Orange Cassidy: From Chill to Champion

How wrestling’s most unbothered character became AEW’s most reliable performer.

Orange Cassidy went from barely trying to being AEW’s most reliable champion. In this episode, we take you through the feuds, matches, and promos that show how his “sloth style” became a winning formula. We talk about the way his stories often start with him on the losing end, how he uses that to his advantage, and how his evolution mirrors his character perfectly. From his early AEW days to the International Title run, this is the complete breakdown of how wrestling’s most unbothered character became a main event player.


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:42):
And welcome to Cruise O Cafe. About Bongo and today
we're talking about whatever, ye whoever? What is he? Why?
That's right? So we're talking about freshly squeezed Orange Cassidy.
So today we decided we wanted to talk about an episode,
and today we're talking about Orange Cassidy from chill to Champion,

(01:04):
one of.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Our favorite champions. I think that he for a lot
of reasons. But the what is it called now the
Unified title?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, now it's the Unified title. Stupid name by the way,
Uh yes, but he.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Put the title on the map when it was the
International National.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I know, it started as the All Atlantic and then
it went to the International. Now it's the Unified. I'm
sure eventually it will change, but what doesn't change is
essentially our admiration of Orage Cassidy. I mean, his style
goes from lazy to energetic, and he just he makes
everything looks so easy. It's so lazy but so cool
at the same time. So he gets a lot of

(01:44):
unfair criticisms, but I've always wanted to know, how can
someone get so over doing less? And he really proved that.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I mean he's been wrestling since two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's crazy think that twenty one years he's been in
the business. And when we were doing research of this episode,
one of the cool things I found out he's a
freaking architect in real life. So like all these little
drawings like you see in our background or his Titan
Shoum with the laziest stick figure drawings, the dude probably
can draw for real, so literally, so I want to
point out all the people who say he can't draw,

(02:16):
like Jim Cornett. He can. Oh, come on, I had
to put that one in. I had to put that
one in there. But I mean, let's say, I mean
one of the original titles I have this episode was
from Mean to Main Event because honestly, I don't think
he got his flowers and I wanted to give him
his flowers this episode.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's really disheartening to hear the criticisms given to somebody
that is truly changing how wrestling is done and seen.
I think that Orange Cassidy has developed this different style,
different technique that's eye catching. And again, like I didn't
know what comedy wrestling was before AEW, I didn't understand

(02:56):
what a comedy wrestler was. Through WWE, they do the.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Same they didn't do the same approach. Yes, yes, so like.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Coming into aw in twenty nineteen and seeing the things
that were being done in the ring. Obviously, I've gone
back through. I've watched other matches of Orange Cassidy, and
I'm excited to talk about some of those.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, and I mean, we didn't get to see his
indie run, but we're gonna start there because that's really
where he developed his personality. His gimmick is style and
live and we have gone.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Back through and watched so much of it, just like
you guys should too. There's so much to see and
so much to really gravitate to and to really truly
understand the Slock style, you have to go back through
and really travel.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And what I enjoy is you'll see him with another
renowned comedy wrestle, like Colt Cabana, you know, doing like
the world's slowest chops. He's going like a mile an
hour and just lazy chops. And then you have serious
wrestlers and he's doing it and they're like, what is
going on? You have one point where someone puts him
to sleep and is rocking him like a baby, and

(04:05):
that you have him at Priscilla Kelly swapping outfits where
he comes out dressed up in her like goth style,
and then you have her dressing up essentially in the
what do you call that, like the jean jacket, Canadian tuxedo.
I don't know what name we're having for that here.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
The Canadian tuxedo works despite being Canadian.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
No, he was actually born in the Jersey phillyre. I
don't remember exactly which one, but from Jersey, the Northeast
definitely pumps out a lot of talented wrestlers. And you know,
from when he first started, like he said back in
two thousand and four, he started working in Chikara as
the fire Ant, which was allegially him and he was
known for like the high flying fun aspects. And it's

(04:47):
funny going back knowing how he wrestles today and seeing
him as the fire ant. There are almost two different
styles of ringwork.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
He found himself truly over the years. And let's talk
about the fire a.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
What do you want to talk about Cody Rhods get it.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean, you have such diverse training behind him.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean, and Mike Quackenbusho's one of the legends of
the industry. Training him and for Heiro Chris Hero who
if you don't know who Crissiro is, he's a legend
of Ring of Honor, had a cup of coffee and
nxts Cassius ono for a while. But he really was
instrumental in getting people ready in Ring of Honor and
getting kind of them TV ready, helping them develop their gimmicks.

(05:32):
So I think he really helped out with Orange Cassidy
kind of developing the skills and he would kind of
grow and go into beyond wrestling at GCW and PWG,
which PWG was kind of where he really discovered himself.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes, and let's not forget Skaed and Brian Wenzel also
helped train Orange Cassidy and now he trains other people
since twenty.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Thirteen, and he really does get it. If you go
back and watch some of his earlier documentaries before he's
in aw there's a lot of good. I like fifteen
twenty Men documentary, he's explaining his character where if he
just he wanted to try something and he just does
it so like if he thinks something's funny, he'll do
it on the moment, like he doesn't pre plan. All right,
I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna slap him

(06:13):
real lazy, and then I'm gonna smile at him. He
just he feels the crowd, he feels the moment, and
a lot of wrestlers say the same thing over the years.
I didn't get it until I got in the ring
with him, or I didn't get it until I watched
his match. And that's kind of the theme of this
whole episode is people start to get it. It starts
to click. Once you understand what he's doing in the ring,
it makes sense. And I think that's why he's connected

(06:35):
with the audience in such a way as because it's
almost like that light bulb, like once you get it,
you're like, oh, oh, this is good shit, this is
great stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And it clearly caught on like fire.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
And it really did because he got noticed by Nick
and Matt Jackson, you know, obviously from his work in PWG.
They were adamant to get him AW before AW was
even a thing. There was interviews where they were talking
about post all in. They really liked that Orange Cassidy guy.
And one of the things I enjoy is doing a

(07:11):
deep dive in this Cody Rhodes has an interview where
he talks about he wasn't really sold in Orange Cassidy
and that when Matt Nick came up to him and
they're like, hey, we have this guy, he puts his
hands in his pockets. He does these lazy kicks. He
was like, okay, but make sure you're behind him. I
don't get it. But Cody then says, once he saw
the ham Matt Double or Nothing twenty nineteen, once he
saw the reaction, he started to get it. And I

