NRL 2025 | Warriors first half nightmare

The boys discuss the match between the Warriors and premiership favourites the Storm, where the home side absolutely dominated the NZ side.

Do the Warriors coaches need to go back to the drawing board? What immediate changes need to be made? All this and much more on Couch Coaches.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Good everyone, and welcome to another episode of The Couch Coaches.
I know what you're all thinking, No, that's not John
introducing it. So John's flipped the we're flipping the switch
and he's given me the reins again. John's not feeling
a handy he reckon. So we'll see how we how
we how we can go a bit of sickness going
around the house. But I don't know whether it's related

(00:39):
to that Warriors performance. I think I'm just gonna put
it on that John, John, Yeah, I mean, how are
you feeling, bro Apart from the sickness? What what your what?
Your sort of have you? Have you come down from
the disappointment of use today?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Mate? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Now having an evening too great today, mainly because my
family has been has been a bit ill and to
be a bit of a bit of spearing up going on.
So I haven't, I haven't, but there's there's moments where
I feelished a little bit norse. I thought, you know what, Richard,
it's on you tonight. It's on you tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We've been on you. But no, I mean that would
be a good excuse, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
That would be a great excuse to say that I'm
feeling like this because of what happened, You say, because
it was like and being a true, honest Warriors fan,
it was quite appalling, especially that first half.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was quite appalling. It was quite embarrassing, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
But you know, there are some.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Positives to take away and we'll talk. I'm sure we'll
talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
But yeah, now, yeah, I'm so calmed down after everything
because I was pretty pretty you know, living at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So yeah, with yourself, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Just saying, bro, yeah, I was. It was almost comedy
in that first half, just sitting there and watching it,
and my wife was like, should we keep watching this
or not? But you know, I wanted to put myself through.
It got to halftime and sil Hughes was off, so
I thought, hey, you know what, I was in charge
of the bibbing for the waking with my syndicate. So
we managed to the Warriors minus plus two two and

(02:03):
a half at about twelve dollars, so we we had
a nice little coredict on the back of that second
half performance, so I think that sort of eaves the
blow of the first half. It was great to see
them sort of come out and not just absolutely capitulate
like we've seen in the past, you know, the amount
of times just send the warriors. You know, we we
touched on that seventy seventy ten game a few years

(02:24):
ago and it kind of felt like it was going
that way. But they did a lot, a lot better
on the second half, especially with a few few guys out,
So we'll take what we can from that. But yeah,
I mean at first half, you know, I mean, where
do we start? What? What? What went wrong for you
the way you saw it, John, I.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, trying to trying to think about it, you
know at the time, you know, and think having a
bit of a deeper thing today.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
When I could, it was hard. It's hard to now
now now nail everything down.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Like honestly, it was just trying to think because they
like I mentioned this in the video that we put
up yesterday on our social channels, is that they weren't
actually doing that bad for the first twenty minutes. They're
actually going, you know, tip for tat with them, and
they were getting they were regally getting down their end.
But again, the frustrating part for me was that you know,
there was there was no creativity. It felt like there
was no plan on the last tackle, like there was

(03:18):
no plan, whether it was to up and under or
you know, run it. It felt like they just they
were just having you know, playing by chance, you know,
just just having a chance, having to go with it,
and it just it felt like it looked like it
just looks like it's so unorganized and the last last
tackles like they don't know what to do, and it
brings it For me, that brought up questions about whether
our house combination are the real deal, because it's our

(03:41):
house combination that make those calls and you know and
set things up, and yeah, I don't know if it's
justly working because it's not working with the kicking game,
and it's not working with what they're doing at the
end as well, you know, when if they're not kicking.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So that was the biggest thing for me.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Upon I know, there's a lot of things to ponder
about this game, but that was a big thing for
me is because we did manage to make it down
their end a few times and we just couldn't convert
those plays into points.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
So for me, that's that's what's a big thing. That's
a that's a it's a it's a sign of.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Worry for me that they can't convert you know, those
those times up up there in the opposition and convert
them into points. So yeah, or another set, you know,
kicking to the goal, another set, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think I think I missed you
about twenty twenty five minutes into the game, and it's
you know, I think we were down eighteen l at
the time, but I said, we're not even playing that badly,
but we're just you know, our kicking game was just nothing.
And then every time they got the ball, they were
just yeah, just I mean, they're a good cham and
you know, like it was disappointing for the Warriors, but
like I mean, heads off to the Storm. They were

(04:43):
just far too good than that first half. Yeah, I
mean Hughes, Hughes had injured himself pretty early in the
in the game, but he meant it's just sort of
play through. He kicked at forty twenty, and that forty
twenty was quite a you know, that was a bit
of a turning point in itself. You know, I think
it was only six now at that point, and they
scored straight that set. They were just scoring some easy
tries at the middle. Our middle defense was just bad.

(05:05):
I think Mitch Bane talked about the indies, you know,
the young guys came on, you know, the likes of
Leka Hala, Sema, Dimitric v Mulga, they came on the
second half and just just yeah, like made a little
bit more the defense, a bit more solid in the middle.
But the yeah, I mean the damage was done there.
What did you did? You sort of bitter talk about

(05:26):
you know, Fisher Harris going down early. Do you think
that that injury sort of slow slowly he making the
excuse or nah.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean, I mean, like we all know the call
of the player he is, but I don't think whether
he was on the field or not, I don't think
he would have made a big difference. So I think
that when if you look at the storm Bus tries
and they score and it was just for clinical football,
it was it wasn't you know, it wasn't actually you know, rezldezzl.
It was just get the ball shifted to the to

(05:56):
the wing, you know, straighten up, drawing your man in,
passed the ball and they had gaps and also they
were just uploading the ball too much and they were
getting easy meters upfield from offloading the ball. There were
so many offloads that wasn't funny. And I thought the
Warriors would have learnedly listened, you know from previous games
were the teams are just offloading them and then you
know they run, they run them ragged and then it

(06:18):
takes a lot out of you. And then you can
see in the Warriors defense even when you know, when
we would when the when we would tackle them on
their last tackle, they would kick the ball down.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
We would, But by the time the second field of play,
you know, was.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Up the field, we still had players still on the
strong side, you know, coming back because they were just
just out of gas. And that's what happens when you know,
when that sort stuff happened. So then they, like you said,
Mitch Bunny said, the young guys told us, you know
a thing about tackling and when we're going to be
better at that, because not only were they missing tackles,
they weren't completing them because the opposition we were able

(06:52):
to upfload the ball. So that was a real frustrating
part for me as well. The fact that they were
just able to do the simple things and do them well.
And that's and you know you mentioned Jerome Hughes for example.
It just shows you how how much you need a
good half in your team, not only a good half
that knows how to kick, knows how to direct the play.

