EP87 - Baba Yaga, Bigfoot, and The Bloody Leaf - Cryptids, Creeps, And Conspiracy Podcast

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(01:11):
today we have brand new guests. I can talk today.
We've got this. So I have Erica and Wyatt from
Tales Untold, which I typed in incorrectly three times when
I was looking for you guys to listen to your show,
I kept doing it backwards. It's like untold Tales, and
I'm like, no, Danny, that's not right. I always give
everybody a chance here at the beginning to just kind
of introduce yourselves. Tell it why you do what you do,
whatever you guys want, it's your little bit there to

(01:33):
use what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Take it away.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm Wyatt.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I've been on the podcast since it started. I'm one
of the co hosts, and I also do YouTube on
the side. I have a personal channel. I'm also an
indie film director, so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
He looks twelve guys. If you're not watching the video,
go subscribe to the Patreon feed. He literally got here
and I was like, wait, shit, am I allowed to
talk like this on here? Like we're gonna be trouble. Oh,
I'm Erica.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
This podcast was my idea. We dubbed it after the
book I wrote back in September. Yeah, yeah, September, which
is also called tales untold simply because they are tales
that that didn't really end soon.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
And that's prettymuch showing we talk about. So welcome here, guys,
everybody who's been listening. We got a kind of a
pattern here going. This week, we are covering yet another
wicked woman who wilted the whimsy of wandering children across Europe.
This once beautiful, bewitched soul was banished and cursed for
the rest of her eternal existence. Her appetite for primarily

(02:40):
children's tender human flesh cooked in skulls instead of pots,
unique method of transportation, and extraordinarily exotic home puts her
in a class all on her own in the history
of folklore. And he guesses yet, Baba Yaga, Yes had
a girl, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I always like what people guess it as soon as
you said.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Eat children, yep. Do you know who Bobby is? I
think you do.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Hell Boy, I have seen that's what they called John Wick,
like in the John Wick movies, they call him Yaga.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's funny that you just said that, because I literally
have with appearances and dungeons and dragons, Scooby Doo spirited away,
John Wick and hell Boy franchise.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It is.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Im.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I am obsessed with Scooby Doo, so I think I've
seen every single one. E. I like the old ones, yes,
those are my.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Favorite, not so much the new ones. But yeah, I
kind of killed it. I just I can't. I will
never beat Zombie Island. There's there's two of them. Ruined
it probably ruined it. You can't beat the o G
but Scooby Doo. Aside, I wanted to just kind of

(03:58):
start with some simple stats. We're gonna have a long
one here, because she's not just known as Baba Yaga.
She's got a long list of names. But in many
culture baba means grandmother or old woman, which I mean
way to be subtle, the old hag. There are origins
all the way. So there's South Slavic and I am

(04:20):
going to butcher all of these names. I am so
sorry everyone or anyone who's listening who's like this bitch,
it's horrible. But anyways, I think it's not very thank you.
Oh my gosh. Jazevo it's j e z iv o
and it means chilling or horrifying. There's Germanic, which is

(04:41):
I'm assuming it looks like Jaeger or Jeger. Yeah. The
Chan is usually why sound yeah as his huntsman, and
then Russian it's looks like yogat yogat yag at, which
is yo curse or rage. And then you have Croatia.
Serbia is jessu horror, chill and shudder, Polish as witch

(05:05):
says real original and check is female forest spirit. These
are not all just the words, it's just the meaning
of the word. There Bulgarian sickness and illness, Lithuanian to torture,
even the pro oh my gosh, proto Samuel, Oh my God,
help me out. Here s a m o y e ed.

(05:25):
Oh see, that's where I went.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
To simoid samoyed samoyed.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Maybe I don't know. Sorry guys. Anyways, that's goddess of death.
Either way, you can't pronounce it, but you're going down.
But there's the Anglo saxon, which is doubt, worry or pain.
Old Norse even has it as pain or worry, and
some people say that it means snakes or vipers, which
I'm not sure exactly how that would tie in evil.

(05:55):
This is okay, so apparently this is evil. All right?
Thank you for contributing to the podcast appreciate it, I'd say,
she is. Yeah, it definitely falls into that category. Now,
the first mention of her name was in Russian text
in seventeen fifty five, but a lot of people believe
that it was in like a oral tradition, oral folklore

(06:16):
well before that. It's just that's the first time they
found her written. So yeah, I think she's probably been
around a lot longer. I would say, yeah, probably authors
make mention of her through multiple texts. So there's that
oh my god, I cannot read or speak today. VA's
Melissa the Beautiful Sorry I probably pronounced that round too.

(06:39):
But there's the Frog Princess. And then this original title ready, ready,
Baba Yaga and the kind Hearted Girl. We're putting one
out here, I could freaking say. And one thing I
thought was kind of interesting. So we all know the
basic house structure, but it says that she hails from
the oh my god, underworld nav like anov in a

(07:02):
v and that's yeah, it's classified as the realm of
the dead in Slavic mythology, so I guess it's like
Haiti for most Yeah, I love how I don't pick
a normal religion to go off of I think Haiti

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Jesus never a dull moment, guys, I'm telling you, but
we'll just go with it now. Many believe this magical
and missy dimension is something that you can get lost
in very easily. So again, if you guys saw hell Boy,
that environment that she is sitting in is pretty gloomy, right,

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It just looks like a giant ball of miss with
some dead trees and yeah, in her house, which is
and he just kind of stumbles into it. Now, granted
he was summoned there, but you can see in that
atmosphere where if somebody was walking and accidentally stumbled. I
don't know whether it be thank you the grave they're
helping me out today, but a portal or something you

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can see where you all a sudden you're like, wait
a minute, what happened? What's going on? It gives me
very big wind to go vibes too, like you would
expect this wind to go to be crawling out from somewhere.
Either way. I think she had enlisted a the fay.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
It was uh what is that word? When they replaced
the child a changeling change links. Yes, yeah, she was
trying to change to be a human.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Ah, I did an episode on Change Links for sure. No,
I've covered it before. I don't know if it was
in the regular episode.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh no, did I not train going by?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Oh it's okay, it's very loud. The other day, I
was in a town like forty five minutes away from me,
and it's notorious for trains and you're always stuck. So
I was like, okay, well the thing the arm starts
coming down. I'm like, ah shit, I'm not gonna make it.
So I stop and I'm sitting there for a solid
minute or two and I'm looking both ways. There's no train,

(09:12):
the arms down, and then I'm like, oh wait, here
comes one. Wait it's just the engine car and it's
coming and it stops like full stop before the crossing,
and I'm like, what is happening? I would be the
person who get stuck into train tracks with no train

(09:32):
kills me. I don't know it passed. We're good, okay,
if I was okay, we're good. Sorry. Sometimes I seem frozen,
but I'm really not. I'm just buffering. But because of
this dimension that she's in, that's kind of misty. They
think that her origin became like started as Slavic pagan goddess,

(09:53):
which is of the underworld as well, so she didn't
wonder far from the underworld and essentially one everybody was
being indoctrinated against their will and the rise of the patriarchy.
They took her and put her into a fairy tale
esque role, so she went from being this goddess to

(10:14):
a mean old bat. I guess I would be hell.
Even if you're in the underworld, someone's got to have
the job, right. I mean, we all have the people
that clean out the shitters. Everybody's got a job, so
people will get wiatt. I'm like, dude, you look like
you're twelve. Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
He's also further back than I am because the spot
we have is not very big.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
He's got that babyface. You just are growing a beard.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Aside from her house, apparently she's got some stuff that
is magical, which makes sense if she's a witch. Yeah, yeah,
goddess yeah. And aside from the most commonly described old hag,
which type thing, she's also been identified as an ogre.
I love the word ogre because it looks like or agra.

(11:03):
I'm gonna start coining it that that's gonna be interesting.
But for those of you that aren't well versed in
the world of folklore, and ogre is essentially a legendary monster,
often depicted as a large, hideous human like being that
is known for eating humans, particularly children. I don't know
which came first, the chicken or the egg, but maybe

(11:26):
she was called an ogre because she ate children, or
maybe ogres.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, she was an ogre.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
So she ate children. I don't know, but it is
kind of interesting because you don't in folklore you hear
a lot about kids going missing it, which I guess
you do have it because you have a hands on
gretel they have. They're getting getting eaten essentially by a witch,
well baba yaga, ogres, so it's like they're not alone.

(11:55):
There's not a whole lot, I don't think. I think
they're all pretty much classified all under the same unbred ella.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
But there probably they were probably stories that really just
tried to keep children away from the woods, you know,
so they wouldn't get lost, so they wouldn't get eaten
by animals.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Windy Goes apparently, I've stuck on the Windo Goes, the
Windy Ghosts. They're on my brain right now, apparently. But
they do the same thing. If you think about these
places where these lore are coming up at are not
like vast plains of Montana. I don't even know what's
in Montana, like Icelander, grip, whatever, doesn't have trees. Okay, yeah,

(12:32):
the boss, Yeah, thank you, the desert. You know, it's
not these places. It's all the lore about things eating
you in the woods are all because there are literally
things that could eat you in the woods. So there
is very much that kind of depiction of don't go
out there, it's not safe. But this one, I feel

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like there's a little bit there. You you should sort
of be like, wait a minute, let's hold the phone.
Almost all depictions of the Disturbing Deity show her sporting
a light brown dress with an overlaying white apron. So
if you just see an old woman in a brown
dress with a white apron, you're probably not gonna feel

(13:13):
too threatened, are you. What about you cookie monster? You're
gonna take cookie from the witch? Very threatening, right, I mean,
just sounds like some old lady out doing her business.
And occasionally she'll be wearing a dark brown sash or
a headscarf, and or a headscarf again, doesn't sound too threatening.
Maybe it be out feels like a very general peasant

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old woman. Look that is we are on poite. You
are on it literally next line, very medieval peasant sounding.
For the most part. That's great. This is good. I
would like to point out I've I work on these
notes for probably two solid weeks and never spoke to
them about any of it. Okay, just to clarify, I

(13:59):
do that a lot with people. I guess on and
like they're saying something like I literally wrote that like
verbatim in here, So we're on POI. That means that
you were meant to do this episode with me. We're connected.
But other versions say that she sports some like ragged
dirty clothes, which hmmm. On one hand, you're like, man,

(14:21):
this girl needs a shower, or maybe she's like homeless
or But at the same time, think about it, young man,
if you were out and this little old woman that
looks kind of like dirty and her clothes are all
messed up, would you not think to help her?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I would help her, like get her food or water
or something.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
He would assist. He's a good young man, solid chivrous.
I like it. I had a feeling you were so
it's almost like she comes across regardless. So far, so far,
totally just benign. This is my favorite one. Occasionally she

(15:04):
said to rock a red hat and black corset placed
over a gray dress like this is actually quite alluring
in my opinion, I would rock the ship out. That
sounds like something somebody would wear nowadays.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
They'd have their hair like bright red.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yes, or I see that. Hold on, see if you can.
You can't really see it as much.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
It's red. It's red. I changed the lights so it
doesn't look as much like a tomato, and they get
mad at me when I turn the lights up, so
I gotta keep them down. This one's This one's fashionable.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
My favorite is her accessories. One set in particular says
that she is sporting a groovy pair of golden boots.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Groovy.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I just liked. I like the groovy. It doesn't say
what they look like, it just says they're golden boots.
I'm picturing more of like irate esque. Yeah, the fled
over on the top, Yeah, that's what I'm picturing, and
like just like a small like a small wedgie heel,
but not not too much, just enough.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Then you.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm picturing, but that I had
to make sure I put that in there, that she
is known to wear golden boots, because it will come
in later. All right, Now, the Wicked Witch isn't even
confined to a location, even if she's under house arrest.
Most of the time when you hear lore, it is
there's again Hansel and Gretel, there's a place in the forest.

(16:35):
Even when you go with what is the new movie Tangled,
essentially it's one location. All of these things are pretty stationary,
not with Bobba Yaga, which is where I just I
love this. This is fantastic. Her filthy flat sit atop

(16:56):
a rather feathery fowl foundation. Quite literally, he literally so
for those of you who don't know, they say her
home is mobilized by two large chicken legs, and not
the original herbs and spices kind we're talking feathered feet. Well,
the feet aren't feathered, but you know what I mean,
feathered legs.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
They got a little toughs at the top.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, But with me, it's how large is large Because again,
if you watched it on TV, even if you watch
it so in spirit it away, I don't remember the
house being on chicken legs, but she does. We'll get
it to it in a little bit. Why. She looks like,
if you have you seen Spirited Away? It's been a while.
I watched it in high school. Hey did you watch

(17:37):
spirit It Away? Okay? Okay, yeah, right, by the way,
I totally know Osmosis Jones and love Osmosis Jones. We'll
listen to their episode. Y'all will thank me later. I'm
looking at it and I'm like, you know this.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Was going literally just.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Watched it like a month ago. It was on Hulu
and I was like, yeah, there's a Saturday Morning cartoons. Actually,
I was like, yes, it's what's what they want. Okay,
so they want to watch the most of Jones.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
We're done.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
We could probably do that, guys. Some of them are
my kids, so they do like to watch cartoons. All right.
So we have chicken legs on the under the house,
but it's not always chicken legs. I've heard that some
of them are on rams horns or sitting on a spindle.
Do you know what a spindle is?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Okay, sleeping meetings? Is the.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Thread or yarn? Yeah, yeah, I know it. Yeah, I
know what that.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Is yeah, and sometimes do They sometimes call the what
you put the yarn on the spindle this old wooden
and they thread the yarn around it and then you
use it to sow.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah yeah, the reel thing.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah yeah, okay, anyway, so those those But speaking of houses,
although there's no mention of the size of her House
of Horrors I did see he referred to as a
hut in most scenarios, so I'm guessing it's not necessarily huge.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Well, I mean in Slavic times there they wouldn't have
a house, you know, with vinyl sighting or anything.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, that's true, unless she maybe like a size or
is it just what it's made of. I guess a
hut would.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Kind of refer to what it's made of, you know,
like your straw roof, kind of like a house in
a shed, yeah kind of Yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't be huge, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well the reason I brought up the size alone was
because they say that Bobby Yaga covers a considerable bit
of that capacity, like she big girl. Supposedly, if the
house is big, then she's a big girl. But not
only that, but so much so that her nose is
said to either stick out of or touch the roof,
which is why it's spirited away. But so I was

(19:50):
saying it, look because she has that really long nose.
I'm just trying to figure out how your nose is
so big that it touches the ceiling. If it's a
decent sized.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
House, it's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
She's magic.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
She doesn't have to abide by the laws of physics.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh yeah, I guess there is that here I am
trying to rationalize. Oh yeah, yeah, inside joke actually funny part.
We used to laugh because my mom always her pictures
of her boyfriends and her prom or you know, eighth
grade dance, and she always dated these dudes with these
like huge snazzes. My dad doesn't have a big nose,

(20:26):
neither is my stepdad, but these guys have like huge honkers.
And so that's our ongoing joke, is that my mom
likes dudes big noses. But anyway, maybe they're related to
Bobby Junga. Yeah right, if the house on hen haunches
and extra large schnabs was not weird enough, this worrisome
wretch doesn't even get around on our own two legs.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Aha.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
So well, not only that, but common legend describes her
obedient abode again as the gateway of the afterlife. So
on command, she can order the living quarters to turn
and face the door, either towards the living or towards
the dead. So if it's facing the living, someone can, oh,
look at this house, let me go investigate or stumble in,

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and she can on demand turn it. So then when
they walk out, they're screwed you. So kind of I guess,
like when I guess in hell, boy is the best
one I could come up with, where he comes in
and then the door closes, but it opens and he's
like somewhere else, like or something's happening. It's kind of
like that. So she could turn it on demand, supposedly,

(21:34):
But she does leave her house, and once she does,
it's said that she zips around by means of mortar
propelled by a pestel. Don't worry, I will go into
what they are, Okay, sounds kind of funny. It sounds
like she's going to bombit people or something. Now, if
you look at photos of her, it looks like she's
in a rather large bucket using a stick like an

(21:55):
or like a little paddle, is what it looks like.
So Essentially, the large bowl and a club like looking
tool is used for crushing, grinding, or mixing things, where
the bowl is the mortar and the pestle is the stick.
So if you see a lot of which craft esque
things and they're mixing and they have that weird ceramic

(22:16):
it looks like a rock or stone bowl and they
have this like the random stick and they're mashing stuff
in it, that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Yeah, sometimes it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Hard to picture. Yeah, oh wow, Okay, but you don't
know what Mosus Jones got it? Okay. I did see
a couple of places where mentioned that she could be
seen riding a horse or a bore, And I'm thinking,
if she's as big as a house almost that poor horse,
and how the hell is it on a bore?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, that's a big animal. I mean, maybe the animals
are in proportion. Maybe she can magic them to be
a good enough.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Side Me and my logic over here trying to rational
that's a big bore. You got there. And another fact
I found about Bobby Yaga that was rather interesting to
know was that she's said to be a little top heavy.
It goes early, Yeah, a little top heavy and her

(23:15):
tap toass hang over a rod, although I'm not sure
what the rod is attached to, but I understand hanging thing.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
Like just walks around with it under her arms, Like.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well, what if it's okay, hold on, let's see here.
What if, like I said, the bucket that you see
here in is less a mortar but more of like
a portable. Well, we have the the thing, Oh my god,
the stick at the top that the wraps around for
the bucket. When you get the well water at the botom,
you got a quick crankeett. Maybe she's just sitting on

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the edge and they're just got to hold them up somehow.
Truth man, hit, Oh boy, it's okay. We had a
discussion before we started, just to clarify here usals. They
do say, though, that she was not always an eternal

(24:10):
ugly hag. Supposedly, legends says that she had recommended the
less vels Veals V E. L e S, a prominent
god of livestock and Slavic paganism, and she recommended for
him to contain the heavenly cattle from the heaven. Prav

(24:31):
So navis is the underworld prov is heaven well essentially
hasgard whatever I love how none of my things have
a basic religion. So he did as she suggested. The
gods were caloric, and they cursed her. Yes, that means
pissed off. Sorry has just for anybody who's like, wait,
I probably need to change her word. When this happened,

(24:53):
one of those classy golden boots became a brutal, bony
leg and they banned her from her beauty. So they
turn her leg into bone and made her ugly as hell.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
So they had magic to make her magic.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
And then they don't like that she has magic. So
the problem was that she had convinced the god of
the livestock to withhold the cattle from the rest of
the gods, and they didn't like that. She talked him
into it. Probably, judging by the fact that she now
doesn't have beauty, was probably rather involved in that category

(25:31):
of persuasion. Yes, just the thought. Now, speaking of legs,
I believe she's this same with one leg in the
land and one leg in the realm of the underworld aha,
making her possibly one of the oldest accounts of living
dead girl.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
She a Sammie.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Disclaim her here is a bit gruesome and it involves
children to skip ahead. If you can't handle it, I
literally put insert long paws, which we just did. All right, Okay,
if you're back, we're talking about children and it gets
grew like brutal, so okay, I don't like this party there.