(07:33):
liked that he had a doubter every step of the
way and he proved them wrong every time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean he went on to face Cody in the
first ever lumber Draft match. But before that, right, I'm
getting way too far ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that's okay because we're gonna start with double or Nothing,
because that's when myself, Emily and most of the world's
got to see who Orange Cassidy was.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
But I do want to point out before he was
in aw he was two time Independent Wrestling Champion for.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
IWTV, same as Warhorse. That's a pretty prestigious IWTV.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
When you look at IWTV, they don't just pick anybody.
I'll put it that way. Chris Statlanders also won. So
it's one of those titles that it's big and it
means something when they get that.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's kind of like the television title for the for
independent wrestling, which is nice. It's their streaming service and
they put it on people who kind of are connecting
with the crowd and really can bring eyes to the
products where they go, whether it's Beyond, whether it's Shaikara,
whether it's Limitless, whether it's any of these independent organizations.
And again that's how he kind of got his name
out there. And you know, he wasn't officially signed at

(08:42):
Double or Nothing twenty nineteen, but they kind of brought
him in the Battle Royals. That was like a big
audition for a lot of the wrestlers that would become
either aw eventually in the future or it would be
wrestlers who would get more I'm trying to think of
the word here exposure later on. So you have Double

(09:04):
I think twenty nineteen, you have the Battle Well, my
favorite moment, Tommy Dreamer sees him, doesn't know what to think.
Now you have Tommy Dreamer, who's the hardcore East w
legend who has been wrestling in Bingo halls and arenas
and around the world and some of the most crazy
hardcore matches. And then he has this guy come up
to him with a jean jacket on jeans and he
starts doing his little lazy kicks and he has no

(09:26):
idea what to think. And then he pushes him down
and he keeps up with his hands in his pockets,
and just from that short little interaction, the crowd absolutely
lost her mind, just like we did. I remember going,
what the hell is.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
This guy like this and knowing how hard it is
to do a standard kip up.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
To imagine with his hands in his pockets, that's a.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Lot of what your force is.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
So to all core strength, yees.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Exactly like his core muscles. Everything about him is completely
not lazy.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And that's the thing his his gimmick is lazy slostyle.
He works hard to make it look lazy, but it
takes more strength to do it. Like you said, your
core strength with you a kip up. I mean, I'm
not certainly in a shape to do a kip up,
but you kind of start. You have to use your
hands at the beginning, almost like a back handspring, to
push yourself up, and then you kind of transition with
just your hands, so he went further instead of you
not having his hands here, he put him in his pocket.

(10:19):
So he's he's relying on his entire core and leg
muscles to jump up, and he does it flawlessly, always
that little smirk, and it just it's what sold me
on him, was just how fluid he was in the ring,
how funny was and I was disappointed because we didn't
hear anything about him after. But then you know, he

(10:40):
would go on the indies and as you would mention
Wressel Kan twenty nineteen, during Wrestlemingia weekend, there would be
a major, major team up that would kind of shape
the foundation of wrestling.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, the best friends would join together in twenty nineteen
at Wressel Khan in New York City against.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
SCU, which is fantastic because again it's kind of like
another way, and I know it takes place a little
for whim. It was kind of way they were kind
of testing what they had. But you have Chuck, e
t and Trent, who are PWG legends, you know, teaming
up with this newcomer, not knowing they were going to
create not newcomer, but create magic.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Together they'd work together offensively for years, so they have
definitely traveled the rounds of the Independence together. So to
finally team up, I'm sure that it was like.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Transcending, especially where Trent, you know, having his stint ne
X team out go the way he wanted getting back
to the Independence, going with Chucky Tea, having that friendship,
having that trust in each other, and then to bring
in this kind of comedy gimmick. But what's great is
they were about comedy too. They were about the fun
and the timing. So it just seemed to work. And

(11:47):
Tony Kahan recognized that because in All Out twenty nineteen,
we would have the official all Ee debut of Orange
Cassidy as a sign talent. As the lights wou go out,
he would show up and then we forget our first
gotta give them what they want, hug and as they
say to me, cle say, the rest is history, because
that was really the start of Okay, he's here, Let's
see what Orange cast he can do. And you know,
that first year he really proved a lot of people wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
He did, and I think that that first one to
two years of television for Orange Cassidy, people just loved
to hate him. And it was I think a future
feud would really develop his love.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
With the fans, and you're not wrong, because they would
have their first match out on Halloween. He dress up
like Rick and Morty, so all three of the best
friends be Rick and Morty. The crowd absolutely love it.
He comes out just absolutely not caring, the crowd losing
their mind. But then he'd start to be embroiled with
what you just said. Pac The bastard had his sights
set on Orange Cassidy. Now I never understood this at

(12:49):
first because just coming off a win over Kenny Omega
is now going after Orange Cassidy. But the way he
said he was insulted by him, it was kind of nice.
He was like the voice of the Internet at the time,
where look at you, you lazy piece of crap. You'll
put your hands in your pockets and not trying and
I'll never hek aet that promo with the best friends

(13:10):
in the ring. When he finally challenged Pocket, they said,
you know what he's gonna try, and the entire crowd
at that dynamite channing he will try, he will try,
And that really stuck with me. I'man sure if you've
listened to our episodes at any length, we always reference that
he's gonna try or he will try, because that was
kind of like the little motivating like almost like putting

(13:31):
a towel on his shoulders that go in there, kid,
you got this like it was just such a good moment,
and I think that started with connecting the audience, and
that really started to draw you in because now you're
curious Ken this guy who's kind of a goof who
basically says he wrestles lazy because he wants to conserve energy.
And my favorite part is twenty nineteen, every time they

