June 30, 2025 • 49 mins
That one didn't play out how we expected. John and Richard review the loss to the Broncos, start up the Adam Gee fan club, and put themselves in Webby's shoes and share their thoughts on the Warriors injuries woes, with Metcalf and CNK out for extended periods.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Here we go. Welcome to another episode of The Couch.
Why are yes here?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We are?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We talked here last week. John, I'm Richard de Ben
and Dade Letty. We talked last week. I'm here with John,
my co host John. How are you mate? You're feeling
all right after the disappointing? How the hell would you
describe that game? You know, disappointing? Just there was a
real hole in my heart when I was you know,
we'd go a party on Saturday night. There was a
(00:43):
real whole whole in my heart when I was gender people.
So how are you feeling after that game?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I can imagine how that had been a bit of
a bit of a party pooper, that loss.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But no, it's a what right words? Disappointing just took
me come a days to recover.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Put it that way. Let's thanks me a couple of
days together. Like I did a video for example, just
having just doing analysis. This is the quick analysis on
on the game on the night. I didn't usually get
to upload it to after midnight because it was that
hard to just you know, just to contemplate what just
what just happened? It was, Yeah, it was, it was.
It was a hard game to watch. It was a
tough game to watch. We've been saying that on our channels.
(01:20):
You know, it was a really tough game to watch
for many reasons. And it's not just because it was
the underwhelming performance, because you know, there were there were
some glimpses of where you know, they say you're a comeback,
but but there.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Were many other reasons. But we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So but yeah, like it was, it was a hard one,
very hard one, especially with the injuries to Charms and
Looke Metcalf that really put it you know, just made
it worse, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's or heartbreaking. But again we'll get back into that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So yeah, but other than that, yeah, like you hold
hold on the heart and it's a it's a tough
one to talk about, but it's a lot it's a
tough one to talk about, but there are a lot
of things to talk about as well.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, pretty play to talk about each and the injuries there,
so might just quickly you start there first of all
with Meetalf in particular, like do you think there was
any anything more on it as far as the tackle goes,
Do you think it was a bit dirty or safety
a player to.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Be okay, look, to be honest with you, when it
actually happened, I didn't sing it live.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It didn't look that bad. It didn't look bad to me.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Even in the even when they had the replays and
they know they they slowed down, et cetera, it still
didn't look that bad to me, because I mean, even
though the ball he could pass the ball and he
had him just after he passed the ball, he was
already in the motion of tackling. Did he hit the
ball he was going from when he had the ball?
You know it was it wasn't It didn't look dirty
to me. I know that sounds maybe Warriors fans will
(02:41):
have a goal before this, But to be honest with you,
it actually it didn't look bad. I just think it
was just a case of really bad luck where his
foot got planted on the ground and then the effect
of the tackle made it worse. I mean, if it
was thought that he had planted in the ground, wouldn't
even hit the injury.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Maybe he would have got you know, winded or some
of that.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Because I was in the ribs, But you know, maybe
he could have gone up and still didn't keep on playing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But I didn't think it was a dooty duty tackle.
I mean, I know there are some people out there
saying it was, but no, I mean that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
What do you What were your thoughts on that one.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm with you, bro, I didn't think there was anything
and that I thought it was just a good hit
and I originally thought he was just a but winded
and then he I think it's just this bad luck.
But you know, I don't think it was late, wasn't
wasn't high. It was just, yeah, it looked like a
pretty good hit from was it who was it Willison?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, no, no, bigger. Yeah. I was thinking Willison because Heavy
Nightmare is about him and the other that he had
had a great game for the Broncos, came off the
beach and was but yeah, bast woman's way up the
field throughout the game. So yeah, no, I I agree
with you, but just really really really unfortunate and well,
obviously we haven't nothing's confirmed yet, but there has been
(03:59):
some some indication that it might be might be an
at l and you know, we all know that that
means he'll be out for you know, the rest of
the season, and he's just gonna feel sorry for the guy,
you know, with his bad luck. Obviously broke his league
last year and you can't really can't catch your break.
He's in really bos form at the moment. So yeah,
(04:21):
just a real, a real, a real gut punch on
what was also a pretty sort of frustrating game to watch. There,
So a shout out to the lotule Metcalf. I'm sure
you're sure you're listening. You know, in the early days
of year Rehead obviously the wildst Faithfuller I thinking about you,
and then obviously Challenge went down just around around the
(04:41):
halftime mark as well. So and he yea similar like
we haven't seen the extent of his but you know
the Chadars doesn't seem as serious. But from what Andrew
Webs said, it sound like he differently would probably he'll
be out until weeks time as well, so there'll be
some some some changing changing around in there his head.
(05:01):
You know, he's been playing really good. Change he probably
had one of the you know, it wasn't wasn't fantastic
on the day. But yeah, just I'm in a real shame. Yeah,
I mean we can sort of we'll talk about a
little bit later, just quickly, who you have to go
to fall Back? You've got like we saw Roger go there,
we saw to Marion Mardin go there. Obviously to a
Pickies in the mats as well. Have you highlighted someone
(05:23):
to for that spot.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
To the week proposal? We need a date first before
we're going to those questions. No, no, no, I have
thought about this, and you know, I thought I thought
that would be coming up later on the story getting
from it now. No, I think to a pickie will
(05:50):
actually be the next person you know it fall back.
I think you know he's looked upon his the next
you next playoff directed you know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Us to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But it depends what what they want to do. In
thro is the wingers because you know, Puffey didn't have
you know, the best of games. But at the same time,
who you replace him with.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know, there's not.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Where we're really we don't have a lot of outside
backs at the moment. You know, there are a lot
of them are injured and unless you put you know,
Pompey on the wing and keep well into into in
the center. You know, you could go down that part
and then put them back into the second row. With
to partner out with it with Laban, sorry with Laban,
(06:36):
and then bring someone else onto the bench. You could
go down that path. Yeah, but I would just I
would assume to a Pickie would be the best one
to come back on. Yeah, you could also use to
Marti Martin as well. You know, he played fullback, but
I think to a Picky should be the person to
be come on.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, yeah, bitch, so it happens. I mean I thought,
you know, Roger didn't look out of place the other
day when he when he was thrown back there and
amongst all the all the chaos, and yeah, I mean
I talked about tomorrow manon recently. I thought his utility
was was probably best shown off in this game, the
fact that he I think he came on at Hocker
(07:13):
when the way Leagan was injured but you know, waiting
and went off with the b H I A. And
then he obviously went back to fall back and then
Win looked metcalfein out he went into the halts and
nearly nearly had a really beautiful tricis. Of course he
was just you know, maybe a meta or two ahead
of where you know, where he was. It was, it
(07:34):
was very probably should have been. So plenty of plenty
of selection acts for injury. Webster and the Warriors staff
as they go forward, well.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Just quickly get on.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean, I'm glad this time with they got it
right because in the in the previous game, you put
Tomato Martin at center at wing, you know, when he
came on, and that was just like why would you
put him there?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know, why would you put him there?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You might as well put Charms into the center because
he's played there before, and then put the man in
full back. For me, there was an I mean, I
know it's a different game, but there was an odd,
odd thing to do, you know, like play a stop
thing to do, you know, on the game. I know
it came because of injuries and stuff, but I thought
it was bizarre. So I'm glad at this time he realized, Okay,
this is the best thing to do, you know. I
mean there was Chalmes. It was into the years, I know,
(08:17):
but I'm glad that you know that tomn months stay
at fullback, said Roger going the and stuff. I know
Rogers and Turns there as well. So yeah, I'm glad.
I'm gonna loot from that as well.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, Yeah, it's insane yest thing. I think it was
before the Sharks game, and I think the Warriors said
a pressure Rea saying, you know, this is the first
time that we've had no injured players, you know, and
been about two years since it happened, and they've really
they've really shot themselves in the foot since then because
we've lost Barnett, we've lost fat least, and then now
it looks like Metcalf probably out for the season, chances
(08:52):
out for a couple of weeks. So let's see how
they can how they can sort of about to back
a much much need a buy coming up for we
fear four should probably dive into some of some of
the Broncos game and what went wrong for the Warriors. Well,
I'll talk about the old discipline. I saw that, you know,
(09:14):
and you're a little post you had, you you were
quite you were almost singing MG praises and blaming it
on the Warriors or disciplined John.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was not singing his praises. I mean I was
not singing his praises. I was not singing the praises.
I said that the Warriors, yes, ill discipline, and I
did say that energy, I agree.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
There's a lot of noise on around about his his
officiating on the night, and I thought he didn't do
well at all. I thought he was bad. I thought
he was a bit of a chunk, to be honest energy.
But I'm saying that we did we were ill disciplined
as well.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm just what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
We there was some like I'll give you one example
were were checked them forward did a couple of times
I think where he just you know, obstructed the the
boar runner so no the ball and the one that
the player was running through. He was a standing and
he blatantly just knocked him with the shoulder. And on
the replayers you can see it. There's no there's no like,
for example, accidental. He was like he was waiting for
(10:10):
the player to come and did it. So I don't
understand that for me, is just stupid. Why would you
do that because you're gonna get called out every time,
especially with the bunker having the eagle eye on everything.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. But
Adam gen turns of energy.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
If was not singing his praises, I was not singing
his praises at all totally.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I just think that the Warriors sought themselves on the
foot with their discipline, but at the same time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
They weren't getting a lot of calls to go their
way as well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Something there was some stupid calls made, and especially the
one with with Kerrigan went to get the ball women
behind him and he went to dive on and so
the Warriors went on it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And just because he technically didn't touch the ball a penalty.
He said, that was That's what I mean, it's a stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So this is what I meant by frustrating for many reasons,
For many reasons of the game was so frustrating because yes,
we were frustrating because we were doing some silly things.
We were making a lot of errors handling eras and
all that sort of stuff. The New Cure era. Right
at the start, you know, on the first set, that's
not a set of tone for everything, you know what
I mean, esperiously did that You're like, oh no, you know,
(11:17):
you know, like oh no, and then not just the eras,
but then there's six agains and then you know, like
the little blatant, little little disciplined and things that we're
doing that I just mentioned of Jackson fourth, But then
you had those bits of those bits where Kerrigan the
dad and then revolved off side. Nothing was going our way,
you know, and then it just yeah, that's what I
(11:37):
meant by it was a frustrating watch because on all
different counts. Yes, I'm not I'm not saying that we
lost because of the officiating. The fistiating was pretty bad,
but we didn't do ourselves any favors with our handling
eras and also old discipline.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's what I'm trying to say. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, ok, I'll give you that we didn't have such
in the first half. I think. Yeah, Like I mean,
you think about their first half of would have been
you know, sitting Neill pretty easily, I think, And we
were and and and you know, the Broncos scored the
first when the first team in the game and the
last player of the game as well. So and there
was some really there was some really brilliant sort of
(12:13):
goal line defense in between all that. I thought. The
fact that you know, the sort of calls were going
our way, we did pretty well to stay into it,
staying the game and if it was twelve and a
half time, I would have been over the moon that eighteen.
