Crossroads Ep 5 - Family Takeover

In episode 5, the sibs are joined by their spouses and children as they all discuss how this entire process has impacted them. Enjoy and thanks for listening.

Host: J.R., Val, Tonia, Keisher

Episode Transcript

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H Welcome to the Crossroads podcast.But we tell our story of love lost,
forgiveness and family. I'm the littlebrother Jay Augument, joined is always
by my big little sisters, Val, Tanya and Keisha. How y'all doing,
what's going up? I'm good,I'm good. Now today we are

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joined by heavy special guests sprinkled allover the place. Uh, the entire
crew is here. We've got ourspouses and kids. We got everybody together.
Everybody say hello hello, since ofcourse nobody knows y'all's voices, let's

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go around the room and uh andand introduce everybody and yeah, let's fill
the room up with me. Ihave my wife lay Dean hi mm hmm
kah, all right, So shedon't know where she want to be if

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she want to be on my micor hers. So I'm trying to figure
out what we're doing. So shejust running around the room. But say
hello, lady, Hi. Butdaddy and my oldest son, Hello,

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Lincoln, my youngest son, Hello, he's so cool. Yeah, all
right, Val, introduce your familyabsolutely, so my husband Tommy, how
you doing? And my two children? Say your names Josh Tori? Right,

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all right, telling you introduce yourcrew absolutely joined by my husband Wayne.
All right, my daughter Dasia Hiand Daisha's son, my grandson,
our grandson Drew will say hi home, mommy. Keisha, introduce your crew.

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I have the biggest crew of themall. Hello. Everyone, This
is Keisha and her crew. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, It
is just that oh man. Yeah. So today we wanted to just get
everybody involved. And I know y'allhave heard everything that that we've you know,

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had to endure and and and shiftin our lives and welcome, but
it's only been from our perspective,if so, we felt that y'all might
want to hear from some from someother perspectives and get some other voices involved.
So we wrangled up everybody and theydecided that they were want to bless

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y'alls with their thoughts as well.So welcome to y'all. Thank y'all for
listening, you know, for everybodythat's been supporting the show so far.
You can find us on all yourfavorite podcast platforms. And we actually on
time. We are month after thelast episode, so we didn't keep y'all
waiting too long. And I hopey'all appreciate that, because we appreciate y'all.

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So we want to, uh,I want to run through some questions,
and everybody that's wants to speak upon it, feel free to jump
in and just give your thoughts onit. So first question, I'm just
gonna throw it out there in theroom. So every everybody that has been

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involved from the beginning, did youknow anything about the possibility of more family
or that you may have more auntuncles and cousins and your your parents had
or spouse had siblings out there thatthat you didn't know about. I got

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names. It's Daja, So Ididn't know that there was a possibility.
And so I think this is kindof leading into some other questions. But
I kind of felt a way whenI found out because I was an adult
with like kids, and I waslike why did I never know? Like
why did anybody ever say anything?So I remember like me and my dad

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having a side conversation. I waslike, Dad, did you know?
I was like many, but Ihad no idea. Okay, Okay,
that's a question. That's the samequestion. Yeah, the same question.
It's Josh And yeah, I didn'tknow either until pretty much it was confirmed.

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I guess you could say, soI believe me and Dansie were kind
of in the same boat and whenwhen it was that we did find out.
But I mean, at first itwas probably shocked and just like kind
of a loss for words, notreally knowing, you know, how things
would progress later on or going forward. But I'm glad we are going forward.

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I'm glad that, you know,we able to see each other and
you know, spend time with eachother and make up for that lost time.
Absolutely everybody else mm hmm. SoDaisiel, you said you you you
felt a certain kind of way.What was your first reaction when you were

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told about the confirmation. Oh,I don't like remember, because it was
it was more of a like nonchalantlike okay, I guess it was.
I don't remember my mom like tellingme, yeah, I don't like.