(13:51):
opened the door, you'd have random Orange Cassidy sighting. So
they'd open the locker room, he'd be sleeping on the floor.
They'd open the bathroom, he'd be in the stall, leaning
against the wall. Like he would just become like a
background character in the most rand of places. Now you're
telling me, this guy's got to go in Pok who's
one of the best fighters in the world.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, And the crews kicked off early twenty twenty where
we saw our friend Jamal start Orange Cassidy cosplaying he.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Is the OGOC and he kept the gimmick. I found
that dude sleeping in windows Shamal will be sleeping in
the windowsill and for those who know, it's like a
big bench that you can sit on to look out
the window. But he'd just be chilling, laying down, you
know what he goes and I've asked him, Hey, were
you sleeping? You'll never know. It's part of the gimmick
because whether he took a nap for five minutes before
he went to line or whether he was just selling
the gimmick, We'll never know.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
And I think that the fact that you had people
starting to dress as him to couseplay him early twenty.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Twenty, in January twenty twenty kind.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Of says everything about him.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Our kid I wanted to dress as him because he
was so enamored by him, like our child was.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Dressed as him and Darby Allen. And again that speaks
of volumes to early aew, it really does.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
And the fin push was behind him. And what I
really like is as we got off the cruise, you
know we started heading towards revolution. Everyone's talking about jerichovers
Moxley for that title match. Everyone's talking about Jericho Boxley
or hanging out everyone, but nobody was really talking about
and Orange Cassie, and I remember being so excited because
I didn't know what was going to happen. And then

(15:20):
we got to the POC match and it just blew
my expectations out of the water because he starts off
with his you know, usual lazy slot style, but then
as the match kind of progressed, he kind of got
pissed off and would start all of a sudden, going
one hundred miles an hour. He would start, you know,
Superman punching Orange punching. Excuse me, he would start actually trying,

(15:41):
and the crowd was eating it up. And then my
favorite spot the entire time that really shout off his comedy.
Pac wanted to go give him go, give him a
black arrow, and he just starts rolling around the ring
and then Pop jumps in the ring and he rolls
to the side and he goes out of the ring,
and then he rolls to the other side again, and
then he rolls over and Pock catches it. I mean,
he's just got this big shit eating grid out of
his face, like Hi, Pak is so pissed. And and

(16:09):
what I like is JR. Says something right in that match,
he goes, I get it now. And I think after
that match, and after how physical it was and how
Orange Cassie showed he could work, and how fluid he
was in the ring, you had Jr. Who early twenty nineteen, Jr.
Was not very kind to wrestlers. He didn't really do
his research. He didn't really understand it because again he

(16:31):
was coming from New Japan where it was more serious
work rate, so he didn't really understand Orange Cassie. But
when he said, I get it now, and he kind
of started explaining that he saves his energy for the
big moments and that he's just trying to piss them off,
and you start to understand what sloth style is. Those
little kicks. He knows they're not effective, he knows he's

(16:51):
just getting in your head, that's just pissing you off,
and that when you snap, you're gonna make a mistake.
He goes, ooh, gonna capitalize and the intelligence started to show,
and really, I think that's what opened everyone's eyes to that, Okay,
he's a good wrestler. He could he could be something.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, like shockingly elevated Orange Cassidy. And they wouldn't end.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
There, No, they would I mean they'd carry their feud
for a couple of years, like and credit to pack
because one thing I like what Orange Cassidy fuds is
when he starts feeding with someone he loses. It's that
typical hero comeback story. Pak didn't just go out and
squash him. They didn't like, They didn't book it as okay.
Pak went out there, beat the ever living piss out

(17:34):
of him and got the win. He actually worked with
him and made the match organic and the crowded towards
the end channing he is trying like that just made
me pop more and just to see how far he
would go and how he came this close, so many
near falls, and then at the end the best friends

(17:54):
coming out to kind of comfort him, to show that
they had his back his entire time. And I really
enjoyed seeing that. But what we're gonna talk about coming
up next is what Emily will always remember is the
summer of twenty twenty. Yes, so the summer of twenty
twenty is Emily's favoit moment because why why is this
your favorite moment, Mimosa Mayhem? Well, why would they have

(18:17):
Momosa Mayham? That doesn't make any sense if you come.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
By my work people will ask what mom is and
I'm like, Oh, that's just what we call the beverages.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So you would have Jericho wanting to start a few
with Orange Cassie because he didn't get it, and he
says in his podcast he's lazy, he's stupid, I don't
get it, and then he wanted to work with him
to see the hype and pandemic air wrestling. I'll say
it out here. AW kept me glued to my television
because they produce some of the best content in twenty twenty.
There's a lot of people who if you're new to AW,

(18:48):
go check out the archives, check out twenty twenty dynamites,
check out the pay per views because they put out
a lot of good quality wrestling and good storytelling even
with the absence of crowds. And that again is a
spant to Orange Cassidy, Chris, Jericho, all the workers in
the EW because you had Orange Casside step up to
Jericho and they would start a trilogy that would end
in your mayhem.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I need to point out the fact that if it
was not for the guns during the pandemic, we would
not have had crowd noise.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Absolutely, Austin and Colton Gun being like the MVPs of
shooting and Holler and whatever. I don't know, shooting in general.
Pineapple Pete, they were the ones.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
That came up with the idea to have shakers out
there to get the crowd noise going, and.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Then they would start allowing limited people in. I forgot
about how can you forget about Pineapple Peete? Pandemic was goaded, man.
But what I really enjoyed about this was, you know,
it really started out with fighter Fest, which was you know,
like almost like a television event slash pay per view,
but it was free. You know, Jericho gets the upper hand.

(19:53):
Then they would have another another match afterwards, and Jericho
was still kind of get the dipper hand, but then
Cassidy started playing games and one of my all time
favorite segments the debate. You have Chris Jericho coming out
to debate Orange Cassie to make a fool of him,
with Eric Bischoff moderating, and then all of a sudden,
out of nowhere, Orange Cassie decides to talk about global
warming and delivers some of the best speech about global

(20:16):
warming and how to reduce waste in our current climate,
and Jericho just going the entire time. But that's not
the best moment. That's not the best moment of the feud.
The best moment of the feud is something she always
talks about. It's something that I think on every episode
you've brought out is the inner circle in the ring
bragging about how Jericho is going to beat the hell
out of Orange Cassidy.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It all out, who wears a seven thousand dollars jacket.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Into their ring and Orange Cassie would come out in
the crowd as their bad mouthing him, and he would
just simply give a thumbs up, and then a bunch
of orange juice would come down and ortiz. We say
it every time to this day. That man sold that
shit like a fish. He was flipping and flopping. He
would stand up and he'd fall down.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Still laughing about it the next day at work.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Next day you up. But every day I do, like.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
My coworkers are like, Emily, what is so funny, And
I'm like, I have to show you this, like this happened,
and I just need to show you because I can't
stop laughing. And my coworkers like, bless bless you guys.
At Farmer's Kitchen, you put up with my wrestling antics
for like two years.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I'm so sorry, and because of how editating was. I mean,
I've gone back and seen that moment countless times just
I have to. I have to. It's Munga by the way,
and that cruise Kate able to Emily make sure you
follow us on tiktoks because of that cheap plug. But
I just love that. Then after Jericho's covered in the
orange juice, he picks up a towel and he's wiping

