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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we're going into a
really harrowing case from Alexandria, Egypt. It's a story about
a psychological trap, basically where the lines between who's the
victim and who's the perpetrator get incredibly blurred.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, so blurred that even the investigators had trouble figuring
it out exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It centers on a man named Amber. He was this quiet,
successful computer tech but just completely lacked any kind of
worldly experience that made him so so vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He basically walked straight into what the authorities called a
scorpion's nest.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That phrase scorpions nest, it really hits home, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It does. It implies a sort of unified venomous thing.
And this isn't just a domestic dispute on wrong. It's
more a study of like love, addiction, financial predation, and
how fast a sheltered life can just fall apart when
faced with calculated deception. Okay, our mission here is to
look past the initial horror and really dig into the specific,
deliberate psychological tactics used against Amber, the things that made
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what happened in the end almost inevitable.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Right, So let's unpack this. We're not starting at the beginning, though,
We're jumped right into the aftermath, the moment of discovery.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Three days after the crime, inside this newly rented apartment
in Alexandria, supposedly clean, fresh start.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, imagine the scene. The air in that flat was
just thick, heavy. There was this growing stench. You just
couldn't ignore it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Think about those sensory details. A brand new place, right,
a chance to reset, or so Mr believed. But within
what seventy two hours, this foul, really putrid smell starts
taking over. And it wasn't like old garbage or you know,
bad plumbing. It was something organic, something deeply wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And the person sleeping right near the source. For three nights,
his wife Aya completely oblivious, apparently.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Sleeping right through it, until she couldn't take the smell anymore.
She starts looking around, trying to find where it's coming.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
From, and it leads her not to the kitchen or
the bathroom, but right into their bed.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
The scene she finds is just it's chilling, but also
kind of pathetic and how amateurish the attempt was to
hide it. She finds this package, tightly bound, really heavy
wrapped first a sheet, then a blanket, and secured not
just with rope, but with tons and tons of adhesive tape,
like industrial tape, applied almost frantically.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow, So whoever did this wasn't just trying to hide something.
They were trying to like seal it away.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Erase it exactly with sheer force almost And when she
looks closer, well, the package reveals the truth. Human remains.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh my god, and it was her father's body, her father.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
She immediately goes to the police station. It's like one am.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The police arrive, forensics comes in. What do they make
of it?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, the analysis gives them a pretty strong early clue.
The extreme, almost clumsy effort to conceal the body of
all that wrapping, hiding it under the bed. It didn't
scream hardened.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Criminal, No, what did it suggests.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Profound panic, an emotional break, someone completely overwhelm by what
they'd done. The investigation quickly points to the new tenant,
Am Tamar. They knew about the ongoing really vicious fights
he'd been having with Ayes family.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So finding the killer was, I guess straightforward.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The who was clear pretty fast, but the why that
was way more complicated than just simple anger, that clumsy concealment.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It really points away from some kind of professional criminal
and straight towards a man just panicking completely.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But to grasp the sheer psychological collapse that led to
this act, we need to go back six months earlier.
We need to look at Emer's life before all this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay, let's do that. Tell us about ammers.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You really have to understand his background. Raised in Alexandria,
respectable family, very devout, extremely close to his mother. She
was his biggest supporter, always buying him the latest, you know,
expensive gear for his work.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And he was good at his job.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Brilliant an electronics repair technician. People ask for him my name.
He earned good money, very good money.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But there was that term you mentioned, calm raw, unseasoned exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It means he had almost zero life experience outside his job,
especially and this is key in relationships. He was just
totally innocent, like untouched by the world's.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Darker side, the perfect target basically.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Sadly, yes, a perfect piece of untouched prey. And that innocence,
that rawness, that's what drew Aya in.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So how did they meet?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
His whole world flipped the day he was doing a
job at a major hotel. Ayah work there as a
room service attendant, and their first meeting, the way they
each saw it tells you everything. Ahso, for Ahmer, who
had like zero romantic history, he sees her watching him,
and boom instant love at first sight. He literally rushes home, ecstatic,
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telling his mother he's found his soulmate.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh bless him. And Aya Eye's.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
View purely transactional. She saw a naive guy, obviously doing
well financially and most importantly, completely calm, innocent, easily manipulated.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Not a person but an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Walking bank account essentially, and a naive one at that.
The relationship that followed was just pure calculation on her part.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He proposed quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Instantly, and she agreed immediately, made him feel like finding
him was her life dreams, fed right into his fantasy.
She gave him address for a family visit like within
the week.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Wow, that was fast. So he takes his mother to
meet the family.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
He does, and his mother right away felt deptly uncomfortable,
she said later. The parents just seemed unsettling, untrustworthy.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That parental gut feeling. You hear about that so often
in these cases.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Absolutely, she kept quiet during the visit, but as soon
as they left, she told Emmer straight up she was
totally against the marriage. She was certain in the family
was bad news.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And how did Emmer react? This is the first big test,
isn't it? It is?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And it's the first major crack in his connection to safety.