Neil just made that, you know a little bit harder.
We obviously came out fighting in the second half, scored
(12:34):
you know, a beautiful try through Roger and the you know,
spinning the ball out to the wing. Just beautiful ball
through the hands through through c h T and Pompey there.
I mean, yeah, Lika Hala Sema comes on and you know,
has one of those moments of brilliance from from the
Harrison Medicate. I don't know if you saw the Storm
(12:55):
Sharks game yesterday, John, did you do you watch that game?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I watched a bit of it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I watched it when it was like, the scores are
quite tight and then something came up and had to
deal with it when they came back just changed.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, because it was a Jerome Hughes and early they
had two two, maybe even three balls were just high balls.
They ran onto and packed up and it was just
it was a mirror image of what Halla Seenra had
done the night before. So yeah, I mean there was
still positives to come from the game, the fact that
(13:27):
we were able to sort of fight back. But yeah,
for me, I haven't been that frustrated by IF in
a while. And I think, I know, I think I
just started the game feeling really newvous because we've been
playing well. But I'm like, you know, it's the Broncos,
a team that I really really disliked. And then just
you know a few of those causes and when you
talked about carry them and like what what do that?
(13:48):
What do you do in that situation? You know, it
was sort of like you're supposed to do right, So
like the week before where you know, jackson Ford tackled
you know, someone knocked the born and then the book
the whistle had borne, so jackson Ford de steps smoked
the guy and then not called up for it. And
you're like, well, you know, you say, what's the head
and blown yet? So just give an injury to give
him pim the sets and stuff. Frustrating. Yeah, yeah, the
(14:11):
race Welsh, you know, like, yeah, probably got obstructed, but
he was about a meter and a half off side
quite clearly. The riff was just the other touch schedule
on either side of them. And then how they didn't
see it and and it was rare to see Andrew
websterite Fard and I I saw him in the in
the press conference, but he he had a he had
a goal as well. And yeah, I mean you don't
see that. You know, you see it from other coaches
(14:32):
a bit, you know, your likes of the rookie Stewart
and your Waye Bennetts and your your Bellamies and all that.
But to see it from from Webster sort of it's
interesting and they'll be interesting to see where anything comes
from it. With a little bit of apology for for a
couple of the calls, but I mean, at the end
of the day, they just they just weren't quite good enough.
They did well to sort of battle through the through
(14:54):
the injuries and and but just just a frustrating one
and the well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's well, that's it. I mean, look at Andrew web
so you don't, like you said, you don't really see
him do that. And that's how that's why I mean
by this game was so frustrating you're saying, I'm saying
everyone is saying it because the webs are saying. You
can see the frustration in his voice and what he
was saying, because like, what did the flipp and touch
judges do? What are they there for? Just what are
they what are they just are they did just for
(15:21):
the conversions, you know, because honestly they're right there and
they can't pick up anything. I mean, okay, just want
good But the controversy but you know that, well, you
know when man passed the ball out, you know that
it was a beautiful pass, and it looked like a beautiful
pass on the time. But then I saw this post,
this clip that I can't remember who the name of it,
but there were the two Broncos fans, they're the ones
(15:43):
that posted it, and the caption was, do you guys
think this was a try?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And then I should a slow motion and how the
boar goes forward?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now, I know when sometimes when you pass the ball
behind you, sometimes it will just float forward as the momentum,
you know, I know, I know that, so I'm not
it's not as we're talking about. But when you look
at it closely in slow motion like they put it,
it doesn't look like it goes out in the back
of their hands. It just floks forward. And then like
at the time when I watched it live, it just
looked like a beautiful ball. You know, You're like, oh, okay,
(16:12):
you can't give them back. You can't give them credit
for there theirselves just a beautiful ball and coffee was
way off as owing as well at the time, but.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He was too far in. Sorry, you know, it was
too far in. But yeah again there these were these
are Broncos fans, and they were like, was that, you know,
was this forward or not?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And then it shows the clip slow motion and then
it goes to them going and these are Broncos fans,
you know. They were like they're putting on their face
where they're like, I don't know about that one.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
So when you look at it, it's like, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But anyway, the point I'm trying to make with all
of that is that what are the flipping linesmen doing?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
What are they there for?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because they really really have they really say anything, you know,
and except for maybe conversions or puts the foot on
the on sideline or something, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But yeah, Andrew Webster even he said, I was right there.
What is it? Even he said, what is the what
are the touch's doing? I can see that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I can see the response was a mile of side,
so I don't think it was a mile of side,
but he was off side, so they would have been
the first, didn't it would have been the first infringement.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, but it was I felt foul play that's coming out. Yeah,
overrollered or anything. You know, it's just just a good
old fish and yeah, kidding in the way of the runner,
which we saw, as you mentioned, we saw a bit
of that. I think our algorithms are obviously showing similar stuff, John,
because I saw that this is the same video as well,
and I had I had a little little note Israel
(17:36):
Man passed that of running down over here. I'm glad
you bought it up. Yeah, I mean I didn't think
at the time watching alive, I was like, that's just
a really good pass. When you when you say it
from that angle, you're like, oh you can see. Yeah,
you wouldn't be surprised that was called up.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But yeah, not not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I think it was. It was the Broncos days and
they were they were getting rubber of the green and
such a sayl it was. It was good to see
the pin. Was it Eden Reynolds throwing the ball away
and then he got he got penalized for in the
end goal. Yeah, so yeah, at least we got one.
Maybe MG kind of realized it's been a bit mainstulids.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So yeah, it was frustrating. Like again, I think that's
that's that's just the right we were in is frustrating.
Frustrated again and I'll repeat myself here from what I
said to start frustrating because we just we were just
letting ourselves down. Our tech was clunky, we were we
(18:34):
weren't gaining really a lot of meters. We were making
so many errors. I mentioned, like, you know that by
the end of the first half, we only completed like
nine or ten seats, and that means we've had we
had a little ball and when they weren't you know,
we didn't complete all those sets. I mean we we'd
gone through seats, but you know, in the middle of
the seat will drop the ball or something will go wrong,
something will go wrong, and.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
All the broadcast hit all the position in all the positions.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So, like you said, we did pretty well bensidering that
the score wasn't you know, a big blowout.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Scores eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It looks it looks bad at half time they scored,
but they scored on the you know, right on half.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Time, and and you know it's just it was frustrating.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, a combination of everything officiating was really really bad.
We weren't the greatest as well, dropping balls and penalties,
ill disciplined. It was just it was just it wasn't
It wasn't out day. It wasn't that day for anything.
It was just frustrating, really tough to watch. But again,
like you said, stayed a little bit of come back
and the point we got to twenty points to twelve
(19:32):
when you thought maybe, you know, maybe just a glimpse.
But I think all the damage was done really from
the first half, and it was just too hard to
come back, especially when you lose chance and metcalf You
know me, but you're got to give it to the
boys or the courage they show. But Chush and I
have for you is do you think they brought on
Liqua too late? Because I was surprised that they brought
him on. I can't I can't remember. I can't remember
(19:54):
what minute he came on, But I don't think he
gone on in the first half at all. I don't
from my room, from my memories, I was quite surprised
because they brought val Munger on and he usually you know,
he lifted them up a bit. You know, he was
doing really well. And I'm surprised they didn't bring lequor on.
And I'm surprised that the Warriors don't do more of
those kicks towards the middle like car Toy in the
middle area where he's just so good in the air liquor,
(20:17):
he's so good in the ear and one times out
of ten he gets he catches those in scores a try.
So I'm not sure why they don't do that more often,
but hopefully they will do it more often. But yeah,
I just there'll there's a lot of a lot of
questions around the game, but I think will put even
a worse debt noor on it. As I said before
Luke mccalf and Chances been rolled out, I mean, there
hasn't been a lot more talk about Chance. There's been
(20:39):
more about metcalf because you know, even I'm saying a
cl no one's actually said what Chance did. And I
think I've heard someone say maybe like five or six weeks,
maybe ven injury, but wasn't as severe as Luke mutcalt.
Do you mean until we hear it from the officials,
Warriors officials, because we won't know, hoping for a miracle,
but it opens up doors for other players doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I think he came on in
the year, so he played minutes. It was a bit
I was at halftime. I was like, oh, this is
obviously part of the game plan. I mean, and to
to to an element at worked. You know, he came
off the bench and he put up some some big steps.
Obviously called scored that try, but like every time he
(21:23):
touched the ball, he was doubting off tackles and making
post content meters. So yeah, they're obviously just figuring out
what to do with him because there's been a few
games through he started and played sort of like he
posted eighty minutes, and he just doesn't seem to have
that same you know, he's still solid, but he doesn't
seem to have that same effect on the game, I reckon.
(21:45):
So maybe the yeah, the sceneon was more of a
pet player. But you know, we probably could have needed
them in their first time. You know, we were lacking
a bit, we were really lacking. I suppose the fact
that when thinking about the fact we were on the
back foot so much in that first time probably meant that,
you know that they more wanted to bring him on
when we're we're sort of you know, making the post
(22:06):
content meters and you know we were we were lucky
to get part over our three medal Liland defeat before
we were you know, kicking it on the last in
that game. Mate, so ship fishing at first half that
the Broncos medals were just we just carrying their way
up and they are. They're a pretty good team in
there when they're when they're on, there's some there's some
real talents in that Broncos team. So yeah, a Frustralian,
(22:32):
frustrating one. And I think with those big cats, the
medal just quickly. Yeah, Laban's really got catching them as well,
So I think definitely should be something we're looking at.
We're looking at putting those bombs up to the medal.
Harris de Veda seems to have picked up a couple
of quite a few trifles this year from from doing
those bombs to the middle. So yeah, maybe maybe we'll
be we'll see a bit more of the next couple
(22:54):
of weeks with the big boys.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, we looked, I mean, look, Rhythm one, they were good.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But the thing is, I think we made them look
better than they are, but than they were.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Sorry on on they think you know, we were giving
them too many easy rides up the field. They're middles.