(21:44):
his towel and it's an orange, gusty towel.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
They're like, wait, put it down, put it down, and
put it down, put it down.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
It was just great because then it sets up. You know,
Jericho has a little bit of the bubbly champagne that
had come out, so he was like, you know, I'm
all about the bubbly and you're all about the orange juice.
So we're gonna do it my most Mayhem match, and
I Ll never forget you turned me on the couch
and was like, what the hell is the mo most
of Mayhem match? Like we don't have to watch and
find out, aren't we, and which we still need that

(22:11):
as a playset.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
By the way, yeah, Jeremy, there's a here.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Don't take ten years to do it either. But but
it was great because you'd see the ring set up
and as Johnny Cadillac, the Lucky Sob at the seat
in person, they would set up the ring. They would
put two pools on each side filled with Mimosa's, and
Jericho and Orange Cassidy would battle a fun match, a
lot of teases, yeah, a lot of like whoa going

(22:38):
in and then just the Superman punched into the juice
and then Jericho just like swimming and floundering in the
orange juice. After it was just it really elevated Orange
Cassidy by a fai because Jericho kind of gave him
the rub. He kind of gave him the all right,
I'm gonna let you win the blowoff match and let
you win the feud and again, so now you have

(23:01):
Pak saying you got this, and you showed that feud.
You have his TV matches where he's starting to go
and meet him. And then this made him a crowd
favorite because Jericho would still for four or five years
out for wid remind us about that seven thousand dollars jacket.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm just waiting for it. To come up again.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Honestly, maybe when he comes back, maybe he'll my I
never got the money for this seven thousand dollars. It's
still stained all orange. It's that it's peak. I think
it was. I think when they did the like what
do you call like the fan.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Thest they have all the different little promp and everything.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Like that, and I really think that too. It gave
us entertainment in a time where we really need entertainment
because you got to remember the summer of the pandemic,
we didn't know how long we were gonna be in
lockdown or without fans. And to deliver that trilogy in
the summer, I mean shout out to aw for not
only doing Stadium Stampede They're Double or Nothing twenty twenty,

(23:57):
to doing that epic ladder match with Orange Cast, which
had just started to.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Bring a sprinkling of fans back.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So like you'd have like a handful of fans here
and there, and you had all these fun moments and
all these fun like internet moments, and if you go
back and look on YouTube, Orange Cassidy has some of
the highest rate of views in EW history all his
segments and matches. He was even beating Seampunk for the
long time. I think he still is in some of
the videos like that's how much fans connected with Orange

(24:24):
Cassidy and what I really he loves Orange Cassidy and
what I love is, you know, you'd have goofy moments
like in twenty twenty he would go to the ladder match,
you go up to Excalibur and next Culp is like, dude,
I've told you the rules of this match, like three
freaking times, Tony's told you the rules. You need to
figure it out. And he'd be like, so I just
coulda go get the like he would just he would

(24:44):
probably be up to so not understand. Then at one
point he's just laying on the ladder because he doesn't
know what to do. Like it was great because you
get our truth through his thing in WWE, and I
have Orange Cassidy doing his thing both the great worker
is this is what we needed in wrestling because it
always works. You have that character who can mix the
comedy with the wrestling. It's entertaining. And that's really what

(25:06):
kind of helped evolve him. And I would say that
the next few months, as the Best Friends started to
evolve with a certain Alien becoming a best friend really
started helping out.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, she wouldn't officially become a part of Best Friends
until March twenty twenty one at Arcade.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Anarchy, which you know that feud you set up because
after all out twenty twenty you had Miro and keep
Saban kind of going after Orange Cassidy and the best
Friends kind of getting in a feud with essentially his
best friend, Keep's best friend, and it would lead to
Arcade Anarchy are obviously when a pay of matches. I
still remember Orange Cassie and the Whack a Mole where
he's hitting kept Saban with the whack a Mole hammer,

(25:43):
Chris coming back out of the claw machine. It just
the moments that kind of showed you who he was,
where he will wrestle when he has to, but he's
gonna have fun with it. But that really think that's
when it started turning. That March twenty twenty one, it
really really started to shift because now the best Friends

(26:03):
are really behind him and they're pushing him. He's not
just the joke, he's an actual competitive member. So you
have the best Friends trying to seek tag title gold
and they're pushing Orange Cassidy to go to Gold and
they did, and he would end up in roil but
Pockingan but also the belt collector Kenny Omega this time,
and he would have a triple threat batch of Double
Nothing twenty twenty one that if you have not seen

(26:25):
that match, what are you doing? Especially with every single
pay per view being on Max. Now, what are you doing?
Because that triple threat match, again, you had Packing Cassidy
who had their chemistry, but now you have Omega delivering
V trigger after V trigger. Omega hit them with Superman punches.
They're all spamming their moves, they're all getting that crowd
that's just starting to trickle back in Wild and the

(26:46):
emotional storytelling of Orange Cassidy almost pinned the champion. Orange
Cassidy almost won the title, and he was embroiled in
that feud, and I think people started realizing, oh shit,
this guy can go. And I think again, So now
you have an with Jericho, you have a match with Pac,
you have a match with Kenny Omega and Poc. He's
not going against slouches Miro. He's showing he's going against

(27:08):
some of the top dogs in the company, and he's
coming so close every single time, and he tries a
little more every single time. Did you notice that I did?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And can we talk about my favorite part of him
being the international champion.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Well, when we get to that, we can, oh just kidding,
that's coming up pretty soon actually, because you know you
after the double or nothing feud, he would start getting
his first shot at gold again for singles goal. Besides that,
because Cody RhoD would start doing his open challenges and
who answered his open challenge, Orange Cassidy. Fun fact, he

(27:44):
actually answered the open challenge in October twenty twenty one.
In November twenty twenty one, when Derby won the TNT title,
So Cody Rhods not only helped elevate Orige Cassidy, he
gave the title to Derby eventually. So again, Chris Jericho,
Cody Rhodes, Kenny Omega puk are all giving him the
rub and putting him over and he's gone after the
world title and the TNT title. I don't know if

(28:07):
that's just someone who people want to call pockets at
this point, because now he's showing he can be that
competitive person, he can be in those big matches. But
now we're gonna get to your your favorite moment, because
you know, twenty twenty two, he unfortunately'd be a little
bit of an injury and he would miss some time
here and there, but he would come back towards the
tail end of twenty twenty two and things would start changing.

