seen this too
many times, but it's true and I'm I'm really, really
with an eagle eye watching it.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
He's doing he's doing.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
That I thing where you know, like the I see
this last time with the Storm players like to hold
them down as long as possible, you know, for their
defense to get again in line again.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And he's doing it. But he's not getting away with
it like the Storm do.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
And he needs to stop doing that because he's honestly,
he's giving away so many penalties and six six games
should next time I'll get I get a piece of
paper and I'm gonna count them and not to go
not because I'm trying to have it go at him.
It's just because he's it's actually what he's doing. He's
doing that. But he actually had a good game. And
other than that, he had a pretty good game. He
was one of the other shining lights.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
One one penalty and two sex agains John, so it
was more than that.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
It was more than one.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's good though, when there's only five sex agains in
the game and two of them are from Ham but.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
The two of them.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
But the thing is, I remember, okay, well, I mean
I didn't count, so I can't really say anything.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
But they were right in front of our posts as well.
They were right in front of our posts and they
did score. That's why I remember getting frustrated about this.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
What the heck you're doing? Why do you keep doing this?
But anyway, I'm trying to say a positive thing about him,
saying that he actually had a really good game. I
thought he had a good game. They've never really seen
him put some monster hits on but he did. He
did quite a few there, about two or three monster
hits on some players there. So it was awesome to see.
But again, hard to find some shining lights. It's been
hard to find a shining light for the last four
weeks to be honest with when it comes to our performances.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But yeah, yeah, well what is it?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
One two wins some the last seven seven I think
of this year seven games because we.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Lost three straight. We've lost three straight straight at home,
I think, so, yeah, definitely more. You know, the larm
bet I was starting to ring and ye, I mean
from what we saw on the weekend, it didn't fill
me with too much confidence for the remaining four games.
But you know that they can just keep back what

(18:00):
they were doing earlier in the year. You know, maybe
a couple of guys that have come bit from injury
or you know, as as as a team can be,
maybe they'll they'll make the difference. But yeah, I mean,
the way they're playing, it's it's sad to see them
sort of going past the fifth round of the finals.
If they if they make it, they are out. Hey yeah,
well do you do you believe that?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I mean, this might be just a bit of an
obvious an obvious one, but the loss of Metcalfe and
the loss of bandit has had a huge impact on
the side, Like not just in terms of play with Luke.
Metcalfe was obviously the main playmaker, but also in terms
of like leadership and just that mongrel, that Bandit hairs,
you know, and you know, he's a guy that sort

(18:40):
of commands like you know, he expects you to be
doing on your game to the type things. So do
you think the loss of Bandit especially and Metcalf especially
has made a big impact on you know?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah, I think it means. I think the results
have kind of shown that obviously obviously has. I think
since ban It gone, we had a we had a
buy and then I think maybe we had the loss
to the Panthers and then there was another loss either
side of that as well. Yeah, So that's what I

(19:15):
say before about you know, I sa he went in
two of the last seven, which I think is correct.
That's happened since Barnet was out and then and then
Metcalf's the seeking half of that year. Because is that
Broncos lost as well, wasn't that? Yeah, so that was
the game Metcalf was out. So yeah, I mean I

(19:35):
think the results speak to himself there. Yes, Yes, the
loss of those players has been big. Yeah. I mean,
like Metcalf wasn't exactly flawless, but he was obviously doing
a pretty good job. He was, you know, running running
the ship pretty well. Unfortunately, Tannel Boyd obviously wasn't up

(19:57):
to standard from what from what the you know, the
Warriors coaching start side was seen, and then yeah, dropping
him proved to be a pretty costly ero once some
tomorrow Madam went out on the weekend. So and then Barney.
It hasn't helped that, you know for Fisher, Harrispin and
did for quite a few you know at some of
that period as well, really didn't help. It's been a

(20:18):
good experience for some of the young guys, but they've Yeah, unfortunately,
it's just so the last year, three or four weeks,
it's just become a bit hard. And you think about
the games we did one good winning it's the Tigers,
but then there was that game it's the Nights of
which we were lucky to win. So it could potentially
have been, yeah, losing six of the last seven, which
would have been very, very bad after the after the

(20:41):
start of the season we had.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So yeah, yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Hard to see, hard to see where we were, how
we how we did it around from here.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
To be honest, well, speaking of it, we'll let me
ask you the big, big, big golden money question mate,
that everyone is talking about right now, and I'm gonna
put you on the spot for it, but it is
the question that many people are asking, particularly in social media.
Despite the fact we are sitting in the top eight,
fifth position, and you know we and you know, I

(21:13):
know there was a chance that we could drop out
of the eight, but say we're saying the eight despite
if we still play finals. Is the Warriors season over?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's the question I want to ask you right now,
at this point we're talking is the Warriors season over?
You don't see them progressing this I'm trying to say,
do you see them even progressing even if we make
the finals?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
So I see them No, No, yeah, I can't. I
can't see them getting past the first week of the
finals in that if they if they make it, you know,
you look at the the run home we've got. We've
got the Dragons this week in too, have decided to
find some form. They've been in the Raiders in the
Shark plus two weeks so to to fellow top eight teams,

