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July 31, 2025 • 35 mins
Finally, a chapter without a Comanche raid!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good afternoon. This is Emma, and today is the last
day of July. And yes we did. According to my vehicle,
it's one hundred and one, so we definitely hit the
triple digits. Now we have a little bit of chance
of rain about six or seven o'clock, so I've got
my fingers crossed here. We will see. So this is Thursday,

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and on Thursday we talk about Texas history. So this
is chapter nine of Mary Maverick's memoirs, and we are
about halfway, maybe well not quite halfway, we're close. There's
one hundred and eighty six pages and we're on page

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seventy eight or something like that. Anyway, this one's not
quite as graphic as the last two have been. That
we've been talking about the comanches, so this one will
be a little bit better. Does have some interesting things
in it as it relates to preparedness, so we'll talk
about those when we get there. Mister Maverick, was the title?

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It is chapter nine. The title is Family History Resumed,
which she at the beginning of her memoir she gets
way down deep into her lineage and that of her husband.
So we skipped that part because that really wasn't very
applicable to our topic. That was before they came to Texas.
But this one she does talk about relatives in this,

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but she does not get down into the weeds with
the family history. Mister Maverick was a most earnest and
enthusiastic admirer of Western Texas. Now, they lived in San Antonio,
which I don't really consider West Texas, but it's kind
of the ill country, and you know, there probably hadn't
been a whole lot of exploration west of that, so

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that might have been more what he had in mind.
And a firm believer in her future, he was constantly
in ecstasies over the beautiful valleys, the rich soil, the
charming climate. Now, okay, first of all, in the hill country,
this is just a personal opinion to me, they have

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the worst soil in the whole state because it's very rocky,
kind of gravelly. It'll kind of grow grass if you
want a ranch, but if you're gonna grow stuff like
produce and fruits and vegetables. I will say that when
the German settlers came in in the eighteen hundreds, they
had to do a lot of work to that dirt

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to get it to grow. Something, and they did. They
worked really hard at it. Charming climate, this is Texas.
Sometimes the climate's charming, and sometimes it's not, like when
it's one hundred and one okay. Often he would speak
in glowing terms of the magnificent expenses of fertile ill
and Dale. What a grand home for the toilers of Europe,

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he would say. Along with his admiration came the spirit
of speculation in land. All men of strong imagination speculated
deeply in land in those days. So brilliant and so
realistic were his visions of the future that in his
mind's eye, the future, all the far distant future, became
the tomorrow of the dreamer. Tomorrow they will come tomorrow,

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the overcrowded of the cities, the wearied sons of toil,
will come and will build up this magnificent country into
a grand empire. But the future came not to him.
In his lifetime. He saw the toilers come across the sea,
but they came not to Texas. They settled in the
Great Northwest, and there they built up empires of which

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he had prophesied. But they just weren't in the Texas Empire. However,
we got to that Eventually, mister Maverick took the greatest
delight in the surveying camp. He purchased thousands of acres
of land certificates, and he was out much of the
time locating in surveying for himself and for friends, or

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at least planning expeditions. I will tell of a trip
he made in the fall of eighteen thirty nine. He
fitted out the party and went, according to my best recolleation,
to the Medina and the San Geronimo. And those are
either gonna be creeks or rivers. You know, I'm gonna
stop here and I'm gonna tell a slight Texas funny.

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There is a list of things that you know you're
from Texas if this is true. And I won't say
all of them, but one of them is you know
you're from Texas if you have stopped associating rivers and
lakes with bodies of water. So just throw that in there.
Back to mister Maverick, he fitted out the party and went,

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according to my best recollection, to the Medina and San Geronimo.
After they started, the Mexicans killed and jerked beef at
our place, and they had a busy ti I'm packing animals.
The day they started, okay, jerking beef? Well, what is
that they're making beef jerky? How do he make beef jerky?
You dried? Now, they dried it outside in the sun.