(28:29):
And an old familiar, ally Pack had won the Allantic
Championship and he had been defending it. He had a
great match with it, but an old rival pop its heddle.
You had Orange Cassidy, so he had the death triangle
kind of ruling their side in twenty twenty. Yeah, Pac
is the Atlantic Champion, the first Allanic champion, But Orange
Cassidy not forgetting his old friend Pac, not forgetting all

(28:50):
the losses he's taken to him, all the hammer shots
he took from him.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That was a really key component with Pak is that time.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
The timekeeper hand I swear he tried.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
To after getting one taken away from him?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Did you have one of his trunks too?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like Bryce took one away and then he went under
the ring and pulled out a whole nother one.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
And I just love that the best friends didn't let
Pok screw him over in this match. So October twelve,
dynamite is a huge moment. I'm not gonna lie. I
didn't think he had a chance to win this title
from Pak when it first happened. But then when he
pulled the hammer out, that second hammer comes out and Truck,
Chuck and Trent come out. It was magic. It was

(29:31):
absolute magic because they helped even the odds. And then
he would hit a devastating suitman punch, Puck would sell
like he got shot out of a cannon, would fall
over it, and he'd hit the three and I just
remember being so stunned and the orange confetti that the
image is always in my brain, the orange confetti, him
holding up the a title and that orange confetti just
raining down over him, which would probably start one of

(29:55):
the best title runs in a e W. And I'll
put it out there, one of the best title reigns
in the your favorite title role, my favorite.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I think this caused him.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Now put it this way, this reign would last three
hundred and twenty six days with twenty title defenses. Three
hundred and twenty six days, twenty defenses. If you average
that out, that's essentially either a dynamite or a rampage.
Because we didn't have Collision. Then obviously every other week
at least one defense in one of those shows. He
was opening up shows, and that's.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Kind of that's more defenses than we saw any other
title in wrestling being defended at that moment.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And what I liked about it is it kind of
became consistent that when you tune Dynamite, who was going
to open the show, Orange Cassidy, and he would go
on to have some of the best defenses against Ruche,
against Shabata, Jeralisico, Lance Archer, and then your favorite, the
twenty one man Battle Royal at Double or Nothing, where
it came down to him and Swerve, and one of
my favorite quotes from this match was Swerve saying, this

(30:59):
is one of the map Tony started to trust me
on that match with Orange Cassidy. You had excuse me,
I said twenty twenty one, I meant to say twenty
twenty two three. That just was such a moment. And
then you have the four way at Forbidden Door with
Zach Saber, Junior, Shabbata, and Garcia, you'd have three of
the best technical wrestlers in the world. With Orange Cassie,

(31:21):
he showed up with all of them and I've said
this before, and I was saying it. Orange Cassie at
this point didn't have a bad title events. Every title
events was more special, and he used it in his
story when he fought Big Bill and he had to
hit three superman punches to take him down, When he
had Shane Taylor and he had to take a bunch
of superman punches to help take him down. When he
had his match against Adam Cole and Dan Hausen would

(31:43):
appear to curse Adam Cole, and even though it wasn't
a officially sanctioned match, he did everything, and he was
doing hardcore matches. He was doing multiman matches, he was
doing singles matches, he was doing matches on post dynamite
and the belt specials. He was doing matches on a ramp.
He was defending it, and he started to break down

(32:04):
and I love that. This is where I'm so tired.
Renee would come from and he was busted up, his
hands were taped up, he was bruised, he was battered,
he was exhausted, and it really established this workhorse type
of Rudd because you have the entire Fall twenty twenty
two into Fall twenty twenty three, so almost a fully

(32:27):
year of him defending this title, and then he would
get to All Ouvers John Moxley in September and he's
trying to keep that title. He couldn't do it. He
was just so tired he was and Moxley had to
beat him to a bloody pulp. But the one thing
I'll always remember this match, besides how awesome the match was,
after he lost, he was laying there and a pull
of his own blood Moxley off the ring. He stood up.

(32:49):
That entire crowd gave him a standing ovation that entire crowd,
and it wasn't a standing innovation just for the match.
They were giving him innovation for that title rate. And
if you didn't see he was special during that title ring,
then I don't know how else to convince you. But
that title ring he had with the newly rebranded International
title became some of the best wrestling apologize about our

(33:13):
camera here, some of the best wrestling that he did
need w It really proved himself to a new generation
of fans who probably didn't know who he was before.
And again, if you're newer to aw this is the
stuff to go check out. O check out his stuff
in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, go check out the International
title run, and I think you say two of the
episode because we'll give you some matches we want you

(33:33):
to check out. But there's not a bad match in
that title run. And that was kind of like when
you were a kid and you watch that workhorse take
the intercontinent title, like the Miz or Seth Roans or
Jericho take that Intercontinental out and have banger after banger
or Shamus have his good matches, or Gunther or even
more recently, having someone like Hangman started have good matches
or MJF. You see these title ones, but you didn't

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expect Orange Cassidy to be that guy, to be the workhorse.
And I really liked that he stepped up after to
Moxley because Moxley was something that was always and is
still kind of the main existence. And before we kind
of get to the next segment, this is kind of
the evolution of his character and the feuds I mentioned earlier.

(34:17):
So when he had his match against first match against Park,
he came up short. When he had his first match
against Jericho, he came out short. He had his TNT
title match against Kenny, I mean title match Aginst Kenny,
he came up short. He came up short in the
TNT title. He won the nashell and then he held
onto that thing. He kept it in his backpack because
he knew how hard he had to work to get
a title. And then he came up shorting against Moxley

(34:41):
and he would just constantly like his character, every time
he had a match, he would try harder next match
because when they have the remit, he try harder and
he would put the pedal to the medal. I don't
think he's enough credit for his gimmick matching his work
rate where he starts off kind of and then he
just turns it into one hundred. He kicks it into

(35:02):
high gear, and that's what his workhorse run really did.
It showed that when he turns it on, he fucking
turns it on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I think it's it again important to really focus on
the whole.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
He will try, yes, And unfortunately Moxley would get injured
and get a concussion and Ray Phoenix would get the
title for a little bit and Orange Cassidy we get
the title back from Ray Fennix. This one will only
last about one hundred and forty five days. But another
twelve defenses, So let's put that into perspective. First reign
was three hundred and twenty six days with twenty defenses.

