June 4, 2025 • 56 mins
Natty hosts a thrilling episode featuring eerie encounters with UFOs and aliens, including a strange sighting in Australia and a recent Michigan incident. Guest Gemma from the podcast 'I Think My Fridge is Haunted' joins to discuss creepy occurrences, dark history, and paranormal phenomena. The duo dives into shocking stories of cattle mutilations and mysterious craft, analyzing possible explanations and sharing personal experiences with the supernatural
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hope see soon. Since I mentioned the kids. It was
going nuts. Hi guys, No, you're absolutely right when you
mentioned the kids that lit up.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This will be behind the scenes from my Patreon. Man,
I think it's going bananas.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What does that say?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Visit? Yes, you're visiting Hi's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That is really it goes yeah, because it is a visit,
he goes. Yeah, they are on one.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Welcome back everyone, we have yet another brand new guest.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm super pumped.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And let me tell you, if you guys are not
subscribing to the Patreon feed and watching this video, do
it because her makeup is banging right now and.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Her hair is just nice, curly like cute stuff. We
face timed at the Crackadel on my time here in
Australia this morning, and I did not put my camera
on because I looked like a bridge troll horse hockey. Anyway,
she looks marvelous.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And just a disclaimer for everybody out there, I am
already on my third glass of wine, two shots of vodka,
and over there we're time traveling. Okay, So when you're
listening to me, you're on a Thursday night. When you
listen to her, you're on a Friday morning. So this
is like a weird twilight Zone and I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
On my second coffee of the morning, so she's had
two coffees.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I've got a lot of wine and vodka. So well,
this goes because I'm gonna be the one reading we
should flip it one day.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We'll flip it one day. We definitely should do like backwards.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I did put another cat sensor down here by Parapuppy,
who's going batshit crazy right now. Spirits love this thing
and I handmake him. He's leaning back like he's taking
a nap. That's awesome, but I handmake him.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
All of them.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And I tell people all the time that he gets
a lot of activity and things like him and they're like, oh,
this thing has ever since I mentioned my kids being here,
this thing is going bananas.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's gift for that person that has everything.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
This is Miss Jemma from Oh my Goodness, I think
my fridge is haunted.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I know. We call ourselves a very creepy podcast for
very creepy people. And thank you so much for having
me on. We're in this sort of group of podcasters.
I'm acquainted, but we've never officially really met before. But
did you I've actually I've.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Wow, Sorry, that happens occasionally.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I heard a whisper, did you Yes? Maybe that's why
my ear was weird. That's re wired. I'm reporting it
as well. I'm gonna go back. Where can they find you? Okay?
You can find us on YouTube. You can also find
us on Spotify, and you can find us on Apple Podcasts,
Current pod beIN like all the places. Just look up.
(03:56):
I think my fridge is haunted. I've been covering the
mushroom trot in Australia at the moment. In Victoria, the
state where I live, there's a big trial happening at
the moment, a legal trial. It's a triple murder case,
and it's this lady. She had this Sunday lunch at
her house back in July of twenty twenty three, and
she invited her estranged husband's parents and his aunt and uncle,
(04:22):
and three of them died from poisoning and basically in
the lunch was death cat mushrooms. So that triple murder
trial is happening at the moment. So I'm doing a
weekly wrap up of the triple murder, the mushroom case.
It's basically it's just called the mushroom case or the mushroom.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sounds like it should be way more nefarious than it is.
So this thing goes podcast. Yes, we're recording the podcast.
I told you they love podcast type and it wants
my hands. That's why my hands over here, which is
they're about warm.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So if you come over to my fridges, I think
my fridge is haunted. At the moment, it's basically all
mushroom case. But when we get back to our normal seasons,
what we love more than anything is dark history. We
are upset with dark history, Salem, witch trials, bubonic plague.
With this season, we've got a few ship related ones
(05:18):
like plague ships we've got and also volcanoes that have
erupted in history, where yeah, we just we love dark history.
So there's it's that very traditional radio station set up
where there's all glass windows and you can see into
the studios and you can see people like presenting and stuff.
The studio one, Studio two, and I'm in the podcast room.
(05:41):
Someone was recording late one night because sometimes like people
will literally come in like at stupid hours to record
pre record their shows. And someone was in Studio two,
and we just like when we walk in to go
to our rooms, we just wave, hey, you going, And
someone waved at someone going into Studio one. And then
(06:05):
later when he finished his show, he went to just
pop his head in and just go, hey, I'm off. Now,
No one was there, No one. Oh I do that
all the time. I'm like hi, and Studio one is
at the end of the whole, Like you cannot leave
without going past studio tape. Oh that is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I'm at a funeral home, so I get i'll
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, well that must be interesting. This is off.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nexus newsfeed titled retired government trapper reflects on cattle mutilation phenomenon.
All right, let me see if there's anything. Sometimes it
gives me dates and time, but I don't see that anyway. Well,
not excuse me, needed that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
A retired government worker who's then he can leave. Let's shit,
I should not say that. Last time I said that
all my power shut off.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We don't want that right now. We need the power.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He can go as long as he's the power alone,
all right. So, a retired government worker who spent decades
fighting animal depredation who in the Rocky Mountains recently reflected
on a phenomenon that puzzled him throughout his career cattle
mutilations for a saggering forty two years. Mike Hogan was
reportedly a hunter and trapper for the US Department of
(07:26):
Agricultural agricul Oh my God, Agriculture Wildlife Services in Montana
and Nevada.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Throughout his story says, catch and release problem, that kind
of thing. The trapper is a catch and release situation,
like coyotes.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, like if they have an animal that gets out
that doesn't need to be there, Like you call and
you're like, oh, there's this big there's a big snake,
skate of boys, there's an alligator in my pool.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Exactly exactly. It's hunter and trapper, which I just I
don't know, I don't know, I get the Jews.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Throughout his story career, he kept a journal where and
he detailed some of his more unusual and exciting stories
for the time of taking down various creatures such as bears,
coyotes that have preyed on the ranchers cattle. So he
goes in because something is eating or something is attacking
his their cattle or whatever. So he goes in to
remove them so that they stop destroying cattle. Exactly, and
(08:37):
following his retirement, Hogan turned those recollections into recently released
book called Between Predator and Prey forty two years a
Government Hunter.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Included among the reconciliations featured in the memoir is.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
A chapter that the retired trapper was initially, oh my gosh, reticent.
What range just lost it on that word anyway?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
To include?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Has it centered around his encounters with cattle mutilation cases,
explaining that ranchers in search of loss compensation often called
to him to examine downed animals to determine what the
cause of the incident was.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Who are you gonna call ghostbusters ranch trapa because that's
it's like it cleans ajuster, but for animals and aliens. Yeah.
But it does say that he conceded.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That these particular moments left him scratching his head, and
it says, quote all I could ever say was that
I didn't know what had caused them. The seasoned investigator
also recounted, quote, but they oh, but that they definitely
weren't the work of predators or colts end quote.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But it's damn Robertson brothers, oh getting up his stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I just think it's funny. That he made sure to
put out there. It wasn't a predator and it wasn't
a cult.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's the Satan. It's the Satanic panic, isn't it. It's
people are still obsessed with people who were black needing
to apparently cut cow's eyes out for satan. It makes
no sense, but they're still obsessed with that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Try being a person that has premonitions. It's what you want. Okay,
so what they want, maybe it's them that's given them
to me. But mine is it's only certain people, and
it's only certain times. I have no control over it.
So it's not every baby that I know, it's just
certain ones.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah. I have, on two occasions seen on two elderly people.
This is a bit of a random one. I've seen
ectoplasm come out of their hands and a couple of
weeks later they had passed away.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, that's not cool, but it's really cool. So did that, Yes,
it did. I have an old lady that hangs out here,
and she's not a fan.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They probably see it as like consulting with the devil.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, which is ironic because she's the one telling me.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, she's probably like one of those like really old
like very Catholic, or maybe she's a Puritan.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
She's not that old. She's old in a sense of
fairly modern. I would say she was elderly in probably
judging by what the mental she had a heart attack.
Apparently heart attack was what I just got.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Thank you. Her name is Gertrude.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't know how to search to the record, so
I please, Yes, I'm sorry, but she likes to tell
me to keep it down. I'm too loud, or I'm vulgar,
or yes, she very much so, is very religious. I
think she's elderly. Probably, I want to say the fifty sixties. Okay,
is the vibe I get from her. But yeah, she's
(12:07):
a little on her high horse most of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know. But anyway, back to cat mulations. Tell
me more about the cat mutilations.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
At a recent book launch event in Montana, Hogan further
expanded on the peculiar phenomenon. He explained, quote just couldn't explain.
That was the really useless quote.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But okay.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
He indicated, around thirty years ago, every summer he saw
curious clusters of around ten to twelve mystifying mutilations before
the activity would suddenly stop.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And then yeah, it's Montana, Nevada. Close places are notorious.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, oh notorious. Yeah, it does surprise me and all
that these are there, and quote, it's just a pretty
strange deal, he mused, noting that the incidents occurred unlocked property,
with no sign of human activity left behind after the
strange slayings. Additionally, echoing insights from independent researchers who have
(13:10):
studied the phenomenon, he observed that the unfortunate animals were
cut with surgical precision, and that scavengers had screwed their remains,
spread them, scattered them though something cut them surgically, and
then animals ate them. Which that's what animals do, right,
You find a carcass, you eat it because free lunch exactly.
