All Out 2025 Predictions

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
And welcome to Cruisin Cafe about Bongo Emily, and today
we have our birthday co host.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Jeff aka Smokey. Thank you for coming back on Jeff
like always.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello, Hello, thank you for having me. Yeah, birthday was
good yesterday, so thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I was a good thing to be able to have
a nice birthday week and play some softball, watch wrestling.
It sounds like it's sounds like that's your birthday weekend.
Then after this pay per view you and Rachel get
to go to Dynasty next month, so that that's pretty sweet. Wream.
I don't know why is it Dince some pas? That's
the last one you went to in Saint Louis.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes it was, Yes, it was, and that one, of
course was amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
So but I don't know, but you speaking amazing. This
card is pretty fricking stacked.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I mean, we have thirteen matches.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thankfully, this is the first time we actually have the
pre shows talk about because they actually.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah correct, but still a ton Oh, thank you appreciate it.
But yeah, I was really surprised by the amount of
matches that were announced and everything for this. I mean,
don't get me wrong, I am happy about it. I
know people have complained about that in the past, but
I mean more people are able to get showcased, you know,
especially you know, since we're going to go probably first

(01:34):
on the pre show stuff. You know, I'm really happy
for that. Hey, that's my mom. Hi, Cheryl, that's my mom. Actually,
so Hi, Mama smoking.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't know if it's the thing, but.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh, she knows. I mean, she knows. Everybody calls me that.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
So I just thought the nickname fit, you know, I
think that's what it is. Gen X and millennials. We
just gave each other nicknames all the time, That's what
I mean. I'm Mango. I was given a nickname Mongo
in high school, so like, its just it's just our
identity after a while.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, but I am Emily.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Let's get you one mom.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Mom, that's Josh and Emily the one I use the podcast.
She's seen, like she's seen a bunch of the episodes
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So well, we appreciate that, and we appreciate uh giving
us Jeffson. We have a nice friend to talk to
that became family. So that's why we love doing this
talk about wrestling.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
He does all pictures and all that too, and scrap booking,
and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So, oh, I've seen those famous scrap books you showed
me one I think last time from the last cruise
she did.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, we've seen some pictures of them because they're big
old binders, man, and they're awesome. They're little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's the best part about going on these vacations are
the memories. You know, you get the memory and that's
why I think, like this first match here, we have
some cruisers right here. I know you probably usually usually
have the uh cruise smoking the details on that, but uh,
we already have some cruisers, at least three that I see,
So I'm excited to open it up that this is
essentially been teasing women's blood and guts. They've been kind

(03:05):
of teasing that. You know, everyone on the roster pretty
much hates Techla. Everyone on the roster pretty much is
going after Bean. So Triangle Madness has kind of put
themselves in that position. Maga Mains kind of put yourself.
So now we kind of have some babyfaces Mina, Queen, Amanada,
Harley and Willow taking on the trial of Madness Bean
and and excuse me, Penelt before it. I think it's

(03:26):
gonna be a great way to start the new brawl,
tailgate brawl, whatever calling you I don't want. I fee
I'm gonna call it brawl up by accident because that's
such bad juxtaposition. But I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I just call it the tailgate brawl.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I'm gonna call it that, I guess, or or we
can just call it tailgate brawl. I mean, is what works?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I like that too.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I like the weapons on the poster for it. I
think that it's telling on. It almost looks like a
hockey logo, which is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Which makes sense for Toronto. That would make the maple leaves.
That would make prefect sense.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It looks very much like a hockey logo, which I enjoy.
Is barbar back on fire.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
And then that thing for the hot dogs, which no
one knows how to use because I don't know how
to use it, little prom No. I think it's just
maybe I don't know. I used marshmallows on as a kid.
You put one on each prong, yeah, and you put
it over the fireplace exactly well before we go too
often to Mango's little as a kid using random tools.

(04:26):
I know you have Rachel's predictions, so I guess you know,
to kind of keep the tradition with what Jeff and
Rachel go first for their predictions. But who do you
think do you think the Faces come out of this
or do you think the Heels are kind of going
to dominate and still lead towards that blood and guts
or lead towards that that big match you know they're
having eventually.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
All right, So for Rachel's she is going to choose
the baby Faces. She really wants Harley to get the
win because she's really glad because she's been up and
coming and she's, you know, back from her injury. Julian
and Skyblue are going to keep going and end up
becoming the women's tag team champions. Oh what she has

(05:03):
down here. So that's what I got for Rachel. She's
going with the baby Faces, but the Heels are gonna
end up coming out on top of itchually.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I like it. I like it. I think that she
always kind of has a way she connects her stories
to make sure, Like like we were talking about Offer earlier,
we we all have different ways how we arrived to
our answer and have our feelings. And I enjoyed that.
But are we gonna keep that traditional live of Jeff
and Rachel being apart with their predictions, or are you
gonna be matchie matchie.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well, we're gonna start the night off Apo Taco and
we're gonna have I'm going baby faces as well. Oh,
I just feel like they kind of need this. This
will be a good thing. It'll help them. So it's
also awesome because we get eight of the women's wrestlers

(05:55):
all in a match getting showcased, you know what I mean.
We also have, you know, several matches is besides this
as well, So I think that's really important. You know
that we got a good showcase for the women. So
that's why I think it's good that they did the
thirteen matches. I love it as well.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So I love it. You hit a good point, you know,
featuring the women. You know, Emily's been screaming about adding
more women to the card forever. You've been wanting more,
so this must be right up your alley. So what
do you think? Do you think Team Good guys? Do
you think the baddies are gonna win? That's a terriboy.
So that's the bad the villains.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
That the baby Faces are going to win. And I
can see Queen or Mina getting the win here. I
think that both of them, just like Harley. Honestly, all
four of these women are rising up again, and I
think that any one of them could win this match
and it would just elevate everything. I love that it's

(06:52):
on Zero Hour because it really gets to show Hey, Jesse,
it really shows like the diversity of the women and
really putting on a banger of a match in the
pre show to showcase for free these.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Women ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
The fact that you're getting Harley Cameron in a match
like this for free, you know what, It.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Kind of reminds me of back in the day, Sunday
Night Heat. I don't know. I know you didn't really
see it, but it reminds me of before the paper view,
you'd have that sun Night Heat on USA, you'd have
a few matches that, yeah, Velocity, the stories from Raw
or Shmackdown that kind of bled into it.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, And I think that this is going to set
up like these are all the women that are next
in line for a champion ship like championship, whether it's
the tag championships that eventually come out, or it's the
TBS or the World, all of these women are capable
of holding any of those, So I think that that's
something that's going to be really exciting to watch the

(07:57):
stories develop with them, and we'll see maybe old grudges
being dug up.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
So did you pick the baby Faces as well?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of course I.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Picked the baby Faces?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, so well, the audience definitely agreed with all you guys.
Sixty five percent went with the baby Faces and thirty
five percent went with the Heels. And I guess I'm
with a thirty five percent because I'm also going for
the Heels in this match. I guess I'm gonna be
lone wolfed. I like, I think the baby Faces are
protected in this. I think you gotta give Baine, you

(08:28):
gotta give the Triangle of Madness that dominant, like not
over dominant, but they got to be a threat. They
gotta be something that's going to endanger these baby Faces
so they want to come together. I still want that
blood and guts. I still want, like you said, those
tag title runs. But I mean, I can see someone
like Baine dominating this match and it taking someone like
Willow to take Baane down. You know, someone who's going

(08:49):
to kind of match up to or shot for shot
and I can see Penelope Ford and Harley having fun.
I can see Mina and Sky and Mina and Juliet.
Like There's a lot of ways it can interconnect the
stories in the feuds. But I think we're starting off
with the bad girls win. I think the Heels are
winning this one.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
It will be interesting because Chris Statlander ian Tecla have
both been really tied up into these women. So will
they be out there maybe interference somewhere or are they
going to get ready for their own stuff? That's going
to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
We have a focus.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well right now, you have a well right now you
have a group of ten to twelve ladies that are
all kind of in the same group, possibly for storylines
because they're all, you know, And I think that's what
they're doing, Like you said, with the blood and Guts
and area, They're getting that interconnectedness between a big group
so that way you can go all kinds of different directions,

(09:44):
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So I know, I think they're doing a great job
of kind of no pund with Tekla leaving that spider
web of stories, weaving that web connecting them all. You know,
A lot of people criticize those All Star matches, but
look what these All Star matches have kind of produced.
They've produced these stories, they produced these rabbit To me,
it's no different than when you have a battle royal
or Royal rumble. You build stories off chemistry. Oh, these

(10:05):
two have great chemistry. The ry we can do something
with that. Like look at the reaction they got from
the crowd. I think people kind of forget that because
everyone has that like ADHD booking, that quick view booking
where they don't see things play out and let things
kind of play out. And I think that's been what's
really good about the women's division this year. And unfortunately,
poor Ramiro is gonna be up at three am, but
I know he's gonna watch. He's pretty loyal when he watches. Yeah,