(07:13):
You know, he knows how to attack the ball. You know,
they can do all that, whereas and I think we
we are lacking in the area, to be honest. So
he comes off second half, big difference, and I think
that there shows I think there's a big drums factor,
that Jerome Hughes factor, because previous games for the Storm
they've lost some, they've lost some games, lost of the
Dragons as well. He wasn't there, but it just shows

(07:34):
you you inject someone like him in there, a decent half,
things changed for you.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So yeah, that's the thing. What we're missing is a
decent half. And I'm being honest with you. I'm I'm
I'm all.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'm going to back Metcalf to come well, but my
question is, you know, is he the right number? Is
he the right person for the seven Josy, That's what
I'm trying to say, or is he the right person
to be leading the players? Because I think that maybe
it's just it's just a.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know. I don't know if I don't know, if.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's just it's just a bit of an overload, you know,
he's just it's just an overload on him at the moment.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't talk to
Luke metcalf, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
But it just seems that way, just things that he's
got so much on his mind that he can't know
doing what he wants to do on the field because
he's got too much going on his mind and wants
to attack as well, because there are many times on
the fourth tack, etcetera. He actually ran the ball, which
is I don't have a problem with them running the ball,
but then the only other option to kick the ball
in the last tack was Harris to beat it, and
he doesn't. Only he doesn't put up in numbers really

(08:30):
nothing more.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So yeah, I think we've shown that there's a bit more,
a bit more, you know, kicking house where he saw
Aaron Clark had a nice little little kick through on
you know, nearly set out val Malga, so that would
have been would have been nice to see. So he's
sort of really fulfilling that the avoid left by the
lights still on Walker and Toler Harris there, so there

(08:53):
was Yeah, I mean, there wasn't too many shining lights.
But I think Iaron Clark and particularly on it one
hundred of the game, I'll give him a shout outcause
I thought he was one of the best on the
on the field for the Warriors. Again, you know, we
both shouted him out a few weeks in a row now,
So yeah, just it's nice to even though it wasn't
it wasn't great, it was good to see there was
still a few positives there. Rockerberry had a bit of

(09:16):
a sort of a mixed sort of comeback, you know,
like he he it was great to see him. I mean,
you talk a lot about the kick chase, and I
feel like he's one who actually really commits to the
kick chase. And there was a few two or three
times I remember seeing that he was sort of really
leading the charge there and and Peppenhausen early and didn't

(09:37):
let him sort of wind up. But obviously the game
he's probably gonna miss I think this week and maybe
even next week with suspension. So yeah, I mean, what
what we would you like what you saw from roccer
Berry or do you think when once everyone's foot, you're
questioning his spot.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
On naimixed thoughts.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I mean, you know, it's his first game back, you know,
I know he's had a couple of reserve grade games
as well, but you know, I still think he's a
champion player. And yeah, yes he didn't didn't have the
greatest game, but look who did and the Warriors team
who did. I mean you can point out guys like
Aaron Clark, and so Aaron Clark was was amazing.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I thought he was.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
He was, he was brilliant, but you know he was,
you know, one of the solo lights you know out
there there was hardly anyone that really did, you know,
really well. I thought the young guys that came on
in the second half were brilliant as well. And it's
got me thinking, you know, does a change need to
be made? And I think, I mean, we can talk
about this a little bit later on, but I just
think that you know, Web needs to who needs to

(10:40):
do something with and he needs to look inside himself
to be honest, because he's he's reluctant to change. He's
reluctant to make changes. He's sticking with a process that's
not working. So I don't know how long you can
keep doing that. You know, it's not just about the
tactics in the field, it's the it's the personnel. It's
on the field as well.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean, for example, yeah, ton of Boyd with Chances
hi A. You know, he was out for the game.
I'm pretty sure he was his his sport. He wasn't
he was the eighteenth man? Was he was he activated
during the game? Was it activated during the game?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Can only be activated if it's felt play.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, but I thought I thought, yeah, I get there.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I just thought I thought I saw someone say or
someone mentioned on the game he's been activated.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
So I was wondering. I mean, I don't know, maybe I.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Heard it wrong, but yeah, because I want to say,
why isn't he why is he not on the field?
You know, and a losing cause, you know, But maybe
maybe I'm the one that heard it wrong. So because
I heard someone said it.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
In if you if you did that, you could put
you know, you could put Harristavida out the bit because something,
you know, like he's obviously a fall back in this
time and all that. He's probably the most versatile of
of of of those three halves. But yeah, I mean
it's a it would have been nice if it was
foul play because would have been great to sort of yeah,
sure up that bet clan a little bit. It was.

(11:57):
It was one of those games. I was just trying
to figure out who was playing weird by the you know,
like once chance was off, I was obviously tame went
to the back and bit Rocky Berrier was down the
wing was I think cape Ball was playing the centers.
So yeah, yeah, I mean culos to the boys for
sort of, you know, managing to bring it all together
in the second half. But there was a few moments,
especially that that storm trying the second half, where you know,

(12:18):
we just saw what could happen. We're just got the
boy to coach, and he just you know, he was
just out you know, we're outnumbered and outplayed, and he
just book his way through to a pocky hard even
tried to tackle him. Also, you are you happy to
see to a picky get a bit of a fall back,
do you?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I thought that it was a bit of a mixed bag, like,
but I think on the whole head's a lot of
energy there, he does. I did want to I mean
we'll probably talk about sections going forward, but just I
just clicked on it was one of your thoughts on
whether you think he might be at the back this
week or whether there's more value and keep him on
the wing.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Nah Back, fall back, because that's that's a spot. He's
only on the wing because for because of injury. We
all know that, you know, I mean, I know they
could bring costing him as well, but we know the
hell valuable he is. That's why he's still there. But
his spot is fall back. That's where he's that's where
he's best at, and I think that's where he'll stay.
I'm assuming that, you know, because now they're going to
replace Rocco in the center and they're gonna they're gotta

(13:16):
replace to a pickie. Now I'm assuming that's where that's
what's gonna happen. He's going to go to fallback. But
so I'm assuming Costi will come in. But no, I was,
I mean, I think everyone just had a mixed, mixed game,
you know, mixed bag of game. You know, they were
he usually pretty good to a pickie and he's allowed
to have, you know, not the greatest game sometimes. But
I don't think it was that bad. I just didn't think.