They were running in the middle too easy. They were
getting through the.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
At the end of the day, I think I would
hear the post contact meds they.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Had actually through the whole game, they made five hundred
and sixteen post contact meters compared to our three hundred
and ninety, and they were just they were just running
through the middle of lo We kept on giving them
too much position at the field, and you know, through
those and through the stupid penalties as well. So it
was it was it was hard. We missed thirty six
tackles in the game. They only missed seventeen, and they
(23:47):
also had thirty six tackle breaks, so which is obviously
gonna miss tackles.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So but yeah, it was just a hard It was
just a hard watch. It's just a hard watch.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And I think that the buy has come has come
out the right time now because I've seen this in
the video that I did as well, was that, you know,
when we had the last buy, I thought, and I've
said this back then as well as that I'm not
actually happy that we're having to buy because we had
just come off our best performance of the season against
the Sharks, where we were so fluid against on defense
(24:22):
and attack. It was just a comp It was a
ten out of ten on both on both counts, and
we were amazing that night. We were we took them,
We were to all them apart. And I would love
to have seen that, just continue to go and then
had them wive a little bit later, you know, have
a few more games trying to play that way. I
think that, I mean, I know, you know, you can't
really say that that was the reason or not, but
(24:43):
I just wish we hadn't had to buy, and then
now we've got to buy it now coming up, it's
probably the right time to have to buy, because I
think the team just needs to sit down and reset.
They have to think things over again now because you know,
the most likely, the most likely I think it's going
to happen as Mick Carl is going to be up
we I mean, I'm really hoping in braining that that's
not the case, but there's very likely that you know,
(25:06):
he won't be there for the.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Rest of the season. So who do you bring in?
Is the number seven?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Because it's not just someone that you can bring in
just temporarily it's someone that's to have nail downe that
spot immediately, the number seven spot, and then you've got
get the reshuffle other areas as well, just because there's
all when you bring in different combinations, different combinations group
with different people, so so you know, you have to
regroup and rethink about how you're going to go about
the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So I've think the buyer has come at the right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Time in regards to where the worries about right now,
because they've got to figure about who they're going to
bring on because a lot of people calling across his head,
you know, you know, accident.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And stuff, but who are going who are going to
replace them with? Who are going to replace him with?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean we still
have talked about on the the sort of abuse some
of these players players keep these days. What were your
thoughts on some of the some of the words going
towards Cossi. Obviously, you know, I will say he didn't
have his greatest game, but it's been really good when
(26:06):
he had a chance this season. I think there's always
the rest with Cossi that he's got one of those
games in him and unfortunately this this was was one
of them. But there was some pretty pretty nasty, nasty
sort of words go around social media about that. How
did you how did that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Oh? Look, and this is another thing that brought off
brought up in a video.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I was quite quite surprised by the level of abuse
that he was getting on social media.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Look, and and we've always said, you know, when it
comes to our.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Opinions and you know, things like that, I think there's
nothing wrong with sharing your opinion, especially if it's with
a criticism, as long as it's that fair and healthy criticism.
Like I said in the video, for example, that we
know he didn't have a good game. He didn't and
we know it. You know, all the fans know it,
and he'll know it. I said this in the video,
and so look, I mean, imagine how he feels right now.
(26:57):
But then I just hope he hasn't churned on social
read I hope he's been wise about it and just
hasn't gone there, because the level of abuse is just
it's just it's just terrible, mate, It's just.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, there's no word, it's just terrible. It's a terrible end.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Look, I mean, just because he's a rugby league player,
a proficional league player, doesn't mean doesn't have those emotions
where those little things can just play with your mental
health and it can really really discourage you, and it'll
take a lot of it will take a lot for
him to get back on his confidence. Just because he's
a right league player doesn't mean he's a superhero and
(27:34):
he can just throw, you know, one of those sort
of comments aside and not worry about them. I'm pretty
sure they'll play on him, so you know, like you know,
he doesn't need this, so I'm really surprised.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I mean, yeah, but I failure, that failure. It's just yeah,
it's really sad that it gets out that and we
have to be kind of realistic. He's probably going to be,
you know, need to play him this week probably with
it with the sort of injuries we've gotten the outside back.
So it's not doing any good for the a team,
for him, for his mental house. And yeah, I mean
(28:05):
they have they can have a bad game from time
to time, but I don't think he didn't. He didn't
lose us the game, you know, like it's not like
like we were hot hot all around the field apart
from sort of his his discussions, and he wasn't the
only one who didn't play great as well. So if
you're out there, I see that. I said that that
last week or the week before, but just don't be
an egg, you know, don't be an eager if you're
(28:25):
all running your mouth on on on the keyboards, you know,
because yeah, don't do that. And you know, he's got
he's a human band, he's got family. So if you're listening, mate,
I suspect we'll see you in a couple of weeks
and I want to see see you score a head
track and I want to see you back to your
(28:48):
beer because he's honestly, you know, he's past three or
four games this year, and I think he's been really
good in all that. So hopefully we can just we
can get him back, you know, he can just get
himself back to back to there.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah. I mean, like, we get it, right, we get it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We understand why people are the fans are frustrated at
it because he didn't have a great game some really
really basic areas and.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Stuff and including on defense and attacks. But we get it.
Like you know that there's fear, there's some criticism.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
That's that's that's warranted in terms of a healthy criticism,
but you don't have to abuse them about it. And
the little of the wording that's been used on social media,
it's not it's not needed, you know. And you don't
even have to even express your criticism online.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You can give it to yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean, we do a lot of things online, but
we don't go abusing players and.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Stuff like that. So it's like, I don't know why
people do that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's why I was saying before about the Warriors fans,
some of the most passionate, greatest fans in the world,
you know in sports.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
You know that march that they did was awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know, it's just so that there were so many people,
didn't you lost You could kind of count there were
so many.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
But then.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
There was there's always an ugly side as well, where
they just abuse the players when something goes wrong. So yeah,
it's a hard one. It's a hard one. But you know,
like you know, yes, didn't have a great game. He
didn't have a great game, and he'll know it too,
So the best thing to do is just to try
and lift him up because you will need to begin
and if he comes back and plays in two weeks.
How how how will his confidence be Will he will
(30:18):
will this will this game be riding on his mind store?
And will the criticism still be riding on his mind store?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So here's an effect, so it's not needed.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, I think I think the club's in a position
now where like, yeah, like they'll you know, the boys
beginning behind him. You know, that seemed like a really close,
close knap group. So if there is you know, as playing,
and I'm sure there'll be, there'll be the support there
from from the rest of the team. And yeah, people
probably see him and see him in a couple of weeks,
(30:48):
especially with the sort of issues we've gone on the outside.
Backs just we haven't really talked to Bam, but you
know we saw Rockey Berry for what you know, I said,
like the first time in a while, how did your
says his game?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
To be honest, it's a hard one. And the reason
why sense it's a hard one because he just doesn't
really do much knowing. I think he just did his job.
I think he made one line break as well, not
in the match. I think he did his job. But
it's not like he was a standout or anything. So
but you know, like he's just like he's just coming back.
He's just coming back. We know what he can do,
(31:24):
So I might take him a couple of games to
go back into it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But it wasn't like I thought he was. He was,
he started, he still stood out for any reason, but
not Miny did not mind.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm just really hoping that we're here.
We can kind of see you know, we saw happ
but he can be, particularly in that twenty twenty three season,
and but I feel like we he's been hampered by
Andrey since then and just hasn't quite been able to
get back to his best. So hopefully he can. Yeah,
we can see him there in the next the next
couple of weeks. Should we see if we can fight
(31:55):
some highlights from the game. Should we give out our
valumes for the week?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah? Mate, you kick us off.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Mate, man, I'm gonna give my three to Roger a
bunch of shake. Yeah it was. It was a real
sort of straining light for the game. Scored a try,
had topped the run meters seven, the two meters off
eighteen runs, had that beautiful try saber on Krapani. You know,
laid in the game, which was just you know, that's
(32:22):
just bread and butter of a good a good fallback.
You know, you could imagine the likes of sort of
the disc goal, even you Billy Slayer back in the day,
sort of screaming across and doing that. So cool and
just yeah, awesome to see him, you know, back at
fall Back and to know that if if we even
need him to play there, he is obviously still got
those skills. Ye I got Harris to be there from
(32:47):
the two two points obviously set up there. You know,
try sis for that, try for HeLa Sema hit a
nice touch off to the left for Rogers, try struggled
a bit of the fifth staff, but I think, you know,
I'm attacked with the whole, you know, like our attack.
We just weren't able to get out of the sort
of thirty, you know, our own thirty pretty much. And
you know, and metcalf was seving lot of troubles there
(33:08):
as well, So yeah, he was sort of really leaning
leading the team in that second half. I think he
put up that Captain of Califenius try as Mitcalfe was
you know, on the ground clutching at his leg, so
he had too tries said he got pretty busy with
his running meters as well, had one hundred and six
running meters and defensively, he you know, we saw what
(33:29):
he's capable of for him a couple of a couple
of pretty huge hurts as well, So I like what
he saw from him and an a mention to see, yeah,
his role going forward, and I went kept captain she
Harris for by one point top the tech account of
thirty eight tackles had fourteen runs for one hundred and
twenty five meters, so it was one of that. I
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think he was the he ran the most of any Ford,
but just kind of like you know, in the middle,
we were really getting pushed around it. But but he
he stood up and was and was to the broncos
on both sides of the ball. So yeah, he got
my he got my one. How about you, my bro?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I had three for artists as well.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The same reason scored a good try was running the
ball really well, you know, a hundred one hundred meters
I mean undred one hundred plus meters for the game,
running meters in the whole game.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, I just thought he had a pretty solid game.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's hard for him to do more when you know,
like the balls that coming up till all the time,
you know, he was doing more of his running from
the back, you know, green getting the ball back, So
it would be nice if they spread the ball a
bit more. They did that towards the end of the
second halves that why are you waiting to do this now?
Should have done this way earlier. But yeah, so he
got a three VA gets my two.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I thought he was.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I think I think when he came on, liven things
up a bit, then hes some fresh leaks because obviously
the Warriors forwards were getting really fatigued from a lot
all the you know, the technical they had to do
in the first half.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So when he came on, I thought he did a
great job of lighting things up a bit.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
No, I think he's just he's brilliant. I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I mean, whether he's startling were on the bench and
you know, he live ends it up and I love
the fact that he's saw a young guy and he's
you know, he's in his getting he's learning his trade
really well in first grade. So yeah, right, among for
one and I had one for Lequa awesome try. I
wish he had come on a bit earlier the same
for the same reasons. I just loved these things up
a bit. You know, he gets the more. You know,
he's a lot of energy, and you know he likes
(35:24):
to create things. You know, you know something's going to
happen around it. So yeah, No, those are my three
two ones. And I mean one thing that we didn't
mention just before, sorry, not on the game as a whole,
and just just full of it now because of Lequas
is the fact that we did actually make some breaks.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But did you notice there was never someone there was
no support, run, no support run a bit. It was
never someone you know to.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You know, like I think Wade Egan made a break,
but he was looking around and there was no one there.
And then they throwed you the level fatigue that the
players had gone through because of all the tackling it
that I mean, I'm not saying we're bad because we
can't do it. I think that they were just fatigued,
and so there were opportunities, there were opportunities to do something,
but we were just every time it was just a
sniff of a break, there was no one there to
(36:08):
pass to. So where the Broncos were totally the opposite.