(10:28):
and I agree with Jesse. This match we have coming
up right here, the Ops versus the Workhorseman again, another
one on the Tailgate brawl. I'm excited for so Rachel
and Jeff. I know you have Rachel's pictions. Who do
you guys think winning and kind of what are your
thoughts on this match?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I don't think she had this one. She looks like
she has all the rest, But knowing her, she's going
with Joe and Obbs because she likes both of them.
So oh, she loves and Joe, That's what I mean.
So Joe's going to Kulle, so you know.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I can picture.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Exactly. So yeah, I'm going with them, and I'm gonna
actually agree with her as well, because this one, I
think is kind of a no brainer in some ways.
But I do think the Workhorsemen are gonna have a
good showing in this no you know, pun and ten
or whatever else. I like JD. Drake, you know, and
all that too, So.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
All right, I mean, I do like the workhorse And
we saw them starting Limitless, and we got to see
them at DPW, and every time we see them, it's
crazy to see how much potential they have in DPW,
how much they are different, you know, in the indie
setting versus TV. So it'll be interesting to see the
match up because J Drake he's a big boy, he
can go with these two guys. And Anthony Henry he's quick,

(11:44):
he's kind of shifty in the ring, So I know
you have heart towards them.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
But I like as much as I love the Workhorsemen
because it is like friends when you see them. I
mean J D. Drake and I had such funny conversations
that limitless, to the point where I was like, you
get your ass on the Jericho Cruise and you find
us and we're gonna get you drinks. And then he
got booked and the next time we saw him, I

(12:10):
was like, listen, you find us, We've got.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I had a drink or too with them.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, Like JD is just cool shit. I really enjoy
talking with him. He plays it up for the kids,
even the adults. He played it up with me when
we were talking about the cage match he was about
to get into. I just really enjoy JD. Drake and
Anthony Henry is a beast. Things that people don't realize.
If you're not like on their social media watching them,

(12:41):
you need to be because a lot of these wrestlers
do insane things on their social media and the gym.
Anthony Henry is a beast. He's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
He's ripped, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah. I think the Ops are winning only because like
they got to continue this run, They've got to be dominating.
It just makes sense.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So I hate that it doesn't lean you too, but
I think the majority agrees with you. Guys. No one
gave the workhorseman a chance and this one fortunately, yeah,
including me, Unfortunately, I love the workhorsemen as well. However,
it's it's Joe, it's Hobbes. Like Lilian just said, we're

(13:26):
gonna see some cool nope spots, We're gonna see some
fun in those match. I think they'll showcase. But at
the end of the day, it's it's the ops. I
think this is the easiest match to call. Yep, it'll
be probably, it'll be entertaining.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yes, hello, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
This won't be entertaining. Night not from Canada might not
all enjoy this match. But a third meet up between
Shabata and Garcia.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Have you seen Shabata's matches. Ma's gonna be cheering every
time Garcia gets chopped the fuck but your chest is
going to be read.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
So what do I know? I know she loves Garcia,
so I'm assuming I know where this one's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Do the dance, that's exactly it. You know she you
know she wants her some DG. So Rachel's going DG
do the dance. That's pretty much all you need for
that one. So all right, well, trying to continue, it's

(14:29):
kind of wild we've been agreeing a lot more on
this particular pay per view than we normally do. But
this was kind of a tough pick actually, because you've
got DG going heel, So I really kind of want
to pick him because of that heel to protect him

(14:49):
because but then again, you know, it's like, well, Shabada
he needs you know, he's got a title. They're trying
to kind of keep that run going. But yeah, I'm
going with heels. I'm going with DG. I like you
with Rachel. I just think he needs it. He's got
to cebmit that that heel somehow, some way, or maybe
Shambada wins by disqualification. I guess I think something along

(15:10):
those lines. Maybe that I'll do that one because in
that way, that's shave Shabata a little bit too, because
Shabbata is definitely gonna beat the ship. Well, Shabata is
definitely gonna beat the ship out of Daniel. I'm just
gonna put that out there right now. DG's gonna earn
this one.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
So what do you think? Do you think that do
you think that Dane Garcia Red Death Red Death Rider
is going to channel is inner asshole and beat Shabata
or how do you think this one's going to go?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's really funny you say that. I have written down
time to see the Red Death released, so like, really
take hold of this persona and I really see the
Death Riders grip on him through this. I think think
that it's his first singles match as part of the

(16:03):
Death Riders. He has a lot to prove as far
as that's concerned. They have a pretty big, gruesome reputation.
Sony saying, yeah, like this is going to be a great,
great match. But the questions for you guys that I
didn't for some reason, I didn't think about this. Who

(16:26):
won the other two matches?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I believe they're split one in one. I believe he's
the rubber match.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I think so as well, because.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't know why I didn't look that up.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Title from him the second time they.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Find Yes, Yes, that one I remember too, So I'm
saying d G one the other one.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I'm like, see, we'll be in the middle, we'll be
to eighty five.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm eighty five percent sure, And I think that this
match is going to run into the main card. I
can see the interference getting dragged into the next match
because because.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
He is to me, Yeah, and you know mother everywhere.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, where's our where's our crowd split at on this match?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I'm going with DJ. I want Shabbata to win
because I really like Shabbata, but I think he's the
first opt to fall. I think, like Jeff said, and
like you were saying, I agree with I agree with Lillian,
his chest is going to be redder than a pound
of hamburger. I argree with Jeff that he needs to
kind of establish this heel persona really going there even

(17:38):
dominate Shabata and maybe be ruthless and relentless. And I
agree with you that Shabbata is going to beat the
crap out of him. So I think it's going to
be kind of a mixture of both. I think it's
going to start off with Shabbata kind of having the advantage,
but I think at the end the numbers and the
death Wrider are going to be what does Sabad and
Danny's going to because I think it's going to be
death Writers versus the oppostentially virtuosize But this time he
gets Pops, you know still out. You're gonna have Claudio,

(18:01):
You're gonna have Garcia and you'd have potentially going for
the trios title. So I can see this kind of
continuing in to Wrestle Dream not Dynasty in Saint Louis
next month, or you get that trios match. And it's
actually a little bit more split than I thought for
this one. This one, surprisingly we have six We have

(18:22):
eighty percent going for Garcia and twenty percent going for Shabata,
So there's some people who have some hope for Shabata.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I mean, I can't disagree with that hope. I mean,
like I said, we already know it's gonna be physical, so.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
And there's always hope with Cope, which is our next match,
say the difference if anyone gets that one. Yeah, this
is supposed to open the show. So I figured the
since we're gonna start talking about the main card, we
should talk about this one first. It's Toronto. It's I
believe the first time Ed and Christian have ever teemed
in Toronto aka Cope and Cage or Cage and Cope,

(18:57):
whatever you want to listen to. So I'm kind of curious.
And after this week where DA's got the old broken
nose from Christian Cage and he said, I'm paying the
fine because I'm rich bitch like I just I love
that you saw the asshole Christian Cage and you kind
of have the overconfident Copeland. But then you have FTR
who are showing a vicious side. So this one could
go either way.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
All right, So Rachel is gonna go with ft R.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh, that's shocking.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
She kind of wants to see Copeland go down in
Toronto for storylines because if FTR wins, they can go
for the tag team titles, so that way Cage can
turn on Copeland. Them two are going to end up
going one on one. I see a cameo of Nick
Wayne and possibly his mom as well.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh okay, okay, she's going for some of the deep
cuts here. I like it.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, I know she's coming with it today. All right, Well,
I uh, finally am going to get back to normal
and go completely the opposite way because last time I
went the opposite way and lost, So I'm gonna do it. Yes,

(20:17):
So Jesse, Yes, I'm going Cage and Cot for the Dove,
So now we're back to normal going against her. But yeah,
I will say this though, I think it would be
a lot fucking cooler if they did. Though. If FTR won.
I think it would be a lot cooler because nobody yeah,
and no offense. Yeah, and that's why I mean, no
offense everybody and all that. But uh sure, man, place

(20:41):
would go crazy. There would be some fucking nuclear heat
for that.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I was just gonna say that would be some heat
like that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh I like that.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
So Jeff says Coping Cage. Rachel says FTR. Emily's kind
of told me who she thinks, but again she's changed
her mind before. So Cage and Cope FDR because Stokey
gets snow bitches. So I mean, which one are you
gonna go with?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Sorry, Christian, it's Coping Cage. You're still just like not.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
There yet, fighting words.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, no, No, that's that like tenacity, that essence that
you're bringing, the overall.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Vibe, you know, disrespect.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Maybe I have daddy issues. I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I think that there's so much that goes into COPE
and Cage, and I think that despite being at odds
a little bit still, they definitely are going to win this.
I think that Copeland has so much to take out
on FTR, but FTR has a lot to take out
on them. As well, like, there's so much that plays