(13:36):
I just think the whole team didn't really jell together.
It was just, you know, it was just it wasn't
it was It's not. I'm really lost for words to
be honest about that performance because it just seems so
it was just from the first half. I couldn't believe it.
How easily the storm we're just going up the field
and scoring with these you know, thirty six and at
halftime could have been much more worse. You know, when
Metcalf did that awesome try say around the corner there,

(13:59):
it could have been a lot more worse, you know, yeah, yeah,
just just how to describe it. You know, I mentioned
in the videos today that when you're a Warriors fan,
for frustration always follows you. It's always gonna happen when
you're a Warriors fan. You know, I'm sure you understand
what I'm saying, and that's that's just another another one,
you know, just especially against the Storm, because it's like

(14:22):
it's like we go there and we know we we know,
we we go on there with belief, but we just
come out on the bad end of some really realism,
big hidings. I know, last year we did pretty good.
You know, we're closed and stuff, but it's still weren't
winning the games. And yeah, so it's hard.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's hard. It's a hard one to talk about. You know.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
It's hard because there's just so many areas you can
so pinpoints say this, this, this and this and this
and this.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
But yeah, it's a hard one.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
We might as well just try and bring some get
some positives down of the game. We'll go into the
to the l ems just quickly, because I want to
just yeah, I've sort of mentioned a few names here
and there. You've mentioned there was a bit of a
mix bag for most guys, but it we will go out.
We'll hand out our points for the week and see
whether way that he can can extend his lead or
whether someone else can and can pop up there. So

(15:08):
I'm happy to start us off. So those who don't
who haven't listened to us before, we have our walms.
So it's our version of the Jeli EAMs, but just
for the Warriors games and often when defeats like this happened. John,
You're you're not that keen to even give the awards
out because you know that no one deserves them. But
we'll give it out today regardless, and my three points

(15:30):
goes to I've shut it him out before, but Iaron Clark,
So yeah, I thought he was. He was based on
Park one hundred in RL games. A shame the boys
couldn't put on more performance for him, But from what
I saw, I thought he was. He had the most
effort out of any of the players there. Had that
little cat nearly set up by Malga for that try.
Five tackle breaks, thirty one tackles, fourteen runs for one

(15:52):
hundred and twenty nine meters, So just a really good
all round performance. And he yeah, I mean that thirteen
jersey as well, and truly his has now two to
Likahala Sema. I thought he had another another great game,
another try. Good to see. I don't know about, you know,
the celebration when you're down thirty thirty six six or

(16:12):
whatever the scores at the time, but I think he's
just he was just happy to be there. Sort of
reminded me of you know, there's some of these other
second rollers in the games that get the you know,
they sort of dive up above above everyone. So it's
awesome to see that he's got that that that element
to his game. So ye had two points for him
for his try fifty four meters, six runs, fourteen tackles.

(16:33):
Probably could have been borught on earlier. I thought, you know,
I don't think he didn't come on till early in
the second half. And you know why he wouldn't try
something different when you're down sort of eighteen twenty four
to thirty NL. Not quite sure, but he as much.
Bunnett sort of mentioned the young guys they taught them
how to tackle, and he was one of them. And

(16:54):
I gave one to Ali Altawa. I thought he had
another another pretty good game, considering looked the most hungry
of the backs in plenty of meters defensively pretty Sander
as well. So yeah, it's my three two one who
you got for us?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
John very very similar to mine.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Honestly, my three points goes to Aeron Clark, and I
mean you just gave him the shout out in all
the stats et cetera and things. So I just thought
he was brilliant on the day and the losing cause
he always still.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Brought the energy.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
He brought the energy, you know, and he ran at
pace and though he took the head upset pace as well,
his tackling was awesome. So I just thought he in
an immense game, and I just hope he can continue
continue that from the season. That's what we need, you know,
good to I mean, I don't know if I see
him as a playmaker thirteen, but he's doing he's doing
good enough of what he's doing right now. But yeah,

(17:43):
so Eron Clark three points for me. I had lick
ahell a Sema for two points as well. I just
think he's just every game he's growing and growing and
maturing and maturing. And I just think, honestly, he's time
for him to earn it, to be injected into the
starting line. That that's my and we can talk about
there were later, but that's I think that's how awesome
he is going. I don't think like you said, so,

(18:05):
like you said, maybe we're on a bit too late.
I think they need to change that. This is what
I meant before when I was saying about where some
needs to change something here, not just about personnel, but
also tactics.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, because it's not working.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I don't think we may have won three games personally
but private previously. Sorry, but yeah, I don't I don't
think that the tactics is still working and by one
point demetric I thought he you know, another one that
came on and did well and just hit the ball
up and again Mitch Bande said himself, they did an
awesome job, you know, especially defensively, and the shows you

(18:38):
know the fact that you know, the storm we're only
able to score one.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Try in the second half when we scored three.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
So yeah, I think that he deserves one point yea,
because I couldn't really think of anyone else, to be honest,
in the team that deserved any points.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
So that those are my points. But Aaron and Aaron
Clark and had I seen him.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
At definitely my two standouts for the game, like easily
easy standouts for the game.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Nice to see some of the fresh blood. You know,
obviously you're in class, been around for a while, but
he's obviously a fresh warrior as well. So it's good
to see the sort of next generation of these Warriors
coming through and really making their mark and asking some
questions because there's some guys in there here and they're
starting line up that might be a little bit concerned
about their positions. But we'll see what happens. I mean,

(19:28):
do we need to sort of delve more anymore into
that that game. It was obviously disappointing first half a
better performance than the second half. Just issues all around
the park. You got, I think the defense in the
middle I was really worried about. And I mean I
think I did mention before, but Jasvi Harris and I
think him him sort of leaving so early messed with

(19:50):
the rotations. You know, when you've got the likes of
King and Looked Loori, Sean Laury, Yeah, you've got those
guys scoring easy tries in the middle, haven't even been tackled.
So I just think, yeah that for sh Haar's going
out just through them all waft, no, no, no excuses
at all. So hopefully this week they'll be defending and

(20:12):
ensuring that because with the likes of this Broncos team
are playing this week, got you know paying haass and
uh you know Petty Carrigan guys, these big boys love love,
love and offload. So I still have nightmares about that.
You know that preliminary final and twenty twenty three we're
pat against the Broncos and and they just offload, you know,

(20:33):
they's offloaded us. So hopefully we've learned from then. But
I suppose the questions is changes for this week, you know,
like there's obviously going to be three you'd imagine three
different So I don't think for she has be playing,
Charms won't be playing, and obviously Rocker Beer's out for
for a week or two to starting at the back.