(21:55):
and they're technically, I think most mathematically the season is
still alive. So they've got nothing to lose, and we
haven't been great at home. We've lost our last two,
maybe been the last three at home. I think I
said before, so this is going to be a tough challenge,
and I think I don't think I'll be tipping tapping
us a speech on for once in my life, because

(22:18):
just yeah, the way that the Dragons are playing, the
way we're playing in general, way we're playing at home,
and then you look at the remaining games, got the Titlands,
which is we've just got a really bad record against
We've lost like five of last sex or something like that,
and then you've got the Eels of sort of much
Moses is back and they're playing some pretty good footy,
and then you've got the the Manly Seels to finish

(22:40):
it off. Who we could get a win there because
they're they're looking pretty pretty horrendous at the moment to
be not to be honest with you, So it could
end up being that, yeah, that we could work in
our favor if they're still not playing great and not
quind of quite sure what they're doing with Tommy t
and in some of that some of their backline. I
suppose the one thing that could work in our favor

(23:00):
is that there is other thing. You know, Broncos have
just lost you know this twos or half their two
halves at least all the finals. It's looking like Andy
Mins both going down with hamstring injuries and the same play.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Did you say that, Yeah, yes, yes, hemis right. They
pulled them.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, insane, man, It's unheard of. So you got there.
You've got the Sharks, who who were looking good but
then they kind of yeah, proved to us that they
are still the Sharks, and they've still got you know,
you know, you know, are lost in their lots of
two in there for sure. And then you've got the
Dolphins who got absolutely put to the sword by the
Roasters by about fifty points after they beat us. So

(23:43):
the Dolphins might be gone, you know, I think maybe
the injuries have caught up with them. And then you've
got the Roosters, who, yeah, I mean they look like
they're they're flying, but they are still four points behind us.
So yeah, I mean, top eight's definitely still in the picture,
but we need to play a lot better than we
have been as far as yeah, I mean, yeah, I

(24:04):
can't see as finishing fifth or Sex and getting their
home final so it's going to be and even if
we get a home final, we're not very good at
home this season anyway. So yeah, i'd say we're going
to make the eight just but we'll be seventh or
eighth and we're losing the fist round as much kills me.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yep, no, no fear, cool fear.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Col I know, and I know I know a lot
of people won't want to hear that, but bach a
lot of people are thinking it as well, even whether
they don't want to, whether they want to admit it
or not, Bitch, they're thinking it. Because I'm the same
like I don't want to admit it. I want to
want our boys to progress and I want them to
you know, play well and also get their top four
sport you know, you have their extra life and stuff.

(24:44):
Or even if they didn't get it, they're still playing
the top bight put it, you know, put up a fight.
But at the moment, I just don't see it happening
the way they are going. You know, we are supposed,
we were supposed to have the easiest run home into
the finals. It was it was it was you well
well communicated way back. You know how many rounds ago
that we had the easiest drawer going one of the
easiest drawers going into the finals. Then we've just just

(25:07):
just stuffed it all up. We have stuffed it up
big time. And you know, there are many many factors
into them. We'll talk about that, including selections, as we've said,
But yeah, I just don't see how it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I mean, we need to. We need a miracle, don't we.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
We need a miracle where something's just going to change
where the team was start yelling again and you know,
they just they might have they might have to just
do something different in attack because their attacks was pretty
rubbish at the moment.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, I suppose the thing also with with with Penrith.
The thing to remember about them is I've got three
very high games coming out. They've got the storm Raiders
and the Bulldogs. They've got the top three teams three
of the last four games. So you know, if we
could get pick up a few wins, I can't imagine
them winning, you know, four straight. So you know, if
we could get three or four, two or three wins

(25:55):
and rely on them dropping the game or two, because
although they're playing God, they have shown that they're not unstoppable.
So yeah, I mean, it's gonna be a great final
four rounds. And I just really really hope that we
can just find some form and get back in the
windows circle and you know, actually still make a make
a late get some guys back, some of the trips
back and make a late charge. So yeah, I don't know, man,

(26:19):
it's gonna be stressful, stressful watching the Linux four weeks,
I think.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Oh totally.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And you know, you make a good point that and
in regards to the other teams, I mean, we might
have to rely on a lot of other results, like
you said, Like you know, I mean you never like
seeing people go down, like you were talking about with
the Broncos horse, you know, as a man, and.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
And that's when it's Broncos players.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I'm
going to be nice. I'm just trying to be nice.
I'm trying to be nice here. But it won't It's
gonna be really hard for them, right, It's gonna be
really hard for them. You know, the Reynolds is an
amazing player. It's an amazing you know tactician is also
a good kicker.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know, he's he's he's.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Great, he's great, but you know these are He's a
huge loss. So we might have to rely on other
results and like you said, Penriff having those games as
well and things like that and so so. But even
if we the results from other sides go our way
where we can stay in there, I still don't see
us progressing the way we're playing, no matter what, no

