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August 27, 2025 • 22 mins
There are challenging circumstances throughout our lives. How we react to those circumstances makes all the difference.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is am I Wednesday is August the twenty seventh.
I know I always start my morning off with a
weather report, but that's one of the things about living
in the country is that the weather is very important
because you're in it and you you know, it makes

(00:22):
a difference if it rains, because then your crops will survive,
or maybe it rains too much and they don't survive.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
There's lots of different things that are going on.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
So the sun is shining on me right now, but
it's sprinkling rain, so it looks like we have rain
for a little while.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
We've got a pretty good.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Chance for at least the next three days, which that's exciting.
So we can always use rain and that means I
don't have to water, so I'm good with that. Okay,
So what are we gonna talk about today for a Wednesday?
We have not talked about a prepper mindset in a while,
and I thought that might be a good topic. We

(01:02):
are undergoing a very large, extended construction project at work,
and that is a that that always creates issues, and
one of the things is that it you know, first
of all, we don't really have enough room for everybody
at this point in time, and we're fixing the fixing

(01:24):
that's a that's a Texas word. We are preparing in
case you don't know what it means to be fixing
to do something, And it makes sense because fixing and
preparing is you fix dinner or you prepare dinner. So anyway,
that was a decide in a Texas language word, we
are fixing to do something. So we are fixing to
shut down a fairly significant portion of the office part

(01:51):
of our building and the people who are in that
part of the building are going to be displaced somewhere else,
and we don't have enough room for people as this,
so that's going to be somewhat of a dilemma, and
we're trying to figure out how to do that in
the least invasive way possible.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
And so one of the things that this is.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Going to require is a lot of flexibility on people's part,
all of our parts.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
My people in my department are going to have to
vacate our spaces here shortly, not shortly December, although December
we'll turn around and it'll be December, because you know,
summer flew by, so we got we've got between now
basically September the first and December to figure out what

(02:44):
we're going to do and get it all done because
we need to be out of our space by the
first of January, okay, And I'm going to say we
might even have to be out of it before then.
I think our facilities person is giving us is trying
to be nice and as easy to get along with

(03:04):
as you possibly can. So we had a meeting yesterday
in our in our group on our team, and we
did an exercise that I had done in another group
and I think the person who who put this together

(03:26):
is Brenne Brown. I will put a link to this
exercise in the description in case anybody wants to do this,
and it is. It's a page, three columns, so it's
a lot of words and they're like work values, like
what values are the most important to you. Well, there's

(03:49):
a whole bunch of words on there that we would
also are important when you're talking about work that you
start out with that you choose fifteen of those words.
And as I said, it's three columns, so it's a
lot of words. You choose fifteen of the words that
are most important to you, and then from those fifteen,

(04:11):
you narrow it down to two. Somebody pointed out to
me that Brene Brown's is picked three. We only picked
two when I did that exercise. That's what we did yesterday.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I think either one of those would be fine.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I like the two because it kind of makes you
distill it down even more, and some of the words
could feed into other words.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I had to think about that when I was coming
up with my two words.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
My two words are make a difference or making a difference, and.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Perseverance.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
And so I think, you know, I don't think you
could ever meet somebody who's moved a house that was
didn't have perseverance, because you know, it took twelve years
to restore the sous doing it ourselves, and that was
not a small job. And so perseverance is very very
important to me.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I think it's a In.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Fact, I will say I'm not a quitter, but I
will say that sometimes it is. I'm not a quitter
to my own detriment, and I need to realize when
it is time to quit. So the whole point of
this is, and if we look at it from the
perspective of preparedness, self sufficiency, all that kind of stuff,
if you look at the words, what words are most

(05:30):
important to you? What words do you think define you
as a person. Okay, So the man who is my
immediate supervisor, he just took this because my immediate supervisor
retired in the spring and this man took her place.
And I was delighted for that to happen because he
is he is a very He was a good choice

(05:57):
for this job. I'll put that way, because I don't
want to.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Give one give away his words.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So, uh, we we had our like our annual meeting
last Friday, and I said, so, what were your words?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And I was not shocked when he told me what
they were.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
His two words were kindness and truth and he is
probably the kindest person I've ever met, and he is
a person. Now, integrity was on that list too, and
I'm gonna say he's a man of great integrity, but
truth would be it would be one of the most.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Important things to him. And I see that.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Our boss at the top his two words were leadership
and perseverance, and and that that was really a good
description of him. He is an outstanding leader. He knows
how to get things done.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
He really he thinks of the of the whole organization
before he thinks of himself personally, and that is essential
in a leader.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think and what is good for the group over
what is good for him personally.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And so, but he he's not, you know, just holding
people's hands and make you know. He's not a person
that lists people make excuses. He's a person moving us forward.
And that is leadership in its best form. So he
is probably one of the best leaders I have ever
worked for. So that gives you a kind of an