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You can you know, like how the Indians did it,
where they sung it up and let it dry. Nowadays
you can do the same thing in your oven or whatever.
So but anyway, that was a really good source of
Protein's one of the things that we have to think
of now. If you needed a way to keep beef
or meat or protein for long periods of time, then

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the best way to do that would be to make jerky.
Mister Lapham, the Deputy surveyor, a nice gentleman from Vermont,
spent a week at our house waiting for the preparations
to be completed. When they departed, I exacted from my
husband the promise that he would return on a certain day.
He kept his word, although the work was not completed.

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He came in accordance with his promise and brought with
him one or two of the party. The very night
after he left the camp, the Indians surprised the camp
and killed everyone. Say one chain bearer who's like holds
the chain for surveyan who escaped on a fine horse.
The party went out to bury the dead and found

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the compass and papers and some of the other articles.
Eighteen forty, mister Maverick, as I have mentioned, left us
for the States quote unquote April eighteen forty and returned
the latter part of gim Now it's funny because you
know back and if you've ever watched the Waltons, the

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lady who was married to the man that on the
General's store, her name was Cora Cory Beth. I can't
remember his name, but she always referred to him. You know,
they got married. He was a bachelor for a long
long time. They got married late in life, and she
was very old fashioned, so you know, this was in

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the thirties during the depression. But she always called him
by his last name. She called him mister so and so.
So back in the this was a common practice. Women
call their husbands mister so and so. Now we won't
get into all the women's lib stuff and all that.
That's just what they did. Remember that she made him
promise he would come back, so she wasn't under his

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thumb by any stretch of the imagination. Anyway, mister Maverick,
as I have mentioned, left us for the States April
eighteen forty and returned the latter part of June. He
went to Pendleton, South Carolina when he was away, but
he told me I had not the face to go
to mother's without you and the boys. She would take

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it so to heart. So he didn't go to his
mother's house because he didn't want her to be upset
that he didn't bring Missus Maverick and the boys with him.
September sixteenth, the Mexicans celebrated Dia de Indipensia Independti. Let
me see if I can say the Independenia. There we go.

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On December twelfth, the Mexicans celebrated in grand procession Dia
de Nuestra Senora de Guadelupe Uh the patron Saint patrop
patronists Patroness Saint of Mexico and whom the priest had
identified with the Virgin Mary. Twelve young girls dressed in

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spotless white bore a platform on which stood a figure
representing the Saint, very richly and gorgeously dressed. First came
the priest in the procession, then the twelve girls bearing
the platform and carrying each in her free hand a
lighted wax candle, and then came fiddlers behind them, playing

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their violins, and following the fiddlers the devout population, generally
firing off guns and pistols and showing their devotion in
various ways. They proceeded through the square and some of
the principal streets, and every now and then they all
knelt and repeated a short prayer, an ave maria or

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a pater nostair. Finally, the procession stopped at the Cathedral
of San Fernando on the main plaza, where a long
ceremony was had. Afterwards, the more prominent families, taking the
patroness with them along with them, adjoined to mister Jose
Flores's house on the west side of Military Plaza, where

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they danced most of the night. We were invited and went,
taking with us little Sammy with his jolly golden curls
and a new suit of pea green. I'm thinking this
little boy would have loved having a suit of pea green.
Little boys nowadays would not care for a pea green suit,
but back then, I'm sure it was a big deal.
It was all quite novel and an interesting scene to me.

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The principal citizens lived in the plazas or within two
blocks of them, on Flores Is, Sequia, Soledad, commerce and
market streets. Very few of the Mexican ladies could write,
but they dressed nicely and were graceful and gracious of manner.
We exchanged calls with the Navarros, Sotos, Garzas, Garcias, Zambranos, Seginyai,

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their amendees and iturus. December December eighteen forty Uncle John
Bradley brought his family to San Antonio. They spent two
or three weeks with us, and then moved into the
house formerly occupied by the Higginbothams, who had removed to
the country. Annie Bradley was a lovely girl, very womanly

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and sweet tempered. About Christmas we attended a ball given
at Chauncey Johnston's, who had brought out his family some
two months before and resided in the Casiano house. Annie
received great attention and had a throng of admirers. About
this time, mister Gaudier, a French merchant, came to town

