September 2, 2024 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good hearing, Friends and the sanctum. It's ss Llaman, your host, William.
We have an expert on murder here tonight. He has
a rather strange idea, something about everybody being a potential
murderer and law. Perhaps he's right. Perhaps one of us here,
(00:29):
right in this room is capable of committing a murder.
Take a good look at your neighbor. Maybe he's the one.
Or to the maybe it's you here by Hymon Brown
Things here one of Broadways in Hollywood's best known stars,
(00:50):
Boys Karloff, The Whole Hearing and the Smash Broadway head
Off make an old lace tonight. Mister Karloff appears as
Herbert Large in the study for Murder And There is
No Radio Drama by Sigma Miller. Uh uh uh.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
One of the selves but death out stands a man
holding tightly under the barge, a day's expression on his
young face. It's alive and precious minutes moved strictly away.
Certn't of death. Charge closer, it's only a few hours
before his execution. Set only still me, sir for six.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
For a moment the day's expression on that which space
changed to fright. Hello Sam, Hello my name's herd at Large?
Are you from the governor noose shamba? I'm just a psychologist. Oh,
my work is to try to keep other people from
(01:51):
doing the thing that you did.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You can help me by answering a few questions.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's not gonna do me any good.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
No, but you couldn't least help other people from making
the same mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I've gotta get out of you him.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I wanna live. I don't wanna die.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You were never convicted of her crime before? Where you said?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Well, no, I never even got a traffic chicken. I
never harmed anyone in my life until that terrible night.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You'll believe me, don't you worry? Of course?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
I didn't please with much.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Please you sedulous psychologists. Can't you do something for me?
Can't you say out insane or something?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No, it's sad, my car, you're not insane.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
But I I never meant to kill her. My hands
went for her ports if they weren't my hands.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
It's so hard to believe Lee, who never.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Even had a fist fighter they had eat into it.
You didn't even hate your wife, did you say?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, I didn't hate her. She used to get on
my nerves. We used to fight a lot about money,
but I never hated her. She with spending more money
than I heard.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
She got you angry.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She ridiculed your small urning. That's say, how did you know?
And she did that every time you had an argument
about money. Yes, I couldn't stand it anymore. I know
she didn't really mean up telling you that I.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Didn't work hard enough.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But when she told me that last time, I don't
know my My hands.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Went for her throat.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You didn't feel you didn't feel any any kind of
pity for her. I don't wanna talk anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Please praise very very long.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Like I stared at.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This one question. It's very important. You saw her stare
them the floor.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What were you all yet?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
For a minute, I was glad. Then suddenly I realized
what I'd done, and I got scared. I tried to
arrive her, tried to bring her back to life. You
talked to her, didn't you. I don't remember much after that.
You feel full of remorse? Now, No, I don't.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I hate you.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I hate everybody. Get out, Get off the pot to
your tongue.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't mind you here.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I I can't tell all right?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Then very much? But then I have trouble taking him
to the chair. But to make any difference Warden the
floor be over in two hours makes a great difference.
We don't want edwards last few minutes to be agonizing terror.
He was quite calm until you spoke to him.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
No one has ever reconciled a dead He's last a
few minutes to really of no importance.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
If I have a cold blood of you, mister Lange,
perhaps it is. I'd imagine you'd be just the sensible.
I'd prefer the thing that all murderers are sickness, and
we should be treated as Sironah. Then perhaps we are
not so far off from each other in our thinking.
I'm trying to understand the disease of murder, a disease
that all of us have, every one of it. You
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probably know that with at more than two thirds of
all murders.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Are committed by what we call the average.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Citizens, the most harm. This law abiding man is capable
of murder under certain circumstance. I I'd like to observe
the execution. Well, I'm afraid I can't let.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
You do m Why not?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I I don't understand you're taking a dislike to me
certainly I can do no harm.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And you can do no good, but satisfy a more bituriosity.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
I really believe you'd enjoy watching a man being put
to death.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And I don't like you, mister Lodge. You wanna take
a good look at poor Edwards. I'm saying to yourself, well,
but when I go, I good night, sir.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, Margaret Edwards is not paid with his life.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I know it's gives a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Of valuable information out of him before he went to pieces.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Maybe maybe you ought to take away, stop working on
your book so far and vacation would do.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You good if you're not worried about me, are you, Margaret?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
But no good can come of it at the risk
you're going.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But the only thing on your mind is.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It is mingled.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You don't understand I. I've got to know. I've got
to know more about thee but the desire to kill.
