All In 2025 Predictions

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H m hm and welcome to Cruisin Cafe. About mongo em.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And I'm Jeff, how are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I was like, we probably you're told Ninja woud Yes,
we are joined by Smoaky aka Jeff for our predictions tonight.
My fault, I forgot to tell me when we usually
introduced him, so I threw them off my bed.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I got it though, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You are you're a professional. You're a professional.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I try.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
We're getting ready to go all in. Unfortunately Rachel couldn't
join us tonight, but she is here in spirit. Jeffs
ready for us.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I do are.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Gonna be part of the pre show because we're gonna
ready to go y'all in. I can't wait twice in
the bottom corner screen, it's time.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm yall in. Oh yeah, there's a lot of potential.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Been waiting all week yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And there's a lot of potential for a lot of
different stuff to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
This is probably sorry, No, no.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I'm just saying a lot of potential for a lot
of different things to happen, yep, and a lot of
different ways they can go. And as you can tell everybody,
I am in my car right now. So little different
venues tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
True, true, vacationion good a little, but yeah, I'm excited
to see this potential pay per view of the year.

(02:20):
This has a feeling, I mean it definitely. It feels big.
This is probably the biggest pay per view build and
feeling in a long time that I feel is gonna
live up. And this this kind of feels like that
first double or nothing, or that first big all out
like twenty twenty one. It's this. This is a huge build.
It feels almost like WrestleMania. For aw. This feels huge

(02:45):
this week.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, it does good build up all week.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
That you be Jesse and I don't know about you guys,
some good wrestling. I've been so fifty to fifty. I've
been so fifty to fifty on these predictions. I've been
so back and forth, and Jeff, I don't impue you
because you got the honor of going first permach for
every prediction tonight. It's gonna be a rough one because

(03:12):
I don't think I've gone this back and forth in
a long time.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
There were several matches I had to really think about
where the direction they might want to go with was
like heart didn't even matter because there's just too much
to go on. It is.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I know you, Emily, You've been kind of I couldn't
decide until last second. I did the rest of my notes,
like mental notes were happening, but I actually wrote things
down around five tonight and I was like, do I.
I didn't even do my pick'ems until I was done
my notes to be sure that I knew what I
wanted because my heart is just so full right now.

(03:52):
This is like the best night that we're gonna have
and it's not even gonna be a night show. It's
a matinee.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yep, I'll be watching it between softball games comorrow much.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh no, I guess we gotta start out with your
favorite team, though. We got to start out with the Men,
the myth, the Youngest Man Alive, the Outrunners taking on
FTR and what a follow up from that classic on collision.
So I'm so excited. But Jeff, I want to hear
your thoughts. Obviously, what Rachel sat, who do you think

(04:30):
wins this match?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
From?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Kind of how do you say it?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
So? Rachel has the Outrunners winning because really, at heart,
she is a runner. She's a runner at heart, So no,
I just figured for her. She kind of, you know,
her typical thing, but I figure she was going to
be an outrunner outrunner because this one wasn't announced yet

(04:56):
when she did her predictions for me. So I told her,
I said, you with outrunners to win, right, She's like yeah,
She's like, they're just gonna win. I said, okay, she
really didn't have men, clever lines or anything else. So
and she's like, fuck FTR pretty much so and of
course on this, on this one. Yeah, so on this

(05:18):
one we actually agreed. I actually picked the runners this
time finally. So my reasoning is there's too much vascularity
and too much youth to lose this match. Pay back
time for the outrunners.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Plus I used my line kind of for Rachel, but
fuck FTR, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
YEP awesome, I love it. I love it. Where to start?
All right, Emily, you got the youngest, most vascular or.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
So.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I I do want to say that I hope that
they open the show. I hope that they are the
first zero hour or the one rate before, like the
main event to Zero Hour. I think that this is
gonna be so energetic, comical, because you've got stokely and
the outrunners like yes, and I don't know, like this

(06:15):
is just gonna bring that big energy feel that we
need in Zero Hour to tune you in. And can
we just talk about how they're putting two of their
best tag teams into Zero Hours so that we can
really focus on the product. We've had so many new
aw fans, and I think it's so smart to include
so many talented wrestlers in the free show.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Emily just answered your question, Matt. I think it's on
zero because that main show is already so stacked, and
I don't think they wanted to get lost in the sauce.
So I think Showcase Zero Hour I feel like it's
such a bad rep but their pre shows are just
as good as their pay per views, so I don't
think it's.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Too much phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think sometimes the pre show is actually not better,
but it adds that extra spice that you needed because
it helps again, it brings in more of the people,
and that's what you want. You want people that were
teetering buying the paper you to be like, oh, yeah,
that's right, they are the best wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
And to answer RONDI, yes, we did see a few more.
We saw that the Chain Tailor Promotions versus the van
Erics and the Sons of Texas are at it. And
also something else was added last the Big Boss and
the Conglomeration versus Don Cow's family. So you don't have Okay,
I think there are shaping to be fun if.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
We have time. We'll talk about them after well.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
And this should and this should be a good match too,
because both these teams know each other. I mean, we
did have the FDR Runners for a while, so you know,
I have a feeling that this will be a pretty
good match. Of course, I have.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
The Outrunners winning, of course, because again they're just so vascular.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
They've kind of held a rookie year. So I also
am going to go for the Outrunners.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Because four for four on the first partic.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
This is gonna be a first that we're all. But
the thing is, I can't I can't bet on truth.
I mean, I can't get against truth, and I can't
bet against Turbo. I can't. I shouldn't go in my heart,
but I'm going my heart. Like you said, Jeff, they
lost on collision. This is the one they get back
because they're not done with FTR and they showed the
world how good they are. Now show the world again

(08:25):
on the biggest stage how good they are.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And then we are I mean card again. This is
no particular order, It's just in order that I tried
to go, because I tried to put the hardest matches
last to be perfectly transparent. So Jeff, again, you got
the heart plays going first. But we have Kyle Fletcher
versus Adam Cole for the TNT title Babe.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, Rachel, this is another one of her guys, so
pretty much Rachel's Adam Cole Beabey. She loves her baby,
so she's definitely a little biased on this one. So
I'm gonna say her heart pick is Adam Cole, babe.
Now in true Jeff and Rachel fashion. Now it's my pick,

(09:17):
which is the complete opposite, even though I do love
me some babe. But I'm going with the Proto Star.
It's a shorter run than I would have liked to
see for Adam Cole, considering the injuries he came back
from and all that, but I feel the Proto Star
is ready to showcase what he's been doing. I mean,
he's tearing it up. He looks fucking great. Like, I

(09:39):
feel like he's really close to ready or ready, So
I think it's his time to shine. So there's gonna
be some really good spots in this match, and I
think it's also gonna be a pretty solid match. So
but I'm going with the proto star.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I like it. I like it, right, So, Emily, I
know you were kind of conflicted on this rail because
you also like both.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Of them stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
But I know the stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
That you like to say his full name. I know
you like you from Kyle Fletcher and that pink.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
So here's the thing. Adam Cole's chase for the title
against Garcia perfection. Loved it, you wanted to hate it.
Loved it. Everything about that fantastic. Where has that fight been?
No one has been able to really touch him in
a solo's match. That's really just annoying.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hey, Rachel, So.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I feel like it's just been a lackluster title run
in comparison to where he was previously in the chase
for it, And we always say that the chase is
better for a face.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I say a thought of yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I see a lot of Trio's potential with the Paragon.
I see a lot of that happening. I'm ready for
Kyle Fletcher to make his solo run. I'm ready to
see this defended every week. I'm ready to see Colligion
get taken over by the Don Kallis family, get them
off of Dynamite, give us a fighting champion. Kyle Fletcher.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Nice, So before I go you Unfortunately, Rachel is in
the minority with Adam Cole c Only fourteen percent of
people said Adam Cole and eighty six percent said Kyle
Fletcher the proto start to get singles gold, and I wow,
I'm going to join you, guys. I think Kyle Fletcher
also gets his first haste of singles gold, and I

