August 23, 2024 • 56 mins
Welcome to another episode of Topic Turmoil! this time we are joined by Jeff and Rachael to pull random topics and talk about them for 3 minutes! many topics were discussed from the jericho cruise, to fantasy booking to favorite wrestlers! We had a lot of listener suggestions as well and those topics were also included!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H M, the Cruzler Cafe Bombungo.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Emily, and today we're joined by the infamous Rachel and Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yes we are, and we're here to do some topic
turmoil three. Where as Bishop would say three minutes. There's
a topic in the tiebow of fun. I don't know
whether you still have your nicknamed for this thing yet,
and there's a random topic in there. We're gonna pull
it out. We're gonna take turns of discussing that topic
for three minutes, and it's kind.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Of a right about.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
We have some of the ones from our listeners on
there as well, so this could be anything from your
favorite gear design to I saw some pretty existential questions
and I think I saw one that was like most
emotional connected wrestler. So there's some pretty layup ones in there.
There's someone's gonna make you think. So I think she
pulled the first topic for Jeff and Rachel. So we'll
put three minutes on the clock and actually, yeah, we'll
(01:24):
put three on the clock and we'll have them go.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's the topic.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Name a world famous wrestler known to the mainstream that
hasn't done it through Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, that's a hard question.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
But with just wrestling, so has done it, but only
just because of their wrestling.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, and I want to shout out Daniel Soul for
that one.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's a hard question though.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And Okay, so they made they pretty much were famous
just through wrestling, but didn't use any like Hollywood or
mainstream like.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Like John Cena correct or like The Rock or.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Things along those lines. Oh well, you got anything off
the top of your head with no Hollywood, because that's
where it kind of makes hardest one to begin with.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I have I kind of have an answer for this
if we want to skip them and go to but if.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You want to, if you have one, you have two
minutes if you want to do you.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Guys wanna Yeah, you can go ahead if you like.
If you got somebody in mind, and then I can
think you think I.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Got a good one. Jake the Snake. Nice Jake the
Snake is somebody that if you mentioned them, people kind
of know who he is. They they know the name.
They're like, oh, yeah, that's the guy that had the snake.
That's you know, people kind of know who he is.
And he's a reputable name. Depending on who you talk to,
(02:44):
pretty much everyone knows them.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But they're saying mainstream.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So I'm gonna cut you off into Jacks because there's
someone who I consider more mainstream that make snake the
help take the Snake. I'll talk about DP with DDP Yoga.
I think he's true will be the one that's when you.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
First he was in movies though, so it's kind.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Of a true. I know he wasn't ready to rumble
a couple of movies, but I don't think he really
got his breakout through Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Dust or something to in one of those or something.
He's a bound No, No, he's in like a rob
zombie one. He's one of the bounty hunters.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Also, yeah, it's like the Devil's Rejects or something like
that along the lines. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a
hard question because this one first been.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
A couple of cos becent bout movies.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
But what about like Rick Flair. You know, he hasn't
really had a lot of like movie in mainstream, but
he has done commercials. He has done so you know
what I mean, that's kind of a really tough question.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Good question.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I was gonna say, does I mean Roddy Piper? I
wasn't originally say too, but obviously they live is very infamous.
But like, it's hard because I think there was such
a co mingling of wrestling stars in Hollywood in the
nineties and early two thousands.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
That stratus No I was gonna say movie.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh yeah, that's a very tough question. And then Daniel
we did.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, some of the Olympics with a broken freaking neck.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
That's yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I mean it's still wrestling, it's just amateur eight years
ago too.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, nice, let's get let's get another topic out. And
actually I kind of like the roundtable format better. Let's
do roundtable three minutes and it works better.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A minute and a half each side kind of deal
or something or back and forth.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, what's the next one? We got folded?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm going to give the names first. So this one
is from.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Oh the Worst, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So Romiro. So this is from Romeiro and it's a wrestler.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Or talent a e W could have pushed for a
title run.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So a wrestler or a talent that eight W could
or should push for a title run.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Okay, well, I'll guess I'll jump in with one. Somebody
would haven't seen it in a while, and I know
there's some talking whatever, but I'm going more singles title
right here. But like Ricky Starks, for example, would have
been someone I would have loved to see, you know,
with a belt of a singles run or something along
those lines.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
You got somebody your Yeah, I would.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Really like to see Nick Wayne, like for him to
wrestle more because I think that he has the talent,
but he hasn't been in there because he's in Christian
cages like Shadow.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Change.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
But anyways, yeah, i'd like to see Nick Wayne come out.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, what about you?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I was gonna say, like a TNT kind of run.
I would like to see m I had them, I
lost them. That's how Daniel Garcia, that's what I want
for a T and T run.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
He doesn't do the dance really much.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, he's going to be getting rid of his dancing
and coming back as Red Death, which is somebody we've seen.
Maybe we'll see some Kevin Blackwood, but like, I would
love to see a TNT run with him because I
think that he would hold a good feud.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So I had three names for three different titles right now,
and you took one of them. But so I'm gonna
subsitue Brody King for a T and T title run.
I think he would make an awesome T and T champion,
top flight in a trios I'd like to see top
flight at those trios titles. And then just to pop
Jeff R. H tag titles New York, the Outrunners, the
youngest man in the room.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We at least that that wasn't hard to think about
as much more about who we want booking it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Obviously, Jamie Hater is gonna come back and go on
a women's title run, So that's fine.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
I just told you we saw her at the real me.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yes, well, she's got to get some matches in and
get her you know.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah, we've seen her wrestle. She's really good.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
When we went to w A m H and that's
what she was there.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
We saw her for her title run which she had
there for two and a half years or whatever the
heck it was in n w A.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Two of those that'd be a good one.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
The same height style, Yes, an opponent too.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I like that we're getting like that the old diesel
shot Michaels, like the enforceer role, like it's kind of
thrown back to that old style like you got the
cocky heel and then you got the big force of
like I'm gonna do you. Zry work a great role
to bring her in.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And then when the.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Renegade Twins joined her a little mone faction, it'll be interesting.
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm happy to hear that rumor too, because I've seen
the Renegade Wins several times.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
They're good, They're good, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So this one comes from dez were fame reaction to
a face or heel turn.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh, I got some good ones in that one.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
I don't heel.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Turn my face. When Cody Rhodes came out with black.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Hair, God, do you have any jack? I wrote him down.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Go ahead, I'll let you do your well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I have big cast. Turning on Enzo. I think that
was a complete what the heck? When he turned into you,
why you're nothing with no to me me at the time,
You're like you're nothing without Enzo.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
This makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Bobby Rude when he randomly became a face after his
NXT run, we had his whole the glorious one that
he came to round. He was like a smiling, happy
Robert Rude, and I was like this that's a you know,
but the all time one stone cold that Wrestlmating seventeen
when he aligned with a big man. I don't think
I've ever seen a crowd not boo that he went
hel but boo, like what the is this?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah? What do you do? And this was like your
mortal enemy guy?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And now she's a slightly distracted one of our friends
that I had dinner with tonight from the softball team. Uh,
he proposed to her after at the hotel when they
went back. So she's a slightly distracted now, So.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Congratulations, Yes, he's that a slightly distracted.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So sorry about that, because I know I had a
couple in my head too that were real downers because
you thought it was going to be a big push
and it, you know, a big.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
And they didn't.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I know a couple And I'm just a little bit
blank right now. So go ahead and moved past me
on this one.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well that's that's not a Healer face.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Turn, I would say the but okay, so I'm just
going to say the best one that I've ever seen
with the Healer, and the face turn would be the
whole Kogan whenever he came out for me in the
yellow and the red out and he ended up becoming
like the bad guy the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm just surprised Emily didn't go with an easy win
and just say big show, because then you don't have
to say which one? Alright, what we got for show?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Okay, he wouldn't listen to Rachel and I.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I still love that. Coco asked him, wow, you got
really tiny hands, you got really big hands. What do
you expect me tiny?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Like?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's still love you, Coco aka foot So where are
we have the next topic? I should send that to him.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm going to do a non fan one.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Non fan it's basically an Emily one.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We'll go.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
An a E. W.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Starr.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You could see going to the w W.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, I really don't want to see any of them
in the reality because i'd like to see them get
worked in at AEW first at least. I mean, I
hate to say it, but the guy I mentioned earlier,
it could be a possibility with Ricky just because of
how he's being used and whatever else. And I hate
to say that, but I think it could be a
(11:16):
possibility because he's very charismatic and he's kind of you know,
got some of that stuff they really liked with some
previous guys that rock rock style and some of that
type stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
So I hate to say it, but I can.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, So I could see him possibly going that'd be one.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I think wardlow. I think I can see ward logoing.
He's got the size if they're like like a brown breaker.
I feel like his booking has been awful in the EW,
so I feel like he's he doesn't have much to stay.
For britt Baker, I could see her eventually making the
jump back to sea to try it out, but those
are I mean, I don't I don't think she I
(11:54):
think she would be like like holy craft that you
got her kind.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Of moment, but.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Because I don't think Ricky would be realistic.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, And I don't think's leaving.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I know he's been rumors and you know all that,
but I think DG likes where you're at. You know,
I think he's like, hey, this is you know the
company I went to you from the indies that's making
my name, and I want to do it here and
then maybe try to do something else.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And they already kind of showed him he's going a
main events storyline versus having to go into maybe some
people don't want to go to NXT because they don't
I'm not saying NXT is starting over anything, but some
people don't want that because they feel, especially if they've
been on television, they kind of feel like it's a
lateral move or a backwards move. But again, I mean,
I think they wouldn't keep mentioning him in storyline on
(12:38):
TV every week if they didn't have really good faith
that he was about to sign.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Or it's more of a semantics.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Correct Rachel, anybody you think would leave AW to go
to WW.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Like Ricky wardlow DG. We don't think it's leaving.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Is there anybody think realistically could leave AW to go
to w W right now?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I could see timeless Tony Storm doing it.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
There. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I think she's like another Cody Road, you know where
she was there and then she came to a e
W made herself and then go back and then she'll
be the winner again because she.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Was mainly n xt U K right when she was
she was mainly in the UK stuff, so maybe that
proving ground for her.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Maybe I think she had.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
A really great NXT UK and n xt US run,
but when she got to the main TV they just
dismantled any momentum she had. The lack of better terms
cream tied her back.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
What so, what's our next one?