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I don't think I felt like excitedor nervous, Like it was just like
a okay, I don't yeah,I don't know. And Jay, I'll
just say it's probably indicative of howI felt, you know, because until
there was confirmation and an eye toeye that I put my eyes on a

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veil and I was like, there'sno way that I can continue to deny
or and I said before in podcasts, I didn't affirm or deny. It
was just like, okay, whatever, And that's probably how I came across.
And when I told my kids,it was okay, it's confirmation,
but it okay, and not reallyknowing how things are going to pay it
out? Right. Yeah, Sofor for this spouse, for Tommy Wayne

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Ladan, did y'all have a senseof need to protect your your spouses or
what were your thoughts when you whenyou first knew that there was a we
were for sure? M hmmm,uh you know, I mean, lady

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mm hmm. I didn't uh wait, go ahead, when you're gonna go
Yeah, I didn't. I didn'tsee, uh hm, I need to
protect and I knew would work outthe way it was supposed to and and

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and indeed work out in a greatway. It's just you had to let
people deal with stuff the way theydeal with it, and it all ropes
out, you know, and lookat it now. You know, so
a lot of times you have inputand and you say things and then it

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turned out to be totally different.So you kind of got to just that
thing, you know, take hisown boy, right, Okay, lad
can you guys hear me. Sofor me, I guess I want to
go back a little bit. Iwhen I found out, I was really

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kind of shocked excited. But Ifeel like I had the conversation with Keisha
before. It was like years,way before it was ever confirmed that there
was a possibility, and I Ithink hearing that the first time, with
the conversation I had with Keisha,that was already shocking enough, so when

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it was confirmed it wasn't. Itjust wasn't like shocking. It was like,
let me find out pop, youknow. But no, I didn't.
I didn't feel a need to protectat all. I was just really

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excited to meet the family, excitedto meet vow, excited to have a
niece and a nephew and another brotherin law, and I was just excited
for what was going to be created. I definitely didn't feel like a need
to protect at all. Jr.Pretty much manages his emotions in his way,

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so there wasn't anything that made mefeel like who are these people?
Like? It wasn't foreign, doyou know what I mean? And it
wasn't like, Okay, well thisis going to be a weird situation.
It was very much like from aplace of love. I think we all
really give a lot of love.So it was just more like, yes,

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more people, let's get it.That's all it really was for me.
Oh Tommy well, ship up Moundswas pretty tact. I felt like
I needed to make sure my wifeand my children didn't get hurt. Period.

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I didn't know nobody. We hada lot of losses. Our family,
it was going through aunts and uncles, was passed away. I had
met Keisha, I had met yourfather, her father, and we had
talked. I mean, the bigman had talked. I had met Keisha

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and then met Tanya. I've seenpictures of Tanya. Vow had showed me
pictures and stuff, and nobody wasreaching out and things was at stage fast.
It was just solid. I wasgood in my world. I felt
my family was good, and Ijust didn't want to hurt. I didn't
want her to reach out because Iknow how Valance Vow reaches out and she's

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loving, she's sweet and kind.My kids they'll go right along with her
down the street. She's seen usgo down the street. They go down
the street, and I'm like,well we go down the street. It's
got to end up, right,otherwise. So I was in the protecting
mode. I met y'all. Itwas a rap, no doubt. Wow,

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these people here, this is good. It's really good. Yeah.
And then that kind of led usto, you know, where everybody got
together on that first call, wedecided to do a call similar to this,
Christmas is twenty twenty two. Well, we got everybody together. What

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was anybody jumping? What were yourthoughts heading into that call? And before
we got on and just with clarity, Oh sorry, value might be saying
the same thing. Sorry Christmas.Yeah, so it was Christmas twenty twenty

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and we got everybody together on hisown call and anybody, I mean,
we've we've already shared. We wantto, you know, restate what we
how we felt, did anybody jumping? How were you feeling leading up to
that call? I guess I'm goingfirst, just to rewind a little bit.