(13:34):
But that's the end of this one. This one's a
little shorty, but I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Are we thinking aliens, bigfoot, most men based of bray Road?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm thinking probably if it's surgical precision with no human
aspect and no predator being.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Because even if.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was, say, I don't know why Windo goes popping
into my head, but whind to go, thank you. Then
you can leave if you want to leave my lights on,
and if it was something like that, it would have
still looked like a predator. But he's saying surgical precision.
There's no footprints, there's no anything broken, the gates are
still locked, nobody broke in.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm thinking they're probably going to an alien exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It doesn't go into a lot of details other than
cut with surgical precision and just mutilation. So I'm like,
are they disemboweled? Are they chopped in?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Quartered? What? See? This is the thing. I think what
he's trying to tell you is you have to buy
the book to get more details.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
You know, it's that tracks, but that's the first one
I have. Oh man, my jaws like killing me, don't
you we make dirty jokes on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
For it, no, no bars whatever, Yeah, thank you. I
can tell you it's not from that unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just out of tennis. Yeah, all right, now you can open.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The first link. Ah, it's a little awesome drawing right
out of the gate. You got an awesome drawing losses time.
Oh and I would like to point out that I
have not moved, nothing has changed in this room, and
that K two meter is silent now, so something was hardcore.
It doesn't feel like there's as much going on over
there either. Bar Ye, we're on SAT shaped UFO which computer.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, we're heavy issues on the computer.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
There you go. So this one is it is bright? Sorry,
I'll turn it down. Sorry my phone's really bright.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Cash what I was trying to turn down? Thank you?
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So sas I know you're touching me, can we not?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Saucer shaped UFO with glowing orange dome on thin black
bass queens Flynn, Oh my gosh, this is perfect.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Australia, January tenth, nineteen seventy nine O'Brien's Creek near Mount Surprise.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well that's a good name at one twenty a m. Yeah, Surprise.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'll give you a mountain surprise. Okay, awesome, you rock
all right? So then it says during the early part
of January, oh my god, I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can't, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So I'm talking about being mounted in surprised. And this
guy's name is mister d.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
When a paranormal pervy, Paul, when you're native, you must
love that it's bright? Leave them witch Yep, there's Gertrude. Hi.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Gertrude, She calls me a witch, the one that I
have that's an old I think it's a generational demon
that just hangs with me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, you know what, Actually we don't actually consider that
to be a it's all we like you, thank you.
I like you too, to be a what we don't
consider a witch to be an insult.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Joshua, Hi, Joshua, move over, Joshua move over? Which we
like you I'm aware or no? I said we like you?
I said, oh, I like you too, and it goes
I'm aware, and he goes, I understand, Joshua, move over.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
During the early part of what you know what freaks
me out about this sight team, he had been asleep
in his caravan.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Read this yet, by the way, so I have no
idea you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
The Do you want to go ahead?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You read I'll get to that when I get to
the van. We'll stop, all right. During the early part
of January, mister D Royal Navy was camped in the
Toepax Field, approximately twenty six miles away from Ount Surprise.
The sighting occurred on one of the few nights it
didn't rain in the area. Mister D had been asleep
(18:06):
in his caravan under an open window. Oh, never, very
hard cham Oh, it hadn't rained. He's in a van.
The vans have windows. The windows probably probably rolled down.
After waking up and sitting Wait, after waking and sitting
up in his bed, mister D saw a small light
(18:27):
approaching outside from the Georgetown direction.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, yet I'm looking this up on a map. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So at first he gets strewed this as some tourists
in the area, but then realize he was completely cut
off by floods. Wait, it didn't rain in the area.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, So just for clarification, I've just looked less up.
This is actually in font North Queensland. It's a very tropical,
it's a very it's a rainforest area, so it's not
australia Jay dry area. It's actually it's a it's probably
very humid where he is.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's definitely not down Under.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Actually, it's funny you say that it's down under the
I think if you want to visit Australia, go to
find North Queensland. It is so beautiful, it is so Australian.
It's just so wonderful up there, and I highly recommend
anyone that's coming to Australia forget Sydney, forget Melbourne. Yes,
we have coffee. It's wonderful. Whatever I'm We we have
(19:27):
great show shows that you can see. You can see
a musical and everything. But if you want to see
beautiful Australia, go to far North Queensland. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
He's up there. He's in a place where rain. But
this says there's a few nights that it did not rain.
Hit the window open.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What I don't get. It's January, so it's rainy season. Yeah,
well it's rained, like it's like crazy hot, crazy not
to rain up there at that time, the opposite of here,
where it's snowy and cold. Yeah, oh you will need
to get up there literally day and night.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
A have another drink.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Whoo.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But that's what gets me because I'm thinking it instead
it was revolting. Okay, So we did not like that joke.
He was asleep in his caravan.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Is a caravan different from you guys, because to me,
it's a it's a jeep caravan.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's a fucking van. Wait does it say jeebe? No?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Here, I sold cars for a while and we had
a cheap camera.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Like you have, like an av but it's one that's
like detached and you tow it behind your truck. Thank you.
We call that a camper, a campa.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yes, okay, okay, So I was like, how do you
sit up in bed if he's in a van? Okay,
never mind, it's because it's a camper, okay, all right?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In seventy nine. It's probably really little. It's probably it's
not what we have now by these luxury a surprise. Yeah,
it's probably literally just like a bed and like a
little table in some room to put like a kettle
on or something like that. It's there's probably not a
lot to it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
My eye just got really blurt. I can't see it
out of one of my eyes. Hold on, okay, I
guess I'm just gonna read this one eyed.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Cool. Do you want me to go Do you want
me to go ahead and read it? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We'll skip over the picture and just go a little
bit to like maybe get my eye back, just.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So that the people listening can get an idea of
this picture. The picture is very simple. It's basically a line,
a horizontal line with half semicircle on top of it.
That's all. It is so orange when mister D saw
(21:58):
a small light approaching outside, and he thought they were tourists,
but then he realized that there had been floods and
that he was basically stranded where he was, and I
guess he's probably one of those people that they go
out bush and they'll live there for a couple of
weeks or a few weeks or whatever, and they're totally fine.
So he lit a cigarette and decided to go outside
(22:21):
because he wanted to know what this light was. And
then stepping outside, he walked around his jeep where he
quote almost had a heart attack. About three hundred feet
altitude and three hundred to four hundred yards distance was
a huge, round, yellow orange light. Mister D said he
stood watching this object for a considerable time, in which
(22:45):
he smoked several cigarettes. So he's getting a show. That's something, now,
this is interesting. He noted that no sound or beans
of light emanated from it, so it's hovering of its
own volition. It's obviously not got a motor anything like that.
And at Howard's Stationary during the entire sighting, mister D's
(23:09):
three dogs just lay nearby, wide awake, without moving, which
is odd because you would think they'd be going crazy,
and he thought that was strange because they were always
at his heels. At one point, mister D thought of
using his gun, but decided that could prove a mistakes
(23:30):
back in the day, see something weird? Should What do
you mean back in the day, we do that? It's
the newest.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Here?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Are you first? And asked questions later?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh really, yeah, you know you don't get a chance
to fuck around before you find out.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We don't have a lot of guns here since the nineties,
so he said. The object finally began moving and assumed
a quote saucer shape with a glowing orange dome on
a thin black base. Sounds like like a burger.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It looks like the top half of a burger, yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Or a fried egg. It's like you're looking at a yeah,
a sunny side up or whatever. And that's why it's orange.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
This is all makes sense. It moved backly the.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Northwest, disappearing besides behind some heels, so it's floated off
behind the hills. Mister D suggested the reason the object
approached may have been because he had a what's called
a hurricane lamp burning outside his van, so it was
the only light in a really fart.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, people, people don't live out there, so it's the
hurricane lamp.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know, so I'm gonna presume that it's like
a lamp. It's probably a lamp that you can use
to do because up there that's hurricane country, so you
can probably use it in a time of It looks
like it's a kerosene lamp. Okay, So it's like something
that you can use without electricity. Probably. I would presume
(25:18):
you get the.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Wick, well, you have the kerosene at the bottom, and
you pull the wick down and then you soak it
in the wick, and then you roll the wick out
and you light the top of it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Can we're talking about Australia, and you.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Get at the top and you can make it lighter,
dimmer or brighter dimmer, depending on where you roll it
up and down. But it's really good to use. We
use this here.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Got here, She teld me to be quiet, I have
a recreation one that runs off batteries. I'd have a
buch of schandles okay. He stated that it might have
been the only light for about one hundred square miles,
and he estimated the size of the Friday Egg Ufo
(26:07):
was moon size to approximately a twenty cent piece at
arms length, So twenty cent. God, I don't know what
size your coins are over there? What's your biggest coin?
Half dollar or you mean a quarter? Maybe a quarters
like this? Yes, so that's like our twenty cent pace
because quarters a twenty five so it's like that arms lane.
(26:34):
Ours are twenty five ers, Dick, So he actually saw
this sighting. This sighting actually lasted an hour and a quarter.
It's a pretty sizable event. That's an interesting one. I like,
I've never heard that story. That is so what I
(26:58):
think is crazy. Oh my god, I literally just got
my baby. Do you need it? I think Pervy Paul's back.