They made little break. There was always someone there to
give it to, so it didn't help Luke usually Metcalf
Metcal is the one that usually you know is a
strong support runner and when he was out and then
there's just out of the Christian.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
But yeah, there's just something another another another announces from
the game that I picked that fatigue.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But like the when when we have no position and
we live got all the position, it just tied you up,
because rye, it's a tiring game. Tied you up quickly.
And we did pretty well to hold them, hold them
off from scoring a bit more. And you know we
held them up a couple of times as well. So yeah,
good good on the boys for that. But yeah, I mean,
I'm pretty sure they won't be too happy, you know,
(36:50):
I'm pretty sure they won't be too happy about their performance.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So as a as a whole, yeah, I think it's today.
But because I can't win them all and hopefully they'll
be able to win a come back from the buy
in a couple of weeks, they'll be had to bounce
back and and bounce back. Have we sort of touched
on the on the fullback sort of situation before, but
there's obviously gonna be a glaring a mission in the halfs. John,
(37:17):
I know, you know, we've we've talked about in the
last few weeks about you know, you know who's necks
off the rents. Obviously Tomarow Martin's been coming off the
bench and playing in their utility role and he seems
to sort of make their fourteen juicy his zone. Have
you got him stopping it into the seven jersey having
been in the system or are you liking what you
see from Panna Boyds.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Tann of Boyd would be just a Australian for me,
not because I don't think Toromady Manton can't do it.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I think he can do it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
He's proven himself before. But I think with Luke metcalved out,
he brings them on its under Boyd and who can
actually manage the game really well. He's showing it Cup,
he's thrown it in the first gray before and he's
got a superiord kicking game to to Mandi Ones, I
think that's why you need him, need that. He's like
it's like a straight swap, you get what I mean.
Because they've got some of the skill sets he's a
(38:06):
running he's a runner as well. He's a runner.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He can manage the game well, and he's got an
awesome kicking game. He can kick well. From converted, he
converts well. So why wouldn't you put him in there?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And to money master In is strong in the areas,
but not as strong as tinn of Boyd in those areas,
So why wouldn't you put tn of boys straight in there?
And I mean, I know you so far as couple
is a different killer freshman. It comes to the competition
and who you're playing against. But you know ten ten
the Cup Boys are team from ten I think, or
nine from nine or ten from ten at the moment,
and yeah maybe there and he didn't play. I know
(38:40):
he didn't play because it was he was on the
extended bench. He's the Broncos. But he's been there for
a majority of the season and a lot of it's
you know, he's played a big part, big hand he
put play your big hand and the success of the
said Cup side.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
So for me, it'll be a straight swap. I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I know that Tomy Mason didn't do that great at
five eight. I wouldn't mind seeing him at five eight.
I think that Harris de Vita, even though people might say, oh,
why would you do that? Why would you take harrist
Vita out? Because you know, if it's not if it's
not broken, why you know if it's not broken, why
do you you know something?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You know?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
But I just think as in terms of what's better,
in terms of what the combinations except, et cetera, for
the team, I think he might be better as a
utility because he can cover howker, he can cover the halves,
and if need be, he could probably plays the forward
because he's we know, we know what he can do
in defense. He's actually said some big guys before and
he's knocked them back. So I actually think he'll be
(39:34):
better used as the utility.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
That's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I know that Tonight Madon hasn't always been the greatest,
say at five eight, but if you look at the
season so far, Harris to beata, you know he's he
hasn't really been the game manager.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
It's always been Luke mcalfe doing it, doing it all.
You know, he's been doing it all.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Harris Vida will be going to pull on the odd
kick here too, But I think it's all, it's all
Luke mcalf So yeah, i'd be short swapping through your
question Town of Boys, straight swap and maybe, I mean
I would like to see Tomato maudn't heavy go, but
I don't think it will happen with this, just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
What about yourself?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, well, I mean you say hasn't done much this year.
He's got thirteen thirding trysis though five tries for himself,
kicking toog and twenty one millions a game, forced a
couple of dropouts obviously pretty pretty good defensively, So uh no,
I mean I definitely be keeping him at Sex. We
(40:31):
saw last year what what happened when when Tomorrow Madam
was given the six jersey, and a lot of that
was probably because Shawn Johnson was was the dominant half,
and you know like when Tomorrow Mardon Hadnes had a
shot at seven, he was the basically looked like the
big topic in the pump and then and then but nah,
(40:52):
I mean yeah, I mean, looking at Tanna Boyd's sets
for a New So World Cup obviously, but yeah, thirteen
games he's kicking God kicking at eighty eighty percent, which
is which is good thing. I think Mick cass been
doing sixteen triassis team line break assist and uh yeah,
(41:15):
it doesn't mind, you know, running about seventy meters a game,
so he does have a bit of that better that
running and running in them as well. So I would
like for I've seen from Tamao and Madden is playing
is the utility and he does offer offer a lot
there as well. So yeah, I think I think Tanner
Boyd and just even seems like and he's been playing
every week as well, you know, like he's been he's
(41:36):
actually been getting regular eighty minute games. To my man
has been playing a lot, you know, sort of training
a lot obviously and to change. And I think Andrews
did say that that the way they turned ma and
Manain has been used is they have been using them
you know, in the half at fall back and then
hooker in various positions.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So yeah, I'd like to be league another go. I thought,
I love saying here. I think he's awesome and I
know that he's not gonna take waiting in spot. I
know that we all we all know that, but I
love to see like a spot made from on the bench.
I don't know how you do that with the utility
and a hooker in just two forwards. But I would
(42:15):
love to see that, And the only way I can
see that happening is if Kate Well goes into center.
You know, Kate Well goes into center and opening the
door for Lecker to go back into starting, you know,
in the second row, and then his bench spot goes
to Healey or someone else. But well, you know, I
probably i'd rather start Jackson Ford. To be honest in
your fire, I think you could have probably been off
(42:36):
the bench. I don't know why, but I just I
just think that not because of what he did the game.
The first said, nothing to do with that, because he's
had a pretty good season. But yeah, there's there's a
it's interesting. There's a lot of there's there's this depth
and there's a lot of options are but it just
it comes down to which which what plays best, what
works best for the team, And I just think Sam
(42:56):
Healey could probably play in Locke as well if Aaron
Clark came off, because he did come off in this game,
you're implied she did come off briefly. So yeah, it's
gonna be interesting. The next team this Tuesday, which is
obviously not to not tomorrow. It's Monday night here is
not tomorrow, it's the next Tuesday. It'll be interesting to
see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, so well, And I just was thinking about it
before when we're playing with Tiger to what we play?
Who will played next weekend and when it comes to
that game, I think it's on the set of that
would have been five weeks since the Warriors lighted a
when so yeah, definitely hopefully we'll be Joe, we're back
at home and playing against a Tiger's team who were having.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
The game. Yeah, I've been wanting to them. By the way,
we we we don't live in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Just for all the listeners out there, we'll be watching,
We're not We're not Auklanders, so.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I'll be going to that game. But yeah'll be interesting
to see the selection.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, but the good thing is about the Warriors, you
know this season is in the squads, you know, you
know it's quite quite beat up in deps. You know,
you know, you was doing really well. Just gives you
some options to use, but you're not not everyone who's
experienced yet to play first grade yet. But yeah, it's interesting,
It will be interesting, But I can't see. I can't
see tele Boyd missing out. I think he'll be He'll
(44:15):
be there. Yeah, yeah, we'll be watching with.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Keen eyes come next Tuesday. Do we run through a
QUT branded.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Chips and fill it in for the day, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So obviously no Worries game this weeking there's five five
L games on to the Sinki Teeth and two sad
enough of the Bulldogs and the Broncos on Thursday night.
No Origin players obviously, but Bill obviously wanting to get
some revenge revenge on the Broncos after they took the town.
(44:50):
And it's cole for about two months ago. Who you
is sort of lying that p Obviously no teams yet,
but yeah, no Origin players. They're both missing about three
players I think.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Bulldogs, I mean I know they're missing players, and I
just the way they played their game against Penri that
was that was an intense game.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
And yeah, they play like that. Ify If they play
that every week, it'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
So even with some missing players that I think, you know,
across the board, they've got some styles, They've got some
really quality players. So because I don't like to say that,
because I don't like the Bulldogs or for the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
But yeah, I'll give it to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I'll go the Broncos just to be different Ratherden Dragons
up next. Brothers obviously missing heads and Yang, and the
Dragon's missing the homes.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
As well because he got named of the Maroon squad retirement.
It's come out of it's come out of representative retirement,
and he's playing for the Maroons.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I looked at it too. I'm after smashing the thought
about that, by the way, But anyway, yeah, all that
I can get, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
You can't really say that after he just lost to.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Them, making they wanted to make it a you know,
a serious it's good, good for the album, for the finances.
Heaving the game three at home.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
So okay, here we go, here we go, all right,
but I'll go I'll Raiders.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yes, Cat cannot beat the Dragons at the moment. Cowboys Storm,
Cowboys gotta win, about to need a win against the Titans. Storm.
Yeah ran away against the Sharks obviously, Storm, but Will
were missing a few origin players. It is all the Cowboys. Yeah,
I mean I probably I'm going to have to Storm. Yeah,
(46:40):
he Roasters. Tigers up next. Roasters have been looking pretty good.
Tiger has been looking pretty bad. I had to just
once again a few players out. But Tiger's are missing
the little wife. And you still saw on Friday night
that they just shove the team that they could be
(47:00):
without the life. So I'm gonna go the Ruses. Yeah,
thanks Ruses and Seagles Reblos to finish it off. Revenues
have got the line throw them for the season, They've
had fifty points scored against them, so yeah, they can't
win their being final apparently in the Seagulls sort of
looks looks pretty good on on Tuesday night Friday night,
(47:23):
but it was against the yestraveling Tigers team. So I'm
gonna go the Rebeos to pull off the wood away
from home. There I'll go.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I'll go mainly because I'm fifty fifty on it.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I'll go mainly easy cool. Well, let's surround our tips
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(48:15):
all all that sort of stuff. John, anything you want
to say before we call in for the week.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
No, no, just just recuring what you just said. Thanks
to everyone for listening. We've been doing this for two
seasons now. When we started and and as we mentioned before,
you know, we started just getting getting a groove on.
And now this season we decided to take a bit
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(48:42):
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now is really well, so come come coming out.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
So thanks for everyone for supporting us. And she just
here the love. We love. We love doing this.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
So she had the love, you know, and we'll keep going.
So yeah, thanks everyone, and up the wires and and
you know, abut to the plays.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah big as baby big yeah, all right, play you
line up, have a good one. AP the Wist, the Worst,
Here we go. Welcome to another episode of The Couch.
Why are yes here?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We are?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We talked here last week. John, I'm Richard de Ben
and Dade Letty. We talked last week. I'm here with John,
my co host John. How are you mate? You're feeling
all right after the disappointing? How the hell would you
describe that game? You know, disappointing? Just there was a
real hole in my heart when I was you know,
we'd go a party on Saturday night. There was a
(00:43):
real whole whole in my heart when I was gender people.