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I was also in the protective mindstage like my dad. I was,
but not necessarily. I don't knowhow many come off. But it
wasn't more so like anything negative.It was more so, like he said,
just wanted to make sure that everythingwent easy copesthetic because it was a
big it was a big week foreverybody, I feel like, so I

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think that's that was kind of ourstandpoint. But to answer your question about
the zoom call, it's it's amuch. It was definitely a different feeling
than it is now. Nobody's goingto I know, I wasn't going to
zoom call early, none of that, Like while we have a zoom call

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on Christmas, I don't know thatwas That was my viewpoint on it.
But you know, I mean,just like anything else, so I feel
like they weren't a little bit ofnerves on my side, and I'm zoom
call didn't get much clarification. Itkind of just gave us like a little

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glimpse. I would say, notlast names, but yeah, that's really
good. Yeah, I mean,the one thing we could confirm, like
we always say, it was notof hinky eyes and hot cheek bone,
So yeah, we knew that wasthe case. It was the one thing
we could confirm. Yeah, anybodyelse wanted to share how they felt leading

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up to that call. Yes,I was very excited that they was from
New York, all right. Iwas like, yeah, I'm not the
only one. I didn't understand myenergy, like, yes, it's gonna
be great. I can't wait.But no, it was I think it

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was definitely a little nerve wrecking.I can always be a lot for some
people sometimes, so I know thatfor me, it was just a little
nerve wrecking. And I was definitelyexcited, like, hopefully they're going to
receive me, because you know,I know that I'm a lot, but
hopefully they loved me, and theydid, and so I'm good. But

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it was a little nerve wrecking.But at the same time, it's like,
once we start their faces, itwas like, oh my god,
Like I was crying. It waslike, what what what's happening right now?
The babies look just like pop out. I actually didn't realize how much
Vow looked like pop until afterward,and now it's just scary. But it
was just like, oh my god, this is so beautiful. I think

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it was just it was such anoverwhelming amount of emotions at once, but
at the end of the day itwas definitely beautiful. Yeah, absolutely,
and opening up so much and youknow, just kind of ease those herbs

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a little. I think that thatfirst call kind of did that a little
bit. It provided questions after that, but I answered a lot of questions
too, but what were your firstimpressions during the call? And then like
how you after you had a chanceto kind of settle your feelings a little
bit and settle your emotions. Whatwere your first impressions of if anything stand

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out to you during the call.Nothing. We just chilled through the call,
like, yeah, it was cool, this is days. Jall.
I don't remember the call, likeI remember doing it, but and like
leading up to it, I kindof lady and said it was just kind

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of nerve wracking for me because Iwas like, why do you have to
do this? Like I don't reallysee the need for it. I have
stuff to do today. It's attwo o'clock. Why is it in the
middle of the day, Like,Josh, why is it during Christmas?
So I don't really remember. Iremember going down downstairs and like saying hey,
but I think that was it.So I think my first impressions came

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back like once my mom started openingup about it and like we started to
embrace everybody as a family. Ithink then I was like okay, like
that's my uncle, doesn't my cousinslike like then when they came down and
it was like okay, like youget to finally put a face to like,

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these people are real. So itjust made it more real once we
were face to face and saw eachother. But I don't think my impressions
or like my feelings changed after thefirst call on Christmas, Oh b Joe.
Our first picture together was June twentytwenty one, when I came down.
Yeah, I took a picture together. It was like insane, how

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you look like my child? Yeah, that's why you're like untie twin now,
Like it doesn't it's crazy, likethe eyes of complexion everything. At
least I know I'm gonna look goodwhen I turn. Yeah. I think
that was the thing that jumped outto me was just you know, looking

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at the faces like of course Joshand that head got my head, and
just his mannerisms and of course youknow at the reunion things like that,
like just looking at him like yougot all my mannerisms, and then like
looking at him, you know,seeing popping him, I'm seeing Keisha and

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tour you know those things. Andthen it kind of hit me Christmas when
we were all at the house togetherand Dais was on the phone one of
her friends and me and Tommy weretalking to her and she said, yeah,
that's both of my uncle Thomas.It kind of hit me. It's
like, oh, I am myuncle Tom and name, but yeah,

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he's got too long time. Soit was, you know, it was
just cool to make those connections.And so like going through this process,
what have been the most challenging timesand the most rewarding times for anybody?
I could step on the rewarding times. I love the family reunion. For