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One of the most infamous ideologies of Bobby Yaga is
her creepy cuisine. She is known for eating people, especially children,
so she eats both her first children. But there's actually
a reason for this concept coming into the life of
the lore surrounding her, and I couldn't find a way
to rewrite it and do it as much justice. So

(26:35):
there's a Linco's gonna be down here for my description,
and all my sources are gonna be there, and there's
a site article on medium dot com, and I'm just
gonna quote it. I'm probably gonna mispronounced shit, but I'm
gonna quote it the best I can, all right. So
it says the ritual of Oh my gosh, parah Pekani
or parah peck was done exclusively on a stove called petchka.

(27:05):
An infirm or sick child was washed with spring water,
wrapped in dough, and put into a warm, clean oven
which had previously been heated with herbs. The child was
baked aka reborn, so they would pass the quote unquote
sickness to the dough and become healthy. It was best

(27:26):
cure for illnesses in the northern climate. This right could
be done only by a knowledgeable woman, the priestess healer,
because only she knew the special dough recipe and could
perform the ritual. None of that says it was fake.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean, I'm kind of happy there's no fire involved,
but heated by herbs.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Was heated with herbs. They heat the thing up first,
like they're marinate in the oven. The innocent. Yes, they
were innocent, and they're free ticking them in the oven.
But what I thought that was holy shit. People put
their babies in ovens, wrapped in dope. They were making
like pizza rolls. Essentially.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, people did wild stuff trying to get what they
thought was curses.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm wondering if maybe it was the concept of sweating
it out. And when it says child, how big, I
mean you're still a child. I mean, in this day
and age, you got what six months before you're a
full fledged adult. But before that you'd have already been

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married with two kids or four or whatever. So I'm
guessing that I know he is sweet, it goes sweet.
I'm guessing that it's more maybe eight and under. I
feel like back then, I mean, because you were basically
getting married off if you were an adult by the
time you were eleven, So I would guess probably closer

(28:58):
to that. But still, can you imagine rap been a
toad one? How do you get to toddler to stay
wrapped in dull? Sinceable? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Exactly how they doing that? At least it's agreeing with
me and then to I mean, I guess if it's
really sick, it wouldn't fight you.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
We kind of talked about that a little bit in
our Superstitious episode, So not the one that had come
out this past Saturday, the one before that. Okay, where
the first like seven years of a child's life, especially
you know, back when Bobby Aga was probably yeah, super popular,
is you had a really high chance of that child
not surviving past their seventh birthday.

Speaker 10 (29:36):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
So that's kind of where we thought that the number
seven became like a lucky number because it.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Actually makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, once that child hits seven, you're like oh, we're
out of the woods, like he's gonna survive, Like there's
a good chance that that will make it.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I would have never put that together. I thought it
was some kind of religious thing because like he seven
days to create whatever. I thought it was a religion thing.
Not huh.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I like that. That's a good point because I was thinking.
I was under the impression that it wasn't necessarily that
the kids were dying. I mean, the kids were dying,
but it was more at birth situation. But I knew
that the lifespan of adults was substantially lower. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, even children, like it took a long time for
them to really, you know, gain that immunity to survive exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
And that's the thing too, is it. I really like that.
So I'm still saying that that is good. I'm gonna
have to remember that. Maybe that's right. I like that.
We're going with it.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's right, you'll like that. You'll like that episode?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Then, yes, well definitely, because like I said, I was
listening to last week's or this, when do you release Saturday? Okay,
so this, yeah, but let's still be last week. So
this week is at the end of the week. The
latest was the latest episode. But one thing I thought
was interesting was not all of the children were by

(31:00):
Bobby Yaga, Like that's not even it's not. Oh, every
kid's gonna go in there and get eaten. According to
some of the lore, visiting Bobby Yaga was symbolic of
an initiation into adulthood for many children. Oh my gosh,
look at that segue. Didn't mean that landed nicely and
I didn't mean to. So they would travel to Bobby
Yaga's hut and pass a test to officially complete the

(31:22):
right of passage. I don't know what the test was
for the children, but there's a test fire pop quiz. Yeah,
how do you play with fire? Or how not? The wait,
would you play or not play with fire? We'll get
into what. Because it's not just children, even adults had

(31:43):
to pass a test, which basically consisted of doing a
bunch of chores. This is what I found. It was
literally like cut the wood off the floor, this is help.
They would help, yes, thank you. And I just thought
that was funny because they did the chores, deemed themselves
worthy when they showed up, and either they wanted to
earn a cure or rescue from danger or death of
a loved one, so they usually wouldn't show up on

(32:04):
behalf of themselves. It would be you know, oh my
fiance is sick and I need a cure, or oh,
my grandpa's well, okay, my uncle. If your grandpa's like
he's probably gonna die. Yeah. But if it's like my
mom or my brother or something, you would go you

(32:25):
had to do chores mainly, I know, right, but okay,
you can relate to this. Why do you ever have like,
you know, parents that are like, hey, do the dishes,
and you're like, hey, this isn't clean. Do it again?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I knew that he would know exactly what I'm
talking about. I do the same thing with my son.
But maybe that's it is, if if you got the
do it again thing, you failed got it right the
first time. Mm hmm. You can't do it right the
first time they do. See the Bobby Yaga is also
portrayed as a motherly figure, not just an old hag,
but not necessarily the way you would imagine. It's not

(33:02):
like she's you know, burping babies and doing all of that.
It said that she burst three dragons, one of which
had seven throats. I will avoid all of the bad jokes.
Literally wrote that in there, I will avoid a bunch
of jokes. Remind myself, don't make the jokes. But I
don't know why they didn't just say, oh, I just

(33:23):
had this awful, awful picture. It doesn't say seven heads.
It's just like three throats in one head. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I was just thinking of that. And then that doesn't
break up evenly.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So one of them has all well, well there's three dragons.
One of them has seven throats, so maybe the other
ones just have one. I don't know either way, I
wouldn't want to come toe to toe with this thing,
whatever it is. The dragons that were talking about were

(33:54):
slain by a quote unquote hero, and she essentially took
action to get revenge. It says that she swiftly stalked
the offender with a gaping mouth, said to cover from
the heaven to the earth as a pig.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
They like their pigs.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Huh, they do like their pigs. I should have looked
up the significance and symbolism of a pig in Slavic culture.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Some cultures are really against them because they eat anything.
Maybe that's what Maybe that's part of it. Pigs al
eat pretty much anything you give them.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
That actually does make a lot of sense. I was
just gonna make a joke about the fact that I
understand why she was riding the boer.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
I gotta chuck a lot of wine on that one.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's kind of what I have as a basis for
Bobby Yaga. So I kind of wanted to know what
your guys' thoughts were. Would you have followed Bobby Yaga
into the woods or would you have ran for the
Chicken lib mobile home.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
I want to be honest, if it seemed like a
woman that needed help, I probably would have. But I
feel like if they it was too many eerie or
just red flags happening, I feel like I would turn back.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
But it was a woman in a giant bucket with
a stick, because I guess if she was, because that's
at ly since she got around right, she was in
like a bucket and I'm guessing it floated. I would
be a lot of effort for an old lady. Yeah, yeah,
well they did. Okay, actually I did. I didn't put
this in here, but I remember seeing a thing where

(35:28):
so she traveled again border pestle, and she had a
broom that she would sweep up her tracks behind her,
So it must have been dragging the ground. That's a
lot of work my arms. Yeah, so Wyatt would have
potentially followed her into the woods. Okay, here's a better question.
Why if she was there, I feel like you would

(35:53):
have been like, here, come with me, I'll get you
something to eat, we'll get you taken care of, get
you something to drink and all that. But if she
said no, you need to come with me, would you
have followed her? No? There we go. But then again,
back then there was no such things. Run. They would run.
There's no stranger danger. You were taught very much. So

(36:15):
elders were very important to all of these places. I
don't know of a single place other than Egypt. I
mean Egypt. All their pharaohs were young, and they also
died very early, so maybe they were considered old. Yeah,
but there's a lot that the elders are very important people.

(36:39):
So I feel like she's got that going now. Granted,
she'd have to be in the bucket to hide the
bony leg right otherwise, girl, I can't help you. Well, America,
do you think you'd follow baba yaga, No, No, I don't, dumbass,
would I know that? I would. I'd be like, oh, okay, here,

(37:01):
let me help you, Like if oh, your house is
just right down here here, let me help you. Because
I'm an idiot, I would do it. I would be
baba yaga, meat and a heartbeat. I don't trust anything.
I would not know what. Yeah, So my thing too
is if you go into the house through the door
facing the human side and she flips it and you

(37:24):
come out on the underworld side one, do you notice
you're in the underworld side? Or is this like an
upside down situation from stranger things? And is there something
particular you have to do besides turn around and try
to convince her to turn the house around so that
you can get back. Maybe, I mean, is that part

(37:49):
of the test?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I mean, I feel like I wouldn't walk through the
door because if you could tell that it was different.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But it wouldn't look any different, That's what I'm.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Saying, Like if you didn't realize until it was too late,
But if you open that door and it looks like
an eclipse, right, you know how it's like darker and
had a situation, I'd yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, I'm just picturing that. It literally looks again she's magic.
It probably looks just like a little old lady's house
hut whatever. And you know, I mean I've gone into
old people's houses that I that I didn't know that
sounds really bad, like I borrowed something from somebody or
I really like I was like, hey, here's your dog,
Like your dog got out, and they're like, okay, I

(38:35):
just kind of I'm like, but I still went in.
I was kind of unhesitant. You know, it's got that
old person spell. But I was like, here's your dog.
You know. But if you cross the threshold and the
door like closes automatically, can you imagine the sheer panic.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, I don't think I would enter the house if
I ended up following theaga, but.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, sketchy. Yeah, And I'm on board with the chicken
legs and not the horse of the boar. What do
you think why chicken legs? I don't know, nobody likes them.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Isn't like chicken legs used in some sort of voodoo rituals?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Is it because they're fast? Are they? I mean?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah, I guess chickens canna be fast. Chickens are fast, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
And they do survive when you cut their head off.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I guess what else will she have picked?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
A wolf of up with four legs?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
A wolf that's been cool?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Oh yeah, that'd be pretty. That'd have been badass.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'd follow that one.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Or it's like the wolf, like the whole wolf is
just the head is the house. It's like looking around. Yeah,
that would have been way cooler than a chicken. I
don't know what the significant is. Maybe it's because maybe
it's because chicken feet are tough and they have the
three little prongs, you know, so it's easier for them
to get around and train. Maybe they're not because it
might be harder for say, a wolf to climb a mountain.

(40:02):
I guess never seen it. But the mountain goats, yeah,
they got they do. They have the special hoofs that
let them do that. And I'm like, how are you
not even falling over? I like fainting goats though, they're
my favorite. My son's friend has fainting goats, So they
go out there and scare them for fun. I mean,

(40:22):
come on, who.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
Wouldn't I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
All right, So we've already talked about we probably more
than likely I'd be the only idiot to follow bobbyag
into her house. We talked about the chicken legs. What
are your guys' thoughts on or anything else stand out
to you?

Speaker 4 (40:37):
What were the gold boots?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It just said that she was wearing golden boots. I
don't know if there was a particular reason.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
So was that like covering the chicken leg?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
No, so she's she herself is wearing Originally says that
she was wearing two boots. So she was a goddess
wearing two boots. So I guess that maybe there's a
gold goddess kind of factor there. Maybe again she had
magical stuff. Maybe her boots were magical, because gold, I
feel like, doesn't show up anywhere else in the story
of the lore. So I feel like maybe there's a
significance of gold being on her feet.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Covering that bone leg.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Well, because she wore both the boots and then one
of the boots and the leg turned into bone, so
that that boot's gone. Oh oh man, did she have
like a gamp you know? Because the boots does have
a feel on it. That is a good point. If
I feel like there should be more symbolism that I
didn't see in there. There's probably something somewhere, but I

(41:34):
do notice a lot of the folklore in this area
does not, whereas if you are in the Mayan, Aztec, Egyptian,
all of those areas, it is there's a lot of
gold in those spaces, But here, I feel like you
don't really hear a lot about really precious metals at all.
Maybe silver. They hate iron, Yeah, I don't know if

(41:56):
she does, but most fad does.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Did any of its say anything about how to ward
her off or what to do if you did encounter her?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Nope, screwed it, just your Yeah, you're just up shit creek,
I guess. But I think it was stay out of
the woods. If you stay out of the woods. And
because I never saw where it says that she comes
out of the woods, he's pretty usually it's what I've
gathered in. What I'm picturing is she's pretty deep. So
you're probably lost in the woods.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, so you're already screwed.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, i'd be screwed. I go in the woods all
the time.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Do you ever se anything weird in the woods?

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
That wasn't of your making. So I had my son
on here and he hunts all the time, and so
he actually is one of my episodes. He does like
all his stuff that in one of them looked like
a demon with two puck wedgies.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
I do actually have a creepy experience. It's not as
entertaining as that. But I was filming a scene and
we were using fake blood and just kind of scoping
out the woods for a good spot to do this scene.
And my friend goes over and he comes back with

(43:10):
a leaf covered in real blood and it was like
fresh because it was dripping.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, well it could have been animal. One leaf.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
He only brought back one. I don't know if there
was more over there, but there were a bunch of
homeless people that lived throughout those woods, so I don't
know if someone was taking some sort of drug and
wiped it off or something or at a bloody like
the leaf. It was a leaf about like this big,

(43:47):
and it was pretty covered, like you could see some
of the leaf, but like the blood was like dripping
off of it.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Oh shit, well you get negative two points for not investigating.
I would have been like, where did you find this leaf?
Take me there?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I know you didn't even get a picture.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
I got a video.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Oh okay, is it, by the way, your YouTube channel?
What do you do on your YouTube channel?

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I usually like review items on box things, talk about movies,
video games, and then obviously I make movies.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
How does that? How you do on that?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
I think I do pretty well.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Some things just hit the algorithm just right and it
gets me more views subscribers, things like that, I've been
live for over two years now.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Oh wow. Do you do them live or do you
just upload recordings?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
I upload recordings. I do do a couple live streams.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, so I'm doing here. I am helping you out
with free advertising, bro, Like, so what do you do?

Speaker 5 (44:52):
So?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I wish you knew more about that leaf, like where
it came from, if there were more, because it's covered,
there had to have been more.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yeah, I wish I knew where my friend went, Like
he went pretty far away from where me and my
other friends were, and then he just came back and
he was like holding it up, and we were all
like shocked, and we thought at first it was our
fake blood. But we put the leaf on the ground
and poured some of the fake blood out, and they

(45:23):
were not the same consistency. You could tell. Yeah, real blood.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
What time of year was it?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
It was actually wasn't in the fou No, it was
it was May. Yeah, it was towards the beginning of May.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Well.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
The reason I was asking is because if something got
shot during the hunting season and it was running and
it stopped, that it could it could drop in just
like a small space, but drop a lot of blood
before it took off again. But that doesn't make any sense.
I mean, I don't know what y'all do over in
your state, but we don't hunt anything substantial till fall,
when I think it was.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Too close to residents. Yeah, hunting, So maybe somebody was
illegally hunting. True, that's possible.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
But it was it's it wasn't. It was just wounded.
I mean it is. It is the woods, right, yeah,
but that is very weird to have that much and
the fact that it was dripping means that it wasn't
on there very long otherwise. Yeah, And he didn't see
anything running or nothing. No interesting.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Later that day on the on the filming day, I
did hear a voice in the woods, but like I said,
there's homeless people, so.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I just.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
It was it literally just hey, it just sounded like
someone saying hey.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Was it like a haller like a hey or was
it more like a hey?

Speaker 4 (46:48):
It was more like a haller. Okay, like someone saw
us and was like saying hey, but we didn't see anyone.
So weird.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I feel like if they were going out to call
you guys, I mean they would have probably do it again, right, yeah,
or tried to engage. Interesting. That is weird. Oh, that
is weird. I hope you guys didn't like Yeah, I
hope you wash your hands. You don't get some kind
of disease from yeah, okay, Okay. I was like, oh,

(47:19):
you don't know what.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
He was holding it by the stem, so like there's
no blood on the stem.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Hm hm.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Wash hands.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Okay, Well, I mean that was your bottle of water.
Would have got it off, but it's okay, we'll go
with it. Male brain, I mustn't water on it. Out
of side, out of mind. This is why we all
got the plague. Sorry, I gotta give you hell. What
are you okay? You got anything weird that that's happened

(47:47):
to you?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Oh? So I used to work overnight shifts. Oh, I'm
getting ready to start those.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, in the emergency department.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well I did it for ten years. I worked warehouse.
So I was on my way to work, and it
must have been like early summer, kind of right around
this time, so it got dark really late.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, So I'm driving to work.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
It's nine o'clock at nine thirty maybe, so like it's
still kind of right out, and we're on this road
that's actually it's not a it's kind of a back road,
like it's a cut through, but it's not. It's not deserted.
There's houses. There's actually a social field. Yeah, and then
there's a solar panel field right there, and then there's
a main highway like right there, so it's not secluded.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, it's like a place over here, like I know
you're not from here.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
So there's a couple of cars stopped in front of me,
and I'm already exhausted because my daughter was young and
I was tired, so I'm just like, can we get
moving already? And then I see the guy in a
big black truck. He gets out of his car and
he's looking in front of the in front of his vehicle,
and then he looks back at us, and like this

(49:03):
hairy thing just walks across the road on two legs,
just like walks across the road. Super hairy is like
a skinny sasquatch type thing. It was the insane and like,
thinking back, I can't even was it real, But it
had to have been because the way that this guy reacted,
like he took the time to put his vehicle in

(49:25):
park and look back at us, like are we seeing
the same thing right now?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I can't believe this guy got out of the stand truck.
It's right, a big guy.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
No, he wasn't taller than him. Yeah, it was a
good size.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I mean, but did you get a good view of
it since it was obviously on the other side of
the truck.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
So yeah, know it walked across the road from our
side to the opposite side into the brush.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
How tall would you say that? It probably was probably
like six or seven feet Okay, so i'd be like
a baby squatch.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, like it was gangly, like yeah, maybe he was.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Just like that awkward teenager. It was like a tween.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
It was like a teenage, like it didn't grow into
itself yet.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, you have a teenage?
Was it going fast or was it just like no,
weren't even there. It just it didn't acknowledge you guys
at all.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
No, Nope, they just walked across.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
That is bizarre.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
It was wild. It was wild.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I don't know what I would do if I hadn't.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I wish I hadn't been so exhausted to like so
I could have fully grabbed my phone took a video.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
Sad thing, But.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I'm just telling likest going.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, because he probably saw it off the road because
he was in front. I mean, I guess it was
daylight out. Yeah, it wasn't like it was dark. You
didn't notice it till across the street. But because you
were behind the truck, the truck guy probably saw it
coming and that's why why he stopped. It was like
what the hell is happening? Or like this thing is
it stopping?