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with his wife and child. Eighteen forty one. We now
began to have a society and great sociability among ourselves
the Americans. During the summer eighteen forty one, mister Wilson
Riddle brought out his bride and mister Moore and his family.
These gentlemen were both merchants on Commerce Street. Mister Campbell

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married a second wife, with whom he and her sister,
Miss O'Neill. He returned to San Antonio. Mister Davis opened
a store on Commerce Street. Mister John Toohigg started a
small grocery store on the corner of Commerce Street and Plaza.
Mayor Missus Jacques had a boarding house at the southwest

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corner of Commerce and Itturi. She had a whole block
rented from Aturi and boarded all the nice young Americans
and was very hospitable and pleasant. She was a good
nurse and extremely kind to any sick or wounded, and
consequently a great favorite with a gentleman. On Easter Sunday

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of this year, she invited all the American families and
many young gentlemen to dine with her. She served her
dinner in the long room. Now I had to look
that up to see what that was. What was a
long What was a house with a long room in
San Antonio? And there were and obviously it was a
room designed to entertain in. But some houses what we

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would consider it to be the hall, and it would
not be a narrow hall, it would be a big hall.
And you know, houses were built that way. I know
lots of Texas houses are built. My house is, you know,
built in nineteen eleven, is built with a big long
haul in the middle, and it's wide. It's like nine
and a half feet wide thirty three feet long, so

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it goes from the front door to the back door.
And yes, I have entertained in it before because I
have set up tables in the middle. So that's kind
of what Megah I want to say. This is missus Higginbotham.
She served her okay, she served her dinner at the
long room or in the long room. Her dinner was

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simply elegant, and the company large and lively, lively. We
all enjoyed the day very much. In the afternoon, we
promenaded up Soledad Street in a gay and happy throng
Easter Monday, April twelfth, eighteen forty one. Agatha, our first daughter,
was born and named for my mother. She was a

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very beautiful and good baby. My mother talked of coming
out to visit her us. Her idea was that she
would come to some port on the coast and we
would go down at the appointed time meet her there.
But I had too many babies to make such a journey,
and the risk from Indians was too great, and we
did not encourage the plan. Her letters were one month

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to six weeks old when we received them. President Lamar
was very considerable, with a very considerable suite, meaning company
that he came with, visited San Antonio and jim A
grand ball was given him in Missus Etui's long room.

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All all considerable houses had a long room for receptions.
It'd be interesting to go back and see if any
of these houses from this time existed. There are some
gorgeous old houses in San Antonio. May have to do
some research on that. The room was decorated with flags

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and evergreens flowers were not much cultivated then. At the ball,
General wore a very wide war very wide white pants,
which at the same time were short enough to show
the tops of his shoes. General Lamar and Missus juan Segeine,
wife of the mayor, opened the ball with a waltz. Missus,

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I love this part. Missus sagein was so fat that
the General had great difficulty getting a firm hold on
her waist. And they cut such a figure that we
were forced to smile. I'm thinking they might have done
more than smile. The General was a poet, a polite
and brave gentleman, and a first rate conversationalist, but he
did not dance well at the ball. Hayes Chevalier and

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John Howard had but one dress coat between them, and
they agreed to use the coat and dance in turn.
Now that's interesting, because you couldn't dance unless you had
a dress coat. The two not dancing would stand at
the hall door watching the happy one, who was enjoying
his turn, and they would remind him when it was

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time for him to step out of that coat. Great
fun was it watching them and listening to their wit
and mischief as they made faces and shook their fists
at the dancing. One, John D. Morris, the adonnis of
the company, escorted, missus miss a sinsinate a sin Arsenega. Okay,

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let's try that arsenega, who, on that warm evening wore
a maroon cashmere with black plumes in her hair and
her haughty airs did not gain her any friends. You
can hear them talking about her, this is my take.
I can hear them standing over to the side and
talking to her, talking about her behind their fans. You

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know they did. Missus Duchuri had a new silk fitting
her so tightly that she had to wear corsets for
the first time in her life. She was very pretty,
waltzed beautifully, and was much sought as a partner. She
was several times compelled to escape to her bedroom to