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one, It's been a while sinceI've been around that much family at once,
So that was that was that waspretty big for me. And whether
or not it was you know,not knowing who were there or having to
introduce myself and stuffing like that,Like I didn't really have a problem with
it, but I guess I justtried to soak that up as much as

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possible. And then secondly, itwould probably be Thanksgiving this past year,
Okay, yeah, absolutely, So, like Thom has said, we lost
a lot throughout the year. Soto gain this big family and all this
love is very exciting. And you'veshared with me because you know pop past

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and then a couple of months laterthe confirmation comes in. So it was
I guess this, you know,full circle for all of us we all
gave right. Yeah, So afterreunion, after reunion, what was it

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like? Because that was that wasthe first reunion we had without but it
was also the first reunion we hadWHI ch'all. So it was definitely a
bittersweet moment. But for me,like those that sweetness kind of outweighed everything
because when I looked around the room, and you know, of course it's

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like I said, tight eyes andcheek bones everywhere, but to see like
to look at that and to seehow comfortable you felt like it was,
it was it was good to me. How was yours feeling that did like
leading up to the reunion did itkind of ease anything or were you feeling

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kind of apprehensive as far as youknow when you were when you were headed
there. Why I know one thing, my family was not doing a skit.
They're like, no, right,yeah, yeah. So just a

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little background on that. At thereunions, there's always a talent talent show,
and so Tommy's kids are typically goingto be in it in some form
of fashion, and so we broughtthe idea of doing a skit, like
a collective skit with the family andafter we start hearing crickets and nobody was

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chiming in decided we just reach out, like do y'all even want to do
that? Like nope, nope,I'm out NOPEA which is so understandable,
right because it's like it's your firstreunion. We're like, now get on
the stage. So I just wantto give a little context to that.

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So completely understood. So what sothroughout this price, I know, like
we talked about like specific moments,but what what have you learned? What
have been your teaching points through allthis? And Lincoln with Danny, y'all
welcome to joint in any time y'allwant to Okay, now all right there

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still nothing can shut you up allday? Okay, can you the question?
What have you learned through this process? Like what has been your teaching
moments? Do this well? It'sdefinitely like helped me adjust faster because like
at the start of it, likegoing back to getting on the call in
twenty twenty, is always felt thatfeeling of like awkwardness and it was gonna

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be weird and like learning the wholenew side of the family. But as
soon as we got together in thebeach out and the family came around they
kind of went away and got comfortable. Absolutely, Ladani, I would say

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it it made me feel more comfortable, like with my own decisions, Like,
for example, hearing things that likeTori and Josh would do good or
bad, it just made me feellike, Okay, Like if I were
to do something bad and everybody's gonnaknow about it, I'm like, dang,

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it would be me. But hearingother people like act out or anything
like that, it was like,Okay, I'm not the only one.
It was Josh as bad as possible. Well, here's a word for the

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wise. Don't ever Robert Bank withyour cousin because he's gonna tell him Jesus
christ Man, that is hilarious.Well, answer the other question, the
other one? What was the otherone? With the rewarding of the was

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the most challenging and most rewarding.So for me, I think the most
I don't want to say challenging,I just I guess maybe more disappointing was
that I would have loved to bea part of Tori in Josh's lives so

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much earlier. And I think thatwas God, I'm gonna start crying.
And I think that was the partthat was very Yeah, it was definitely
disappointing. Okay, we can sayit was very challenging. But I just
think it's beautiful that we get tohave and create so many more memories.
But and the rewarding is the amountof love that comes from them, you

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know, the our beautiful white family. And I just I think rewarding is
for me, more love is all. He's more rewarding. But then to
be able to have another brother inlaw, to have another sister in law,

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to have a new niece and nephew, like all of those are definitely
rewarding. And then just being ableto have more family around the table.
And even though I haven't been ableto join in any of the lovely family
dinners that we need to have orthat have been had, it's just great
to even know that it's a possibilityand it's there. Beautiful. Yeah,