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I don't like CEO. Ce O can go back to
w W E.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean, yeah, I'm guessing Rachel's not a fan.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I am not a fan of her.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
She doesn't like her character and like that type of
stuff more so than like her in ring work. I'm like,
she can go in the fucking ring. You can't even
argue that point. Like she's smooth for the most part,
like her stuff flows pretty good. It's hard to.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Deny that fact.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oh no, she definitely rubs off to the wrong way
because the comments will see even just mentioning her name
and brings out some of the people who are.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like, I hate her.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm not saying you have to always like the person,
but I agree with Jeff, like I can't deny her
ring ring prowess. I mean helps Stephanie back cor get noticed.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, and look where she went.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
She has the door right, So the next.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
One it has to be an Emily one. I don't
remember writing this, but do you prefer pants, trunks or
shorts style?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Now, if we're going to old school, I would say
trunks because that's kind of just you know what it was,
so that's what you're kind.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Of used to.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
You did see some singlets and some pants and stuff,
but not really in earlier wrestling. It kind of was
more eighties with the characters and costumes that they started,
you know what I mean, and things like that. So
if I go traditionally, I say trunks. But then if
I'm going for the more modern and costume and design
(15:30):
type things, I would say it's probably more towards the
pants because you can kind of do more, I think
a little bit more fabric, a little bit more things
to be able to kind of put your flare and
things like that.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
So I would say that, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But then as a guy, yeah, I'm definitely going like
the pants or the boy short type shorts instead of
the trunks, you know, because it's dude running around in speedo.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
But it well, yeah, I like the whole Tarzan one
where they cut the cross. Yeah that's one and then
they like take it all. Yeah, So that would be
the one that I that I likes.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
The wrestling singlet.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah I do, so.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I need to go. Yeah, she's taking the dog out.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I I think I'm always kind of partially. I think
it depends on the gimmick. I think I always thought
it was weird when some like rich person was like,
I'm the richest person and then they wrestle in like
plain black trunks. You're like, you're so rich you can't
by wrestling gear. So I think it really depends out
you have someone.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Like pants, I don't want to see that though.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
We've got a good phasique too. I think that's part
of it. Some of it's your body type as well.
I mean I would wear it, but I don't need
to be in the trunks, you know how. I need
to get some pants and probably are singlet help hold
some of the smoking in.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
I think Keith Lee does very good job with what
he wears, or.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Kevin Owens, you know, they try to to not go
above their body type.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
And things like that.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yeah, they're not like Otis.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, but I don't know. This kind of makes it
work though too.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, hilarious with it. But then you've got like Bear Bronson,
they hold themselves really well on the independence. You have
other bigger guys that hold themselves really well as well.
I don't know how much time we have like forty
I think. Yeah, again, it depends on their style, it
depends on their physique. But I think, where would you
(17:32):
want to wear where you're comfortable and even if you
see it, it's okay, you're comfortable exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
For the next one, I'll tell it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
At least once.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
This one is from top fan justin Calhoun and ending
to a match that left you blank.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Well, I will use the one of Daniel, you know,
Brian Danielson and Will Osprey. It left me pretty happy,
pretty excited, uh, kind of worn out in the way
just because it's pretty awesome match and the emotions and
the intensity and just you know, enjoying it and getting
into it and cheering and all that. Yeah, it was
(18:23):
pretty awesome. Kind of maybe this maybe it left me
partially speechless.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
We'll say that here.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
I'm looking up.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
I got my mine's will Osprey too. Mind going to
be a will Osprey and m JF whenever they fought,
like I seriously thought he was going to take it
like an m JF only got it with like one arm.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Yeah, that was a that was a big match. I
really I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I think mainly me Brian, I would say Daniel
Brian and Seamus at WrestleMania when he basically Cassay took
bro kick and was done, I would say that kind
of left me like what happened? What Undertaker? Like you
said earlier, losing the streak, that one would be like emotionless.
(19:16):
I'm probably like anytime, like it's just a weird, abrupt ending,
like it's it's tired. But like those are the probably
to stick out the most. But like Victory Road twenty
eleven with Jeff and Sting, like where at the time
we didn't know what's going on and you have Jeff
Hardy coming out and Sting doing a scorpion death drop
and then the match.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Is just over.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You're like, yeah, what what is all the shenanigans going on?
And any find out behind the scenes after it was issues.
But I think those are the matches I think I
remember most going.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
What I did a fucking right whenever Rock finally got
over on Stone Cold at WrestleMania, because I liked both,
but you know, it was two to nothing and I
was wanting to see Rock finally get something.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Oh yeah, no, they had to give Mania nineteen. That
would have been kind of an insult even if Stone
Cold was were tired.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You can't have the rock. Oh and three, that's what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
And then Hogan, Hogan the Rock. That would be another
one that'd be up there. Oh Goldberg Orton when he
won his first title and became the youngest world champion, that
was another fucking right moment.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That was kind of shocking.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I wasn't necessarily thinking they would go that way with
him at twenty three or whatever the hell he was,
so I'd say that was another one.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All right, did you have one more? Rachel? Before the
time was up?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
He said, Oh, Goldberg and brock Lessener, Like I can't
believe that he beat brock Cluster, Like seriously, come on now?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
That was and I love Goldberg's like one of my
top Yeah, I love Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Except the tile to Scare of the Cat.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
M all right, ooh perfect. What is your favorite Cruise match? Oh?
I can tell you mine is Kenny and Rio versus
Kip and Penelope.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That not even a good match.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It was a good match. I mean, that was one
of the first intergender matches I ever witnessed, and I
thought it was so cool just to see the different
styles matchup. Everything about it was like, we need Penelope
back in the ring. Her gymnast style is so fun
to watch mixed with kIPS like hard hit. I don't know,
(21:30):
it was just really love.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
It was a good match. I agree. I agree.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Now I would say, do we disclude the dynamite matches
from this conversation and just do actual cruise matches.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think I think they'd include their apping on the cruise.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Okay, well, I mean obviously first title change ever in
aw history. Asked the rank up there pretty high, and
then I would say, what was it? Speedball Mike Bailey
and Oku, yeah for that, because as that was Mike
Bailey had probably two of the better actual matches on
the boat ever in my opinion, as far as like
(22:09):
actually wrestling and doing more of the hard hitting moves
and keeping it to a hard hitting match, you know,
instead of well we're gonna break off a little comedy,
you know and do some of this. No, they just
you know, they did a little bit, but they went
hard at each other. So I think that was a
really good one too, just as a more serious cruise match.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
About you, Rachel, I've been thinking, wait, I know, I
totally had it it was right, Oh, I got it. Okay,
So my favorite was I know, I was like seriously
(22:53):
Pentagon and Phoenix this last cruise because okay, well Pentagon
was yeah, because he like walked the ropes the whole
time and everything I thought.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I thought he didn't really get.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Wayne. Yes, I forgot about and I have Hangman versus
somebody else in the drinking competition on the second cruise, Frank, Yes,
they didn't still drinks. They were flipping. They were doing
all sorts of crazy. Yes, they had something when they
did a flip.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They drank before they started everything.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Private Party versus Jurassic Express had the little shot cups
or the red solo cups. That was maybe that one
you're thinking of, because they did do a role with
their cups.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
What's the next one?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
All right? From Dez discuss how wrestling March used to
be cool foam earns and Teddy Bears. Now it's t shirts.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Oh so hold on read the one more time.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So if merchant wrestling merch has changed.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Or used Okay, so like the evolution kind of it.
I mean some of the hokey shit used to be
the best stuff. I mean I miss and that's not
even hokey to have like lunch boxes and thermoses and
some of that. I mean, could you imagine having like
an earned thermos? Fucking dope as shit? So I mean
some of that kind of cheesy ish, I guess, not hokey,
(24:29):
but cheesy. Some of that stuff was awesome, but I
do understand, you know that the world has changed in
society and stuff, so I could see how maybe some
of that would be more of the kid oriented base.
But I still like some of that stuff. But I
definitely like shirts.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
I would like to see more.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Signs. I know it's not merch, but I kind of
miss a sign era in the stance.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
That yeah scientist again.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
As I think, I mean, like I look behind you,
you see the film fingers. I miss good film fingers.
I think film fingers are always one of my favorite.
Novelt he's like having the r v D thumbs. Those
are some of my favorite. The two sweets, the w.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
A wolf from the wolf Pack.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
If anybody for sale, please don't well it says no,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Also, I think POGs those are cool and W had
POGs those were cool, I remember. And then the ice
cream sandwiches, not the ones they brought back recently, but
the original good humor ones. That's what I think of.
I like, I like you have the hook here the
bed because me, wrestling has always been Carnie and stupid.
I want Carnie and stupid.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Well, it's entertainment.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's supposed to be suspending reality and disbelief in a way,
you know.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I mean, well, you don't see any wrestlers like promoting
anything like wait, what what, well, no, I'm talking about
like food, like macho man.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean Nick Foley had a whole the what do
you call it, the Ravioli thing for a while, it's
over stuffed ravili.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
L A. Knight took over.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well, el A Knight's freaking doing flut gyms or whatever
not in me.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yes, and then Ric Flair's doing some insurance again well,
I mean Ric Flayers Brokes.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Does every commercial if you listen, he keeps it going.
He really trolls.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Everybody knows.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
He's probably one of the nicest wrestlers though, I would say.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Fans, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, good answer.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Tell me how you feel scripted? Yeah yeah, oh perfect,
your favorite little lost spray match?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh jeez, Well, I mean entertainment wise and just kind
of sheer oftenness is obviously him and Ricochet.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I was thinking of that too.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I figured somebody had to you and I already said
him and Brian Danielson.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
And then she said m JS.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
So I'd have to go more like something maybe Will
and AJ Styles and Rev Bro when like twenty fourteen ish,
I want to say, when he was getting ready to
leave Japan and come he gave him kind of a
little rub and I think it was Rev Pro. I
think so that was a really good match that was
kind of under the radar. So I'm gonna throw that
(27:45):
out there. Well lost fravers AJ.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Styles, It's a good one.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
That a good match too.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I'll bring up for you sometime.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's a hard way to.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Think of because I think Will and Kenny when the
door happened, that's very iconic. But I know you have
probably a different Will and Kenny match.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, they only wrestled twice.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They have rustled three.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I thought wrestled twice. They haven't had a third one
yet yet. Probably Osprey Alkata the first time, just because
like final Boss moment there, the first Lance Archer match,
really the first Sills match, because I'm really sure what
Archer could do and I think the reason his song
is called Elevate is because I think he elevates everyone
(28:31):
in the ring with him. I think it's hard for
me to pick because I don't see a lot of
bad Osprey matches. That's because I think he can compensate
for overs in the ring. He can kind of adapt
to the style, kind of like a kard Angle could
where I'm not saying he's cardigle many means, but if
he knew you couldn't go grap for grap, you know,
he'll go and he'll keep your level off. But he
knows when it's archer's gonna throw a round, So he's
(28:52):
gonna sell a lot better, make more dominant, like he's
gonna turn himself inside out, versus like just taking to
make a basic flatback.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I gotta just something kind of off the wall, but
something I would like to see will Osprey versus Nick Nemics.