(35:35):
This one's one hundred and forty five days with twelve defenses,
thirty two title defenses, which is the most in aw
history for any title. Thirty two combined. That is absolutely insane.
And that's if that doesn't say workhorse to you, I
don't know else to define that word. And in this
reign it's no slouch either. Kyle Fletcher current TT champion,

(35:58):
Zach Saber Junior again, Daniel Garcia, Lance Archer, Juralistico. He
would have all these bangers, and then unfortunately we had
to see him lose the second title Revolution twenty twenty
four against your favorite Rodert sean messiah of the back break,

(36:20):
and he kind of just quietly exited. There was no promo,
there wasn't. My name's Orange Cassidy. I don't have a catchphrase.
He kind of just let that title be his thing.
And what I really liked is the tail line to
twenty twenty four. You no longer took Orange Cassidy as
a joke. You no longer saw him as oh he's
just a comedy guy, and it always made me mad

(36:42):
when I'd see people online whole pockets because at this
point you have Zach Saber Junior and Matt Hardy, will Ospray,
all the biggest names in the business. Rick Flair stings
saying I didn't get it at first, but I do.
They all saw his title ring Baron corpining complement to
his title reign Bradshaw Layfield. People from around the industry

(37:03):
were like, holy shit, this kid is good. So it
really showed who he was and I think really started
to elevate him in the main event scene. And when
Moxley won that title, he was one of the people
out there after Brian Danielson was you know, bagged and
gagged and taken out yees. So it's really crazy to

(37:25):
me to think that he went from someone who, oh,
it's a sloth style and we're going to get into
that soon after we kind of finish off this timeline here,
but twenty twenty four, he'd really reinvent himself and get
himself in that made event picture. If it wasn't for
injury recently, who knows where he'd be right now. But
I mean think about he had that title match again

(37:46):
with Boxley. He's still going after Boxley, so is that
the next person he's going to finally overcome.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I think that it makes the most sense for that
to happen, But also I think that we see a
few coming back again, which feeds.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Up Wheeler Dah so get a haircut Wheeler.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think that maybe they'll.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Have a hairbirst hair match one of those before hopefully
you do lose this, because that's not fair of Orangees
got cut. He didn't have much hair. Orange Casside's hair
is like Udah's debut hair da has like my hair. Now,
so do we.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Want to run down the best friends before they are
broken up?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Because they I was gonna say, as we're getting into
the breaking up four, so yeah, before we get to
the end of twenty twenty four. And now, so how
that bastard Trent shaking my head here broke my heart
and broke Orange's heart after all they've been through with
this title run and helping him get to where he's
got to get.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
So we had episode five of Dynamite, which was the Halloween.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Episode classic, and then we.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Had him and Chris Statlander started teaming up in twenty
nineteen on the independent scene.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
So another one who dressed up like him.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yes, you saw a lot of things going down with them,
including three mixed tag matches, two on Dynamite and one
on rampage. So we have the Blade and the Bunny,
we have Brittain, Adam Cole, and we have Parker, Matt
Monard and Anna j with Wheeler Yudah.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
What a wild combination.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
One of the first times they teamed.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
With Ruler Uga was well, I mean yeah. Also, we
have a question, has Orange Casside really been involved with
how are the canon yet? No? I think that needs
to happen. That needs to happen because unfortunately twenty twenty
four that son of a bit trend Well why are
we going backwards?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You didn't let me talk. So Best Friends would also
pull in Rocky vermiro Eh during Trent's absence in twenty
twenty one, and then in twenty twenty one at Beach
Break we see Dan Hausen come out to assist Orange Cassidy.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
During the match with Adam Cole where he pulled them
out of the Adam Cole went to get a chair
and pulled tenhousand from under the ring.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yes, so although Best Friends gained a few members over
the years. They ultimately were five members the Ogs Chuck, Taylor,
and Trent, with Orange Cassidy also joined by Wheeler Uda
and christat Linder and the best friends are very like

(40:27):
important as far as AEW is concerned, for factions and
for everything going forward. They had the matching track suits,
they had the shirts. They had so much merch. I
think they had like every holiday for merch for them.
Best friends in general truly elevated the tag division. And
it's a shame they never had tag titles.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I mean, they did have one of the best parking
lot brawl matches. And I still love an Orange Cassidy
popped out of the trunk and soupman punch shorties. That
was pretty funny, like so.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Many different memories to look back on. Four best friends,
and it's a shame. So why did trumpet exactly Trent
fuck you?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
And it's sad because Orange Cassi would announce in twenty
twenty four that Chuck would have to retire due to
injury after and Trent would turn an Orange and then
beat up Chuck to kind of retire him. So Chuck lost,
I mean, so Orange Cassidy lost. Chuck e T. He
lost Trent, but then in twenty twenty four Statlander would
go with the freaking stokely in turn, so he lost
all his friends.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So Wheeler was the first to turn.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
In twenty twenty two, Jackass.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Blackpool Combat Club.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Took him in and I get that because you know,
he proved himself. But yeah, he los, He lost all
his friends. And I think that's such a good crux
of his his storytelling because he went from the best
friends pushed him and supported him to get him to
fight Pack, to get him in the world title picture,
the T and T title, to help him in his
title rate and supported him, cheered him, was there walking

(41:55):
him out to the ring at Wembley, you know, all
the moments they were in and just to turn your
back on him, and then they had a great match.
But I still say, well, a whole differ questions that
I still say it's not done. I still say the
best Friends aren't dead. But unfortunately Orange CASTI would finish
out twenty twenty four strong, but in the beginning of
twenty twenty five he would tears pector muscle in March,

(42:17):
and he's been on the shelf since. There are rumors
he did have surgery already, so from what it says
on the old Google machine, it's six to nine months recovery,
depending on rehabilitation. I don't want to speculate, but if
everything goes well, we could see him potentially by at
the end of the year, which would be something I
do miss seeing him in the ring. I think he's

(42:39):
severely underrated by a lot of people who don't watch regularly.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I can't believe his last match was full of power.
We had Mark Davis, Mike Bailey aka Feetball, and.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
It was essentially for a shot at Kenny Omega and
a shot at the belt, And you know, he's that
work course and it's just it's a freak interest. It's sad,
but I'm glad that, you know, we can talk about
him today because he is misunderstood and he has so
many great matches. We could sit here for hours and
list every match in every favorite But I kind of
want to go to next segment where I want to