(22:02):
into this and I'm excited and if the waynes interrupt
and distract.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Interesting, I mean, we've got to set up that myself. Well,
you can also set up a third match, I mean,
you know, instead of a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
So it looks like Rachel only twenty percent agrees with you.
The FTR is going to win, and the rest of
you eighty percent is Cope and Cage and this one.
I have a lot of thoughts on this because you
guys are swaying me because I really didn't know. I'm like, well,
it's hometown. I love to do the hometown thing. Lilian
makes a good point here too, that Cop and Cage

(22:44):
gwim FTR be North Carolina can't rest North Carolina. Get
some heat in Toronto. I've always kind of been I've
said this from day one, all in happy moments, all
out kind of the season reset, kind of the crappy moments.
I can see them not in that feel good moment
and it leading to a little bit of tension. So
I'm gonna go FTR here. Oh yeah, my heart, my

(23:09):
heart says Cope of Cage. But I'm like, you know,
f tr It could be one of those things. I
didn't think of the possibility of the Waynes but Nick
Wayne could come back and cost him that match, and
there's still some story there and it could be one
of those things. And it sets up a final match
with FTR like another match, because they're still not done
because Cage only said to Copeland that he's only really

(23:29):
with him to help him clear up his FTR business.
If it's a one and done match, then what's the
point of the meaning together. So that's why that's kind
of where I'm leaning is I want him to be
gether than more than one match. I think the only
way you can do that is extended story. Plus, I
want Gangrel. Okay, I need Gangrel. I need my brood
Entrance one more time. I don't care do it in
Saint Louis for Jeff, but Cope and Cage brood Entrance

(23:53):
channel that dark Entry to finally beat them in a
dog collar match, or finally beat them in the first
ever tag team iron Man match something some stipulation. That's
what I'm saying. I like it went off the rails
that but that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, like I said, I I would love hard to
win because that place is gonna go absolutely.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And Jesse, they could turn this, they would go ape shit,
that place would blow up. Oh man, Jesse thinks that
the win's gonna be inserting this is gonna be a
five person ladder match, which would already be in Sandy
because we're already looking at the Bucks versus Brodido versus
Jet Speed versus don Kallis family. You have a Canadian

(24:35):
Mike Bailey, you have Josh Alexander, also from Canada. You
have Broddo who they are thrown together, but this became
such a great tag team. The Buck's telling a great story,
jetsbe just being fun. There's not a lose lose in
this situation. I think this is gonna be one of
my favorite matches to watch.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I thought that would be hilarious if it could happen,
But I just like, I don't see this actually happening.
It's like a fantasy world. But did you notice the
Bucks were out back with the prop people.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Well, that's because they were buying the pyro. That's not
going to connect to this.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
What if what if they had like a ladder that
was like an escalator?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, I think that'd be I think that'd be too
much to build that quick, too much, but it.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Would, but it would be funny. It would be funny.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
No, I can see them paying someone to climb the
ladder for them. That's what I see. It's like like
pay Brandon Cutler to climb the ladder. I mean no, no, no,
Remember on bt BT he accepted their apologies. You know
they walked away. Brandon's a lackey for money. So I'm saying, hey, Brandon,
here's a thousand bucks, go get those belts and then

(25:45):
I'll wait till my prediction. But I have some thoughts
on that. But Jeff Rachel, I don't want to steal
your thunder who's and new or and.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Still Okay, let me get to.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Because the alliance with the death Writers and Donkow's family,
there could be some hijinks.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah. So one thing Rachel has in here, though, is
that she says there is a lot of four ways
dial matches, and she's not necessarily a huge fan. She
thinks there may be too many people in the ring,
is what the notes she has here. She says that
young bucks are going to fight dirty, kind of setting
back and watching until the end when they'll try to

(26:28):
to pin some people and do some you know, quick
pinfalls and stuff like that. But she says, and still
she is going. Yeah, which it has been really fun.
I will say that.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I really love them together.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah excuse me, sorry, put them exposing like some of
that history you know of them working at the same
places and you know, being friends and knowing each other
and Stuff's always cool too because you can sense they
got a little bit of you know, chemist with that.
So all right, So.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Two for Brodino, I like it.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
So for mine, well, I'm probably going to agree with
Rachel on the particular aspect of Brodina winning. But I
think it's just because other people are going to get
cost there's more so whire I'm going. And I'm pretty
sure somebody's already thrown it in the comments. I'm pretty

(27:29):
sure I saw uh yes, there's been at least two
of them, I think now on there. So I'm going broddo.
But yeah, I mean we could possibly see a scapegoat siding.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
So, but I will say also for a little bit
of tenfoil, just to kind of throw this in there,
I would not be opposed to seeing the opposite direction
and him helping them.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Actually, I'd be a good.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yes in the Bucks could also go, hey, uh yeah,
I remember when whatever, Yeah, fuck you guys, like we're
still here, We're still doing everything, and now the chance
we're the champs. So you can't ignore us. You can't
short change us on our pyro, you can't start change
us on our intro because now we're the champs.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
It doesn't matter what our position was in the company.
We are positioned as the tag team champions.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Imagine the champs and Tony makes some were the toy
belts because they don't have the actual belts one.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Day, you know what I mean. Like so you could
do a lot of things. But I could also see
that as my tenfoil, as the Bucks actually getting helped
to win and like I said, sticking it to everybody
with it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So I enjoy that a lot because I know who
you like the most of this besides Jet Speed, so
I think I know.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Who you're going with, Jeff Awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm really excited for the highjinks of this match as well, though,
because it's a frickin ladder match two. There's so many people,
it's gonna be chaotic in a good way. I think
that ladder matches showcase a lot of athleticism and talent
that you don't always expect from people. So seeing someone
like Joshua Alexander in this, I think is going to

(29:17):
be kind of exciting because I wouldn't have imagined him
in a match like this.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I've seen him in matches similar to this. She'll be
very pleasantly surprised. I've seen him in a King King
of the Mountain match, which is a reverse ladder match,
so I think he'll be very surprising, very happy with it.
But you know, I was going back and forth in
this once for a while because I was gonna be all, oh,
I think Jet Speaker love a surprise upset because this

(29:45):
is easy way for them to get the titles and
get a feel good moment. But I think it's all
about the story, and after this past week it's all
been confirmed. I mean, we had bte Jack Perry mailing
a knife that he had been making on Instagram to
Matt saying for next time you want to stab me
in the back, to Jack Perry getting almost a tribute
by Matt Jackson when he leaves. Nick Jackson cuse to
be doing the salute after they win the match to

(30:09):
Lucasaurs turning on Kip saving almost kind of teasing he's done,
which we still think Jack Perry is went who resurrected him.
So I think Jack Perry is, but I would say this,
but not only Jack Perry. I think a certain dinosaur
also comes out to help Jack Parry. Because I think
Jack Perry comes out, I think they get ready to
attack him, but I think Luca comes out to make
sure he has his corner because I think he figures

(30:30):
out that it was Jack Perry that revived him, and
that's kind of where you get them back into that
and kind of their first match back will be the
Bucks versus Reunited Drastic Express, and I think that's kind
of the way they can do it because you can't
have the Bucks versus just Jack Perry Nope. So but
I'm going Brodina retaining. I think that's ultimately what's going
to happen here.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I want to, like bold predict that the Bucks are
going to run out of money by Dynamite. I think
that they're going to spend the rest of that winnings
on this match. Specifically, I think that they're going to
like have a ladder get set up, and they're gonna
pay the person and then they're gonna like climb it

(31:12):
because they'll pay the person that's set.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Up the ladder.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
There's so many different days that they're just going to
deplete their money. Oh damn, not one person.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, those are the percentages we have. We have seventy
seventy percent for Brotino, fifteen for jet Speed, and fifteen
for the young Bucks. Not one person chose the poor
Don Calisium. But I think we kind of know they're
the fodder in this match. But again, it's gonna be
on saying Heshiero is entertaining. I can't wait see what
he does in a ladder match too. Yes, but a

(31:45):
match that I know a lot of people are divided
because it kind of spoiled their return at Eddie Kingston.
But I do like the trust in Eddie Kingston. They
know that advertisers return, and I feel like people are
never happy. Why did you advertise you the people view?
Why was the people are never happy? Either way, I'm
just glad the Mad King is back taking on Big Bill.