So how are you feeling after that game?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I can imagine how that had been a bit of
a bit of a party pooper, that loss.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But no, it's a what right words? Disappointing just took
me come a days to recover.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Put it that way. Let's thanks me a couple of
days together. Like I did a video for example, just
having just doing analysis. This is the quick analysis on
on the game on the night. I didn't usually get
to upload it to after midnight because it was that
hard to just you know, just to contemplate what just
what just happened? It was, Yeah, it was, it was.
It was a hard game to watch. It was a
tough game to watch. We've been saying that on our channels.
(01:20):
You know, it was a really tough game to watch
for many reasons. And it's not just because it was
the underwhelming performance, because you know, there were there were
some glimpses of where you know, they say you're a comeback,
but but there.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Were many other reasons. But we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So but yeah, like it was, it was a hard one,
very hard one, especially with the injuries to Charms and
Looke Metcalf that really put it you know, just made
it worse, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's or heartbreaking. But again we'll get back into that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So yeah, but other than that, yeah, like you hold
hold on the heart and it's a it's a tough
one to talk about, but it's a lot it's a
tough one to talk about, but there are a lot
of things to talk about as well.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, pretty play to talk about each and the injuries there,
so might just quickly you start there first of all
with Meetalf in particular, like do you think there was
any anything more on it as far as the tackle goes,
Do you think it was a bit dirty or safety
a player to.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Be okay, look, to be honest with you, when it
actually happened, I didn't sing it live.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It didn't look that bad. It didn't look bad to me.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Even in the even when they had the replays and
they know they they slowed down, et cetera, it still
didn't look that bad to me, because I mean, even
though the ball he could pass the ball and he
had him just after he passed the ball, he was
already in the motion of tackling. Did he hit the
ball he was going from when he had the ball?
You know it was it wasn't It didn't look dirty
to me. I know that sounds maybe Warriors fans will
(02:41):
have a goal before this, But to be honest with you,
it actually it didn't look bad. I just think it
was just a case of really bad luck where his
foot got planted on the ground and then the effect
of the tackle made it worse. I mean, if it
was thought that he had planted in the ground, wouldn't
even hit the injury.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Maybe he would have got you know, winded or some
of that.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Because I was in the ribs, But you know, maybe
he could have gone up and still didn't keep on playing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But I didn't think it was a dooty duty tackle.
I mean, I know there are some people out there
saying it was, but no, I mean that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
What do you What were your thoughts on that one.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm with you, bro, I didn't think there was anything
and that I thought it was just a good hit
and I originally thought he was just a but winded
and then he I think it's just this bad luck.
But you know, I don't think it was late, wasn't
wasn't high. It was just, yeah, it looked like a
pretty good hit from was it who was it Willison?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, no, no, bigger. Yeah. I was thinking Willison because Heavy
Nightmare is about him and the other that he had
had a great game for the Broncos, came off the
beach and was but yeah, bast woman's way up the
field throughout the game. So yeah, no, I I agree
with you, but just really really really unfortunate and well,
obviously we haven't nothing's confirmed yet, but there has been
(03:59):
some some indication that it might be might be an
at l and you know, we all know that that
means he'll be out for you know, the rest of
the season, and he's just gonna feel sorry for the guy,
you know, with his bad luck. Obviously broke his league
last year and you can't really can't catch your break.
He's in really bos form at the moment. So yeah,
(04:21):
just a real, a real, a real gut punch on
what was also a pretty sort of frustrating game to watch. There,
So a shout out to the lotule Metcalf. I'm sure
you're sure you're listening. You know, in the early days
of year Rehead obviously the wildst Faithfuller I thinking about you,
and then obviously Challenge went down just around around the
(04:41):
halftime mark as well. So and he yea similar like
we haven't seen the extent of his but you know
the Chadars doesn't seem as serious. But from what Andrew
Webs said, it sound like he differently would probably he'll
be out until weeks time as well, so there'll be
some some some changing changing around in there his head.
(05:01):
You know, he's been playing really good. Change he probably
had one of the you know, it wasn't wasn't fantastic
on the day. But yeah, just I'm in a real shame. Yeah,
I mean we can sort of we'll talk about a
little bit later, just quickly, who you have to go
to fall Back? You've got like we saw Roger go there,
we saw to Marion Mardin go there. Obviously to a
Pickies in the mats as well. Have you highlighted someone
(05:23):
to for that spot.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
To the week proposal? We need a date first before
we're going to those questions. No, no, no, I have
thought about this, and you know, I thought I thought
that would be coming up later on the story getting
from it now. No, I think to a pickie will
(05:50):
actually be the next person you know it fall back.
I think you know he's looked upon his the next
you next playoff directed you know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Us to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But it depends what what they want to do. In
thro is the wingers because you know, Puffey didn't have
you know, the best of games. But at the same time,
who you replace him with.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know, there's not.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Where we're really we don't have a lot of outside
backs at the moment. You know, there are a lot
of them are injured and unless you put you know,
Pompey on the wing and keep well into into in
the center. You know, you could go down that part
and then put them back into the second row. With
to partner out with it with Laban, sorry with Laban,
(06:36):
and then bring someone else onto the bench. You could
go down that path. Yeah, but I would just I
would assume to a Pickie would be the best one
to come back on. Yeah, you could also use to
Marti Martin as well. You know, he played fullback, but
I think to a Picky should be the person to
be come on.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, yeah, bitch, so it happens. I mean I thought,
you know, Roger didn't look out of place the other
day when he when he was thrown back there and
amongst all the all the chaos, and yeah, I mean
I talked about tomorrow manon recently. I thought his utility
was was probably best shown off in this game, the
fact that he I think he came on at Hocker
(07:13):
when the way Leagan was injured but you know, waiting
and went off with the b H I A. And
then he obviously went back to fall back and then
Win looked metcalfein out he went into the halts and
nearly nearly had a really beautiful tricis. Of course he
was just you know, maybe a meta or two ahead
of where you know, where he was. It was, it
(07:34):
was very probably should have been. So plenty of plenty
of selection acts for injury. Webster and the Warriors staff
as they go forward, well.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Just quickly get on.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean, I'm glad this time with they got it
right because in the in the previous game, you put
Tomato Martin at center at wing, you know, when he
came on, and that was just like why would you
put him there?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know, why would you put him there?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You might as well put Charms into the center because
he's played there before, and then put the man in
full back. For me, there was an I mean, I
know it's a different game, but there was an odd,
odd thing to do, you know, like play a stop
thing to do, you know, on the game. I know
it came because of injuries and stuff, but I thought
it was bizarre. So I'm glad at this time he realized, Okay,
this is the best thing to do, you know. I
mean there was Chalmes. It was into the years, I know,
(08:17):
but I'm glad that you know that tomn months stay
at fullback, said Roger going the and stuff. I know
Rogers and Turns there as well. So yeah, I'm glad.
I'm gonna loot from that as well.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, Yeah, it's insane yest thing. I think it was
before the Sharks game, and I think the Warriors said
a pressure Rea saying, you know, this is the first
time that we've had no injured players, you know, and
been about two years since it happened, and they've really
they've really shot themselves in the foot since then because
we've lost Barnett, we've lost fat least, and then now
it looks like Metcalf probably out for the season, chances
(08:52):
out for a couple of weeks. So let's see how
they can how they can sort of about to back
a much much need a buy coming up for we
fear four should probably dive into some of some of
the Broncos game and what went wrong for the Warriors. Well,
I'll talk about the old discipline. I saw that, you know,
(09:14):
and you're a little post you had, you you were
quite you were almost singing MG praises and blaming it
on the Warriors or disciplined John.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was not singing his praises. I mean I was
not singing his praises. I was not singing the praises.
I said that the Warriors, yes, ill discipline, and I
did say that energy, I agree.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
There's a lot of noise on around about his his
officiating on the night, and I thought he didn't do
well at all. I thought he was bad. I thought
he was a bit of a chunk, to be honest energy.
But I'm saying that we did we were ill disciplined
as well.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm just what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
We there was some like I'll give you one example
were were checked them forward did a couple of times
I think where he just you know, obstructed the the
boar runner so no the ball and the one that
the player was running through. He was a standing and
he blatantly just knocked him with the shoulder. And on
the replayers you can see it. There's no there's no like,
for example, accidental. He was like he was waiting for
(10:10):
the player to come and did it. So I don't
understand that for me, is just stupid. Why would you
do that because you're gonna get called out every time,
especially with the bunker having the eagle eye on everything.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. But
Adam gen turns of energy.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
If was not singing his praises, I was not singing
his praises at all totally.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I just think that the Warriors sought themselves on the
foot with their discipline, but at the same time.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
They weren't getting a lot of calls to go their
way as well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Something there was some stupid calls made, and especially the
one with with Kerrigan went to get the ball women
behind him and he went to dive on and so
the Warriors went on it.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And just because he technically didn't touch the ball a penalty.
He said, that was That's what I mean, it's a stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So this is what I meant by frustrating for many reasons,
For many reasons of the game was so frustrating because yes,
we were frustrating because we were doing some silly things.
We were making a lot of errors handling eras and
all that sort of stuff. The New Cure era. Right
at the start, you know, on the first set, that's
not a set of tone for everything, you know what
I mean, esperiously did that You're like, oh no, you know,
(11:17):
you know, like oh no, and then not just the eras,
but then there's six agains and then you know, like
the little blatant, little little disciplined and things that we're
doing that I just mentioned of Jackson fourth, But then
you had those bits of those bits where Kerrigan the
dad and then revolved off side. Nothing was going our way,
you know, and then it just yeah, that's what I
(11:37):
meant by it was a frustrating watch because on all
different counts. Yes, I'm not I'm not saying that we
lost because of the officiating. The fistiating was pretty bad,
but we didn't do ourselves any favors with our handling
eras and also old discipline.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's what I'm trying to say. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, ok, I'll give you that we didn't have such
in the first half. I think. Yeah, Like I mean,
you think about their first half of would have been
you know, sitting Neill pretty easily, I think, And we
were and and and you know, the Broncos scored the
first when the first team in the game and the
last player of the game as well. So and there
was some really there was some really brilliant sort of
(12:13):
goal line defense in between all that. I thought. The
fact that you know, the sort of calls were going
our way, we did pretty well to stay into it,
staying the game and if it was twelve and a
half time, I would have been over the moon that eighteen.
Neil just made that, you know a little bit harder.
We obviously came out fighting in the second half, scored
(12:34):
you know, a beautiful try through Roger and the you know,
spinning the ball out to the wing. Just beautiful ball
through the hands through through c h T and Pompey there.