All of us are capable of murder, and knowing that
that even I can commit murder feels me with a
horrible I say, you don't know what you're saying any
of it. I got to be explore the whole field
of crime, cut out every detail it needs to murder
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everyone I need is a subject for study, and I
myself and my whole best subject. I've never felt so
teen about anything in my life. I can't fos now,
I he you sillow it? Well, yes, perhaps I am.
But you can't write about fire unless you've been burned.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Oh, please give it up. I don't write the underworld
people you've been associating.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
With you mean white. Yes, I can't stand him. H
I'm sorry, but I'm never to see him again.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
To night.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
To take me a long time, but.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I finally succeeded in forming a tribe of my own.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
The tribe, what are you talking about? It's the underworld
terms for gang. Why you're out of your mind. You'll
become a gagskin holy temporary. But there's some the brains
of the mob.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I'm going to see.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Crime and murder from the first world. We don't come
up for me none. Some racket here his tennant. Oh,
accolutely forbid you to do it. Oh he's happy.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I've made up my mind. Don't waste your time trying
to stop me.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Margaret, I uh.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't want to be unpleasant with you.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Uh all right?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
He make the cut in on cannon Ball jetry, his racket.
He's had it too long already. It's about trying. It's
taken away from him.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Cannonball is funny, tough, so if he gets white, he's
gonna go gnering for us. I wouldn't like to be
in front of his champers when he's lands. You don't
have to worry about him. Uh well, you ain't singh when.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
He saw I never will. We'll get him before he
knows what's happened to me. He's gonna fly us. That's right.
He's sure to kind of tall order. He's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It for you.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You are wise here.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Oh yeah, I you gonna get him here, and that's
very easy.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
He's coming here. Come yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I stipped him off, said, then you mob. He's gonna
come in on him. But they didn't find out my name,
and he addresses his room.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He ought to be here. In a minute.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You and Johnny are to meet him outside. He be
coming up with the lieutenant right into a trump. If
I want cannon Ball carry it brought to me alive.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't care what happens to the tricker man. And
ain't gonna be an easy job. But you're not afraid
are you wise here? How you gonna find nobody? But
I've been strictly a sticker party. He never had a
no more of a guy before. I'm gonna take a
couple of the boys with you. You won't have too
much trouble and hurry.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Up, I like candip on inside? What goes on here?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What take care of? Bose wants to sing you kiddy?
Oh you must be a terrible cannon. But Jerry you
nicept you ever come digit to me?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Oh? Are you?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I ain't never seen you, befoart.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I'm the man you were going to take care of
except at the table to turn well?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
To take a man by the I hadn't slung him.
Tell he's outside.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Don't spot duty, it's any Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Jerry Stiles, show up? Pee Judy. You kills a lot
of people in your life, haven't.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I haven't got no people with you? But didn't you come?
He or to kill me? No, I wasn't coming to
see you. I never seen you before.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You're not gonna pump me?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And sorry that it points you candy. I'm not going
to leave here, and I why wasn't gonna care?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I was gonna gonna scare you.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You gotta believe me.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Please let me go ahead up about you?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Where running through the time?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Breaking down? Complete? Let me go?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Why leave the city? Oh you never come back to
corn alright, you'll leave the city and you'll never come
back and that. But shall I then and have it?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Now?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You know if you tend to waste time, you won't. Second,
we'll give cabin ball a trumps to compose and stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You ain't gonna get away with it.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You'll be following me. You ain't gonna get away with it.
Here you are white. They use this silencer. Go ahead, no, no, no?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Shoot?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh okay, boy, I mean better get a hurt. It
is this the first man you've killed? H yeah, that's
my first.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
How do you feel.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
If thentet a man's life?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
White? Uh?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It makes you feel powerful to be able to lock
off thirty years of someone's life in a second.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
M A old I can't Oh right, Oh.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Right's a bit upset.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But tomorrow we move in on Jerry's business.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I meant we'll go home. I hope you'll sleep well
as well as I will.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
H a few hours later now miss small hours of
the morning, while I'll just sleep talking in his bed.