That's paranormal Purvy pool right there.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
But what I thought was crazy was I do have
a thing. It says hovering, and you got the weird
it looks like a circus around circle. What if that
was just because it was turned sideways and that glowing
dome was face Yes, it is round, thank you, And
it's like the glowy part was facing towards them. Because
if it's nighttime and there's no lights, like the black
ring would just essentially disappear.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It must have turned at some point for him, maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oliko, where did when it turns over? Did it say
that it moved before it turned into the black at
the bottom of an orange at the top began moving
in and assumed a claus Or shape.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
If you look at his two illustrations, it's one of
it completely round.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh that's a little arrow, isn't it. I just want
to know when the transition was in the story, but
it does. It says that it moved and that's when
it looked like the sunnyside egg. So it might have
been flat with the dome part facing him, and then
when it flipped and it started to move, it turned
itself over, because that would make sense. If you're looking
at a black gag at my ring light right now,
(28:12):
and if it's like if you're looking at it from
this way, you wouldn't see the black ring. You would
just see the orange circle and when it moves then
you would see it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So that makes sense. That makes sense to makeuper perspective
of it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, with it being so long, did they he probably
didn't have cameras in recorders or anything like that in
the seventies.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's just so interesting. I think this is a guy
with he's an ex Royal Navy person, ex Navy. He
just wants to go out bush, not talk to anyone.
He's probably just got his dogs and a cup of tea. Yes,
and he's gonna and he's probably gonna want to hunt
some wild ball and cook there on his little story
(28:57):
and he's happy. I would be, but exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, like you said, he's ex military, And so for me,
I hold a lot of credit there for ex military
because a lot of times they've been out in these places. Okay,
that is not cool. I got she will touch you,
and then it felt like there's like something back here.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But I'm not touching you. But I feel like they don't.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Know it did disguise as thank you, please continue it.
He did disguise his name. But most of the time
they are a little more hesitant I feel to come
out because of that stigma that's attached to it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
So when I see a military.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Get a like a witness that's coming forward, I feel
like there is a little bit more gusto to their story.
No offense on all you people out there that aren't,
but it's just to me because like I said, we're
getting he knows the footage. He knows how far he is.
Those are all things that if you throw out in
the middle of the woods, I'd be like, shit, I
don't know, it's about that far.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't know, like it could be.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm like, yeah, it's totally ten feet. It's really like
one hundred yards. I'm like, you know, like I have
no idea. But the fact that he could do that
distancing and the timing and knowing how far what is
and using the twenty cent piece as.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
A marker, that to me adds a lot to it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, personally, But what I just think it was interesting
also was is he doesn't mention yes, we're recording. It
doesn't mention anything in the dome. It just has the
dome and usually here's something inside.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't think it was close enough for him to
be able to visualize if it was like a driver
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So that's true. But if it is that far away,
that's a pretty good distance. If it's like a quarter
and the quarters the size of the moon, you gotta
be hot step away from that sucker, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So up in Queensland there is another phenomena that's known
up there called the men Lights. I know about these right,
it's that's it's the same state. It's probably a good, say,
ten hour drive west to where those are, but it
is still what's a ten hour drive to a UFO? Nothing?
(31:27):
Yeah is there? Yeah? That when you sent me that
article and it was like all lights in the sky
up in Queensland, That's what I thought about. And I'm
pretty sure the Minon lights were viewed in the eighties nineties,
so I feel like I put them around that. Yeah,
(31:49):
so what do you think the others are?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
This is something other than a UFO? What else could
possibly you're familiar with the area at least?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Is there anything out.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
There that could potentially be mistaken as a floating orange ball?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
No, I an't there, not in the wilderness. I don't
think we even have. What are those little bugs that glow?
Lightning bugs? It's five lines, like I've seen fivelines, but
not in Australia.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
They're not they're not also not orange, they're yellow. The
ones I saw are I've seen ones in Europe and
they're like very neon. Yeah, they're really I used to
squish them on the sidewalk to watch their butts glow
when you squashed them.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, that's horrible. I had nothing to do. Was in
a small town. It always makes me think that, oh,
it looks like tiny people in the grass are like
chicking their phones, you know what.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That makes sense, and that almost makes me feel bad
about squashing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Them all, almost the humanity.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Eh, it's fine, there's plenty of them out there. I'm
sure it's that everybody thinks of us when we die, right,
plenny of about there, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Did we go on to the next one? Yeah, because
thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
A question on this one, because I don't remember it
didn't say how this thing was moving, right.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's erratic or yeah, that's like flat.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
It feels like an airplane or something. I just try
to look at all different things that we can come
up with here.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, he said that it was hovering, and then it
went okay, it wouldn't hover if it's an airplane. No,
all right, and that it made no sound. And so
I think it's just that really classic flying saucer, that
classic flung saucer. It's hovering and it went out into
the distance, whereas a lot of times, like you'll say,
(33:53):
oh it went crazy and it was like flips and
toils and things, and then it went off like real fun.
Not with this one. Maybe it was like just conducting recon.
Maybe it was picking up with them cows. Yeah it's possible. Yeah,
(34:15):
it's like we just pick something up.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But yeah, I just figure i'd ask that because I,
like I said, I try to cope with everything, even
if I poke hooles, even if I don't believe at
all what my theory is. I want to at least
throw it out there because I know there's somebody out
there being like, you don't mention that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, show yop, do what I want. Okay, So the
next one, I see you that link as well.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, because it's got a really creepy picture on it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's got a really creepy picture, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So it says massive UFO sightings and tall gray humanoid
reported in We're just gonna say Michigan because they are
annoy in Hell.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I'm gonna say that Otonagan Country County, Otonagan. See it.
I would have said it on a Nogan Michigan. It's
in Michigan. It's in Michigan, y'all. It is uncertain. They
don't even know, so it.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's the I yeah, hold on, where's is this really one.
This is a whole giant quote.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So I got my neighbor, her children and grandchildren to
witness the UFOs with me. One of the kids reported
seeing a tall, light, gray human like creature creep with
a large funny shaped head go running very fast across
the lot behind my home. As I received Yeah, I
received the following account. And this is all one big
(35:39):
gat quote. And I would like to point out this
literally happened on my birthday last year, so that's funny.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, it just happened six seven months ago. Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And I would like to put out that I randomly
scrolled like I doom scrolled and randomly.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Selected three stories.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
One was kind of utilation, one was in the country
you're in, and the second was on my birthday. But
the third was on my birthday. So what are the
odds that happens?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
So it says I lived in Whatever County, Michigan. On
September twenty sixth last year, something happened that I couldn't believe.
I was in my home around nine to nine thirty
PM and I heard a car running, so I went
out to look. I found two cars pulled over on
the side of the road with a third one pulling
over two. But I couldn't see what they were looking
(36:32):
at until I looked up.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
So ye, multiple people are saying these Yes. I love that.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I love that there's one person saying they saw it.
I don't know if the other people acknowledged it yet,
because we've had that. I've heard accounts where there's three
people but only one season, so it says there's ay
And this is all caps, massive amount of UFOs flying
all above the field behind my home. They were all
caps again, not planes. I grabbed my video camera and
(37:02):
started filming. What there's no film attached to this anyway,
So I started filming.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
When's the film?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, bitches. There was no sound except for crickets. And
I even captured a large triangle that hovered and another
UFO landed on it and then took off.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
See that's classic UFIR sliding, isn't it. Yeah. I don't know.
I've ever heard of anything landing on something else.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So he's catching a triangle on film and the UFO
is it's almost like it's refueling. See the triangle it
lands and then it takes off.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
It's like it's a mother ship or.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh my friend would kill me if he knew that
I was stuck on this like a battleship or or
the air Force parks their planes lands.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
O go parks their planes land. He's gonna over, here's
this where? Yes, aircraft? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So they go and they can refuel and everybody hangs
out on the boat and then they take off. So
maybe it's like an astra Vergin Virgin version of that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Paul must be here reminds me of a case from
the seventies. It was a guy by the name his
surname was Lovelace, and the book was called Encounter at
Devil's Den and it was down in tech I want
to say, Missouri or Texas or somewhere around there, and
(38:26):
I think it was Missouri actually, and he went on
a camping trip with a friend and they were military actually,
and they saw this giant craft. It was like a
city in the sky and that had like smaller craft
inside as well.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think I know what you're talking about. Sorry, if
I'm staring off, I'm visualizing.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Sometimes they stayed into the greater business because I'm thinking
it's great.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It was really strange.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Okay, Yeah, I'm neverly gonna have to cover that one. Yeah, leading,
thank you, yes, save me that one. He then says,
there were so many of them, I could not film
them all. They were coming from all directions, but they
usually come from the field, which sorry that that didn't
seem like it was right. They were coming from all directions,
but they usually think it should have came from the
(39:13):
field anyway, which is due west behind my home. I
got some shots with two or three in the same shot.
Planes cannot get that close to each other without crashing.