(20:56):
So you want to see see your boy tain their their.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I want to a Picky to be there. I think
he will be. I think he's.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
I think he's he's. I mean that's a's it's an
automatic selection, you know what I mean. If Chance is
out at full back, they put they put him in there.
I think it's an automatic section. I don't think who
else who else would you put there? You know, to
play fullback? You gave Roger, but Roger's not playing and
he's injured at the moment, So namely name me someone
that would they would there would be ahead of a
Picky in full back.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't know about a head, but if they want
to keep to a Picky on the wing, keep him
growing there because he's still going to be there for
another three or four weeks. I wouldn't mind seeing Tamaro
Marne and get shot. He had to go on one
of the going on the trial games, and he looked

(21:42):
electric when he was when he was back there. I
think it was a next storm game and a big
Gogod opportunity to get him, get him back on the
first grade and see see what he can do. I'm
sure you know we've talked about how he's sort of
you know, he's informed and obviously playing in the halves. Yeah,
that would be my Yeah, I think that would be
the only other option at the back that makes makes sense.

(22:03):
I don't think cost he's played played there at all,
and I wouldn't want to see cost It was good,
you know, Costs, he was greating its tigers. But I'm
more than happy to see him back on the wing.
But yeah, I think I think between two, biggie, but
I would really like to see to Mary Marlin get
a run at full back.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
How do you feel? How do you think tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Romani is feeling it right now because you know he
hasn't had a chance in first grade, you know, for
the season. He's been in New South WEL's Cup and
we know how awesome he is, and he's doing really well,
like you said, the New South WEL's Cup. But then
you've got a town of boyd who gets gets picked
ahead of him, you know, for the you know, for
the storm to be the eighteenth man. So how do
you think he's feeling right now? He's feeling like, okay,

(22:44):
I'm not you know, there are people ahead of me.
I'm not going to get in that first grade game.
Because he's come out saying that now I'm here to
the end of the year, my contract runs out of
the air, not going anywhere. Because it was all of
those rumors with the Lee Leopards, you know, trying to
bring him over the Super League, et cetera. But how
do you think he's feeling right now, Because you know,
it's when you're there, all of a sudden, you're thinking that, Okay,
I'm the next guy, you know off therect you know,
to be up there.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
But then you've got a ton of boy that just
takes over him.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
So I mean, yeah, I mean he's probably he's City's daying.
So he's shown that he's committed to the club. Hopefully
the club can sort of give him, give them that
sort of you know, repay that faith. I suppose. Yeah,
Like I don't think that he would think that it's
his last game. I mean he knows what the NRL

(23:28):
is like, he knows he's a good play he's playing
some good footing, and that he offers a lot with
that be in the haarse, with that bit of fullback.
Even off the bench, you know, he could he could
add a heap as a utility player as well. So yeah,
I mean you'd be a little bit that Boyd's sort
of come into the eighteenth men. But yeah, I mean,
I mean when he was signed, you know, like he

(23:51):
knew that, you know, it always going to be a
bit of a competition. And although to Samaron Maddin's he's
head as charts chances in the heart last year, it
was when he was half back, was when he was
just unstoppable, you know. And then when when Shawn Johnson
came back and he went just cut, he just couldn't
quite he couldn't quite sort of have that same magic.

(24:11):
So maybe if he's the other halfs completely check him
at the back, he can just do his magic. He's got,
you know, obviously kicking game. He's got really good visions
fast and slip breeze. So yeah, I mean, the more
I think about it, the more I really want to
see him play this week.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, he's too he's too good to leave out, you
know what I mean, He's too good of a player
to leave out. I mean, I mean, I can't speak
very other club, but obviously if there were, if he
was on some other side, I'm sure he would be
in the seventeen mix at least eighteenth man.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
But for us, he's down.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
He's way down the picking order going on what happened
on Sunday, and he's just too.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Good to leave out.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
And this is why I keep thinking, this is why
I'm saying, you know, Withton needs to go back to
the drawing board here because he's got a halves peer
who he saying that these are this is our house pair,
where we're backing them and stuff. But then whether the
halves pair are doing great or not, even if you
said they're doing that, they're not doing that bad.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
But that's not that's not good in the NRL. If
you say, oh, they're not doing that bad, that's not
good enough. In the NRL.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You your part, your halves peering have to be outstanding.
That's the only way you can actually go do well
in the NFL. You can't just have a saying, oh,
they're doing all right, that's that's not good enough, you
know what I mean. The Metcalves is showing us some
glimpses of what he's got just talent, But I haven't
really seen anything from Harris Tavida, to be honest, I
haven't seen that much. He's put a few kicks up,

(25:36):
you know where we've contested the ball, which is a
rare thing for the Warriors, and he had caught the
ball and he could you know, he put one up
and caught one U himself in school to try. But
other than that, it's about game management and stuff, you know,
with the halves and stuff and running the ball. Don't
really see much from him. And again it's not a
diget Harris toa Vida's just saying that. I just think
we have been We've got players that probably be better

(25:58):
suited for those roles.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean, what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, not really on the same page there. I've probably
liked him, been more impressed with him than metcalf. I
think Mick caalfs got a lot of praise, but I
feel like Harris Deaveda has been solid. He's probably there's
probably been more happening on the left edge than in
the right edge so far, I get the Metcalf's just
still figuring out the seven Josy, but I'm still yeah,

(26:24):
I think they both clearly sexers, aren't they Like no,
either of them sort of put their hand up to
say they're at their half back, so and what are
we five five games and now? So it's still I mean,
still early in the season, but you really want to
when you've got the likes of you know, Tomorrow Martin
and Tying of Boyd there who we know her, both

(26:45):
more than capable of playing playing half back. It'll be
interesting to see if another one of them does, if
one of them does get a chance this weekend, and
there's a few situations where that could happen with you know,
whether they Yeah, I mean you could even put you know,
could put Harris to Vida. As I mentioned before, he's
played a bit of fall back as well, so you know,
you could put him at the back and then and
then bring bring bring boarder at seven and move Metcuff