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take off the corset and quote catch her breath, as
she said to me, who happened to be in there
with my baby? By the way, speaking of missus Achuri,
I am reminded of a party I gave several months
before this. It blew a freezing norther that day, and
we had the excellent good luck of making some ice cream,
which was a grateful surprise to our guest. In fact,

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those of the Mexicans present, who had never traveled, tasted
ice cream that evening for the first time in their lives,
and they all admired and liked it. I'm assuming that
they maybe they must have made snow ice cream, because
if they had a norther that blew in. Maybe it
blew in with snow. Now, they can't happen very often
in San Antonio, so that would be a rare event.

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In fact, those of the Mexicans present, who had never traveled,
tasted ice cream that evening for the first time in
their lives, and they all admired and liked it. But
Missus itchuri ate so much of it, though advised not to,
that she was taken with cramps. Missus Jacques and I
took her to my room and gave her brandy, but
in vain, and she had to be carried home. At

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that party, some natives remained so late in the morning
that we had to ask them to go. One man
of reputable standing carried off a roast chicken in his pocket,
and another a carving knife, and several others took off
all the cake they could well conceal, which greatly disgusted
Jenny Anderson. The cook Griffin followed the man with the

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carving knife and took it away from them. During the summer,
the American ladies led a lazy life of ease. We
had plenty of books, including novels. We were all young,
healthy and happy, and were content with each other's societies.
We fell into the fashion of the climate, dined at twelve,

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then followed a siesta or nap until three, when we
took a cup of coffee and a bath. Bathing in
the river at our place had become rather public now
that the merchants were establishing themselves on Commerce Street, because
she did live on Commerce Street and her place backed

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up to the river, because we talked about that earlier
in the book. So we ladies got permission of old
Madame Tavino, mother of missus Lockmoar, and put up a
bath house on her premises some distance up the river
on Soledad Street. Afterwards the property and homestead of the
Jacques family here between two trees in a beautiful shade.

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We went in a crowd every afternoon about four o'clock
and took the children and nurses and a nice lunch,
which we enjoyed. After the bath. There we had a
gram good time, swimming and laughing and making all the
noise we pleased. The children were bathed, and after all
were dressed, we spread our lunch and enjoyed it immensely.

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Now I'm gonna say, in the heat in the afternoon
This probably wasn't a bad thing to do, so I
can't blame them for doing that. The ladies took turns
in preparing the lunch, and my aunt, Missus Bradley, took
the lead in nice things. Then we had a grand
and glorious gossip, because before we were all dear friends,
and each one told the news from our far away

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homes in the States. Nor did we omit to review
the happenings in San Antonio. We joked and laughed away
the time, for we were free from care and happy.
In those days. There were no envyings nor backbody, which
that sounds kind of nice. In September, Mother wrote she
had determined to visit us, that she would leave Robert

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and Lizzie at school, and that George would accompany her.
Wim and Andrew were then on the San Marcus, because
those are her brothers that had already come up Mary's brothers.
She wrote, she would set out about October first, and
should she like our town, she would sell out in
Tuscaloosa and move to San Antonio. That letter arrived late

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in October, and soon after it came a letter from
Professor Wilson to mister Maverick, and a letter from missus
Snow to me telling us that my dear mother was
no more. She was taken with congestive chills. The first
had been severe, but the second was light, and two
weeks having elapsed after the second chill, Doctor Weir her precision,

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considered her out of danger from a third Lizzie had
come home from school and slept in the adjoining room.
A servant girl, much attached to my mother's, slept on
a pallet before her door. Mother would not allow anyone
to set up with her now, and her tonic lamp
and watch were placed on a table near her. A
third hill must have come on during the night, for

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by the early morning light on October the second, they
found that my dear mother was cold and dead. Oh
what a grief to me was this first great loss
of my life. Her heart had been so set upon
seeing me that I now blamed myself for not going
to meet her at the coast when she had proposed it.