(11:43):
think he turns the strap pink. I think we get
a pink title belt, and I think he's just going
to be so over the top Tealish with this. Like
you said, it's going to be that workhorse champion, but
it's going to be the base is going against him.
It's going to happ elevate that title and Collision agree.
I think we get a pink and t tittle. That's
my first tinfoil of the night. I know that Matt

(12:03):
Harding wants Adam Cole but Alex for you, buddy, I
know you're not cool guy. It's time for the fletch
Light Section to take over. Fletcher is getting.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Flight. I heard, I heard. I like it the fletch Light.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I agree with Rondo enough.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
He calls himself the proto star.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And pro should have for the tag team name. It's
it's fantastic. But yeah, book that right now. I definitely
that's an unfortunate type. So I'm gonna point it out
for everyone. What was your TYPEO, especially with our conversation.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's amazing item available in the merch store.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Maybe oh wow, Okay, we're not gonna go to that,
and that says I'm here for fletch Light one. Say
that one, Matt, you said it's not mine. I heard.
I saw it on Twitter a while ago. He signed
it said fletch Light Section two.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Now we're gonna go to a match that I'm key
excited for. And I didn't miss Jesse's point. It's your point.
I do think that Adam Cole and Kyle Fletcher will
be sneak good. Another match that's gonna be sneak good.
Right here. A lot of people aren't paying attention to
this the Ops versus Death Fighters, but the Death Fighters
with Gabe fucking kids, So Gabe Kid and samo Jo
in the same rim in the ring, Gabe Kid and

(13:33):
Will Hobbs in the same ring, and then his mentor,
which we just saw a classic match with Sabata. Some
great matchups here. I think this trios match is gonna
be fun. I think this is what you need to
be that like cool down match before the Battle Royal
or before Kenny Mega. I think this is gonna be
that fun over the top trios match's just gonna be
meat slapping meat and people getting thrown around. You just
gonna get tossed around like a bitch in this one.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, he is. He's definitely the bump guy.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Something interesting, Yes, something interesting that you'd have said in
that promo yesterday was something about that you can't hurt
me as much as the Death Riders have hurt me,
something along those lines. That's very telling.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It is it is mm hm telling Jeff, you're ready
to tell the world who you and Rachel think are
going to be the Tritish Champions after all? Inside do
you think the Ops keep it? What do you think
this new version of Death Writers with the Mercenary, gay
kid are going to get some gold.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Rachel went with and still champions the Ops. She did
not give me a whole lot of notes on this
particular one, but she's picking the Ops and I did
see the slapping meat. But and typical Jeff and Rachel fashioned,

(14:54):
I picked the Death Riders and gave kids just to
keep it real. I feel like the Death Riders need
some need some shit to go their way to make
this story seem stronger instead of weaker. I feel like
this will be a big thing before their implosion because
everybody's seeing the implosion. You're seeing these hints, you're seeing

(15:16):
these tidbits, these easter eggs, whatever. Well, I feel like
them winning this Trios would go, hey, fuck you look,
we're stronger than ever, not weak, you know what I mean,
which then can set it up more for future. So
with my thinking, I'm going to do that. I'm going
to go to Death Riders because I feel like it's

(15:37):
really going to be the start of the implosion, except
a different way. Also, I feel like this is going
to be a very physical and hard hitting match, kind
of like what you know. Matt commented with the slap
and meat because both sides definitely don't like each other.
And now my tinfoil hat shit, which god, there could
be so much? So? Does Hook come out and cost

(15:59):
the Eye the victory? Do we get a surprise appearance
from the Bang Bang Gang guns up? So there's a
couple of tin foils I'm throwing in.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
I didn't think of them coming in for this one.
I liked that.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
For some reason, my head started spinning on ten foil stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Welcome to the club.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh it was. It was heavy on this paper.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
We keep, we keep food fresh, we keep we keep
food hot, and we keep our ideas flow.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, maybe I got the wrong hat on, but that's okay,
all right.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
So I'm because I know I'm going to be alone
on this. Maybe Rachel had some of these same thoughts.
I'm gonna pretend it. I am not alone wolf, as
Rachel also picked the ops, I also have Hook interfering.
But I think he's gonna shock us. I think he's
gonna help them, and right, thank you, thank you, crown me.

(17:14):
I think it's time to see the Death Riders go
away for a bit. Looking for a hard hitting match
after seeing Gabe Kids match on Wednesday, or Thursday, whatever
night it was. But I'm looking forward to like the
heavy chops that we heard, the strong style, Yeah, that
strong style. I'm looking forward to seeing that again. And
there's such potato hits. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You have meat and potatoes, Matt, you can't go wrong.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Question for you guys. You know that Moxley has a match.
Do you think that Marina Shaffer is ringside for this
match as well?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Absolutely, she's with when the Death Riders around, she's around.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I think she is pretty much.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I mean, get a little bit of a fray at
some point.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
That's what I was gonna say. Or does is there
potential later?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
That's true. Now, it's funny that you guys, you and
Rachel went with the Death Writers because only twenty five
percent of the poll went with the Death Riders.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
No, only.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Only me, I'm the minority.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
You went with the Ops. Yeah, just case so Jeff
only you've got so. I guess I'm pulling to Jeff
because I'm also going with a shock victory of the
Death Riders because someone took my tinful you both did.
I think Hook is screwing over Simojo because he should
have been double or nothing and walked away. We had

(18:40):
nothing since then. We've had nothing since then, We've had
no answers, no development. He seemed upset. Even on Twitter,
Hobbs said, Hey, you're not out of the death Riders.
We just stepped up to help you. But they never
helped him, They never acknowledged him. He's angry. And then
another thing you have with the whole Hook situation is
John Moxley on Thursday specifically said I'm looking around the

(19:04):
world for people who have this, who have that guts,
who have this, who have the strength, who have the
know how, who want to do this. He saw that
in Utah. I think he sees it Hook. I think
Hook becomes a death Rider. I think he's sick of
the disrespect. I think he's sick of being overlooked. I
think he joins the Arthur. I think he has a
heel turn and I think he helps him win the

(19:24):
hell and again it sets up something for Forbidden Door.
I have Eddie Kingston is going to be keeping eye
on that name tonight because Gabe kid Eddie Kingston unfinished business,
and I think that loves them getting the Trios titles,
so that way Eddie Kinks can maybe help would be
an honorary member of the Ops to help out Forbidden Door.
That's kind of where I'm leaning with this one. So

(19:45):
that was my tinfoil.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
And just asking. Eddie broke his leg during that match
with Gabe Kid.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yes, he's superplexing to the side and his leg hit
the number. It hit the Him and Eddie have had words,
They've had beef, and you know, I agree with Jesse.
He said he could see him helping. I could see
Hook helping the Ops too, but I see the swerve.
I guess my timfol says, I see Hook helping the
Death Riders.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I don't want it to go that way though.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I Hook works as a heel. He he is funny,
but he worked better as a heel. I think, yeah
either way. I think it's gonna be a good match,
but the match another match, is gonna be fantastic. I
wish if the Outrunners were involved in this one.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I want him work teams to be at it.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I really wanted all five teams to be in this
match with it. I know it's alone. It is the
tag team title match. Jet Speed versus the Patriarchy Verse
the Hurt Syndicate for the eight W Tag Team Champions
match the Triple Threat match where the Hurt Syndicate does
not have to be involved in the decision and is
notice qualification should so it's a big test for all

(20:47):
three teams. But Jets and Rachel and me, what do
we got?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
We got? Okay? So Rachel as the Hurt Syndicate, she
says they are over with the fans and they are
not done with their current title reign yet. And then,
unfortunately I have to agree with Rachel because we fucking
hurt people. I don't see this being uh, I don't

(21:11):
see this being the match and take the titles away
from him. They're also going to be extremely pissed off
and extremely violent because of getting jumped this you know,
this week, So they're not gonna be happy about it.
So they're gonna get very violent, and uh, they're gonna
hurt people who.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I like it. I like it all right, So do
you have do you have the hurt or do you
have the father and son deal? That patriarchy?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
You ruined me uh with this match, and then he's
like bringing everybody, so I have this whole other setup here. However,
I want to see the Hurt Syndicate win this because
I also want to see m j F hold gold
or chase title with them. I think that it would
be very intriguing to have all of them holding gold.