Speaker 3 (51:01):
No, And it just walked across like it belonged there
and we didn't.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
On either side was and yeah, the solar panels on
one side that's pretty flat.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Well, the solar panels weren't there at the time they
are now.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Was the whole area just kind of flat? Yeah, it's
kind of marshy.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Oh actually, yeah, there's like a little creek.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
That's right there north to be skunkape.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yeah, but it is definitely a strange thing. Yeah, and
like there, So I don't even know where it could
have gone, because if it kept going in that direction,
it would have had to have crossed the road that's
right there, which is a main highway. So it would
have had to have crossed the main highway. There's nowhere
else for it to go other than somebody's backyard.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
True. I can't see it crossing the highway. I mean,
it obviously was ballsy.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I know, like it didn't care that we existed, like
it was that unless it's hope fell through a dimension
and it just warped away up.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Because that's what I was wondering. I mean, you see
across the street, did you guys watch it leave?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yeah, like it went into brush and then you couldn't
see it anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Oh okay, So that's what I was wondering. I didn't if
it was like all open and it just kind of
like vanished, or if but it went into actual brush.
So maybe it was like oh shit, at casual, at
casual act casual, no one sees the thing, all right,
I just don't mind me. I'm just gonna duck over
here behind these bushes, like my bad. Usually they at

(52:29):
least turn and acknowledge, No, that is so weird.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
No, this thing, it just it just waltzed across. So
maybe it did when it was in front of his
truck and I couldn't see it, maybe it did do that.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, I just but after it walked.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
To like the middle of the road where I could
see it.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
That is not crazy.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
It was. It's wild as a very shit.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I have like a normal like stride, like a person humanesque. Yeah,
I had like the little strut. Okay, well, because sometimes
they say that they have kind of like a juggernaut
type movement where they're kind of like sometimes they're like
kind of hunch. You know. I just didn't know if
it had good posture. I guess you could say regular posture. Okay,

(53:14):
it wasn't free and you could tell that it was
Harry all over. I mean again, reminder, guys, this is
not happening at night. It's not like, oh, I'm catching
a glimpse of this thing in my headlights. It is
light outside and she sees this. There is no if
Ann's butts. The guy clearly wasn't filming I mean it's
like he had a camera where they were like filming

(53:35):
a stunt or something. I mean that is before.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
This was before a lot of people had those dash cams.
Oh yeah, this was probably nine or ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I need to get me a dash cam. I'll be
driving a lot at night here soon, and I'm sure
we'll see something.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I used to see a lot of stuff, a lot
of animals.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Man harry Man and the Bloodily Yeah. Yeah, I wonder
if they were close to the same area. No, no, but
if you have some there, maybe it was just something
got injured. Yeah, maybe he would have seen something. I'm

(54:17):
on the Bloody Leaf too. I'm like, what you would
have seen something? Because I think that's super fresh for
it to be dripping.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
I wish my friend went in the woods, yeah, because
then we all could have went over.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
But he didn't remember.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
It's not we didn't even like they didn't even need.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
To ask, Yeah, boy, what kind of film? What?

Speaker 7 (54:43):
Who?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
What type of film were you filming?

Speaker 4 (54:47):
It's a thriller movie.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I didn't go look for the leaf, all right. Oh
you know what this opportunity? Oh goodness, that report card
you failed? Oh my gosh, just because it always just
like changed colors. I was read for a second. Now,
I'm just happened a couple of times. Yeah, usually some

(55:11):
something passes over my camera, so I have to do
one of these numbers and like redo it. All right.
So that's interesting that we got a bunch of kids
in the woods that see a bloody leaf filming a
horror film and don't investigate. I don't know. Maybe that
would be more was not to investigate.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
I was just gonna say that might be Maybe there's
me going.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Man, you can get some real good footage for your
I guess we can go ahead and wrap this up again.
Everybody that's Bobby Yaga and we have Erica and Wyatt subscribe.
Share only five star reviews. That's the rule. Only the
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(55:51):
I know, I've got the website. You can fight all
that down there. My merch is down there. Did you
guys have anything before we round it out? God?

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
All right, Well, and then till next time, everybody see ya.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Now that it's going bananas, it literally so my internet
was going cattywampus, and it does that. Sometimes I have
something that comes in when I record, I could be
here all day and have no problems. The moment I
start recording, it's like, hey, and in my thing, my
box goes how do I use it? And then the
internet shit. I was like, damn it, not like that.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
You don't use it? We do well?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Not here there's oh, it says there's five sopparly there's
five of them here. Okay. Never a dull moment on
the podcast, but anywho's let's let me make sure my
phone's on silent too, otherwise of somebody's gonna call me
O my look, okay, all right, So if I bypass
it and use the hotspot on my phone, sometimes that

(56:54):
helps ish. But they're very chatty, which reminds me to
do this because they really like to talk. If they
get too rude, I'll shut them off. But I've had
things that like the whole thing shuts down. It really
likes to mute my microphone. It thinks it's funny, like
I'll literally I mean, I've been sitting right here and

(57:15):
my board is a foot and a half from me,
and I've sat here and watched it turn the light
on and kill my mic I'm like, yeah, I'm like really,
I'm like, are you serious? And the other time, all
my lights started going off and my microphone muted, like
everything started going like weird. It's just inside my studio.
It says, I want to stay to see that I
threatened it. It's like, I want to stay. You can

(57:36):
stay as long as you don't kill my internet or
my microphone. Do we have an agreement?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
All right, technology and we're good, all right.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
But yeah, we're pretty laid back. Just feel free to
chime in if you want to interrupt me. It's fine.
I'm not gonna, you know, hold it against you or anything.
And I it's okay. But anyway, all right, you guys ready,
I get a little drink, a little bever Bridge. I'm
not drinking tonight. I gotta be on call in case
somebody dies. They want somebody sober picking them up. I

(58:06):
guess all right, welcome back everyone today. We have brand
new guests. Oh my god, guess I can talk today.
Tales Untold, which I typed in incorrectly three times when
I was looking for you guys to listen to your show.

(58:27):
I kept doing it. Backwards. It's like untold tales, and
I'm like, no, Danny, that's not right. So it says,
run now these things I told you. As soon as
we start recording, they like to chat. So again, I
always give everybody a chance here at the beginning to
just kind of introduce yourselves. Tell it why you do
what you do, whatever you guys want, it's your little
bit there to use what you want.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Take it away.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I'm Wyatt.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I've been on the podcast since it started. I'm one
of the co hosts, and I also do YouTube on
the side. I have a personal channel. I'm also an
the film director, so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
go subscribe to the Patreon feet. He literally got here
talk like this on here? Like we're gonna be in trouble.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Oh, I'm Erica. I This podcast was my idea. We
dubbed it after the book I wrote back in Septemberer,
yeah Stember, yeah September, which is also called Tales Untold
simply because they are tales that that didn't really end
as soon and that's pretty much something we talk about Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yeah, so I gotta have that ending, you know, that closure,
otherwise I'm.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Like, ah, nope, I think there's one out of the
thirteen in there that has closure. So it really you
close it and you're just.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
What and then you wonder about it. It'll be like
three am, and I'll be awake because my things like
to wake me up at three am, and I'll be like,
son of a bitch, Like I'm in the shower and
I'm like, you know what, yep. I not big with
unsolved mysteries or anything like that because of like, I've
got to have that closure. Speaking of did you add
that link to your book in the form.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
I don't think I did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Know it's on Amazon, add it in or send it
to me so I can plug it too the way
people can find it. Sure, Yeah, okay, awesome, And definitely.
I was listening actually earlier today before we were started.
I was making sure that I was getting caught up.
And by the way, your episode, what did you guys
call it? You called it plasma plasma creatures. Plasma creatures.

(01:00:32):
So I've listened to another podcast and they were describing
the same thing, and really they call them sky amibas.
And when you describing what Yeah, when you're describing what
they looked like, I was like, oh, it really does
look like a sky Amiba Like, I get it. But
I want to cover those two. I just haven't had
a chance to get to it yet, so I'm super excited.
There's a whole long list. I literally have a spreadsheet

(01:00:54):
with lists of topics that I want to cover, and
I'm trying not to be too heavy on one side
or the other because you cover you know, everything from
aliens and haunted and folklore and everything, so I'm trying
to be well rounded. I'm not the greatest at it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I know. We were trying to get back into the
spooky stuff. We keep hitting conspiracy theories, so I haven't really.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Hit a lot of conspiracy theories. So I'll definitely have
to brush up on those and we might have to
do another one one of these days.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yeah, we love the conspiracy theories because there's no way
to really know exactly tale.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
You have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Well, sometimes you do. We I did do one episode
where we did a uh which ones like some that
were proven true, and then we compared what was true
versus of the theory, and the truth was typically way
worse than the theory was. So I don't know why
they guess it worked up about us conspiracy theory people,
but I'm pretty sure because my research, I'm on a list,
So I'm fairly certain I'm on a list.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
From my writing. I'm sure i am too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah. It's like or I'm like, they probably think that
I'm murdered someone and take.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
To bleed out until you die.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
It depends on where you get stabbed, but it could
be up to three minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Yep, I've yep, that's in one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
If you're hemorrhaging internally, it could be seventy two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
It was a wrist, it was a very It actually
brought me to a suicide hotline like it was the me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I've had those I've had where it's like call here
like spousal abut I'm like, whoaha, I'm just doing research,
like it's okay, or they're like schizophrenia hotline and I'm like, okay,
I get it, I get it. But definitely so welcome here, guys.
I just wanted to kind of let you guys know
about that. Forbody listening, same old drill. I've got the
MS reader on I've got my sensors on, We've kind
of got everything, and I have my little chatty Cathy's

(01:02:36):
which have been silent. Thankfully, now they're going to call
me out. But just to be on the same side
in case they wanted to talk to you directly, I
have added your guys's name to the dictionary. Okay, well,
I sometimes I like to add them in there because
if they have a direct question or I want to
talk to somebout specific. I wasn't the greatest at that,
and I had people that were trying to get ahold

(01:02:58):
of my guests. So everything they were saying made sense
to my guest, but I didn't have their names. I
was like, I don't know what's going on. I was
off in left field, and that meant everything to this guest,
and I'm like, okay, I'm just the middleman, but ah,
let's do this thing, all right. So for everybody who's
been listening, we got a kind of a pattern here going.

(01:03:19):
I just did this a little bit. But this week
we are covering yet another wicked woman who wilted the
whimsy of wandering children across Europe. This once beautiful, bewitched
soul was banished and cursed for the rest of her
eternal existence. Her appetite for primarily children's tender human flesh
cooked in skulls instead of pots, unique method of transportation,

(01:03:40):
and extraordinarily exotic home puts her in a class all
on her own in the history of folklore. And he guesses, yet,
Baba Yaga, yes had a girl, all right, I always
like a people guess.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I knew it as soon as you said each children.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Do you know who Bobby Young is? Why?

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I don't know. I think you do. Hell Boy, I
have seen boy, but it's the house with the chicken legs.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
That's what they called John Wick, like in the John
Wick movies they call him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
So it's yes, I've heard, it's yes, he's right now.
I did the same thing. I was like, what But anyway,
the reason that's confusing we'll find out here a minute.
But which is funny that you just said that? Because
I literally have with appearances in Dungeons and Dragons, Scooby Doo,
Spirited Away, John Wick, and hell Boy franchise. It is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I am obsessed with Scooby Doo, So I think I've
seen every single one out I like the old ones.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yes, those are my favorite, not so much the new ones,
but yeah, they kind of killed it. I just I can't.
I never beat Zombie Island. There's there's two of them,
rued it probably ruined it. You can't beat the og
but Scooby Doo a side. Obviously, we're doing Bobba Yaga. Now.

(01:05:10):
I wanted to just kind of start with some simple stats, right,
you got you always gotta know and the oh my god,
the stats that I have here are kind of basic. Again.
Now we're gonna have a long one here, because she's
not just known as Bobby Yaga. She's got a long
list of names. But in many culture, baba means grandmother
or old woman, which I mean, way to be subtle,

(01:05:34):
the old hag. Right, I have something in here that
calls me hag, and I think it's very old. I
think it's a generational thing that just kind of follows me.
But it's not necessarily nice. So we'll find out. Now,
there are origins all the way. So there's South Slavic
and I am going to butcher all of these names.
I am so sorry everyone or anyone who's listening who's

(01:05:57):
like this bitch. It's horrible. Away so I think it's
it's not very thank you. Uh, oh my gosh, Jazevo
it's j e z i v o and it means
chilling or horrifying. There's Germanic, which is I'm assuming it
looks like jaeger or jeger. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
The chan is usually why sound.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah as his huntsman. And then Russian it's looks like
yogat jagat y a g a t, which is yo
curse or rage. And then you have Croatia. Serbia is
jess a horror, chill and shudder, Polish as witch says
real original and check is female forest spirit. These are

(01:06:40):
not all just the words, it's just the meaning of
the word. There Bulgarian sickness and illness, Lithuanian to torture,
even the pro oh my gosh, proto Samuel, Oh my god,
help me out. Here s a m O y e
d oh see that's where I went to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
Samuel simoid samoyed samoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Maybe I don't know, Sorry guys, anyways, that's Goddess of death.
Either way, you can't pronounce it, but you're going down.
But there's the Anglo saxon, which is doubt, worry or pain.
Old Norse even has it as pain or worry, and
some people say that it means snakes or vipers, which
I'm not sure exactly how that would tie in evil.

(01:07:26):
This is okay, So apparently this is evil. All right,
thank you for contributing to the podcast. Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I'd say, she is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah, it definitely falls into that category. Now, the first
mention of her name was in Russian text in seventeen
fifty five, but a lot of people believe that it
was in like a oral tradition, oral folklore well before that.
It's just that's the first time they found her written.
So yeah, I think she's probably been around a lot longer.

(01:07:56):
I would say, yeah, probably. And then and there's authors
make mention of her through multiple texts. So there's that
oh my god, I cannot read or speak today. That's
Melissa the Beautiful Sorry I probably pronounced that round too.
But there's the Frog Princess, and then this original title

(01:08:16):
Ready Ready, Baba Yaga and the kind Hearted Girl. Thank you,
we're putting one out here, I can freaking say. And
one thing I thought was kind of interesting. So we
all know kind of the basic house structure, but it
says that she hails from the Oh my god, underworld
nav I think nov In a V and that's yeah.

(01:08:39):
It's classified as the realm of the dead in Slavic mythology,
So I guess it's like Haiti for most.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Yeah, I love.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
How I don't pick a normal religion to go off of.
I think Haiti. Jesus never a dull moment, guys, I'm
telling you, but we'll just go with it. Now. Many
believe this magical and missy dimension is something that you
can get lost in very easily. So again, if you

(01:09:14):
guys saw hell boy, that environment that she is sitting
in is pretty gloomy, right, It just looks like a
giant ball of miss with some dead trees and yeah,
in her house, which is and he just kind of
stumbles into it. Now, granted he was summoned there, but
you can see in that atmosphere where if somebody was

(01:09:35):
walking and accidentally stumbled. I don't know whether it be
thank you the grave they're helping me out today, but
a portal or something you can see where you all
a sudden you're like, wait a minute, what happened? What's
going on? It gives me very big wind to go
vibes too, like you would expect this wind to go
to be crawling out from somewhere. Either way, she had

(01:09:57):
enlisted a.

Speaker 6 (01:10:01):
Of the Fay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
It was uh, what is that word? When they replaced
the child a changeling change links? Yes, yeah, she was
trying to change to be a human.

Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
I did an episode on change links for sure. No,
in the regular episode. Oh no, did I not train
going by? Oh? It's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
It's very loud.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Are they usually? Oh my god? Are they usually long trains?

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
No? Not usually they're freights, so they're not They're not
way long.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
I'll just say we can wait, I can just take
it out. I don't care. I really don't care either way,
We'll just keep going. Horn. Yeah, so I was waiting
for another one. Usually they're like pretty quick, so that's
like waiting for it. I'm like, wait, one car, there's
one car going to the tracks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
No, it should be hitting the crossing there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
There it goes. The other day I the cross thing
came down. I was in a town like forty five
minutes away from me and is notorious for trains, and
you're always stuck. So I was like, okay, well the
thing the arm starts coming down. I'm like, ah shit,
I'm not gonna make it. So I stop and I'm
sitting there for a solid minute or two and I'm
looking both ways. There's no train, the arms down, and

(01:11:17):
then I'm like, oh, wait, here comes one. Wait, it's
just it's just the engine train, just the engine car
and it's coming and it stops like full stop before
the crossing, and I'm like, what is happening? I would
be the person who gets stuck out of train tracks
with no train kills me. I don't know. It passed.

