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July 30, 2025 • 49 mins
In a lively and candid conversation, Natty and guest Tony explore various ghost stories and personal supernatural encounters. They discuss experiences ranging from aggressive ghostly interactions to familial spirits making their presence known, all intertwined with humorous anecdotes. The pair also touch on mental health struggles and the therapeutic role of the paranormal community. The highlight includes an intriguing ghost moose tale from 1908 North Dakota and a flapper spirit from 1922 New York, spicing up their entertaining and poignant discussion.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you wearing pants today?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
No? I never wear pants.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
I I have.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
A dress on. Does that count? Well? I have a nightgown.
I guess it's I think it's supposed to be a dress,
but I wear it as a nightout. Yeah, we pod
with no pants. I'm not joking around. Man, we never
wear pants. If I'm wearing pants, there's usually a problem.
You pick your poison. Whichever one you don't pick, I'm
gonna be doing with Melissa later tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Uh, you got your second one, you do it?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah? And I got the new job, and then I
hit the by poor depression stage, so then I don't
feel like doing anything. God, I've got by poor depression.
It was tell me about it, Okay, so apparently it's
watching me. It's really gonna be awesome. But I swear
I worked on these notes for like two days and
I got two paragraphs done. It's just like I lost all, like,

(00:44):
all steam, all motivation. It's just been a shit show,
which is why we very much advocate for mental health.
So those are my options. I figured i'd give you
a dealer's choice.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm thinking we should go with the ghosts because I've
got a couple for you.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
See that from experience positively. Okay, so they agree, I
guess I could introduce you first. Welcome back everyone. I
am super excited. Okay, we have been planning this for
how long have we been planning this?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
At least three four months?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, So as most of you hear me talk about
all the time about the Patreon and all of that. Okay,
apparently it thinks that we're funny. We are having our
very first patron on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
This is Tony Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Are we popping your podcast, Cherry? We are popping all
patron cherries right now? Are the very first patron to
be on. I'm super excited. So this is you can
prove I am not joking at a certain tier. You
really can be on the show with me.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
For I don't know if I've used it on the
actual show, I don't know. But it's the earliest or
the closest one to our time is let me look
nineteen thirty eight, and that is the closest to our
time that it goes.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Well least it's way before my time, right I hope.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
So otherwise, you look really good for your age. If
you're like two hundred years old or however old that is.
I'm not going to do the math right now. My
brain's not functioning. Oh you know what, Tony, we are
going to do this just like everybody else. Who are you?
What got you into spooky stuff? Tragedy? It says, tragedy,
you got you into spooky stuff. I don't know if
that's true, but it's chiming in.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
It's said tragedy.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He goes, and I was like, oh, okay, maybe that's it,
and he goes, you are funny.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
My name's Tony BRATCHI. Oh, like I said, I'm one
of the I get to pop this cherry. So I'm
fucking super excited. We've been Naddy said. Like Natty said,
we've been trying to get this to go for life
goes life, and health goes health then all that stuff.
I'm thirteen years sober. You know we'recovering alcoholic. Yeah, so

(03:06):
that's why I drink it up. Take a shot. You
can have one for me?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah I would, but all I have, like I said,
is paint inner vodka, and I don't want to shoot that,
especially because all I have to drink is tea and milk.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, so it's funny, it said tragedy because one of
the stories we're going to talk about later when I'm
gonna bring it up, I lost my grandmother when I
was eleven to breast cancer. Oh and and she's come
back many times to check on me. And I've got
a funny story that we're going to talk about a
little bit later after we get through these little ghost

(03:39):
stories about a sombrero in a Mexican restaurant. Yeah, but
I'm being a fan a long time. I get the
fanboy out, I get to actually sit and talk to
you now.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think I'm like all time. I'm excited. Everyone was
like I love my listeners.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Like, oh yeah, we love you, daddy. Oh thanks.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
So spread the worse spread wide. I tell everybody I
want to be podcast. Herpes just spread me around. I
need to come up with a better one besides herpes.
I feel like that's probably not good. Chicken pox probably
isn't much better. Neither is the plague. I did have
a nightmare once that everything I touched rotted and I
was literally the embodiment of petulance. You ready to crack

(04:22):
into this. It's kind of dark in here, So I'm
gonna stumble. I'm gonna mispronounce things because this is also
from nineteen oh eight. Oh, the language is a little different. Yeah,
So this one I had to pick it. It was
too funny. The title is the Ghost Moose.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, so it's from.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Hope Pioneer, February thirteenth of nineteen oh eight in North Dakota.
So this one says remarkable stories of spirit animal told
by guides, all sorts of disturbances caused by his antics.
So I had to pick it because anytime you hear
ghost moose, you got to did you hear? This has
been a while back, so I can't remember when you started.