(22:06):
I think that's why i'm JF teamed up with them.
I think that that's the reason MJF teamed up with them. However,
like I said, Manga released this. He ruined my expectations
and hopes for this match. I need more beef in
the ring. Maybe at All Out we get a multiman
tag match featuring the outrunners FTR, Jet Speed Patriarchy, give

(22:30):
us the Guns everything. I want to see the Guns
stepping up to the Hurt Syndicate because I feel like
the Guns are one of the ones with the most
potential against them last month. I'm just saying, I think
this is now what I want to see, Like this

(22:51):
is booked in my brain. I need to see it
at All Out. I need this.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think Rondo's onto something there that FTR could cost
the Patriot because there was some tension on Collision when
Christian speared them and I get, you know, him being
arrogant and promising FTR. FTR feeling slight out of this
and if our predictions are correct, me out runners win,
FDR gonna be really pissed off. So you talked about
the hurt syneicit being pissed off. I think that's some

(23:18):
good we got. Jesse's saying the hurt Syndicate stipulation all out.
You guys agree with them mostly. I mean it's fifty
eight percent says the hurt Syndicate, thirty two percent says
the patriarchy, and about ten percent says Jet Speed.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I would agree with that Speed had a chance.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
When it came to the underdog role. However, we hurt people.
I gotta go with the hurt Syndicate. I gotta go
with my brain set in my heart.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
As much i'd love to see.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Bother and Son and all the Shenanigans Christian could pull,
I don't think it's time yet. And I think Rohnda
is thinking the same thing. I'm thinking that the patriarchy
gets taken out by FTR. But I agree, I think
the hurt sything comes out. I think they just troy everyone.
It just look dominant. Just it's not a happy ending
for any of the tag teams. But that's also because

(24:07):
I agree Emily took my kind of my thunder. There
a little bit. Because everyone that the hurts, everyone that
hurts Synecate has taken out, has disappeared, Private Party, the Guns.
They all are gonna come back. They're all going to
want revenge, and I agree with them. I think there's
gonna be some sort of multi ladder match or maybe

(24:28):
we see because this is what I was thinking this morning,
the very first Casino tag team Gauntlet for the Gold
where they will almost do like a I don't know
what you call it when you stand in the ring
when they keep doing it, I can't think of any
of that right now, where it's they keep you until
you pen you lose. I think the hurt Sinecate will
be in. They just have. The ring's gonna fill up

(24:48):
like a gauntlet style and they're gonna have to try
to defend their titles, and I think it's gonna be
everyone who they've beaten. I think that your idea with
MGF with the Gold is good too, but I think
that it's gonna be like the the entire division has
to take them down. That's kind of where I see
them losing. It's the entire division has to kind of
stand up against them to keep them protected. So I'm
overbooking this year. I'm doing it, pulling a Jeff Jarrett,

(25:10):
making this a mess. But at the end of the day,
it's the Hurt Syndicate because I think that it's going
to be a bunch of teams that eventually do it.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Something we forgot to point out is that Nick Wayne
had the ship beat out of him last night and tonight,
and he just had the ship beat out of him
tonight and Wednesday. I believe he also wrestled.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
The tinfoil hat is infectious. I love this. It's spreading
to the comments. Now Jesse with a great one tinfold.
What if MJF gets in a match with the hammer
Stone all the shit, that would be phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean, there is the Gauntlet.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
There's so much and when that comes up, that's gonna
be Really you thought my tinfoil was crazy, my overbooking
was bad, Wait till you get to the gauntlets. But
we're not there yet, because here's one that I think
is gonna be divisive. We have the Bucks versus swerve
an Offspry and there's so many ways this can go
because both ways have an amazing story potential. Jeff again,

(26:02):
and you get the hardest.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Part both On one second, my some reason, my earbuds
went out.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
They lose them. What the he gotta love technology? Or
when's the gold Man makes a tag team at his
title show. That's a good one to him winning the
tag team titles and going for Oh I like that.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I like the way you think, yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Okay, I'm back, Okay, I'm back, sorry about that. I
do like where Jesse's heads that, and I do like
i'd like where Jesse's heads that on some of that stuff.
I did see the comments while I was messing with that,

(26:48):
So okay, we're at bucks. Okay, gotcha? All right. So
Rachel is actually gonna vote against will Osprey for the
first time I think ever. She is taking the Young Bucks.
I don't know, but she actually threw a little tinfoil
hat and and said that some of the death Riders

(27:11):
get involved for the Young Bucks, and she said she
thinks it might turn bloody, and she said it really
hurt her heart to go against Swerve and Will. And
like I said, I think this is the first time
ever for her not predicting Will. I think, well, yeah, agreed, agreed. Well,

(27:33):
Unfortunately I got to break the streak, and I agree
with Rachel, I'm picking the young Bucks. I am really
curious to see what kind of storylines can develop with
Will and swerve out of the title picture for a year.
That leaves a lot of room for a lot of
other people to do stuff. You know that's going to
have effect on all these storylines that are currently happening.

(27:55):
So on the same note, though, the end of the
EVPs could mean the end of the Death Riders since
they no longer have that kind of support and backing
from the AW executives. So I'm kind of there. And
then yes, Ronda and the several of the comments, I agree,
this could be our Jack Perry signing. There's another tinfoil.
I had to so I'm with you guys on that

(28:18):
Jack Berry.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh want the Bucks? Okay, I like it?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yes, I like this. Everyone's gotting the tin foil. We're
all sharing the rounds Drawlin so Emily, So I had
is ev BROV? Is it EVB? Do we get my EDB?
Or do they not challenge for the title for a year?

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I don't think I've ever gone against Ospry either, maybe,
like once I had the Bucks, but now I'm wondering
what if there's a tie, what if they're it just ends,
Like what if for some reason, Yeah, there's like a
draw like time draw, something happens or disqualification.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
I don't think they would do that a paper view,
that's it's the EVPs.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
What if they just walked away, keep their title? Fuck
this about?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I don't think no, because I think they would have
to run it back. I don't think they not the
biggest pay per view of the year. If this was
a Dynamite hundred percent not of the pay per view,
I couldn't see that. Well that's two twenty nineteen bencemc man.
I don't think they would do it.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Well, I do have to say I agreed with Jeff
so going back to the Bucks my notes I have.
There's so much to look at here. All four of
them have so much to lose. However, there's another coveted
title that I would love to see both of them
go after tonight or tomorrow night. I think that losing

(29:39):
the EVP title, what does that actually mean for the Bucks?
Can we lose over that?

Speaker 1 (29:43):
They lose their power.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
But like define what their power is?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
They lose their they lose their legitimate power, anya. They
won't build to book matches, they don't both to call
the shots. They're just gonna be talent.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm just I know what this means. I'm just saying,
dumb it down for the people that may not have
already been watching this for a while.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's what I'm saying. They literally lose all their power.
They lose their stroke, they lose they go matt they
lose their stroke, they lose. Yeah, have any type of pull,
So yeah, I think it basically, it would basically mean
they go from that to just the founding fathers, and
they stick with the founding fathers, and they can run
that back to their originals and they create they found

(30:21):
the company. But they'll have the same amount of power
as Jack Perry, they'll have the same amount of power
as John Moxley. They won't have power to veto things.
They will build to make matches or not make matches.
So it's an interesting dynamic. Do do you think the
Bucks are keeping their titles.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Or do you think no, they're Yeah, the Bucks are
going to win.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Okay, so this one is split on our polls. I
didn't think it would be this split. It's only fifty
fifty it's fifty to fifty. I don't know if you
can see the pie chat very well.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah, we talk about that here.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I meant, mister pim cheerwine, let's let's go. Jesse will
know about the cheerwine. It don't really sugary, but it's delicious.
I definitely agree with Henry because this is what I've
been saying for a while. For a long time. Jack

(31:26):
Perry's fucking pissed off. He came back in April after
being suspended to making any for himself Japan. He attacked
Tony because the Bucks told him you're a member of
the elite. Stick with us, You're gonna rise to the top.
He got his TT title run, then he was tied
to a bus and he was left in a barn
to basically die. Then he got the shit kicked out
of him, set on fire, lost his title, and the

(31:47):
Bucks were like our bad dog. Then he goes to
Japan and he said all that and and he loses
again and they're like our bad dog. He's not gonna
help the Bucks. He's coming to cost the Bucks their
EVP titles. He is going to screw the Bucks over.
Not because he likes Osprey and Swerve. But because he's
basically screw you, I came back, I'm still your scapegoat.