(32:07):
We finally, I don't we haven't seen Eddie in sixteen months.
He's back, still gets some finished business. He said he
wants to go to Japan, he wants to go to
New Mexico, and he wants that world title. And he's
got Big Bill stating his way for his first match back. So, Jeff, Rachel,
what do you think? Do you think Mad King wins?
Or do you think Big Bill pulls off the shocking
upset in Toronto?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
So Rachel put He's back, makes her heart happy. This
would be a great match for Eddie to win for
his first time being back. Big Bill already has the
Cruise rub he can take to El. So Rachel is
going with the Mad King Eddie Kingston.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh, I like it. Leilan thinks it's gonna be some
highjinks in this match too. That makes sense that death
writers could be all over this pay per view.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Very true, very true. Well, unfortunately Rachel and I have
to agree. Unfortunately, he says, yeah, I just don't see
Eddie taking this. I'l being back. So I'm really happy
to see him back, looking for some big things from him.
So I like it. But this is going to be

(33:13):
a hard hitting, very physical I mean, a typical you know,
with two big guys you know, and two physical.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Guys so, and I think, like Emily said earlier, you
thought that there's gonna be chops from Sabada earlier. I
think Big Bill's chest is gonna look like cameragrap for
this match as well. But do you think the Mad
King reigns supreme or do you think Big Bill will
rule him?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think that this match is kind of an odd
pair up it is. I think that there's way more
that's going to go into it because it's such an
odd pair up that you can't have just these two
people in the ring. There's gotta be some shenanigans. I
think there's a certain someone from Winnipeg, and I don't

(33:58):
mean Kenny Omega coming good reference to see what's going
to happen with Big Bill and Keith. I think that
Brian Keith and Big Bill obviously have tension with someone.
And I don't want to steal the hole thunder because
I think someone else wants to rain on that parade
as well. Yeah, I think that Big Bill is going

(34:22):
to get screwed over by someone.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So you think Eddie Kingston with some interference costing Big
Bill to match, I do.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Because he ran his mouth about the wrong person.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I like it. I think all four of us in
aer agreement. I mean, just like I think check this out.
The everyone in the audience is an agreement to the
second match. Oh God, not happened at all. It's the
first time that we've had two matches. There has been
one hundred percent predictions and there's thirty people who participate.
If people are asking affects Eddie Kingston.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
To and I haven't put mine in yet, I am.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Choosing Eddie Kingston for the same reasons as you guys
all said he's back. I don't think it makes any sense,
even with Shenan against for him to take the loss.
I think I think that the end of this match
is where we see a certain champion, a cruise captain,
the demo. God, why tj you just made this way

(35:17):
a minute. I think Jericho comes back at the end
and he's disappointed. He's just gonna see Big Bill laid
out and he's gonna be like, see, I was right,
I'm disappointed in you, because the last thing he did
was flip out and said I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed, and
he's proven him right. And I feel like even if
Jerick was on his way out, he's gonna do the

(35:38):
right thing to try to put Big Bill over on
the way out, and if he's gonna stay, he's gonna
put Big Bill over. So I think either way he's
gonna be professionally, he's gonna come back. If we don't
see him come back, I don't know if we see
him come back to eat it, but I think this
is the moment you can bring him back. I think
this is the moment they can get accomplished. As two things.
It brings Eddie Kingston back. It's him that ring wrist

(35:58):
off with someone who can be safe and protect him
but also sell a good match, and also kind of
bring Jericho back into the fold for the last half
of the year, especially, you know, with some star power
kind of being down and a lot of people want
to hit on Jericho, but people tune in to see him.
Whether you like, we're not, people tune in to see Jericho,
and I think it was just one of those things
that were waiting to see the right storylining him back TV.

(36:19):
You can't just shoehorns one on TV and make it
work because that's not gonna always be good TV.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You can have Jeredo come out and distract Brian Keith
and they could just take it out backstage, like it
doesn't need to be anything big. However, it's Chris Jericho,
and the ego is big enough that it will be.
And I love Jericho, so that's not a dig. He's
just got a very big ego.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I mean, wrestling is full of ego. So I feel like.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
A problem.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, I was gonna say, if you don't think you're
the best, very very big. My favorite quote in Jericho's book,
if you don't think you're the best, if you don't
want to win the world title, if you don't want
to be on top of the world, then why you
win the business. It's always gonna be ego driver. But
I think that the biggest thing I've always thought is
can you put your ego side and do what's best
for the boys, what's best for the girls, what's best
for the locker room? And that's what separates professionals, and

(37:08):
that's what I think separates the sars is sone who
says my time has passed. I need to put this
person over. I need to coach. I need to get
the future ready, not become some podcaster who twenty years
later becomes bitter. So I think it just kind of
depends on how you are as a person. It's like
any job, and I'm excited, but speaking excited Ricoshet and
the Gates Magni versus the hurt Syneicate MVPs Lasen up

(37:30):
the boots. So we're getting at true hurt syndeicate three
on three against like someon you want to talk about
the cruise rub Jeff Gates Agne came on with Swerve
and they really really kind of after that separation kind
of felt by the wayside, but then now have started
to show their dominant again. I mean, look at last
week with toy Leona and Bobby Lashley putting on an

(37:52):
absolute freaking clinic on Wednesday, and Bishop Kahn, you know,
was a staple and Ring of Honor was a staple
in the Shane Tailed promotions. Ricochet being a veteran, so
there's a lot of knowledge in the Shring. There's a
lot of good talent in the Shring.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I agree, But for Rachel, she's pulling the me. She
just says, we hurt people. I like it, that's all
she said.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
So short and swing to the point.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
But the Bucks are gonna take or the Bucks are
going to beat them. Oh, only the Bucks are going
to beat them.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh that makes sense. Kind of keep them protected. I
like it.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
M hmm okay, So I uh kind of had to
think about this one a little bit, kind of like
you were talking about there with some of your points.
You know, I will say I was swayed at one
time to go for Ricochet and Gates Maggeny, but I'm

(38:51):
gonna have to agree with Rachel on this one. And
you know, we hurt people too, So I just think
with MVP back some stuff along though those lines. I
think also without them having any type of championship now,
you know, you can't really lessen their credibility and do
that type of thing. So I think they kind of
need this win here.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I agree, I like it. I like it all right?
So are there is there going to be agony or
people being hurt in this one both?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's very difficult to go against the hurt syndicate. They
are the monsters in the ring. Like, no matter who
they're going up against, they're still bigger than them. There's
it really is so difficult to say anybody but them. However,
like commentary has really been riding the fact that MVP

(39:46):
hasn't been in the game.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Like the ring rest because he hasn't wrestled no ye.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Like every second they can, they're mentioning that, so I
wonder if that's going to come into play, And I
really enjoy way that they're really digging into storylines. This
story has been being told since before aw took in
the Hurt Syndicate.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, they kind of bled in their richet awesome. Yeah,
they kind of went with their history with Ricochet getting
kind of recruited by the Hurt Syndicate and then getting
embarrassed in at W last December to Forbidden Door costs
them the tag titles. It's very good bridging they get.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, I really enjoy this, Like this whole time, we
thought we were going to be getting Cedric Alexander and
then we got completely swerved and he signed with TNA,
so kind of disappointed in that, to be quite honest,
But we had MJF join because who the fox saw
that coming. And now you have Ricochet getting back at

(40:44):
them for not taking him in and taking MJF in.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
And then with the latest rumors in Innuendo by Sean
ros Sap and Fightful, they're still looking to add some
younger members to the Hurt syndykit, and you know, there's
a lot of people on both rosters, and I think
this would be a good kind of like tryout match
to say, like, okay, let's see how this these three
can go against these three. It could be some scouting,

(41:10):
could be some potential to get other people to watch.
I think there's gonna be eyes on this match for reason.
I think there's a reason that they put Hurt Sinnicate
against Gateswageny. I gotta go with Hurt Sindicate. I just
I agree with Rachel. I think you gotta protect him.
I think the first time they lose, clean's got to
be a big deal because oh yeah, they're the Hurt Syndicate.
You can't go around saying we hurt people if you

(41:31):
lose all the time, correct. I think it'll be closer
than people think. I mean total, Like I said, totally
on un Bobby Lashley having that match showing he can
go toe to toe, and then you have Bishop Kahn
who can go tote to Shelton. And you know rikochhete
NBP are gonna have fun shenanigans because Rickson is gonna
be the coward chicken shit heel. I mean sixty six
percent of this match is lacking hair, so the bald

(41:52):
chants are gonna be crazy. Yeah they are right, is
that six?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Four to six sixty six percent, So there's gonna be
great bald chance. Shout out to bald bro and Holy
Shit podcast. They're there to supporting their bald man Ricochet.
But yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's me obtained, but
I think the hurts and kind just takes it because
they need to win more and Ricochet again. They're building
a single seed somewhere out of this, and I don't
know if it's against.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Veteran, so they're gonna end up. I mean they're it's
pretty much your veterans, young guy. Like you said, you
can get a lot of different storyline out of that.
Plus they're gonna help help put them over. Plus they're
gonna help put the young guys over to and throughout
this match for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
And that's just it. Like Gates of Agony, they're not
something to think about twice. Like they are hard hitters.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
You definitely can't underestimate them. And I mean they got
assist thirty. Give rickoche to gets agony a chance, which
is a lot more than we did. But I mean
it's wrestling. You know they say in football any given Sunday, Well,
it's wrestling any given pay per view.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yep, yep. Well, and that was better than those ones
that were eighty twenty right, so that one started getting
the hair more split.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
And speaking of split, this match. I was in Cleveland
when this match was announced. I but was waiting for
the stipulation. I thought Emily sent me a typo because
I couldn't watch live. She just went tables and tax,
question mark, Saboo, question mark extreme question mark. So I
looked up. Yeah, it's a no dq to kind of
throw back to TNA, throw back to Abyss and Saboo