See here's a Felida voice. Oh, mister mar huh, who
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who is there?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
It's me Sam sad Son. I would.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
H how did you get here? You know you're dead?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Yes, I'm dead, But I came back. I sat. Maybe
you wanted I be a few.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
More questions you you came back. Oh, it can't be.
I must be dreaming. I came back to tell you
I was sorry about going to pieces. I was scared then,
but I'm not scared anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Dead people under praise.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Uh h, I'm nothing to ansk youre anymore. You told
me everything's wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I didn't answer your last question.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You asked me if I was four of them?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Are mm you? You wouldn't have to answer that. I
knew who more said in to me? Like I said,
it was unbouable.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I couldn't stand it. It called me crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It made me hate myself.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I just can't describe how it something I well, I
just said about covers everything and else was not to watch.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I was going to tell you about my last few minutes. Ah,
I don't wonder young anymore. You know almos to watch?
I was thinking, if you wanna find out how it's
be used to kill someone.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
The best way used to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Do eat myself.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And I know mother, I wasn't the murderer either until
the first time.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm no weak man.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
But you're the strong one.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You didn't joy it. You'll cut your fork by No. No,
I'll never kill anybody.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
You never can tell murderer.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It doesn't make experience. You can never as get really
so easy I act.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You won't have to ask a questions. You're all all
about it yourself. You've got to do it with your
own adds at all.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I had, I as with your own. He be we
don't this good?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah? He did everything, got too much money. Oh there, well,
uh room, uh, dreaming.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And having a mount man.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I'll say you where they kept talking asleep? Up you
go sleep. He took the TI. I never tell anybody
at us. I never talked in this street performance. Been
a very dream. So they he's got to stop this
horg or he sat off, you know, he jumped along
and how to get a nervous great dower or actually
(15:21):
he killed someone. Let see hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But I'm the flight of none of y'all are pair, Margaret,
I please the perform him up the window see I'm
not going to sell him at once.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
You can take the deeper and deeper and.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
This walk in deep move me.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
We tied.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Y ms going man wending this will. I'm waiting for Johnny.
We got a few more customers a visit. I never
mind about Johnny. Hm, I'll go with you. I'd like
to see some of our trying. How carry you shoot
yourself for and just stay at glat I kind of
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taking trouble from him? Uh huh, what's the matter with him?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I ain't spend things from about losing business that he
can't keep up with the pains for protection.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
And ever see faster today.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Come on, we'll go into jail. Follow Pietro out of business.
It's it's your guys again for what's fanether Petro.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Aren't you glad to see you?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
No, no, I'm glad to see your cony carefld Petro. Careful,
you'll find yourself starting.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Up at the ceilings.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Now, hand over that money. I I ain't doing no
business today. Hey, you guys, you gonna make me a
lot of business. Nice same pin down now, mister Petrow.
Surely your life.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Is a little more valuable than the payment behavior for money.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hand over the money. Yeah, I'm God, like God, it's
your learning dollars I have. I'll teach you a lesson.
You won't forget all.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
We want to full 'em out.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Hey, I ain't got it all you You got it
over yourself, all right, all right, but we got tomorrow it.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Why they they won't come out with your bought you
almost crook.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Him And when I had to comps down, I'm a shore.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
D I could have killed him easily. I wanted to
can wanted them beat his colly. I ain't shouldn't not
tell you ain't the paint and if it'd hand it,
I don't think they Tart's going to give us any
more trouble. And if he dies, I'll be only too
glad to see him again. To good what happened now?
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It ain't happened to me. He's not to say you
didn't the thing I told you.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
It's nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I stopped bothering more.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
But you're in trouble.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Please tell me, maybe I can help. There's nothing that
you could do. I told you before. I don't want
you to bother me.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
I don't know what come over you. It's just impossible
to talk to you late.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Then you you act as if you're ski. I don't
like you standing around scaring him. Ever since you got
involved with those games, did you begin to.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Act tipe on?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I want your Margaret. Doesn't make things any worse than
they are.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Who you become a criminal?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You think i'd want an act tipe On? Take quiet?
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Don't keep quiet. You've made the life unbearable for me.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You treat me that if I were just in your way.