I mean, yeah, Lika Hala Sema comes on and you know,
has one of those moments of brilliance from from the
Harrison Medicate. I don't know if you saw the Storm
(12:55):
Sharks game yesterday, John, did you do you watch that game?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I watched a bit of it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I watched it when it was like, the scores are
quite tight and then something came up and had to
deal with it when they came back just changed.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, because it was a Jerome Hughes and early they
had two two, maybe even three balls were just high balls.
They ran onto and packed up and it was just
it was a mirror image of what Halla Seenra had
done the night before. So yeah, I mean there was
still positives to come from the game, the fact that
(13:27):
we were able to sort of fight back. But yeah,
for me, I haven't been that frustrated by IF in
a while. And I think, I know, I think I
just started the game feeling really newvous because we've been
playing well. But I'm like, you know, it's the Broncos,
a team that I really really disliked. And then just
you know a few of those causes and when you
talked about carry them and like what what do that?
(13:48):
What do you do in that situation? You know, it
was sort of like you're supposed to do right, So
like the week before where you know, jackson Ford tackled
you know, someone knocked the born and then the book
the whistle had borne, so jackson Ford de steps smoked
the guy and then not called up for it. And
you're like, well, you know, you say, what's the head
and blown yet? So just give an injury to give
him pim the sets and stuff. Frustrating. Yeah, yeah, the
(14:11):
race Welsh, you know, like, yeah, probably got obstructed, but
he was about a meter and a half off side
quite clearly. The riff was just the other touch schedule
on either side of them. And then how they didn't
see it and and it was rare to see Andrew
websterite Fard and I I saw him in the in
the press conference, but he he had a he had
a goal as well. And yeah, I mean you don't
see that. You know, you see it from other coaches
(14:32):
a bit, you know, your likes of the rookie Stewart
and your Waye Bennetts and your your Bellamies and all that.
But to see it from from Webster sort of it's
interesting and they'll be interesting to see where anything comes
from it. With a little bit of apology for for a
couple of the calls, but I mean, at the end
of the day, they just they just weren't quite good enough.
They did well to sort of battle through the through
(14:54):
the injuries and and but just just a frustrating one
and the well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's well, that's it. I mean, look at Andrew web
so you don't, like you said, you don't really see
him do that. And that's how that's why I mean
by this game was so frustrating you're saying, I'm saying
everyone is saying it because the webs are saying. You
can see the frustration in his voice and what he
was saying, because like, what did the flipp and touch
judges do? What are they there for? Just what are
they what are they just are they did just for
(15:21):
the conversions, you know, because honestly they're right there and
they can't pick up anything. I mean, okay, just want
good But the controversy but you know that, well, you
know when man passed the ball out, you know that
it was a beautiful pass, and it looked like a beautiful
pass on the time. But then I saw this post,
this clip that I can't remember who the name of it,
but there were the two Broncos fans, they're the ones
(15:43):
that posted it, and the caption was, do you guys
think this was a try?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And then I should a slow motion and how the
boar goes forward?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now, I know when sometimes when you pass the ball
behind you, sometimes it will just float forward as the momentum,
you know, I know, I know that, so I'm not
it's not as we're talking about. But when you look
at it closely in slow motion like they put it,
it doesn't look like it goes out in the back
of their hands. It just floks forward. And then like
at the time when I watched it live, it just
looked like a beautiful ball. You know, You're like, oh, okay,
(16:12):
you can't give them back. You can't give them credit
for there theirselves just a beautiful ball and coffee was
way off as owing as well at the time, but.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He was too far in. Sorry, you know, it was
too far in. But yeah again there these were these
are Broncos fans, and they were like, was that, you know,
was this forward or not?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And then it shows the clip slow motion and then
it goes to them going and these are Broncos fans,
you know. They were like they're putting on their face
where they're like, I don't know about that one.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
So when you look at it, it's like, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But anyway, the point I'm trying to make with all
of that is that what are the flipping linesmen doing?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
What are they there for?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because they really really have they really say anything, you know,
and except for maybe conversions or puts the foot on
the on sideline or something, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But yeah, Andrew Webster even he said, I was right there.
What is it? Even he said, what is the what
are the touch's doing? I can see that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I can see the response was a mile of side,
so I don't think it was a mile of side,
but he was off side, so they would have been
the first, didn't it would have been the first infringement.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, but it was I felt foul play that's coming out. Yeah,
overrollered or anything. You know, it's just just a good
old fish and yeah, kidding in the way of the runner,
which we saw, as you mentioned, we saw a bit
of that. I think our algorithms are obviously showing similar stuff, John,
because I saw that this is the same video as well,
and I had I had a little little note Israel
(17:36):
Man passed that of running down over here. I'm glad
you bought it up. Yeah, I mean I didn't think
at the time watching alive, I was like, that's just
a really good pass. When you when you say it
from that angle, you're like, oh you can see. Yeah,
you wouldn't be surprised that was called up.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But yeah, not not.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I think it was. It was the Broncos days and
they were they were getting rubber of the green and
such a sayl it was. It was good to see
the pin. Was it Eden Reynolds throwing the ball away
and then he got he got penalized for in the
end goal. Yeah, so yeah, at least we got one.
Maybe MG kind of realized it's been a bit mainstulids.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So yeah, it was frustrating. Like again, I think that's
that's that's just the right we were in is frustrating.
Frustrated again and I'll repeat myself here from what I
said to start frustrating because we just we were just
letting ourselves down. Our tech was clunky, we were we
(18:34):
weren't gaining really a lot of meters. We were making
so many errors. I mentioned, like, you know that by
the end of the first half, we only completed like
nine or ten seats, and that means we've had we
had a little ball and when they weren't you know,
we didn't complete all those sets. I mean we we'd
gone through seats, but you know, in the middle of
the seat will drop the ball or something will go wrong,
something will go wrong, and.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
All the broadcast hit all the position in all the positions.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So, like you said, we did pretty well bensidering that
the score wasn't you know, a big blowout.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Scores eighteen.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It looks it looks bad at half time they scored,
but they scored on the you know, right on half.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Time, and and you know it's just it was frustrating.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, a combination of everything officiating was really really bad.
We weren't the greatest as well, dropping balls and penalties,
ill disciplined. It was just it was just it wasn't
It wasn't out day. It wasn't that day for anything.
It was just frustrating, really tough to watch. But again,
like you said, stayed a little bit of come back
and the point we got to twenty points to twelve
(19:32):
when you thought maybe, you know, maybe just a glimpse.
But I think all the damage was done really from
the first half, and it was just too hard to
come back, especially when you lose chance and metcalf You
know me, but you're got to give it to the
boys or the courage they show. But Chush and I
have for you is do you think they brought on
Liqua too late? Because I was surprised that they brought
him on. I can't I can't remember. I can't remember
(19:54):
what minute he came on, But I don't think he
gone on in the first half at all. I don't
from my room, from my memories, I was quite surprised
because they brought val Munger on and he usually you know,
he lifted them up a bit. You know, he was
doing really well. And I'm surprised they didn't bring lequor on.
And I'm surprised that the Warriors don't do more of
those kicks towards the middle like car Toy in the
middle area where he's just so good in the air liquor,
(20:17):
he's so good in the ear and one times out
of ten he gets he catches those in scores a try.
So I'm not sure why they don't do that more often,
but hopefully they will do it more often. But yeah,
I just there'll there's a lot of a lot of
questions around the game, but I think will put even
a worse debt noor on it. As I said before
Luke mccalf and Chances been rolled out, I mean, there
hasn't been a lot more talk about Chance. There's been
(20:39):
more about metcalf because you know, even I'm saying a
cl no one's actually said what Chance did. And I
think I've heard someone say maybe like five or six weeks,
maybe ven injury, but wasn't as severe as Luke mutcalt.
Do you mean until we hear it from the officials,
Warriors officials, because we won't know, hoping for a miracle,
but it opens up doors for other players doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I think he came on in
the year, so he played minutes. It was a bit
I was at halftime. I was like, oh, this is
obviously part of the game plan. I mean, and to
to to an element at worked. You know, he came
off the bench and he put up some some big steps.
Obviously called scored that try, but like every time he
(21:23):
touched the ball, he was doubting off tackles and making
post content meters. So yeah, they're obviously just figuring out
what to do with him because there's been a few
games through he started and played sort of like he
posted eighty minutes, and he just doesn't seem to have
that same you know, he's still solid, but he doesn't
seem to have that same effect on the game, I reckon.
(21:45):
So maybe the yeah, the sceneon was more of a
pet player. But you know, we probably could have needed
them in their first time. You know, we were lacking
a bit, we were really lacking. I suppose the fact
that when thinking about the fact we were on the
back foot so much in that first time probably meant that,
you know that they more wanted to bring him on
when we're we're sort of you know, making the post
(22:06):
content meters and you know we were we were lucky
to get part over our three medal Liland defeat before
we were you know, kicking it on the last in
that game. Mate, so ship fishing at first half that
the Broncos medals were just we just carrying their way
up and they are. They're a pretty good team in
there when they're when they're on, there's some there's some
real talents in that Broncos team. So yeah, a Frustralian,
(22:32):
frustrating one. And I think with those big cats, the
medal just quickly. Yeah, Laban's really got catching them as well,
So I think definitely should be something we're looking at.
We're looking at putting those bombs up to the medal.
Harris de Veda seems to have picked up a couple
of quite a few trifles this year from from doing
those bombs to the middle. So yeah, maybe maybe we'll
be we'll see a bit more of the next couple
(22:54):
of weeks with the big boys.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, we looked, I mean, look, Rhythm one, they were good.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But the thing is, I think we made them look
better than they are, but than they were.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Sorry on on they think you know, we were giving
them too many easy rides up the field. They're middles.
They were running in the middle too easy. They were
getting through the.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
At the end of the day, I think I would
hear the post contact meds they.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Had actually through the whole game, they made five hundred
and sixteen post contact meters compared to our three hundred
and ninety, and they were just they were just running
through the middle of lo We kept on giving them
too much position at the field, and you know, through
those and through the stupid penalties as well. So it
was it was it was hard. We missed thirty six
tackles in the game. They only missed seventeen, and they
(23:47):
also had thirty six tackle breaks, so which is obviously
gonna miss tackles.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So but yeah, it was just a hard It was
just a hard watch. It's just a hard watch.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And I think that the buy has come has come
out the right time now because I've seen this in
the video that I did as well, was that, you know,
when we had the last buy, I thought, and I've
said this back then as well as that I'm not
actually happy that we're having to buy because we had
just come off our best performance of the season against
the Sharks, where we were so fluid against on defense
(24:22):
and attack. It was just a comp It was a
ten out of ten on both on both counts, and
we were amazing that night. We were we took them,
We were to all them apart. And I would love
to have seen that, just continue to go and then
had them wive a little bit later, you know, have
a few more games trying to play that way. I
think that, I mean, I know, you know, you can't
really say that that was the reason or not, but
(24:43):
I just wish we hadn't had to buy, and then
now we've got to buy it now coming up, it's
probably the right time to have to buy, because I
think the team just needs to sit down and reset.