Can you figure this fucking selling in that match? Holy Ship?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It would be like Sean Michaels at WrestleMania.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Yeah, that's what I was saying. That would be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I want to see Osprey versus Mysticico.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I want to begone.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, Peza versus Ospray, there's a match out there, I
think from like two three years ago. Holy crap, when
he when he's like breaking fuck Puck, when he's like
breaking the fingers, it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Listen, I hate him, but he's so great. Him and
Osprey together, it was great.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It would be great any other promotion.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I'm telling you him with m JF.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Like really like them two did very well together because
m JF he's already in that role and then will
coming in like they I thought they did really, really
good together.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I was really surprised.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Oh, so speaker Spris, does Pock ever wear clothes? Because
every press conference I've seen Pocket, he's always in his
gear twenty four to seven, speaking of so one who
go back to V the people who wear their gear
twenty four to seven, that's such a w staple where.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
He doesn't have boiler room gear or you know, anything else.
He's a bastard in a boiler room, but he's naked.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
It always bugged me as a child to see people
walking backstage and it's like, you're not supposed to wrestle tonight,
but you're in your trunks. You Oh, you're not doing
anything now.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, the next question is what ww WE star do
you see going to a E w oh C or
what do you see them going? Okay, I mean same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I think Kevin Owens. I can see Kevin Owens. I
would want to.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
See Kevin Owens.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And on that same tip, I could say Sammy's a
possibly even because he could you know, his size and
weight class and stuff right there for a.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like he's already made the money. I feel like he's
already done the wrestleman. He's made the money. You know,
maybe he just wants to light schedule on the ability
to work with his friends.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yep, I could see Bailey.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Who is that Bailey?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
I was just gonna say that, yes, totally.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
She needs a whole new start because she hasn't found
her glitch yet.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
You know, well I know, but she.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Not that, but like everything else that goes with it,
Like I can see Bailey wanting to start all over
and do it again.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I definitely feel like because I feel like Bailey twenty
twenty was great and then I don't know, after her interest,
she came back and I feel like she kind of
got pushed behind everyone else, like she kind of unfairly
lost her spot. She kind of like was Drew bletso
out of Tom Brady, she kind of thrown to the
back when the next new thing came about.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yea, I was actually gonna say I could see her
going into Ring of Honor with Athena and just ruling
that division together. But it's just because they're both so Powerhousey's.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
As Billy Starks has taken out my girl's going to
win the title. She's taken a Theatina just called out
Lexi being her bestie and Billy saying thanks for forgetting
about me.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, I think, but there I would she would really
I think be able to shine there.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I mean it's hard because I feel like right now,
everyone who's kind of like pushed her at the top,
you don't see them leaving because they're.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
In great stories.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So I guess you kind of going out like Shinsk,
like maybe someone who has been forgotten recently, like shins
ks can always had a hot and cold push. I
can see him getting like a fresh start in aw
and you know, getting a chance to work CMLLL someone
that maybe he hasn't got to work and get to
work his style again because when he went to Noah,
I mean, he was incredible. They were like, oh my god,
shins K is back. But he's never been He's never
(32:52):
been gone. He's just he's just hot and cold.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Push what about Rasteria.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, not with his son.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I think the I don't think his body would really
let him do too much anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'd like to, but I do like get out of here.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
But I do like the shins Kay knackamor one because
I think he'd excel because you have Okada and you
have these people that he's worked with, you know, in
Japan for years and everything else, and like you said,
getting back to himself a little bit more because he's
not as charismatic and flamboyant I guess and stuff anymore.
In certain ways he tries to be, but it just
seems maybe a little forced.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
It's weird. It was like he had a really good
run with he was doing that thing against Cody and
then he just like it's stopped. And I think that's
suspen his booking and the stuff. I remember. I was
to end this probably like thirty seconds. I was at
Madia thirty four and just how that you want talking
about match Ma? What was when he low blown Agy
Styles like, this is really what we're gonna do after
postmatch now is like instead of you know, we just
(33:50):
But I think that's why people say, oh, you know,
some fans only like dream matches, like because to me
or Timmy had dream match, it was Shenanigans because they
want to keep it going and that at least old booking. No,
I don't know about so much new book and we
haven't seen that yet. But the old Fitnie back air
was I'll give you this match three more times before it's.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Good, string you along for four years.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, I'd like.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
To see AJ come over Styles.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah, I would too, but I just don't think it'll
happen where his age and everything is. I think he's
trying to kind of get set for the future.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
It'd be nice to see him reinventing himself again.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I'd just like to see him come wrestle everybody, because man,
there's some good matches.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
AJ Styles gonna have. Jesus Rachel like this one.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So this one comes from Tony Jackson. Your honest opinion
of Tony Storm.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I like Tony Storm timeless Tony Storm. I think that
she did really good going from the misfits or whatever
they were called out path into the new role that
she's in. I think that she has a lot of potential,
but I seek her losing the belt this next time,
(35:05):
Like I think she's run her match and everything and
so she's done. But yeah, I like timeless Tony Storm, Yes,
And I love her new character. That's so great.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I was, I was a fan beforehand.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I learned about her, like before the oh, the women's
tournament they had for WW.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah classic, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
So I did a little bit before that and then
saw her and then got to see her several times
with that UK run with the belt and everything else,
and then a little bit with the main roster and everything.
And I always thought she was good, had talent or everything,
but she really took this timeless gimmick and really ran
with it because honestly, at the beginning, I didn't know
if it was going to be what it is. Yeah,
(35:49):
it kind of was wishy washy, you know, and she
really told and she took it in one hundred percent
and really went after it, you know, and worked with
what she had.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
And look what a fucking that she's champion.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
And I love the black and white whenever it changed.
That's cool RJ City and that.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
I mean, he's been one of the biggest things I
think for her career right now, to get with her
and really work this out and go like I said,
one hundred percent. So I think she's doing well and
I think this is a good reinvention, and I'm curious
to see what the future holds whenever everything kind of
changes again.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I like that it's like a very sunset boulevard what
happened to Baby Jane vibe where she's just senting into
madness and she's slipping and she's starting to lose touch
of reality, and I think, like you just said, what
she loses the title all in, I think she's going
to break even more and it's gonna be a whole
nother dimension.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
M h.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think her character is just going to get deeper
and deeper. I think I don't know what a nineteen
seventies movie star looks like. I just think of like
modeling wise because of America's next top Model, But I
don't know what somebody would look like in a movie
set with this. But I can see her trying insitioning
into different decades.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
After she breaks so cool that would that's.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, like just slowly comes back to color because I
don't think she can come back to present time until
she's fully broken away from what's going on. She's like
almost mentally insane.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right, speaking of I say, yes, it's kind of like
when Crowbayr was saying that he invented this kimmick too.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
To talk about that.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
After Wyatts.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Oh it was good.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
But mm hmm, that's good. I love very white.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
A long one, all right, So this one says the
worst ever Christ Jericho ever.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Since joining A Yes, I was hoping we got this one.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But I think that you meant to say our favorite match.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
No, he meant to say worse because he's had some stinkers.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Oh, I totally know I have a favorite.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't have a worse.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Oh there's plenty of worst.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He's got to come bad ones.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
This last one that he just had this Wednesday, and
all they did was clap each other, like seriously.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yet, Yeah, but that's what Suzuki style is, not Jericho.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
Yes, but I would say my favorite match would probably
be him and Kenney Omega. I thought that was really good.
I thought that was a good match.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I can't think of the actual match, but I know,
like that kind of post COVID era where he came
in a little out of shape because of some different
things happened in his life and everything else.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
I know he had a couple there that were pretty.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Rough to deal with a little bit because he wasn't,
you know, in prime shape, and he you know, didn't.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Look like himself, so you could kind of tell.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
But I would say that was kind of I can't
think of the exact matches, but I would say that
was kind of that time frame I think of.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I think that match with Hoovey during like the Holy
Labors of Jericho, they just had no chemistry together in
that match, I think who he had kind of lost
the step. Jericho was trying too much to like recreate magic,
and anytime he faced Co Cobana those I've never seen
two people have less chamistry than him in Co Cobana
because I don't know if it was like him just
(39:24):
not wanted to be over the top comedy like Cold
Cabana or too much. But I didn't enjoy it when
they wrestled, so I think those kind of stand out.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And then.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I don't remember exactly, but there was like a match
where it was him in the inner Circle against I
mean they faced a lot of people, but what was
that one that was all out? It was a wicked
cluster anyway.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
But on the football field, no, that's a.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Guy like that one. It was No, they like tried
to it was. I think I think it was one
of the Don Kallis fans for they not down Callous
Family the America's top team.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Then that all of the America's top team.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
But they went through the belts. That was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, that was just.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
But I'd say pure wrestling wise, definitely Hoovey Jericho, like
because I saw Hoovitude and Jericho would go at in
like the early nineties and WW so like as an
older fan seen that, you're like, oh, that means I'm
old because they're old.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Favorite.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean, I know yours is most in Mayhem, so
the same. I think my favorite is different. My favorite's
probably still I'd say hangman Jericho at the very first
all out just because he won the title and you
didn't know what to expect, and I think Jericho showed
he still had it. I think a lot of people
(40:46):
will give that match. They'll give enough credit because I
think every knew he was gonna win, so I think
they kind of downrated the match because of that, But
I think it really showed me how good Hangman was,
and like it showed too that Jericho still had a
step and he elevated title. Kind of to me, it's
a big moment. So I think that match is one
of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I go there, Oh, well, that's my favorite. But my
least favorite would be Hook versus Jericho because that's when
I noticed things were kind of like not as fun
as they used to be for Jericho. It was a
kind of like rude awakening.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Oh they were in that crowd. They were in that
crowd when they were when they were chanting out Jericho
to retire.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
We were like, that was a very rude awakening for me.