(43:23):
and some of the hardcore legends of the past. MJF
first Mark Brisco and a table and Tax match which
MGF tried to get out of but Tony Kahan would
not let him. One of my favorite segments, I'm done
to Mike, Tony Kahan just bitching on MJF and the trailer.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah let's see here, Okay, So Rachel has MJFF can
take a loss, Risco needs the win. Bloody match, lots
of tables, tax and mjf's ring, and yeah, she has

(43:59):
a feeling Marks definitely gonna take the ring from MJF
sometime in this match. Yeah, he's putting risk O over.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I like that with
my heart. I definitely like that with my heart. So
I definitely agree with Rachel. This is going to be
a bloody match. Yeah, it will be, you know, and

(44:21):
like you said with Ricochet, this is definitely gonna be
MJF being the cowardly you know, running away, making this
very difficult, trying to frustrate Mark, you know, do all that.
He's definitely gonna take some a couple of spots though,
with some tax and ship definitely, I mean, that'll definitely
be a good thing for MJF to take. You know,

(44:42):
I've never really I'd never seen him really take you know,
tax that good or anything. So I'd like to see
it too, But unfortunately I'm picking m JF. My favorite
scumbag is gonna win this thing.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
He's picking this scumbag yep table somethumba. Remember the film
The Warriors. In a way, Mark Riscos is Okay, I
love Mark, but I like that come out and play
all right, So we got split. We got Rachel going
with Mark Risco, we got Jeff going m JF. We

(45:17):
got Emily covering Rise going. Oh god no, because that's
gonna be you the whole match.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I think MJF is gonna have some assistance here, guys. Okay,
So they've been.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Are you going to this idea home?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I am.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So they've been talking a lot with m LP Yeah, Maple,
And there's a certain someone I am done talking about it.
There's a certain somebody that has been in their mouths,
and I think that Hammerstone is definitely We've talked about
him for like a year now. Just show up, set

(45:56):
up some tables, pour some tacks out on them. Mjf's
gonna still lam brisco but Briscoe's gonna win. Do you
know why?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Why?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
He may have a newborn ninth child at home, but
he's more rested than m JF will be because at
the moment JF is in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It's right, he's fighting Mesco Mattress title mask verst title
match tonight in Arena Mexico.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
So he's gonna lose tonight and tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I just realized. So Mark Briskow has the exact same
amount of children as most Mercedes has belts, so that
could be a cool photo shoot every one of Brisko's
kids with one of Mercedes belts. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
He should wrestle for all the titles against her.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
And in your defense, Scott to More does MLP and
they do a lot with a w MLW is Corbot
It's okay, it's it's comical. I'm not sure. Yeah, you're right.
MJFF was just at MLW giving Hammerstone a pep talk saying,
remember who the fuck you are? Yeah, that you know.
And then you have Richard Holliday kind of really making

(46:58):
his name on the indie being kind of arrogant, and
he did his home like self funded promotion and self
funded match like put it on YouTube everything. So there's
a lot of meat to that bone. There's a lot
of smoke to those rumors. Smoke their fires. So you
could be onto something. And I'm gonna go MGFF to
get that right in the open. I'm going to the MF

(47:20):
I like you. I think Hammerstone could show because m
Jeff could use some backup. I'm Jeff has a five
hundred feuds going on right now. He's got a beef
with everyone. He wants a shot at Hangman.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
He took shots at Briscoe's family, including Jay. He's getting
a driller right into some tax.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I know he, like Jeff said, he's gonna take some
tax in the back, ass arm everything. He's gonna m
Jeff when he goes down like him and see him
punk in that dog collar match, he took some shots.
You know, he's been in hardcore matches. He can.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I just say that he doesn't do.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
It often, but he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
You see, I really wanted to see these two in
a dog collar match because like, but.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I think maybe it's one of those maybe they're going
to save it for another time. Mate, But I mean,
this is creative and again it's a no dquse anything happened.
But you know they're gonna cover that table with tax.
You know, there's gonna be creative stuff. And you know what,
like Jeff said, I'mff's gonna be scared trying to avoid
all that stuff. And Mark's crazy. You've seen Mark ringmanic catalog.

(48:18):
That man's gonna go through everything that that man's gonna
go through every table.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Like if Darby was in this match, I would be
so concerned for his opponent, Like this is something that
Brisco doesn't have that creativity that Darby has, but he's
got that like fuck you attitude and these taxs are
gonna be plentiful.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I also like that, Rachel, You're not alone. Twenty five
percent of people think Risco has a chance and seventy
five percent for m Jeff.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
I'm not saying that I thought most of us picked.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I picked them, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
We're two and two. We're split.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, we're split.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, we finally, but again, it usually.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Tends to happen towards the end of the shows.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Well I'll say this too. You're welcome because I almost
took your hammerstone.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
It's just talk about it. They just coincided on something again,
like it's.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
What we posted. You know. No, I was no, no, no,
I wasn't say like that. Sorry, I know.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I was saying.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah. He was at MLW backstage, and that's that was
the most recent thing. So his schedules and scene he's
filming a movie, went to MLW, going to Mexico, and
he's flying to Toronto tomorrow. I'm telling man, like you said, Mark,
Brisco with nine kids, gonna be more well rested than them. Jeff,
you ain't just whistling, Dixie, Oh, don't sell my secret.

(49:51):
And speaking of nine belts in Mercedes, that's why I
mentioned that next up the match. I'm not gonna lie.
I think they could have done a little better job building,
Like I feel like it was kind of a quick build.
It seems like it's a build to Mercedes next match,
but the returning Riho is taking on Mercedes for the
TBS title.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
What a hot take out.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I'm I'm not trying to I'm not trying to be mean.
It just honestly feels like they didn't put a lot
into They usually do a lot with their TVs. I
just feel like that this one they could have done better.
I'm not trying to pick on it. It could have
been better. It's being constructive, is being genuine. So I'm

(50:34):
guessing Rachel's gonna go with CEO. But that's just my
guest because I know she likes the CEO dance too,
so I have no doubt gonna be a good match too.
I agree, Jesse, I'll be great.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yes, So Rachel puts she loves that Rio back. She
has a little spit fire. Both our petite and can
throw each other around a little bit. Mercedes will make
her famous roll up move and then leave the ring
as always. And still.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I like that she even called out that she does
that quick little like the heel roll up it like
Rachel Varius stute. I love that she's very observant on that,
because that's that's a little subtle thing that she does
as the heel is that quick little roll up in
Oh my god, I retained.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
So well. I guess we're back to agree and again
because I'm gonna have to go. And still as well,
I I'm with Rachel and everybody. I think that I'm
happy to have Rio back. I'm glad that she's getting
back into the fold, so to speak. I kind of

(51:39):
with you on that this was kind of a slow
like a we didn't have enough time to get a
build for this, where I think this could have been
a lot more, you know, so I'm kind of a
little bit disappointed that this is happening right now, I guess,
but you know, this could always set up for a rematch.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
So I agree, and especially Ramiro's pointy Oh yeah, did
meet a big business when Mercedes debuted, but I always
they kind of called a little bit more back to
it because it seems it just seems I know Rio
can't really do the promo battle, but I feel like
they could have done a little bit better job saying
why Rio's getting the shot, which it is what it is.
I'm not complaining.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I agree through that, you know what I mean, But.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I know I had the hot take. Emily's kind of
mad at me for that one, but we'll go ahead. So, Emily,
do you think Rio stands a chance or do you
think Mercedes is walking out with more belts around the pants.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm also not mad. I just found it really funny,
Like ouch, Mercedes is retaining. There's no doubt in my mind,
she's getting that Ultimo Dragon moment. She's going to have
every belt that she could desire. I don't see her
losing anytime soon. However, as much as I'm not the

(52:52):
hugest fan of Rio's work, only because I feel like
I was so into Statlander at that time when Rio
was in the title picture, it was hard for me
to really focus on her versus her opponents. I kind
of rooted against her every time because I just liked
her opponents.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
More because every time she thought.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Something like that, like.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
There was never somebody in the ring with her that
I was like, not four. So I guess it's kind
of hard. And I think that this is such an
interesting matchup because, like Rachel said, they can throw each
other around, they are the same size. It is an
even matchup. However, Rio's fast as fuck, and I think
that's gonna be fun to watch, is that their chemistry.