(27:16):
matter it doesn't matter whether we finished fourth or sixth,
seventh or eight, I don't see us progressing because of
the way we're playing. You just can't play like that
and expect to win.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
You just can't. Like you said, there was no line breaks, right,
there were no line breaks, right? Zero? How can you
go an eighty minute game in a row and make
zero line breaks?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's rubbish. And for me, there speaks a lot about
our attacking stuff. And I've said it before. I'm not
the only one to say it, but I think they're
really going to have to review the tecking stuff because
I don't think Stessey Jones is up to it.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
He's a legion, he's a key religion, a warrior's religion,
and we all love him. But in terms of that,
does that make him a good coach? Though?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I really don't think he's a good coach in terms
of attacking. I don't think he's doing a good job.
I think they needed look looks elsewhere when it comes
to attack. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, a few people have said
that when we saw if the he had got the
key he was firing last year, did he? And you know,
he sort of he his head had some time at
the helm of the Warriors, and they didn't. I mean
it was one of those many seasons where little coaches,
you know, kept get halfway through and he just picks
up the scripts and didn't really show much interest in

(28:22):
the in the gig full time. But yeah, it'd be
interesting to see, yeah, what happens in the off season,
whether there is any changes made there. He is obviously
a Warrior's legend, ye, and there'd be a few people
upset if they would let him go. But yeah, I
mean the stats are kind of speaking for themselves this
year there, you know, with our and even if we

(28:43):
do sort of make a good late late run. So
I'm just bringing the letter up here. When you look
at the points differential, you know you've got the Raiders
one hundred and sixty eight, Storm on two hundred and
forty eight, Bulldogs on one hundred and forty. He's one
hundred and nineteen. We're on eight. Broncos are one hundred
and four, Sharks thirty five, Dolphins one hundred and nineteen,
and the Roses are seventy two. So the Roasteres are

(29:06):
your ninth, were fifth, but their points differential was, yeah,
fifty four points, sixty four points better than us.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's a good step to bring up, bro.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
And like I said, and again for anyone who's listening
and watching this, it's not us having a dig at
Stacy Jones personally.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
We know he's a legend.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
We know he's a legiend of the game game in general,
but especially with Kiwis and the Warriors, But in terms
of his credentials as a coach, I just don't see it.
And I'm glad you brought up the Kiwis because that's
actually a good point because he made he was made
head coach of Keys when he had Wayne got the
likes of Wayne Bennett butroing his end up and Maguire
saying he wanted to still stay in the role, but

(29:47):
they were in against it, and you put Stacy Jones
in and look what happened. Look what guy did the
year before thirty zero against the Aussies, and look what
happens when he goes on. He just doesn't have the goods.
I just don't think he hears the goods as a coach.
And this again nothing personal against Stacy Jones.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Just the boxing gloves are at John. No.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I just like to be to be honest. Now, Stacy
Jones loved the guy legend. And you know, I think
I've interviewed in the past, you know, back in the year,
back in the day as a journalist. But I'm just
being sure. I mean, look, I mean I think I've
mentioned this before on the podcast where Matthew Ridge spoke
on the two between two Beers podcast and they asked
him the question and he said, oh look he actually

(30:29):
say he didn't say, you know, Secy Jones' name, but
you know who you know who he was relating to
when he said that when they asked him what's going
on at the Warriors and they said, there's too many
you know, old wood. I think there's the term he used,
but you know who was getting it. There's they're there
just because of their name and stuff. But they're not
doing anything. And I'm sorry, I just have to agree
with them. I have to agree with them on this matter.

(30:50):
But look, let's let's liten. Listen, let's move on from
this before and before we continue on with other things
we've got on there on on on questions. What tonight,
let's just go over the while he as good as
your segment before we move on to the next.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
One short thing, broke. I can start us off, so alliums.
It's the equivalent of the d L EAMs but for
the wires wires games, and we did it. You come
up with it originally. I see there's that whatever he
set nation. Yeah, they've they've got their walleums. But we'll
say that, yeah, this is the second season during the eumes,

(31:23):
so they have they have copied us. And if you're
listening to anyone from the Sport Nation, there will be
a law suit coming your way in no time. But yeah,
we've got this week. I'll start us off. We've got
Iaron Clark gets my three. I just thought he was
only one of our four. It was only one of
our forwards that made it over one hundred running meters

(31:43):
hit fifty one post contact, twelve carries, two tackle breaks
of the you know, we only have fourteen taking breaks
as a team. So he every time we got the ball,
he was sort of, you know, he was going forwards,
which which starts because there was a few guys that
were going sideways or backwards. Yeah, and then three five
tackles on the other side of the ball as well,
So yeah, I thought it was a I mean, and