But my other favorite match is actually the Cruise match
where it was Jericho and Dan House and against the Guns.
That was pretty good selling like no other some notes
from Shawn Michaels because they came.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Clear the gear their gear.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah alright, well yet for time for another topic or two?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, Oh, separate a tag team from the past and
push one of them like from the past, Like, so,
do you want me to go first? Because I have
a pretty good one.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Sure, sure, So I.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Think that if you separated HOWK and Animal and pushed Animal,
I think that he would have done really well as
a singles wrestler, like an icy type guy.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
I mean he kind of had. He did when circumstances happened.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
N I didn't really watch during that timeframe, but I
just know, like, no, I'm just telling you I've seen.
I think that Animal could have done really well. Not
that they didn't do great together, but Animal could have
done really well on his own. He had a great presence.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I discreaming they were they were to get they were
magic together. I can't see them being singles because it's
they're They're that perennial tag team.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I don't think they hated each other at the end
of the day.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
They didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
They did not hate each other.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
He may he may have hated some of the actions
that caused the team to have attached bentle think because
he talks gushingly.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
When we met him about his run.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
I would say, the Rockers, Marty Jivenni, would you push Marty.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Never Marty tried to dive through the window.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I mean, technically they did split up and sewn Michaels
did go so and had a great career. Marty tried
and didn't probably work the same. It's the wrestling for
a while, it just wasn't the the same. So he
kind of did get his chance. Because you got to remember,
there's quite a few tag teams that this did happen to.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
It is kind of tough at times because a lot
of them do that.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
I know, Okay, let me.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
If you say the Hardys they both did have single
run you know what I mean, The Dudley Boys, they
had their single runs.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
You split everyone up eotentially, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
So it gets kind of tough at times.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
I think the Brisker Brothers would have been good at
the single run, both.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Of them, besides Mark kind of Jay was three time
ring them on her two time ring them on her
World champ like, so that's tough too.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
The Rock and Roll Express, like I mean, back in
the day when they were at their peak, maybe one
of the I think seeing like Ricky Morton as a.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Single run, yeah he could.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I think he kind of had that you know charisma
and boy, you know, flamboyance and kind of theris.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Like I said, the chrisma and the big hair and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, it's hard because I feel like they always try
to identify the tag team, like who's the struggling and
they always end up pushing one. Like I think the
reason why UCM was because they pushed it because he
did have more of the ring presence. He had more
that you know, Hawk was more of them gonna I'm
gonna hurt you, I'm gonna do what I can knock
you down, and animals, more psychology. So I think that's
(44:40):
why it makes sense. And I'm not I wasn't dismissing
that at all. It's just hard because when someone's a
perennial tag team, it's hard to see them. So that's
why that's a hard question too, because when they're a
perennial tag team, it's like, well, they've had forever. But
then you go back, like Jeff was saying, yeah, you
go back through WF You're like, nope, they had to run.
I was thinking, like Acolytes, nope, freukratch, I had to run.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
How about how about Yeah, I mean you could do
let's okay, I'll use top flight and I'll says Mark,
I was just gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Left out.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I love you, Darius, you.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Just makes magic.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
So I'm trying to think of some people like that,
because you can't really say Frankie Kazarian and Christopher Daniels
because they've both done their singles thing.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
You know, it's just yes, Montees would be a modern
example of a team that. But I feel like they've
been teasing that break up for I don't know hard
because sometimes some people are they're more magic attack team
because sometimes they're having that second person to help me,
the bird in their ear of like, hey, let's do
this now. Sometimes I think that's why some people work
as a tag team versus the singles is they can
(45:49):
bounce off each other better versus ticking out the fly.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
All right, I'm gonna be controversial. We're gonna spill the
tea for Drew nor and what or talent could have done?
Could a e W.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Have Yes, I have a lot of these.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Honestly, Ego Ethan Page did nothing in a e W.
They could have sent him to w W.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
Sooner seem.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
Like he didn't do ship.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I'm sorry he did, but not worth it.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
No, he was not worth it.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
In the end because he did bring eyes to the
product and help because of the name value and everything.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
I get it, but yeah, it kind of was a
little bit more of a detriment.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I think, Miro. I mean, I think I don't know
Mark Henry.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Paid more than the catchphrase Big Show to say. I mean,
now he's on Ring of Honor as a gentleman from
Big Show. What has he been doing for I know
he's been here, but like, okay, so I say, Dan Housen,
he prints money on the indies. He's one of the
biggest straws. He comes into a w then he disappears.
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So I'm not saying these are because I don't like
the wrestlers. I just think the system of aw doesn't
fit Dan Housen, Parker Boudreaux, that that weird must leave,
and then that slim Jay, the one from Albus most
wanted those Oh my.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
God, Yeah, that poor kids.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
I'll be looking since I said top to page Man's aunt.
She had one match, they signed her and she never wrestled.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You're going to spill the tea on.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I just know, I know, take some of yours already, Mercedes.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I did say that one.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I'm surprised that Emily didn't say pak. To be honest
with you, I.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Mean, is a given everybody knows.
Speaker 7 (47:58):
I can't stand that stupid, That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yes, he was definitely we could have done without, but
he did a lot in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I think getting getting him out of wrestling, getting him
out of retirement into wrestling, bringing him in, getting the
eyes on the product. I think it was fine. I
think at the end of the day, he wanted it
to be like w B. He wanted to run the
way he wanted to run it. He didn't like the
way it was running. He wrestling's full of personalities, egos,
et cetera. I think because of all the drama the
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following out, I think it maybe it would never would
have fit in, but I think unfortunately he had to go.
I think it's a stop in his career.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
But what about Cody.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Honestly, I think Cody was right because without Cody, I
don't I don't really think. I don't really think there
would have been a I think he was kind of
like that last like like he was that last nail
to help kind of prop up the side of AW I.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Don't think we would have gotten Dustin if we didn't.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Have Yeah, I don't think we'd have had that double
nothing moment. I don't think we would have had Dustin
as a trainer. I don't think we'd had Cody really,
but I don't think we would have had Cody understand
the social media integration. I think he help bring social
media integration and better.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
I just thought of somebody sunny Kiss.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
I wish she'd still be well, I wish they or
she would have been around. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
I like that, and she'll be on the cruise, so
I'm excited to see her again.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Yes, yes, agreed.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well let's leave on a late note. A right, last question,
no time limit, fantasy book and.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
All in match, fancy book and all in match.
Speaker 7 (49:41):
So two people I want to see fighting a.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Storyline?
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Either, No, it could be anybody you want.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
I'd like Secret Baker and CEO go at it.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
You're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
That well, but yeah, that would be the top one.
Speaker 7 (50:05):
I'd like to see the two Rhodes brothers go at
it too again. Yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
See that again, honestly, like I could see that a
million times.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
Yeap, So go ahead, so go ahead. Who you got me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (50:29):
Or Emily?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Either one go first up?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Because I ricochet ospray get them back. I want it
to be big, big stage.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
That's somebody who forgot to say about coming aw from
WW right there, ricochect.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I just think it's a matter of time for him.
Maybe he didn't needed some time off. Samantha posted some
risky pictures. I think she's trying to Mandy Rose herself risque.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
I don't think she's.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Trying to get herself fired just because just because her man,
just because her man's a free agent isn't me.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
She has to quare a job correct.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Come together right now?
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Oh yep.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
For females, I would love Mariah and Jamie to have
a match together.
Speaker 7 (51:23):
I think that would be.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Really cool at all in in their home country.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
About like Chris versus Hater.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I'd like to see that one everybody.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
I think nostalgia. I'd like to see the Bucks versus
Edge and Christian essentially, I'd like to see it healthy
because I think that would be fun to see kind
of like the past, you know what I mean, like
everything collide. I would I think too serious. Booking Osprey
probably like an Osprey FedEx, like Osprey Phoenix together, give.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Kill Switch, turn ye all in I would love Can
I just fantasy book that in itself comes back?
Speaker 6 (52:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:09):
But how about this, I would just we have the
very first ever lightweight Battle Royal where it's just every
everyone who does like Commander, all the looys, and then
just in they can establish it. I don't care the
whole too many ties. They can make a whole like
lucid or title, make a louchi or tail that they
travel around with, have it defended in CML, have it
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defended everywhere, make it like a light heavyweight international, or
make the international title that title.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
We can come back tom cruiser weight even because I
mean the old old standard a cruiser weight was what
two twenty and below or whatever. Yeah, I mean that
standard can be achieved by a lot of different people,
which means that belt can be taken anywhere, and which
I mean I would.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
See like a Dante Martin bill to go in there
with like a gravity like you wouldn't see one on one.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Mustafa Ali is now a free agent, he is.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
I would definitely enjoy seeing staff a.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah, I'd definitely like to see a fantasy booking match
with the outrunners versus like FTR or somebody.
Speaker 9 (53:12):
That their styles well because they can work together, but
they would bring and they would bring in a ton
of you know, the comedic and selling part where FDR.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
You know, they do at times get.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
They're so serious and you know, go at it all
the time, but every once in a while they do kind
of get a little bit more light, you know. So
I think it'd be cool to see them in a
match like the Outrunners or somebody who are more of
a comedic but can.
Speaker 5 (53:35):
Work with somebody that's known for being real serious. You know.
I think that who they.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Who, they should do selfishly have one of the cruise.
But I don't think the guns will come back on
the cruise. I think they're over. If the guns come
back on the cruise, bring that Runners back. Let's have
the guns versus the Outrunners. I think the guns are
as the Outrunners would be such a fun, entertaining match
of over selling nonsense.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yes, yeah, maybe not like fully televised because.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
It's because it's a house show. Yeah, it's like a
house show.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Or even a Ring of Honor even I would that
would be awesome, just something like that to see and
then of course you know I want to see, uh.
Speaker 7 (54:11):
What about and.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Well AJ is not there, so you can't really fantasy book.
I mean, if we're doing that, then I want to
see like AJ will or something then or something like
that or AJ Swerve.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
I don't know. I want to see Aj with somebody
like that.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
I would to see Aga rum and rings.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
Then we're fantasy booking like real where we can just
you know, do whatever. That's different. Yes, I know, I
see you down here. I got friends circling me.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
All. That was definitely some turmoil and some fun. So
thank you to Jeff and Rachel for joining us for
topic turmoil and unless do you have anything else to
say before you sign off?