(32:08):
You still don't respect me. He is screwing the Bucks over,
Ospray and Swerve win. It changes the dymic. I think
that's why they've been really leaning into that founding Fathers
gimmick Moore, so that way they have that other little
like shtick going on. But I will say my pick
is to lock down. Is the Bucks losing Swerve not

(32:30):
very winning. I will say if Osprey is Sware booze,
I can see it because think about it, If Hangman
were to win the title, Swerve can't challenge him for
a year, already keeps that instant rematch away. Let's that
simmer more. Ospray won't build a challenge until about Wembley. Like,
even if they do lose, it's not gonna hurt them.

(32:50):
It just sets it up to give them storyline reason
why they don't go Ray after the title and why
other pizzas. But doesn't mean they can't go after the
unified title exactly. So I can't see it going both ways.
But please Jack Perry, screw those Bucks over and just
do it, because I think he needs to shed that

(33:11):
level up.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, what if he screws them over but it doesn't
actually work. What if he tries to screw the Bucks
and then ends up screwing over Swerve and Will because
that was my thing. I wasn't picking him necessary to
help the Bucks. I was picking him kind of just
to be involved and costs somebody the match. So I agree.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Jesse says he works, but I do because pepsi is
a Carolina staple. I do not. I like pepsi. I'm
a diet pepsi person myself, but I like I like
back the old pepsi blue. Bring back Pepsi blue. That
was my jam. Every chemical in the world delicious.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well so is Mountain Dude, Mountains terrible?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Jack Perry, I can because yeah, but it's still And
I agree with Henry. I'd love the face check Harry
him and Kills. Just get that reunion, like emily'son wanting
and hellbout this. Marco Stunt maybe retired from interaction, but
he could be a mouthpiece. He could be a manager. Yes,
get a Jurassic Express. I'm saying we're going to get

(34:16):
it next year. We're gonna have Jurassic Express and best
Friends or Union. I can book it. It's happening a
way to say nice and now one of the hardest
now one of the hardest ones to book, the hardest
ones to predict.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I have a few questions. It's going into this.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yea good or bad? They have a few questions.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Well, I think that the Google machine was kind of
a little broken on its translation of what this match
actually is. So I just want to ask you if
the rules I've read were actually true.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
We've seen this money. So this is the match. The
casino gauntlet works where one and two will enter and
then in a few minutes of number will be drawn
that whoever has that number will come in the match.
The first person to score at pinfall or submission.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
On anyone winnesday. Yes, the match stops.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
So if there's if there's fifty people, if there's fifty numbers,
MJF pins Brisco and no one else comes out, it's over.
They don't come out.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
So it says there's up to twenty one participants.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, twenty one is max, so up to twenty so
there's twenty one numbers drawn. We don't. We don't either.
The nineteen it.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Said to me, is unpredictable for entrance.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's it's about ninety seconds.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
That's what I thought too. Okay, that was.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, a minute, a minute, a minute and a half,
in two minutes something like that.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, I did not see if there was going to
be a joker this year.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do we know joker? Doesn't there's no joker in the Casino,
Gotlanic because everyone's a surprise because we don't really know
every participant.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So right now all we know for the Men's Casino
gonlet is swear excuse me, Brisco, MJF, Mystico and Ricochet
are the only ones who have officially entered and been
announced for the Men's Gauntment. However, okay, you guys can
fantasy book this.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
So we could have only two participants, We.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Could have two or twenty one, like they've been pointing out.
They've been emphasizing, it doesn't matter what number you have.
It could be over, could go until that ring is
full of chaos. So, Jeff, who do you guys think
is gonna win the Men's Gunment and get that gold?
And what do you go for? Some surprise entrance or some.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Returns Okay, So for Rachel, she picked MJF. Kind of
hard to pick a winner without knowing all the participants,
but she said at the time, if one of the three,
because Ricochet wasn't announced yet, was gonna, you know, win,
she thought MJF had the best chance. Plus we know

(36:44):
with the Hurt Syndicate and everything, he's there, you know,
trying to get his goal and have his backup and
his power. So she went with MJF, which I think
is a pretty good good pick out of those three.
Throwing Rikoshet in the mix. I think adds a little
bit better to mention to it, because he actually could.
I just don't think he has more going in the

(37:05):
world heavyweight picture, you know, I don't think he's quite
at that tier yet. So but now for myself, I
am going with MJF or Darby Allen. I'm just throwing
a tinfoil out there so MGF can use this opportunity. Hey,

(37:27):
I figured I gotta throw the tinfoil in there. It works,
It works, especially with all this damn storyline and everything else.
There's just so many ways everything can go. But I
figured this would get MGF right back into the world
title picture without having him have to do a lot
of legwork to get there. But this would be an
awesome time for Darby comeback and get involved in storylines

(37:50):
because this would automatically catapult him right into that Death
Riders World Championship picture. So I think either way, though,
this is going to be a very fun and exciting match.
We're gonna get to see a lot of showcase stuff,
I think, but I don't feel like we're gonna go
more than probably. I'm gonna make a prediction of seven

(38:11):
people before when the match is over, seven entrance is
what I'm going with. So I'm not even gonna add
how many yep, I'm gonna add how many people are
even gonna be in the match. Maybe I get lucky.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I like it. Seven is a lucky number, you never know,
And today is seven eleven, which is Emily and I's
a lucky number as well.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
So nice, I'm a third, I'm my number thirteen.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
But it works.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
He was born the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
So also, if you're if you're near life seven eleven,
it's free squishy Day or slurpy Day whatever they're called.
That I call a squeze. Yes, Simpsons, but you.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Know, what I mean, Yeah, I think it's slurpy still.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So Emily, what would you say? Who is going to
win the Gauntlet and who are some maybe your surprises?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
So with m JF and Mark Briscoe starting at the match,
we know it's going to be you know, a lot
of trifling by m JF. You know he's trying to
get that quick pin. He already has stated that maybe
a low blow maybe some like I say that coercion.
How do you say that? Yeah, that big word. And

(39:31):
then the third entrant has the benefit. Will they team
up with Briscoe or will they team up with m JF?
Or is it an all around go at it? I
do not have Ricochet as my pick.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Oh sorry, Henry.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I'm wondering does Mystico get that third entrant because his
entrance should be as big as it can be. I
say he should have that because I think the first
three to four are going to have the best entrances.
Kind of wanting Brisco's children to walk him out. I
don't know why, but that documentary had me all in

(40:14):
the fields today.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh you were cut You were cutting onions, right, cutton onions.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
I was cutting onions. It was so bad. Okay. So
I have a couple of wild predictions. I'm thinking Bowen's
could come out. Max Caster, I think that the Beast
Mortos could come out. We could have Jack Perry, which juice.
We could have the guns Sky Scorpio Sky, we could

(40:42):
have Cedric. Oh, damn you, I forgot about Okay. And
also did you know a hand injury takes six up
to six months to heal.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
We don't know what kind of hand in the thing is.
That's like think from soft, small little breaks to full
blown breaks? Do you mean to rhyme that? So they
were saying saying Jay White.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
So I think Jay White comes back. But I think
MJF is going to win this to continue that little
path with the heartstond to Kit getting all the gold.
And I think that Max Caster eats this pin.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I was gonna say, you were excited all day. Tell
me you knew who's taking the pin.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I think Max takes the pin because it makes the
most sense. He is the one that can afford to
take it out of he tries to pin anybody first.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yep, that's probably what And I think many people there,
you go, good.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Job eleven people, Okay, my lucky number.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
So nice in the Gauntlet. Forty of our poll said MJF.
I'm going to get you guys, and I'm going against
the pole. I am not going with MJF here. I know,
I know it's probably the choice. I know it's probably
the safe bet, but I don't want to go safe.