(32:05):
it was hard to find, you know, some positives, but
that was about as good as I could get it.
Sam Healy too, sort of gave him a shout out
before he obviously scored this try as first try for
the Warriors, So congrats, Sam Helly. I'm sure you're you're
listening and ever dar listener of our podcast. But he
and thattually amount of time he managed to hit twenty
tackles as well, So I thought that was in two minutes. Yes,

(32:27):
So I thought that was that was really impressive. And
just every time he sort of got the ball, he
was looking like he was gonna, you know, do something,
and then two pick he got my one. You know,
it would have been a really tough game to be
a fallback, especially when you're you're on the sort of
back foot the whole night that we that we were

(32:48):
in no luck running it out, you know from from
the Cats. Burden's bombs were just you know, they were
they were going up there, and and the Bolldogs. Coickchase
was really good, but he had a pretty I don't
think he had any eras fifteen rounds and with one
hundred and team meters. So yeah, as I said before,

(33:08):
it was sort of hard to find positives for. They
were probably just three that I had head circled. I
thought of Margat was pretty good off the beach as well.
He was I was touching up with him and to
a pickie from my one point, but yeah, which to
a pickie, that's my my three two one? How about you?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I had pretty much exactly the same as you Boke said.
I had jackson Ford taking my three.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
For all those out there thinks they always think that
I'm having a boxing fight with boxing five jackson Ford, No,
not the case at all. I just think I just
get frustrated with his uh with the pies he gives
away in six games. But I still thought that he
as I mentioned earlier in the episode, I just said
I just thought he was awesome on defense and attack.
I mean, even though there wasn't really an attack, he

(33:52):
tried as hard as you can see that he was
trying his hardest. And yeah, just if you know, if
the rest of the team were playing well, I'm sure
that you know his his what he what he was
doing on the field, would have been a lot more,
you know, to see in terms of shining. But yeah,
not to be just because the whole team just was
was out of sync with each other. But texon and
four gets my three. Sam Helly gets my two. Just

(34:14):
like you found it very bizarre for him does not
start and come on when he did. But like you
said earlier on when he came on, he just sparked
something in our in our side, it's scored a try
and got a lot of got a lot of got
a lot of like I said, tackles, made a lot
of tackles just in that short amount of time. He's
only on for half an hour. So yeah, Sam Hilly
gets my two. And I really hope that, I mean,

(34:36):
if Waiting is not available this week that if you know,
or if he's gonna go with two hookers again, which
was again bizarre in my eyes again. But if he's
gonna go go with go with that, I think that
Sam Hilly should be the one not for free lastic.
But my one point goes Aaron Clark the same reasons
that you know you brought up just always always puts
it and puts the effort and seems to be the
only four that does sometimes and our in our forward pack.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
But and also just because.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
He's met the dead all some kick when on a
night where on a night where honestly the kicking was
just appalling from our side that here, So it took
someone like Aaron Clark, who was not a kicker, to
probably put the best kickout.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
That we you know, in the whole game for us.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So yeah, yeah, just just quickly I just was on
the kicking, just pulled up the kicking steps for the
team to a pick. He had seventy eight has to
be the two hundred and thirty eight cook. Capell had
sixty four, kicked it three times apparently, saw Aaron Clark
sixteen and tomorrow Madam had two year fifty seven and

(35:35):
his twenty minutes he played. So yeah, not really good
enough of it.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
No, not at all at all? All right, Well, he
ends there we go.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
So mate, the next question I wanted to bring up,
and we'll just talk briefly on this because this is
you know, there was another there was a question from
this this chump that keeps putting questions on on our
chat Rizzi Michael far Out.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Who is this?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Who was it was? Dude?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
He you know he has who are my boxing next?
And it'll be it would be, you know, yeah, no
rematch with Andrew Ribster. A rematch with Andrew Ribster. And
and I've said it in the previous episode and I'm
saying it again right now, and I just I think,
you know, what happened on the weekend just proves why
I said it in the last a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
One.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
He's a great coach. I love him as the Warriors coach.
I think he's should be there, and I think, you know,
he's the one to take us forward. But if there
was one floor that he has, one that's one obvious
floor that he has is that his selection policy, and
it's not just because of the game they just been
by has been going out for the whole season. Despite
the fact that we've been winning, there's still be some
some some eyebrows lifted of the some of some of

(36:46):
the people who put it he's put in. There's been
a lot of eyebrows lifted, and not just this season,
the previous seasons as well. So let's talk about quickly
for a few minutes. Weby's selection floor was I'm gonna
put it that way anyway, but do you think he
has an issue with where he goes around the silexs
Because let's look about this game first. This up with
this game dropping down to Boyd, your your your one