Speaker 2 (54:58):
M good.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
That's right bearing through my raspy voice, the tech issues
and all the other fun joys of summer. So hope
everyone enjoyed the topic turmoil and got a little bit
of information from it, and until next time, always keep
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Emily, and today we're joined by the infamous Rachel and Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yes we are, and we're here to do some topic
turmoil three. Where as Bishop would say three minutes. There's
a topic in the tiebow of fun. I don't know
whether you still have your nicknamed for this thing yet,
and there's a random topic in there. We're gonna pull
it out. We're gonna take turns of discussing that topic
for three minutes, and it's kind.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Of a right about.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
We have some of the ones from our listeners on
there as well, so this could be anything from your
favorite gear design to I saw some pretty existential questions
and I think I saw one that was like most
emotional connected wrestler. So there's some pretty layup ones in there.
There's someone's gonna make you think. So I think she
pulled the first topic for Jeff and Rachel. So we'll
put three minutes on the clock and actually, yeah, we'll
(01:24):
put three on the clock and we'll have them go.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's the topic.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Name a world famous wrestler known to the mainstream that
hasn't done it through Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, that's a hard question.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
But with just wrestling, so has done it, but only
just because of their wrestling.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, and I want to shout out Daniel Soul for
that one.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's a hard question though.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And Okay, so they made they pretty much were famous
just through wrestling, but didn't use any like Hollywood or
mainstream like.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Like John Cena correct or like The Rock or.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Things along those lines. Oh well, you got anything off
the top of your head with no Hollywood, because that's
where it kind of makes hardest one to begin with.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I have I kind of have an answer for this
if we want to skip them and go to but if.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You want to, if you have one, you have two
minutes if you want to do you.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Guys wanna Yeah, you can go ahead if you like.
If you got somebody in mind, and then I can
think you think I.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Got a good one. Jake the Snake. Nice Jake the
Snake is somebody that if you mentioned them, people kind
of know who he is. They they know the name.
They're like, oh, yeah, that's the guy that had the snake.
That's you know, people kind of know who he is.
And he's a reputable name. Depending on who you talk to,
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pretty much everyone knows them.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But they're saying mainstream.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So I'm gonna cut you off into Jacks because there's
someone who I consider more mainstream that make snake the
help take the Snake. I'll talk about DP with DDP Yoga.
I think he's true will be the one that's when you.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
First he was in movies though, so it's kind.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Of a true. I know he wasn't ready to rumble
a couple of movies, but I don't think he really
got his breakout through Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Dust or something to in one of those or something.
He's a bound No, No, he's in like a rob
zombie one. He's one of the bounty hunters.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Also, yeah, it's like the Devil's Rejects or something like
that along the lines. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a
hard question because this one first been.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
A couple of cos becent bout movies.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
But what about like Rick Flair. You know, he hasn't
really had a lot of like movie in mainstream, but
he has done commercials. He has done so you know
what I mean, that's kind of a really tough question.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Good question.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I was gonna say, does I mean Roddy Piper? I
wasn't originally say too, but obviously they live is very infamous.
But like, it's hard because I think there was such
a co mingling of wrestling stars in Hollywood in the
nineties and early two thousands.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
That stratus No I was gonna say movie.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh yeah, that's a very tough question. And then Daniel
we did.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, some of the Olympics with a broken freaking neck.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
That's yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I mean it's still wrestling, it's just amateur eight years
ago too.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, nice, let's get let's get another topic out. And
actually I kind of like the roundtable format better. Let's
do roundtable three minutes and it works better.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A minute and a half each side kind of deal
or something or back and forth.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, what's the next one? We got folded?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm going to give the names first. So this one
is from.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Oh the Worst, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So Romiro. So this is from Romeiro and it's a wrestler.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Or talent a e W could have pushed for a
title run.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So a wrestler or a talent that eight W could
or should push for a title run.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Okay, well, I'll guess I'll jump in with one. Somebody
would haven't seen it in a while, and I know
there's some talking whatever, but I'm going more singles title
right here. But like Ricky Starks, for example, would have
been someone I would have loved to see, you know,
with a belt of a singles run or something along
those lines.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
You got somebody your Yeah, I would.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Really like to see Nick Wayne, like for him to
wrestle more because I think that he has the talent,
but he hasn't been in there because he's in Christian
cages like Shadow.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Change.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
But anyways, yeah, i'd like to see Nick Wayne come out.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, what about you?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I was gonna say, like a TNT kind of run.
I would like to see m I had them, I
lost them. That's how Daniel Garcia, that's what I want
for a T and T run.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
He doesn't do the dance really much.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, he's going to be getting rid of his dancing
and coming back as Red Death, which is somebody we've seen.
Maybe we'll see some Kevin Blackwood, but like, I would
love to see a TNT run with him because I
think that he would hold a good feud.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So I had three names for three different titles right now,
and you took one of them. But so I'm gonna
subsitue Brody King for a T and T title run.
I think he would make an awesome T and T champion,
top flight in a trios I'd like to see top
flight at those trios titles. And then just to pop
Jeff R. H tag titles New York, the Outrunners, the
youngest man in the room.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That was good.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We at least that that wasn't hard to think about
as much more about who we want booking it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Obviously, Jamie Hater is gonna come back and go on
a women's title run, So that's fine.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
I just told you we saw her at the real me.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yes, well, she's got to get some matches in and
get her you know.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah, we've seen her wrestle. She's really good.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
When we went to w A m H and that's
what she was there.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
We saw her for her title run which she had
there for two and a half years or whatever the
heck it was in n w A.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Two of those that'd be a good one.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
The same height style, Yes, an opponent too.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I like that we're getting like that the old diesel
shot Michaels, like the enforceer role, like it's kind of
thrown back to that old style like you got the
cocky heel and then you got the big force of
like I'm gonna do you. Zry work a great role
to bring her in.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And then when the.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Renegade Twins joined her a little mone faction, it'll be interesting.
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm happy to hear that rumor too, because I've seen
the Renegade Wins several times.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
They're good, They're good, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So this one comes from dez were fame reaction to
a face or heel turn.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh, I got some good ones in that one.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
I don't heel.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Turn my face. When Cody Rhodes came out with black.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Hair, God, do you have any jack? I wrote him down.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Go ahead, I'll let you do your well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I have big cast. Turning on Enzo. I think that
was a complete what the heck? When he turned into you,
why you're nothing with no to me me at the time,
You're like you're nothing without Enzo.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
This makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Bobby Rude when he randomly became a face after his
NXT run, we had his whole the glorious one that
he came to round. He was like a smiling, happy
Robert Rude, and I was like this that's a you know,
but the all time one stone cold that Wrestlmating seventeen
when he aligned with a big man. I don't think
I've ever seen a crowd not boo that he went
hel but boo, like what the is this?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah? What do you do? And this was like your
mortal enemy guy?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And now she's a slightly distracted one of our friends
that I had dinner with tonight from the softball team. Uh,
he proposed to her after at the hotel when they
went back. So she's a slightly distracted now, So.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Congratulations, Yes, he's that a slightly distracted.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So sorry about that, because I know I had a
couple in my head too that were real downers because
you thought it was going to be a big push
and it, you know, a big.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
And they didn't.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I know a couple And I'm just a little bit
blank right now. So go ahead and moved past me
on this one.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well that's that's not a Healer face.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Turn, I would say the but okay, so I'm just
going to say the best one that I've ever seen
with the Healer, and the face turn would be the
whole Kogan whenever he came out for me in the
yellow and the red out and he ended up becoming
like the bad guy the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm just surprised Emily didn't go with an easy win
and just say big show, because then you don't have
to say which one? Alright, what we got for show?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Okay, he wouldn't listen to Rachel and I.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I still love that. Coco asked him, wow, you got
really tiny hands, you got really big hands. What do
you expect me tiny?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Like?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's still love you, Coco aka foot So where are
we have the next topic? I should send that to him.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm going to do a non fan one.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Non fan it's basically an Emily one.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We'll go.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
An a E. W.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Starr.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You could see going to the w W.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, I really don't want to see any of them
in the reality because i'd like to see them get
worked in at AEW first at least. I mean, I
hate to say it, but the guy I mentioned earlier,
it could be a possibility with Ricky just because of
how he's being used and whatever else. And I hate
to say that, but I think it could be a
(11:16):
possibility because he's very charismatic and he's kind of you know,
got some of that stuff they really liked with some
previous guys that rock rock style and some of that
type stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
So I hate to say it, but I can.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, So I could see him possibly going that'd be one.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I think wardlow. I think I can see ward logoing.
He's got the size if they're like like a brown breaker.
I feel like his booking has been awful in the EW,
so I feel like he's he doesn't have much to stay.
For britt Baker, I could see her eventually making the
jump back to sea to try it out, but those
are I mean, I don't I don't think she I
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think she would be like like holy craft that you
got her kind.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Of moment, but.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Because I don't think Ricky would be realistic.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, And I don't think's leaving.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I know he's been rumors and you know all that,
but I think DG likes where you're at. You know,
I think he's like, hey, this is you know the
company I went to you from the indies that's making
my name, and I want to do it here and
then maybe try to do something else.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And they already kind of showed him he's going a
main events storyline versus having to go into maybe some
people don't want to go to NXT because they don't
I'm not saying NXT is starting over anything, but some
people don't want that because they feel, especially if they've
been on television, they kind of feel like it's a
lateral move or a backwards move. But again, I mean,
I think they wouldn't keep mentioning him in storyline on
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TV every week if they didn't have really good faith
that he was about to sign.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Or it's more of a semantics.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Correct Rachel, anybody you think would leave AW to go
to WW.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Like Ricky wardlow DG. We don't think it's leaving.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Is there anybody think realistically could leave AW to go
to w W right now?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I could see timeless Tony Storm doing it.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
There. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I think she's like another Cody Road, you know where
she was there and then she came to a e
W made herself and then go back and then she'll
be the winner again because she.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Was mainly n xt U K right when she was
she was mainly in the UK stuff, so maybe that
proving ground for her.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Maybe I think she had.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
A really great NXT UK and n xt US run,
but when she got to the main TV they just
dismantled any momentum she had. The lack of better terms
cream tied her back.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
What so, what's our next one?