(27:09):
back to sex I mean, they are the options for
the utility.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
But I wouldn't be I wouldn't be putting me personally.
I would be putting full mate.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
He played the best game he's played for the Warriors
was the homecoming the game against the Tigers back in
twenty twenty three, when the Warriors returned to the Fortress
Mounts Mountains Part Stadium. He had an absolute blinder at
the back.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
One time ago.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I always remember that. Yeah, so that's obviously the options
options at the back there. So you you're going to
a pickie, Yeah, just take her to a bookie after
the check I'll go to Marray Marden with Harris de
Vida as a back up there. I suppose that the
problem with what you're saying with putting to a pickie

(27:52):
at the back just so high poetically they do that. Yeah,
we're so so short and outside back.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah that's the point.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Who are you put it in your centers?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
And yeah, I mean I guess when I spoke when
you asked me the question, because my mind is always
thinking to a pickie should be the full back. But
when you when you when you put it that way,
when we're really shorten outside backs, you know, and we've
known is Roger out Dallen now as well, and now
we're Rocco. Yeah, you know, Pump is probably the one
more suited to go into the centers.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So yeah, I mean it's a good point you make.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
You know, like if you if you had to choose that,
you wouldn't put tomorrow Martin on the wing? Would you
put you know, you wouldn't do that. So yeah, that's
a good point. I admit it's a good point. But
if that was the case, if they're if they're running
low on on on, you know, on the talent there,
I think we you know, tomorrow Nights will be serious
a better suited at fullback than wing. But I would

(28:46):
still at the moment put to a picky there.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Other option is Morgan Harbor. Obviously he's been playing yourself
as capless time. And then there's obviously the option of
putting cakewell, or I'm gonna say that I was gonna
say I'd rather not say that, you know, like I
I'd rather I'd rather be able to use you know

(29:10):
that it's handed to head them there in a game
when when we get injuries. But I wouldn't. I don't
want to say those guys starting in the centers. So yeah,
I suppose you could maybe maybe give hall Asima a
go and see what happens. It could be fun.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, you know, I mean why not.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think he's been as a forward obviously because he
will get more more his hands on the bolln war
going through the middle and stuff, and that's when we
want him because he's actually doing a great job, you
know with his head ups et cetera.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I mean he showed, he showed what he can
do on that edge as well. So which is which
is what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
He Look, I'm a big fan of Kirk Kate Well,
as you know. I've always been a big fan of
Kirk Kate Well. But I just think on current form,
Kalesima deserves to be there and he's taking his spot.
That's that's that's what I would do, honestly, and i'd
have Kate Well on the bench. I would I still
have Keped on the bench. But I just think Alsima

(30:02):
deserves to be there. And people can say, oh no, no, no,
I've heard people say no. This is an argument that
people have been saying on social media, you know, but
people say no, he brings the energy from the bench,
but he brings the energy in the like for fiftieth minute.
That's when you know he brings the energy too late.
And that's where I think that's where I think, you know,
because we could talk about who should play where.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
All day long.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
You and I can do that all day long. The
fans can do it all day long. But it's also
about how you manage the players on the times when
they go on, when they go on, et cetera. And
I think, honestly, Andrew Roups has got it wrong. Him
and his coaching staff have got all wrong. And you know,
it's easy to say that, you know, if when you're
a couch coach, totally easy to say that. But I
think that, you know, just just watching the games, haven't

(30:44):
watched so many games before and stuff. There's a lot
of things that are not going, that are not working,
that are not clicking together, but he's still element sticking
with them, you know, And people can say, you know,
you can always say, oh, we're only six rounds in,
but you can't usually always use it as an excuse.
But because that's the whole point of trials, you know,
that's the whole point of trials, games and stuff to
get ready for the season and get your you know,

(31:06):
your best thirteen that's available.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Ready for those games.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So I honestly think that, you know, they need to
go back to the drawing board, and it's sort of
some stuff not just with tactics but also about position,
you know, and when they bring on players. There's a
lot of a lot of things they need to do
from the coaching box that needs to change in terms
of the tactics.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's what That's what I believe.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
M no too long to fix it, so hopefully that
they'll be able to, yeah, look on a few things there. Yeah, yeah,
I think I think that I'm interested to see what happened,
what's going to happen in the middle of there, you know,
with Forsher Harris out, I would just say, like while
we're talking for the changes, Yeah, I've obviously Mary Mine

(31:50):
and the dead, I've got Pompy moving back and sat
just with Tower, and I've got yeah to Picky and
Cossy will come back on the on the lins there obviously,
I imagine the half or stayed the same. But as
I said before, mind's he done a boy to go
and then maybe meet half back to six and Harristavida
either maybe on off the bench interchange or eighteenth man.

(32:13):
But yeah, in the middle of James mister Harris out
and could be you know, Pixer the Negolie ones. And
I don't think it's been official how long he's out for,
but there's implies there could be a few weeks and
it's probably a position where yeah, yeah, well that's yeah,
it could be you know that. I think I've seen
up to sort of eight eight weeks protected, which is

(32:35):
not not great. And I think we did see sort
of that. He's obviously, you know, co Kepta and but
he's a silent leader, but he does a lot of
work in the middle, like you know, like a lot
of the dirty work. He's obviously very different player to
what Vanilla Blake was. I'm just yeah, I'm not sure

(32:56):
who they're going to bring in here, Like I did
see a suggesting into a core a bit and you know,
and to the and and to the free that frees
up the spot for Hala Sema probably or Marga the
second rower. Obviously, Jackson Ford has been coming in in
sort a big part of the rotation. Like I really
like what he's bringing off the bench. I mean you

(33:18):
talk before about helles Sema and the energy off the
bench that is different, so I mean I wouldn't mind
seeing that. And then you've obviously got bunty bunty half
as well, who's had a couple of games, the most
clear kind of as a bet roller. I suppose you know,
I'm a front rower, sorry, you know, so he'd be
the in my eyes, the most clear person to start.