(07:28):
example of what some of the words were.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So we did this yesterday as.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
A team, and I actually took a few minutes yesterday
afternoon and perused the list to see what my people chose,
and it was not unusual. For example, one of the
things that several of the programmers chose is they chose creativity.
So it's important for them to have the opportunity to

(07:55):
be created. Well in our line of work, they get
to do that. And so, but that will help me
going forward as I work with them that they are
that that's important to them, and I need to make
sure that that that we honor that, okay, and that
they are able to use they they are able to
be creative in what they do.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Generally speaking, when they do that, they're very good at it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
One of our programmers is his other word was excellence,
and that is absolutely a good description of him because
everything he does is at a high level of excellence.
And you know, as I told him one time, I said,
your fingerprints are all over everything we have done since
you've been here, because he is that kind of person. So, uh, now,

(08:46):
what does all this have to do with privic Well,
it has to do with it, because well, what's happening
to us is that we are going to be in
a suboptimal situation here pretty soon where we're gonna have
a whole lot more people than we have space to
put them in. So what we're gonna have to do

(09:08):
is adjust to that. Now, there are various ways to
do that. Of course, since COVID, there's all kinds of
working from home, and we do have some remote workers
in our on our team, and so you know that
bar won't change. But the people who've been coming to
the office, I'm a firm believer in, and I've said
this before, we actually, productivity wise, get more done if

(09:32):
we are together than we get done if we're in
our isolated houses. Even if we're on zoom with each
other all the time, it's just not the same. And
so I was struggling with you know, obviously the programmers
the ones that can sit in front their computers, so
they might if we were gonna send people home, they
would be the ones most likely to go. But I

(09:55):
didn't want to do that for seven months and never
lay eyes on them again, and so I don't think
that is conducive to a productive environment. So one of
our team yesterday came up with the idea of what
if we alternated people, like some people came in on Wednesday,
money Wednesday and Friday, some people came in on Tuesday

(10:16):
and Thursday, and then you know, we switched the next
week or whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
And I thought that might work.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So I will shortly get with our facilities person and
see if we can figure out a way to work
this out so that I can do that, because I
think that'd be a better plan. But back to the
prepping part, when we are trying to do things, I mean,
and this is it is kind of like I said yesterday,

(10:45):
we don't have any control over what's going on on
the stature at the federal level. Now we can vote
and hopefully we can do our best at voting. Many
times I feel like when we're trying to vote, we're
voting for whatever is the lesser of the evils, And
I don't know that that's a good option. But there's
a lot of things going on in our world that

(11:06):
we don't have a control over. We don't in my world.
I'm home control over this construction project. It needs to
be done and we're just gonna have to get through it.
But we're gonna have to be adaptable, and we're gonna
have to pivot and we're gonna have to do things
differently than we've done them up till now. And that
actually lends itself to the world of being self sufficient,

(11:30):
being prepared, and all that kind of stuff. Is that
we may not be in a situation we want to
be in, but what can we do to maximize that
situation as best we can. Okay, for example, yesterday, as
I said, Pitball talked about, is moving to the country

(11:51):
for you, Well, it may be for some people and
it may not be for others. If you're talking about
an older person, maybe an older person that's alone and
they have a lot of doctor appointments or whatever, they
may it may be a really bad thing for them
to move to the country where they're having to drive
a long way to get to a medical appointment that,

(12:15):
you know, if something happened, they fail or whatever, the
you know, it would be hard for the ambulance get there.
They're isolated from other people, they're not around other people.
That could be a really bad situation for them, and
they need a different kind of situation.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
They may need to live in a small town.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Eventually they may have to live in like you know,
there's multiple places around here that have this.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
As those of us who are older continue to age.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You know, I have thought about the fact that I
don't know that I can keep this place going forever.
There will come a point in time when I'm not
physically able to do this anymore. Now, I hopefully be
able to pay some people, but if I can't get
out and do some things, then we may have to
come up with another arrangement. As people get frail and old,

(13:05):
then they have to think of other options. So, you know,
for example, one of my friends has her husband's grandmother
lives in It's not really so much assisted living as
it's like almost senior apartments. It's a very nice facility.
But she has her own apartment and she was driving

(13:27):
up until a short period of time ago. Because she
accidentally had a record, she ended up inside a dollar store.
But that happens to older people. All of us are
gonna come are gonna face the time when we are
not physically able to drive anymore, and that's gonna make
living in the country pretty tough because there is no

(13:49):
such thing as public transportation. Where she's at now, she's
able to you know, they have their facility, has like
Tuesdays and Thursdays, they go to walmartin some other day
that go somewhere else, so they have the ability to go,
but they have to have assistance with that. And so

(14:09):
that's as I said, that's going to happen to all
of us. So we have to be able to look
at our situation and see what is the best thing
to do and how can I use whatever my situation
is at this point to my best advantage.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is homesteading right for me? Well in some cases it
might be. In some cases it's not.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know, this is the place I have lived since
I was six years old, and there's not a reason
for me to leave at this point, but someday, when
I'm too old to take care of this place, then
it may be necessary for me to move and go
to some place where I am closer to other people.
So and it's something that I would have to take