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Mother had a sorrowful widowed life where she was not
always successful in managing business or governing her boys. She
blamed herself for her want of success, as she called it,
and she seldom smiled nor appeared to enjoy life. She
was a devoted mother, but probably too strict with her children,

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and she was a humble, faithful Christian. Her death was
to me a sudden awakening from a fancied security against
all possible evil. Slowly and sadly, I came to realize
that my dear mother had left this world forever and
we should not meet again on earth. That's what you

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have to realize is when she's writing this and she's
talking about her and all the other ladies in San Antonio,
they were all very young. They were in their twenties,
because back then they got married in their teens. That
was not unusual, and so you know, they might have
had a house full of kids, but they were still
in their twenties when all this was going on. And

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so it's one of those things where she learned that,
you know, just because you can't take for granted what
you have, because you don't know what tomorrow is gonna bring.
In a lot of times, that's a lesson learned as
you get older and more mature. And that's basically what
she's saying here. President Lamar's visit to San Antonio and
June was to sanction and encourage an expedition to Santa Fe,

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New Mexico. The object of the expedition was to open
a line for commerce between the two sections and get
a share of the lucrative trade between Santa Fe and Lexington.
Zouri Lamar gave the project his sanction and encouragement, furnished
government mental supplies, and sought the endorsement of Congress that'd

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be the Texas Congress. He appointed William G. Cook, Don
Ja Navarro, and R. F. Brenham. It's funny because these
are all names of towns in Texas now commission commissioners
to go with the expedition. The expedition, after much delay,
set out from Brushy that be Brushy Creek near Georgetown

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on the twentieth of June eighteen forty one. The party
consisted of two hundred and seventy armed men under General
Hugh MacLeod, and fifty traders with wares and pack mules.
And there were also servants and some supernumeraries. I had
to look up supernumeraries and see what that was. That's like,

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additional armed men are additional soldiers in addition to the
ones you already had. Okay, with to me, kind of redundant,
that's what it was. Some of our brave young men
of San Antonio were in the party. The unfortunate expedition,
its total failure, and the unhappy causes and consequences of

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the final disaster are told with great vigor and fidelity
by George W. Kendall, who and then we've got some
pictures here, who was of the party and wrote a
thrilling history or narrative of the expedition. It was strongly
believed by many that Juan Sagine, who had held the

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honorable position of Mayor of San Antonio and Representative Congress
from Bahar, and being a man of great pride and ambition,
had found himself surpassed by Americans and somewhat overlooked in
official places, had become dissatisfied with the Americans and had
to open communication with the officials of Mexico, exposing the

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entire plan from its inception as quote, invading Mexican soil.
Because New Mexico was part of Mexico at the time.
Certain it is that Governor Armeo of New Mexico was
early advised of the expedition in order to capture and
put to death the whole party. From this time, Sageine

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was suspected and padre Garza, a rich and influential, rich
and influential priest, was known to carry on traitorous correspondence
with the Mexican authorities. Positive proof, however, was not obtained
until padre Garza escaped. Sageine indignantly denied the charge and

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many suspected judgment and many suspended judgment. His father, don
Erasmo Sageine, was a cultivated and enlightened man who had
befriended Stephen F. Austen in a Mexican dungeon, and had
been friendly with the America Consis, and was very much

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esteemed by all. So that's the end of that chapter,
and we'll move on to the next chapter, chapter ten,
next week. So what can we get from this, Well,
there's several things. First of all, I talked about how
they prepared for a trip or an expedition when he
was going out to survey by creating beef jerky, And

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so that's kind of a cool thing that kind of
gives you an idea of what people did to preserve
food before there was such thing as refrigeration and freezers,
and that kind of goes along with our history of canning.
What did they do when they couldn't can or didn't
or didn't have cans or canning equipment. That's what they did.

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The Indians did it. The people that came in and
settled the pioneers, they learned it from the Indians and
it was a standard practice. You also saw how they
as more people came, they created, as she said, a society.