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I don't like CEO. Ce O can go back to
w W E.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean, yeah, I'm guessing Rachel's not a fan.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I am not a fan of her.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
She doesn't like her character and like that type of
stuff more so than like her in ring work. I'm like,
she can go in the fucking ring. You can't even
argue that point. Like she's smooth for the most part,
like her stuff flows pretty good. It's hard to.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Deny that fact.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oh no, she definitely rubs off to the wrong way
because the comments will see even just mentioning her name
and brings out some of the people who are.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like, I hate her.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm not saying you have to always like the person,
but I agree with Jeff, like I can't deny her
ring ring prowess. I mean helps Stephanie back cor get noticed.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, and look where she went.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
She has the door right, So the next.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
One it has to be an Emily one. I don't
remember writing this, but do you prefer pants, trunks or
shorts style?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Now, if we're going to old school, I would say
trunks because that's kind of just you know what it was,
so that's what you're kind.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Of used to.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
You did see some singlets and some pants and stuff,
but not really in earlier wrestling. It kind of was
more eighties with the characters and costumes that they started,
you know what I mean, and things like that. So
if I go traditionally, I say trunks. But then if
I'm going for the more modern and costume and design
(15:30):
type things, I would say it's probably more towards the
pants because you can kind of do more, I think
a little bit more fabric, a little bit more things
to be able to kind of put your flare and
things like that.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
So I would say that, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
But then as a guy, yeah, I'm definitely going like
the pants or the boy short type shorts instead of
the trunks, you know, because it's dude running around in speedo.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
But it well, yeah, I like the whole Tarzan one
where they cut the cross. Yeah that's one and then
they like take it all. Yeah, So that would be
the one that I that I likes.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
The wrestling singlet.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah I do, so.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I need to go. Yeah, she's taking the dog out.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I I think I'm always kind of partially. I think
it depends on the gimmick. I think I always thought
it was weird when some like rich person was like,
I'm the richest person and then they wrestle in like
plain black trunks. You're like, you're so rich you can't
by wrestling gear. So I think it really depends out
you have someone.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Like pants, I don't want to see that though.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
We've got a good phasique too. I think that's part
of it. Some of it's your body type as well.
I mean I would wear it, but I don't need
to be in the trunks, you know how. I need
to get some pants and probably are singlet help hold
some of the smoking in.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
I think Keith Lee does very good job with what
he wears, or.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Kevin Owens, you know, they try to to not go
above their body type.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
And things like that.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yeah, they're not like Otis.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, but I don't know. This kind of makes it
work though too.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, hilarious with it. But then you've got like Bear Bronson,
they hold themselves really well on the independence. You have
other bigger guys that hold themselves really well as well.
I don't know how much time we have like forty
I think. Yeah, again, it depends on their style, it
depends on their physique. But I think, where would you
(17:32):
want to wear where you're comfortable and even if you
see it, it's okay, you're comfortable exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
For the next one, I'll tell it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
At least once.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
This one is from top fan justin Calhoun and ending
to a match that left you blank.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Well, I will use the one of Daniel, you know,
Brian Danielson and Will Osprey. It left me pretty happy,
pretty excited, uh, kind of worn out in the way
just because it's pretty awesome match and the emotions and
the intensity and just you know, enjoying it and getting
into it and cheering and all that. Yeah, it was
(18:23):
pretty awesome. Kind of maybe this maybe it left me
partially speechless.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
We'll say that here.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
I'm looking up.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
I got my mine's will Osprey too. Mind going to
be a will Osprey and m JF whenever they fought,
like I seriously thought he was going to take it
like an m JF only got it with like one arm.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Yeah, that was a that was a big match. I
really I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I think mainly me Brian, I would say Daniel
Brian and Seamus at WrestleMania when he basically Cassay took
bro kick and was done, I would say that kind
of left me like what happened? What Undertaker? Like you
said earlier, losing the streak, that one would be like emotionless.
(19:16):
I'm probably like anytime, like it's just a weird, abrupt ending,
like it's it's tired. But like those are the probably
to stick out the most. But like Victory Road twenty
eleven with Jeff and Sting, like where at the time
we didn't know what's going on and you have Jeff
Hardy coming out and Sting doing a scorpion death drop
and then the match.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Is just over.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You're like, yeah, what what is all the shenanigans going on?
And any find out behind the scenes after it was issues.
But I think those are the matches I think I
remember most going.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
What I did a fucking right whenever Rock finally got
over on Stone Cold at WrestleMania, because I liked both,
but you know, it was two to nothing and I
was wanting to see Rock finally get something.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Oh yeah, no, they had to give Mania nineteen. That
would have been kind of an insult even if Stone
Cold was were tired.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You can't have the rock. Oh and three, that's what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
And then Hogan, Hogan the Rock. That would be another
one that'd be up there. Oh Goldberg Orton when he
won his first title and became the youngest world champion, that
was another fucking right moment.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That was kind of shocking.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I wasn't necessarily thinking they would go that way with
him at twenty three or whatever the hell he was,
so I'd say that was another one.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All right, did you have one more? Rachel? Before the
time was up?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
He said, Oh, Goldberg and brock Lessener, Like I can't
believe that he beat brock Cluster, Like seriously, come on now?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
That was and I love Goldberg's like one of my
top Yeah, I love Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Except the tile to Scare of the Cat.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
M all right, ooh perfect. What is your favorite Cruise match? Oh?
I can tell you mine is Kenny and Rio versus
Kip and Penelope.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That not even a good match.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It was a good match. I mean, that was one
of the first intergender matches I ever witnessed, and I
thought it was so cool just to see the different
styles matchup. Everything about it was like, we need Penelope
back in the ring. Her gymnast style is so fun
to watch mixed with kIPS like hard hit. I don't know,
(21:30):
it was just really love.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
It was a good match. I agree. I agree.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Now I would say, do we disclude the dynamite matches
from this conversation and just do actual cruise matches.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think I think they'd include their apping on the cruise.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Okay, well, I mean obviously first title change ever in
aw history. Asked the rank up there pretty high, and
then I would say, what was it? Speedball Mike Bailey
and Oku, yeah for that, because as that was Mike
Bailey had probably two of the better actual matches on
the boat ever in my opinion, as far as like
(22:09):
actually wrestling and doing more of the hard hitting moves
and keeping it to a hard hitting match, you know,
instead of well we're gonna break off a little comedy,
you know and do some of this. No, they just
you know, they did a little bit, but they went
hard at each other. So I think that was a
really good one too, just as a more serious cruise match.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
About you, Rachel, I've been thinking, wait, I know, I
totally had it it was right, Oh, I got it. Okay,
So my favorite was I know, I was like seriously
(22:53):
Pentagon and Phoenix this last cruise because okay, well Pentagon
was yeah, because he like walked the ropes the whole
time and everything I thought.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I thought he didn't really get.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Wayne. Yes, I forgot about and I have Hangman versus
somebody else in the drinking competition on the second cruise, Frank, Yes,
they didn't still drinks. They were flipping. They were doing
all sorts of crazy. Yes, they had something when they
did a flip.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They drank before they started everything.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Private Party versus Jurassic Express had the little shot cups
or the red solo cups. That was maybe that one
you're thinking of, because they did do a role with
their cups.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
What's the next one?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
All right? From Dez discuss how wrestling March used to
be cool foam earns and Teddy Bears. Now it's t shirts.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Oh so hold on read the one more time.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So if merchant wrestling merch has changed.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Or used Okay, so like the evolution kind of it.
I mean some of the hokey shit used to be
the best stuff. I mean I miss and that's not
even hokey to have like lunch boxes and thermoses and
some of that. I mean, could you imagine having like
an earned thermos? Fucking dope as shit? So I mean
some of that kind of cheesy ish, I guess, not hokey,
(24:29):
but cheesy. Some of that stuff was awesome, but I
do understand, you know that the world has changed in
society and stuff, so I could see how maybe some
of that would be more of the kid oriented base.
But I still like some of that stuff. But I
definitely like shirts.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
I would like to see more.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Signs. I know it's not merch, but I kind of
miss a sign era in the stance.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
That yeah scientist again.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
As I think, I mean, like I look behind you,
you see the film fingers. I miss good film fingers.
I think film fingers are always one of my favorite.
Novelt he's like having the r v D thumbs. Those
are some of my favorite. The two sweets, the w.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
A wolf from the wolf Pack.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
If anybody for sale, please don't well it says no,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Also, I think POGs those are cool and W had
POGs those were cool, I remember. And then the ice
cream sandwiches, not the ones they brought back recently, but
the original good humor ones. That's what I think of.
I like, I like you have the hook here the
bed because me, wrestling has always been Carnie and stupid.
I want Carnie and stupid.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Well, it's entertainment.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's supposed to be suspending reality and disbelief in a way,
you know.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I mean, well, you don't see any wrestlers like promoting
anything like wait, what what, well, no, I'm talking about
like food, like macho man.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean Nick Foley had a whole the what do
you call it, the Ravioli thing for a while, it's
over stuffed ravili.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
L A. Knight took over.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well, el A Knight's freaking doing flut gyms or whatever
not in me.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yes, and then Ric Flair's doing some insurance again well,
I mean Ric Flayers Brokes.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Does every commercial if you listen, he keeps it going.
He really trolls.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Everybody knows.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
He's probably one of the nicest wrestlers though, I would say.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Fans, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, good answer.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Tell me how you feel scripted? Yeah yeah, oh perfect,
your favorite little lost spray match?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh jeez, Well, I mean entertainment wise and just kind
of sheer oftenness is obviously him and Ricochet.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I was thinking of that too.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I figured somebody had to you and I already said
him and Brian Danielson.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
And then she said m JS.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
So I'd have to go more like something maybe Will
and AJ Styles and Rev Bro when like twenty fourteen ish,
I want to say, when he was getting ready to
leave Japan and come he gave him kind of a
little rub and I think it was Rev Pro. I
think so that was a really good match that was
kind of under the radar. So I'm gonna throw that
(27:45):
out there. Well lost fravers AJ.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Styles, It's a good one.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
That a good match too.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I'll bring up for you sometime.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's a hard way to.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Think of because I think Will and Kenny when the
door happened, that's very iconic. But I know you have
probably a different Will and Kenny match.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, they only wrestled twice.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They have rustled three.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I thought wrestled twice. They haven't had a third one
yet yet. Probably Osprey Alkata the first time, just because
like final Boss moment there, the first Lance Archer match,
really the first Sills match, because I'm really sure what
Archer could do and I think the reason his song
is called Elevate is because I think he elevates everyone
(28:31):
in the ring with him. I think it's hard for
me to pick because I don't see a lot of
bad Osprey matches. That's because I think he can compensate
for overs in the ring. He can kind of adapt
to the style, kind of like a kard Angle could
where I'm not saying he's cardigle many means, but if
he knew you couldn't go grap for grap, you know,
he'll go and he'll keep your level off. But he
knows when it's archer's gonna throw a round, So he's
(28:52):
gonna sell a lot better, make more dominant, like he's
gonna turn himself inside out, versus like just taking to
make a basic flatback.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I gotta just something kind of off the wall, but
something I would like to see will Osprey versus Nick Nemics.