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absolutely, and I've been with that. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. Yeah, I didn't seeno challenges, NEI. All I seen
was rewards from the moment once Imet you, met the family, It's
just been rewarded. It hasn't reallybeen no challenges because to be around like

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Wayne, you to be around bigmen when that came down there and met
the family at the family union.There was so many strong, big men,
and I was like, wow,this is awesome. You know,
the time I spent with Wayne,the time I spent with you, it's
just and the love, you know, it's just it's just it's really really

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good. The food a man,you know, it's just it's just been
a blast. I mean, I'mwith my son Thanksgiving. I haven't had
a Thanksgiving like that no while,because, like we said, a lot
of our family appear passed away.So when they came and the way they

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the way we just sat and feltso comfortable that when y'all was leaving,
I was like already, and Ihave never already a person. I'm like,
yeah, you know, you tellme I got you, you know,
but I'll be honest with you,y'all. I was like, wow,
I'm not going already. You ain'twin on the day, you know.

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And oh, the one challenge thatdid have, it's trying to keep
up with Wayne on that move onwhat moves. Oh wow, I'm so

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glad we're laughing now because you gotme when you start talking about my children.
I remember when we spent Christmas togetherand the kids. It just worked
out that way, like two itwas like in Tues, Tues would cook
one day to clean and just watchingall the children together, And that's what

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really hurt me at that time,Like, Wow, why did I wait
so long? I didn't think ofthe bigger picture, you know, I
was just thinking of myself, notthinking about you know, I got a
niece, I got a nephew,three nephews, and like that piece just
watching them all together made truly realizehow much I miss even though I feel

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so blessed now, but I totallyfeel you maybe that's where I was as
well. Yeah, I think that'sthe biggest challenge for me was acknowledging and
being able to speak out loud howmuch it hurt and bothered that we did

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miss time without feeling like you stepit on toes, hurting on feelings,
you know, hurting feelings and feellike you know, like I gotta protect
Pop in a certain way, likeand not to say that you know not
and putting in ways that it's nothis fault, is nobody's fault, but
acknowledge that yeah, you know,we miss time and it hurt, but

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also acknowledged that we got what wegot now. So that was the biggest
chanchallenge for me because I didn't want, you know, you kind of want
to feel like you're not hurting anybody, you're not speaking bad on anybody,
but still being truthful. And thatwas the biggest challenge for me. Of
course, the biggest reward is,yeah, seeing you know, with Josh

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and Tory, you know, seeingthem at that this moment, especially being
this is a critical moment in lifeperiod when you're crossing that threshold into adulthood.
So to be able to witness thatis a blessing. And you know,
to be able to have a brotherin law's got like five hundred million

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dollars in gold bars inside, butit's inside. But but yeah, man,
to be able to have a brotherin law, you know, just
another like you said, like anotherman that I can relate to. And

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and that's loving. And like Isaid, when you know, times when
you know, let's just see yourfaces and times where I needed to see
your faces, it was a blessing. So those are always, you know,
good things. And I'm Michelle Man, I love y'all. Yeah,
exactly, that's it, no question, Uh, I would I would know

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it was a challenge. Well,it is the part that that uh me
and me and uh time was britttight and the fact that he ain't get
to enjoy this how well we connected, how easy it was, and you
know that's that's that's that's kind ofbut and the reward is, you know,

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this is how he wanted this,would he would love this, you
know. So that's that's And thenyou know, it's hard to find somebody
that you know, I think andit's into the type thing that I'm been
too, you know, so theyget up, Uh meet Tommy. I'm

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talking about big Timmy now. Andthen you know I've always been the tallest
you know that's got that was thatthat was the challenge, hard to handle
that used to not being the talksnow wrong. But I'm working to don't
worry. He ain't the talks either, gonna be in this chat about it

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because he loves like he just wokeup behind me us have a side me
for no reason. I'm like,wow, you think somebody checking up?
Nobody. I'm walking to go tothe fridge anyway, I'm thinking about that.
Oh man, so what is what? So we'll go around the room

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so everybody give an answer. What'swhat's been the the thing you're looking most
forward to, And it can bewonder, it can be many. We'll
start with well, we'll start withyou. What I'm looking forward to?