While all this was going on, the satellite on my
TV kept being interrupted and had to be reset.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Oh I hate when that happens.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Also, the battery to my video camera, which is an
eight hour battery, had about a quarter of the charge.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Left and then suddenly died.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
So if it's eight hours, hal star, so he only
he should have had two hours, and he's just now
filming this and it dies.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I've had that happen to me.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I went in and charged it some but when I
went out to film some more, it suddenly went dead again.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's weird. For no reason. The footage was not in
the memory. That's why we don't have it exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
The next night, I went out to check again, and
there was activity that night as well the twenty seventh,
just not as much. I got my neighbor, her children
and grandchildren to witness the UFO with me. One of
the kids reported seeing a tall, light gray, human like
creature with large, funny shaped head go running very fast
across the lot.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Behind my home. I'm just okay, may you see the
movie signs? Yeah? Yeah, I love it. I love that movie. Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
The one really creepy scene in that movie is where
like the aliens in my alley and it like turns yeah,
and it like just turns as it's like walking and really.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah. It's just like there's one that's they go for
the worldwide.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
So it's all this stuff that's all these films from
different places and the ones like an alley way and
it like there's something and it walks and it looks
at the camera and that'll be and I am picturing
yes really fast.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Like really yeah, really creepy. And so that was just
it's just really weird. It says I did not see
I did not see this, so I cannot say whether
it was real or not. Oh that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
We'll get back to that and I'm little, and I'm
a little inclined to believe that. Because my neighbor and
I both have had someone or something outside of our
homes the last few nights.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We were unable to catch whoever it was. That's also interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I think this place really needs to be investigated. The
field behind my home is never worked by farmers, never
mowed by anyone, yet the grass and weeds never seem
to grow, and when looked at from above, like on
Google Earth, it looks like there's possibly some sinkholes. And
I know some artesian art is that right art? Yeah,
(41:50):
well artisan wells, artesian or whatever. My whole village is
above hundreds of oh Jesus, these wells, and maybe that's
why they are here. I hope you have a chance
to read this because it was amazing. Sincerely, MH. So
that is the encounter that he's having, and.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
M H. If it's where an artesian well is, it's
a well that brings grand water to the surface without pumping.
I warned you you okay, Yeah, I'm good. I just
it just died. Yeah, oh there we are, Okay, sorry
(42:31):
for the delay. I told you they killed the internet.
That was weird.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I got Artesian wells are wells that get water because
they don't pump.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
And that's about all I get.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
All right, I got pressure and then you froze with
a super kissy face in the word pressure.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's cute. I'm not gonna lie. So maybe they're attracted
to these bodies of water that come up through the earth.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
That doesn't require any action to get right, or what
if it is whatever, if that's that area is set
up to allow for that many wells to function that way,
there might be something else going on underneath, like a
magnetic field. Yeah, that's affecting the pressure in that area.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
And I and maybe they use it like like stone
hinge or lay lines too, as like a base. Yeah,
or what if it's like a a rendezvous point, yes exactly. Yeah,
so like not necessarily a more permanent.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Solution, but just say, we're all going to meet here.
What they just had an extraterrestrial conference. We're all meeting
over here to the wells. Be there at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's krychella for aliens. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
My thing with the being is they said the kids
saw it, and that's the grandson. Now I don't know
how old because it doesn't say how old the grandson is.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, because they f he's three or four. He'd be like,
I saw a big thing run across the field and
did you mind? Exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
But at the same time, I'm like, and Michigan's up
there by the Great Lakes. So there's a lot of
crafts that people are reporting that are subaquatic. Really oh yeah, yeah,
so maybe not so much in the Michigan, but like
out like in the ocean, and stuff like those tic
(44:41):
TACs or whatever that were coming out of the ocean.
And there's all kinds of people reporting this shit that's
going in and out of the ocean. Which things that
fly should not be able to go under and over
and under or whatever or come out of the water
and take off into the sky. But I feel like
we've been seeing a lot or here a lot about
these ones. That's why everybody has all this hype on
(45:03):
the underwater base. There's underwater bases and huh human or
alien alien? Wow, I didn't think that's Elon.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
He's been having a few problems with these new little
inventions and stuff like that. Yeah, to go above and
blow the water exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Pick one, Pick one, just pick one. But you feel
like there's just a lot in the Great Lakes. I
feel like there's a lot of just lore and everything
in general with There's all kinds of stuff that comes
out of that area, and I think there's something to it,
whether it be creatures that are up there or the
ocean or the lakes. I don't know how deep they are.
I've been on a part of one of them, and
(45:46):
that's it. And it went on for like ever, like
you couldn't even see. So I'm like, it very well
could have. It could be a base in and out
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It could be anything in there. I've heard about those
great legs. They're massive. It's almost like an ocean in exactly.
And what gets me about this too is that there
were so many. Now granted he said they were like
flying all over, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I just I struggle with the validity of this one.
There's not as much description. It's we saw a shit
ton of lights. They were going everywhere. This kid, who
maybe three years old, maybe thirty years old, we don't know,
saw all this thing run across the yard really fast,
(46:39):
so he didn't even get a good look at it
because it was going really fast. So Yeah, everything's just
very vague. And I was like, oh, it's got a
quarter of the battery left. If your indicator light doesn't
show you because usually cameras, like recording cameras have block
(47:00):
it doesn't Usually a recorder does not have your percentage amount,
only your like cell phone would. On those ones, you
have three little blocks, so it's like you have full battery,
and then you have the third takeaway one and you
take away the next. So it could have been virtually
almost dead. Anyway, he got ten minutes of filming in
and the battery didn't. Now maybe he just didn't have
(47:21):
a memory card in and he thought he did, or
and he didn't want to look like an idiot, so
he just said, oh I didn't save it.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
He just throws one in real fast. They could be that, yes,
I would be here. There must have been other weaknesses.
If there were that many lights in the sky like
Upot from his name, I would be interested to know
if anyone else nice.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Witness Michigan UFO September twenty six, twenty twenty oh, not
twenty fourteen. So this one is at ten am September
twenty seventh and September twenty six mystical awakening. This just
(48:11):
says Michigan UFO contact. Oh this is a it's an event,
there's tickets.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Maybe it's just a hops and hot spot.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Oh wait a minute, Okay, let's also think about this.
If all this hype is getting made up for an event.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Oh yep, it's a marketing plant. Either either marketing plant.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Or I wanted to see if it would tell me
when this actual article came out. The article did not
come out until May eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Now it
does say the Paulding lights phenomenon also occurs in the
same county in Michigan. And the guy who wrote this
(49:07):
is Launch Strickler. He's a fourteen researcher also with their
book ads the bottom of the screen, so he was
on fanos and monsters and he's the one that reported it.
Usually he's pretty legitimate. I feel in his reporting. I
wish that there would be more. But again, this came
(49:29):
out in May eighteen. The event happened the same day.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
That this happened.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
What if it's just a bunch of people with freaking
drones because they're trying to see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
You know what I mean? Unless long Strickler heard this
story act that event, went back to his hotel room
and wrote it up.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
I I just know that most of the time he's
pretty accurate, like he really does his research.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
When I saw that he wrote that.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
I was all about kaibashing this until I saw that
he wrote it, and then I was like, yeah, I
feel like a lot of times he does do a
pretty good job with his research.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Now, but then again, if he's only given what he's given,
you can't squeeze blood from a turnip.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And this picture, I have no idea where the picture
came from. Is that photo of the it's just just
a creepypasta, just atcha. I don't think that's actually connected
with this and it is your classic is like, but
this is really tall? Yeah, that's the bit. That picture
(50:47):
is almost like the legend of the Raich that.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
This event that was UFO based. Then I'm gonna tell
you something right now, all right, It didn't say how
tall is Again, this kid could be three years old
and tall is six foot.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Everybody's tall.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
For me, everybody's still tall. Because I just stopped at eleven.
But I went to cryptocon and I also went to
the Atomic City paranormal Symposium fun.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh it was a blast. But at both events there
were people.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
In full get up, full alien suits, like they looked legit. Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
They were awesome people too.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
They'd like talk and stuff you can't hardly understand, and
though because they were in the mask. But okay, go
on my social media because two of them took one
of my crocheted aliens and held it up and they
were like saying, oh, it's my baby, because I told
them I kidnap other kids. So what I'm saying is
if somebody was dressed up in a in an outfit
like that, I could totally see that if only the
(51:50):
kids saw it. Yeah, I can see that being a thing.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Person. We've got a cotton dry and so who that is?
It's a strayka. I don't know if you have streakers
in America, have a big spotting event and someone runs
naked people's the field that it's a great Australian tradition.
I feel like if there was streaking, and we do
(52:16):
have streaking.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
By the way, do you have skinny dipping? Yes, okay,
if you have streaking, you got skinny dipping, all right,
I think. But if he was shrinking there would have
probably more than likely there would have been a group
of frat boys behind him laughing so loud that they
could have heard.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
So I feel like they because they also had a
weird head. He said, I had a weird shaped head,
a very big weird shaped head. So it doesn't say
how weird is it? Hammerhead?
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Is it gray? Alien? Yeah? What is it? Also head?
We don't know, right, So I would love for this
to be a real thing.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
But all the lights, but like you said, especially if
there was an event the same day, one million percent,
if this was real, there would have been more.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
If they were there for a UFO conference.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
And there were that many lights, there would have been
a bazillion reports, a metrics shit ton of reports.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, yes, say it's.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Cool, all like, get we'll wrap this up so you
can get back to doing what you're doing, because you're
just starting your day.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
I'm ending my day.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
I'm gonna take this makeup off. I already have no
pants because we've pot with no pants here on the show.
So are you just killing out for the night new
I'm literally just in my friends Jersey. Oh yeah, yeah, Hey,
I was always told there's for a man, there's nothing
(53:50):
sexier than watching your woman wear your shirt. No, really,
that's what I've always been told, so I put it
on instead of picture in it. But again, Jimma, I
feel like I say your name wrong every time I
say it.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
It's so weird. Emma, have you watched Sons of Nichy
now the Raindi His mom's name is Jemma.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Oh, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I don't really.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
I've been watching the last four seasons of U Yasha,
so I've.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Been on anime kick. I'm just basically a kid at heart.
