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September 5, 2025 • 19 mins
How have people in the past made do in hard times?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning is Emma.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
And today is Friday the fifth, and this is Bubba
Dog's birthday.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
He is eight years old.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now the question b why is a Bubba Dog's birthday
and not Sisy Dog's birthday since they came from the
same letter. Well, that would be because she decided to
be born a whole twenty four hours later than her litters,
so tomorrow is her birthday. She was a surprise. We

(00:32):
didn't know she was coming later, but she did. Since
that time, she's had fomo because she is all in
a tizzy if she's not included in whatever's going on.
And I think because she thinks she has missed out
because everybody left her and she was in her mama
by herself. So anyway, but today's Bubba Dog's birthday. It's

(00:55):
hard to believe that they are eight years old this year,
so that's crazy. We'll have to have some little doggy celebrations.
I always get them a new collar and leash for
their birthday and.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Hopefully it's gonna arrive today. That's what it's supposed to. Okay,
So what else is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, Friday, so you know, getting ready for doing stuff
over the weekend. Although it looks like we have rain
coming again. We were supposed to have a hurricane, Hurricane
Loraino was supposed to come across Mexico from the Pacific,
which we do have. Hurricanes do that upon occasion, intakes.

(01:42):
It's not often, but we do have a few and brings.
I mean, well, we all we get out of it
at that Point's a lot of rain, but it's rain,
so we're not gonna you know, we're gonna turn it down.
But it has decided to skirt the coast in uh instead,
so Hurricane Loraina is not coming this way.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
There is an invest something, you know, which is like
a priest storm.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
That is such a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
In the Atlantic that looks like it's trying to move
a little farther south and if it does that, it
will get into the Gulf possibly, So we don't know
where that will go.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
So we have to watch that for the next couple
of days.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Seventy three according to my vehicle, did get up to
ninety four ninety five yesterday, so it was pretty warm.
But still I don't think the further we get into September,
the less likely at this point for us to have
the brutal heat we had for the last two years,
so I'm certainly not complaining about that.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So but we do have a coal front coming. So
it's supposed to cool off this weekend and rain tonight
in tomorrow maybe, so that's not a bad thing either.
It gives it rained last weekend, so if it'll rain
about once a week, that will give us I don't
have to water that way, which is nice. The peanuts

(03:09):
are coming along fine. I did a little weating. I
need to do some more weating. The weeds are not
as bad as I anticipated them being, but there's some
behavior grass growing up in them, so I need to
weed that out. I still need to and obviously a
weekend when it's raining it's not a good option.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
But I need to spread the fruit.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Trees and I need to prune the blackberries, and I
have not done that, so they're kind of running a mug.
At this point, I'm trying to think what else is
going on. That's probably about all that's going on on
the property. The nice thing about this time of the year,
since I am not trying to plant a fall garden

(03:51):
this year, thought about Yukon potatoes, but it never did
get around to those, so we're just gonna go with
our last harvest being the peanuts. Now, the pear tree
doesn't have a lot of pears this year, but it
does have some, so.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
We will harvest the pears.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
The pear butter is highly popular with our friends, and
so we will make some more pear butter this fall.
So there's that and the peanuts I usually harvest around Thanksgiving,
so those and then you know, shortly thereafter in January
be time to plant the onions and we'll start this

(04:28):
garden season business all over again. So that's a good
thing about having a long growing season, is that you
have something going on all the time. Now, not tomorrow,
but a week from tomorrow, work friend and myself are
going to excuse me, going to an herb class that

(04:57):
one of the county mastered, not my cow, but one
of the adjacent counties, neighboring counties is having a like
an herb workshop, and so we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Go do that.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So hopefully I can get some herbs and learn more
about them and that kind of thing. That is something
I want to do and I haven't done it yet,
so I want to see about getting into herbs.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
And so that that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I can grow on the I can grow in the
house and put them outside when it's warm and inside
when it's freezing, so that'll be okay.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I have my.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Green stalk tower that I will be putting together soon.
I need to get my and I think it's it's
either the end of September first of October when you're
supposed to plant the bread, the bare route strawberries, and
I will get my U were set up and we'll

(06:01):
do that. We'll have to worry about a frost until
about at least the mid November. Now this may be
a winter, may be a bigger deal. We're at least
getting an early start on falling. While I'm not I'm
not unhappy about getting an early start on fall I'm
not particularly looking forward to a cold winter either. The