They have to think things over again now because you know,
the most likely, the most likely I think it's going
to happen as Mick Carl is going to be up
we I mean, I'm really hoping in braining that that's
not the case, but there's very likely that you know,
(25:06):
he won't be there for the.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Rest of the season. So who do you bring in?
Is the number seven?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Because it's not just someone that you can bring in
just temporarily it's someone that's to have nail downe that
spot immediately, the number seven spot, and then you've got
get the reshuffle other areas as well, just because there's
all when you bring in different combinations, different combinations group
with different people, so so you know, you have to
regroup and rethink about how you're going to go about
the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So I've think the buyer has come at the right.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Time in regards to where the worries about right now,
because they've got to figure about who they're going to
bring on because a lot of people calling across his head,
you know, you know, accident.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And stuff, but who are going who are going to
replace them with? Who are going to replace him with?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean we still
have talked about on the the sort of abuse some
of these players players keep these days. What were your
thoughts on some of the some of the words going
towards Cossi. Obviously, you know, I will say he didn't
have his greatest game, but it's been really good when
(26:06):
he had a chance this season. I think there's always
the rest with Cossi that he's got one of those
games in him and unfortunately this this was was one
of them. But there was some pretty pretty nasty, nasty
sort of words go around social media about that. How
did you how did that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Oh? Look, and this is another thing that brought off
brought up in a video.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I was quite quite surprised by the level of abuse
that he was getting on social media.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Look, and and we've always said, you know, when it
comes to our.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Opinions and you know, things like that, I think there's
nothing wrong with sharing your opinion, especially if it's with
a criticism, as long as it's that fair and healthy criticism.
Like I said in the video, for example, that we
know he didn't have a good game. He didn't and
we know it. You know, all the fans know it,
and he'll know it. I said this in the video,
and so look, I mean, imagine how he feels right now.
(26:57):
But then I just hope he hasn't churned on social
read I hope he's been wise about it and just
hasn't gone there, because the level of abuse is just
it's just it's just terrible, mate, It's just.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, there's no word, it's just terrible. It's a terrible end.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Look, I mean, just because he's a rugby league player,
a proficional league player, doesn't mean doesn't have those emotions
where those little things can just play with your mental
health and it can really really discourage you, and it'll
take a lot of it will take a lot for
him to get back on his confidence. Just because he's
a right league player doesn't mean he's a superhero and
(27:34):
he can just throw, you know, one of those sort
of comments aside and not worry about them. I'm pretty
sure they'll play on him, so you know, like you know,
he doesn't need this, so I'm really surprised.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I mean, yeah, but I failure, that failure. It's just yeah,
it's really sad that it gets out that and we
have to be kind of realistic. He's probably going to be,
you know, need to play him this week probably with
it with the sort of injuries we've gotten the outside back.
So it's not doing any good for the a team,
for him, for his mental house. And yeah, I mean
(28:05):
they have they can have a bad game from time
to time, but I don't think he didn't. He didn't
lose us the game, you know, like it's not like
like we were hot hot all around the field apart
from sort of his his discussions, and he wasn't the
only one who didn't play great as well. So if
you're out there, I see that. I said that that
last week or the week before, but just don't be
an egg, you know, don't be an eager if you're
(28:25):
all running your mouth on on on the keyboards, you know,
because yeah, don't do that. And you know, he's got
he's a human band, he's got family. So if you're listening, mate,
I suspect we'll see you in a couple of weeks
and I want to see see you score a head
track and I want to see you back to your
(28:48):
beer because he's honestly, you know, he's past three or
four games this year, and I think he's been really
good in all that. So hopefully we can just we
can get him back, you know, he can just get
himself back to back to there.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah. I mean, like, we get it, right, we get it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We understand why people are the fans are frustrated at
it because he didn't have a great game some really
really basic areas and.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Stuff and including on defense and attacks. But we get it.
Like you know that there's fear, there's some criticism.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
That's that's that's warranted in terms of a healthy criticism,
but you don't have to abuse them about it. And
the little of the wording that's been used on social media,
it's not it's not needed, you know. And you don't
even have to even express your criticism online.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You can give it to yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean, we do a lot of things online, but
we don't go abusing players and.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Stuff like that. So it's like, I don't know why
people do that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's why I was saying before about the Warriors fans,
some of the most passionate, greatest fans in the world,
you know in sports.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
You know that march that they did was awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know, it's just so that there were so many people,
didn't you lost You could kind of count there were
so many.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
But then.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
There was there's always an ugly side as well, where
they just abuse the players when something goes wrong. So yeah,
it's a hard one. It's a hard one. But you know,
like you know, yes, didn't have a great game. He
didn't have a great game, and he'll know it too,
So the best thing to do is just to try
and lift him up because you will need to begin
and if he comes back and plays in two weeks.
How how how will his confidence be Will he will
(30:18):
will this will this game be riding on his mind store?
And will the criticism still be riding on his mind store?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So here's an effect, so it's not needed.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, I think I think the club's in a position
now where like, yeah, like they'll you know, the boys
beginning behind him. You know, that seemed like a really close,
close knap group. So if there is you know, as playing,
and I'm sure there'll be, there'll be the support there
from from the rest of the team. And yeah, people
probably see him and see him in a couple of weeks,
(30:48):
especially with the sort of issues we've gone on the outside.
Backs just we haven't really talked to Bam, but you
know we saw Rockey Berry for what you know, I said,
like the first time in a while, how did your
says his game?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
To be honest, it's a hard one. And the reason
why sense it's a hard one because he just doesn't
really do much knowing. I think he just did his job.
I think he made one line break as well, not
in the match. I think he did his job. But
it's not like he was a standout or anything. So
but you know, like he's just like he's just coming back.
He's just coming back. We know what he can do,
(31:24):
So I might take him a couple of games to
go back into it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But it wasn't like I thought he was. He was,
he started, he still stood out for any reason, but
not Miny did not mind.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm just really hoping that we're here.
We can kind of see you know, we saw happ
but he can be, particularly in that twenty twenty three season,
and but I feel like we he's been hampered by
Andrey since then and just hasn't quite been able to
get back to his best. So hopefully he can. Yeah,
we can see him there in the next the next
couple of weeks. Should we see if we can fight
(31:55):
some highlights from the game. Should we give out our
valumes for the week?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah? Mate, you kick us off.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Mate, man, I'm gonna give my three to Roger a
bunch of shake. Yeah it was. It was a real
sort of straining light for the game. Scored a try,
had topped the run meters seven, the two meters off
eighteen runs, had that beautiful try saber on Krapani. You know,
laid in the game, which was just you know, that's
(32:22):
just bread and butter of a good a good fallback.
You know, you could imagine the likes of sort of
the disc goal, even you Billy Slayer back in the day,
sort of screaming across and doing that. So cool and
just yeah, awesome to see him, you know, back at
fall Back and to know that if if we even
need him to play there, he is obviously still got
those skills. Ye I got Harris to be there from
(32:47):
the two two points obviously set up there. You know,
try sis for that, try for HeLa Sema hit a
nice touch off to the left for Rogers, try struggled
a bit of the fifth staff, but I think, you know,
I'm attacked with the whole, you know, like our attack.
We just weren't able to get out of the sort
of thirty, you know, our own thirty pretty much. And
you know, and metcalf was seving lot of troubles there
(33:08):
as well, So yeah, he was sort of really leaning
leading the team in that second half. I think he
put up that Captain of Califenius try as Mitcalfe was
you know, on the ground clutching at his leg, so
he had too tries said he got pretty busy with
his running meters as well, had one hundred and six
running meters and defensively, he you know, we saw what
(33:29):
he's capable of for him a couple of a couple
of pretty huge hurts as well, So I like what
he saw from him and an a mention to see, yeah,
his role going forward, and I went kept captain she
Harris for by one point top the tech account of
thirty eight tackles had fourteen runs for one hundred and
twenty five meters, so it was one of that. I
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think he was the he ran the most of any Ford,
but just kind of like you know, in the middle,
we were really getting pushed around it. But but he
he stood up and was and was to the broncos
on both sides of the ball. So yeah, he got
my he got my one. How about you, my bro?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I had three for artists as well.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
The same reason scored a good try was running the
ball really well, you know, a hundred one hundred meters
I mean undred one hundred plus meters for the game,
running meters in the whole game.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, I just thought he had a pretty solid game.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's hard for him to do more when you know,
like the balls that coming up till all the time,
you know, he was doing more of his running from
the back, you know, green getting the ball back, So
it would be nice if they spread the ball a
bit more. They did that towards the end of the
second halves that why are you waiting to do this now?
Should have done this way earlier. But yeah, so he
got a three VA gets my two.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I thought he was.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I think I think when he came on, liven things
up a bit, then hes some fresh leaks because obviously
the Warriors forwards were getting really fatigued from a lot
all the you know, the technical they had to do
in the first half.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So when he came on, I thought he did a
great job of lighting things up a bit.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
No, I think he's just he's brilliant. I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I mean, whether he's startling were on the bench and
you know, he live ends it up and I love
the fact that he's saw a young guy and he's
you know, he's in his getting he's learning his trade
really well in first grade. So yeah, right, among for
one and I had one for Lequa awesome try. I
wish he had come on a bit earlier the same
for the same reasons. I just loved these things up
a bit. You know, he gets the more. You know,
he's a lot of energy, and you know he likes
(35:24):
to create things. You know, you know something's going to
happen around it. So yeah, No, those are my three
two ones. And I mean one thing that we didn't
mention just before, sorry, not on the game as a whole,
and just just full of it now because of Lequas
is the fact that we did actually make some breaks.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But did you notice there was never someone there was
no support, run, no support run a bit. It was
never someone you know to.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You know, like I think Wade Egan made a break,
but he was looking around and there was no one there.
And then they throwed you the level fatigue that the
players had gone through because of all the tackling it
that I mean, I'm not saying we're bad because we
can't do it. I think that they were just fatigued,
and so there were opportunities, there were opportunities to do something,
but we were just every time it was just a
sniff of a break, there was no one there to
(36:08):
pass to. So where the Broncos were totally the opposite.
They made little break. There was always someone there to
give it to, so it didn't help Luke usually Metcalf
Metcal is the one that usually you know is a
strong support runner and when he was out and then
there's just out of the Christian.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
But yeah, there's just something another another another announces from
the game that I picked that fatigue.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But like the when when we have no position and
we live got all the position, it just tied you up,
because rye, it's a tiring game. Tied you up quickly.
And we did pretty well to hold them, hold them
off from scoring a bit more. And you know we
held them up a couple of times as well. So yeah,
good good on the boys for that. But yeah, I mean,
I'm pretty sure they won't be too happy, you know,
(36:50):
I'm pretty sure they won't be too happy about their performance.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So as a as a whole, yeah, I think it's today.