It's okay, but.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Definitely thank you for coming on again, everybody. I think
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hope see soon. Since I mentioned the kids. It was
going nuts. Hi guys, No, you're absolutely right when you
mentioned the kids that lit up.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This will be behind the scenes from my Patreon. Man,
I think it's going bananas.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What does that say?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Visit? Yes, you're visiting Hi's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That is really it goes yeah, because it is a visit,
he goes. Yeah, they are on one.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Welcome back everyone, we have yet another brand new guest.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm super pumped.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And let me tell you, if you guys are not
subscribing to the Patreon feed and watching this video, do
it because her makeup is banging right now and.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Her hair is just nice, curly like cute stuff. We
face timed at the Crackadel on my time here in
Australia this morning, and I did not put my camera
on because I looked like a bridge troll horse hockey. Anyway,
she looks marvelous.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And just a disclaimer for everybody out there, I am
already on my third glass of wine, two shots of vodka,
and over there we're time traveling. Okay, So when you're
listening to me, you're on a Thursday night. When you
listen to her, you're on a Friday morning. So this
is like a weird twilight Zone and I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
On my second coffee of the morning, so she's had
two coffees.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I've got a lot of wine and vodka. So well,
this goes because I'm gonna be the one reading we
should flip it one day.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We'll flip it one day. We definitely should do like backwards.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I did put another cat sensor down here by Parapuppy,
who's going batshit crazy right now. Spirits love this thing
and I handmake him. He's leaning back like he's taking
a nap. That's awesome, but I handmake him.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
All of them.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
And I tell people all the time that he gets
a lot of activity and things like him and they're like, oh,
this thing has ever since I mentioned my kids being here,
this thing is going bananas.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's gift for that person that has everything.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
This is Miss Jemma from Oh my Goodness, I think
my fridge is haunted.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I know. We call ourselves a very creepy podcast for
very creepy people. And thank you so much for having
me on. We're in this sort of group of podcasters.
I'm acquainted, but we've never officially really met before. But
did you I've actually I've.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Wow, Sorry, that happens occasionally.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I heard a whisper, did you Yes? Maybe that's why
my ear was weird. That's re wired. I'm reporting it
as well. I'm gonna go back. Where can they find you? Okay?
You can find us on YouTube. You can also find
us on Spotify, and you can find us on Apple Podcasts,
Current pod beIN like all the places. Just look up.
(03:56):
I think my fridge is haunted. I've been covering the
mushroom trot in Australia at the moment. In Victoria, the
state where I live, there's a big trial happening at
the moment, a legal trial. It's a triple murder case,
and it's this lady. She had this Sunday lunch at
her house back in July of twenty twenty three, and
she invited her estranged husband's parents and his aunt and uncle,
(04:22):
and three of them died from poisoning and basically in
the lunch was death cat mushrooms. So that triple murder
trial is happening at the moment. So I'm doing a
weekly wrap up of the triple murder, the mushroom case.
It's basically it's just called the mushroom case or the mushroom.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sounds like it should be way more nefarious than it is.
So this thing goes podcast. Yes, we're recording the podcast.
I told you they love podcast type and it wants
my hands. That's why my hands over here, which is
they're about warm.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So if you come over to my fridges, I think
my fridge is haunted. At the moment, it's basically all
mushroom case. But when we get back to our normal seasons,
what we love more than anything is dark history. We
are upset with dark history, Salem, witch trials, bubonic plague.
With this season, we've got a few ship related ones
(05:18):
like plague ships we've got and also volcanoes that have
erupted in history, where yeah, we just we love dark history.
So there's it's that very traditional radio station set up
where there's all glass windows and you can see into
the studios and you can see people like presenting and stuff.
The studio one, Studio two, and I'm in the podcast room.
(05:41):
Someone was recording late one night because sometimes like people
will literally come in like at stupid hours to record
pre record their shows. And someone was in Studio two,
and we just like when we walk in to go
to our rooms, we just wave, hey, you going, And
someone waved at someone going into Studio one. And then
(06:05):
later when he finished his show, he went to just
pop his head in and just go, hey, I'm off. Now,
No one was there, No one. Oh I do that
all the time. I'm like hi, and Studio one is
at the end of the whole, Like you cannot leave
without going past studio tape. Oh that is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I'm at a funeral home, so I get i'll
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, well that must be interesting. This is off.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nexus newsfeed titled retired government trapper reflects on cattle mutilation phenomenon.
All right, let me see if there's anything. Sometimes it
gives me dates and time, but I don't see that anyway. Well,
not excuse me, needed that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
A retired government worker who's then he can leave. Let's shit,
I should not say that. Last time I said that
all my power shut off.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We don't want that right now. We need the power.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He can go as long as he's the power alone,
all right. So, a retired government worker who spent decades
fighting animal depredation who in the Rocky Mountains recently reflected
on a phenomenon that puzzled him throughout his career cattle
mutilations for a saggering forty two years. Mike Hogan was
reportedly a hunter and trapper for the US Department of
(07:26):
Agricultural agricul Oh my God, Agriculture Wildlife Services in Montana
and Nevada.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Throughout his story says, catch and release problem, that kind
of thing. The trapper is a catch and release situation,
like coyotes.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, like if they have an animal that gets out
that doesn't need to be there, Like you call and
you're like, oh, there's this big there's a big snake,
skate of boys, there's an alligator in my pool.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Exactly exactly. It's hunter and trapper, which I just I
don't know, I don't know, I get the Jews.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Throughout his story career, he kept a journal where and
he detailed some of his more unusual and exciting stories
for the time of taking down various creatures such as bears,
coyotes that have preyed on the ranchers cattle. So he
goes in because something is eating or something is attacking
his their cattle or whatever. So he goes in to
remove them so that they stop destroying cattle. Exactly, and
(08:37):
following his retirement, Hogan turned those recollections into recently released
book called Between Predator and Prey forty two years a
Government Hunter.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Included among the reconciliations featured in the memoir is.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
A chapter that the retired trapper was initially, oh my gosh, reticent.
What range just lost it on that word anyway?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
To include?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Has it centered around his encounters with cattle mutilation cases,
explaining that ranchers in search of loss compensation often called
to him to examine downed animals to determine what the
cause of the incident was.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Who are you gonna call ghostbusters ranch trapa because that's
it's like it cleans ajuster, but for animals and aliens. Yeah.
But it does say that he conceded.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That these particular moments left him scratching his head, and
it says, quote all I could ever say was that
I didn't know what had caused them. The seasoned investigator
also recounted, quote, but they oh, but that they definitely
weren't the work of predators or colts end quote.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But it's damn Robertson brothers, oh getting up his stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I just think it's funny. That he made sure to
put out there. It wasn't a predator and it wasn't
a cult.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's the Satan. It's the Satanic panic, isn't it. It's
people are still obsessed with people who were black needing
to apparently cut cow's eyes out for satan. It makes
no sense, but they're still obsessed with that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Try being a person that has premonitions. It's what you want. Okay,
so what they want, maybe it's them that's given them
to me. But mine is it's only certain people, and
it's only certain times. I have no control over it.
So it's not every baby that I know, it's just
certain ones.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah. I have, on two occasions seen on two elderly people.
This is a bit of a random one. I've seen
ectoplasm come out of their hands and a couple of
weeks later they had passed away.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, that's not cool, but it's really cool. So did that, Yes,
it did. I have an old lady that hangs out here,
and she's not a fan.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They probably see it as like consulting with the devil.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, which is ironic because she's the one telling me.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, she's probably like one of those like really old
like very Catholic, or maybe she's a Puritan.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
She's not that old. She's old in a sense of
fairly modern. I would say she was elderly in probably
judging by what the mental she had a heart attack.
Apparently heart attack was what I just got.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Thank you. Her name is Gertrude.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't know how to search to the record, so
I please, Yes, I'm sorry, but she likes to tell
me to keep it down. I'm too loud, or I'm vulgar,
or yes, she very much so, is very religious. I
think she's elderly. Probably, I want to say the fifty sixties. Okay,
is the vibe I get from her. But yeah, she's
(12:07):
a little on her high horse most of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know. But anyway, back to cat mulations. Tell
me more about the cat mutilations.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
At a recent book launch event in Montana, Hogan further
expanded on the peculiar phenomenon. He explained, quote just couldn't explain.
That was the really useless quote.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But okay.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
He indicated, around thirty years ago, every summer he saw
curious clusters of around ten to twelve mystifying mutilations before
the activity would suddenly stop.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And then yeah, it's Montana, Nevada. Close places are notorious.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, oh notorious. Yeah, it does surprise me and all
that these are there, and quote, it's just a pretty
strange deal, he mused, noting that the incidents occurred unlocked property,
with no sign of human activity left behind after the
strange slayings. Additionally, echoing insights from independent researchers who have
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studied the phenomenon, he observed that the unfortunate animals were
cut with surgical precision, and that scavengers had screwed their remains,
spread them, scattered them though something cut them surgically, and
then animals ate them. Which that's what animals do, right,
You find a carcass, you eat it because free lunch exactly.
(13:34):
But that's the end of this one. This one's a
little shorty, but I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Are we thinking aliens, bigfoot, most men based of bray Road?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm thinking probably if it's surgical precision with no human
aspect and no predator being.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Because even if.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It was, say, I don't know why Windo goes popping
into my head, but whind to go, thank you. Then
you can leave if you want to leave my lights on,
and if it was something like that, it would have
still looked like a predator. But he's saying surgical precision.