(01:11:39):
We're good, okay, if I always okay, we're good. Sorry.
Sometimes I seem frozen, but I'm really not. I'm just buffering.
But because of this dimension that she's in, that's kind
of misty. They think that her origin became like started
as Slavic pagan goddess, which is of the underworld as well,

(01:12:00):
so she didn't wonder far from the underworld, and essentially
once everybody was being indoctrinated against their will and the
rise of the patriarchy, they took her and put her
into a fairy tale esque role. So she went from
being this goddess to a mean old bat. I guess yeah,

(01:12:23):
I mean I would be hell. I mean, even if
you're in the underworld. I mean someone's got to have
the job, right, I mean, we all have the people
that clean out the shitters. M hmm. Everybody's got a job.
I still keep looking at Wiatt. I'm like, dude, you
look like you're twelve. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
You just got that baby face. You just are growing
a beard, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
We're very enclosed. I am right now, I am melting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Oh say, I'm right by an air Vin though I
was strategic strategically placed my studio. I've actually got a
blanky and a long sleeve shirt on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
No, we enclosed ourselves in sheets and this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Room is full of windows. Ah. So I was in
a studio like that once.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Yeah. So we're just trapped and it's I'm turning bright red.
I'm very hot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I should get a fan, gets this fan from the
outside that you like blow the air in. Okay, anyway,
we'll try to bred this up that you guys aren't
melting on me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Aside from her house, which we'll get into it a
little bit. They say that she has magically enhanced possessions,
but I didn't get a lot of ideas as to
says black. Yes, we're all in black. We're all wearing black.
We're all in black. Thank you. Oh we were my
black makeup today. So they really do. They like it

(01:13:39):
when my hair is down. They like it when I
do my studio makeup, especially the black. I don't know,
they're weird, but whatever, But I never got an idea
of what possessions they actually had. Apparently she's got some
stuff that is magical, which makes sense if she's a wit. Yeah, yeah,

(01:14:00):
goddess yeah. And aside from the most commonly described old
hag witch type thing, she's also been identified as an ogre.
I love the word ogre because it looks like o
gray or agra. I'm gonna start coining it that. That's
gonna be interesting. But for those of you that aren't

(01:14:21):
well versed in the world of folklore, and ogre is
essentially a legendary monster, often depicted as a large, hideous
human like being that is known for eating humans, particularly children.
So I don't know which came first, the chicken or
the egg. But maybe she was called an ogre because
she ate children or maybe ogres. Yeah, she was an ogre,

(01:14:45):
so she ate children. I don't know, but it is
kind of interesting because you don't in folklore you hear
a lot about kids going missing it, which I guess
you do have it because you have Hansel Gretel. They
have they're getting getting eaten essentially by a witch, well
baba yaga, ogres. So it's like they're not alone. There's

(01:15:08):
not a whole lot, I don't think. I think they're
all pretty much classified, all under the same umbrella.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
But there were probably they were probably stories that really
just tried to keep children away from the woods, you know,
so they wouldn't get lost, so they wouldn't get eaten
by animals.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Wind Goes apparently I've stuck on the wind Goes. The
Windy ghosts. They're on my brain right now, apparently. But
they do the same thing. I mean, because if you
think about it, these places where these lore are coming
up at are not like vast plains of Montana. I
don't even know what's in Montana, like Icelander, grip, whatever,
doesn't have trees. Okay, the board, Yeah, thank you, the desert.

(01:15:49):
You know, it's not these places. It's all the lore
about things eating you in the woods are all because
there are literally things that could eat you in the woods.
So there is very much that kind of piction of
don't go out there, it's not safe. But this one,
I feel like there's a little bit there that you
you should kind of sort of be like, wait a minute,

(01:16:10):
let's let's hold the phone. It al so almost all
depictions of the Disturbing Deity show her sporting a light
brown dress with an overlaying white apron. So if you
just see an old woman in a brown dress with
a white apron, you're probably not gonna feel too threatened,
are you. What about you cookie monster? You're gonna take

(01:16:31):
cookie from the witch with ob sessame Street. Oh wait,
I'll have to bleak that out, soide, don't get trouble.
I don't know if I'll get in trouble for that
or not, but don't have me no TMS. I'm not
claiming it, but I mean, she doesn't sound in this
beginning description very threatening, right, I mean, just sounds like
some old lady out doing her business. And occasionally she'll

(01:16:55):
be wearing a dark brown sash or a headscarf or
and or a head car. Again, doesn't sound too threatening.
Maybe she's like it be out, feels like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
A very general peasant old woman.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Look that is we are on point. You are on
it literally next line very medieval peasant sounding. For the
most part. That's great. This is good. I would like
to point out I've I worked on these notes for
probably two solid weeks and never spoke to them about
any of it. Okay, just to clarify, I do that

(01:17:29):
a lot with people. I have guests on it, and
like they're saying something like I literally wrote that like
verbatim in here, So we're on POI that means that
you were meant to do this episode with me. We're connected.
It's weird. But other versions say that she sports some
like ragged dirty clothes, which hmmm. On one hand, you're like, man,

(01:17:52):
this girl needs a shower, or maybe she's like homeless
or But at the same time, think about it, young man,
looks kind of like dirty in her clothes are all

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
I mean I would help her, like like get her
food or water, or something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
He would assist he's a good young man, solid, chivalrous.
I like it. I had a feeling you were. So
it's almost like she comes across regardless. So far, so far,
totally just benign. This is my favorite one. Occasionally, she

(01:18:35):
said to rock a red hat and black corset placed
over a gray dress like this is actually quite alluring
in my opinion, I would rock the shit out. That
sounds like something somebody would wear nowadays. They'd have their
hair like bright red. Yes, or well, hold on see
if you can. You can't really see it as much.

(01:18:56):
There you go, it's red. It's red. I changed the
lights so it doesn't look as much like a tomato,
and they get mad at me when I turn the
lights up, so I gotta keep them down. They literally
pointed out, they'll be like it's too bright. Sorry, I
feel you man, I like the dark. But yeah, this
one's this one was fashionable.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
My favorite is her accessories. Well, one set in particular
says that she is sporting a groovy pair of golden boots. Groovy.
I just liked I like the groovy. Uh it doesn't
it doesn't say what they look like. It just says
they're golden boots. I'm picturing more of like Pirate esque.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, the fled over on the top.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Yeah, that's what I'm picturing, and like just like a
small like a small wedgie heel, but not not too much,
just enough then yeah, yeah, that's what I'm picturing. But
that I had to make sure I put that in there,
that she is known to wear golden boots, because it
will come in later.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
All right, Now, the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Wicked Witch isn't even confined to a location, even if
she's under house arrest. Most of the time when you
hear lore, it is there's again Hansel and Gretel, there's
a place in the forest. Even when you go with
what is the new movie Tangled, essentially it's one location.

(01:20:21):
All of these things are pretty stationary, not with Baba Yaga,
which is where I just I love this. This is fantastic.
So her filthy flat sit atop a rather feathery foul
foundation quite literally literally, So for those of you who
don't know, they say her home is mobilized by two

(01:20:43):
large chicken legs, and not the original herbs and spices
kind we're talking feathered feet. Well, the feet aren't feathered,
but you know what I mean, feathered legs.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
They got a little toughs at the top.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Yes, and it does say large. Oh just said pathetic, rude.
They're they're little, ye watching they're spicy, But with me,
it's how large is large? How cause again, if you
watched it on TV, even if you watch it so
in spirit It Away, I don't remember the house being

(01:21:16):
on chicken legs, but she does. We'll get it to
it in a little bit. Why. She looks like, if
have you seen Spirited Away? It's been a while. I
watched it in high school. Hey did you watch spirit
It Away? Okay? Okay, yeah, right by the way, I
totally know Osmosis Jones and love Ozmosis Jones. Go listen

(01:21:37):
to their episode. Y'all will thank me later. I'm looking
at it and I'm like, is you gonna know this
was going? Literally just watched it like a month ago.
It was on Hulu and I was like, yeah, there's
a Saturday Morning cartoon section. I was like, yes, it's
what what they want. Okay, so they want to watch
asmsas Jones. We're done. We could probably do that. Guys.

(01:21:57):
Some of them are my kids, so they do like
to watch cartoons. So all right, so we have chicken
legs under the house, but it's not always chicken legs.
I've heard that some of them are on rams horns
or sitting on a spindle. Do you know what a
spindle is?

Speaker 10 (01:22:17):
Kind of okay, sleeping meeting.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
Is with the like thread or yarn, Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah,
I know what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Yeah, and sometimes do they sometimes call the what you
put the yarn on the spindle this old wooden and
they thread the yarn around it and then you use it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
To so yeah, yeah, the wheel thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah, yeah, okay. Anyway, so those those But speaking of houses,
of Horrors, I did see her referred to as a

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Well, I mean, in Slavic times there they wouldn't have
a house.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
You know, with vinyls or anything. Well, that's true, unless
she like a size or is it just what it's
made of.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
I guess the hut would kind of refer to what
it's made of, you know, like your your straw roof,
kind of like a house in a shed, yeah, kind
of yeah, yeah, it wouldn't be huge.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Okay, He's like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't over there. Yeah. Well,
the reason I brought up the size alone was because
they say that Bobby Yaga covers a considerable bit of
that capacity, Like she big girl. Supposedly, if the house
is big, then she's a big girl. But not only that,
but so much so that her nose is said to

(01:23:38):
either stick out of or touch the roof, which is
why it's spirited away. But so I was saying it,
look because she has that really long nose. I'm just
trying to figure out how your nose is so big
that it touches the ceiling. If it's a decent size.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
House, it's a good thing. She's magic. She doesn't have
to abide by the laws of physics.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Oh yeah, I guess there is that here. I am
trying to rationalize it. Oh yeah, inside joke actually funny part.
We used to laugh because my mom always has her
pictures of her like you know, boyfriends and her prom
or you know, eighth grade dance whatever, and she always
dated these dudes with these like huge snazzes. My dad
doesn't have a big nose. Neither is my stepdad. But

(01:24:23):
these guys had like huge honkers, and so that's our
ongoing joke, is that my mom likes dudes big noses.
But anyway, maybe they're related to Bobby Juga. Yeah right,
But if the house on hinge, oh my gosh, if
the house on hin haunches and extra large schnabs was
not weird enough, this worrisome wretch doesn't even get around

(01:24:43):
on our own two legs. Aha. So well. Not only that,
but common legend describes her obedient abode again as the
gateway of the afterlife. So upon command, she can order
the living quarters to turn and face the door, either
towards the living or towards the dead. So if it's

(01:25:05):
facing the living, someone can, oh, look at this house,
let me go investigate or stumble in, and she can
on demand turn it so then when they walk out,
they're screwed you. So kind of I guess, like when
I guess in Hell boy is the best one I
could come up with, where he comes in and then
the door closes, but it opens and he's like somewhere else,
like there's something's happening. It's kind of like that, so

(01:25:27):
she could turn it on demand supposedly, but she does
leave her house, and once she does, it's said that
she zips around by means of mortar propelled by a pestel.
Don't worry, I will go into what they are. Okay,
sounds kind of funny. It sounds like she's like a
bombing people or something. Now, if you look at photos
of her, it looks like she's in a rather large

(01:25:50):
bucket using a stick like an oar, like a little
paddle is what it looks like. So essentially, the large
bowl and a club like looking tool is used for crushing, grinding,
or mixing things, where the bull is the mortar and
the pestle is the stick. So if you see a
lot of which craft esque things and they're mixing and

(01:26:12):
they have that weird ceramic it looks like a rock
or stone bowl and they have this like the random
stick and they're mashing stuff in it, that's what we're
talking about. Yeah, sometimes it's kind of hard to picture. Yeah,
oh wow, Okay, but you don't know what Moss Jones
got it. Okay. I did see a couple of places
where mentioned that she could be seen riding a horse

(01:26:34):
or a bore, And I'm thinking if she's as big
as a house almost, that poor horse, And how the
hell is it on a bore?

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
a good enough.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
that's a big bore. You got there? Yeah. And another
fact I found about Bobby Yaga that was rather interesting
to know was that she's said to be a little,
uh top heavy it goes early, Yeah, a little top heavy.

(01:27:12):
And her tatas hang over a rod. Although I'm not
sure what the rod is attached to, but I understand
hanging thing like.

Speaker 8 (01:27:23):
Just walks around with it under our arms.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Like, well, what if it's okay, hold on, let's see here.
What if, like I said, the bucket that you see
here in is less a mortar but more of like
a portable. Well, we have the the thing, oh my god,
the bucket. When you get the well water at bottom,
you got a quick crankeet. Maybe she's just sitting on

(01:27:46):
the edge and they're just got to hold them up somehow.
Truth man, hit, Oh boy, it's okay. We had a
discussion before we started. Just to clarify pre usals. They
do say, though, that she was not always an eternal

(01:28:07):
ugly hag. Supposedly, legends says that she had recommended the
less vels Veals foc v e l e s, a
prominent god of livestock and Slavic paganism, and she recommended
for him to contain the heavenly cattle from the heaven

(01:28:27):
prav so navis is the underworld prov is heaven, well
essentially hasgard whatever I love, how none of my things
have a basic religion. So he did as she suggested.
The gods were caloric, and they cursed her. Yes, that
means pissed off. Sorry, I was just prettybody who's like, wait,
I probably need to change her word. When this happened,

(01:28:50):
one of those classy golden boots became a brutal bony
leg and they brand they oh my god, they banned
her from her beauty, so they turn her leg into
bone and made her ugly as hell.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
So they had magic to make her magic, and then
they don't like that she has magic.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
So the problem was that she had convinced the god
of the livestock to withhold the cattle from the rest
of the gods, and they didn't like that she talked
him into it. Hmm. Probably, judging by the fact that
she now doesn't have beauty, was probably rather involved in
that category of persuasion. Yes, just the thought. Now, speaking

(01:29:37):
of legs, I believe she's this said with one leg
in the land and one leg in the realm of
the underworld. Ah, making her possibly one of the oldest
accounts of living dead girl.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
She A Zambie.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Oh it says I want to talk. Sorry, okay, hi, hello, Hello,
hi okay. Gave him the opportunity. They didn't take it.
Oh that is so funny. I just paused and I
write it. Literally player now disclaimer here is a bit
gruesome and it involves children. To skip ahead if you

(01:30:13):
can't handle it. I literally put insert long pause, which
we just did. All right, okay, if you're back. We're
talking about children and it gets grew like brutal, So okay,
I don't like this party there. One of the most
infamous ideologies of Bobby Yaga is her creepy cuisine. She

(01:30:36):
is known for eating people, especially children, so she eats
both her first children. But there's actually a reason for
this concept coming into the life of the lore surrounding her,
and I couldn't. I couldn't find a way to rewrite
it and do it as much justice. So there's a link.
It's gonna be down here for my description, and all
my sources are gonna be there, and there's a site,

(01:30:56):
a article on medium dot com, and I'm just gonna
quote it. I'm probably gonna mispronounced it, but I'm gonna
quote it the best I can, all right. So it
says the ritual of Oh my gosh, para pekani or
parapec was done exclusively on a stove called petchka. Happy

(01:31:22):
about that one An infirm or sick child was washed
with spring water, wrapped in dough, and put into a warm,
clean oven which had previously been heated with herbs. The
child was baked aka reborn, so they would pass the
quote unquote sickness to the dough and become healthy. It

(01:31:43):
was best cure for illnesses in the northern climate. This
right could be done only by a knowledgeable woman, the
priestess healer, because only she knew the special dough recipe
and could perform the ritual. None of that says it
was fake.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
like they're marinate in the oven. I guess innocent. Yes,
they were innocent, and they're sticking them in the oven.
their babies in ovens, wrapped in dope. They were making
like pizza rolls.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Essentially, yeah, people did wild stuff trying to get in
what they thought was curses.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
mean essentially you're still a child. I mean in this time,
in this day and age, you got what six months
before you're a full fledged adult. But before that you'd

(01:32:54):
have already been married with two kids or four or whatever.
So I'm guessing that I know, he is sweet, it
goes sweet. I'm guessing that it's more maybe eight and under.
I feel like back then, I mean, because you were
basically get married off if you were an adult by
the time you were eleven, So I would guess probably

(01:33:17):
closer to that. But still, can you imagine wrapping up
a talk one how do you get to toddler to
stay wrapped in dull sinceable? Thank you?

Speaker 7 (01:33:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Exactly how they doing that? At least it's agreeing with me.
Uh and then to I mean, I guess if it's
really sick, it wouldn't fight you, right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
our Superstitious episode. So not the one that had come
you know, back when Bobby Aga was probably yeah, you know,
super popular, is you had a really high chance of
that child not surviving past their seventh birthday.

Speaker 10 (01:33:56):

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
seven became like a lucky number because.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
It actually makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Yeah, once that child hits seven, you're like we're out
of the woods, Like he's gonna survive, Like there's a
good chance that I will make it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
was some kind of religious thing, because like he you know,
seven days to create whatever. I thought it was a
religion thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Not huh, I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
I like that. That's a that's a good point because
I was thinking. I was under the impression that it
wasn't necessarily that the kids were dying. I mean, the
kids were dying, but it was more at birth situation.
But I knew that the lifespan of adults was substantially lower.
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Yeah, even children like it took a long time for

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
And that's the thing too, is it? I really like that?
So I'm still saying, I'm like that is that is good?
I'm gonna have to remember that. Maybe that's right. I
like that. We're going with it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
It's right, you'll like that, you'll like that episode?

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Then yes, we'll definitely because I guess I was listening
to last week's or this When when do you release Saturday? Okay,
so this, yeah, but let's still be last week. So
this week is at the end of the week. The
latest was the latest episode. But one thing I thought
was interesting was not all of the children were eaten

(01:35:19):
by Bobby Yaga. Like that's not even It's not, Oh,
every kid's gonna go in there and get eaten. According
to some of the lore, visiting Bobby Yaga was symbolic
of an initiation into adulthood for many children. Oh my gosh,
look at that segue. Didn't mean that landed nicely and
I didn't mean to. So essentially they would travel to
Bobby Yaga's hut and pass a test to officially complete

(01:35:41):
the right of passage. So I don't know what the
test was for the children, but there's a test fire
pop quiz. How do you play with fire? Or how
not to wait? Would you play or not play with fire?
We'll get into what because it's not just children, so

(01:36:03):
even adults had to pass a test, which basically consisted
of doing a bunch of chores. This is what I found.
It was literally like cut the wood off the floor,
this is help. They would help, yes, thank you, And
I just thought that was funny because they did the chores,
deemed themselves worthy when they showed up, and either they
wanted to earn a cure or rescue from danger or

(01:36:24):
death of a loved one, so they usually wouldn't show
up on behalf of themselves. It would be you know,
oh my fiance is sick and I need a cure,
or oh my grandpa's well it's okay, my uncle, your
grandpa's like he's probably gonna die. Yeah, but if it's
like my mom or my brother or something, you would

(01:36:46):
go you had to, I guess do chores mainly, I know, right,
but okay, you can you can relate to this. Why
do you ever have, like, you know, parents that are like, hey,
do the dishes, and you're like, hey, this isn't clean.
Do it again?

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
But maybe that's it is. If you got the do
it again thing, you failed, no cure for no cure
for you. I'm burning the hell. It's all right, put
it right the first time. Mm hmm. You can't do
it right the first time. Don't do it? Where's graveyard? Okay,

(01:37:24):
this is all about graveyards. But they do say that
Bobby Yaga is also portrayed as a motherly figure, not
just an old hag, but not necessarily in the way
you would imagine. It's not like she's you know, burping
babies and doing all of that. It said that she
burst three dragons, one of which had seven throats. I

(01:37:45):
will avoid all of the bad jokes, literally wrote that
in there. I will avoid a bunch of jokes. Remind myself,
don't make the jokes. But I don't know why they
didn't just say, oh, I just had this awful, awful picture.
It doesn't say seven heads, like three throats in one head. Yeah,
I was just thinking of that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
And then that doesn't break up evenly.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
So one of them has all well, well there's three dragons.
One of them has seven throats, so maybe the other
ones just have one. I don't know either way, I
wouldn't want to come toe to toe with this thing,
whatever it is. And this thing is like, chat it up,

(01:38:29):
it's death. I don't know what whose death it's talking about,
but uh who? Okay? The dragons that were talking about
were slain by a quote unquote hero and she essentially
took action to get revenge. It says that she swiftly
stalked the offender with a gaping mouth, said to cover
from the heaven to the earth as a pig. They

(01:38:55):
like their pigs. Huh, they do like their pigs. I
should have looked up the significance and symbolism of a
pig and Slavic culture, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
eat pretty much any think you give them.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
understand what she was riding the boar.