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So they had parties, they had get togethers. They One
of the things they did to stay cool is they
went to the river. And I don't know that you
could call that. It sounded more like they were swimming
in the river and not bathing per se. But it
was a really good way for the women and the

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children to cool off in the hottest part of the day.
Now it's not. Now. I was gonna say it's not
as as humid in San Antonio as it is in
other parts of Texas, but I'm gonna take that back,
because there's a river that flows through the middle and
so that increases the humidity. Also, she gets into some

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politics with the trip to Santa Fe the expedition, and
I did do a little research on that. It was
a total disaster, and the whole expedition company was captured

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and taken I will say it's at south Way South
like to Ventura or whatever, and was eventually released and
allowed to make their way back to Texas. So but
I won't say like probably at least two years they
were captured, so maybe one. So that was that kind

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of you know, politics is always has a has an
influence on what happens in our lifetime, and sometimes we
have control of that and sometimes we don't. You see
in this particular chapter the influences of the different nationality

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that came to San Antonio, of which there were multitudes
you saw. You know, obviously the the Americans and the
Mexicans seemed to get along reasonably. Well. Now you had
the thing with Sageine, and you know he was he
was one of the commanders in the Jason's Army with

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Sam Houston when they fought against Santa Anna. So he
was a big deal. And it talks about his father
and has father works with Stephen F. Austin with the
original colonies. But you still had some little friction there.
You had maybe had a little intrigue going on, And
that sounds very similar to the things that we have
going on today. But what I think is interesting is

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how she describes the different things that, you know, what,
what the different cultures brought together in San Antonio, because
she would talk about some of the things that they
would do as Americans, some of the things that the
Mexicans would do. You know, they had the doctor that

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was from Russia. They had the Frenchman, she talked about him.
So there was a whole bunch of different cultural influences
in San Antonio, but they all seem to get to
get along. Now, eventually after this, because this is the
very beginning in the second half of the nineteenth century,
then you're gonna get also the German influence that's gonna

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come in. He had the German settlers, kind of like
mister Maverick said, the toilers from Europe. So you have
some high placed folks in Germany that go to Texas
and they come back and telling all the people that want
to leave Germany and settle in Texas about how wonderful

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it is. And then they get them there and it
wasn't quite what they were promised it would be, but
they were highly The German people were also highly successful
in the Hill country you've got Fredericksburg and several very
prosperous towns in the Hill country. Uh, it's funny to

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go to that part of the state. And like if
you look at names that you see listed on things,
maybe signage, I would say newspaper, but there's not very
many of those anymore. But anytime you see different publications
with people's names in it, and they have a lot
more consonants than they have vails, Okay. And you can

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tell that these people came from Poland, Germany, Czechoslovakia. There,
there's all different kinds of European names there. But even
at this point in time before that, you've got Americans
and Mexicans. You have multitudes of cultures, but they seem
to be getting along well, which is in and sharing

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their culture with each other, which is kind of a
neat thing. Okay. So that gets us through Mary Maverick's
diary or memoirs. And that was chapter nine and chapter ten.
We will take up next week tomorrow we'll talk about

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what we're gonna what I what I hope to do
on the weekend. My phone says we have a sixty
something percent chance of rain on Saturday. I'm keeping my
fingers crossed. We are supposed to have some kind of
quote cold front unquote where it's gonna instead of be
one hundred and one, it's going to only be ninety one.
But that's ten degrees, and we will take every degree

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we can get if that'll help us get at least
a little bit of start before it jumps back up
in August, because if we still have a ways before
what we call in the fall, if it's a good year,
it happens in September. For the last couple of years,
it happened till October. We call that when the heat breaks.

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And what happens is you go from not having upper
nineties and one hundreds to having maybe low nineties and
if you're real lucky, maybe a high eighty or two.
So we're looking forward to that time. That's when it
gets to be something where you can actually breathe. I
will say that this and it's not even as hot

(34:25):
as it was last year, so it's not like I
can complain about this, but the heat at this time
of year, trying to water and take care of the
garden is kind of whooping me down, okay, because it's
hot and staying as we call it laid up under
the air in the house is a much more tempting

(34:47):
activity than going out and watering in standing in the
blazing sun, so we call this Friday Eve. We got
one more day till the week, kind of start the weekend,
so I will talk to you tomorrow
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