(37:08):
genuine kicker on for a game that you know you
needed a genuine kicker and replace in pregnant to minding
Martin were just fine. I like to minda Martin, right,
I like to mind the Manton but and I love
Harris Tavida but as individuals, but as a combination is
a harvest combination. It doesn't work. So I don't understand
how they don't work. They don't. They don't, they're not

(37:28):
they don't gel together. They're both not genuine kickers. And
for me, I don't know if you'd agree with this though,
Harris de Vida to me was more like a complimentary player.
When Metcalfe was around like he did. He did well,
and he played well. But I'm just saying, Luke Metcalfe
the most of the majority of Nead, majority of our
attach and you know, we scored off him. I just

(37:51):
thought it was bizarre taking Boyd out of this game
for a game in these conditions and not having any
I know, to Monday, Mantain was unlucky Category one, Hi
a very unlucky. I'm not saying I'm not saying that
we lost because of that. I'm just saying that, I'm
just saying that, you know, I would have rather had
maybe to Manda and Martin at seven and Boyd at
six if I was going to go down that trick,

(38:12):
if he wanted something different than half back. And yeah,
so what do you what are your thoughts on Webby's
selection selections of late.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, well, I mean it's good to know that he
can drop a player because I feel like, yeah, it's
almost the first time I can think of someone actually
just being drops. You know, like thereunt of times in
the last couple of seasons where guys have been under
performing and they have just sort of stuck with them,

(38:41):
which which is obviously something you know, it's part of
the mentality of the team and probably you know, a
reason why the team's doing so well because you know,
there's a there's a you know kind of like the
team obviously respects him, he respects the players, but sometimes
you know, tacticles need to be made. But yeah, I was,
I was pretty confused confused about that one. I think

(39:03):
from what i've from what I together, it was it
was something on you know, what they'd noticed about his defense.
So obviously that that you know, there was there would
have been some stats that sort of came up in
there in their video footage or you know that you know,
and it could have been it's you know, it could
well be something about the reason why you know, but

(39:25):
everyone's drifting in from Dylan's It could be something to
do with sort of what he's doing. I mean, that's
completely no, no sort of substantial evidence behind that. But
you know, I'm just saying like it sounds like there
was the reason was for his defensive stuff. So obviously
there was something that was seeing. But yeah, I mean,

(39:45):
it would have been handy to have a guy like
him with his with his boot and unfortunately, the way
the game played out with Tomorrow Martin going going out
after twenty two minutes. It meant that that game plan
with out the window, we didn't have to Marimana on
the beach to come on and cover have one of
those half spots, so that it was sort of a

(40:06):
bit of a mix around. Obviously, chants went into sex
and and and as much as I love chance, you know,
and I think he has played sex once or twice
for the Warriors. Yeah, I mean, he hardly even saw
him in that game. I think Lika went out to sea,
but and then he looked like he you know, he

(40:26):
obviously hid that h i A. And he had that
burned up nose as well, so it didn't didn't sort
of help his cause. And then you know he was
playing our position as well, So yeah, just sort of
just meeting a lot, you know, a couple of you
guys playing our position.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
So yeah, I mean I was surprised kind of boy
went and played new I was cap and it sounds
like he had a pretty pretty good game in there.
But yeah, I mean, what do you think hit me
going forward? Lama? There's some talk there's some talk about
young young Jet Cleary, you know, and whether they might
bring harm up he's obviously playing some really good footy,

(41:03):
and he spells CAP.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Do you is that?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Is that what you're calling for, John? Or are you
saying hold off and give him, give him a few
more games in CAP.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I actually wouldn't mind seeing it, to be honest. I
think we're we're at a desperate point now and and
in our in our campaign, like we're running out of players,
are dropping lot of flies. And thankfully because of yourself,
was Cup, we've got some players that can back up,
you know, and feel that void.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
But even when.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Even when like there are players to fill that void,
when the players are down on form, it doesn't happen,
still doesn't happen, It doesn't happen. Still good A good
one would actually a good example to be Cossi. He
cost he plays one bad game right season, gets droped,
and then comes back because of injury and actually has
a couple of good games. Remember he has some pretty
good games, and then he has one bad game and

(41:51):
everyone just burns them, like abuses them and everything, and
he gets dropped. Then Dylan comes back, he has a
run of game, run our games with such bad, bad
patch of form, but they still continue to pick him.
So so you look, you look at the pattern here.
What's happening to other players aren't isn't happening to the

(42:12):
players they've got more of a reputation. And I just
think it's really bizarre. And then that's what that's why
everyone keeps saying, you know, webs is you know he
plays their loyalty card because it kind of does. He
kind of does, and you think about it and your
curree for example, I mean, he hasn't had the greatest season,
but he's still he's still he's still there every week
in week out. One of the guys from soft Wi's

(42:32):
Cup doesn't get a chance to take over, he's still
he's still playing week in week out, but he's not
learning lighting the world on fire is he?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
And and stuff?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
And he's a start, he's a star player and a
hundred k and he's not doing much, but he doesn't
get dropped. And again a player that we all love
new code, but he's just not he's not doing he's
not doing his job at the moment. And and there
are players that I'm sure are knocking on the door
and look what they've done. They won the minor Premiership
of New so fALS Cup last week, so in how