I I didn't recognize you anymore. You become a hood
of 'em.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
He's just us hoos of 'em.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But I well, I you gonna ask? Oh, oh, now,
get I get out before I lose white temper completely
even no better than the worst of your gang. You
don't what they're doing anymore. You can want all while.
I don't hear that tilly nigga boy up yours anymore.
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I'll never hear it again.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, you keep quiet, Oh, Mardie Margeris, she's just unconscious
(19:11):
and so unconscious. Get up, Madery time.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I didn't mean it to you, You know I didn't
be any time.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But just since betag of for a minute, say you
forgive me, Please talk to me.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I don't you a to saw it?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I tried to revive her too, bring up that the
life son.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
One I style it. I couldn't stop myself.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I hoped to do I said, oh huh, which couldn't
help myself.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I had sunk for her thoult I I so was
my half.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yes, yes, that's it.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I didn't hate her. She got a line.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Now that's funny. I didn't joy didn't turn not a kidder.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
A kill, A kill any use for?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Is there anything I can do for your lodge? Have
you heard anything from the copy down? No?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I haven't done.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm really going to die in two hours. Let it
be stopped into the chair. I'm sorry, ludge. There's nothing
I can do jump cut and at carbon boards. You
will never learn from poor Edwards. I don't get a
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mane to do. Very few murders are committed and call
blogs so you're not. But like did uh the drive?
I'm getting to the chair. I'm never glad to see
anyone go.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Hi that don you uh?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know often we do.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
He wanted to die.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I didn't expect the man like you to go to
peace and good one don't want to do what all
who love large. You'll run no little too much about murder. Uhh,
that's alive. You're sure did learn too much about matter.
(21:36):
You should have run the county town when angry. But anyway,
I'm sure Large will never do it again. That til
next book he's gone to right well be called what
Happens After Your First Murder on My First thousand Years
in the Grave, as soon as it's published, the Large
to go one lecture toy I don't take a chance
(21:57):
to hear. And he's very expascinating in her her pulses,
sort of way that you're getting become any sanctum. I'm
ma sure we're still be on the air at that time.
The Presency h the time you come to closed the
squeaking door until next week
Good hearing, Friends and the sanctum. It's ss Llaman, your host, William.
We have an expert on murder here tonight. He has
a rather strange idea, something about everybody being a potential
murderer and law. Perhaps he's right. Perhaps one of us here,
(00:29):
right in this room is capable of committing a murder.
Take a good look at your neighbor. Maybe he's the one.
Or to the maybe it's you here by Hymon Brown
Things here one of Broadways in Hollywood's best known stars,
(00:50):
Boys Karloff, The Whole Hearing and the Smash Broadway head
Off make an old lace tonight. Mister Karloff appears as
Herbert Large in the study for Murder And There is
No Radio Drama by Sigma Miller. Uh uh uh.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
One of the selves but death out stands a man
holding tightly under the barge, a day's expression on his
young face. It's alive and precious minutes moved strictly away.
Certn't of death. Charge closer, it's only a few hours
before his execution. Set only still me, sir for six.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
For a moment the day's expression on that which space
changed to fright. Hello Sam, Hello my name's herd at Large?
Are you from the governor noose shamba? I'm just a psychologist. Oh,
my work is to try to keep other people from
(01:51):
doing the thing that you did.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You can help me by answering a few questions.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's not gonna do me any good.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
No, but you couldn't least help other people from making
the same mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I've gotta get out of you him.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I wanna live. I don't wanna die.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You were never convicted of her crime before? Where you said?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Well, no, I never even got a traffic chicken. I
never harmed anyone in my life until that terrible night.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You'll believe me, don't you worry? Of course?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
I didn't please with much.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Please you sedulous psychologists. Can't you do something for me?
Can't you say out insane or something?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No, it's sad, my car, you're not insane.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
But I I never meant to kill her. My hands
went for her ports if they weren't my hands.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
It's so hard to believe Lee, who never.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Even had a fist fighter they had eat into it.
You didn't even hate your wife, did you say?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, I didn't hate her. She used to get on
my nerves. We used to fight a lot about money,
but I never hated her. She with spending more money
than I heard.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
She got you angry.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She ridiculed your small urning. That's say, how did you know?