(33:39):
But I don't know who whoo who of those guys
or have you got any other wild wild World cards
to sort of came and start in the middle there.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Not starting, But I would like to see Helly get
to go as well, like you know, you and I
we can, we can, we can for all these names
all day long.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
But you know, in reality, you know, they've been really
reluctant to change things. So they've only been they've only
been changing players when it's forced, you know, I mean
when it's far so. But I like the idea of
new career, maybe your cord is thing, you know, starting
it prop and then in the front row and then
bringing Hellesema to take his spot. I actually don't think
that's a bad idea at all. I don't think it's

(34:17):
a bad idea at all. But I mean, knowing weybe
in terms of how he's been going, he probably I
don't know. For some reason, I have a feeling he
would put Jackson Ford into the front row starting.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I don't know why, but I just have a feeling
he'll do that.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
So yeah, but I don't think it's I don't think
it's the right move, but I think for some reason,
I have a feeling he'll do that.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. And it's kind of yeah,
sort of because Bennett's obviously, you know, come from being
a second row I sort of moved into a front
row spot. And I still, you know, like, I mean,
he's a great player, but he's not as good as
he was last year. You know, I think last year
was when he was playing the second row, was when

(34:55):
he was really at his best. Where were you know,
singing his praises? He got all there aids last year
could get. So, yeah, they have sort of like two
converted second rowers both playing in the front row. I
worry that we might you know, miss miss a bit
of a bit of size and a bit of their
muscle up the front. That's that the likes of Fisher

(35:17):
Harris spring but I really wished it, Like he hasn't
been bad, but I wish he'd done more for me
to be like confidently, but like I want to see
him start, but I just haven't quite you know, like
in the trials he looked he looked great, and he
looks fat, but he hisn't kind of thing. So yeah,
I think it was sort of someone was throwing it

(35:37):
out there as a as a as a wild card.
But more I think about this new quarry one, I
don't I don't mind that one at all.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I don't mind. I don't just.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Freeze up one of those spots for for hell, because
the people are calling for the whole Seema to get
in there.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know, I'm one of them.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I'm on that bandwagon, on that definitely on that bag.
When to see hello Sema in the starting sport and
not being jigged into the game so late into the game,
so late into the piece, I think that he deserves
a spot, and you know, and this could be an
opportunity to do that and see see how he goes, right,
It could be a good opportunity to see that. Why
not take that opportunity see how we goes starting the game.

(36:16):
To be honest, to be honest with you, bro, I
would really, I would really just want to see a
change in the in the in the halves. I don't
know how that would look. I just want something changed.
I don't think that we are gonna do any well,
any any good on this with his hals period. Not
not not saying that they're both bad, but I just
think that maybe at a position is what they're playing

(36:38):
at a position, and maybe someone will have more wiser
in terms of game management. Maybe time to boid or
learn to my demandin at seven, you know, I mean
someone someone's just got more game management wisdom there. I
think they would be better for the for the game,
for the team.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So well, I think we've solved the world's issues there, John,
I think Andrew web so we'll be happy when he
gets sent the audio of this this recording and all
his selection changes will be sorted. We've obviously got a
game this weekend against the Theis. Yeah. The Ponies are

(37:15):
playing away from Suncourt for months in their lives, it's yeah,
and they're coming off for pretty disappointing loss as well
to the Sydney Roosters. I don't know if his stance
for that game, but that was that was absolute Barnswarmer,
the great round on the whole. Actually, so yeah, I mean,
we're sort of talked about a few of the positional
changes giving us a giving us a shot against this

(37:38):
pretty inconsistent Broncos team.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
So I think, I mean, okay, let me say say
it this way. If we make some specific changes like
we're talking about, like in the halves, et cetera. If
we'll make some specific changes, I think we'll be fine.
And and the reason why I say there is the
stemming from magic around last year when we were we
were out with so many players and we still beat
the Panthers who ended up winning the competition. There were still,

(38:04):
you know, a hot Panthers team at the time, and
we were able to beat them with our young guns
there and there and stuff. And think Tomid and Martin
was the half back, you know, etcetera. So I just
think that if we get the right people in the
right positions, we'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
But that comes down to, you.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Know, whether they get selected or not. So that's why
we've been that's why we've been going on and on
about it right now. But you know, we can go
on about who we pick, but in the end of
the day, will we be doing it? So I think
that's why I keep going on saying that he needs
to go back to the drawing board and reconsider how
he's doing things in terms of selectures.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
But answering your question, I do think we can do it.
The Broncos haven't looked the greatest. Reece Walsh has.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Been out of sorts. He's been out of sorts and
that's pretty unusual for him because he's the one that
usually lights up the game. But I read I read
a comment from someone over in Australia where I think
it was I don't know if it was Gordon tell
Us or someone else, but they they said that he's
just trying too hard to do the right, do things
right instead of just living in places natural game. He's

(39:01):
trying to do the basics right and that's it's throwing
him back a bit. So yeah, so hopefully that can continue.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
For our sakes.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
But I still think we can do it. Yeah, I
mean the Broncos should be pretty spooked playing it. You know,
go me a stadium, because I don't really get out
of Suncorp but much at all. I mean, you know,
getting on a plane to come to New Zealand, that's
probably got them giving them getting given them the Gebus
you know, they're pretty scared, you know, what the heck's
going on?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, but a lot like more than they're going to
travel for the rest of the season, to be honest,
you know. Yeah, the amount of home games that seem
to be able to sort of pull out of their
heads at Sunbour, it's ridiculous. I'm I'm not I'm not.
I'm not jumping off the off the wagon after that
sort of this port in first half, that's for sure.
I think the Broncos have been yeah, far from far

(39:47):
from that, far from what what sort of I expected
from them this year. You know, started the season well,
but they're just they're sort of other than The thing
that's probably working against us is that they seem they
have a good game. They're back, and a good game
in a bad game. So they've had their bad game
last week, so hopefully they can have another one this week.
But I think the Warriors will be they'll be stuck.
To get back to me smart, it's sold out about

(40:09):
a week or two ago already, I think. So yeah, yeah,
Curtos to the to the to the to the faithful
and up and aband and we need to get up
for a game. I reckon brow, we should organize organize
a trip up there. I think I think business a
business trip, you know that's sky City and burs. But yeah, no,

(40:32):
I like the worriers this week. I think they'll they'll
they'll know what they needed to better them know there
and maybe there's Yeah, as you said, like we talking
about the changes a lot. I know, but I think
maybe these changes will be will be good. That it
could be a few guys who get a shot that
wouldn't wouldn't usually and they always seems to end up well,
so you know, otherwise this weekend.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Well you know, it could be a kind of a
blessing disguise, you know, where they're making force changes. They're
not changing because of form or even though you know
you wouldn't you wouldn't go against it if they were
changes on form.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
But these are force changes.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
They are going to be made this week, and it'll
be interesting because Maybe doesn't seem to go make out
rangeous changes. He doesn't seem to unless it's forced. And
that's why I'm not holding my breath when it comes
to his changes. What I would like to see and
what you know most people would like to see. But yeah,
I still think they can, they can do the job,
and let's just see. I mean, one of the things