(43:15):
kind of talk about his sloth style, what his strategy is,
and what his gimmick is evolving to what we think
maybe when he comes back, what it will be.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, so you guys can keep listening because we do
have match recommendations.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
So when it's when it started out first, you know
he starts he's starting off by kind of pissue off
with the sloth kicks. And he was never really lazy.
He was precise. He was always kind of picking and
choosing his moments, saving his energy. He didn't really talk.
I mean, I think he's got like three promos total.
He just he was there. He was, but he became

(43:47):
the most consistent performer because he will keep showing up,
he will keep trying, he keeps elevating himself. And that's
why I'm thinking his character has already kind of started
to arc and has already started to change. He went
from all right, there's a guy who doesn't say anything.
He's gonna do some kicks. He's gonna lose, to all right,
there's the guy. He does some funny stuff. One day
he'll be championship. There's the workhorse. He's also doing that

(44:10):
awesome funny stuff he's proving himself to. Could he be
the main event title picture? Could you know? There's plenty
of things I can see him. So I want to
ask you, Emily, when he comes back, do you think
he's still gonna be that kind of like lazy chill guy.
Now that can that turns it on when he needs to?
Or do you think we're gonna get some sort of
evolution when he returns.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't want to see him change. I want to
see the same old Orange Cassidy. Maybe we've always choked
about the blood orange. Maybe he comes back a little
more hardcore style, but I could see him definitely just
coming back as Orange Cassidy. There's no need for change.
The man is amazing.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
And I we'll say though, before he went out, you
know he switched to black denim. He did so was
that symbolic or is he just sick of wearing blue denim?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I don't know. I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Actually he also went from fresh, freshly shaved, get what
I did there, to having a little bit of stubble
and go tee, Because if you look back some of
the early pictures, I'm like, oh, he looks like such
a baby. But then it's like he grows his stubble,
he grows his beard. You're like, oh, Okay, he's kind
of chiseled himself. He's kind of had his glow up too,
And I think he's had a glow up in the ring.
He's had a glow person I was, and I don't

(45:22):
think I've seen him off the boat in a live
show on TV where he's not getting some of the
loudest cheers and some of the loudest ovations. I mean,
when either Where's My Mind or Jane Hits, that place
goes crazy every time.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Which also fun fact is he did not expect either song,
let alone the biggest and.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
They change him up every time too, Like I swear,
like just when you're thinking where all of a sudden
you have the pick season you have or without that
you have Jane Hit, and you're like, wait, what's going on?
And it's almost kind of like are they trolling him
by just changing the song? Are they trolling us? I've
never quite understood.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Oh the little test Pyro that the Bucks stole this
past week on Dynamite. Uh So we're gonna switch gears
here to some match recommendations for you that I think
and Emily think you would enjoy, kind of like I
don't want to say the definitive Orange Cassidy, but matches
that we think have really shaped his career or shaped
him as a wrestler. So I think my first one

(46:19):
we talked about earlier, Poc versus Orange Cassidy Revolution twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, I think that's a really good one. I have
Cody versus Orange in the first ever AW lumberjack match
October twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
That's a great match too. I enjoyed that because they
don't do a lot of lumberjack matches in AW.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
They do not.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Christ Jerach overus Orange Cassidy the entire trilogy that summer
twenty twenty. I mean, you saw that, but then any
of as you have to see all three matches kind
of see how it crescendos. So I would say that
because that was probably one of my favorite feuds.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
All right, how about Arcade Anarchy?

Speaker 1 (46:52):
How can you not love arcade?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Kay?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I mean the gimmick of itself, A street fight with
arcade machines and cabinets and a claw machine, whack a
mole the legos like. It was just such an entertaining match.
I agree, I have a good I mean, obviously I
mentioned earlier Kenny Mega Verus Park vers Orange Cassi Double
and I think twenty twenty one fantastic triple threat match.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yes, I've got the mixed tag match of Bunny and
Blade versus Person Orange.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
That's a great match too, especially you know, knowing how
much Bundy and Orange had some history on the Indies,
and when he put on when he put her little
bunny ears on to do the kicks, I was dying.
I'm like, hey, put it on the ears. Here's a
ramp here's one from Rampage, Deep Dive, Orange Cassidy verse
Shabata Rampage twenty twenty two. Because a lot of people

(47:38):
didn't really put respect on Shot he came in, but
him and Orange Cassidy had a hell of a singles
match they did.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Fun fact, we had a hair versus hair match with
Jack Evans and Orange Cassidy, and I'm assuming Jack Evans lost,
but I really don't remember.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I mean, he has long hair, so I don't think
he did. I think Orange Cassidy might have lost. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I just have going to see a hair worse hair match,
and I was intrigued. Maybe one we got to catch
back up on.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I'm gonna say for Orange Cassady versus well Osprey, the
first Forbidden Door probably one of my favorite matches when
he does a superhero pos and then he's like he's
like laughing and giggling, and then he's kicking Osprey in
the head and Osprey's just like, are you fucking kidding
me right now? At twenty twenty two, really kind of
a breakout match for him. I think it really showed
he if he can hang with Osprey, he can hang

(48:26):
with everyone.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
He had a lights out match with Adam cole.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
In two fantastic. That's the Dan Howsie on when you're
talking about a lot of crazy spots in that one.
Absolutely fantastic match. Also similar, Matt Tavan and him had
a great hardcore lights out match. It was I think
it was around Valentine's Day, Texas death Match. That was
pretty underrated. All of people don't talk about that one,
but that was pretty fun. What else you got?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I've got the twenty three Stadium Stampede with best friends
the BCC and I believe.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yes, the cookie tray, Oh my god, sopop when Sue
comes out with the cookies, when comes.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Out in the van, everyone knows I'm a mark for Sue.
Give me the van. In the action figures, like, guys,
you're missing the market. Jazz Whears just let me work
with you.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I will say another one, Orange Cassiy versus Zacual Virginia
Rishabata Vsus Garcia for been to our twenty twenty three again.
I loved Dana Garcia. You can go back and listen
to our predictions. We talked about how much we can't
wait for that match. I think it delivered.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
How many more lumber Draft matches do you think he
was in?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Wasn't he two of them?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Two more?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Because then because Juice dressed up as a lumberjack on
one of them.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yes, so we have Matt Hardy and QT Marshall because.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I remember Jews coming out and that's like the only
thing im from that match that like stuck with me
the most is Juice is a fucking lumberjacket. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I remember my favorite alien coming out as a lumberjack.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
She did do.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
My last one is a two versus one handicapped match,
Orange Cassidy versus the Outrunners.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
That was a fun match and that was pretty recent.
That's a good recent one to throw on there. Recent,
I would say, Zach Sayer Junior Voice, Orange Cassie Forbidden
Door again, Forbidden Door. Honestly, every Forbidden Door he hasn't
had a bad match.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Maybe this is.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I think it might be too soon. Maybe an appearance
a couple other good ones is kind of onor mentioned.
That Big Bill match I think is a great one
to go look into because of how he kind of
takes on someone who's a little bit bigger than him,
how he kind of, you know, like Jack versus the
Giant Slayer, not Jack giants like Jack, you know what