(43:02):
many what sixteen games? They won sixteen games straight? The
loved Well they haven't lost, Yeah, they haven't lost for
sixteen games. Yeah, exactly. So for me it's just like,
you know, it's just bizarre. And then you look at
what last week you know, I mean against the ballderlegs
again we just mentioned dropping down to Boyd in a
game where you thought that he would be perfect for
in terms of conditions, but that was that was bizarre

(43:22):
to me. And then to go with two hookers where
you've got bringing him Freddy Lassik to start the game
ahead of Sam Healey, who normally is a new So
just go back to the New Celf's Cup. Freddy Lastic
plays in Cup, so to Sam Healey who usually starts ahead,
who's usually starting hooker in New CEF I was Cup.

(43:42):
Those two are playing in the squad, Sam Hilly exactly.
But then you bring you bring you bring the guy
that's usually on the bench on or playing prop front
frow for yourself, I was cup. You bring him on
and you start them against the guy who's actually showing
a bit of form, showing a bit of grit out there,
and you start, you start them ahead of him, and
then you bring him on on the second half after

(44:05):
ten minutes into the second half to play thirty minutes.
It makes no bloody sense. It's really bizarre. And how
do you make a selection call like that? And again,
it's a do or die game, So there is a
door dye game because we need to stay in the
top four, because we really do need to stay in
the top four, because we need a life because I
can't see us winning winning straight away in the finals

(44:26):
if we're outside the top four, so we kind of
need that life. But yeah, so that's just another example.
And I just I just don't understand sometimes we'll be selections.
I just really don't get it. Sometimes. By going back
to your question, I wouldn't mind seeing Jack Cleary, but
I really think that he'll go with Obviously he's no
choice with Tomato Manterin out having to stand down because

(44:47):
of concussion, he'll have no choice but to bring Boyd
back in. But is Harris to be to the person
to be to compliment him? Is he the person to
compliment him?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah, Well he's obviously been there the whole season, isn't it. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, we're not We're in a position we
can be dropping dropping him. Yet maybe when when tomaw
Madam's foot, maybe you could put him on the beach
because he's a very handy, you know, very handy utility
play both half positions, can play, probably play okay, can

(45:21):
play a lot. He's played full back before as well,
So yeah, that would be potentially what what might happen
once everyone's foot. But I mean it's very late in
the season to be chopping and changing your halfs every week,
you know.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, no, I totally agree what you want to be doing.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I totally Actually, if you're losing games, you kind of
have to, you know, like it's obviously not not not working. Obviously,
that's what the thought of time on the board. You know,
we've only lost, We've lost, you know, with the only
one two of the four games he played, should have
probably lost three of the four games. And and and
there were all games that he sort of came into
his favorites or not far off so and obviously with

(46:07):
the with the same here they think, you know, I mean, ye,
they see a lot behind the scenes, you know obviously
how they would have been training a week you know,
and it would have been method to it. But unfortunately, Yeah,
the game plan just just didn't didn't pay off. And
it's easy to be asking the questions now. Uh, and
we'll see what what they what they do this week.

(46:30):
I imagine they'll probably both be in there, but hopefully
some common sense prevails and they do. I mean, obviously
heally brings a bit more spark, so that's probably one
of the reasons why there's the bigger body as well,
why he sort of comes on as a more as
he is a sort of impect player in what Lasica's
Lastica will do his job, but there's like a as

(46:52):
an extra sort of like you know, cover lock as well.
You know, he's been playing a bit of front row
and then yeah, I was cat, which just seems pretty bizarre.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
But he to me, Luss's more of a defensive hooker,
whereas Helly's an attacking end. He's got he's a he's
an all round hooker, you know what I mean. So,
but for me, the LUs like is not an attacking hooker.
He's just a defensive hooker. He's good, I admit, he's
reallys good. He's good in defense, but that's probably about it.
And yeah, so I'll just yeah, just the selections really

(47:23):
really do my head, and to be honest, doesn't make sense.
Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, the selections unfortunately.
But and but I agree with you, Like normally I
would say no, no, don't bring Jock Cleary in just years,
we're too far into the end of the season. Don't
don't put them in. Just you give them, give them
another pre season to go, you know, sort of thing
for next year. But the thing is, we're at a
point where we're kind of desperate. We're running out of halves.

(47:44):
Our star half is out. I'll see another half that
he brought in is out for hi A. And then
you've got a boyd who you know, he's on a
bit of a he's not he's not in a bad form,
but it's not like he's lighting the water and fire
again as well. So you got Harris Deavida who's definitely
not like the world on fire. I mean, his kicking
game is I mean, to be honest, you're gonna be
honest with it's quite terrible, especially in the last tackle.