(41:28):
I'm actually looking forward to the game is Sean Johnson
standing in the Broncos jersey. Apparently, you know, he lost
the bet on on on his on his podcast and
the bet was a his to wear Broncos. Juwsey had
the game stand in front of the crowd and it
start chanting up the Broncos in front of everybody, and
like I remember last week watching the Broncos game, in
the post match for Sean Johnson was on the on

(41:51):
the panel, the Fox panel, and they were you know,
they were like, you know, interviewing players and one of
these respolkes and respolks at the end looking forward to
seeing Sean Johnson and the Broncos jersey.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
So the news is pretty.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I think they'll would you know, definitely have to point
that the definitely have to pinpoint where he's sitting and
make sure they get that on there.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
But you know, just just I mean, this is just
just muz Well just saying this for three things.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Usually for the fact that we work in you and
I work in comms and me and stuff like that,
and you know, when you see all these players, former players,
they just go straight into show into these kind of
roles after after after they've retired, and it's just like,
what but the people that actually studied for you.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Know, that sort of stuff. But he's actually not doing
that bad.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
I've seen him on the panel a couple of times
and he seems to be a natural, genuine natural, you know,
behind the mic.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So good on them.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
There are some because we as you know, and I
know people listening, I'm sure people will agree with where
there are some awful, awful commentators out there who are
former players. They just don't know what they're doing. They
just don't know what they're doing, but they still because
of their name, they're on there. But Sean Johnson, I
think he's actually quite a natural at what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So we put that in there.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I hope you're not talking that Blocker, right, john.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
He's up there.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I think he's the most I think he's the most
hated from commentator.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Don't disrespect blocker. You know he got love bit of I'm.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Just hearing a lot of I just hear. I mean
it's a common comment when you see does he have
to commentate on our games?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
So just just a what's Yeah. I mean, obviously he's
got you got your your Johnathan Thurston and got into
a bit of hot water on on Friday night as well.
I don't know if you followed that Sager with Spitzer
ling you, but who knows. What was said there obviously
dated back to the news comments and vegers last year

(43:37):
and how he got his band and then you obviously hasn't.
He just seems like a real hot he, you know,
like he just maybe he just needs to sort of
you know, I mean, he obviously did us at his time,
but yeah, to sort of go after someone like Thurston,
I'm well supported, even though I love Thurston, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Too, But I can understand Spencer's side as well because it's,
i mean, like you're allowed to have an opinion. And
that's what Jonathan Thurson did. He thought that his his
punishment wasn't big enough. It was eight weeks, should have
been twelve, that is what he was saying. And Spencer,
Spencer obviously took that to heart and you know, didn't.
He hasn't forgotten about it. And so when the moment

(44:20):
came when obviously person wanted to interview him because this
is what he does for his job. You know, he
just took it to heart, said why don't come up
to me and you know, be all like like where
everything's all good. So, I mean you can understand where
Spencer's coming from. But at the same time, I'm I'm
a big van a jonathanition too, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, it's just obviously yeah, a big hot head and
just keep keepers and you say it on the field,
you know, every time something happens, he just he brings
brings a lot of energy. Yeah, definitely just quite yeah,
I mean example of someone who's yeah followed that career
and I quite like fisting as a commentator. He had

(45:00):
some good, good insight, but it's also naturally just a
very funny guy and laugh and she had to keep
crop as well. I think people crop as amazing as
just his analysis is so good. Every every time he's on,
I really really enjoy hearing that.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
So yeah, some good ones out there.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, And Sean Johnson's done a good job.
There's also yeah the news today and then I just
touched it before, but a Lockie Alvin he got offered
extension for the Tigers because he's told the Tigers he'll
be leaving at the end of twenty twenty six. It
just seems a bit ridiculous to be making a call.
What it's twenty months, you know, months away. There he's

(45:46):
going to be going like, do you need to be
making a decision now that you can tell the club
but just keep it to yourself or something like Yeah,
I thought the same thing. There's no way he's seasons,
no way he stands with the next season, like you
know what contracts like an n L these days. I
just I just it's a shame to the Tiger because

(46:08):
they would be thinking, oh, you know, we're final looking
things on track. We've got low eye, we've got Galvan,
we've got cross currents. Sounds like quite clearly just said
no to the cowboys, just keep knocking at the door,
and the Tigers there's no way that you were having
There's no way leaving under my watch, which is great,
you know, like so yeah and May so May Joey

(46:31):
and bollow at the back. He's he's he's amazing. I
really like watching him. So Tigers definitely have come a
long way. But to get news like that, I just
feel like it could be a bit of a bit
of a distraction. Hopefully it's not for them. I hope
they can sort of continue and get some ones and
and make a plate for the ape. But I feel
like there'll be a bit of destruction. There'd be a
lot of noise around that decision.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, it came across as arrogant to me, to be honest,
I'm with you like this.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
It was such an early call and he's been he's been,
you know, been bared an offer that's like the biggest
one to a junior you know, in their history, in
their club's history, and he's just automatically turned it down,
thinking like, oh no, I'm better.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I think another better club is going to pick me up?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Who who?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I mean, unless he's already got something lined up already,
who's going to pick it up.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
It's not like he's anything. I mean, yes, he's good,
and he's young. He's young, he's good, but I don't
think he's anything. He's not a prodigal, you know, and
he's not something you know.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I don't know, man, it's pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I think I think he's good, but I don't think
he's worth.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Down one club that would say, you know, there, don't
think there's one club that would say no, that's what it's,
you know, like, I don't know what And I was
about a five point five million daily turned down down.
There must have been over five years I mentioned. So yeah,
it's it's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Do you think another club's going all from that kind
of money?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Oh yes, definitely. Okay to talk about guys that can
that can you know, you can take you the whole
way and win your premierships. If you get you know,
good get him behind a good pack with a you know,
a good half back or a good fallback, he'll probably
I don't know whether he's wants to play half back