(06:23):
one of the things that people do in the South
is we quote read the per Simon seeds unquote. And
Patera with Appalachian Homestead with Petera is her YouTube channel.
She has read her seeds and I want to say

(06:43):
they all came out with spoons, and she had she
might have one knife.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
A spoon means.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
You're like you're gonna be shoveling snow, so it's gonna
be cold, and a knife means you're gonna have a cold,
biting or cutting wind. Uh. So that's but she's an
Eastern Tennessee, so that's a long way off to be
predicted in my weather. So I haven't seen anybody around
here in this area who has posted on Facebook or

(07:11):
whatever that they have read their presim and see yet,
So we'll have to see how that goes. But it's
the heat broke and it cooled off earlier this year
than obviously it did the last year. Is now normally
what happens is sister has always said her birthday is
next Friday, week from today, and she has always said

(07:37):
that's about the time of one of the county fairs
in this area, and that about the time of her
birthday in this county fair is when it starts raining,
and so, you know, but we've kind of had rain along,
so we haven't been overly dry. We had a little
bit of time and probably an end of July versus

(07:58):
of August that was dry, but the vast majority of
the time has been we've had at least some rain
going on a little about every week or.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Two and that has been huge.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean that makes a big, big difference because it
keeps things from drying out. We not had to have
a burn band, thankfully. So this has been a nice,
a nicer summer in the fall.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
But it's getting kind of an early start.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
So you know, we look on the good side, but
sometimes we look on the band side and go, ah,
what does that mean? Hopefully it doesn't mean a hard winter,
but we'll see, Okay. One of the things I wanted
to talk about was how people, you know, when we

(08:48):
when I let me put it that way, when I
listen to podcasts, YouTube channels, that kind of thing, and
I listen to people talk about what's gonna happen if
we have some kind of grid down or catastrophic event
or SHDF or all.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
They they portray what's gonna happen in a certain way,
and there's usually a theme, and a lot of times
it sounds like these post apocalyptic fiction novels that people write,
which all kind of tend to go the same way.
And the problem is and that you know, I'm not

(09:29):
saying it couldn't happen, because it could, but I always
think that what we should do is we should look
at how people dealt with hard times in history.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Okay, so what did people? Now?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Having said that, I will say that there's a fundamental
difference between how and I'm gonna be controversial and just
throw this out there. I'm gonna say there's a fundamental
difference between how Christian people handle hard times and folks
who are not Christian handles hard times. And I mean,
that's my opinion. For what that's worth those the whole

(10:08):
purpose of having a podcast, just according to JJ on
Reality Survival, is to share my opinion.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
So that's what I just did. That's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
If I go back and I look at what happened
to Mary Maverick, her family, the people she knew in
Texas in the eighteen forties, when things were extremely not
I could say, dire harsh. They had austere circumstances. You know,

(10:39):
look at how many people died in the cholera epidemic.
But in addition to that, there was as you referred
to her as old Lady Tremble or missus Trimble, as
she said, had been in Texas for twenty years, had
to fight Indians herself, Her first husband was killed I'm
assuming in an Indian fight.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
But then her second husband died at.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
The Alamo, her daughter's husband died uh in some kind
of battle, and then the daughter died in childbirth. And
so here she is raising twin girls of her own
and her granddaughter by herself. Okay, and so and you

(11:25):
know they as they stayed with her, you would assume
that they I don't know if they gave her anything
for staying or you know, if she was like sort
of running a boarding house or what. But you're talking
about people that lived through very hard times. You can
go back and look at how did the British deal
with World War Two? How did they uh and and

(11:49):
you can see that in many cases they pulled together and.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It made it made a difference.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, So looking at how people have dealt with hard
times before, now, I'm gonna contrast that with what Mary
said yesterday in the part that we read about the
men who the way they dealt with with the epidemic

(12:14):
is they just went and got drunk and then they
died drunk. So you know, that wasn't real helpful that
it How we deal with hard times, I'm gonna say
it depends on our a mindset and b foundation.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
What is it we have tied our life to. What
do we believe?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
That kind of thing, but looking at things that we
can do to make hard times easier. There's a book
about quilts from the nineteen thirties, because there was a
revival of quilting for a variety of reasons in the
nineteen thirties. Since nineteenth that my mother was born in
twenty four, so you know, we're talking about when she