(53:43):
Mercedes has really combined a lot of the Joshi style
with her own, and I really enjoy how different she
wrestles now versus even a year ago. The belts that
she's taking, she is taking in where she is and
what she's doing. She's really leading into more different versatility

(54:06):
and this is a good showcase for that. And that's
kind of what I'm going to focus on here. Yes,
Ceo wins, but I think this is still going to
be such a great match, and it's going to maybe
she brings in someone else, like maybe Rio brings in Bozilla.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I mean it could.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I mean Mercedes could bring Camille back and we could
see Bosilla come back. We could see the Renege well
she fired Camilla, yea true. We could see Robin come
out and have Gozilla.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I feel like there's been three things that we've been
forever pushing, Motasy machine guns which faulted out, the Renegade
Twins joining Mercedes, and the one that you've been pushing,
Wendy Recta.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I think we haven't gone to that match yet.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I think Emily is going to be for you. And
Emily is gonna be ninety years old. She's gonna be
at the Senior Center playing Bengals. She's like, remember when
I used to say I wanted to see oh. I think,
just like the fans went sixty five thirty five for Mercedes,
I think I go with Mercedes. I still think it's

(55:11):
it's just setting up the next feud. I don't think
we see anything. A lot of I know a lot
of people predicted on her predictions that maybe Britt Baker
or Shida come back here after. I think it's more
we get a tease of something. I think maybe there's
a confrontation at the top of them. I don't think
it's Mercedes. I don't think it's Chida, I mean, not

(55:31):
Britt Baker. I think it's who you said. I think
we get a Camille return at all out. I think
after Mercedes when she's in the ring, I think you
just see the lights go out and then you just
see Camille in the rings staring her down, and Mercedes
is like terrified, and I think that's kind of then
she runs away, and I think that's kind of how
you lead to the next story. And that's kind of

(55:52):
my feel as much. Well. Barzilla, I think is doing
something with starting right now. So I don't want to
put on Mags in the bass to be disappointed, but
I think she's doing something with stardom. But I could
see a returning Camille because she's been cleared, she's done filming,
kind of way to bring him back. We don't know
who attacked her, but she does and don't think it.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Gave up on Britt Baker. Guys, they're going to Britsburg soon.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, that's that's another If she doesn't return to Pittsburg
to we see.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Britt back, Yeah, that's what I'm worried about.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
But a match that it started out, let's just I'm
gonna put this out here. This originally started out as
a joke last year with Takeshta taking on Dorata. Somebody
made a fake graphic when Takeshta won the International Championship
that he was taking on mask of Drata, and even
Dave Meltzer fell for it, thought the match was happening.
He went to the show and afterwards he told Tony,

(56:44):
He's like, Hey, what happened to Takeshta verse Dorada. Well,
that match wasn't planned, but I would love to do
that match in the future, and I honestly think that's
what brought this match to fruition because I was shook
that Beast Mortos didn't advance. I'm not complaining because I
love Asco to Rata, so I'm ready to be entertaining
because all three of these men are fantastic. I think

(57:07):
this triple threat is not getting enough love, but this
is gonna be fantastic. So I'm ready to hear Rachel
and Jeff's thoughts. What do you guys think about this
triple thread and New champ Old champ shocking victory? What
have we got going on?

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Okay, Well, starting off with Rachel's here, she says Takeshta
isn't going to take the pin Uh, It's gonna come
back to a rain Maker versus Takeshta match. Okay, like,
so she is saying, and still so she's going with Okada.

(57:43):
Now this one, for me, there's a lot of stuff
going on in this one. There's a lot of tinfoil
in Shenanigans that could be going down in here because
you know, I guess, kind of preluding to later in
the show, we have Kyle Fletcher's promo where he said

(58:03):
he's cutting somebody so soon, and this and that we
already know, you know, Takeshta and Okada got their stuff
going on and this and that. So I don't know,
I feel like this one's tough because there could be
a lot of different things. Uh. I do like where
Rachel's kind of heads at though with that coming back

(58:24):
to that one on one, even though it does seem
slightly out of place Avndarada in this match, but I'm
happy that he's in there. You know, he's athletic, got
some great moves, you know everything else. It's been nice
to get to see him, you know, get to know
him and see him more. But like for me, you know,
I'm gonna have to go with Okada just to keep

(58:45):
a storyline going, I think, so I'm gonna say and
still as well.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I like it. Sorry, I'm sorry, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Oh no, you're good. This is a tough one though,
So anyway you go, you really can't can't go wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
So all right, Emily, do you think Takesha get some
new gold? Do you think the Rainmaker walks away with it?
Or do you think dods How shocks the world?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I have a weird question. What happens if they both
pin him.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Derata? If both Takesha and Okata by my rule, champion, routine.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Champion, That's something I could see happening. Is a dual submission,
something crazy, because how yeah, like, how do you choose
who's winning this match? Because you know that it's been
building for so long to see a one verse one
like a singles match with these two men has been brewing.

(59:50):
I think that we need that Ocada feud that he
is famous for. I think that it's time to bring
that back. We just had the Kenny feud end Potentially,
I'm ready to see a new opponent. As far as
Ocada's big stories are concerned, I think that we don't

(01:00:11):
need years in between. I want a big Ocada feud.
I want to see the rain Maker stand out, but
I also want to see him lose this, so I'm
not saying I want him. I want him to. I
think Okada wins, but I think it sets up the
next and again I think it's by default.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
So I think you both make X some points, Rache
make some points. I also think Okada wins. I think
Dorado's taking the pin here. Unfortunately. I think there's a
lot of teasing. You know, you have Lilian saying that
the don Kallis family is turning on to Kashta. I've
been saying it for months that Takesha's kind of doing
what Osprey did. He doesn't want to win this way.

(01:00:54):
He's been sending back the don Kallis family. He's been
on his own, and Don doesn't want that. Donald's all
the goal. Don's obsessed his white well as Kenny. He
wants everything to be like Kenny, all the goals, all
the championships, all the belts, and in his mind, he's
happy if he has Takesta or Okata, but Takesha's not
because Takesha knows he's was replaced by Olkada. He knows

(01:01:15):
that he was lied to. So I think there's gonna
be a lot of bad blood, Like Emily said, like
you guys said it's setting up that next it's gonna
scept that slow burd feud and it's gonna be indecisi.
And I think that's why Dorada takes the pin, because
like you said, you can't pin Dakesha and you can't
pin Okada. Fortunately, Dorada, I love you, buddy, but I
could see him, and like you said, it could be
one of those double pins, or it could even be

(01:01:36):
the old Summer Slam ninety nine set up where someone
gets knocked out and the person just falls like Okada
gets knocked out by Takesha and falls on Dorada and
gets the pin, and you're like, what the hell, Like,
there's so many ways they can play this out yep,
but I'm I'm definitely excited. I agree with Jesse. I
think it has potentially be matched in the night and

(01:01:56):
a lot of people are not given Dorata shot. But look,
it's fifty to fifty split Oh wow to catch, which
is wild to think about. I thought it'd be more
like seventy five to twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Okada agreed, because I feel like you gotta you gotta
lead with Okada being in the don Kallis Family bill
because the cash is younger, gonna be you know, able
to be the baby face instead of you know, oh
kinda needs to be the heel. So keep him with
the championship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I agree, And a match I've been looking forward to.
I thought they were gonna drag this one a little
bit longer the way they were kind of teasing it.
But we have Darby Allen climbing down from Mount Evers
right to take everything from Moxley, wanting to put him
in the ground in a Coffin match, and he's never
beaten Moxley and Darby is three and one in Coffin matches,

(01:02:48):
so it's it is his match type, but it is
a specialty. But he did lose to Jack Perry, so
there's a lot in the line. His first victory over
Boxley's on the line, his kind of reputation in the
Coffin matches on the line. We don't know what Brian said.
I guess I'm gonna have you guys include your answer.
What do you think Brian said to him? As well?
So what did Brian say to him? And who's gonna

(01:03:09):
win this match?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I don't know. Rachel doesn't know what was said, but
she's well, yeah, so she's got Derby for the win.
Moxley and Death Riders are going to take the loss
to death Riders. Of course, in her fear very bloody,
and she also says dangerous. But she also sees Marina

(01:03:32):
trying to do something. But her question is, and uh,
I guess what she's gonna see is what female is
gonna come stand with Derby. Oh so that's a question
she raised, which that is actually kind of a great question. Yeah, actually, okay,
all right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Mean, yeah, Marina is always by Max's side, but who's
been by Darby's. No one's really been by.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Derby's No, exactly, so, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Except maybe Willow, who's the only one I could think
of that would go up against Marino.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
That's the only one we've really got to see do
it too. I mean, has anybody else really tangled with
her since she's been in Death Writers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Pretty much Sat Leader's kind of been standoffish with her.
But Willow's the one who's really kind of like will
and Hangman and Jay White the ones you've really gotten
physical with her.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
So not many people think, yeah, that's what I was thinking, So.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Well, only thinks death Wriders are all over this. Cards
and I like it because it could be a death
writer infested guard, especially with and They're in a lot
of matches separately.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
And every and I think all their matches are somewhat
not really much for rules either.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
That's definitely advantage, definitely advantage for John Moxley in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Yeah, anytime you have the numbers games, so, but numbers
game or not, I am agreeing with Rachel, which this
has been a wild night. I think we've agreed quite
a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
So I don't like buck the course on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Yeah, I don't know if I like that anyway. But no, actually,
she's had great stuff tonight. I've been really pleasantly surprised.
So but uh, physical, brutal, bloody, I can't you know,
gonna be a banger. Definitely curious to see what kind
of crazy shit they try to do to hurt each
other and show each other up. I guess per se,