(14:54):
into consideration.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
At some point.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Having said that, we can still be prepared to the
best viability, We can still have skills, or we can
be at least as we get older, teaching other people
of skills, and that's not a bad thing, but we
have to be able to adapt and.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Change with the situation.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
And as I had said before, and I think I did.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
A whole.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Whole podcast on this, the word of the decade is unprecedented.
And I don't think when we turn the you know,
when the clock turned from December thirty first, twenty nineteen
to January the first, twenty twenty, we really had any
idea that that was going to be our word for
the decade. Because everything that has happened since twenty twenty

(15:50):
has been unprecedented. And we've had a bunch of that,
and it's like, are we not running out of categories
to be unprecedented?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
At so far we have not.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Apparently we've had thousand year floods, we've had a pandemic,
we've had.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Earthquakes, you name it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
We've had it happen in the last five years, and
we don't show any signs of slowing down. So we're
gonna have to look at our circumstances and see what
we need to do to adapt to those circumstances in
ways that make it easier for us to deal with.
For example, one person in our department yesterday after we

(16:32):
were talking about the construction and how we were going
those of us who were especially on one side of
the department, our offices were not gonna be accessible at
all because we were gonna be in the construction zone.
One person that their office is in that area went
to his supervisor to say that his anxiety level was

(16:55):
really high because he might have to go work in
an area where it was just open and people working
at their computers.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I was like, you're going to get over.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
That, because that may very well be what happens. We're
not in a place where you get to have anxiety.
Anxiety is like a first world problem. It's one of
those things where you know, suck it up because nothing
there's too many things going on.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
If you think about what happened to people in history.
As I said before, that's one reason.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Why I like reading the words of someone who lived
in a previous century. As we're reading Mary Maverick's words,
we're hearing about her living in horrific circumstances. And you know,
they're fixing stuff on the shelf and making their house,
their little cabin look pretty. And I mean they're taking

(17:53):
horrific situations and doing the best they can with those
and adapting to them and looking on the bright side.
And you know, how can I make this better? How
can I make this easier? How can we instead of
coming and saying my anxiety level is high? Well, as

(18:14):
I said, anxiety is a first world problem. If you
have a if you have a situation you don't have
any control over, you're just gonna have to figure out
how to.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Deal with it.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Now, that's probably highly unpopular as an opinion, and it
is an opinion because there's so many people in this
world who in the twenty first century, there are way
more anxious people at this point than there are than
there ever was in previous centuries, when what they had

(18:47):
to deal with was much harder than what we have
to deal with if you take into consideration how easy
our lives are compared to previous centuries and times in civilization,
we don't have anything to be anxious about.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
We don't have people.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Dying around us on a regular basis, we don't have
people getting sick. You know, Infant mortality if nothing else,
was one of those things where this truck is like
sitting in the middle of the road and won't move over.
If you think about how many people had children that

(19:25):
didn't live to adulthood. Now, there can't be much worse
than that, but people survived it. So for us to
say that we're gonna have an anxiety level that's high
because we might have to sit in a place with
you know.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Besides, somebody else with a computer is utterly ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
And he and I'm not picking on him, per se,
there are other people with the same problem. Uh, they're
anxious about things that there's no reason to be anxious.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's no legitimate reason.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
One of the things that I, you know, has amazed
me about h Mary Maverick and her situation is they're
literally running from the Mexican Army. They are refugees, living
wherever they can find a space, but yet she wants
her sister to come live with them. It's like, well,
you know, it's a little safer over there in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
But she is like, oh, no, come live with us.
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
So they just accepted their situation for what it was
and dealt with it to the best of their abilities.
And truly that's what we need to do. And I
would say, as twenty first century of people, we're not
really always very good at that.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
But I'm afraid that times are gonna get hard.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Enough where we better get good at it because we're
not gonna have much of a choice.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
We're very arrogant. I've said this before.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
If we think that the things that happened to people
in the past are not gonna happen to us just
because we're later on in society, you know, in history,
well we just don't have things happen like that now.
They might not happen, may not have happened in our lifetime,
that does not mean they won't.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Happen again at some point.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Back to these unprecedented natural disasters, Think about the people
that had to deal you know, here, pretty soon it's
coming up on the anniversary. If it's not already the
anniversary of well not guess this next month of Hurricane Helene.
Those people didn't have any idea they were going up
like that. Some of them are still living in tents.

(21:35):
They're lucky if they have one of the little Amish
tiny homes. They spent the whole winter that way and
the whole summer. So there's a lot of people who've
had to live with very challenging circumstances.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
And if we have.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
A roof over our head and food to eat and
water to drink, then we don't really have much to
complain about.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, I have arrived at the office, and again.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
We have a lot to do. That's kind of like, uh,
I feel like a broken record. I say that every day.
But I will talk Tomorrow's Thursday, so we will find
out some more about Mary Maverick tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Talk to you soon.
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