Can you figure this fucking selling in that match? Holy Ship?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It would be like Sean Michaels at WrestleMania.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Yeah, that's what I was saying. That would be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I want to see Osprey versus Mysticico.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I want to begone.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, Peza versus Ospray, there's a match out there, I
think from like two three years ago. Holy crap, when
he when he's like breaking fuck Puck, when he's like
breaking the fingers, it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Listen, I hate him, but he's so great. Him and
Osprey together, it was great.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It would be great any other promotion.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I'm telling you him with m JF.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Like really like them two did very well together because
m JF he's already in that role and then will
coming in like they I thought they did really, really
good together.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I was really surprised.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Oh, so speaker Spris, does Pock ever wear clothes? Because
every press conference I've seen Pocket, he's always in his
gear twenty four to seven, speaking of so one who
go back to V the people who wear their gear
twenty four to seven, that's such a w staple where.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
He doesn't have boiler room gear or you know, anything else.
He's a bastard in a boiler room, but he's naked.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
It always bugged me as a child to see people
walking backstage and it's like, you're not supposed to wrestle tonight,
but you're in your trunks. You Oh, you're not doing
anything now.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, the next question is what ww WE star do
you see going to a E w oh C or
what do you see them going? Okay, I mean same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I think Kevin Owens. I can see Kevin Owens. I
would want to.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
See Kevin Owens.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
And on that same tip, I could say Sammy's a
possibly even because he could you know, his size and
weight class and stuff right there for a.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like he's already made the money. I feel like he's
already done the wrestleman. He's made the money. You know,
maybe he just wants to light schedule on the ability
to work with his friends.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yep, I could see Bailey.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Who is that Bailey?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
I was just gonna say that, yes, totally.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
She needs a whole new start because she hasn't found
her glitch yet.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
You know, well I know, but she.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Not that, but like everything else that goes with it,
Like I can see Bailey wanting to start all over
and do it again.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I definitely feel like because I feel like Bailey twenty
twenty was great and then I don't know, after her interest,
she came back and I feel like she kind of
got pushed behind everyone else, like she kind of unfairly
lost her spot. She kind of like was Drew bletso
out of Tom Brady, she kind of thrown to the
back when the next new thing came about.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yea, I was actually gonna say I could see her
going into Ring of Honor with Athena and just ruling
that division together. But it's just because they're both so Powerhousey's.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
As Billy Starks has taken out my girl's going to
win the title. She's taken a Theatina just called out
Lexi being her bestie and Billy saying thanks for forgetting
about me.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, I think, but there I would she would really
I think be able to shine there.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I mean it's hard because I feel like right now,
everyone who's kind of like pushed her at the top,
you don't see them leaving because they're.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
In great stories.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So I guess you kind of going out like Shinsk,
like maybe someone who has been forgotten recently, like shins
ks can always had a hot and cold push. I
can see him getting like a fresh start in aw
and you know, getting a chance to work CMLLL someone
that maybe he hasn't got to work and get to
work his style again because when he went to Noah,
I mean, he was incredible. They were like, oh my god,
shins K is back. But he's never been He's never
(32:52):
been gone. He's just he's just hot and cold.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Push what about Rasteria.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, not with his son.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I think the I don't think his body would really
let him do too much anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'd like to, but I do like get out of here.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
But I do like the shins Kay knackamor one because
I think he'd excel because you have Okada and you
have these people that he's worked with, you know, in
Japan for years and everything else, and like you said,
getting back to himself a little bit more because he's
not as charismatic and flamboyant I guess and stuff anymore.
In certain ways he tries to be, but it just
seems maybe a little forced.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
It's weird. It was like he had a really good
run with he was doing that thing against Cody and
then he just like it's stopped. And I think that's
suspen his booking and the stuff. I remember. I was
to end this probably like thirty seconds. I was at
Madia thirty four and just how that you want talking
about match Ma? What was when he low blown Agy
Styles like, this is really what we're gonna do after
postmatch now is like instead of you know, we just
(33:50):
But I think that's why people say, oh, you know,
some fans only like dream matches, like because to me
or Timmy had dream match, it was Shenanigans because they
want to keep it going and that at least old booking. No,
I don't know about so much new book and we
haven't seen that yet. But the old Fitnie back air
was I'll give you this match three more times before it's.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Good, string you along for four years.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, I'd like.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
To see AJ come over Styles.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah, I would too, but I just don't think it'll
happen where his age and everything is. I think he's
trying to kind of get set for the future.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
It'd be nice to see him reinventing himself again.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I'd just like to see him come wrestle everybody, because man,
there's some good matches.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
AJ Styles gonna have. Jesus Rachel like this one.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So this one comes from Tony Jackson. Your honest opinion
of Tony Storm.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I like Tony Storm timeless Tony Storm. I think that
she did really good going from the misfits or whatever
they were called out path into the new role that
she's in. I think that she has a lot of potential,
but I seek her losing the belt this next time,
(35:05):
Like I think she's run her match and everything and
so she's done. But yeah, I like timeless Tony Storm, Yes,
And I love her new character. That's so great.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I was, I was a fan beforehand.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I learned about her, like before the oh, the women's
tournament they had for WW.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah classic, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
So I did a little bit before that and then
saw her and then got to see her several times
with that UK run with the belt and everything else,
and then a little bit with the main roster and everything.
And I always thought she was good, had talent or everything,
but she really took this timeless gimmick and really ran
with it because honestly, at the beginning, I didn't know
if it was going to be what it is. Yeah,
(35:49):
it kind of was wishy washy, you know, and she
really told and she took it in one hundred percent
and really went after it, you know, and worked with
what she had.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
And look what a fucking that she's champion.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
And I love the black and white whenever it changed.
That's cool RJ City and that.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
I mean, he's been one of the biggest things I
think for her career right now, to get with her
and really work this out and go like I said,
one hundred percent. So I think she's doing well and
I think this is a good reinvention, and I'm curious
to see what the future holds whenever everything kind of
changes again.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I like that it's like a very sunset boulevard what
happened to Baby Jane vibe where she's just senting into
madness and she's slipping and she's starting to lose touch
of reality, and I think, like you just said, what
she loses the title all in, I think she's going
to break even more and it's gonna be a whole
nother dimension.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
M h.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think her character is just going to get deeper
and deeper. I think I don't know what a nineteen
seventies movie star looks like. I just think of like
modeling wise because of America's next top Model, But I
don't know what somebody would look like in a movie
set with this. But I can see her trying insitioning
into different decades.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
After she breaks so cool that would that's.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, like just slowly comes back to color because I
don't think she can come back to present time until
she's fully broken away from what's going on. She's like
almost mentally insane.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right, speaking of I say, yes, it's kind of like
when Crowbayr was saying that he invented this kimmick too.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
To talk about that.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
After Wyatts.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Oh it was good.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
But mm hmm, that's good. I love very white.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
A long one, all right, So this one says the
worst ever Christ Jericho ever.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Since joining A Yes, I was hoping we got this one.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But I think that you meant to say our favorite match.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
No, he meant to say worse because he's had some stinkers.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Oh, I totally know I have a favorite.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't have a worse.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Oh there's plenty of worst.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He's got to come bad ones.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
This last one that he just had this Wednesday, and
all they did was clap each other, like seriously.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yet, Yeah, but that's what Suzuki style is, not Jericho.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
Yes, but I would say my favorite match would probably
be him and Kenney Omega. I thought that was really good.
I thought that was a good match.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I can't think of the actual match, but I know,
like that kind of post COVID era where he came
in a little out of shape because of some different
things happened in his life and everything else.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
I know he had a couple there that were pretty.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Rough to deal with a little bit because he wasn't,
you know, in prime shape, and he you know, didn't.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Look like himself, so you could kind of tell.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
But I would say that was kind of I can't
think of the exact matches, but I would say that
was kind of that time frame I think of.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I think that match with Hoovey during like the Holy
Labors of Jericho, they just had no chemistry together in
that match, I think who he had kind of lost
the step. Jericho was trying too much to like recreate magic,
and anytime he faced Co Cobana those I've never seen
two people have less chamistry than him in Co Cobana
because I don't know if it was like him just
(39:24):
not wanted to be over the top comedy like Cold
Cabana or too much. But I didn't enjoy it when
they wrestled, so I think those kind of stand out.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And then.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I don't remember exactly, but there was like a match
where it was him in the inner Circle against I
mean they faced a lot of people, but what was
that one that was all out? It was a wicked
cluster anyway.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
But on the football field, no, that's a.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Guy like that one. It was No, they like tried
to it was. I think I think it was one
of the Don Kallis fans for they not down Callous
Family the America's top team.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Then that all of the America's top team.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
But they went through the belts. That was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, that was just.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
But I'd say pure wrestling wise, definitely Hoovey Jericho, like
because I saw Hoovitude and Jericho would go at in
like the early nineties and WW so like as an
older fan seen that, you're like, oh, that means I'm
old because they're old.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Favorite.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean, I know yours is most in Mayhem, so
the same. I think my favorite is different. My favorite's
probably still I'd say hangman Jericho at the very first
all out just because he won the title and you
didn't know what to expect, and I think Jericho showed
he still had it. I think a lot of people
(40:46):
will give that match. They'll give enough credit because I
think every knew he was gonna win, so I think
they kind of downrated the match because of that, But
I think it really showed me how good Hangman was,
and like it showed too that Jericho still had a
step and he elevated title. Kind of to me, it's
a big moment. So I think that match is one
of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I go there, Oh, well, that's my favorite. But my
least favorite would be Hook versus Jericho because that's when
I noticed things were kind of like not as fun
as they used to be for Jericho. It was a
kind of like rude awakening.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Oh they were in that crowd. They were in that
crowd when they were when they were chanting out Jericho
to retire.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
We were like, that was a very rude awakening for me.
But my other favorite match is actually the Cruise match
where it was Jericho and Dan House and against the Guns.