For the first time ever, he defies his mother, accuses
her of trying to stop his happiness. I oh no,
and Aya, she must have sensed her control slipping, or
maybe heard about the mother's reaction, because she immediately called
Amor demanded to see him right then, and he went left.
His mother went straight to Aya, and she just pulled
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him right back in, used all our experience in well
handling men to regain complete control.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, they got married within a month.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Found a rental apartment quickly. And here's another one of
those huge red flags that got ignored. Aya's family demanded nothing,
no furniture, no dowry, nothing, Really, what do they want?
Only that Amor secure the place to live, the physical residence.
That was the only thing that mattered, securing the asset base.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Basically, Okay, so they're married, they had the apartment. How
long before things started to unravel?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Not long at all, early twenty thirteen, maybe a month.
In Shock number one, Emma finds out Iya's parents are
actually separated, but they still live together.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Weird but maybe explainable maybe, But.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
He also noticed Iya's mother was the one calling all
the shots, especially with money. The father he seemed like
a ghost, no say in anything. It was this strange,
unified front focused entirely on Amatar. Their daughter's knew.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well asset okay unsettling. What was shock number two?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
This one was huge, potentially catastrophic for Amer given his background.
He finds out Aya's mother has a criminal record for
what a conviction related to vice or morality crimes, an
ad ab charge they call it. There For someone from
Amor's devout conservative family, that's like a cultural earthquake.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And did he confront Aya tell his own mother?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
He confronted Aya. Her explanation simply that her mother had repented,
and Ahmer, completely hooked on this idea of love, just
buried it, kept it secret from his own family.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's key, isn't it. Keeping secrets cuts him.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Off, absolutely cuts them off from anyone who might help him.
See clearly makes him even more dependent on Aya and
then the family starts pushing boundaries, testing him. The mother
shows up, wants to stay for a couple of days. Okay, fine,
but she brings her current husband, an unregistered roofy marriage ummer.
Swallowing his discomfort, welcomes them.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, awkward but maybe manageable.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But then a week later she comes back with the
different unregistered husband.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What no, that's too much.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That was the line for Arooner. He finally lost it.
Confronted Aya, demanded she stop her mother bringing strange men
into their home, and Aya's response classic manipulation. I can't
control my mother.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I initially refused to accept it, but then Aya used, well,
the sources say, certain methods we can, and it involved
emotional pressure, maybe intimacy, things that always got him to
back down, overrode his own judgment.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He was stuck in this loop.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Completely locked in, and this is where something else comes out,
something really sinister. Looking back, our revealed Iyah was constantly
pressuring him to take stimulants, yeah, medications, to perform stronger sexually.
Why just performance anxiety?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He thought so at the time, but later it became
clear it was leverage, a weapon beam planted. Meanwhile, his
money just draining away to Aya, her mother, even her father,
who just show up randomly to collect cash.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So the pressure's building, financial drain. Bizarrely, behavior the medication pressure.
What happens to Aymer?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
His work starts suffering. He's anxious all the time. He
notices Iyahs always late home, ignoring calls from unknown numbers.
He starts suspecting things.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Does he investigate Quietly?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He goes back to the hotel where they met, pretends
he's not married to her, just asks a former colleague
about her subtly, wow, and the truth comes out devastating.
The colleague tells him Aya, using her room service job,
was having relationships with people in the hotel.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh man, that must have crushed him.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
He didn't want to believe it, but the seed was planted.
He started watching her more closely, and then he caught
her meeting a man at a cafe.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Confrontedor then and there no.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He waited till she got home, and when she did,
she lied boldly said the man was just helping her
find a job, trying to protect her from harassment or something.
He finally lost control. He slapped her. The sources say
it was the only time he ever got physical.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What was the fallout from.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That immediate and highly organized by the family. Emmer maybe
desperately called Aya's mother to report her daughter's behavior the
lying the meeting. Within an hour, both mother and father
are at the door to support Amer no way unified
front instantly blaming Emmer for hitting their daughter, ignoring everything.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Else, of course, and the fight got loud.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So loud the landlord got involved, heard the shouting the insults.