There's no footprints, there's no anything broken, the gates are
still locked, nobody broke in.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm thinking they're probably going to an alien exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It doesn't go into a lot of details other than
cut with surgical precision and just mutilation. So I'm like,
are they disemboweled? Are they chopped in?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Quartered? What? See? This is the thing. I think what
he's trying to tell you is you have to buy
the book to get more details.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
You know, it's that tracks, but that's the first one
I have. Oh man, my jaws like killing me, don't
you we make dirty jokes on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
For it, no, no bars whatever, Yeah, thank you. I
can tell you it's not from that unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just out of tennis. Yeah, all right, now you can open.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The first link. Ah, it's a little awesome drawing right
out of the gate. You got an awesome drawing losses time.
Oh and I would like to point out that I
have not moved, nothing has changed in this room, and
that K two meter is silent now, so something was hardcore.
It doesn't feel like there's as much going on over
there either. Bar Ye, we're on SAT shaped UFO which computer.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yes, we're heavy issues on the computer.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
There you go. So this one is it is bright? Sorry,
I'll turn it down. Sorry my phone's really bright.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Cash what I was trying to turn down? Thank you?
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So sas I know you're touching me, can we not?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
All right?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Saucer shaped UFO with glowing orange dome on thin black
bass queens Flynn, Oh my gosh, this is perfect.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Australia, January tenth, nineteen seventy nine O'Brien's Creek near Mount Surprise.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well that's a good name at one twenty a m. Yeah, Surprise.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'll give you a mountain surprise. Okay, awesome, you rock
all right? So then it says during the early part
of January, oh my god, I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can't, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So I'm talking about being mounted in surprised. And this
guy's name is mister d.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
When a paranormal pervy, Paul, when you're native, you must
love that it's bright? Leave them witch Yep, there's Gertrude. Hi.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Gertrude, She calls me a witch, the one that I
have that's an old I think it's a generational demon
that just hangs with me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, you know what, Actually we don't actually consider that
to be a it's all we like you, thank you.
I like you too, to be a what we don't
consider a witch to be an insult.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Joshua, Hi, Joshua, move over, Joshua move over? Which we
like you I'm aware or no? I said we like you?
I said, oh, I like you too, and it goes
I'm aware, and he goes, I understand, Joshua, move over.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
During the early part of what you know what freaks
me out about this sight team, he had been asleep
in his caravan.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Read this yet, by the way, so I have no
idea you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
The Do you want to go ahead?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You read I'll get to that when I get to
the van. We'll stop, all right. During the early part
of January, mister D Royal Navy was camped in the
Toepax Field, approximately twenty six miles away from Ount Surprise.
The sighting occurred on one of the few nights it
didn't rain in the area. Mister D had been asleep
(18:06):
in his caravan under an open window. Oh, never, very
hard cham Oh, it hadn't rained. He's in a van.
The vans have windows. The windows probably probably rolled down.
After waking up and sitting Wait, after waking and sitting
up in his bed, mister D saw a small light
(18:27):
approaching outside from the Georgetown direction.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, yet I'm looking this up on a map. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So at first he gets strewed this as some tourists
in the area, but then realize he was completely cut
off by floods. Wait, it didn't rain in the area.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, So just for clarification, I've just looked less up.
This is actually in font North Queensland. It's a very tropical,
it's a very it's a rainforest area, so it's not
australia Jay dry area. It's actually it's a it's probably
very humid where he is.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's definitely not down Under.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Actually, it's funny you say that it's down under the
I think if you want to visit Australia, go to
find North Queensland. It is so beautiful, it is so Australian.
It's just so wonderful up there, and I highly recommend
anyone that's coming to Australia forget Sydney, forget Melbourne. Yes,
we have coffee. It's wonderful. Whatever I'm We we have
(19:27):
great show shows that you can see. You can see
a musical and everything. But if you want to see
beautiful Australia, go to far North Queensland. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
He's up there. He's in a place where rain. But
this says there's a few nights that it did not rain.
Hit the window open.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
What I don't get. It's January, so it's rainy season. Yeah,
well it's rained, like it's like crazy hot, crazy not
to rain up there at that time, the opposite of here,
where it's snowy and cold. Yeah, oh you will need
to get up there literally day and night.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
A have another drink.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Whoo.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But that's what gets me because I'm thinking it instead
it was revolting. Okay, So we did not like that joke.
He was asleep in his caravan.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Is a caravan different from you guys, because to me,
it's a it's a jeep caravan.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's a fucking van. Wait does it say jeebe? No?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Here, I sold cars for a while and we had
a cheap camera.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Like you have, like an av but it's one that's
like detached and you tow it behind your truck. Thank you.
We call that a camper, a campa.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yes, okay, okay, So I was like, how do you
sit up in bed if he's in a van? Okay,
never mind, it's because it's a camper, okay, all right?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In seventy nine. It's probably really little. It's probably it's
not what we have now by these luxury a surprise. Yeah,
it's probably literally just like a bed and like a
little table in some room to put like a kettle
on or something like that. It's there's probably not a
lot to it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
My eye just got really blurt. I can't see it
out of one of my eyes. Hold on, okay, I
guess I'm just gonna read this one eyed.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Cool. Do you want me to go Do you want
me to go ahead and read it? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We'll skip over the picture and just go a little
bit to like maybe get my eye back, just.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So that the people listening can get an idea of
this picture. The picture is very simple. It's basically a line,
a horizontal line with half semicircle on top of it.
That's all. It is so orange when mister D saw
(21:58):
a small light approaching outside, and he thought they were tourists,
but then he realized that there had been floods and
that he was basically stranded where he was, and I
guess he's probably one of those people that they go
out bush and they'll live there for a couple of
weeks or a few weeks or whatever, and they're totally fine.
So he lit a cigarette and decided to go outside
(22:21):
because he wanted to know what this light was. And
then stepping outside, he walked around his jeep where he
quote almost had a heart attack. About three hundred feet
altitude and three hundred to four hundred yards distance was
a huge, round, yellow orange light. Mister D said he
stood watching this object for a considerable time, in which
(22:45):
he smoked several cigarettes. So he's getting a show. That's something, now,
this is interesting. He noted that no sound or beans
of light emanated from it, so it's hovering of its
own volition. It's obviously not got a motor anything like that.
And at Howard's Stationary during the entire sighting, mister D's
(23:09):
three dogs just lay nearby, wide awake, without moving, which
is odd because you would think they'd be going crazy,
and he thought that was strange because they were always
at his heels. At one point, mister D thought of
using his gun, but decided that could prove a mistakes
(23:30):
back in the day, see something weird? Should What do
you mean back in the day, we do that? It's
the newest.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Here?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Are you first? And asked questions later?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh really, yeah, you know you don't get a chance
to fuck around before you find out.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We don't have a lot of guns here since the nineties,
so he said. The object finally began moving and assumed
a quote saucer shape with a glowing orange dome on
a thin black base. Sounds like like a burger.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It looks like the top half of a burger, yeah, which.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Or a fried egg. It's like you're looking at a yeah,
a sunny side up or whatever. And that's why it's orange.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
This is all makes sense. It moved backly the.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Northwest, disappearing besides behind some heels, so it's floated off
behind the hills. Mister D suggested the reason the object
approached may have been because he had a what's called
a hurricane lamp burning outside his van, so it was
the only light in a really fart.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, people, people don't live out there, so it's the
hurricane lamp.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know, so I'm gonna presume that it's like
a lamp. It's probably a lamp that you can use
to do because up there that's hurricane country, so you
can probably use it in a time of It looks
like it's a kerosene lamp. Okay, So it's like something
that you can use without electricity. Probably. I would presume
(25:18):
you get the.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Wick, well, you have the kerosene at the bottom, and
you pull the wick down and then you soak it
in the wick, and then you roll the wick out
and you light the top of it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Can we're talking about Australia, and you.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Get at the top and you can make it lighter,
dimmer or brighter dimmer, depending on where you roll it
up and down. But it's really good to use. We
use this here.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Got here, She teld me to be quiet, I have
a recreation one that runs off batteries. I'd have a
buch of schandles okay. He stated that it might have
been the only light for about one hundred square miles,
and he estimated the size of the Friday Egg Ufo
(26:07):
was moon size to approximately a twenty cent piece at
arms length, So twenty cent. God, I don't know what
size your coins are over there? What's your biggest coin?
Half dollar or you mean a quarter? Maybe a quarters
like this? Yes, so that's like our twenty cent pace
because quarters a twenty five so it's like that arms lane.
(26:34):
Ours are twenty five ers, Dick, So he actually saw
this sighting. This sighting actually lasted an hour and a quarter.
It's a pretty sizable event. That's an interesting one. I like,
I've never heard that story. That is so what I
(26:58):
think is crazy. Oh my god, I literally just got
my baby. Do you need it? I think Pervy Paul's back.