(05:07):
I did weird laws in the US, and I think
I went, uh, let's see he I think I went
to Alabama to maybe Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay, I didn't make it far.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But we were talking about there's a law in I
think it's Alaska where it's illegal to drop a dead
moose from an airplane or is it a live moose
from an airplane? I think it's a live moose from
an airplane or something. And my thing was is, how
do you know if it's a lie? Like what if

(05:40):
it has a heart attackle the way down?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
But there was like a Do you know Daniel? Yeah, okay,
well I just got Daniel, so I don't know who
that is.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But I've got a cousin that died of cystic by
rosis named Daniel.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh is it that Daniel?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Daniel?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
This is freaky, it's freaky. Maybe it is. We can
hear you if that's who you are. Maybe that's what
it's like. Wait, they can hear me, Like, oh shit,
this is weird o. Whoever Daniel is welcome to the show.
Daniel fit anyway, so says if the stories of the

(06:23):
Guides to the North of Here can be relied upon
a quote unquote ghost mood, is is it large west
of the Oh my gosh, maluncus maluncas m O l
u n k u s Yeah, anyway by river? And
is why is he here? He's recording with me. I

(06:45):
know he's a new face, but it's okay, it's tony, Okay,
I'll have the like, why is he here? Why is
he here?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Whether the spirit of a moose roams the forest or
whether the animal is flesh and blood and dedicated to
the ways of man, it matters little, so long as
he completely terrorized the guides. So someone's taken some real
interesting writing here. The phantom was first seen, so the
report has it by one Sandy Hill, who was in
charge of a party of Massachusetts sportsmen camped beyond the

(07:18):
old Patent Stage Road. The crowd was out one afternoon
when the moose suddenly showed up within range of the
guns of three of the party, and they fired simultaneously. Okay,
so this thing they see a moose and three people
literally did shoot first, asked questions later, same time, capawie,
they all shoot at it.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Hey, it's early nineteen hundred, that's what they need. Now.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
This is what makes me laugh. Okay, so we're talking
about a ghost moose. But it says the moose dropped,
so obviously they hit something. And it was noted that
he looked like his slaves, with mild, tearful eyes. All
was like a poor moose. As there was no time
to dress the animal. It being late in the day,
the carcass was hung on a tree, bled and allowed

(08:01):
to remain overnight. Next morning, the moose was gone, and
his tracks plainly showed that he had walked off.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, bull Winkle said, later, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
The irony of Natasha and boris.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
And a moose.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I did not put that together. Damn, he was really
getting away. I didn't even think about that. So they
shoot it, three people shoot it. It falls to the ground.
They don't have time to dress it, so they bleed
it and hang it on a tree. But it looks
like it walks away. The next morning, just gone.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I got that, said, peace out.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Trying to think of whether or not I mean, a
moose wouldn't carry another moose.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, I mean it's not.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
He would drag it away. I'm trying to think of
anything that would make it to where you would have
moose tracks. We'll keep going thee to we'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
The end.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Wandering, Yes, it's wandering. The following night, the party was
aroused out of the hearty sleep by a deep breathing
at the door of their shanty. I'm a god. The
Worthier are fantastic of the shanty, but they came out
a little that was on point. Okay, So they have

(09:24):
a heavy breathing outside their shanty, which I'm assusing is
like a shed or like a.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Campsite, right, or a little cabin.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, okay, So we're on the same page there with
his throat cut and mournful eyes fixed upon them. So
the very animal they had shot less than forty eight
hours before. Sandy managed to come out of this stupor. Oh,
Sandy's a man and fire his rifle, and again down
came the moose. This time he didn't stay down, still
gazing at them with his awful eyes. He arose and