And she did that every time you had an argument
about money. Yes, I couldn't stand it anymore. I know
she didn't really mean up telling you that I.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Didn't work hard enough.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But when she told me that last time, I don't
know my My hands.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Went for her throat.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You didn't feel you didn't feel any any kind of
pity for her. I don't wanna talk anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Please praise very very long.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Like I stared at.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This one question. It's very important. You saw her stare
them the floor.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
What were you all yet?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
For a minute, I was glad. Then suddenly I realized
what I'd done, and I got scared. I tried to
arrive her, tried to bring her back to life. You
talked to her, didn't you. I don't remember much after that.
You feel full of remorse? Now, No, I don't.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I hate you.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I hate everybody. Get out, Get off the pot to
your tongue.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't mind you here.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I I can't tell all right?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Then very much? But then I have trouble taking him
to the chair. But to make any difference Warden the
floor be over in two hours makes a great difference.
We don't want edwards last few minutes to be agonizing terror.
He was quite calm until you spoke to him.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
No one has ever reconciled a dead He's last a
few minutes to really of no importance.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
If I have a cold blood of you, mister Lange,
perhaps it is. I'd imagine you'd be just the sensible.
I'd prefer the thing that all murderers are sickness, and
we should be treated as Sironah. Then perhaps we are
not so far off from each other in our thinking.
I'm trying to understand the disease of murder, a disease
that all of us have, every one of it. You
(05:13):
probably know that with at more than two thirds of
all murders.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Are committed by what we call the average.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Citizens, the most harm. This law abiding man is capable
of murder under certain circumstance. I I'd like to observe
the execution. Well, I'm afraid I can't let.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
You do m Why not?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I I don't understand you're taking a dislike to me
certainly I can do no harm.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And you can do no good, but satisfy a more bituriosity.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
I really believe you'd enjoy watching a man being put
to death.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And I don't like you, mister Lodge. You wanna take
a good look at poor Edwards. I'm saying to yourself, well,
but when I go, I good night, sir.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, Margaret Edwards is not paid with his life.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I know it's gives a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Of valuable information out of him before he went to pieces.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Maybe maybe you ought to take away, stop working on
your book so far and vacation would do.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You good if you're not worried about me, are you, Margaret?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
But no good can come of it at the risk
you're going.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But the only thing on your mind is.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It is mingled.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You don't understand I. I've got to know. I've got
to know more about thee but the desire to kill.
All of us are capable of murder, and knowing that
that even I can commit murder feels me with a
horrible I say, you don't know what you're saying any
of it. I got to be explore the whole field
of crime, cut out every detail it needs to murder
(07:06):
everyone I need is a subject for study, and I
myself and my whole best subject. I've never felt so
teen about anything in my life. I can't fos now,
I he you sillow it? Well, yes, perhaps I am.
But you can't write about fire unless you've been burned.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Oh, please give it up. I don't write the underworld
people you've been associating.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
With you mean white. Yes, I can't stand him. H
I'm sorry, but I'm never to see him again.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
To night.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
To take me a long time, but.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I finally succeeded in forming a tribe of my own.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
The tribe, what are you talking about? It's the underworld
terms for gang. Why you're out of your mind. You'll
become a gagskin holy temporary. But there's some the brains
of the mob.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I'm going to see.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Crime and murder from the first world. We don't come
up for me none. Some racket here his tennant. Oh,
accolutely forbid you to do it. Oh he's happy.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I've made up my mind. Don't waste your time trying
to stop me.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Margaret, I uh.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't want to be unpleasant with you.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Uh all right?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
He make the cut in on cannon Ball jetry, his racket.
He's had it too long already. It's about trying. It's
taken away from him.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Cannonball is funny, tough, so if he gets white, he's
gonna go gnering for us. I wouldn't like to be
in front of his champers when he's lands. You don't
have to worry about him. Uh well, you ain't singh when.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
He saw I never will. We'll get him before he
knows what's happened to me. He's gonna fly us. That's right.