That was pretty good selling like no other some notes
from Shawn Michaels because they came.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Clear the gear their gear.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah alright, well yet for time for another topic or two?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, Oh, separate a tag team from the past and
push one of them like from the past, Like, so,
do you want me to go first? Because I have
a pretty good one.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Sure, sure, So I.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Think that if you separated HOWK and Animal and pushed Animal,
I think that he would have done really well as
a singles wrestler, like an icy type guy.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
I mean he kind of had. He did when circumstances happened.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
N I didn't really watch during that timeframe, but I
just know, like, no, I'm just telling you I've seen.
I think that Animal could have done really well. Not
that they didn't do great together, but Animal could have
done really well on his own. He had a great presence.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I discreaming they were they were to get they were
magic together. I can't see them being singles because it's
they're They're that perennial tag team.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I don't think they hated each other at the end
of the day.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
They didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
They did not hate each other.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
He may he may have hated some of the actions
that caused the team to have attached bentle think because
he talks gushingly.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
When we met him about his run.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
I would say, the Rockers, Marty Jivenni, would you push Marty.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Never Marty tried to dive through the window.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I mean, technically they did split up and sewn Michaels
did go so and had a great career. Marty tried
and didn't probably work the same. It's the wrestling for
a while, it just wasn't the the same. So he
kind of did get his chance. Because you got to remember,
there's quite a few tag teams that this did happen to.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
It is kind of tough at times because a lot
of them do that.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
I know, Okay, let me.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
If you say the Hardys they both did have single
run you know what I mean, The Dudley Boys, they
had their single runs.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
You split everyone up eotentially, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
So it gets kind of tough at times.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
I think the Brisker Brothers would have been good at
the single run, both.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Of them, besides Mark kind of Jay was three time
ring them on her two time ring them on her
World champ like, so that's tough too.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
The Rock and Roll Express, like I mean, back in
the day when they were at their peak, maybe one
of the I think seeing like Ricky Morton as a.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Single run, yeah he could.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I think he kind of had that you know charisma
and boy, you know, flamboyance and kind of theris.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Like I said, the chrisma and the big hair and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, it's hard because I feel like they always try
to identify the tag team, like who's the struggling and
they always end up pushing one. Like I think the
reason why UCM was because they pushed it because he
did have more of the ring presence. He had more
that you know, Hawk was more of them gonna I'm
gonna hurt you, I'm gonna do what I can knock
you down, and animals, more psychology. So I think that's
(44:40):
why it makes sense. And I'm not I wasn't dismissing
that at all. It's just hard because when someone's a
perennial tag team, it's hard to see them. So that's
why that's a hard question too, because when they're a
perennial tag team, it's like, well, they've had forever. But
then you go back, like Jeff was saying, yeah, you
go back through WF You're like, nope, they had to run.
I was thinking, like Acolytes, nope, freukratch, I had to run.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
How about how about Yeah, I mean you could do
let's okay, I'll use top flight and I'll says Mark,
I was just gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Left out.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I love you, Darius, you.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Just makes magic.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
So I'm trying to think of some people like that,
because you can't really say Frankie Kazarian and Christopher Daniels
because they've both done their singles thing.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
You know, it's just yes, Montees would be a modern
example of a team that. But I feel like they've
been teasing that break up for I don't know hard
because sometimes some people are they're more magic attack team
because sometimes they're having that second person to help me,
the bird in their ear of like, hey, let's do
this now. Sometimes I think that's why some people work
as a tag team versus the singles is they can
(45:49):
bounce off each other better versus ticking out the fly.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
All right, I'm gonna be controversial. We're gonna spill the
tea for Drew nor and what or talent could have done?
Could a e W.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Have Yes, I have a lot of these.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Honestly, Ego Ethan Page did nothing in a e W.
They could have sent him to w W.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
Sooner seem.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
Like he didn't do ship.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I'm sorry he did, but not worth it.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
No, he was not worth it.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
In the end because he did bring eyes to the
product and help because of the name value and everything.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
I get it, but yeah, it kind of was a
little bit more of a detriment.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I think, Miro. I mean, I think I don't know
Mark Henry.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Paid more than the catchphrase Big Show to say. I mean,
now he's on Ring of Honor as a gentleman from
Big Show. What has he been doing for I know
he's been here, but like, okay, so I say, Dan Housen,
he prints money on the indies. He's one of the
biggest straws. He comes into a w then he disappears.
(47:08):
So I'm not saying these are because I don't like
the wrestlers. I just think the system of aw doesn't
fit Dan Housen, Parker Boudreaux, that that weird must leave,
and then that slim Jay, the one from Albus most
wanted those Oh my.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
God, Yeah, that poor kids.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
I'll be looking since I said top to page Man's aunt.
She had one match, they signed her and she never wrestled.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You're going to spill the tea on.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
I just know, I know, take some of yours already, Mercedes.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I did say that one.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I'm surprised that Emily didn't say pak. To be honest
with you, I.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Mean, is a given everybody knows.
Speaker 7 (47:58):
I can't stand that stupid, That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yes, he was definitely we could have done without, but
he did a lot in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I think getting getting him out of wrestling, getting him
out of retirement into wrestling, bringing him in, getting the
eyes on the product. I think it was fine. I
think at the end of the day, he wanted it
to be like w B. He wanted to run the
way he wanted to run it. He didn't like the
way it was running. He wrestling's full of personalities, egos,
et cetera. I think because of all the drama the
(48:28):
following out, I think it maybe it would never would
have fit in, but I think unfortunately he had to go.
I think it's a stop in his career.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
But what about Cody.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Honestly, I think Cody was right because without Cody, I
don't I don't really think. I don't really think there
would have been a I think he was kind of
like that last like like he was that last nail
to help kind of prop up the side of AW I.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Don't think we would have gotten Dustin if we didn't.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Have Yeah, I don't think we'd have had that double
nothing moment. I don't think we would have had Dustin
as a trainer. I don't think we'd had Cody really,
but I don't think we would have had Cody understand
the social media integration. I think he help bring social
media integration and better.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
I just thought of somebody sunny Kiss.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
I wish she'd still be well, I wish they or
she would have been around. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
I like that, and she'll be on the cruise, so
I'm excited to see her again.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Yes, yes, agreed.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well let's leave on a late note. A right, last question,
no time limit, fantasy book and.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
All in match, fancy book and all in match.
Speaker 7 (49:41):
So two people I want to see fighting a.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Storyline?
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Either, No, it could be anybody you want.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
I'd like Secret Baker and CEO go at it.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
You're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
That well, but yeah, that would be the top one.
Speaker 7 (50:05):
I'd like to see the two Rhodes brothers go at
it too again. Yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
See that again, honestly, like I could see that a
million times.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
Yeap, So go ahead, so go ahead. Who you got me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (50:29):
Or Emily?
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Either one go first up?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Because I ricochet ospray get them back. I want it
to be big, big stage.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
That's somebody who forgot to say about coming aw from
WW right there, ricochect.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I just think it's a matter of time for him.
Maybe he didn't needed some time off. Samantha posted some
risky pictures. I think she's trying to Mandy Rose herself risque.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
I don't think she's.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Trying to get herself fired just because just because her man,
just because her man's a free agent isn't me.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
She has to quare a job correct.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Come together right now?
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Oh yep.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
For females, I would love Mariah and Jamie to have
a match together.
Speaker 7 (51:23):
I think that would be.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Really cool at all in in their home country.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
About like Chris versus Hater.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I'd like to see that one everybody.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
I think nostalgia. I'd like to see the Bucks versus
Edge and Christian essentially, I'd like to see it healthy
because I think that would be fun to see kind
of like the past, you know what I mean, like
everything collide. I would I think too serious. Booking Osprey
probably like an Osprey FedEx, like Osprey Phoenix together, give.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Kill Switch, turn ye all in I would love Can
I just fantasy book that in itself comes back?
Speaker 6 (52:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:09):
But how about this, I would just we have the
very first ever lightweight Battle Royal where it's just every
everyone who does like Commander, all the looys, and then
just in they can establish it. I don't care the
whole too many ties. They can make a whole like
lucid or title, make a louchi or tail that they
travel around with, have it defended in CML, have it
(52:31):
defended everywhere, make it like a light heavyweight international, or
make the international title that title.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
We can come back tom cruiser weight even because I
mean the old old standard a cruiser weight was what
two twenty and below or whatever. Yeah, I mean that
standard can be achieved by a lot of different people,
which means that belt can be taken anywhere, and which
I mean I would.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
See like a Dante Martin bill to go in there
with like a gravity like you wouldn't see one on one.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Mustafa Ali is now a free agent, he is.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
I would definitely enjoy seeing staff a.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah, I'd definitely like to see a fantasy booking match
with the outrunners versus like FTR or somebody.
Speaker 9 (53:12):
That their styles well because they can work together, but
they would bring and they would bring in a ton
of you know, the comedic and selling part where FDR.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
You know, they do at times get.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
They're so serious and you know, go at it all
the time, but every once in a while they do kind
of get a little bit more light, you know. So
I think it'd be cool to see them in a
match like the Outrunners or somebody who are more of
a comedic but can.
Speaker 5 (53:35):
Work with somebody that's known for being real serious. You know.
I think that who they.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Who, they should do selfishly have one of the cruise.
But I don't think the guns will come back on
the cruise. I think they're over. If the guns come
back on the cruise, bring that Runners back. Let's have
the guns versus the Outrunners. I think the guns are
as the Outrunners would be such a fun, entertaining match
of over selling nonsense.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yes, yeah, maybe not like fully televised because.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
It's because it's a house show. Yeah, it's like a
house show.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Or even a Ring of Honor even I would that
would be awesome, just something like that to see and
then of course you know I want to see, uh.
Speaker 7 (54:11):
What about and.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Well AJ is not there, so you can't really fantasy book.
I mean, if we're doing that, then I want to
see like AJ will or something then or something like
that or AJ Swerve.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
I don't know. I want to see Aj with somebody
like that.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
I would to see Aga rum and rings.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
Then we're fantasy booking like real where we can just
you know, do whatever. That's different. Yes, I know, I
see you down here. I got friends circling me.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
All. That was definitely some turmoil and some fun. So
thank you to Jeff and Rachel for joining us for
topic turmoil and unless do you have anything else to
say before you sign off?
Speaker 2 (54:58):
M good.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
That's right bearing through my raspy voice, the tech issues
and all the other fun joys of summer. So hope
everyone enjoyed the topic turmoil and got a little bit
of information from it, and until next time, always keep
the Hey everyone. As your producer and co host Mango here,
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