Speaker 9 (01:39:18):

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
But yeah, so that I thought was interesting. But that's
kind of what I have as a basis for Bobbyaga.
So I kind of wanted to know what your guys'
thoughts were. Would you have followed Bobby Yaga into the
woods or would you have ran for the Chicken lib
mobile home.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
I'm gonna be honest, if it seemed like a woman
that needed help, I probably would have. But I feel
like if there was too many like eerie or just
red flags happening, I feel like I would turn back.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
A woman in a giant bucket with a stick because
I guess if she was because just got around right.
She was in like a bucket and I'm guessing it floated.
I would a lot of effort for an old lady. Yeah, yeah,
well they did. Okay, actually I did. I didn't put
this in here, but I remember seeing a thing where

(01:40:15):
uh so she traveled again border Pestle, and she had
a broom that she would sweep up her tracks behind her,
So it must have been dragging the ground. That's a
lot of work up my arms. Yeah, oh that's interesting.
That's mine. They're fighting, so okay, so Wyatt would have

(01:40:36):
potentially followed her into the woods. Okay, here's a better question.
Why if she was there, you would have I feel
like you would have been like, here, come with me,
I'll get you something to eat, we'll get you taken
care of, get you something to drink and all that.
But if she said no, you need to come with me,
would you have followed her? No? There we go. But

(01:40:59):
then it in back then there was no such saces. Run.
They would run. There's no stranger danger essentially, and you
were taught very much. So elders were very important to
all of these places, I mean every I mean, I

(01:41:20):
So I feel like she's got that going now. Granted,
bony leg right, Otherwise I'd be like, girl, I can't

(01:41:44):
help you. Well, America, do you think you'd follow Baba Yaga? No, No,
I don't sass. Would I know that I would. I'd
be like, oh, okay, here, let me help you, Like
if oh, your house is just right down here here,
let me help you. Because I'm an idiot, I would
do it. I would be Baba Yaga meat in a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
I don't trust anything.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
I would not know what. Yeah. So my thing too
is if you go into the house through the door
facing the human side and she flips it and you
come out on the underworld side one, do you notice
you're in the underworld side? Or is this like an
upside down situation from Stranger Things? And is there something

(01:42:33):
particular you have to do besides turn around and try
to get visit her to turn the house around so
that you can get back maybe, I mean, is that
part of the test.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
I mean I feel like I would. I would, just
I wouldn't walk through the door because if.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
You if you could tell that it was different, but
it wouldn't look any different.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
That's what I'm saying like if you didn't realize until
it was too late, But if you open that door
and and you know that it looks like an eclipse, right,
you know how it's like darker and that kind.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Of situation, i'd yeah, yeah, I'm just picturing that it
literally looks again she's magic. It probably looks just like
a little old lady's house hut whatever. And you know,
I mean I've gone into old people's houses that I
that I didn't know that sounds really bad, like I
borrowed something from somebody or I really like I was like, hey,

(01:43:29):
here's your dog, Like your dog got out, and they're
like okay. I just kind of and I'm like, uh,
buy STI went in. I was kind of unhesitant. You know,
it's got that old person spell. But I was like,
here's your dog. You know. But if you cross the
threshold and the door like closes automatically, can you imagine
the sheer panic.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
I ended up following the yaga, but yeah, it'd be sketchy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Yeah, And I'm still I am one hundred percent on
board with the chicken legs and not the horse of
the boar. What do you think why chicken legs? I
don't know, nobody likes them.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Isn't like chicken legs used in some sort of voodoo rituals.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
I know exactly where you're going with that, right. It
was like I heard you say it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
We have another train coming.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Ah, hear the train of coming. It's coming around the bend. Sorry,
I've been a jukebox all day today, but that is
a good point. It's the only thing that I would
say I don't know about is the voodoo. Wasn't that
primarily like Africa, South America type? Not necessarily Slavic area.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
I think Santa Ria is Southern America, not South America
like southern and the United States like Caro, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Bot this out. But where do you think they came from?

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:44:59):
I know, I know, I want to take this out,
but I know I know that like that's where that's
where I hear a lot of information.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
That's where you can find it in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Yeah, like that's where you can find it now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Yeah, and but it might be I mean, I'm just
why chicken legs? Is it because they're fast? Are they?
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Yeah, I guess chickens canna be fast.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Chickens are fast, yeah, and they do survive when you
cut their head off.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
I guess what else would she have picked? A wolf
with four legs? A wolf that's been cool.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Oh yeah, that'd be pretty. That'd have been badass.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
don't know what the significant is. Maybe it's because maybe
it's because chicken feed are tough and they have the
to get around a train. Maybe they're not because it
might be harder for say, a wolf to climb a

(01:45:59):
mount I guess never seen it, but I know billy
goats are like that. Her mountain goats, Yeah, they do.
They have the special hoofs that let them do that.
And I'm like, how are you not even falling over?
I like fainting goats though, they're my favorite. My son's
friend has fainting goats, so they go out there and

(01:46:21):
scare them for fun. I mean, come on, who.

Speaker 7 (01:46:24):

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
than likely I'd be the only idiot to follow Bobby
Jag into her house. We talked about the chicken legs.
What are your guys' thoughts on or anything else stand
out to you?

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
So was that like covering the chicken leg?

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
No, so she's she herself is wearing originally says that
she was wearing two boots, So she was a goddess
wearing two boots. So I guess that maybe there's a
gold goddess kind of factor there, Maybe that again she
had magical stuff. Maybe her boots were magical, because gold,
I feel like, doesn't show up anywhere else in the
story of the lore. So I feel like maybe there's
a significance of gold being on her feet covering that

(01:47:12):
bone leg. Well, because she wore both the boots and
then one of the boots and the leg turned into bone,
so that that boot's gone. Oh so, oh man, does
she have like a gamp you know, because the boots
on it that is a good point. You know, I
feel like there should be more symbolism that I didn't

(01:47:33):
see in there. There's probably something somewhere, but I do
notice a lot of the folklore in this area does not,
whereas if you are in the Mayan, Aztec, Egyptian, all
of those areas, it is there's a lot of gold
in those spaces, But here, I feel like you don't
really hear a lot about really precious metals at all.
Maybe silver. They hate iron. Yeah, well I don't know

(01:47:57):
if she does, but most fad does.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Did any of it say anything about how to ward
her off or what to do if you did encounter her, Nope, screwed.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
It, just your Yeah, you're just up shit creek, I guess.
But I think it was a I mean, essentially it
was stay out of the woods. If you stay out
of the woods. And because it never I never saw
where it says that she comes out of the woods.
He's pretty usually, it's what I've gathered in. What I'm
picturing is she's pretty deep. So you're probably lost in
the woods.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
Yeah, i'd be screwed. I go in the woods all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Do you ever se anything weird in the woods that
wasn't of your making. So I had my son on
here and he hunts all the time, and he's seen
multiple things in the woods like creepy af kind of shit,

(01:48:58):
like Kryptons are like weird. So he saw a hat man. Really, yeah,
he was in there, so he actually it's one of
my episodes. He does like all his stuff that and
one of them looked like a demon with two puck wedgies.
He didn't know what they were. He was just explaining
it to me what he was seeing, and it sounds
like two puck wedgies that summoned something. And when they
realized that he saw them, this thing goodbye. I guess goodbye.

(01:49:24):
This thing got down and was like crawling like they
were on the They were by a puddle and like it. Well,
he thought it was a puddle and you know the
Lava lady from Moana when she gets down and she's
like crawling towards her. He said, it was kind of
like that, and then it went down like it disappeared

(01:49:44):
into this puddle. I was like, dude, that was a
freaking portal. That was not it was a puddle portal.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
entertaining as that. But I was filming a scene for
the short film and we were using fake blood and
just kind of scoping out the woods for a good
spot to do this scene. And my friend goes over

(01:50:14):
and he comes back with a leaf covered in real
blood like and it was like fresh because it was dripping.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Yeah, well it could have been animal.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
It could have been animal. Uh, he only brought back one.
I don't know if there was more over there, but
there were a bunch of homeless people that lived throughout
those woods, so I don't know if someone was taking
some sort of drug and wiped it off or something
or at a bloody like the leaf. It was a

(01:50:50):
leaf about like this big, and it was pretty covered,
like you could see some of the leaf, but like
the blood was like dripping off of it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Oh well, you get negative two points for not investigating.
Take me there?

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
I got a video.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Oh okay, is it? By the way, your YouTube channel,
what do you do on your YouTube channel?

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
How does that? Uh? How you do on that?

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
I think I do pretty well. Some things just hit
the algorithm just right and it gets me more views, subscribers.
Things like that, I've been live for over two years now.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Oh wow, do you do them live or do you
just upload recordings?

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Okay, so I'm doing here. I am helping you out
with free advertising, bro, Like, so what do you do? So?
I wish you knew more about that that leaf, like
where it came from, if there were more, because if
it's covered, there had to have been more.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
Yeah, I wish I knew where my friend went, Like
he was like holding it up and we're all like shocked,
and we thought at first it was our fake blood.
But we put the leaf on the ground and poured
some of the fake blood out, and they were not

(01:52:30):
the same consistency. You could tell, Yeah, real blood.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
It was actually the fou No, it was it was
like four weeks. No, it was it was May. Yeah,
it was towards the beginning of May.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
The reason I was asking is because if something got
shot during the hunting season and it was running and
it stopped, that it could it could drop in just
like a small space, but drop a lot of blood
before it took off again. But that doesn't make any sense.
I mean, I don't know what y'all do over in
your state, but we don't hunt anything substantial till fall.
I think it was.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Too close to residential areas, yeah, hunting, so maybe somebody
was illegally hunting. True, that's possible, but it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Was it's it wasn't. It was just wounded. I mean
it is. It is the woods, right, Yeah, but that
is very weird to have that much And the fact
that it was dripping means that it wasn't on there
very long otherwise. Yeah hmmm. And he didn't see anything
running or nothing. No interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Later that day on the on the filming day, I
did hear a voice in the woods, But like I said,
there's homeless people, so.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
It was it literally just hey. It just sounded like
someone saying hey.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Was it like a holler like a hey or was
it more like a hey?

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
It it was more like a hauler. Okay, like like
someone saw us and was like saying, hey, but we
didn't see anyone, so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
you guys, I mean, they would have probably done it again, right, yeah,
or tried to engage. Interesting. That is weird. Oh that
is weird. I hope you guys didn't like, yeah, I
hope you wash your hands, you and get some kind
of disease from yeah, okay, okay, I was like, oh,

(01:54:30):
you don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
He was holding it by the stem, so like there's
a blood on the stem.

Speaker 10 (01:54:35):
Hmm, wash their hands.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Would have got it off. But it's okay, we'll go
with it. Male brain, it wasn't water on it. Out
got the plague, sorr. I gotta give you hell.

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
You got anything weird that that's happened to you?

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Ooh so I used to work overnight shifts.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Oh I'm get ready to start those. Yeah, an emergency department.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Well I did it for ten years. I worked at
a warehouse. So I was on my way to work
and it must have been like early summer, kind of
right around this time, so it got dark really late.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
Yeah, so I'm driving to work.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
It's nine o'clock at nine thirty maybe, so like it's
still kind of bright out, and we're on this road
that's actually it's not a it's kind of a back
road like it's a cut through, but it's not. It's
not deserted. There's houses, there's there's actually a socimond field, yeah,
and then there's a solar panel field right there, and
then there's a main highway like right there, so it's

(01:55:46):
not secluded.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Yeah, it's like a place over here, like I know
you're not from here.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
No. So there's there's a couple of cars stopped in
front of me, and I'm I'm already exhausted because my
daughter was young, and I'm i was tired, so I'm
just like, can we get moving already? And then I
see the guy in a big black truck. He gets
out of his car and he's looking in front of
the in front of his vehicle, and then he looks

(01:56:13):
back at us, and like this hairy thing just walks
across the road on two legs, just like walks across
the road super hairy is like a skinny sasquatch type thing.
It was insane and like, thinking back, I can't even
like was it real? But it had to have been
because the way that this guy reacted, like he took

(01:56:36):
the time to put his vehicle in park and look
back at us, like are we seeing the same thing
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
I can't believe this guy got out of the stand
truck right right, big guy.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
good size, I mean, but didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Get a good view of it since it was obviously
on the other side of the truck.

Speaker 3 (01:56:57):
So you know, it walked across the road from our
side to the opposite side into.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
How tall would you say that? It probably was probably
like six or seven feet Okay, so i'd be like
a baby squatch.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
Yeah, like it was gangly, Like yeah, maybe it's.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Just like that awkward teenager. It was like a tween.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
itself yet.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, you have a teenage?
Was it going fast or was it just like no,
weren't even there. It just it didn't acknowledge you guys
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
That is bizarre.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
I wish I hadn't been so exhausted to like so
I could have fully, you know, grabbed my phone took
a video.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Sad thing. But I'm just telling like cast going. Yeah. Well,
I mean because he probably saw it off the road
because he was in front. I mean, I guess it
was daylight out. Yeah, it wasn't like it was dark. No,
it was enormative thing because I mean you didn't notice
it till across the street, but because you were behind
the trucks, the truck guy probably saw it coming and

(01:58:12):
that's probably why he stopped. Was like what the hell
is happening? Or like this thing is it stopping?

Speaker 8 (01:58:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
And it just walked across like it belonged there and
we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
On either side, was I know, Yeah, the solar panels
on one side, that's pretty flat.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
are now.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
Was the whole area just kind of flat? It it's
kind of marshy. Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Actually, there's like a little creek that's right there to north.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
To be skunk ape.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
like there, so I don't even know where it could
have gone because if it kept going in that direction,
right there, which is a main highway. Well, so it
would have had to have crossed the main highway. There's
nowhere else for it to oh, other than somebody's backyard.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
True like it, but I mean I can see it
crossing the highwayman. It obviously was ballsy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
I know, like it it didn't care that we we
existed like it was that unless it's hope fell through
a dimension and it just like warped away after.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
across the street, did you guys watch it leave?

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
see it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
Oh okay, So that's what I was wondering. I didn't
if it was like all open and it just kind
of like vanished, or if but it went into actual brush.
So maybe it was like oh shit, at casual, at casual,
at casual, no one sees a thing, all right, I
just don't mind me. I'm just gonna duck over here
behind these bushes, like my bad. But I mean usually

(01:59:49):
they at least turn and acknowledge. No, that is so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
truck and I couldn't see it, maybe it did do that. Yeah,
I just but after it walked to like the middle
of the road where I could see it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
That is not crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
It was is wild as a very shit.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
I have like a normal like stride, like a person
human esque humanoid stride. Yeah, I had like the little strut. Okay, well,
because sometimes they say that they have kind of like
a juggernaut type movement where they're kind of like sometimes
they're like kind of hunched, you know. M I just
didn't know if it was like had good posture. I
guess you could say, I mean regular posture. Okay, it

(02:00:35):
wasn't free and you could tell that it was hairy
all over. I mean again, reminder, guys, this is not
happening at night. It's not like, oh, I'm catching a
glimpse of this thing in my headlights. It is light
outside and she sees this. There is no if Anne's butts.
The guy clearly wasn't filming. I mean it's like he
had a camera where they were like filming a stunt

(02:00:57):
or something. I mean that is before.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
of animals.

Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
Man harry Man and the Bloody Leaf. Yeah yeah, I
wonder if they were close to the same area. No, kay no,
but if you have some there, maybe it was just
something got injured. Yeah maybe macmah, he would have seen something.
I'm still on the Bloody Leaf too, I'm like, what

(02:01:39):
the fuck you would have seen something? Because I think
that's super fresh for it to be dripping.

Speaker 4 (02:01:46):
I wish that my friend went in the woods, yeah, like,
because then we all could have went over.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):

Speaker 4 (02:01:56):
It's not we didn't even.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
Like they didn't even need to ask, Yeah, boys, what
kind of film?

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:02:05):
Who?

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):

Speaker 4 (02:02:09):
It's didn't go look for leave all right, Oh my,
you know what this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
Oh goodness, on that report card you failed. Oh my gosh,
because I just like changed colors. I was read for
a second.

Speaker 3 (02:02:30):
Now it just happened a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Yeah, usually some something passes over my camera, so I
have to do one of these numbers and like redo it.
All right, So that's interesting that, Uh, we got a
bunch of kids in the woods that see a bloody
leaf filming a horror film and don't investigate. I don't know,
maybe that would be more was not to investigate.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
I was just gonna say that might be maybe there's me.

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
Going man, you can get some real good footage for
your well, I guess we can go ahead and wrap
this up. So again, everybody, that's Bobby Yaga and we
have Erica and Wyatt. So just so you guys know
when this comes out, I think it's going to be

(02:03:11):
two weeks from now. I'm gonna put all your guys's
links down below, so everybody out there can go down.
They click on it, like subscribe, share only five star reviews,
that's the rule. Only the best for my people, So
go check them out. Don't forget. I know I've got
the website. You can find all that down there. My
merch is down there. Do you guys have anything before

(02:03:33):
we round it out? No?

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
I don't think so, all.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
Right, well, and then so next time, everybody see ya bye.
Now that it's going bananas it literally so my internet
was going cattywampus, and it does. Sometimes I have something
that comes in when I record. I could be here
all day and have no problems. The moment I start recording,

(02:03:58):
it's like, hey, and in my thing, my box goes,
how do I use it? And then the internet shot.
I was like, damn it, not like that. You don't
use it?

Speaker 4 (02:04:06):
We do?

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Well? Not here there's oh it says there's five, So
apparently there's five of them here. Okay, never dull moment
on the podcast, But anywhos, let's let me make sure
my phone's on silent too, otherwise somebody's gonna call me,
oh my look, okay, all right, So if I bypass

(02:04:28):
it and use the hotspot on my phone sometimes that
helps ish. But they're very chatty, which reminds me any
to do this, because they really like to talk. If
they get too rude, I'll shut them off. But I've
had things that like the whole thing shuts down. It
really likes to mute my microphone. It thinks it's funny,

(02:04:49):
like I'll literally, I mean, I've been sitting right here
and my board is a foot and a half from me,
and I've sat here and watched it turn the light
on and kill my mic I'm like, yeah, I'm like really,
I'm like, are you serious? And the other time, all
my lights started going off and my microphone muted, like
everything started going like weird in just inside my studio.