(48:07):
You know, you watch him door it, he puts his
head down, just kicks it and hopes that it goes somewhere.
It's not like he's got any direction and stuff. And
a lot of the a lot of the a lot
of the balls that he was kicking, well, you know,
like especially when we were close to their line, were
landing five meters from their trial and you want it.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
A bit closer than that.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
So it makes the other team sort of jump up
and compete for it, so they know this is possibily
they knocking them, knocking the ball on. But because the
ball wasn't near the trial line, they were just leaving
it bounce, you know, or leaving us tep it back
because you know, they didn't so they don't get you know,
they don't get the era. But so that's why the
kicking for me was just just just yeah, it was
rubbish to me. But yeah, so and again answering your question,

(48:47):
Jack Cleary, I would I wouldn't. I wouldn't be against it,
but I don't think I didn't see it happening, but
I wouldn't. I wouldn't be against it. But yeah, you
would you be against it?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
No? Not at all? Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Mean nothing. You know a lot of people saying, oh,
you know, wait till each year, but yeah, I mean
but still a die in the weather. We've been playing
the last three or four weeks. It's just it's not
been not been good enough. And if we keep playing that,
we're obviously not going to make the eight. So I
think if we don't make the eight this yeah, this season,
it's it's it's a real you know, at one point
in the season that we you know, we were we

(49:21):
were sending an A and A for me. You know,
I had us really doing well. But because of how
we were we were if we were missed the eight
after being what will be six points clear or five
points clear of Panthers, really, yeah that must have been yeah,
five points a year, so you know, two wins ahead

(49:42):
with sex rounds to go and to come back and
if we were to seven rounds ago whatever it is.
But yeah, I'm suddenly Cat's it, CA's it happening. But hey,
gimless Tuesday is coming up, so I'll be watching and
I'm sure you will for what's probably a mass the
game against the Dragons. Yep, exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Is all right, Well, look just let me I'm gonna
ask you one quick question in regards to has to
Maidie Martin. I just want to quick yes, or no
answer with a little bit maybe like a twenty seconds
sort of explanation why it's been rumored that he's he's
going to sign on for another year because there's been
a lot of speculation about what he's going to do right,
you know, beyond the season. But apparently he's he's he's

(50:26):
poised to sign a one year extension with the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Good move or not? Yes or knowing why? Yep?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, I think. I mean, he's proved his provous value
when he when he gets a shot, you know, can
help out the cap team if anything, you know, and
and just be a bit out of statesman. And then
when he gets a shot on the fifth grade, he's
probably not going to be starting what you know, but
Mick Cathlee won't be coming deck for you know, till
probably half a third season, you know, like with us,

(50:56):
or maybe than that. But yeah, good to have a
but Blutra deeps and we've proven this year that we
need deeps and a half. So I don't mind a little.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, I mean I don't mind it at all either.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I Mean I thought I was a little bit surprised
just because of you know, you've got Jick Cleary, you
also got Metcalf coming back. And then you've also got
there I forgot as you've just head of mind blankings
before his name. This happens quite often to me on
the show for some reason. Then the new yourself Newcastle
Knights player Gy something.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Can remember his name? You remember?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yeah, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, but you know what I'm talking about, right, like
this young guy. And they've signed them on as well,
so they're any more harms in there.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
So I think he's he's he's coming back from an Andrew,
isn't he as well? He is? He is?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, he's a five eight more of a five eight,
more than a half like I think I think. But yeah,
so yeah, but I mean, yes, good good signing. Yes,
you know, why not?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You know he's always done the goods for the Warriors,
so yeah, why not? So he don wanted to ask
you that quick quick question? And another another question the
Warrior is there's been rumors about them apparently being interested
in from the Titans and you know, because he's been
shopped off now apparently you know, to other clubs, and

(52:06):
apparently the Warriors are interested. We don't have a lot
of speed on our wings, you know, you know, genuine
speed and yeah, so question again, yes or no? You
think it's a good he would be a goodbye and why.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, I think he'd be great buye. We've talked about
it on the on the pot of bat you know,
just the speed tong man. We don't have anyone who's
super fast. You know, We've got some good sort of
outside backs who can who can run it up. But
at the moment, you know, you look at the back five,
at the moment when you've got an a pompous number
one center, you know, like it could you know, bring

(52:42):
a bit of a change around. Obviously, Roger's future is uncertain.
There was talk a few weeks ago about him going
to some the Saudi Union lead or whatever it was.
I haven't really heard it follow up from that, but
I think he'd be great. He's super super fast and
I'm surprised at times. You know what it might be money,

(53:04):
thing might be I've seen something, But I think he
could he could come and make a make a spot
because yeah, we're really lacking and and pay games on
the weekend kind of shot. I mean maybe not maybe
on the weekend when it's it's that it's hard to
really show your face. But yeah, a couple of games
this year where we've just need needed a spark and