(42:02):
I don't want to go safe. I want to picking
who am I picking to win the whole thing? Jay?
I'm agreeing with RONDI here. I think Jay White wins
this whole thing. I think he comes back.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Why do you argue the hand injury could take longer
if you were gonna say it anymore, I say it could.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Take shorter longer.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
But but what about that Derby?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I thought that at first, but I'm staving Darby for
a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Here, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So I think it is j White, and I think
some of my surprises. I think Keith Lee. I think
we get Keith Lee returned. It's Texas. He said he's clanned,
so I think we get Keith Lee coming back. I
think we also get Mike Loku. I think Michael Loku's
one of the surprise in the Battle Royal as well.
I think maybe we get a Hammerstone. I think we're

(42:48):
gonna get people we haven't seen before. And then obviously
the typical, you know, the ricochet that's been announced, the Mystico.
I do see a Bowens and Casterer and Mortos, but
I could also see someone that nobody was mentioned. Coming
back to the casino. I even looked down the pole.
Not one person has mentioned Chris Jericho could enter the
Gauntlet as a surprise.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Not yet, it's not his time.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I didn't say he was gonna win it, but I
could say he could enter it to a huge five.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I don't think huge Poppy was looking for.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I think he's been gone long enough. I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I'm saying last year there were twelve men in the all.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
In, and my number is I'm gonna go with Jeff's
lucky number of thirteen.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Nice, Well that makes me feel better. So there's twelve men,
twelve entrance and all in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yes, the one.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Where a Christian where a Christian cage one with Lucasaurus
is help or kill switches?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Help yeap no one, Yes, yeah, that'sought.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
It was as I have that awful cash and angle again.
That was bad because the reason why I think Jay
White gets it. Jay White was one of the first
people promised the title shot I hang in. That's why
I think Jay White takes it back at full gear.
He basically said, if you help me, I'll give you

(44:07):
the first touch. So J White's Hangman White Hangman history
in New Japan. You could easily build that first story
for Hangar. You could easily get J White back in
that title picture and with the Bang Banggang sport, and
I see Jews coming back as well. I think that
would be cool, like Jews coming in all crazy honeycomb
looking dude, run down the ramp, making his facial expressions,
play with if he comes back, gonna be a sad panda.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
He looked the same on the cruise. He did Okay, Henry,
I I think we've convinced.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Henry to change his answer to J. White. But I
think there's some good answers. Some of the ones that
everyone's picked. There is m JF. Briscoe and Mesico. J
White was popular. Darby was number two for write in,
but Rick so, I know Henry fricksha so, but four
people said Ricochet, So there was some hope. But now
the one that I'm confused on the moves, except I

(45:06):
have a real good feeling who I think is gonna
win it? The Women's Casino gatlet? Now the known participants
as of now, we know number one is Statlander. Number
two is being Tony Connon out today that thunder Rosa
and Athena are also in it. We don't know what
numbers they have, so we really only know the four participants.
We don't know the orders. So again we'll ask who's
gonna win? Lots of the numbers for this one again too,

(45:29):
So Jeff, who's gonna win the Women's Casino gaunlet? Who
do you have for some surprises? And I just study
it a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
That's that's okay. But Rachel kind of the same thing
with that men's without knowing all the participants, and then
you know the later announcement of thunder ros and Athena,
which she really didn't have time to process that. But
she chose Chris. You know, that's probably her favorite out
of Megan, and you know, out of her and Megan,
so that's who she chose, And I don't know, she

(45:58):
just felt kind of that maybe Chris is closer than
Megan is as far as to that world Women's World
title picture. So now we're going to keep it in
Jeff and Rachel fashion, and I'm choosing Megan Vain or
Britt Baker. I'm doing the whole, fucking, whole fucking tinfoil
on that one, because all her publicity lately about not

(46:21):
going to re sign and you know, all this other
stuff I keep seeing all the time about Britt Baker.
It's like, well, why is Britt Baker all of a
sudden so relevant in social media? Why she hasn't been
fucking for months now, all of a sudden, she's fucking
everywhere and she's the talk of the town. So you'd
be stupid not to fucking use her. So I'm putting
the megasis keeps her momentum going with her if she

(46:43):
possibly wins. But I feel this is a great opportunity
to get Britt back in the title in the picture
very quick. It would also dispel the rumors of her
leaving aw Either way, this should be a fun match,
and I hope they showcase some of the women's talent.
So yeah, I'm on Meghan Bain or Britt Baker.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Jesse's saying the winner is Britt Baker. I like that.
And then Elena Black Nice.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yep, she could do a one off at worst women.
I'm gonna go higher on the women because because there's
more well, I said seven for men, so I'm gonna
go third. Yeah, and I'm gonna go thirteen for women
because with there being more men's matches available on this card,

(47:34):
I feel like they definitely need to showcase more women
and definitely get them, you know, the exposure and the
showcase that they deserve, you know, because they've got two matches,
but in three if you count this, but that's still
not you know, not half. So I feel like this
will definitely get a chance to showcase more and more
of the women. So I'm going with thirteen women with

(47:57):
Britt Baker or Megan Bain winning.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I love it. I love it, And I kind of
know where Emi is going because she's been talking about
this all week because she loves these matches with Emily.
Now you got to tell everyone who's winning and who
are some of your surprises.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Complete curveball. I think Queen Amanata.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Takes this, oh okay.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
I think she's really been prominent and showcased lately. I
think that she's really rised up to the challenges, and
it's been a while since we've seen her face Tony Storm.
I would love, love, love to see this tappen, and
Megan Bain already faced Tony Storm a couple months ago.
I'm sorry, Like it's time for someone else, Like you

(48:39):
keep being relevant, but it's time for someone else to
chase the title. I want to see Megan Baine take
the Tag Team Championships eventually as well, so like that's
kind of like what I'm holding out for with her.
Someone that I think could show up is Shida Lady Frost.
A lot of the Tag Division that we want to

(49:00):
see potentials with the Tag Division?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Four did Sky Julia Hart? Yes, I like that.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Billy Starks Billy Starks to Billows, I'm sorry, Queen, Queen,
and I have a really wild theory.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (49:17):
So say? There's my pick is seventeen seventeen doesn't come
out Athena was number eighteen. She gets sucked over.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Oh no, that's not nice. The door's over here.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
I think that's not nice. What if Athena is the
last number that doesn't get called? Like everyone thinks Athena
is taking it, So what if what if she doesn't
get to take it.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I like your heads out, Emily.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Story coming into a e W. I had that chance.
That was my opportunity. Tinfoil me, tinfoil. That was the opportunity.
I got robbed.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
You just used dollar tinfoil. Hurt, hurt.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
I'm the one that gives you a paper cut when
you try and cut it. You drop it and it
like cuts your hand open.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, you're having like the little razor on it. You
have to like rip it all awkwardly. Doesn't have the
little metal thing to cut it. Oh well, I'm gonna
make Henry happy because I've said since beginning, this is
Athena's gauntlet to win. So Henry, Henry, I'm agreeing with you.
I've said this, I wrote it down in my notes
Athena and Cam has also said Athena is taking this