(48:11):
or whether he's head been playing sex, but yeah, he
maybe that's what he wants. Maybe he wants to play
half back and he can't say there happening with the
idea for the next few years. So yeah, mentioned what
happens there.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
But yeah, but with you that he's talented, I agree
with it, he's talented. I just came it came across
as arrogant to me, that's all.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I was just like, well, why is this news if
it's happening agen months time? But yeah, yeah, also it
happens there do some some quick ups and wrap up.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, Thursday Night.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Thursday Night mentally versed the Dragons, mainly hosting the Dragons.
The Dragons obviously had on a few weeks ago, and
they had a big one. Actually gets the Titans last week.
It mainly he's uh, really struggling with that. Tommy too,
but they would barely gets the Sharks, but I just
couldn't quite quite finished. Who you got there?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Oh, Dragons.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Really Bulldogs, rabbits, Doggy's going except to low.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
That's A. That's a big game.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Apparently it's they're expecting seventy thousands, seventy thousands spectators at
their game, which is which is quite messive.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
It's Easter Good Friday. They have every year. They it's
always a big game. A.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah, that's a hard one because I don't really rate
the Bulldogs that much. I mean, they're I think they're good,
but they're not. I don't think they're awesome. You know,
I'm going to go with the Rebels. I'm going to
give them, give them the give them this one.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
That's a hard one. That's a hard one because the
Rebis aren't don't think anything special either.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
But yeah, let's have of no change as well. Like knowing,
you know, not knowing with the you know who will
be playing.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
With He's playing exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, Yeah, Dolphins, Storm the fans continue to be a
hot run and keep go through in the trot.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You know, I'm expecting Hughes not to be in the
side Melbourne. I'm expecting expecting him to be left out
to recover m hm. And that makes a big difference,
as we've seen in previous games. When he's not there,
the Storm was a different side. Still, Yeah, he is,

(50:41):
he is, he is, and we've talked about him before
how awesome he is, you know. But I still think
that without Hughes, it's it's a very different side. And
I think they're on a good run at the moment,
so I give them the Storm.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yeah, I disagree with you. Well, that's Broncos were both
going the mighty when I was at home. Yep, it
was a margin.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
One to twelve.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I'd love to get thirty bucks. So yeah, I'll just
ross Panthers. Yeah, two teams, no exactly on top of
their game, Bruce is coming off for win and Panthers
steering down the barrel of what is it now, sixth
straight losses?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Is that right, Yeah, yep, it's unlike the Panthers of
we know, especially with especially with Nathan Clary is still there,
so I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I'm going to give it to them Panthers. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I was watching the Panthers on Thursday night and they
look Yeah, Cleary is just too good for reach of
the team and the guys around them just can't keep
up with how good he is. So hopefully they can.
I don't want to see them just completely capitulate, So
we'll see what happens there. Ian's Raiders on Sunday Afternoon Titans. Yeah,

(52:05):
higher and Raiders obviously in pretty good form, My beloved Raiders.
I'm gonna I'm gonna beck the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
With ye Raiders.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Titans are looking like the Heaven had time. Nights Sharks
up next Sunday Nights at Sunday Nights have scored one
try in the last one hundred and sixteen minutes of
footing I think two tries in the last three games,
so they're looking like they're in a bit of strife
on the Tech and the Sharks locks back close back

(52:37):
to their beast, So can the Knights pull off something here? Ye?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Shots, you got your Phoenix fro was one playing at
seven at the moment, so they just other sorts.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
You know, we're in positions as well. He's not a seven.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
So yeah, and Easter Monday, you've got Tigers with the
Eels to finish it off. Tigers obviously looking pretty good
after after a good one over the Knight says today.
And the Eels it's gonna be a long season for them.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I think, yeph Now I'll give it to the Tigers.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, so it is. So that's another week up. Catch coaches,
Do you have anything to add before we call in?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
John? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah, well look before you finish up, can I just
ask you a question and just make this like a
thirty second answer, like you know earlier in the in
this in this episode, we were talking about hi a,
you know, in activation of the eighteenth demand at the moment,
it comes down to fail play, right, So but do
you think that's a been unfair that if someone's been
is ruled out of the game, even if it wasn't

(53:39):
foul play, then they shouldn't be able to activate the
eighteenth demand because the other player is either put a
report or some of it. They still get to come
back into the game and the opposition team. So yeah,
just quick just to quick answer on what you think
about that.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah, I think that if the players rolled out, but
let should just be out. I hate about it from there.
I don't see why it needs to be fail play black.
I mean, you've already only got four reserves. It's not
like Rubby Union when you've got what eight reserves you
know you got You've got four four players on the beach.
I'm all for just, yeah, debating that as soon as
someone's someone's ruled out.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Yeah, because it may not even be like, you know,
oul play or intentional, but that player still gets to
stay on there and that player is knock someone else,
you know, give them, give them a concussion. So I
just think that for me, it's like, why does they
have to be foul play too to be able to
activate the eighteenth Man. I think it should be if
the guy's ruled out and it's like the opposition that's
done it, even if it's non intentional, they should be

(54:34):
able to activate the eighteenth Man.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
So that's one question.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
The other last one want to I mean basically I
want to say, you know, about the game of the Warriors,
when we do you think we're still on track with
the season because this game was supposed to be like
the big test for the Warriors, you know, going into
the Storm. Even if we lost, Even if we lost
the game, it was still going to be it's going
to show what we were at, you know, hand hell,

(54:57):
we can handle the bigger teams, et cetera. Do you
still think I to the showing we're still you know,
we're still okay there was an on track or you know,
things have to you know, think major things have to change.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I think that if it happening it's any other team,
I'd be a bit more concerned, you know. I just
I think the Storm team seem like that quite clearly
the big team in the camp. I know that the
Bogs had the best record, but bors you know, like
until they beat the Storm. Yeah, so it happened. So yeah,

(55:30):
I mean it's not ideal, but it was good that
they could bounce back. The fact there was a few
injury issues you know, and play and players being moved
around sort of. You know, if we just had a
full strength team for the whole game and then it happened,
I'd be a bit more concerned. But it's not great
and there will be changes do have to be made,
which we know from injuries and suspensions. So I'm just

(55:53):
looking forward to seeing how we ever gets a chance
this week, how they how they stand up and give it.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
They're roll yep, fair enough my answer.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, I think this this week's game. You know, if
it happens this week, they're not be concerned. I think
if we can bounce, if we can bouncepect this week,
I think that would be huge. And we do have
a good record about to metcalf to Bret disappointments. So
I've got some of my fingers for a bit. When
for the Mighty Warriors at the Fortress Mount Smart Stadium
on the day night, I'll be watching on the couch

(56:27):
him the cold one. I'm sure you will be too.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Job, let's go. That's the sea thing. If I don't
get if I can stay healthy, stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Amen to that. Thanks listening around as always. If you
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