(02:05:09):
It says, I want to stay to see net. I
threatened it. It's like, I want to stay. You can
stay as long as you don't kill my internet or
my microphone. Do we have an agreement? All right?

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
Technology and we're good, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
But yeah, we're pretty laid back. Just feel free to
chime in if you want to interrupt me. It's fine.
I'm not gonna, you know, hold it against you or anything.
And I it's okay. But anyway, all right, you guys. Ready,
I get a little drink, a little bev bridge. I'm
not drinking tonight. I gotta be on call in case
somebody dies. They want somebody sober picking them up. I

(02:05:43):
guess all right. Welcome back everyone today we have brand
new guests. Oh my god, guess I can talk today.
Tales Untold, which I pyped an incorrectly three times when
I was looking for you guys to listen to your show.

(02:06:04):
I kept doing it backwards. It's like untold Tales, and
I'm like, no, dangy, that's not right. So it says,
run now these things I told you. As soon as
we start recording, they like to chat. So again, I
always give everybody a chance here at the beginning to
just kind of introduce yourselves. Tell it why you do
what you do, whatever you guys want, it's your a
little bit there to use what you want.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
Take it away.

Speaker 4 (02:06:25):
I'm Wyatt. I've been on the podcast since it started.
I'm one of the co hosts, and I also do
YouTube on the side. I have a personal channel. I'm
also an indie film director, so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
go subscribe to the Patreon feed. He literally got here
talk like this on here? Like we're gonna be in trouble.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
Oh I'm Erica. I. This podcast was my idea. We
dubbed it after the book I wrote back in September. Yeah, yeah, September,
which is also called Tales Untold simply because they are
tales that that didn't really end as soon and that's

(02:07:12):
pretty much the thing we talk about.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
Yeah, So I gotta have that ending, you know, that
closure otherwise I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:07:17):
Like, ah, nope, I think there's one out of the
thirteen in there that has closure. So it really you
close it and you're just.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
What and then you wonder about it. It'll be like
three am, and I'll be awake because my things like
to wake me up at three am, and I'll be like,
son of a bitch, Like I'm in the shower. I'm like,
you know what, yep. I am not big with unsolved
mysteries or anything like that because of like, I've got
to have that closure. Speaking of, did you add that
link to your book in the form?

Speaker 3 (02:07:46):
I don't think I did.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
Know it's on Amazon, added in or send it to
me so I can plug it too the way people
can find it. Sure, Yeah, okay, awesome, and definitely I
was listening actually earlier today before we were started. I
was making sure that I was getting caught up. And
by the way, your episode, what did you guys call it?
You called it plasma plasma creatures Plasma creatures. So I've

(02:08:09):
listened to another podcast and they were describing the same thing,
and really they call them sky amibas, and when describing what, Yeah,
when you're describing what they looked like, I was like, oh,
it really does look like a sky amiba. Like, I
get it. But I want to cover those two. I
just haven't had a chance to get to it yet,
so I'm super excited. There's a whole long list. I

(02:08:29):
literally have a spreadsheet with lists of topics that I
want to cover, and I'm trying not to be too
heavy on one side or the other because you would
cover you know, everything from aliens and haunted and folklore
and everything. So I'm trying to be well rounded. I'm
not the greatest at it.

Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
I know. We're trying to get it back into the
spooky stuff. We keep hitting conspiracy theories, so.

Speaker 1 (02:08:51):
I haven't really hit a lot of conspiracy theories, so
I'll definitely have to brush up on those and we
might have to do another one one of these days, we.

Speaker 3 (02:09:00):
Love the conspiracy theories because there's no way to really
know exactly told tale.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
You have no idea, well, sometimes you we. I did
do one episode where we did a uh which ones
like some that were proven true, and then we compared
what was true versus the theory, and the truth was
typically way worse than the theory was. So I don't
know why they guess it worked up about its conspiracy
theory people, but I'm pretty sure because my research, I'm
on a list. So I'm fairly certain I'm on a

(02:09:27):
list from my writing.

Speaker 3 (02:09:28):
I'm sure i am too.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Yeah. It's like or I'm like, they probably think that
I murdered someone and take to bleed out until you die.
It depends on where you get stabbed, but it could
be up to three minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
Yep, I've yep.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
That's in one of the If you're hemorrhaging internally, it
could be seventy two hours.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
It was a wrist, it was a very It actually
brought me to a suicide hotline like it was the
concerned for me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
I've had those I've had where it's like call here,
like spousal abuse. I'm like, whoa, whoa, I'm justing research
like it's okay, or they're like, schizophretty hot, and I'm like, okay,
I get it, I get it, but definitely so welcome here, guys.
I just wanted to kind of let you guys know
about that for everybody listening, same old drill. I've got
the MS reader on, I've got my censors on, We've
kind of got everything, and I have my littlechatty cathies

(02:10:13):
which have been silent thankfully now they're going to call
me out. But just to be on the same side
in case they wanted to talk to you directly, I
have adage your guys's name to the dictionary. Okay, well,
I sometimes I like to addhim in there because if
they have a direct question or want to talk to
somebody specific. I wasn't the greatest at that, and I

(02:10:33):
had people that were trying to get ahold of my guests.
So everything they were saying made since to my guest,
but I didn't have their names. I was like, I
don't know what's going on. I was off in left
field and they meant everything to this guest and I'm like, okay,
I'm just the middleman, but let's do this thing, all right,
So for everybody who's been listening, we got a kind

(02:10:55):
of a pattern here going. I just did this a
little bit. But this week we are covering yet another
wicked woman who wilted the whimsy of wandering children across Europe.
This once beautiful, bewitched soul was banished and cursed for
the rest of her eternal existence. Her appetite for primarily
children's tender human flesh cooked in skulls instead of pots,
unique method of transportation, and extraordinarily exotic home puts her

(02:11:18):
in a class all on her own in the history
of folklore. And he guesses, yet, Baba Yaga, Yes, had
a girl, all right. I always like when people guess.

Speaker 3 (02:11:30):
I knew it as soon as you said eat children.

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
Do you know who Bobby Yong is? Why? I think
you do?

Speaker 3 (02:11:38):
Hell boy, I have seen her, boy, But it's the
house with the chicken legs.

Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
That's what they called John Wick. Like in the John
Wick movies. They call him Baba Yaga.

Speaker 1 (02:11:50):
So it's yes, I've heard, it's yes, he's right now.
I did the same thing. I was like, what But anyway,
the reason that's confusing we'll find out here to it.
But which is funny that you just said that, because
I literally have with appearances and dungeons and dragons, Scooby Doo,
Spirited Away john Wick and hell Boy franchise it.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
I'm I am obsessed with Scooby Doo. So I think
I've seen every single one out.

Speaker 1 (02:12:15):
Yes it is like the old ones. Yes, my favorite,
not so much the new ones, but the kind of
killed it. I just I can't. I'll never beat Zombie Island.
There's there's two of them, ruined probably ruined it. You

(02:12:36):
can't beat the o G but Scooby do aside, obviously
we're doing Bobby Yaga. Now. I wanted to just kind
of start with some simple stats, right, you got you
always gotta know and the oh my god, the stats
that I have here are kind of basic. Again. Now

(02:12:56):
we're gonna have a long one here, because she's not
just known as Bobby Yaga. She's got a long list
of names. But in many culture, baba means grandmother or
old woman, which I mean, way to be subtle, the
old hag. Right, I have something in here that calls
me hag, and I think it's very old. I think

(02:13:17):
it's a generational thing that just kind of follows me,
but it's not necessarily nice, so we'll find out. Now.
There are origins all the way. So there's South Slavic
and I am going to butcher all of these names.
I am so sorry everyone or anyone who's listening who's
like this, bitch, it's horrible. But anyway, so I think

(02:13:37):
it's not very thank you. Oh my gosh, Jazevo it's
j e z ivo and it means chilling or horrifying.
There's Germanic, which is I'm assuming it looks like jaeger
or jeger. Yeah, the Chan is usually why so yeah,
as as Huntsman, and then Russian it's looks like yogat, jagat,

(02:14:02):
y a g a t which is yell, curse or rage.
And then you have Croatia. Serbia is jess a horror,
chill and shudder, Polish as witch say real original, and
check is female forest spirit. These are not all just
the words, it's just the meaning of the word. There
Bulgarian sickness and illness, Lithuanian to torture, even the pro

(02:14:25):
oh my gosh, proto Samuel, Oh my god, help me out,
here s a m O y e ed Oh see
that's where I went.

Speaker 5 (02:14:35):
To samoid samoyed samoy maybe I don't know, sorry guys.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Anyways, that's goddess of death. Either way, you can't pronounce it,
but you're going down. But there's the anglio saxon, which
is doubt, worry or pain. Old Norse even has it
as pain or worry, and some people say that it
means snakes or vipers, which I'm not sure exactly how
that would tie in evil. This is okay, So apparently

(02:15:03):
this is evil. All right, thank you for contributing to
the podcast. Appreciate it. I'd say, she is, Yeah, it
definitely falls into that category. Now, the first mention of
her name was in Russian text in seventeen fifty five,
but a lot of people believe that it was in
like a oral tradition, oral folklore well before that. It's

(02:15:25):
just that's the first time they found her written. So yeah,
I think she's probably been around a lot longer. I
would say, yeah, probably. And then there's authors make mention
of her through multiple texts. So there's that oh my god,
I cannot read or speak today, that's Alissa the Beautiful.

(02:15:48):
Sorry I probably pronounced that wrong too, But there's the
Frog Princess and then this original title Ready Ready Baba
Yaga and the Kind Hearted Girl. Than putting one out here,
I could freaking say. And one thing I thought was
kind of interesting. So we all know kind of the
basic house structure, but it says that she hails from

(02:16:08):
the oh my god, underworld nav I think a nov
in a V and that's yeah. It's classified as the
realm of the dead in Slavic mythology, so I guess
it's like Haiti for most.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
Yeah, I love how I.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
Don't pick a normal religion to go off of. I
think Haiti. Jesus never dull moment, guys, I'm telling you,
but we'll just go with it. Now. Many believe this
magical and missy dimension is something that you can get
lost in very easily. So again, if you guys saw

(02:16:51):
hell Boy, that environment that she is sitting in is
pretty gloomy, right. It just looks like a I had
all a miss with some dead trees and yeah, in
her house, which is and he just kind of stumbles
into it. Now, granted he was summoned there, but you
can see in that atmosphere where somebody was walking and

(02:17:13):
accidentally stumbled. I don't know whether it be thank you
the grave they're helping me out today, but a portal
or something you can see where you all a sudden
you're like, wait a minute, what happened? What's going on?
It gives me very big wind to go vibes too,
like you would expect this wind to go to be
crawling out from somewhere.

Speaker 3 (02:17:32):
Either way, she had enlisted a of the Faye it
was uh, what is that word? When they replaced the
child a change change links? Yes, yeah, she was trying
to change to be a human.

Speaker 1 (02:17:48):
Ah, I did an episode on change Links forty sure. No,
in the regular episode. Oh no, did I not train
going by?

Speaker 7 (02:17:59):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
It's okay. It's very loud. Are they usually?

Speaker 10 (02:18:04):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Are they usually long trains?

Speaker 3 (02:18:08):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
Not.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
Usually they're freights, so they're not. They're not way long.

Speaker 1 (02:18:13):
I'll just say we can wait, I can just take
it out. I don't care. I really don't care either way.
We'll just keep going to the horn. Yeah. So I
was waiting for another one. Usually they're like pretty quick,
so I was like waiting for it. I'm like, wait,
one car, there's one car going to the tracks. No,
it should be hitting the crossing. There, there it goes.
The other day, I the cross thing came down. I

(02:18:33):
was in a town like forty five minutes away from me,
and it's notorious for trains and you're always stuck. So
I was like, okay, well the thing the arm starts
coming down. I'm like, ah shit, I'm not gonna make it.
So I stop and I'm sitting there for a solid
minute or two and I'm looking both ways. There's no train,
the arms down, and then I'm like, oh, wait, here

(02:18:55):
comes one. Wait, it's just it's just the engine train,
just the engine car, and it's coming and it stops
like full stop before the crossing, and I'm like, what
is happening? I would be the person who get stuck
into train tracks with no train kills me. I don't

(02:19:15):
know it passed. We're good, okay, ye, And if I
was okay, we're good. Sorry. Sometimes I seem frozen, but
I'm really not. I'm just buffering. But because of this
dimension that she's in, that's kind of misty. They think
that her origin became like started as Slavic pagan goddess,
which is of the underworld as well, so she didn't

(02:19:37):
wonder far from the underworld. And essentially, once everybody was
being indoctrinated against their will and the rise of the patriarchy,
they took her and put her into a fairytale esque role.
So she went from being this goddess to a mean
old bat. I guess yeah, I mean I would be hell.

(02:20:01):
I mean, even if you're in the underworld. If someone's
got to have the job, right, I mean, we all
have the people that clean out the shitters mm hmm.
Everybody's got a job. People will get wiet. I'm like, dude,
you look like you're twelve. Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:20:13):

Speaker 1 (02:20:17):
He's got that baby face. You just are growing a beard.

Speaker 3 (02:20:21):
You and we're very enclosed. I am zoom right now.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
I am melting. Oh say, I'm right by an air
vin though I was strategic strategically placed by studio. I've
actually got a blanket and a long sleeve shirt on.

Speaker 3 (02:20:34):
No, we enclosed ourselves in sheets and this this room
is full of windows.

Speaker 1 (02:20:39):
Ah. So I was in a studio like that once.

Speaker 3 (02:20:41):
Yeah. So we're just trapped and it's I'm I'm turning
bright red.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
I'm very hot. You should get a fan, gets a
fan from the outside, and you like blow the air in. Okay, anyway,
we'll try to bride this up that you guys are
melting on me. Now. Aside from her house, which we'll
get into it a little bit, they say that she
has magically enhanced possessions. But I didn't get a lot
of ideas as to says black. Yes, we're all in black.

(02:21:07):
We're all wearing black. We're all in black. Thank you. Oh,
we wear my black makeup today, So they really do.
They like it when my hair is down. They like
it when I do my studio makeup, especially the black.
I don't know, they're weird, but whatever. But I never
got an idea of what possessions they actually had. Apparently

(02:21:30):
she's got some stuff that is magical, which makes sense
if she's a wit yeah, yeah, goddess yeah. And aside
from the most commonly described old hag, which type thing,
she's also been identified as an ogre. I love the
word ogre because it looks like oh, gray or a

(02:21:52):
I'm gonna start coining it that that's gonna be interesting.
But for those of you that aren't well versed in
the world of vocal or. An ogre is essentially a
legendary monster, often depicted as a large, hideous human like
being that is known for eating humans, particularly children. So
I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg.

(02:22:15):
But maybe she was called an ogre because she ate children.

Speaker 3 (02:22:18):
Or maybe ogres.

Speaker 1 (02:22:20):
Yeah, she was an ogre, so she ate children. I
don't know, but it is kind of interesting because you
don't in folklore you hear a lot about kids going
missing it, which I guess you do have it because
you have handsel Gretel they have. They're getting getting eaten
essentially by a witch, well baba yaga, ogres, so it's

(02:22:43):
like they're not alone. There's not a whole lot, I
don't think. I think they're all pretty much classified, all
under the same umbrella.

Speaker 3 (02:22:51):
But probably they were probably stories that really just tried
to keep children away from the woods, you know, so
they wouldn't get lost, so they wouldn't get eaten by animals.

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
Windy Goes apparently I've stuck on the wind Goes. The
Windy Ghosts. They're on my brain right now, apparently, but
they do the same thing. I mean, because if you
think about it, these these places where these lore are
coming up at are not like vast plains of Montana.
I don't even know what's in Montana, like Icelander, Grip, whatever,
doesn't have trees, okay, the boxer, Yeah, thank you, the desert.

(02:23:25):
You know, it's not these places. It's all the lore
about things eating you in the woods are all because
there are literally things that could eat you in the woods.
So there is very much that kind of depiction of
don't go out there, it's not safe. But this one,
I feel like there's a little bit there that you
you should kind of sort of be like, wait a minute,

(02:23:46):
let's let's hold the phone. It al So, almost all
depictions of the Disturbing Deity show her sporting a light
brown dress with an overlaying white apron. So if you
just see an old woman in a brown dress with
a white apron, you're probably not gonna feel too threatened,
are you. What about you, cookie monster? You're gonna taste

(02:24:07):
cookie from the Witch with sesame street Oh wait, I'll
have to bleak that out so I don't get trouble.
I don't know if I'll get in trouble for that
or not. But don't have me no tms. I'm not
claiming it, but I mean she doesn't sound in this
beginning description very threatening, right, I mean, just sounds like
some old lady out doing her business. And occasionally she'll

(02:24:32):
be wearing a dark brown sash or a headscarf, and
or a headscarf. Again, doesn't sound too threatening.

Speaker 3 (02:24:39):
Maybe it be out feels like a very general peasant
old woman.

Speaker 1 (02:24:45):
Look that is we are on point. You are on
it literally next line, very medieval, peasant sounding. For the
most part. That's great. This is good. I would like
to point out I worked on these notes for probably
two solid weeks and never spoke to them about any
of it. Okay, just to clarify, I do that a

(02:25:06):
lot with people have guests on it and like they're
saying something like I literally wrote that like verbatim in here,
So we're on POI that means that you were meant
to do this episode with me. We're connected. It's weird.
But other versions say that she sports some like ragged
dirty clothes, which hmmm. On one hand, you're like, man,

(02:25:29):
this girl needs a shower, or maybe she's like homeless,
or but at the same time, Think about it, young man,
looks kind of like dirty and her clothes are all

Speaker 4 (02:25:45):
I mean I would help her, like like get her
food or water or something.

Speaker 1 (02:25:51):
He would assist. He's a good young man, solid, chivrous.
I like it. I had a feeling you were, so
it's almost it's like she comes across regardless. So far,
so far, totally just benign. This is my favorite one. Occasionally,

(02:26:11):
she said, to rock a red hat and black corset
placed over a gray dress like this is actually quite
alluring in my opinion, I would rock the shit out.
That sounds like something somebody would wear nowadays.

Speaker 3 (02:26:24):
They'd have their hair like bright red.