(50:25):
gauntlet the fallen goddess. Right now, she is fighting thunder
Rose as we do this show. I think she loses
her title tonight, And even if she doesn't, I think
Athena gets this, and I think she has that moment
where she's gonna have that contract so she can just
bide and take her time. But Athena wins this gunlet
now for my surprises. Jeff took my big one. I

(50:45):
was have been saying Britmaker for a bit too. I
agree with you, strike with the Irons, Hut. Any publicity
is good publicity in wrestling, regardless of her name is trending.
Who cares if it's trending because of Dirt Sheet's getting
it wrong. She's trending. Capitalize on that momentum. She'll get
a huge pop. I agree. Sheeta was another one that
I had.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
I would love that.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
That would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
So I saw in the comments too.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Billy Starks, like you said, But I was really trying
to think.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Like what about Harley.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I don't know if she's clear. I could see Harley
come back. They did show her on that commercial. I
could see her coming back. But there's just someone else
that I've been thinking for a while that we haven't
heard much of and would get a massive pop. What
are haters? Number three? You have Megan Babs and then
hater comes out? We don't, yeah, but we don't know

(51:45):
how long. I honestly feel like there's a lot of
smoke screens that come out. I think that whenever there's
news that comes out of Oh there's father and son
titles made, or this person has an injury. I think
there's perly smoke screens on how long these things are,
so people can't say, well, it's a six month injury,
so they're gonna be back up this pay per view.

(52:06):
I think it's one of those sometimes wrestlers are just
bagged up and they get, hey, why don't you take
a couple of weeks off? You have some nagging injuries.
It doesn't mean it has to be devastating a long
term injury, but I could see some of the later
come back because you imagine Hater in one corner being
in the other corner, and Statland are all three of them,
the three powerhouses. And then my last prize, Camill coming
at number four, and you have the four beastiest women

(52:30):
standing across from the with a holy shit chance going
in the crowd because you have the four biggest women
ready to just throw down. Also have to mention Wardlow
is my other surprise for the men's Gauntlet.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Oh forgot will?

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I think WILLI is definitely in there because I'm going
high to in this one. I'm saying eighteens. I'm gonna
go Alice Cooper eighteen and I like it. I think
eighteen is I think I agree with you. I think
they're gonna showcase more women in this match. I think
they keep teasing that it could be over quick or
you know number. I don't like that you said seventeeneen,
so I'm one up in you into eighteen because I
don't like want Athena to be left out.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
I think comes in and I want to for a
quick second, I saw in the comments Ronda. Don't get
me wrong, she did say she's getting an all in movement,
But what if that moment is her throwing a tissy
fit afterwards?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I don't want the trope. She's just so.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Upset, she's so mad she comes out out of the winner.
I just I don't know. I really want to see
something shocking happen with it to progress that if she.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Wasn't retired, I think she'd meet awesome and a rumors
that she might be signed. What if Gail Kim's not
sign anywhere just for a one off I'm gonna throw
some wiket tinfo. What if we get a one off
Gail Kim moment?

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
But that'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
It's hard. It's hard to fantasy book that it's hard
to book that in general. But another one that's gonna
be hard for me because I've overtalked this and I've
rationalized this to death, and we're gonna be doing wrong tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
So whenever this comes on, we will be here.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Kenny Omega Kasuka Okada five for the first time in
seven years for the Unified title, merging the histories, keeping
the lineage of both the continental championship in the international title,
Match of the decade, Match of the year potential right here,
the match that I am more excited than any other
match of this card. I'm sorry, I'm like Kenny Omega,

(54:25):
Mark Jeff Rachel, who's winning. Is Okada nodding this up
at two and two or Omega taking that three to
two lead?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
So Rachel thinks Omega is taking the lead, and she
also said it's going to be a great match. That's
that's the notes I got. I like it, though she
did keep Oh good job Ronda on that one. I
like that one too. That'd be a great time for
her to come out and a gauntlet for the women.
So now for mine, Ah, this one was definitely I

(55:02):
feel like the toughest one to predict now I will
say this, us as fans will be the real winners
of this match. This is probably the match of the
night and definitely a match of the year, probably, Candidate.
I want to tend the lean towards Kenny winning for
certain reasons, for some different storylines and because of the

(55:23):
you know him coming out and saying, oh, retirement might
be coming up. I got you know this time left
and you know this and that. But I want Ocada
to win. I want heel Ocada to win, and I
want him to further this storyline because if if Okada wins,
we get this again, there's got to be a clear winner.

(55:47):
So in my opinion, as a fan and being and
being and being selfish, I want Okada to win. So
then that way they got to fucking do it again.
Because I'm sorry, I feel like if and He wins this,
you're you're never going to see them wrestle again, unless
it's a multiman match or something that's not as important

(56:08):
our highest stakes. So the selfish person in me that's
a wrestling fan wants Ocada to win so that we
can have one more time of this before they're both done.
So I'm going Okada ditch.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yes, Emily. I know this is hard from you, but
you just recently watched all four. You've seen the matches.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
You can watch them with me. Did you know that?

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah? You can. You can check them out on YouTube.
You can see your first time reactions. But you saw them,
You've experienced this, You understand the stakes. You understand that
they know each other, knowing what you know. Scrainmaker, one
Wing Angel.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
We've seen tables, We've seen barricades, endless finishers, attempted, always
maneuvered around, never kicked out of. So here's the thing.
Did Kenny ever kick out of the rain Maker?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yes? Did I ever kick out of the Bombing Angel?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Omega Baby, right there, I think Omega, it's.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Not gonna be me.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
He knows he has to go quick. If he doesn't
get the match over with quickly, that's when Okada gains
his speed. Okada's more of like a slow burner versus
Kenny Omega, who's very able to get right in and
get it done. That's why Omega won the thirty minute
versus Okada.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I like Key and I like look at you using
the matches using their love it. See, this is what
this is why we watched them because there's going to
be beautiful callbacks.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Now, if I don't see a new Japan table, is
there a miss?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
There's a crazy part seventy Omega seventy five percent, Omega
twenty five percent. Okada on the Winter take on the.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Polls because there's just thinking what they're heart, They're just
thinking with their heart.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
I have him right here on my desk, which is
where I work every day. But I'm sorry I have
to go against Omega. I never wanted to do it.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yes, the Rainmaker.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Is going to reign Supreme because I agree with Jeff selfishly.
We're getting another match and they need to knock this
series up. It needs to be two and two so
that way the last time they fight, wait, there's going
to be a true winner. And Okada is better when
he has gold. When he has something to defend, he

(58:37):
steps his game up. The last time it had two
out of three falls, Okada got the first fall. Okada
pushed him to his limmy got sixty minutes. Yes, no
one's kicked out of the One Wing Angel yet, but
can you imagine if Okada kicks out of the One
Wing Angel. I'm not saying I want to happen. Can

(58:58):
you imagine if he kicks out of the woman and
he the first person aw kick out of it. Kenny
Omega would be such disbelieve. It would be such a
great story. I can't go. I can't go against Omega,
but I'm going to. I'm saying Okada for the record.
It hurts say but it's Okada.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I don't know him.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
It's they're setting it up.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
It's just so I mean, it happens, yeah, but the.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Raymaker takes it, and I think it's that story because
we don't know what the Continental Class is going to be.
What if Kenny enters to Continental Classic this year in
that surprizes he gets to face o'cada again, so you
almost mirror him winning the g one to face Okada again.
What if they kind of that's another way they can
mirror their history. Aw knows their history. They'll call back history.
You said best of six. I can see that six

(59:42):
match happening. What if it's Russell Kingdom. If what if
they run back home like do it to hey, here
you go one more time? I Okada wins as much
as I'd love and if Omega wins, I'll be happy
because I'm a huge Omega mark. I'm the first one
to say it. I have more Omega ship than I
probably know what to do with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, like I said, it's that selfish wrestling fan and
us that wants to see another match of this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
So, especially through you watching those four matches, just how
great they were, it's hard. We did not want to
relieve that magic as much as you can.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Appreciate you and we know, and we know it's just
it's it's coming close. They're both getting older, so it's
not something they're going to be able to continue forever.
So both of you are.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Emily's side.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
That's okay, that's okay. I'm fine. I'm fine with Omegan
winning too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
But this one is hard for me though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
This all the stuff too. So all right, starting off
with Rachel. So, Rachel has her heart pick, which is telling,
but her real pick is Mercedes Monet. She thinks Monett
is going to win, even though she doesn't really need
another title. She just thinks she's going to keep her