(53:26):
it's someone that fast can bring that.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
So yeah, fair enough. I mean, well they do go over.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I hope it's not like another Morgan Harper situation where
you sign someone like that and then they just played
a couple don't really get a chance, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Oh yeah, but I think Morgan Halper was different. He
was obviously different. Tended to play him and fifth grade.
If he hasn't played now, I thought the injuries on
the outside, but the why sign him?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Why sign him up? Then?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
You know, when you've got young talent coming through. So
I mean it's a funny one, but I hope this
isn't just another if Warriors do from hope. So it's
not a signing of someone hoping that they will come right,
you know, you know, you know sort of thing. But
you say he's got express pace, but who knows. But
I mean, I'd rather a lot of worries a couple
of times last year, so yeah, you know, we know
what he's hale. Yeah, but see o Carli would like

(54:12):
to see him get a go. I'd love to see him.
He deserves that. This is another another point were making
about solutions. He's proven himself, when is he going to
get his chance because the others that are doing, you know,
playing his position in first grade aren't doing the job.
I mean Roger. I'm not gonna say Roger because Roger's
actually been all good. But yeah, yeah, so there's that. Okay,

(54:34):
so there's that. So we're both I'm gonna say yes,
but I'm a little bit wary of it this. I'm
want to say, look, before we wrap it up, mate,
just want to give you, just ask you, just your
a question about the Dragons game. Obviously we don't have
the team list because you know that'll come out tomorrow.
So my question to you is because the Dragons are
in a bit of a bit of a bit of
a some hot form now, some good wins for them

(54:57):
of the last couple of weeks, a couple of weeks
sorry against Sharks and who remember who they beat the
week before, the Raiders. Yep, so they're doing pretty well
to beat those sides. And yeah, I just want to
see what do we have to do to beat the
Dragons this week?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Make a line breaker two? Because that is. Yeah, you know,
when you're yere playing the game zero line breaks, it's
not gonna not gonna help. Just keep up the completion,
you know. I think we've been pretty consistent around about
the eighty three percent, but just a little bit more
on a tech. You know, I think it's been a
real problem last three weeks.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
We've sort of just.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Really floated in there, floated in the out of games,
and we just need yeah, whover's playing in the halves
to really you know, take the ball by the horns
and lead the team. That's yeah, I think that's a
big one for me, is this year, whoever's playing in
the halfs just just just spark something. Need a bit

(55:55):
more from some of the from the out some of
the more senior players, you know, likes of little cloth
days but obviously been moved around at But it's really
hard for him. I'm not playing his perferred position, but
I think that you're gonna have to a picky in there,
and I think that there's the best way to make
sure that he's you know, you've got your seventeen on
the field. Don't like that this here is this silly

(56:18):
six agains and penalties to hear discipline anything they did
against the Bulldogs. Don't do that. That's my answer. That's
a proper answer.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I don't I think, Yeah, I'm just I'll keep it simple.
Just change the attack, do something better on a tack,
because you can't obviously, you can't win games if you
don't have an attack. And and yeah again, no Liane breaks,
no Loan breaks in the match, just just shows that.
Just yet, I don't get that. How can you go

(56:51):
any minutes without one line break? You know, one line
break or you don't you know, you don't break the
defense one time, and they don't.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I don't get that. I don't get that. To show
your helpful yeah, well look mate, we'll wrap it up there.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Usually we do tips and stuff. I hope you don't
mind me doing this, but I just think, because we're
so close to the end of the season and then
we're relying on other results and stuff like that, let's
just see how it goes with the other teams in.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
And we'll wrap it up there.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Look, it's gonna be interesting tomorrow night at six pm
when that team comes out.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Who's who's available and who's.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Who actually will he picks where we tends to change
doesn't usually bring his number one team anyway on six pm.
He doesn't usually be an hour before, an hour before kickoff,
so you know, no matter what line up, people up
what six pm. It's just I don't think it's going
to be the final one anyway, But let's just hope that,
you know, maybe Egan's back and if if he wants
to go with the two hook situation.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Have Healey on there, have Healy on there.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
I think he probably will be anyway because of you know,
the Mighty Martains out as well, so the lack of
lack of halves, I don't think you know, I think
he'll have Healy somewhere in there anyway. But look, we'll
wrap it up for any last comments before we finish
up here, mate.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
On just looking forward to a performance from the boys
this week and hopefully they can get the two points
the season back on track. And despite some of the
words of said today, I've still got full faith in
the boys and then the money.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Nice mate, I'm I'm with you on that one. Despite
like I'm again and it sounds like, you know, through
this episode we've you know, we've been just having a go,
but it's not really the case we still love the Wise,
we still back them, but we've just been being honest
about our our analysis of thing of you know, their
performances and what we want to see. But again again
with you, I'm with you. There, respect the Warriors. Thanks
everyone for listening tonight for another episode of Couch Warriors.

(58:37):
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Speaker 2 (58:44):
Everyone,