(50:37):
I'm talking about, but like David Goliath. There we go.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
So big Bill is actually very intricate in that twenty
one man match that he had.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I'm surprised you didn't name that is one of your ones.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
To watch, but we've already discussed that much pretty thoroughly,
and hands down one of my absolute favorite title defense matches.
I think that that elevated what Orange Cassidy could do
and be taken seriously.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I think so too, especially since he could have lost
his title any second. It was such a good oh
like I call those like.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
The very start, they teased him going over the ropes,
Chuck Taylor took a dodge for him.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, they saved him.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Ye, like both of them, Big Bill took out. So
Big Bill came very close I'm actually kind of shocked
he never had a title run with that title after that.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I know Big Bill definitely had his his number on
Orange cause he had his sight set on him. I
think another fantastic match that doesn't get is the all
Out twenty twenty three. Yes he lost, but again the
standing ovation afterwards, the physicality, the build up to the
match where he's like, my name's Orange Cassidy, I don't
have a catch freeze, him standing up to Moxley, and

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then anything with him in the conglomeration was fun, like
watching him with Ee last summer. I mean, I don't
think there's a lot of bad Orange Cassidy matches, if
you especially a singles match. He really knows how to work,
and I think there's so many great ones. And one
of the best things about AW on HBO Max is
I found out the pretty recently. If you just type

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in double Nothing twenty twenty on the search part, it
comes up so unlike Peacock. You don't got to know
the friggin' seasons, you don't know how to goo, you
can just actually search it in. So I really enjoyed
the shift over to HBO Max because it's nice to
have all the people of using one location so can
rewatch these. But that's pretty much why I had for matches,
so I know when to turn over to you. Before

(52:34):
I get to some questions I have for you.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I just want to know what is one of your
favorite signature moves that he has.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Probably beach break, just because it comes out of nowhere
all the time, okay, or stupid as this sounds. The
kicks slof kicks just because him and Sting do it
is like my favorite version when Sting's just oh yeah,
and she's just kind of like, what is this going on?

(53:03):
But I actual like move that looked fun. Slum Dog
Millionaire when he kind of flips over and does the
stunner my.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Absolute favorite because they come out of nowhere. It's a
great counter. I think that that move alone is instrumental
to most of his matches. Also, one of my favorites
is the orange squeeze or the lazy four fifty.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah he does a little yeah also too. Sometimes when
he he'll do like the elbow drop, he'll like come
over and he'll just lay down and do the elbow drop.
Or when he did the spinner Rooney, he got on
the ground and kind of just like sat like, he's innovative,
and I think that's what I enjoy is he's innovative
with his moves. But now to kind of close out

(53:45):
before we wrap up, I want to ask some questions,
not only to you, but to everyone listening as well.
Let us know in the comments, make sure he likes subscribe,
follow us and all that jazz that cruise okfe, but
all of our socials including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, my facier
face wherever. So for some closing questions, do you see
Orange Cassidy as world champion material?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Shocky hasn't held it yet.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Okay, I agree? Did the international title line? Do you
think he could be a bigger champion because of that title? Run?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yes, he elevated that title. He is the reason that
title has so many defenses. And if it wasn't for
Kenny and Okada, maybe they could have done something for
Orange on that belt as well.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Do you think we're going to see a best Friends
union in twenty twenty six? No, I think we are.
I think we'll see a best Friends union next year.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I don't think it would be twenty twenty six. I
think that maybe they're the ones to pull Yuda out
of his own ass. But as from that, we've got Trent,
who's pretty much stuck at the moment with Don Kallas,
and they're all so and rocky. Yeah, like they're all
just so far apart right now that to get the

(54:57):
five of them back together, I think it's going to
take a lot. I think maybe Orange is that glue.
Maybe he is.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
That's what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking. I'm thinking they
come together help him get his world title. At some
point I think that maybe they do. They realize that
he's he is not He's like the if if you're
a D and D player, he's mechanical good. He is
that like positive good. And I apologize, I'm sorry I
butchered that, but he is the true good. He's not

(55:25):
the neutral. I think he's the person who, maybe he
gets one or he gets the unified title, you know,
gets another kind of run to add to that lineage,
because it would be his third run if because they
have the history combined. But I think my last question,
which theme song do you prefer? Do you prefer Jane
or where's my mind?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Oh Jane? Once you hear that little little like yeah, no,
the piano, is that a piano.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Don't you hear that? The screen starts to go white
and you see the orange lights coming on.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
It's like they're hand guitars. Yeah, Like my.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Heart just gets so like, yes, finally he's back. Like
every time I hear that, every time I see it, like, yeah,
I just love Orange Cassidy on my screen. Give me more.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Also, I will say I agree with you. One of
my favorite entrances is even using that song was the
Mister Bean entrance from about twenty twenty four where he
lays out in the alley, the same exact alley and
has the exact same shot for shot remake of the
Mister Bean intro because as a kid growing up, I
watched Mister Bean my grandfather, so it's always special to me,
and he fits that same motif and gimmick. But I

(56:45):
absolutely love Orange Cassie. And I also want to invite
everyone to stick around at the end of this episode
the next few minutes because we had some of our
followers on our Facebook page, Thank you so much sending
some pictures of what Orange Cassidy means to them them
cosplaying some people with some special tat two's really showing
the impact that Orange Cassidy had on a fan base.

(57:06):
So I think my final thoughts will be I love
Orange Cassidy. I'm glad he tried. So what about you?
What are your final thoughts where we wrap this up?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Whatever? I think that there's a reason he's the PWY
twenty twenty most popular wrestler.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I agree, So I think without further ado, I think
we're gonna wrap up this episode, so remember always keep
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