Speaker 1 (02:26:25):
Yes, or well, hold on see if you can. You
can't really see it as much there, it's red. It's red.
I changed the lights so it doesn't look as much
like a tomato, and they get mad at me when
I turn the lights up, so I gotta keep them down.
They literally pointed out. They'll be like it's too bright. Sorry,

(02:26:48):
I feel you, man, I like the dark. But yeah,
this one's this one's fashionable. Yeah, my favorite is her accessories. Well,
one set in particular says that she is a groovy
pair of golden boots. Groovy from I just liked. I
like the groovy. Uh, it doesn't it doesn't say what

(02:27:10):
they look like. It just says they're golden boots. I'm
picturing more of like Pirate esque. Yeah, the fold over
on the top, Yeah, that's what I'm picturing, and like
just a small like a small wedgie heel, but not
not too much, just enough. Then yeah, yeah, that's what
I'm picturing. But that I had to make sure I
put that in there, that she is known to wear

(02:27:31):
golden boots, because it will come in later. All right, Now,
the Wicked Witch isn't even confined to a location, even
if she's under house arrest. Most of the time when
you hear lore, it is there's again Hansel and Gretel,
there's a place in the forest. Even when you go
with what is the new movie Tangled, essentially it's it's

(02:27:56):
one location. All of these things are pretty stationary. Not
with Baba Yaga. This is fair. I just I love this.
This is fantastic. So her filthy flat sit atop a
rather feathery, foul foundation quite literally literally, So for those

(02:28:17):
of you who don't know, they say her home is
mobilized by two large chicken legs and not the original
herbs and spices. Kind we're talking feathered feet. Well the
feet aren't feathered, but you know what I mean, feathered legs.

Speaker 6 (02:28:29):
They got the little toughs at the top.

Speaker 1 (02:28:30):
Yes, and it does say large. Oh just said pathetic rude.
There they're little, you know, watching they're spicy, But with me,
it's how large is large?

Speaker 3 (02:28:45):
How?

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
Because again, if you watched it on TV, even if
you watch it so in Spirited Away, I don't remember
the house being on chicken legs, but she does. We'll
get it to it in a little bit. Why she
looks like, I have you seen Spirited Way? It's been
a while. I watched it in high school? Hey did
you watch spirit It Away? Okay, okay, yeah, right by

(02:29:08):
the way, I totally know Osmoses Jones and love Osmosis Jones.
Listen to their episode. Y'all will thank me later. I'm
looking at it and I'm like, you know this was
going literally just watched it like a month ago. It
was on Hulu, and I was like, yeah, there's a
Saturday Morning cartoon section. I was like, yes, it's what

(02:29:30):
what they want. Okay, so they want to watch as
Mosas Jones. We're done. We could probably do that. Guys.
Some of them are my kids, so they do like
to watch cartoons. So all right, So we have chicken
legs under the house. But it's not always chicken legs.
I've heard that some of them are on rams horns
or sitting on a spindle. Do you know what a

(02:29:50):
spindle is?

Speaker 4 (02:29:54):
Kind of okay, sleeping meetings?

Speaker 9 (02:29:57):
Is the.

Speaker 4 (02:30:00):
Like thread or yarn? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it. Yeah,
I know what that is.

Speaker 1 (02:30:05):
Yeah, and sometimes do they sometimes call the what you
put the yarn on the spindle this old wooden and
they thread the yarn around it and then you use it.

Speaker 3 (02:30:13):
To so yeah, yeah the wheel thing.

Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
Yeah yeah, okay. Anyway, so those those But speaking of houses,
of Horrors, I did see he referred to as a

Speaker 3 (02:30:31):
Well, I mean, in Slavic times there they wouldn't have
a house, you know, with vinyl sighting or anything.

Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
Well, that's true unless you maybe like a size or
is it just what it's made of.

Speaker 3 (02:30:44):
I guess the hut would kind of refer to what
it's made of, you know, like your your straw roof,
kind of.

Speaker 1 (02:30:49):
Like a house in a shed, Yeah, kind of. Yeah, yeah,
it wouldn't be huge. Okay, He's like, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't over there.

Speaker 10 (02:30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:31:00):
Well, the reason I brought up the size alone was
because they say that Bobby Yaga covers a considerable bit
of that capacity. Like she big girl. Supposedly, if the
house is big, then she's a big girl. But not
only that, but so much so that her nose is
said to either stick out of or touch the roof,
which is why I'm spirited away. But so I was

(02:31:21):
saying it, look because she has that really long nose.
I'm just trying to figure out how your nose is
so big that it touches the ceiling. If it's a
decent sized house, it's a good thing. She's magic.

Speaker 3 (02:31:35):
She doesn't have to abide by the laws of physics.

Speaker 1 (02:31:37):
Oh yeah, I guess there is that here. I am
trying to rationalize it. Oh yauch, Yeah, inside joke actually
funny part. We used to laugh because my mom always
has her pictures of her like you know, boyfriends and
her prom or her you know, eighth grade dance, and
she always dated these dudes with these like huge snazzes.
My dad doesn't have a big nose, neither is my stepdad,

(02:31:59):
but these guys had like huge honkers. And so that's
our ongoing joke, is that my mom likes dudes with
big noses. But anyway, maybe they're related to Bobby Yoga. Yeah. Right,
But if the house on hinged, oh my gosh, if
the house on hin haunches and extra large snabs was
not weird enough, this w worrisome wretch doesn't even get

(02:32:20):
around on our own two legs, aha walks so well.
Not only that, but common legend describes her obedient abode
again as the gateway of the afterlife, so upon command,
she can order the living quarters to turn and face
the door, either towards the living or towards the dead.

(02:32:41):
So if it's facing the living, someone can, oh, look
at this house, let me go investigate or stumble in,
and she can on demand turn it. So then when
they walk out, they're screwed you. So kind of I guess,
like when I guess in hell boy is the best
one I could come up with. Where he comes in
and then the door closed, but it opens and he's
like somewhere else, like or something's happening. It's kind of

(02:33:04):
like that. So she could turn it on demand, supposedly,
But she does leave her house, and once she does,
it's said that she zips around by means of mortar
propelled by a pestel. Don't worry, I will go into
what they are, Okay, sounds kind of funny. It sounds
like she's going to bombit people or something. Now, if
you look at photos of her, it looks like she's

(02:33:26):
in a rather large bucket using a stick like an
or like a little paddle is what it looks like.
So essentially, the large bowl and a club like looking
tool is used for crushing, grinding, or mixing things, where
the bowl is the mortar and the pestil is the stick.
So if you see a lot of which craft esque

(02:33:47):
things and they're mixing and they have that weird ceramic
it looks like a rock or stone bowl and they
have this like the random stick and they're mashing stuff
in it, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, Sometimes it's
kind of hard to picture. Yeah, oh wow, Okay, but
you don't know what mossus Jones got it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:34:06):
I did see a couple of places where mentioned that
she could be seen riding a horse or a boar,
And I'm thinking, if she's as big as a house
almost that poor horse, And how the hell is it
on a boar?

Speaker 3 (02:34:19):
a good enough.

Speaker 1 (02:34:26):
that's a big bore, you got there? Yeah. And another
fact I found about Bobby Yaga that was rather interesting
to note was that she's said to be a little
uh top heavy it goes early, Yeah, a little top heavy.

(02:34:48):
And her tatas hang over a rod. Although I'm not
sure what the rod is attached to, but I understand
hanging thing like she.

Speaker 8 (02:35:00):
Just walks around with it under her arms.

Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
Like, well what if it's okay, hold on, let's see here.
What if? Like I said, the bucket that you see
are in is less a mortar but more of like
a portable. Well, we have the the thing, oh my god,
the bucket. When you get the well water at the bottom,
you gotta craick crankeett. Maybe she's just sitting on the

(02:35:22):
edge and they're just gotta hold them up somehow. Truth man,
Oh my god, I'm hit. Oh boy, it's okay. We
had a discussion before we started, just to clarify her usals.
They do say, though, that she was not always an

(02:35:43):
eternal ugly hag. Supposedly, legends says that she had recommended
the less vels veals Fox V E l e s
a prominent god of livestock and Slavic paganism, and she
rerect mended for him to contain the heavenly cattle from
the heaven prav so Navis is the underworld prov is

(02:36:07):
heaven well essentially has guard whatever I love. How none
of my things have a basic religion. So he did
as she suggested. The gods were caloric, and they cursed her.
Yes that means pissed off. Sorry as it just pre
anybody who's like, wait, I probably need to change her word.
When this happened, one of those classy golden boots became

(02:36:30):
a brutal, bony leg and they brand they Oh my god,
they banned her from her beauty, so they turn her
leg into bone and made her ugly as hell.

Speaker 3 (02:36:43):
So they had magic to make her magic.

Speaker 1 (02:36:45):
And then they don't like that she has magic. So
the problem was that she had convinced the god of
the livestock to withhold the cattle from the rest of
the gods, and they didn't like that she talked him
into it. Hmm. Probably, judging by the fact that she
now doesn't have beauty, was probably rather involved in that

(02:37:06):
category of persuasion. Yes, just the thought. Now, speaking of legs,
I believe she's this sad with one leg in the
land and one leg in the realm of the underworld. Ah,
making her possibly one of the oldest accounts of living
dead girl just a zombie. Oh it says I want

(02:37:30):
to talk. Sorry, okay, Hi, Hello, hello, Hi, okay. Gave
him the opportunity, they didn't take it. Oh that is
so funny. I just paused and I read it. Literally,
player now disclaim her. Here is a bit gruesome, and
it involves children. To skip ahead. If you can't handle it,

(02:37:50):
I literally put insert long pause, which we just did.
All right, okay, if you're back, We're talking about children
and it gets grew like brutal, So okay, I don't
like this party there. One of the most infamous ideologies
of Bobby Yaga is her creepy cuisine. She is known

(02:38:13):
for eating people, especially children, so she eats both her
first children. But there's actually a reason for this concept
coming into the life of the lore surrounding her. And
I couldn't. I couldn't find a way to rewrite it
and do it as much justice. So there's a linko.
It's gonna be down here for my description, and all
my sources are gonna be there, and there's a site,

(02:38:33):
an article on medium dot com, and I'm just gonna
quote it. I'm probably gonna mispronounced shit, but I'm gonna
quote it the best I can, all right. So it
says the ritual of oh my gosh, para pekani or
para peck was done exclusively on a stove called petchka.

(02:38:58):
Happy about that one an infirm or sick child was
washed with spring water, wrapped in dough, and put into
a warm, clean oven which had previously been heated with herbs.
The child was baked aka reborn, so they would pass
the quote unquote sickness to the dough and become healthy.

(02:39:20):
It was best cure for illnesses in the northern climate.
This right could be done only by a knowledgeable woman,
the priestess healer, because only she knew the special dough
recipe and could perform the ritual. None of that says
it was fake.

Speaker 3 (02:39:37):

Speaker 1 (02:39:43):
like they're marinate in the oven. I guess the innocent, Yes,
they were innocent, and they're freaking tacking them in the oven.
their babies in ovens, wrapped in dough they were making
like pizza rolls.

Speaker 3 (02:40:04):
Essentially, Yeah, people did wild stuff trying to get in
what they thought was curses.

Speaker 1 (02:40:10):
mean essentially you're still a child. I mean in this
in this day and age, you got what six months
before you're a full fledged adult. But before that you'd

(02:40:31):
have already been married with two kids or four or whatever.
So I'm guessing that I know he is sweet, it
goes sweet. I'm guessing that it's more maybe eight and under.
I feel like back then, I mean, because you were
basically getting married off if you were an adult by
the time you were eleven, So I would guess probably

(02:40:53):
closer to that. But still, can you imagine wrapping a
tok one? How do you get to toddler to stay
wrapped in dough? Sensible? Thank you? Yeah? Exactly how they
doing that? At least it's agreeing with me? Uh, and
then to I mean, I guess if it's really sick,
it wouldn't fight you, right.

Speaker 3 (02:41:11):
our Superstitious episode. So not the one that had come
you know, back when Bobby Aga was probably yeah, you
know super popular, is you had a really high chance
of that child not surviving past their seventh birthday.

Speaker 10 (02:41:32):

Speaker 3 (02:41:34):
seven became like a lucky number because.

Speaker 1 (02:41:42):
Actually makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (02:41:43):
Yeah, once that child hits seven, you're like, oh, we're
out of the woods. Like he's gonna survive, like there's
a good chance that it will make it.

Speaker 1 (02:41:50):
was some kind of religious thing because like he you know,
seven days to create whatever. I thought it was a
religion thing. Not huh. Yeah, I like that. That's a
that's a good point because I was thinking. I was
under the impression that it wasn't necessarily that the kids
were dying. I mean, the kids were dying, but it
was more at birth situation. But I knew that the

(02:42:12):
lifespan of adults was substantially lower. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (02:42:18):
Yeah, even children, like it took a long time for

Speaker 1 (02:42:25):
And that's the thing too, is it. I really like that.
So I'm still said, I'm like that is that is good?
I'm gonna have to remember that. Maybe that's right. I
like that. We're going with it.

Speaker 3 (02:42:32):
It's right, you'll like that.

Speaker 1 (02:42:34):
You'll like that episode? Then, yes, well definitely, because like
I said, I was listening to last week's or this
when when do you release Saturday? Okay? So this, yeah,
but let's still be last week. So this week is
at the end of the week. The latest was the
latest episode. But what thing I thought was interesting was
not all of the children were eaten by Bobby Yaga,

(02:42:57):
Like that's not even it's not. Oh, every kid's gonna
go in there and get eaten. According to some of
the lore, visiting Bobby Yaga was symbolic of an initiation
into adulthood for many children. Oh my gosh, look at
that segue. That landed nicely and I didn't mean to.
So essentially, they would travel to Bobby Yaga's hut and
pass a test to officially complete the right of passage.

(02:43:20):
So I don't know what the test was for the children,
but there's a test fire pop quiz. How do you
play with fire? Or how not? The wait, would you
play or not play with fire? We'll get into what
because it's not just children, so even adults had to

(02:43:41):
pass a test, which basically consisted of doing a bunch
of chores. This is what I found. It was literally
like cut the wood off the floor? Is this help?
They would help, yes, thank you. And I just thought
that was funny because they did the chores, deemed themselves
worthy when they showed up, and either they wanted to
earn a cure or rescue from danger or death of
a loved one, so they usually wouldn't show up on

(02:44:03):
behalf of themselves. It would be you know, oh my
fiance is sick and I need a cure, or oh,
my grandpa's well, okay, my uncle, your grandpa's like he's
probably gonna die.

Speaker 3 (02:44:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:44:18):
But if it's like my mom or my brother or something,
you would go you had to I guess do chores mainly,
I know, right, but okay, you can you can relate
to this. Why do you ever have, like, you know,
parents that are like, hey, do the dishes, and you're like, hey,
this isn't clean. Do it again?

Speaker 4 (02:44:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:44:38):
But maybe that's it is. If you if you got
the do it again thing, you failed, No cure for
no cure for you. I'm burning the hell. It's a
right it right the first time? Mm hmm. You can't
do it right the first time. Don't do it. We're

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there's graveyard Okay, this is all about graveyards. But they
do say that Bobby Yaga is also portrayed as a
motherly figure. Not just an old hag, but not necessarily
in the way you would imagine. It's not like she's,
you know, burping babies and doing all of that. It's
said that she burst three dragons, one of which had

(02:45:20):
seven throats. I will avoid all of the bad jokes
literally wrote that in there. I will avoid a bunch
of jokes. Remind myself, don't make the jokes. But I
don't know why they didn't just say, oh, I just
had this awful, oh awful picture. It doesn't say seven heads.
It's just a seven throat, like three throats in one head. Yeah,
I was just thinking of that.

Speaker 3 (02:45:40):
And then that doesn't break up evenly.

Speaker 1 (02:45:44):
So one of them has they all, well, well there's
three dragons. One of them has seven throats, so maybe
the other ones just have one. I don't know either way.
I wouldn't want to come toe to toe with this thing,
whatever it is. And this thing is like, chat it up.

(02:46:06):
It's death. I don't know what whose death it's talking about.
But uh, whoo, okay, the dragons that were talking about
were slain by a quote unquote hero, and she essentially
took action to get revenge. It says that she swiftly
stalked the offender with a gaping mouth, said to cover
from the heaven to the earth as a pig. They

(02:46:31):
like their pigs. Huh, they do like their pigs. I
should have looked up the significance and symbolism of a
pig in Slavic culture. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:46:40):
eat pretty much anything you give them.

Speaker 1 (02:46:47):
understand why she was riding the boer.

Speaker 9 (02:46:54):

Speaker 1 (02:46:59):
But yeah, so that I thought was interesting. But that's
kind of what I have as a basis for Bobby Yaga.
So I kind of wanted to know what your guys'
thoughts were. Would you have followed Bobbyaga into the woods
or would you have ran for the Chicken lib mobile home.

Speaker 4 (02:47:16):
I'm gonna be honest, if it seemed like a woman
that needed help, I probably would have. But I feel
like if there was too many like eerie or just
red flags happening, I feel like I would turn back.

Speaker 1 (02:47:32):
A woman in a giant bucket with a stick, because
I guess if she was, because that's at ly since
she got around right, she was in like a bucket,
and I'm guessing it floated. I would be a lot
of effort for an old lady. Yeah, yeah, well they did. Okay,
actually I did. I didn't put this in here, but
I remember seeing a thing where uh so she traveled

(02:47:53):
again border pestle, and she had a broom that she
would sweep up her tracks behind her. So it must
have been dragging the ground. That's a lot of work
up my arms. Yeah, oh that's interesting. That's mine. They're fighting,
so okay, so wyat would have potentially followed her into

(02:48:14):
the woods. Okay, here's a better question. Why if she
was there, you would have I feel like you would
have been like, here, come with me, I'll get you
something to eat, we'll get you taken care of, get
you some to drink and all that. But if she
said no, you need to come with me, would you
have followed her?

Speaker 4 (02:48:33):
No, there we go.

Speaker 1 (02:48:36):
But then again, back then there was no such spaces run.
They would run. There's no stranger danger essentially, and you
were taught very much so elders were very important to
all of these places. I mean every I mean, I

(02:48:57):
So I feel like she's got that going now. Granted
bony leg right Otherwise, girl, I can't help you. Well, America,

(02:49:24):
do you think you'd follow Baba Yaga? No, No, I
don't trust ass would I know that? I would. I'd
be like, oh, okay, here, let me help you, Like
if oh, your house is just right down here here,
let me help you. Because I'm an idiot, I would
do it. I would be Baba Yaga meat and a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (02:49:44):
I don't trust anything. I would not know what.

Speaker 1 (02:49:47):
Yeah. So my thing too is if you go into
the house through the door facing the human side and
she flips it and you come out on the underworld side,
do you notice you're in the underworld side or is
this like an upside down situation from Stranger Things? And

(02:50:09):
is there something particular you have to do besides turn
around and try to gi visitor to turn the house
around so that you can get back. Maybe, I mean,
is that part of the test.

Speaker 3 (02:50:26):
I mean I feel like I would. I would just
I wouldn't walk through the.

Speaker 1 (02:50:29):
Door because if you if you could tell that it
was different, but it wouldn't look any different.