But because I can't win them all and hopefully they'll
be able to win a come back from the buy
in a couple of weeks, they'll be had to bounce
back and and bounce back. Have we sort of touched
on the on the fullback sort of situation before, but
there's obviously gonna be a glaring a mission in the halfs. John,
(37:17):
I know, you know, we've we've talked about in the
last few weeks about you know, you know who's necks
off the rents. Obviously Tomarow Martin's been coming off the
bench and playing in their utility role and he seems
to sort of make their fourteen juicy his zone. Have
you got him stopping it into the seven jersey having
been in the system or are you liking what you
see from Panna Boyds.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Tann of Boyd would be just a Australian for me,
not because I don't think Toromady Manton can't do it.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I think he can do it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
He's proven himself before. But I think with Luke metcalved out,
he brings them on its under Boyd and who can
actually manage the game really well. He's showing it Cup,
he's thrown it in the first gray before and he's
got a superiord kicking game to to Mandi Ones, I
think that's why you need him, need that. He's like
it's like a straight swap, you get what I mean.
Because they've got some of the skill sets he's a
(38:06):
running he's a runner as well. He's a runner.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He can manage the game well, and he's got an
awesome kicking game. He can kick well. From converted, he
converts well. So why wouldn't you put him in there?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And to money master In is strong in the areas,
but not as strong as tinn of Boyd in those areas,
So why wouldn't you put tn of boys straight in there?
And I mean, I know you so far as couple
is a different killer freshman. It comes to the competition
and who you're playing against. But you know ten ten
the Cup Boys are team from ten I think, or
nine from nine or ten from ten at the moment,
and yeah maybe there and he didn't play. I know
(38:40):
he didn't play because it was he was on the
extended bench. He's the Broncos. But he's been there for
a majority of the season and a lot of it's
you know, he's played a big part, big hand he
put play your big hand and the success of the
said Cup side.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
So for me, it'll be a straight swap. I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I know that Tomy Mason didn't do that great at
five eight. I wouldn't mind seeing him at five eight.
I think that Harris de Vita, even though people might say, oh,
why would you do that? Why would you take harrist
Vita out? Because you know, if it's not if it's
not broken, why you know if it's not broken, why
do you you know something?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You know?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
But I just think as in terms of what's better,
in terms of what the combinations except, et cetera, for
the team, I think he might be better as a
utility because he can cover howker, he can cover the halves,
and if need be, he could probably plays the forward
because he's we know, we know what he can do
in defense. He's actually said some big guys before and
he's knocked them back. So I actually think he'll be
(39:34):
better used as the utility.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
That's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I know that Tonight Madon hasn't always been the greatest,
say at five eight, but if you look at the
season so far, Harris to beata, you know he's he
hasn't really been the game manager.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
It's always been Luke mcalfe doing it, doing it all.
You know, he's been doing it all.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Harris Vida will be going to pull on the odd
kick here too, But I think it's all, it's all
Luke mcalf So yeah, i'd be short swapping through your
question Town of Boys, straight swap and maybe, I mean
I would like to see Tomato maudn't heavy go, but
I don't think it will happen with this, just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
What about yourself?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, well, I mean you say hasn't done much this year.
He's got thirteen thirding trysis though five tries for himself,
kicking toog and twenty one millions a game, forced a
couple of dropouts obviously pretty pretty good defensively, So uh no,
I mean I definitely be keeping him at Sex. We
(40:31):
saw last year what what happened when when Tomorrow Madam
was given the six jersey, and a lot of that
was probably because Shawn Johnson was was the dominant half,
and you know like when Tomorrow Mardon Hadnes had a
shot at seven, he was the basically looked like the
big topic in the pump and then and then but nah,
(40:52):
I mean yeah, I mean, looking at Tanna Boyd's sets
for a New So World Cup obviously, but yeah, thirteen
games he's kicking God kicking at eighty eighty percent, which
is which is good thing. I think Mick cass been
doing sixteen triassis team line break assist and uh yeah,
(41:15):
it doesn't mind, you know, running about seventy meters a game,
so he does have a bit of that better that
running and running in them as well. So I would
like for I've seen from Tamao and Madden is playing
is the utility and he does offer offer a lot
there as well. So yeah, I think I think Tanner
Boyd and just even seems like and he's been playing
every week as well, you know, like he's been he's
(41:36):
actually been getting regular eighty minute games. To my man
has been playing a lot, you know, sort of training
a lot obviously and to change. And I think Andrews
did say that that the way they turned ma and
Manain has been used is they have been using them
you know, in the half at fall back and then
hooker in various positions.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So yeah, I'd like to be league another go. I thought,
I love saying here. I think he's awesome and I
know that he's not gonna take waiting in spot. I
know that we all we all know that, but I
love to see like a spot made from on the bench.
I don't know how you do that with the utility
and a hooker in just two forwards. But I would
(42:15):
love to see that, And the only way I can
see that happening is if Kate Well goes into center.
You know, Kate Well goes into center and opening the
door for Lecker to go back into starting, you know,
in the second row, and then his bench spot goes
to Healey or someone else. But well, you know, I
probably i'd rather start Jackson Ford. To be honest in
your fire, I think you could have probably been off
(42:36):
the bench. I don't know why, but I just I
just think that not because of what he did the game.
The first said, nothing to do with that, because he's
had a pretty good season. But yeah, there's there's a
it's interesting. There's a lot of there's there's this depth
and there's a lot of options are but it just
it comes down to which which what plays best, what
works best for the team, And I just think Sam
(42:56):
Healey could probably play in Locke as well if Aaron
Clark came off, because he did come off in this game,
you're implied she did come off briefly. So yeah, it's
gonna be interesting. The next team this Tuesday, which is
obviously not to not tomorrow. It's Monday night here is
not tomorrow, it's the next Tuesday. It'll be interesting to
see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, so well, And I just was thinking about it
before when we're playing with Tiger to what we play?
Who will played next weekend and when it comes to
that game, I think it's on the set of that
would have been five weeks since the Warriors lighted a
when so yeah, definitely hopefully we'll be Joe, we're back
at home and playing against a Tiger's team who were having.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
The game. Yeah, I've been wanting to them. By the way,
we we we don't live in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Just for all the listeners out there, we'll be watching,
We're not We're not Auklanders, so.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I'll be going to that game. But yeah'll be interesting
to see the selection.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, but the good thing is about the Warriors, you
know this season is in the squads, you know, you
know it's quite quite beat up in deps. You know,
you know, you was doing really well. Just gives you
some options to use, but you're not not everyone who's
experienced yet to play first grade yet. But yeah, it's interesting,
It will be interesting, But I can't see. I can't
see tele Boyd missing out. I think he'll be He'll
(44:15):
be there. Yeah, yeah, we'll be watching with.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Keen eyes come next Tuesday. Do we run through a
QUT branded.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Chips and fill it in for the day, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So obviously no Worries game this weeking there's five five
L games on to the Sinki Teeth and two sad
enough of the Bulldogs and the Broncos on Thursday night.
No Origin players obviously, but Bill obviously wanting to get
some revenge revenge on the Broncos after they took the town.
(44:50):
And it's cole for about two months ago. Who you
is sort of lying that p Obviously no teams yet,
but yeah, no Origin players. They're both missing about three
players I think.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Bulldogs, I mean I know they're missing players, and I
just the way they played their game against Penri that
was that was an intense game.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
And yeah, they play like that. Ify If they play
that every week, it'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
So even with some missing players that I think, you know,
across the board, they've got some styles, They've got some
really quality players. So because I don't like to say that,
because I don't like the Bulldogs or for the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
But yeah, I'll give it to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I'll go the Broncos just to be different Ratherden Dragons
up next. Brothers obviously missing heads and Yang, and the
Dragon's missing the homes.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
As well because he got named of the Maroon squad retirement.
It's come out of it's come out of representative retirement,
and he's playing for the Maroons.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I looked at it too. I'm after smashing the thought
about that, by the way, But anyway, yeah, all that
I can get, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
You can't really say that after he just lost to.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Them, making they wanted to make it a you know,
a serious it's good, good for the album, for the finances.
Heaving the game three at home.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
So okay, here we go, here we go, all right,
but I'll go I'll Raiders.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yes, Cat cannot beat the Dragons at the moment. Cowboys Storm,
Cowboys gotta win, about to need a win against the Titans. Storm.
Yeah ran away against the Sharks obviously, Storm, but Will
were missing a few origin players. It is all the Cowboys. Yeah,
I mean I probably I'm going to have to Storm. Yeah,
(46:40):
he Roasters. Tigers up next. Roasters have been looking pretty good.
Tiger has been looking pretty bad. I had to just
once again a few players out. But Tiger's are missing
the little wife. And you still saw on Friday night
that they just shove the team that they could be
(47:00):
without the life. So I'm gonna go the Ruses. Yeah,
thanks Ruses and Seagles Reblos to finish it off. Revenues
have got the line throw them for the season, They've
had fifty points scored against them, so yeah, they can't
win their being final apparently in the Seagulls sort of
looks looks pretty good on on Tuesday night Friday night,
(47:23):
but it was against the yestraveling Tigers team. So I'm
gonna go the Rebeos to pull off the wood away
from home. There I'll go.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I'll go mainly because I'm fifty fifty on it.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I'll go mainly easy cool. Well, let's surround our tips
and there's another week of the Couch Warriors. Thank you
all for listening. Obviously, if you don't already give us
a life of subscribe, we're pushing towards one hundred YouTube
followers for the at the moment, So if you are
(47:52):
doing that, being one hundredth YouTube follower. We might be
able to, you know, find some some sweet merch for
you or something. We'll see what we can do. But yeah,
go find us on YouTube, give us, give us a light,
leave us a comment. We love hearing your thoughts. We
want to hear what you want to know. Good any questions,
bringing questions, pluck them through. We're obviously on Spotify, iTunes,
(48:15):
all all that sort of stuff. John, anything you want
to say before we call in for the week.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
No, no, just just recuring what you just said. Thanks
to everyone for listening. We've been doing this for two
seasons now. When we started and and as we mentioned before,
you know, we started just getting getting a groove on.
And now this season we decided to take a bit
more seriously and you know, we start to put our
stuff out there and we're slowly getting time to get
followed us, which is which is really awesome. Got many
(48:42):
on Facebook, you know, many on We decided to talk
about a month ago and that's thing to build up
now is really well, so come come coming out.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
So thanks for everyone for supporting us. And she just
here the love. We love. We love doing this.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
So she had the love, you know, and we'll keep going.
So yeah, thanks everyone, and up the wires and and
you know, abut to the plays.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah big as baby big yeah, all right, play you
line up, have a good one. AP the Wist, the Worst,
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