(33:38):
Yes, one thing you're most lookingforward to. It's so I'm not really
to be honest, if I haveto look forward to anything, it's next
time I'm going to see everyone.You know. I don't have no you
know, no anxiety anymore. No, you know, it's just when I'm

(33:59):
going to see my piece, myfamily. It's all fandi. That's who
you are to me now. It'snot like, oh I wonder if my
sister in law gonna like me oryou don't gotta like me, you better
love me though, you know.That's it because I ain't going nowhere.
So that's where I'm at now.Any family, absolutely, Torrio, I'm

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looking forward to. I don't know, I'm not really looking up to anything.
Maybe just the next time seeing ya, absolutely, Josh. I think,
uh, being at the age thatI am now, when I was

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introducing everything, I never really thoughtabout it until you know, it's set
on my mind for a little bit. But just the inclusion going forward,
I think making then adjustment for us. Uh, you know, like not
to say any it's it's just adifferent adjustment. I think both adjustments for

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you guys. It's like four ofus right right, So it's like that's
that's more so what I'm looking forwardto as far as like meeting up and
stuff and things of that nature,and and just going forward with the inclusion,
whether that be you know, bigweddings or whatever the case may be,
going down on the line. Ilook forward to to adding guys there

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and things of that nature, Nodoubt, tell me, no, no,
I wouldn't go stay, don't dothat. I just didn't wanted to
go past anyone else. I wasn'ttrying to give the Danny and more talking
points and stuff that Josh them did. So was I was gonna let us

(35:51):
slide. Tell me right easy,man, just where we're gonna get together,
Where we're gonna sit talk, whenI'm gonna see you and Wayne.
It's just about getting together. We'rerapping for asking for my little nephews.

(36:14):
You know, buss up the littleone. See shock. We'll let me
see y'all's all this, no doubt, Keisha, I mean, I guess
I could say more of the samereally, I would say, just in
enhancing the relationships, you know,and giving more energy towards that, because

(36:42):
there's so much. There's just somuch, right, It's like we had
all those years. I don't liketo look at time it's like wasted.
It's never wasted, it's just whatit was. But but there's just so
much juice that is there and andright now, how I feel like I've
experience is like when we are together, you know, but there's so much

(37:02):
time in between those times, right, So it's always good when we're together,
but really looking to be more intentionalabout making those connections in between the
time because I love y'all. It'sso good. Tanya did did, dido

(37:23):
diddo. But I look forward toevery next encounter like our Tuesday morning calls.
I look so forward to it.And every time we connect, we
always learn something different, something new, And so yes, I'm definitely looking
for the time all of us cometogether, but whatever that next encounter is,

(37:44):
I'm always looking forward to when ohyeah, just getting together and hang
out, you know, back inthe yard you know, you know they
don't Sorry, Yes, I agree, I'm looking forward to all of that,

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but also like just being a childlike my mom's child is just like
hearing more of the story. SoI think we had a good time at
Thanksgiving last year and we were likeall sitting at the bar in New Jersey
and just kind of like hearing thestory. But then it became so filled
with the motion that I feel likea lot of pieces were like we didn't

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get to or like, oh Ihave a question about this, or oh
I want to know that. SoI think that's my biggest thing. And
then also just like building relationships withmy little cousins, because they're my big
little cousins, like you said earlieron, but just like building those relationships
and even though we're so far indistance, being able to function as first

(39:01):
cousins, no doubt, Playdan Well, I really cannot wait for Valentine me
to go create. You know,you know what we want in the mail?