He's sure to kind of tall order. He's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It for you.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You are wise here.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Oh yeah, I you gonna get him here, and that's
very easy.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
He's coming here. Come yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I stipped him off, said, then you mob. He's gonna
come in on him. But they didn't find out my name,
and he addresses his room.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He ought to be here. In a minute.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You and Johnny are to meet him outside. He be
coming up with the lieutenant right into a trump. If
I want cannon Ball carry it brought to me alive.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't care what happens to the tricker man. And
ain't gonna be an easy job. But you're not afraid
are you wise here? How you gonna find nobody? But
I've been strictly a sticker party. He never had a
no more of a guy before. I'm gonna take a
couple of the boys with you. You won't have too
much trouble and hurry.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Up, I like candip on inside? What goes on here?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What take care of? Bose wants to sing you kiddy?
Oh you must be a terrible cannon. But Jerry you
nicept you ever come digit to me?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Oh? Are you?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I ain't never seen you, befoart.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I'm the man you were going to take care of
except at the table to turn well?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
To take a man by the I hadn't slung him.
Tell he's outside.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Don't spot duty, it's any Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Jerry Stiles, show up? Pee Judy. You kills a lot
of people in your life, haven't.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I haven't got no people with you? But didn't you come?
He or to kill me? No, I wasn't coming to
see you. I never seen you before.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You're not gonna pump me?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And sorry that it points you candy. I'm not going
to leave here, and I why wasn't gonna care?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I was gonna gonna scare you.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You gotta believe me.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Please let me go ahead up about you?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Where running through the time?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Breaking down? Complete? Let me go?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Why leave the city? Oh you never come back to
corn alright, you'll leave the city and you'll never come
back and that. But shall I then and have it?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Now?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You know if you tend to waste time, you won't. Second,
we'll give cabin ball a trumps to compose and stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You ain't gonna get away with it.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You'll be following me. You ain't gonna get away with it.
Here you are white. They use this silencer. Go ahead, no, no, no?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Shoot?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh okay, boy, I mean better get a hurt. It
is this the first man you've killed? H yeah, that's
my first.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
How do you feel.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
If thentet a man's life?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
White? Uh?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It makes you feel powerful to be able to lock
off thirty years of someone's life in a second.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
M A old I can't Oh right, Oh.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Right's a bit upset.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But tomorrow we move in on Jerry's business.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I meant we'll go home. I hope you'll sleep well
as well as I will.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
H a few hours later now miss small hours of
the morning, while I'll just sleep talking in his bed.
See here's a Felida voice. Oh, mister mar huh, who
(12:25):
who is there?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
It's me Sam sad Son. I would.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
H how did you get here? You know you're dead?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Yes, I'm dead, But I came back. I sat. Maybe
you wanted I be a few.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
More questions you you came back. Oh, it can't be.
I must be dreaming. I came back to tell you
I was sorry about going to pieces. I was scared then,
but I'm not scared anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Dead people under praise.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Uh h, I'm nothing to ansk youre anymore. You told
me everything's wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I didn't answer your last question.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You asked me if I was four of them?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Are mm you? You wouldn't have to answer that. I
knew who more said in to me? Like I said,
it was unbouable.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I couldn't stand it. It called me crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It made me hate myself.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I just can't describe how it something I well, I
just said about covers everything and else was not to watch.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I was going to tell you about my last few minutes. Ah,
I don't wonder young anymore. You know almos to watch?
I was thinking, if you wanna find out how it's
be used to kill someone.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
The best way used to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Do eat myself.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And I know mother, I wasn't the murderer either until
the first time.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm no weak man.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
But you're the strong one.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You didn't joy it. You'll cut your fork by No. No,
I'll never kill anybody.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
You never can tell murderer.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It doesn't make experience. You can never as get really
so easy I act.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You won't have to ask a questions. You're all all
about it yourself. You've got to do it with your
own adds at all.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I had, I as with your own. He be we
don't this good?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah? He did everything, got too much money. Oh there, well,
uh room, uh, dreaming.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And having a mount man.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I'll say you where they kept talking asleep? Up you
go sleep. He took the TI. I never tell anybody
at us. I never talked in this street performance. Been
a very dream. So they he's got to stop this
horg or he sat off, you know, he jumped along
and how to get a nervous great dower or actually
(15:21):
he killed someone. Let see hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But I'm the flight of none of y'all are pair, Margaret,
I please the perform him up the window see I'm
not going to sell him at once.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
You can take the deeper and deeper and.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
This walk in deep move me.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
We tied.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Y ms going man wending this will. I'm waiting for Johnny.