That's paranormal Purvy pool right there.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
But what I thought was crazy was I do have
a thing. It says hovering, and you got the weird
it looks like a circus around circle. What if that
was just because it was turned sideways and that glowing
dome was face Yes, it is round, thank you, And
it's like the glowy part was facing towards them. Because
if it's nighttime and there's no lights, like the black
ring would just essentially disappear.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It must have turned at some point for him, maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oliko, where did when it turns over? Did it say
that it moved before it turned into the black at
the bottom of an orange at the top began moving
in and assumed a claus Or shape.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
If you look at his two illustrations, it's one of
it completely round.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh that's a little arrow, isn't it. I just want
to know when the transition was in the story, but
it does. It says that it moved and that's when
it looked like the sunnyside egg. So it might have
been flat with the dome part facing him, and then
when it flipped and it started to move, it turned
itself over, because that would make sense. If you're looking
at a black gag at my ring light right now,
(28:12):
and if it's like if you're looking at it from
this way, you wouldn't see the black ring. You would
just see the orange circle and when it moves then
you would see it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So that makes sense. That makes sense to makeuper perspective
of it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, with it being so long, did they he probably
didn't have cameras in recorders or anything like that in
the seventies.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's just so interesting. I think this is a guy
with he's an ex Royal Navy person, ex Navy. He
just wants to go out bush, not talk to anyone.
He's probably just got his dogs and a cup of tea. Yes,
and he's gonna and he's probably gonna want to hunt
some wild ball and cook there on his little story
(28:57):
and he's happy. I would be, but exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, like you said, he's ex military, And so for me,
I hold a lot of credit there for ex military
because a lot of times they've been out in these places. Okay,
that is not cool. I got she will touch you,
and then it felt like there's like something back here.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But I'm not touching you. But I feel like they don't.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Know it did disguise as thank you, please continue it.
He did disguise his name. But most of the time
they are a little more hesitant I feel to come
out because of that stigma that's attached to it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
So when I see a military.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Get a like a witness that's coming forward, I feel
like there is a little bit more gusto to their story.
No offense on all you people out there that aren't,
but it's just to me because like I said, we're
getting he knows the footage. He knows how far he is.
Those are all things that if you throw out in
the middle of the woods, I'd be like, shit, I
don't know, it's about that far.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't know, like it could be.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm like, yeah, it's totally ten feet. It's really like
one hundred yards. I'm like, you know, like I have
no idea. But the fact that he could do that
distancing and the timing and knowing how far what is
and using the twenty cent piece as.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
A marker, that to me adds a lot to it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, personally, But what I just think it was interesting
also was is he doesn't mention yes, we're recording. It
doesn't mention anything in the dome. It just has the
dome and usually here's something inside.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't think it was close enough for him to
be able to visualize if it was like a driver
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So that's true. But if it is that far away,
that's a pretty good distance. If it's like a quarter
and the quarters the size of the moon, you gotta
be hot step away from that sucker, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So up in Queensland there is another phenomena that's known
up there called the men Lights. I know about these right,
it's that's it's the same state. It's probably a good, say,
ten hour drive west to where those are, but it
is still what's a ten hour drive to a UFO? Nothing?
(31:27):
Yeah is there? Yeah? That when you sent me that
article and it was like all lights in the sky
up in Queensland, That's what I thought about. And I'm
pretty sure the Minon lights were viewed in the eighties nineties,
so I feel like I put them around that. Yeah,
(31:49):
so what do you think the others are?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
This is something other than a UFO? What else could
possibly you're familiar with the area at least?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Is there anything out.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
There that could potentially be mistaken as a floating orange ball?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
No, I an't there, not in the wilderness. I don't
think we even have. What are those little bugs that glow?
Lightning bugs? It's five lines, like I've seen fivelines, but
not in Australia.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
They're not they're not also not orange, they're yellow. The
ones I saw are I've seen ones in Europe and
they're like very neon. Yeah, they're really I used to
squish them on the sidewalk to watch their butts glow
when you squashed them.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, that's horrible. I had nothing to do. Was in
a small town. It always makes me think that, oh,
it looks like tiny people in the grass are like
chicking their phones, you know what.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That makes sense, and that almost makes me feel bad
about squashing.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Them all, almost the humanity.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Eh, it's fine, there's plenty of them out there. I'm
sure it's that everybody thinks of us when we die, right,
plenny of about there, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Did we go on to the next one? Yeah, because
thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
A question on this one, because I don't remember it
didn't say how this thing was moving, right.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's erratic or yeah, that's like flat.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
It feels like an airplane or something. I just try
to look at all different things that we can come
up with here.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, he said that it was hovering, and then it
went okay, it wouldn't hover if it's an airplane. No,
all right, and that it made no sound. And so
I think it's just that really classic flying saucer, that
classic flung saucer. It's hovering and it went out into
the distance, whereas a lot of times, like you'll say,
(33:53):
oh it went crazy and it was like flips and
toils and things, and then it went off like real fun.
Not with this one. Maybe it was like just conducting recon.
Maybe it was picking up with them cows. Yeah it's possible. Yeah,
(34:15):
it's like we just pick something up.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But yeah, I just figure i'd ask that because I,
like I said, I try to cope with everything, even
if I poke hooles, even if I don't believe at
all what my theory is. I want to at least
throw it out there because I know there's somebody out
there being like, you don't mention that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, show yop, do what I want. Okay, So the
next one, I see you that link as well.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, because it's got a really creepy picture on it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's got a really creepy picture, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So it says massive UFO sightings and tall gray humanoid
reported in We're just gonna say Michigan because they are
annoy in Hell.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I'm gonna say that Otonagan Country County, Otonagan. See it.
I would have said it on a Nogan Michigan. It's
in Michigan. It's in Michigan, y'all. It is uncertain. They
don't even know, so it.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's the I yeah, hold on, where's is this really one.
This is a whole giant quote.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So I got my neighbor, her children and grandchildren to
witness the UFOs with me. One of the kids reported
seeing a tall, light, gray human like creature creep with
a large funny shaped head go running very fast across
the lot behind my home. As I received Yeah, I
received the following account. And this is all one big
(35:39):
gat quote. And I would like to point out this
literally happened on my birthday last year, so that's funny.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, it just happened six seven months ago. Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And I would like to put out that I randomly
scrolled like I doom scrolled and randomly.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Selected three stories.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
One was kind of utilation, one was in the country
you're in, and the second was on my birthday. But
the third was on my birthday. So what are the
odds that happens?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
So it says I lived in Whatever County, Michigan. On
September twenty sixth last year, something happened that I couldn't believe.
I was in my home around nine to nine thirty
PM and I heard a car running, so I went
out to look. I found two cars pulled over on
the side of the road with a third one pulling
over two. But I couldn't see what they were looking
(36:32):
at until I looked up.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
So ye, multiple people are saying these Yes. I love that.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I love that there's one person saying they saw it.
I don't know if the other people acknowledged it yet,
because we've had that. I've heard accounts where there's three
people but only one season, so it says there's ay
And this is all caps, massive amount of UFOs flying
all above the field behind my home. They were all
caps again, not planes. I grabbed my video camera and
(37:02):
started filming. What there's no film attached to this anyway,
So I started filming.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
When's the film?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, bitches. There was no sound except for crickets. And
I even captured a large triangle that hovered and another
UFO landed on it and then took off.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
See that's classic UFIR sliding, isn't it. Yeah. I don't know.
I've ever heard of anything landing on something else.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So he's catching a triangle on film and the UFO
is it's almost like it's refueling. See the triangle it
lands and then it takes off.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
It's like it's a mother ship or.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh my friend would kill me if he knew that
I was stuck on this like a battleship or or
the air Force parks their planes lands.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
O go parks their planes land. He's gonna over, here's
this where? Yes, aircraft? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So they go and they can refuel and everybody hangs
out on the boat and then they take off. So
maybe it's like an astra Vergin Virgin version of that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Paul must be here reminds me of a case from
the seventies. It was a guy by the name his
surname was Lovelace, and the book was called Encounter at
Devil's Den and it was down in tech I want
to say, Missouri or Texas or somewhere around there, and
(38:26):
I think it was Missouri actually, and he went on
a camping trip with a friend and they were military actually,
and they saw this giant craft. It was like a
city in the sky and that had like smaller craft
inside as well.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think I know what you're talking about. Sorry, if
I'm staring off, I'm visualizing.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Sometimes they stayed into the greater business because I'm thinking
it's great.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It was really strange.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Okay, Yeah, I'm neverly gonna have to cover that one. Yeah, leading,
thank you, yes, save me that one. He then says,
there were so many of them, I could not film
them all. They were coming from all directions, but they
usually come from the field, which sorry that that didn't
seem like it was right. They were coming from all directions,
but they usually think it should have came from the
(39:13):
field anyway, which is due west behind my home. I
got some shots with two or three in the same shot.
Planes cannot get that close to each other without crashing.
While all this was going on, the satellite on my
TV kept being interrupted and had to be reset.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Oh I hate when that happens.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Also, the battery to my video camera, which is an
eight hour battery, had about a quarter of the charge.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Left and then suddenly died.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
So if it's eight hours, hal star, so he only
he should have had two hours, and he's just now
filming this and it dies.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I've had that happen to me.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I went in and charged it some but when I
went out to film some more, it suddenly went dead again.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's weird. For no reason. The footage was not in
the memory. That's why we don't have it exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
The next night, I went out to check again, and
there was activity that night as well the twenty seventh,
just not as much. I got my neighbor, her children
and grandchildren to witness the UFO with me. One of
the kids reported seeing a tall, light gray, human like
creature with large, funny shaped head go running very fast
across the lot.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Behind my home. I'm just okay, may you see the
movie signs? Yeah? Yeah, I love it. I love that movie. Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
The one really creepy scene in that movie is where
like the aliens in my alley and it like turns yeah,
and it like just turns as it's like walking and really.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah. It's just like there's one that's they go for
the worldwide.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
So it's all this stuff that's all these films from
different places and the ones like an alley way and
it like there's something and it walks and it looks
at the camera and that'll be and I am picturing
yes really fast.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Like really yeah, really creepy. And so that was just
it's just really weird. It says I did not see
I did not see this, so I cannot say whether
it was real or not. Oh that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
We'll get back to that and I'm little, and I'm
a little inclined to believe that. Because my neighbor and
I both have had someone or something outside of our
homes the last few nights.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We were unable to catch whoever it was. That's also interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I think this place really needs to be investigated. The
field behind my home is never worked by farmers, never
mowed by anyone, yet the grass and weeds never seem
to grow, and when looked at from above, like on
Google Earth, it looks like there's possibly some sinkholes. And
I know some artesian art is that right art? Yeah,
(41:50):
well artisan wells, artesian or whatever. My whole village is
above hundreds of oh Jesus, these wells, and maybe that's
why they are here. I hope you have a chance
to read this because it was amazing. Sincerely, MH. So
that is the encounter that he's having, and.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
M H. If it's where an artesian well is, it's
a well that brings grand water to the surface without pumping.