Speaker 3 (02:50:35):
That's what I'm saying, Like if you didn't realize until
it was too late, But if you open that door
and and you know that it looks like an eclipse, right,
you know how it's like darker and a situation, i'd pause.

Speaker 1 (02:50:48):
Yeah, I'm just picturing that it literally looks again she's magic.
It probably looks just like a little old lady's house
hut whatever. And you know, I mean I've gone into
old b both houses that I that I didn't know
that sounds really bad, like I borrowed something from somebody
or I really like I was like, hey, here's your dog,
Like your dog got out and they're like okay, I

(02:51:09):
just kind of I'm like, uh, buy still went in.
I was kind of unhesitant. You know, it's got that
old person spell. But I was like, here's your dog.
You know, but if you cross the threshold and the
door like closes automatically. Can you imagine the sheer panic?

Speaker 3 (02:51:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:51:26):
I ended up following the yaga, but yeah, it'd be sketchy.

Speaker 1 (02:51:34):
Yeah, And I'm still I am one hundred percent on
board with the chicken legs and not the horse of
the boar. What do you think why chicken legs? I
don't know, nobody likes them.

Speaker 4 (02:51:48):
Isn't like chicken legs used in some sort of voodoo rituals.

Speaker 1 (02:51:53):
I knew exactly where you're going with that brain. It
was like I heard you say it, we have another
train coming. I hear the train of coming. It's coming
around the band. Sorry, I've been a jukebox all day
to day, but that is a good point. It's the
only thing that I would say I don't know about
is the voodoo. Wasn't that primarily like Africa South America type,

(02:52:21):
not necessarily Slavic area.

Speaker 3 (02:52:25):
I think Santa Ria is Southern America, not South America
like southern of the United States, like Caro.

Speaker 1 (02:52:32):
I'm gonna bot this out, But where do you think
they came from? Well?

Speaker 11 (02:52:35):
I know, I know, I'm gonna take this out, But
I know, I know that, like that's where that's where
I hear.

Speaker 1 (02:52:41):
A lot of That's where you can find it in
New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (02:52:44):
Yeah, like that's where you can find it now.

Speaker 1 (02:52:47):
Yeah, And but it might be I mean, I'm just
why chicken legs? Is it because they're fast? Are they?

Speaker 3 (02:52:57):
I mean? Yeah, I guess chickens canna be fast.

Speaker 1 (02:52:58):
Chickens are fast and they do survive when you cut
their head off.

Speaker 3 (02:53:02):
I guess what else?

Speaker 1 (02:53:03):
Will she have picked? A wolf with four legs?

Speaker 3 (02:53:08):
A wolf that's been cool?

Speaker 1 (02:53:09):
Oh yeah, that'd be pretty that'd have been badass.

Speaker 3 (02:53:14):

Speaker 1 (02:53:16):
don't know what the significance is. Maybe it's because maybe
it's because chicken feet are tough and they have the
to get around and train. Maybe they're not because it
might be harder for say, a wolf to climb a mountain.

(02:53:37):
M I guess never seen it, but I know billy
goats are like that, or mountain goats. Yeah, they got
they do. They have the special hoofs that let them
do that. And I'm like, how are you not even
falling over? I like fainting goats though they're my favorite.
My son's friend has fainting goats, So they go out

(02:53:57):
there and scare them for fun. I mean, come on, who.

Speaker 7 (02:54:01):

Speaker 1 (02:54:04):
than likely I'd be the only idiot to follow Bobby
Yaug into her house. We talked about the chicken legs.
What are you guys' thoughts on or anything else stand
out to you?

Speaker 4 (02:54:15):

Speaker 1 (02:54:18):

Speaker 4 (02:54:24):
So was that like covering the chicken leg.

Speaker 1 (02:54:26):
No, so she herself is wearing originally says that she
was wearing two boots. So she was a goddess wearing
two boots. I guess that maybe there's a gold goddess
kind of factor there. Maybe again that she had magical stuff.
Maybe her boots were magical, because gold, I feel like,
doesn't show up anywhere else in the story of the lore.
So I feel like maybe there's a significance of gold
being on her feet covering that bone leg well, because

(02:54:51):
she wore both the boots and then one of the
boots and the leg turned into bone, so that that
boot's gone. Oh so oh man, did you have like
a gamp you know, because the boot heel on it.
That is a good point, you know. I feel like
there should be more symbolism that I didn't see in there.
There's probably something somewhere, but I do notice a lot

(02:55:14):
of the folklore in this area does not whereas if
you are in the Mayan, Aztec, Egyptian, all of those areas,
it is there's a lot of gold in those spaces.
But here, I feel like you don't really hear a
lot about really precious metals at all. Maybe silver. They
hate iron. Yeah, well I don't know if she does,

(02:55:34):
but most fade does.

Speaker 3 (02:55:37):
Did any of it say anything about how to to
ward her off or what to do if you did
encounter her? Nope, it just deer.

Speaker 1 (02:55:45):
Yeah, you're just up shit creek, I guess. But I
think it was a I mean, essentially it was stay
out of the woods. If you stay out of the
woods and because it never I never saw where it
says that she comes out of the woods. He's pretty
usually it's what I've gathered in. What I'm picturing is
she's pretty deep. So you're probably lost in the woods.

Speaker 3 (02:56:06):

Speaker 4 (02:56:08):
Yeah, I'd be screwed. I go in the woods all
the time.

Speaker 1 (02:56:12):
Do you ever see anything weird in the woods that
wasn't of your making? So I had my son on
here and he hunts all the time, and he's seen
multiple things in the woods like creepy af kind of shit,

(02:56:35):
like Kryptons are like weird. So he saw a hat man. Really, yeah,
he was in there, so he actually it's one of
my episodes. He does, like all his stuff that And
one of them looked like a demon with two puck wedgies.
He didn't know what they were. He was just explaining
it to me what he was seeing, and it sounds
like two puck wedgies that summoned something. And when they
realized that he saw them, this thing goodbye, I guess goodbye.

(02:57:00):
This thing got down and was like crawling like they
were on the They were by a puddle and like it. Well,
he thought it was a puddle and you know the
Lava Lady from Malana when she gets down and she's
like crawling m hm towards her. He said, it was
kind of like that, and then it went down like

(02:57:20):
it disappeared into this puddle. I was like, dude, that
was a freaking portal. That was not it was a
puddle portal.

Speaker 3 (02:57:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:57:30):
entertaining as that. But I was filming a scene film
and we were using fake blood and just kind of
scoping out the woods for a good spot to do
this scene. And my friend goes over and he comes

(02:57:52):
back with a leaf covered in real blood like and
it was like fresh because dripping.

Speaker 1 (02:58:01):
Yeah, well it could have been animal.

Speaker 4 (02:58:03):
It could have been animal.

Speaker 1 (02:58:04):
Was there more than one leaf?

Speaker 3 (02:58:07):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:58:07):
He only brought back one. I don't know if there
was more over there, but there were a bunch of
homeless people that lived throughout those woods, so I don't
know if someone was taking some sort of drug and
wiped it off or something or.

Speaker 1 (02:58:21):
At a bloody are we talking like the leaf?

Speaker 4 (02:58:24):
It was a leaf about like this big. That's a
big leaf, and it was pretty covered like you could
see some of the leaf, but like the blood was
like dripping off of it.

Speaker 1 (02:58:36):
Oh shit, well you get negative two points for not investigating.
Take me there?

Speaker 3 (02:58:45):

Speaker 4 (02:58:46):
I got a video.

Speaker 1 (02:58:48):
Oh okay, is it? By the way, your YouTube channel?
What do you do on your YouTube channel?

Speaker 4 (02:58:54):

Speaker 1 (02:59:03):
How does that? Uh? How you do on that?

Speaker 4 (02:59:06):
I think I do pretty well. Some things just hit
the algorithm just right and it gets me more views, subscribers,
things like that, I've been alive for over two years.

Speaker 1 (02:59:18):
Now, Oh wow? Do you do them live or do
you just upload recordings?

Speaker 4 (02:59:23):

Speaker 1 (02:59:27):
Okay, see what I'm doing here? I am helping you
out with free advertising, bro, Like, so what do you do?

Speaker 4 (02:59:35):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:59:37):
I wish you knew more about that that leaf, like
where it came from, if there were more, because if
it's covered, there had to have been more.

Speaker 4 (02:59:45):
Yeah. I wish I knew where my friend went, Like
he was like holding it up, and we're all like shocked,
and we thought first it was our fake blood. But
we put the leaf on the ground and poured some
of the fake blood out, and they were not the

(03:00:07):
same consistency. You could tell, yeah, real blood.

Speaker 1 (03:00:11):

Speaker 4 (03:00:13):
It was actually wasn't in the No, it was it
was like four weeks. No, it was. It was May. Yeah,
it was towards the beginning of May.

Speaker 1 (03:00:27):
Well. The reason I was asking is because if something
got shot during the hunting season and it was running
and it stopped, that it could it could drop in
just like a small space, but drop a lot of
blood before it took off again. But that doesn't make
any sense. I mean, I don't know what y'all do
over in your state, but we don't hunt anything substantial
till fall.

Speaker 3 (03:00:46):
I think it was too close to residential areas, yeah, hunting,
So maybe somebody was illegally hunting, true, that's possible, but
it was it's it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (03:00:55):
It was just wounded. I mean, it is. It is
the woods, right, Yeah, but that is very weird to
have that much And the fact that it was dripping
means that it wasn't on there very long otherwise, yeah hmm.
And he didn't see anything running or nothing. No interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:01:14):
Later that day on the on a filming day, I
did hear a voice in the woods, but like I said,
there's homeless people, so I just it was it literally
just hey. It just sounded like someone saying hey.

Speaker 1 (03:01:32):
Was it like a haller like a hey or was
it more like a hey?

Speaker 4 (03:01:36):
It was more like a haller okay, like like someone
saw us and was like saying hey, But we didn't
see anyone, So weird.

Speaker 1 (03:01:44):
you guys, I mean they would have probably done it again, right, yeah,
or tried to engage. Interesting. That is weird. Oh, that
is weird. I hope you guys didn't like, yeah, I
hope you wash your hands. You don't get some kind
of disease from Yeah we did, Okay, Okay. I was like, oh, you.

Speaker 4 (03:02:07):
Don't know what he was holding it by the stem
so like there's no blood on the stem hm hm,
wash hands.

Speaker 1 (03:02:15):
Would have got it off, but it's okay, we'll go
with it. Male brain, it mustn't water on it, out
got the plague. Sorry, I gotta give you hell. What
are you okay? You got anything weird that that's happened
to you?

Speaker 3 (03:02:39):
Oh? So I used to work overnight shifts. Oh, I'm
getting ready to start those. Yeah, in the emergency department.
Well I did it for ten years. I worked at
a warehouse. So I was on my way to work,
and it must have been like early summer, kind of
right around this time, so it got dark really late.

Speaker 1 (03:02:58):
Yeah, So I'm driving a war.

Speaker 3 (03:03:00):
It's nine o'clock at nine thirty maybe, so, like it's
still kind of right out and we're on this road
that's actually it's not a it's kind of a back
road like it's a cut through, but it's not. It's
not deserted. There's houses, there's there's actually a sion field, yeah,
and then there's a solar panel field right there, and
then there's a main highway like right there, so it's

(03:03:22):
not secluded.

Speaker 1 (03:03:24):
Yeah, it's like a place over here, Like I know
you're not from here. No.

Speaker 3 (03:03:29):
So there's there's a couple of cars stopped in front
of me, and I'm I'm already exhausted because my daughter
was young and I'm I was tired, so I'm just like,
can we get moving already? And then I see the
guy in a big black truck. He gets out of
his car and he's looking in front of the in
front of his vehicle, and then he looks back at

(03:03:50):
us and like, this hairy thing just walks across the
road on two legs, just like walks across the road.
Super hairy is like a skinny sass watch type thing.
It was the insane and like, thinking back, I can't
even like was it real? But it had to have
been because the way that this guy reacted, like he

(03:04:12):
took the time to put his vehicle in park and
look back at us, like are we seeing the same
thing right now?

Speaker 1 (03:04:18):
I can't believe this guy got out of the damn truck, right.
Was I a big guy?

Speaker 3 (03:04:25):
good size I mean, but didn't get a good view
of it since it because it was obviously on the
other side of the truck, so you know, it walked
across the road from our side to the opposite side
into the brush.

Speaker 1 (03:04:40):
How tall would you say that? It probably was?

Speaker 3 (03:04:42):
Probably like six or seven feet.

Speaker 1 (03:04:44):
Okay, so it'd be like a baby squatch.

Speaker 3 (03:04:46):
Yeah, like it was gangly.

Speaker 1 (03:04:48):
Like yeah, maybe it's just like that awkward teenage. It
was like a tween.

Speaker 3 (03:04:51):
itself yet.

Speaker 1 (03:04:54):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of teenage. Was it
going fast or was it just like no, you weren't
even there. It just it didn't acknowledge you guys at all.

Speaker 3 (03:05:04):

Speaker 7 (03:05:08):
That is bizarre.

Speaker 3 (03:05:09):

Speaker 1 (03:05:13):

Speaker 3 (03:05:17):
I wish I hadn't been so exhausted to like, so
I could have fully, you know, grabbed my phone, took
a video, sat thing.

Speaker 1 (03:05:26):
But I'm just telling as going. Yeah, well, I mean
because he probably saw it off the road because he
was in front. I mean I guess it was daylight out. Yeah,
it wasn't like it was dark. No, it was an
ignormative thing because I mean, you didn't notice it till
across the street, but because you were behind the truck,
the truck guy probably saw it coming and that's why

(03:05:49):
why he stopped. Was like, what the hell is happening
or like this thing is it stopping?

Speaker 3 (03:05:54):
No, And it just walked across like it belonged there
and we didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:05:59):
On their side, was I know, you had the solar
panels on one side, that's pretty flat.

Speaker 3 (03:06:03):
are now.

Speaker 1 (03:06:07):
Was the whole area just kind of flat? Yeah, it's
kind of marshy.

Speaker 3 (03:06:11):
Oh actually yeah, there's like a little creek that's right
there north.

Speaker 1 (03:06:14):
To be Skunkape.

Speaker 3 (03:06:17):
like there, So I don't even know where it could
have gone because if it kept going in that direction,
right there, which is a main highway. Well, so it
would have had to have crossed the main highway. There's
nowhere else for it to go other than somebody's backyard.

Speaker 1 (03:06:39):
True like it, but I mean I can see it
crossing the highway. I mean it obviously was ballsy.

Speaker 3 (03:06:44):
I know, like it it didn't care that we we
existed like it was that unless it's hope fell through
a dimension and it just like warped away after.

Speaker 1 (03:06:54):
across the street. Did you guys watch it leave?

Speaker 3 (03:06:59):
see it anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:07:02):
Oh okay, so that's why I was wondering. I didn't if
it was like all open and it just kind of
like vanished, or if but it went into actual brush.
So maybe it was like, oh shit at casual, at
casual act casual, no one sees a thing. All right,
I just don't mind me. I'm just gonna duck over
here behind these bushes, like my bad.

Speaker 3 (03:07:20):
But I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:07:23):
Usually they at least turn and acknowledge. No, that is
so weird.

Speaker 3 (03:07:30):
truck and I couldn't see it, Maybe it did do that.

Speaker 1 (03:07:39):
Yeah, I just but after it walked to.

Speaker 3 (03:07:43):
Like the middle of the road where I could see it.

Speaker 1 (03:07:46):
That is not crazy.

Speaker 3 (03:07:47):
It was is wild as a very shit.

Speaker 1 (03:07:49):
I have like a normal like stride, like a person
humanesque hid stride. Yeah, I had like the little strut. Okay, well,
because sometimes they say that they have kind of like
a juggernaut type movement where they're kind of like sometimes
they're like kind of hunch, you know, m I didn't
know if it was like, had good posture. I guess
you could say.

Speaker 3 (03:08:09):
I mean regular posture.

Speaker 1 (03:08:11):
Okay, it wasn't free and you could tell that it
was Harry all over. I mean again, reminder, guys, this
is not happening at night. It's not like, oh, I'm
catching a glimpse of this thing in my headlights. It
is light outside and she sees this. There is no
ifs Ann's butts. The guy clearly wasn't filming. I mean

(03:08:31):
it's like he had a camera where they were like
filming a stunt or something. I mean that before.

Speaker 3 (03:08:38):

Speaker 1 (03:08:45):

Speaker 3 (03:08:51):
of animals.

Speaker 1 (03:08:54):
Man, Harry Man and the Bloody Leaf. Yeah, yeah, I
wonder they were close to the same area. No, no,
but if you have some there, maybe it was just
something got injured. Yeah, maybe he would have seen something.
I'm still on the Bloody Leaf too, I'm like, what

(03:09:16):
the fuck you would have seen something, because I think
that's super fresh for it to be dripping.

Speaker 4 (03:09:23):
I wish my friend went in the woods, yeah, like,
because then we all could have went over.

Speaker 1 (03:09:30):

Speaker 4 (03:09:32):
It's not we didn't even like they didn't even need to.

Speaker 1 (03:09:35):
Ask, Yeah, boy, what kind of film?

Speaker 4 (03:09:41):
What?

Speaker 1 (03:09:41):
What?

Speaker 3 (03:09:42):
Who?

Speaker 1 (03:09:42):

Speaker 4 (03:09:45):
It's a thriller movie.

Speaker 1 (03:09:49):
I didn't go look for the leaf, all right?

Speaker 3 (03:09:52):
Oh my, you know what this opportunity?

Speaker 1 (03:09:57):
Oh goodness, on that report card, you fail, Oh my gosh,
just because it always just like changed colors. I was
read for a second. Now it just happened a couple
of times. Yeah, usually some something passes over my camera,
so I have to do one of these numbers and
like redo it.

Speaker 7 (03:10:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (03:10:15):
So that's interesting that we got a bunch of kids
in the woods that see a bloody leaf filming a
horror film and don't investigate. I don't know, maybe that
would be more was not to investigate. I was just
gonna say that might be maybe there's me going, man,
you can get some real good footage for your real Well,

(03:10:35):
I guess we can go ahead and wrap this up.
So again, everybody that's Bobby Yaga, and we have Erica
and Wyatt. So uh, just so you guys know when
this comes out, I think it's gonna be two weeks
from now. I'm gonna put all your guys's links down
below so everybody out there can go down they click
on it, like subscribe, share, only five star reviews, that's

(03:10:58):
the rule. Only the best for my people, So go
check them out. Don't forget. I know I've got the website.
You can find all that down there. My merch is
down there. Did you guys have anything before we round
it out? No?

Speaker 4 (03:11:13):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (03:11:14):
All right, well, and then untill next time, everybody see
yea bye

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