He told Emmer the apartment was suspicious, hinting he knew
something about the family's reputation, and demanded they move out
immediately or chaos. But Aya's family saw an opportunity. They
knew the landlord had connections could cause trouble, so they
manipulated Emmer again, convinced him they had to move quickly
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to another apartment in the same area to avoid police involvement.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It sounds like a setup, it absolutely was.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
While Omer rushed off to sign the lease for the
new place, the very place where the body would eventually
be found, Aya and her parents packed everything everything how
fast they moved within three hours, just gone into the
new apartment.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Did Amer's own mother get involved at this point?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Finally, yes, She learned the extent of the trouble. She
actually convinced Omor to officially divorce.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Iire Oh good, so he was free.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
For about two days. The addiction that psychological hold Aya
had it was just too strong. He relapsed. They got
back together, unofficially, moved back into that new apartment together.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Unbelievable. He just couldn't break free, couldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And when he tried to regain some control, tried to
focus on his work again, show some independence, Aya played
her trump card with drugs exactly. She threatened him, said
she'd report him to the police for taking the narcotics,
the stimulant she had pushed on him. The performance drugs
weren't about sex. They were blackmail material from day one, insurance.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That is chillingly calculated.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It guaranteed his silence, his compliance. He was completely trapped.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So what was the final trigger? How did it lead
to the father's death?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It happened while Amer was unpacking his work equipment after
that rushed move. Hidden among his own things, he found
two pieces of paper.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
What were they?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The ultimate proof the absolute betrayal? First, a divorce certificate
for Aya, dated before he even married her, meaning.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
She lied about never being married before.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Lied completely and guess who the witness on the certificate
was her father. No, and the second paper even worse,
a second marriage certificate for Aya dated after she married Ahmer.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
She married someone else while still married to him.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, we'll still with him, and the witness on that
one also her father.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The whole family was in on it from the.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Start, coordinated generational deception. He finally saw the full picture,
the depth of the setup he was in.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
What happened that he must have been reeling.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
He's standing there, papers in hand, probably just shattered, and
who walks in Aya's father?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Did the father see the papers?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He saw them, saw them right there in Armour's hand,
and completely ignored them, didn't even acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
What what did he do?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Instead started berating a mirror, yelling at him for not
enough money on them. And then then he viciously insulted
Emmer's mother.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh, that was the final straw.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
The insult to his mother, the only person who ever
genuinely cared, who tried to warn him. That broke something
in Emmer. He snapped, He shoved the father.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And the father reacted.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The father, who the sources mentioned was a criminal type himself,
pulled out a weapon a box cutter, a mash rat,
a razor sharp blade. So Emmer was threatened, terrified, enraged
all the abuse, the money, the lies, the blackmail, his
mother being insulted, now facing a weapon, he said later,
his life flashed before his eyes. He felt he had nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Left to lose, and he fought back.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
He decided in that moment he had to kill this man,
the man who represented the core of all his suffering.
He attacked the father, strangled him for hours until eleven
PM that night, when the father finally.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Died, My God, and then the wrapping.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Then he spent the next four hours until three am,
frantically wrapping the body, sheets, blanket all that tape before
hiding it under the bed they.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Shared, and Io just came back and slept there.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Here's the chilling part that shows the family's coldness. Ayah,
who was technically divorced from Armor, then came back to
the apartment and slept on that bed for three days,
never reported her father missing.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Why wouldn't she report him missing.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Because she likely knew exactly who is responsible and maybe
even why. It points to the depth of their calculation.
They knew Amor had snapped, and they just let it happen,
or were indifferent.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But you said earlier the police sympathized with Omor, Yeah,
recognized him as a victim too. How does that square
with the you know, the gruesomeness of hiding the body,
letting her sleep.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
There, that's the real paradox here, isn't it. The source
material strongly suggests the strangling itself was a result of
immediate panic, an emotional overload. The wrapping was desperate, clumsy,
not cold and methodical. Okay, But the long term calculation,
the financial drain, the blackmail using drugs, the complete disregard
for the father's life once Amor was pushed too far,
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that calculation seems to belong entirely to the family, not
to Amor in that moment of frenzy.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So, looking at the bigger picture, what does this case
really tell us?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's an extreme example of predatory behavior targeting profound naivety.
Emmer wasn't just a financial mark when he tried to
push back even slightly based on his own morality. They
engineered his complete collapse. They turned his dependency, his supposed
love for Aya into the weapon that destroyed him.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And it highlights the danger of ignoring those initial warnings.
Doesn't it like his mother's gut feeling.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Absolutely, it shows the tragic cost of ignoring not just
parental instinct, but also just fundamental incompatibilities and values in
life experience. Em Yer was like oil and water with
that scorpion's nest, and they exploited that difference until he shattered.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
The detail about the drugs. It wasn't just a side issue.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Not at all. That's one of the most critical takeaways.
Those drugs weren't about sexual performance or some relationship quirk.
They were a deliberately planted, long term tool, black mail
built right into the relationship to guarantee leverage later chillingly premeditated.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It really is a chilling story how someone's complete lack
of experience could make them so vulnerable to well engineered
psychological abuse.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right, the manipulation didn't just steal his money, It destroyed
his sense of self, his connection to reality. Long before
he ever laid hands on the father, he was psychologically
dismantled first.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So here's something for you, the listener, to think about
as we wrap up. Ammer confessed immediately. The police, to
some extent, saw him as a victim of this intense,
long term control, but he still committed murder.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He suffered a kind of psychological murder, you could argue,
but he inflicted a physical one.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Exactly So, how do we weigh that? How much responsibility
does the perpetrator bear when they themselves are simultaneously the
ultimate victim of such planned, escalating manipulation and control.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's a profound question, no easy answers, something to definitely
mull over until our next deep dive.