(01:05:22):
because you know, both of them are pretty crazy when
it comes to doing spots and taking some pretty crazy bumps.
So but yeah, I'm going with Darby in a really
good match too. This won't be matched with a Night
as far as you know, any kind of technical things
or anything else. But Yes, definitely gonna be up there
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
So there's a reason this is the only one with
red on the graphic.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah, definitely a little bit telling there. So all right,
So basically it comes down to you are you gonna
go with your heart your head on this one? Which
one are they.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Saying they're the same. I'm going with Darby Allen. He's
crazy as fuck, He's in this mode. The man just
climbed Mount Everest. He is definitely like it's Darby's time. Yes,
I agree with Rachel. It's gonna be bloody as hell.
As far as a female to contend with this, I

(01:06:22):
didn't think of this. I'm gonna say maybe even like
b Priestley, I've been really standing for her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
You put her in every mat.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
But if you look at her overall vibe, she does
give skater vibes. So I wouldn't hate to see the
two of them working together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I think could be where can start them too, Just
so you don't get too excited, I know they'rewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I just like to see the fresh faces. Despite having
a very large roster. Like I'm not trying to discredit
the roster that they do have. It's just one of
those like fun little what ifs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Well, if you want to go with it, she'll like
what I was wondering.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Maybe even Chris Statlander.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Not this match with Derby. Not this match. I'll tell
you why later. I think he'll appreciate it once we
get up to it, which will be next. But this one,
I know the fans are saying, oh, I say fans.
I know the people who did that participation did eighty
percent Derby, twenty percent Box. I My head says Box,
but my heart says Darry. I gotta go with my heart.

(01:07:25):
I can't choose against Derby, So before I talk myself out,
I'm going with Derby. But I could see both. I
think it's gonna be a physical, bloody match. You both
hit the nail on the head. I think they're gonna
go crazy. I think Brian told oh I forgot about that.
Brian told Darby I won't get in the ring, but

(01:07:45):
you bring him to me. I have a bag with
his name on it. I think Brian Danielson, you know
he doesn't like plastic bags, and he's in their cycling.
I think he's gonna get a little bit of payback there.
I think you know he's gonna get himwards announcedats and
I think Brian's gonna put a plastic bag over Moxley's
head and kind of like even the odds a little bit.
And I think that's the promise, like, listen, I won't
get in the ring, but give me that moment, give

(01:08:08):
me that moment. That's what I think he said to him,
is give me my moment. And I kind of joked
around on social media. I posted, oh, what do you
think he said? I just kept posting the Katie pay
olymic like like a plastic bag floating in the wind,
because I can see that, and what a great callback
that would be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Claudia.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
What about Claudio.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
We haven't talked about him yet, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Because he's probably gonna be someone that interferes, like Lilian
saying all the shn in again. So you haven't have Claudia,
we have Yuda. What Pop could come back? We don't.
We don't know Pop status. Someone else that could else
come back. I don't think this is gonna happen, but
something nobody would see coming. Who could be in Dary's corner.
We haven't seen yet. Destination uh known, Ruby Ruby, Ruby,

(01:08:54):
So it could be so much. She's like, listen, I've
been gone, I leave, and now we got this bitch
Marina No no, no, like or someone just out of
nowhere coming to save it, and like what again, it's
really out there, but she's been trained to come back.
That could be such a wide cut. That was one
of my that was my super tinfoil. That's my Reynolds

(01:09:15):
Wrap five thousand and the most tinful I've ever put on.
That's what I'm sticking with.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
I like it, though, I do like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
All right, miss Slamm the notebook over there getting ready
for the third match. I'm just giving you your time.
So oh and somehow I accidentally clicked the wrong button
again on Jeff, but Jeff is still here one. So
we have made it to the four way match, where
I think there's a lot of tinfoil for all of
us in this one. But is Rachel thinking new champion

(01:09:44):
or is Tony gonna still be timeless?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Let's see here, it sounds like she is going to
and still it's not time for her to lose. I
think it's going to be a big help for Hater
and ECLA to get more matches and to get more recognizable.
Poor Chris Statlander just hasn't quite found her spot. I

(01:10:12):
like her with Harley Cameron, their personalities mesh well, but
she what is it? I don't see Tony losing until
possibly Britt Baker comes back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Oh, Jesse got mine? M all right? I like it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Wow? Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Okay, Emily didn't see that one yet. That's okay, don't
read it. Don't read it, all right. So Rachel thinks
in still and thinks Statlander's just there. What about you, Jeff?
Do you think hater does whatever it takes? Like she said?
Do you think Tecla takes it? Do you think Statlander
gets it? Or do you think Tony retains?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
This was a very tough one as well, because I
hate to say it this way because I love stat
Land or two, but I feel like it's a decision
is fifty to fifty Unfortunately, I feel like, like Rachel said,
man like I said, she's been on it tonight, dude,

(01:11:11):
like for real. But but that's that comment was right
where my head's been at too, because I always keep
going back to the time one. I want to say
it was her second time she got seriously injured where
she was in that world title picture substantially was this
and that, and that really just kind of just done,

(01:11:33):
you know. And unfortunately, yeah, I feel like she has
never quite gotten back to that place. You know, She's
been really close and then just something gets derailed or
you know, with injury or other people not being in
the picture or storylines having to be completely changed or whatever.
But I'm going to go with hater, hard and new

(01:11:55):
because there's another you know, callback you know, ha lost
it without really having anything and whatnot. Like I said,
I hate Drouth against Tony because she's fucking killing it.
Like her promos and different stuff like that are just
so ridiculous that they're awesome. I mean it's so awesome,

(01:12:17):
like yeah in the window and everything else, you know,
but it's funny, but it's still fits. So I just
I really like it. But I think all four ladies
are gonna kill it in this match. I think it's
gonna be a very good match. You're gonna get a
lot of showcase. It's I do think it's really gonna
help Bechlo as well. You know, I think the other

(01:12:40):
three are established enough with ae W, but for her,
I think it's really gonna help push her maybe into
that next level. But like I said, I'm I just
for some reason, I'm thinking haters gonna hit hard and
win this, so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I like it. I like, I'd love to see hit
her win because when she came back last year, she said,
I never really got the title, and I'll do anything
that it takes to win. So that's something to keep
in mind too, Right, All right, Emily, decisions on you.
I know this is hard because you love all four
of these women.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
They're all so good for all this, like different reasons.
All of their like characters are different. Everything about them
is just so vastly different but so good. But I
can't go against my girl Statlander. I've been a Statlander
fan since she was an alien coming from Area fifty one.

(01:13:34):
I love Chris Statlander. It will break me if she
joins Death Riders. I am not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Looking at it like I just.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Don't want her to join Death Riders. But then again,
then she'd be with Garcia. Would that be so terrible?
Like there's so many things that go into her being
in Death Writers that I do love.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
However, like purpose my girl, I understand. Hey, I only
own two female wrestling shirts, I think, and she's one
of them. Grit Baker and Chris Statlander, I think are
the only two. I might have another one now, but so,
I mean, if that tells you anything, So I r.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
A race. So we got one for Tony, we got
one for Hater, we got one for Statlander.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Hold on, wait, I thing out there. So Tony has
already pretty much established herself again as female wrestler of
the Year. I think that there's no doubt about it
for contenders. She is the female wrestler of the year,
if not overall the wrestler of the year. I think

(01:14:45):
that it's time for her to wind down a little bit.
Maybe she will be gone with the wind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I like, where are you going there? Right now? The
John consensus is we have Tony Storm rating at sixty
going to Jeff's pick of Hater, Teklag and Chris Taller
only getting the other ten percent, which is kind of
surprising to see the disparity. So I guess I'm gonna

(01:15:14):
say Jesse kind of stole my thunder. So I'm also
going with Statlander. I think he hit the nail on
the head. You to fatal four way is no disqualification match.
Lilian's been saying it all night that the death writers
are gonna have their fingerprints all over this card. It's
been a red herring, it's been a swerve. She joined

(01:15:36):
the Death Writers a long time ago. That whole thing
was you. She's just trying to show she's not, and
her promo sold me. I was literally team Hater until
this past Wednesday when she came out and said, it's
been four years since I got a shot at this title.
When Garcia turned, he talked about opportunities being taken away.
She's talked about opportunities. She tried to make amends with Will,

(01:15:57):
and Will didn't want anything to do with her. She
tried to do the thing Garcia tried to do. Every thing.
It's a very parallel of a story. Statlander, I think
she turns. I think she turns on everyone. I think
she at one point looks like her and here I
think she betrays Hater. I think Storm gets taken out.
I think she betrays Hare, and I think she pins
Hater and that's gonna be kind of her first few

(01:16:18):
and he's either hat or teckle It. I think Statlander
is the new champion and she joins the Death Riders again.
It's that it's not a happy ending for everyone. It's
not a happy end. I think this is the way
you can kind of make it feel gloom and doom,
like now the women's title is held by great Now
we're gonna have another boxy situation with the title. I mean,
she's not gonna put in a briefcase, but she could.