(01:01:13):
streak going. So but of course, in typical Rachel and
Jeff fashion, Jeff is going to keep it timeless, Baby,
keep it timeless. It's time for Monee to lose and
for Tony to show that she is the fucking woman. Additionally,
Monette does not need any more championships that she is

(01:01:33):
not defending on a regular basis. If Monette wins, then
there needs to be a very solid and well thought
out storyline in place for her reign, and then also
who would be next for the TBS or Heavyweight Championship then?
So I just feel like this would be too much.
I mean, we're already not seeing her defend half the

(01:01:54):
title she has, so what's the point of her just
hog and everything. It's gonna be a great match. I
won't say that it is going to be a great match.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
She goes to the other promotions, well, we don't get
to step in. But I'm saying it now. Monette does
defend those other titles, but we don't see it. You're right,
we don't see it. But she is in other promotions,
different titles. Don't be like the haters, Jeff, don't do it.
Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Well, it's more so her TBS not one. We we
don't get to see her defend very much. That's more so,
you know what I mean. You can defend your other
titles all the time, but you can't defend the one
that's on television. I mean our storylines and whatnot, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yes, he did.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
All right, So I got a lot to break down.
Oh boy, Ye, this match has been brewing for a while.
They said that Money has been traveling collecting all these championships,
and it puts the stake so high. However, I think
she's taking on more than she can handle. The last

(01:03:07):
time we saw Tony Storm lose a title, she went
on a downward spiral. She when m i A, she
ran off to stardom, teamed up with Mina, did some
stuff over there. I believe she went to Mexico, did
a match over there versus Catalina.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
If i'm clesing, I know she lost in Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Yeah, and she played her biggest role to date. According
to her, she played herself. She came back a very
different person, but come to find out, she was herself
all along. Tony played all of us. And I want

(01:03:52):
to point out when she showed up in Japan, she
had a little touch of red on the strap of
her gear, and then it's slowly started building up to
more and more. She had a robe that was red.
And now when Tony comes out a lot of her
wardrobe is prominently red versus the black and white that
we were used to seeing. And in movies, red is

(01:04:14):
used to draw attention to specific characters, give emotional depth,
and reinforce thematic elements used to address escape and emotions.
So where Tony's been very movie aesque, I feel like
this was just something I wanted to point out, and
I've talked about it for the last couple of days,

(01:04:35):
so I just wanted to kind of go into more
detail about what I've meant about the red coloring and
red hairring.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
So well, I don't know if I read Harry would
work here. But who's gonna win?

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Timeless Tony Storm, Okay, she's not going back on the Yeah,
Mercedes melt like Jeff said, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
So real quick, a little bit of news. Athena has
retained her championship. Thunder Rosa has lost to Athena is
still your forever ring a bottle Woman's champ. That just
literally changed my prediction to this whole damn match. I
like that you put the thematic of the red. I
like they put the symbolisms that it is true that

(01:05:16):
the red is especially in film noir, like the Dark
and the Dark films and their films, Red is a
symbol of anger too. And you said twenty one on
a downsfall and she not disappeared. Am I was the
word you used. Yeah, I don't think we're going to
see again. I agree, I don't think you want to
see that. But I want to say, hey, Jamal, he's

(01:05:37):
right next to Global big day tomorrow as well, but
it's also going to be a big day for Mercedes.
Just not winning the title.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
I want Timeless.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
I was gonna say Mercedes I Athena loss because originally
I thought Theme was gonna win the gauntlet and challenge
Mercedes pretty much right away. I thought we were going
to get the Jay Carr Gil Statland ending with Mercedes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Marceades was gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
It was gonna be this big celebration and an Athena
was gonna go out and she was gonna thrown her
in Texas. But now Athena's still further champs. That kind
of throws a little monkey wrench in my plans here,
a little curveball, right, So I'm gonna go with Timeless.
I'm gonna go with my heart. I'm gonna agree with
Matt that because you know, can go. I think she
has enough belts. I think she already got thrown all
those belts. Whenever I think they're playing the Seven Deadly

(01:06:27):
Sins to go with that nec, I think she's being gluttonous,
and I think what better way to serve up some
punishment than a good old Texas Texas apple than the
timeless Tony Storm. I think she retains, and our polls
are showing fifty to fifty as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Damn nice. Now, I do want to point out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Something, and I was wondering the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I encourage that, Okay, Jeff, gotcha. So I was gonna
bring something up with Emily's point about the colored red
and then her little deep dive into it. So we've
had her Tony doing the Carmen san Diego kind of
it with the hat and jacket red. Now you know,
I knew that and whatever else. But then after hearing

(01:07:10):
Emily explain of the red and the different meanings or whatnot,
it kinda also makes me wonder if she's kind of
showing her Okay, I'm doing Carmen san Diego, bitch, because
I've traveled the fucking world too. You ain't the only motherfucker,
you know. And then also, like you said, it makes
you stand out also like you were saying, and brings attention,

(01:07:33):
you know, and the different movie theatrical type things. So
I'm wondering if there's multi meanings of that color red
she's doing and it's very intentional. So and have a
great time, Jamal. It's got to be an awesome vibe
down there, man, so enjoy enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I love that you both pointing out like how she
embodies a different characters and mannerisms. And again I agree
with Henry. I think Emily has everyone rethinking their pick
now Emily's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Changing the word.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I already had my pick.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Alex mentioned it in the comments earlier before we get
to the meet event, and I want to point it out.
This has been I feel like we've seen all the time,
but I'm going one hundred percent the time this has
been predict This has been the hardest match is because
we can literally make a case for both winners on
almost every match. That's good. That is good storytelling. Now
it's good wrestling, and that's what I'm excited for, because

(01:08:37):
even this match, you can make a case for both
men that will make sense. You can make a case
for both men that'll be impactful. But it's time for
the main event and are we going to get the
rise of Cowboys shit? Or is job mosly gonna be end? Still?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Okay? So Rachel and still she has John Moxley. She
said it is going to be yeah, and look at her,
ha ha, She just commented you. She said it's going
to be a bloody match with a lot I know,
with a lot of foreign objects and a lot and

(01:09:13):
some interference by the Death Riders to seal the deal.
So Jeff and Rachel agree in this time. And still,
don't get me wrong, I love me some cowboy I
love me some cowboy shit. I just this is going
to be a bloody and super physical match that both

(01:09:36):
guys putting everything on the line. Don't get me wrong.
But how do the Death Riders, opts and the others
play into the outcome of this match? I would love
to see Hymn win and fulfill his little you know,
life and story arc he has going on right now,
but I just don't think he's the one to throw
MOCKX and the Death Riders and especially tomorrow, So I

(01:09:57):
feel like it could be that Darby, Jay White, Brian
Danielson or somebody like that that ends this. This story
will die. This storyline deserves a big payoff, and I
just feel like this is close. I just feel like
we're still not there. And I do feel like whenever
they opened the briefcase, it's gonna be a fucking toy belt.

(01:10:21):
It's gonna be a replica belt in the case. Yep,
it's gonna be a replica belt.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
So I like Henry here too. If Hangman loses me, right,
I'll just right my house. But I'll still do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I mean, like I said, don't get me wrong, I
love cowboys shit, but man, I just I love to
see his arc get fulfilled. But I don't know, I
feel like this could go just go too many different ways.
So yeah, I'm gonna have to be the weirdo too
and go with Moxley. I love Emily's face right now,

(01:10:58):
that mouth a gate.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
She's like, if you're watching of Honor, you know why
I just made that face.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
Every mask underneath the mask, just kidding, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Yeah, she was shocked because of you, and she got shocked.
This band, he has got an awesome headdress on for his
Engines gear. Dude, it was justly So you gotta tell
me what you think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I just think that it's not quite there yet. I mean,
I just feel like it's not quite there yet. That's
my only hang up on Hangman winning is I just
feel like it's just not quite right. I feel like
there's just something else that could be more. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
So you know what's going to prove you wrong? Right now?