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Please what did you say? Canyou please put some of your right
and that everybody wants the right.I definitely cannot wait to come to Jersey
and to visit. But yeah,of course, it's all being able to
be together and just to create more. That's what I can't wait here with

(39:50):
Daniel. I'm excited to be moreinvolved with like the organization of everything.
Like I feel it's gonna be abonding experience to have to work with my
cousins, like to organize family reunionthings, to organize meetups, anything like

(40:12):
that. Stuff like this. I'mgonna eventually have to organize stuff like this.
I feel like it's gonna be excitingto do that. Yeah, next
generation, right, Lincoln. I'mjust excited to try new things, like

(40:34):
whole family, especially going from thefamily like in the Cabins. Damn.
Really the family, that's the mostthing that I'm excited about. I'm looking
forward to the other the best familygatherers, like good Tom's everybody just in
a good spirit most of the time. It's just good energy. A lot

(40:55):
of the songs. Yeah. Andfor me, yeah, I'm just looking
forward to it's creating memories. Man, it's you know, like I said,
it's it's it's such a good thingto like you said, to get
past that that ancient stage and thatlike like Vow says, it's, uh,

(41:16):
it's about creating memories now. Anduh, I can't wait. Man,
I don't know. I was lookingforward to seeing and everybody being together
because it's always like just it's it'sit's wholesome many and I love family time
anyway, but yeah, and there'salways soone's ful, and it's always a

(41:37):
lot of food, so happy,so not a good food. This is
the one thing we can all dois throw down in the kitchen, no
doubt. But yeah, we werecoming up on it, coming up on
an hour. Anybody got anything toadd? Okay, Uh, thank y'all

(42:00):
for joining us. You know,this is like I said, this is
not just our story, it's yourstory too. So we want to make
sure that we got an opportunity foreverybody's voices to be heard and give our
listeners an opportunity to hear everybody sideof it. So the story continues,

(42:20):
and lady and you say you gotsomething to add, what you got to
say? Yeah, I think forme the most interesting part of all of
this is hearing everyone else's perspectives andhearing all the little bits of what this
uncle might have to say, orthis aunt might have to say, or

(42:43):
you know, just the cousins andthe family and just everyone's perspectives and opinions.
Of course, all of it beingfrom a place of love, but
just being able to get more piecesfrom everyone and just to hear, like,
you know, sitting at the familyreunion and one of the aunts next
to me going, oh my goodness, you look just like Tommy, you

(43:05):
know, And oh my goodness,the kids look just like Tommy. It's
just it's so it's, it's it'sit's just so beautiful, it's so it's
I'm trying to think of the wordto put for it, but it's just
great to be able to experience allof it. I think every little piece
that we get when we're with eachother, just learning more about each other,

(43:30):
because there's so much more we getto learn and know within every interaction.
So it's just I'm I'm very gratefulfor this experience. I'm I'm so
incredibly happy that well, to haveyou guys, to have you a part
of the family, to have youhere, like it's just it's amazing that

(43:52):
this has happened. And I don'teven though I know, of course,
I said I would have loved tobe a part of everyone's lives a lot
earlier. I always believe that everythinghappens exactly on time, and so I
think it's beautifully aligned exactly the wayit needs to be. So love you

(44:13):
guys, love you that. Yes, yes, it's been law. I
just want to add to that,thank you so much for that because your
heart is so big and it's beautiful, and thank you to you mentioned about
perspectives. And I think one ofthe things that's I think we can actually
really be intentional about moving forward isthat we continue to include the kids in

(44:43):
the things that we keep learning becausethey know what they know. But we
have recalls every Tuesday, right,so things may come up or you know,
as we keep learning from other othermembers of our family, whatever new
information we learned, so that itcontinues to funnel down to them so this

(45:05):
doesn't get stuck with us. SoI think that will allow for them to
expand as well into their perspective andtheir you know, to be included in
all of it. I just wantedto add that little piece, like the
haircut that's been spoken about way wellwell, Cicia, at least you no

(45:29):
longer the last to know about everything. That's right. It's a good thing,
y'all know I was always the lastone than now welcome to the club,
Josh right, oh cool, andthis is this has been great again,
Thank y'all for our for joining us. And you know this is the

(45:49):
open imitation to anybody and anybody everwant to just jump on. You know,
we we try to do it,you know, once a mole.
So anybody just want to jump onand and speak some some words to us,
So say hello, tell on somepeople whatever you want to, feel
free to join us. That wouldbe you what you told me? Oh

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