(01:16:38):
They're gonna have another world championship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
To go along with that. Mango noticed something earlier this week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Yes, Marina is still wearing the key. Why is she
wearing the keystill? When the messiah of the back Breaker
stare down his lovely bride. I noticed she was wearing
a key. But you know what it means. It's tom

(01:17:05):
for the main event. I'm really curious to hear one's
thoughts on this one. What if hat Oh, that would
be a good swerve. I would like that too, especially
since she said she would do anything. See, it could
go either way. It could go anyway, and that's why
I love what the pay per view. I know who

(01:17:26):
Rachel loves the most in this match. I'm not going
to spoil the time that I'm into a light, but so Rachel,
and obviously you're just who's winning. Who's Do we have
a double champ or do we have Hangman retaining.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Well, so for Rachel it is and still oh Hangman wins,
but only because Fletcher is disqualified due to Don Kallas.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
So he loses the TNT title too. Oh goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Fletcher gets pissed because he loses and ends up leaving.
The callous family's talking the other direction. Instead of him
kicking out a person, she's talking about him being the
person that says fuck you, So.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Him over and that's what sets him off to like
to catch the screws him over because he's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Both of them leave. Maybe so then maybe it's Okada
left with Don Callas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Okay, that could be a good way, kind dwindle it
real fast. I like it start.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
It would definitely start to take the family down because
you're losing some more of the reputable per se and
title holders, so to speak. Besides Okada believe the train going,
I guess so all right, So for mine, I'm gonna
say this should be a very physical match that I'll
focus on primarily. I feel like in reingaction in a

(01:18:50):
lot of ways. I think they're going to try to
kind of do that. I'm gonna also go and still
so I think Hangman's gonna win, But I think the
Protostar comes out looking like a future world champion and
a future pillar of a Do we get to swear
by the DoD Kallis family. I don't know. I'm curious

(01:19:12):
on that the Okada Takesha and Fletcher situation. You know.
And of course, going back to that promo I mentioned before.
You know where he is talking about. You know, somebody's leaving.
So like it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
I like it? All right? Main event, m So we
have two for the Hangman retaining? Are you gonna go
Fletcher and new double champ? Are you gonna go with cowboys? Shit?

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
You know how I feel about double champions.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
I do not about anyone with more than one belt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I'm not a fan. I think that the TNT title
needs to be turned pink in Toronto. I want to
see that debuted, bring out the pink title belt. I
need this to happen in Toronto. Bring in bread Heart.
That is another thing I really want to see. I

(01:20:04):
want to see him during zero hour.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
I want to make him in the crowd or something.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yes, I want to see him get what he should
have gotten. I'm really offended for him by what happened,
and i want to see aew do it right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
He did present the first world title, the world title,
so it'd be kind of cool to give him a
whole moment in Toronto and be like, hey, we know
you're a Calgary native, but come to Toronto, come watch
him good wrestling. I think Brett would be up for
because he likes a lot of the wrestlers on this card.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Yeah, and I think he has history with a lot
of them in a good way. Like, I don't see
him getting involved by anything.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
I just again, we want that crowd shot of him.
I want that honor given. I want the respect given.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
All the different famous locals and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, but like I genuinely just want to see a happy,
feel good moment for Brett Hart throughout this night at
some point. Again, if it was with the pink title
belt for Kyle, even better.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Yeah, if he presents the pink time But how funny
would that? Matt would love it. I'd love it. Pey
Black always goes together.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
But I do see Hangman retaining. I love the thought
of Kyle Fletcher being the one to leave the Don
Kallis family. On a positive note, he is a great
heel however, so that puts a lot on him because
he's such a good heel, he's such a good asshole.
You want to root against him, you want him to

(01:21:26):
get punched in the face. Let's face with Kyle, give
him a monster, he's going to punch some drive.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Say his full name, the proto star tn T champion,
Kyle Fletcher.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Well he's young and cocky, I mean, and he's in
good shape. And you know, I'm not bad looking dude,
So like shit, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
That early and a lot of people compared to the
rand Yorton run. But it's very similar, very simiar path.
Young stud coming up through the ranks, muscular, has the
president's good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Heel, Well heels easier to for him, it is. It's
much easier to talk ship and throw out the old
you know they say, the old cheap pop, get the
old cheap beat. Oh this is the worst fucking town.
This is you know, you're fucking no Saint Louis Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Yeah, dressing the black, make it up, make it dress
in the pancya.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Aren't they going back to Australia kind of soon?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
February?

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Not too soon, but I could see him retaining until then.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
No, very well, I also am gonna go with Hangman.
I think Hangman retains. I think it's too early for
him to drop the title. He hasn't really had that
few that someone takes it off him, yet, I do
like it. The media call and Kon cleared up that
this was always the direction that even though Warlow got hurt,
that was put out that was incorrect. So I'm glad
because a lot of people kind of crapped on Kyle
agu it's a thrown together match, and I like that

(01:22:43):
this is obviously direction and based on how they told
the story and Kyle taking out Omega and then Kyle
taking out Hangman and becoming the face. Earlier, I said
that it's kind of like tell of a show. This
this is the season premiere, you know, typically all in
like the season finale. This is like the new season.
You know, we have the new villain started. Kyle Fletcher's
kind of like the new season's villain. He's that person

(01:23:05):
that's gonna be a thorn in everyone's side. I do
think hey Man wins, and I think he potentially could
get cost. Fletcher could get cost the match because of
Mark Davis, and that's kind of what I've been leaning
on a little while. Is that Mark Davis reluctantly joined
the don Kyllis family because Fletcher and he had to
choose between Osprey and Fletcher. But he still blames Ospray

(01:23:26):
for bringing Fletcher into it and kind of breaking up
the United Empire, but then he kind of got left
on his own by Fletcher. So I still think there's
some ill will. And he's been mentioning him a lot
in interviews. He's brought up him, and I know the
rumors are that, you know, Mark Davis could be healed,
he could be ready to go, So what better next
storyline to set up them? Maybe what if he costs
him the title and then they have to set up

(01:23:48):
some sort of term and Kyle has to win it back.
You could easily do that where he has to win
it back and Mark Davis is kind of like that
stone in his path that he's got to get by.
That would set up more attention. And there's that memory
he kicks out, because one thinks t to Kesha is
gonna be that person get kicked out, but the first
person could be Mark Davis, Like you've changed when I
was out, you're my brother. You didn't call me you

(01:24:09):
didn't check me. All you cared about was winning that
stupid title. I could easily see that being the next
story and easily keep it that way. It kind of
protects Fletcher in the laws, it kind of it kind
of protects Hangman and I think it's a good kind
of way and the show because what a shocking moment
to see Mark Davis come back and you finally get
that match that they've been teasing. That tension has been
there for a while. So that's kind of how I

(01:24:30):
think it's gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
We needed another beef match.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Beef, I mean, Jack Kingkson a big bill, will be pretty,
will be pretty beefy. Oh yeah yeah, but yeah, so
those those are our predictions. I know we kind of
went a little long night, but it's the thirteen match
cards kind.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Of figured and again that complaining we're paying for this,
give us the money. Also, if you're watching on HBO Max,
you get a discount. I think that that's awesome. I
hope that continues. I think their first ever Max pay
per view is going to be great.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
It's been advertised on Amazon Primes, advertised during Thursday Night
Football when I was watching the Dolphins get destroyed by
the Bills. They had a spot featuring Adam Copeland, so
it was kind of cool. It's like, it's cool to
see it mainstream. And you know, last year when Dynasty appens,
swerved throughout the first pitch of the Cardinals. It's nice
to see them get out there more. I had to
wrap your team for you, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
I appreciate it. But yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I thought
that was awesome whenever they did that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
No, I and I appreciate everyone. Tune in tonight. Make
sure you like, subscribe, follow us, give us all that feedback,
you know, all that jazz, five star fucks, splash of review.
Hope you guys enjoy All Out. Let us know what
you think about the show it. Stay tuned Sunday for
our review and recap of All Out. Excited to watch
it tomorrow. We'll try to spell you in the chat, Jeff,
because we know you have some other plans votes on

(01:25:52):
because it is a three o'clock show. But hopefully everyone
enjoys the show, has a great time, have a great weekend,
and remember always keep you. I must beat you at
you good bye, good not bad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
But again, thank you for partying with us back. It's
good to you late, I must beat you too.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
So from keny Orega and Rehol, goodbye to me and good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Night, goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
And good night Bank

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