I warned you you okay, Yeah, I'm good. I just
it just died. Yeah, oh there we are, Okay, sorry
(42:31):
for the delay. I told you they killed the internet.
That was weird.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I got Artesian wells are wells that get water because
they don't pump.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
And that's about all I get.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
All right, I got pressure and then you froze with
a super kissy face in the word pressure.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's cute. I'm not gonna lie. So maybe they're attracted
to these bodies of water that come up through the earth.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
That doesn't require any action to get right, or what
if it is whatever, if that's that area is set
up to allow for that many wells to function that way,
there might be something else going on underneath, like a
magnetic field. Yeah, that's affecting the pressure in that area.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
And I and maybe they use it like like stone
hinge or lay lines too, as like a base. Yeah,
or what if it's like a a rendezvous point, yes exactly. Yeah,
so like not necessarily a more permanent.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Solution, but just say, we're all going to meet here.
What they just had an extraterrestrial conference. We're all meeting
over here to the wells. Be there at eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's krychella for aliens. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
My thing with the being is they said the kids
saw it, and that's the grandson. Now I don't know
how old because it doesn't say how old the grandson is.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, because they f he's three or four. He'd be like,
I saw a big thing run across the field and
did you mind? Exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
But at the same time, I'm like, and Michigan's up
there by the Great Lakes. So there's a lot of
crafts that people are reporting that are subaquatic. Really oh yeah, yeah,
so maybe not so much in the Michigan, but like
out like in the ocean, and stuff like those tic
(44:41):
TACs or whatever that were coming out of the ocean.
And there's all kinds of people reporting this shit that's
going in and out of the ocean. Which things that
fly should not be able to go under and over
and under or whatever or come out of the water
and take off into the sky. But I feel like
we've been seeing a lot or here a lot about
these ones. That's why everybody has all this hype on
(45:03):
the underwater base. There's underwater bases and huh human or
alien alien? Wow, I didn't think that's Elon.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
He's been having a few problems with these new little
inventions and stuff like that. Yeah, to go above and
blow the water exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Pick one, Pick one, just pick one. But you feel
like there's just a lot in the Great Lakes. I
feel like there's a lot of just lore and everything
in general with There's all kinds of stuff that comes
out of that area, and I think there's something to it,
whether it be creatures that are up there or the
ocean or the lakes. I don't know how deep they are.
I've been on a part of one of them, and
(45:46):
that's it. And it went on for like ever, like
you couldn't even see. So I'm like, it very well
could have. It could be a base in and out
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It could be anything in there. I've heard about those
great legs. They're massive. It's almost like an ocean in exactly.
And what gets me about this too is that there
were so many. Now granted he said they were like
flying all over, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I just I struggle with the validity of this one.
There's not as much description. It's we saw a shit
ton of lights. They were going everywhere. This kid, who
maybe three years old, maybe thirty years old, we don't know,
saw all this thing run across the yard really fast,
(46:39):
so he didn't even get a good look at it
because it was going really fast. So Yeah, everything's just
very vague. And I was like, oh, it's got a
quarter of the battery left. If your indicator light doesn't
show you because usually cameras, like recording cameras have block
(47:00):
it doesn't Usually a recorder does not have your percentage amount,
only your like cell phone would. On those ones, you
have three little blocks, so it's like you have full battery,
and then you have the third takeaway one and you
take away the next. So it could have been virtually
almost dead. Anyway, he got ten minutes of filming in
and the battery didn't. Now maybe he just didn't have
(47:21):
a memory card in and he thought he did, or
and he didn't want to look like an idiot, so
he just said, oh I didn't save it.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
He just throws one in real fast. They could be that, yes,
I would be here. There must have been other weaknesses.
If there were that many lights in the sky like
Upot from his name, I would be interested to know
if anyone else nice.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Witness Michigan UFO September twenty six, twenty twenty oh, not
twenty fourteen. So this one is at ten am September
twenty seventh and September twenty six mystical awakening. This just
(48:11):
says Michigan UFO contact. Oh this is a it's an event,
there's tickets.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Maybe it's just a hops and hot spot.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Oh wait a minute, Okay, let's also think about this.
If all this hype is getting made up for an event.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Oh yep, it's a marketing plant. Either either marketing plant.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Or I wanted to see if it would tell me
when this actual article came out. The article did not
come out until May eighteenth, twenty twenty five. Now it
does say the Paulding lights phenomenon also occurs in the
same county in Michigan. And the guy who wrote this
(49:07):
is Launch Strickler. He's a fourteen researcher also with their
book ads the bottom of the screen, so he was
on fanos and monsters and he's the one that reported it.
Usually he's pretty legitimate. I feel in his reporting. I
wish that there would be more. But again, this came
(49:29):
out in May eighteen. The event happened the same day.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
That this happened.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
What if it's just a bunch of people with freaking
drones because they're trying to see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
You know what I mean? Unless long Strickler heard this
story act that event, went back to his hotel room
and wrote it up.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
I I just know that most of the time he's
pretty accurate, like he really does his research.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
When I saw that he wrote that.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
I was all about kaibashing this until I saw that
he wrote it, and then I was like, yeah, I
feel like a lot of times he does do a
pretty good job with his research.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Now, but then again, if he's only given what he's given,
you can't squeeze blood from a turnip.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And this picture, I have no idea where the picture
came from. Is that photo of the it's just just
a creepypasta, just atcha. I don't think that's actually connected
with this and it is your classic is like, but
this is really tall? Yeah, that's the bit. That picture
(50:47):
is almost like the legend of the Raich that.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
This event that was UFO based. Then I'm gonna tell
you something right now, all right, It didn't say how
tall is Again, this kid could be three years old
and tall is six foot.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Everybody's tall.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
For me, everybody's still tall. Because I just stopped at eleven.
But I went to cryptocon and I also went to
the Atomic City paranormal Symposium fun.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh it was a blast. But at both events there
were people.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
In full get up, full alien suits, like they looked legit. Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
They were awesome people too.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
They'd like talk and stuff you can't hardly understand, and
though because they were in the mask. But okay, go
on my social media because two of them took one
of my crocheted aliens and held it up and they
were like saying, oh, it's my baby, because I told
them I kidnap other kids. So what I'm saying is
if somebody was dressed up in a in an outfit
like that, I could totally see that if only the
(51:50):
kids saw it. Yeah, I can see that being a thing.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Person. We've got a cotton dry and so who that is?
It's a strayka. I don't know if you have streakers
in America, have a big spotting event and someone runs
naked people's the field that it's a great Australian tradition.
I feel like if there was streaking, and we do
(52:16):
have streaking.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
By the way, do you have skinny dipping? Yes, okay,
if you have streaking, you got skinny dipping, all right,
I think. But if he was shrinking there would have
probably more than likely there would have been a group
of frat boys behind him laughing so loud that they
could have heard.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
So I feel like they because they also had a
weird head. He said, I had a weird shaped head,
a very big weird shaped head. So it doesn't say
how weird is it? Hammerhead?
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Is it gray? Alien? Yeah? What is it? Also head?
We don't know, right, So I would love for this
to be a real thing.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
But all the lights, but like you said, especially if
there was an event the same day, one million percent,
if this was real, there would have been more.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
If they were there for a UFO conference.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
And there were that many lights, there would have been
a bazillion reports, a metrics shit ton of reports.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, yes, say it's.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Cool, all like, get we'll wrap this up so you
can get back to doing what you're doing, because you're
just starting your day.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
I'm ending my day.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
I'm gonna take this makeup off. I already have no
pants because we've pot with no pants here on the show.
So are you just killing out for the night new
I'm literally just in my friends Jersey. Oh yeah, yeah, Hey,
I was always told there's for a man, there's nothing
(53:50):
sexier than watching your woman wear your shirt. No, really,
that's what I've always been told, so I put it
on instead of picture in it. But again, Jimma, I
feel like I say your name wrong every time I
say it.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
It's so weird. Emma, have you watched Sons of Nichy
now the Raindi His mom's name is Jemma.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Oh, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I don't really.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
I've been watching the last four seasons of U Yasha,
so I've.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Been on anime kick. I'm just basically a kid at heart.
It's okay, but.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
Definitely thank you for coming on again, everybody. I think
my fridge is haunted and she filled out the thing
because she kicks ass. So we're gonna have all the
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Speaker 2 (54:44):
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Speaker 2 (54:52):
Thank you shared do all of that. But until next time, everybody,
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