We got a few more customers a visit. I never
mind about Johnny. Hm, I'll go with you. I'd like
to see some of our trying. How carry you shoot
yourself for and just stay at glat I kind of
(16:01):
taking trouble from him? Uh huh, what's the matter with him?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I ain't spend things from about losing business that he
can't keep up with the pains for protection.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
And ever see faster today.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Come on, we'll go into jail. Follow Pietro out of business.
It's it's your guys again for what's fanether Petro.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Aren't you glad to see you?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
No, no, I'm glad to see your cony carefld Petro. Careful,
you'll find yourself starting.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Up at the ceilings.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Now, hand over that money. I I ain't doing no
business today. Hey, you guys, you gonna make me a
lot of business. Nice same pin down now, mister Petrow.
Surely your life.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Is a little more valuable than the payment behavior for money.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hand over the money. Yeah, I'm God, like God, it's
your learning dollars I have. I'll teach you a lesson.
You won't forget all.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
We want to full 'em out.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Hey, I ain't got it all you You got it
over yourself, all right, all right, but we got tomorrow it.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Why they they won't come out with your bought you
almost crook.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Him And when I had to comps down, I'm a shore.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
D I could have killed him easily. I wanted to
can wanted them beat his colly. I ain't shouldn't not
tell you ain't the paint and if it'd hand it,
I don't think they Tart's going to give us any
more trouble. And if he dies, I'll be only too
glad to see him again. To good what happened now?
(17:44):
It ain't happened to me. He's not to say you
didn't the thing I told you.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
It's nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I stopped bothering more.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
But you're in trouble.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Please tell me, maybe I can help. There's nothing that
you could do. I told you before. I don't want
you to bother me.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
I don't know what come over you. It's just impossible
to talk to you late.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Then you you act as if you're ski. I don't
like you standing around scaring him. Ever since you got
involved with those games, did you begin to.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Act tipe on?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I want your Margaret. Doesn't make things any worse than
they are.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Who you become a criminal?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
You think i'd want an act tipe On? Take quiet?
Speaker 7 (18:13):
Don't keep quiet. You've made the life unbearable for me.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You treat me that if I were just in your way.
I I didn't recognize you anymore. You become a hood
of 'em.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
He's just us hoos of 'em.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But I well, I you gonna ask? Oh, oh, now,
get I get out before I lose white temper completely
even no better than the worst of your gang. You
don't what they're doing anymore. You can want all while.
I don't hear that tilly nigga boy up yours anymore.
(18:46):
I'll never hear it again.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, you keep quiet, Oh, Mardie Margeris, she's just unconscious
(19:11):
and so unconscious. Get up, Madery time.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I didn't mean it to you, You know I didn't
be any time.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But just since betag of for a minute, say you
forgive me, Please talk to me.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I don't you a to saw it?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I tried to revive her too, bring up that the
life son.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
One I style it. I couldn't stop myself.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I hoped to do I said, oh huh, which couldn't
help myself.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I had sunk for her thoult I I so was
my half.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Yes, yes, that's it.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I didn't hate her. She got a line.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Now that's funny. I didn't joy didn't turn not a kidder.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
A kill, A kill any use for?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Is there anything I can do for your lodge? Have
you heard anything from the copy down? No?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I haven't done.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm really going to die in two hours. Let it
be stopped into the chair. I'm sorry, ludge. There's nothing
I can do jump cut and at carbon boards. You
will never learn from poor Edwards. I don't get a
(20:55):
mane to do. Very few murders are committed and call
blogs so you're not. But like did uh the drive?
I'm getting to the chair. I'm never glad to see
anyone go.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Hi that don you uh?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know often we do.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
He wanted to die.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I didn't expect the man like you to go to
peace and good one don't want to do what all
who love large. You'll run no little too much about murder. Uhh,
that's alive. You're sure did learn too much about matter.
(21:36):
You should have run the county town when angry. But anyway,
I'm sure Large will never do it again. That til
next book he's gone to right well be called what
Happens After Your First Murder on My First thousand Years
in the Grave, as soon as it's published, the Large
to go one lecture toy I don't take a chance
(21:57):
to hear. And he's very expascinating in her her pulses,
sort of way that you're getting become any sanctum. I'm
ma sure we're still be on the air at that time.
The Presency h the time you come to closed the
squeaking door until next week
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