(12:58):
was growing up as a child and or a teenager.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
She and my brother, she and my husband. Let me
try that again.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
She and my father married in nineteen forty and she
was sixteen.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So if you.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Look at that book is very interesting because it talks
about how women responded to the hard times of the
Great Depression by quilty. Now, how did they quilt well
in the country in this area? I will say one
of the things that they would have used everything they

(13:38):
had that.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Was they would have there was nothing went to waste.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
And a good example of that is the feed sack fabric.
Now I forget, you know, as a person who's a
quilt her, I forget that normal people don't know what
that means. And I want to say it started to
and I think I've done an episode on this, and
started in the late eighteen hundreds. Manufacturers figured out that

(14:08):
you could put feed and flour and sugar and large.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Amounts of things.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think they used to pack them in barrels, which
was heavy and not a good way to transport things.
But when the railroad came in, they were able to
pack things in or ship things in.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Cotton sacks.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And those cotton sacks were then you know, people bought
things by they bought their chicken feed, they bought their coffee,
that bought their flower, the sugar, you know, because back
then people bought large amounts of things because they didn't
run to Walmart every evening okay after work. So uh,
you know, when you bought flour, you bought probably you know,

(14:51):
fifty pounds back of flour and then you went through
that flour and then you made sure you had some
more flowers. So the same thing with sugar or whatever.
Because people the country stalked up because they didn't go
to town that often. Okay, Well, the manufacturers figured out that
women were using those cotton sacks for fabric to make things.

(15:15):
They were like making curtains and in many cases, underwear
and various things that they could use.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
So they got the bright idea to print them with
you know, pretty patterns.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
They put flowers, and you could have novelty prints, and
some of them even printed them with the outline of
dolls and you could, you know, sew a doll for
your child or whatever. So you had lots of different
things going on with these feed sacks. And feed sacks
were kind of a normal part of my life, at
least when I was little, because I remember going to

(15:50):
the feed store and buying feed in the cotton sacks
and then using those sacks, if nothing else, for quilt fabric.
There's lots of quilts still surviving today that are made
out of feed sacks, and it's.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Usually pretty obvious to tell, uh.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
In fact, I bought them just feedsacks that were never
made up into quilts, which I'm sure my mother would
be rolling in her grave, and if she knew I
paid for a feedsack, that was part of the issue.
They were free, so anyway, they came in all these
colorful patterns, and women would take that fabric and if

(16:30):
you could get several feedsacks of the same print, then
you could use that to make a dress for a
little girl or you I mean, you know, the feed
sacks are not huge, so you can't make a lot
with one feedsack, but you could collect several feed sacks.
You might even be able to make your self address.
So that was a good example of how people used

(16:52):
what they had at hand, and so the whole purpose
of this book, it's called off Covers for Hard Times.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's a good book.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I have it and I've read it, but it talks
about how women used things that were at hand to
be able to make things for their home. And so
what would have happened is that, especially in the country,
women would have used those feet sacks.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
For fabric for their quilts.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
They would have also because back then, you know, most
people grew cotton as their cash crop, especially in the
rural south, and so they would have taken the cotton,
like gotten the cotton that was left from the peaking,
like around the edges or whatever, or they'd have just
picked what they needed for this. They would have carted

(17:49):
their own cotton. They would have made their own bats
and are batting, and then they would have sown that
quilt from materials that they had on hand. That didn't
cost anything, so they were able to make blankets and
quilts and things to keep their family warm and their
house to look better. But they did it with almost

(18:10):
nothing as far as paying for something. I have a
quilt from the I want to say. My quilt is
from the thirties and it was.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Not made like that.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But I had it appraised one time and the lady
was making the comment she was from New York City.
That told me everything I need to know. She's very nice.
But anyway, she said they were taught. I guess when
she went to quilt a braisal school that anything that
had cotton seeds in it was from the eighteen hundreds,

(18:47):
because anything in the twentieth century would have had commercial batting.
Which that might have been true in the North, that
was not true in the South, and the South people
still picked and carted their own cotton to make the
inside or the batting of their quilt. So anyway, this
is just an example of how people took what they

(19:10):
had and may do, but.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Used it to make things better.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, I'm at the office and we've got professional development today.
I may work from home on Monday, so I may
not have an episode. But if I do, then I
may try to make one on Sunday if I go
work out.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Talk to you soon.
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