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Mongo? Just Hangman one? That was a Texas Death match.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Hangman is four and one in Texas Death matches and
Moxley's and two oh and two oh.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
He's never won a Texas Death match.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Third times a charm? Not going to third times a charm?

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
No, not in this case. Moxley is going to Death
Riders to go away for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
I agree with that. See, I definitely agree with that statement.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Like, so, here's the thing this match. He has nobody
but Marina by his side for this because the death
Riders are all going to be broken and hurt after
their match out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
They're coming out with their belts there. No, I picked
the death Riders. I'm sorry, I picked a death Rider. Now,
you know why I said that earlier because I was
knowing the story.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
And then to go with the Bucks again progressing this
so if this match is later on in the show,
a lot could affect it. If the Bucks don't have
their EVP title, or if they do, that could affect them,
and then I mean multiple people could come out. I
personally want to say that Darby Allen is going to

(01:13:17):
repel from the ceiling. I want to see him come
back from the tallest tower. I want to see him
come back from the tallest damn mountain. I want to
see this man come back during this match, and I
want to see it bigger than ever. I want Darby
just phenomenally coming down. I want to see that tight
End tron or whatever, the TV in the background, whatever
we're gonna call it, showcasing his Everest videos. Yeah, the

(01:13:41):
Dumbo tron. I want to see so many different elements
coming into Darby coming down for this and helping Hangman
Page win.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
All Right, so we're gonna go to the polls first
before I give you mine, because mine's a little all
over the place, because that's just me, A big shocker,
I know, sent Hangman to twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Now you know why I voted Mosley.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
I understand what you all are saying about. This isn't
the crescendo. This isn't the peak the climax. What about
of INNI Windows tonight, Matt, Are you okay? We're now
we have climax. We've added that to everything else. But
it's I think it's Hangman's time. I think I'm walking

(01:14:31):
down Hangman because swear I agree with Jesse Sweer is
helping Hangman. But I think it is kind of that
Avenger is ending. I think everyone's gonna kind of go
together to take down the death Beats. You're gonna have
Darby come back. You're gonna have Brian Daniel, but you're
gonna have Sting. Okay, Sting is gonna have a cameo,

(01:14:53):
whether he comes out and just clocks some with a bat.
You're gonna have Sting, Brian, You're gonna have Darby. You're
gonna have everyone, You're pretty much everyone that he's wrong.
Copeland is gonna come and you're gonna see everyone who
he's wronged because Moxley is running scared right now. This
is the most adversity he's faced since Full Gear. The

(01:15:15):
only person who has beaten him cleanly is a hangman.
And I almost feel like, yes, it's the story because
I know you're saying that maybe the death arts aren't done,
but that's because I think there's there's still more to
the death art of a store. Because I think I agree
with you. They're gonna open that briefcase. It's not gonna
be toylet. It's gonna be a smash belt because they're

(01:15:35):
gonna have to have a brand new belt made.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
I think we're getting a belt something along the lines, yes,
smashed up, but that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Though, along the lines that has been empty for since November.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
So Marina carries that thing around. I know she's strong
as fuck, but Marina carries that around like it's weightless.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
And then fourteen percent of the people on the poll
said there's nothing in there. Some of the things that
people have said are in the briefcase are the shredded title,
the shredded papers from the bucks like wherever they were
shredding contract, nothing, the actual belt, a toy belt, a fake,
a brand new aw belt. And then there's two other

(01:16:17):
people said smash, which one of them was me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
So you know what else I heard designed for a
new belt was one that I heard, and something else
was an iou to do a throwback to something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Oh that was just me joking around doing the IOUs
like like, hold on to this one. It's a keeper
from Dumb and Dumber. But yeah, that I think. I
think Hangman takes it, but I could see your point.
I don't want mocks to take it because I feel
like I don't know. I don't know if the perception.

(01:16:51):
I think all In has historically been the pay per
view where a lot of the happy endings happened. We're
all out where like the season resets, I so we
could get the happy cowboys shit moment at all. But
then again, they could swerve you because you're expecting the happy,
go lucky moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
So that's thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Yes, Henry said it earlier, this is love you Day
because you change your answers. I'm sticking with Hangman. I
think it's cowboy shit time. His first title run was
derailed unfortunately for reasons. I think he deserves a battle
tire run. I think he can get it. You can
still work Derby and with this angle to two originals
who've barely faced each other could go out it. Eventually

(01:17:28):
they have a built in story. Darby said he didn't
want the title right now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
I think I heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I think he wants Hangman to get the title because
he doesn't want to go on against Box again because
the last won against Box, he he got destroyed. But
someone like Hangman, so Hayman takes it. I could see
your point, but it's definitely hang Man taking that belt
and opening that briefcase to disappointment as a smashed or

(01:17:57):
replica or nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
So that's some of the crazy predictions we have, and
that's some of the crazy boldness we have. But what
I am curious is there anything you forgot to mention?
Is there any surprises that you might see? I know
I earlier I forgot Wardlow. Is there anyone any surprise
or anything else that you forgot to mention that you
that could happen to all in or any type of
segments or anything that he thinks?

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Uh No, I think I covered a lot of mine
because I included most of my tin foil hats right away.
You know, I mean, like I said, we could have
the Jack Perry and the hook and you know, Danielson
and Darby and it's so wide open for all of that,
and then some of the ladies though that I didn't
think about, like the Camille one I heard earlier that

(01:18:42):
was really awesome, and that would be a great one
to see, you know what I mean, because she doesn't
need anything to all of a sudden be thrust into
this casino battle royal. So I would really really like
to see Camille come back and have a spot in there.
That would be one I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
I think she's filming right now, but I think a
little the most thought would be fine, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Great, maybe a one off or something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, I mean, just to show the world she still exists.
So I mean, yeah, there's a lot tom pack here.
I I am definitely excited for this show. You know,
thank you Jeff for coming on tonight and doing these predictions.
He literally did it after his softball games and dedication.
There is dedication on here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I'm in my car.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
He hasn't even got hasn't even gone home for dinner yet, Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
We definitely appreciate that. It's been It's been fun doing
these predictions. I'm excited for this show, so I hope
everyone enjoys it. Make sure you tune into our page tomorrow,
right when the Omega Ocona match, watch along live with us,
and then you know, enjoy the show at joy all
because I think it's gonna in the pay per View
of the Year starts at three pm. You can't say

(01:20:03):
the too many matches and it ends at midnight because
it's probably gonna be over by like dinner time. So
pretty much, if you're on the eas Coast, to be
over by dinner time. If you're on the West Coast,
it's gonna be over by like lunchtime. So enjoy the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
There you go, And I would I'm gonna have to
be a little late on all of that because I
got a softball game at one pm Central time tomorrow,
so unfortunately I might be playing when the pay per
view starts, but I will be uh watching it, watching
it as soon as I can. So, and that was
one of the reasons I really wanted to come on here.
You know, I love being on the show. I love
you guys, and I knew this was gonna be a

(01:20:38):
great show to talk about because there was just so
much stuff. I was really excited, you know, to really
talk about it. So and thank you, Matt, I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
That absolutely, and thank you very much for tuning in.
We appreciate it. Enjoy the show, everyone, have a great night.

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Thank you for partying with us.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
So from Jimmy Alga and the goodbye and night, goodbye
and good night everyone at your producer and co host
Mango here, thank you so much for tuning into another
fantastic episode of Cruising with Kfabe. Em and I certainly

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appreciate all the support and love you've shown us for
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visiting We are the undone dot com and hey, let's

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