(09:54):
flitted what's flitted anyway backward into the forest. Daylight Pla
revealed his tracks. Okay, so they shoot the moose, they
bleed it, they hang it up the next morning gonzo yep.
Then they go back to bed and they hear this
weird breathing outside their campsite. To find the throat slit

(10:17):
in the sad eyes of the moose that they just killed.
They shoot it again. It goes down, but gets back
up and goes back in the woods.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Basically Moon walks back into the woods and says later.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's what I was picturing too, It's like doing yeah,
doing the little.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I was like, maybe that's what flitted means. So this
was the last Sandy's party saw the ghosts, and they
were glad of it. But he hadn't taken himself off
the face of the earth by any means. For Bert Peggins,
Oh my god, that name, who was Traver's camp west
of Ashland, received a visit from the critter. By the
critter was in quotes, I don't know if I would

(10:56):
call a moose a critter. I feel like critters more
like a raku were a possum. Baby, Oh, we might
get some activity. Guess whose birthday is coming up?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So baby one's birthday is on Tuesday. Oh so, and
then I also lost the twins at the same time,
so we might we'll see praise, praise. Okay, happy birthday
early according to his story, right exactly, maybe we shod
started singing the Diddy. According to his story, he had

(11:33):
come in from his traps as the moon was rising
and was standing his gun against the cabin when he
felt hot breath on his back and his neck. He
turned around into the nose of the moves with his
throat cut. Oh my goodness, okay, so no, thank you.
He was so startled that he darted within the cabin
and banged. He says. The ghostly intruder picked up his rifle,

(11:54):
or he picked up his rifle. Wait, no, I was right,
he says. The ghostly intruder picked up his rifle with
his teeth, pulled the trigger and discharged it. Ghost moose
picked up the rifle and shot it like how would
you be like pulling with his tongue and.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yep, yep okay.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Then the apparition vanished pegas didn't go over. Didn't get
over the shock for three days. But then again, if
I saw a slit throat moose come into my fuck
fucking cabin, pick up my rifle and shoot it.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
After shot it twice, yeah, he didn't shoot it.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
This is the other people. So the group came and
three of them shot it. Then one person out of
that group shot it again. But then they never saw
it again and they left. And then a little bit
I think they said west of them was this trapper.
It would take me longer than three days to get
over that. Yeah, I'm pretty like the rest of my life,

(13:01):
I'd be questioning all of reality anyway. So weird. So
Arthur Hill was coming in from mud pond when he
almost stepped on the moose lying in a corpse of
fur fur being fi r so fear so far right here. Yeah,

(13:22):
he fired point blank but missed the moose grasped, and
the moose grasped his gun and evaporated. What the fuck
this moose? He hasn't seen either since. But when he
got home, he found moose tracks at his door and

(13:44):
discovered that some animal had been in his house and
made a wreck of the cabin. The door wasn't wide
enough to admit the body of a moose, but there
were no other tracks in the snow. This is just
this is so fucking bizarre. The strangest story is told
by I thought this, said Harry Potter. It's Harry Porter. Okay.

(14:07):
He was out for a moodlight drive and with his
best girl. Wait a minute, there's more than one girl.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oh Peleiah with.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
His best girl when his horse dropped dead from heart disease.
He was five miles from the village and the situation
was embarrassing. He took the horse from the thrills or
thills and was stooping over to remove the harness when
he heard the sound of heavy breathing and turned. There

(14:38):
in the hills stood the phantom moose. This is so good.
Porter says that, without knowing what he did, he harnessed
the animal, climbed back beside his best girl and took
up the reins. Oh my god, he's like on the moose.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Is that he harnessed it to his cart?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
So he just gitched the horse.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I guess because it did so well.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
He must not care. Some people would load that son
of a bitch. I could take it home. Oh wait,
he's embarrassed. Okay, so he was embarrassed, gotcha, and I remember.
So they got to the edge of the village in
record time when the moose stopped and signified that he
wished to be released. So Porter took off the harness
and walked the rest of the way. Porter has never

(15:26):
shot his gun or a gun in his life. I
don't know why that was relevant, but that's that's the
end of it. I'm not understanding the embarrassment stopping because
now you're showing up with an empty cart with no.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Horse and you're walking.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Okay, so this is the story of the moose. Is
this that weird?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah? Like I said, Bullwinkle was taking his way out.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'm just it had a life, man, even after if
it had a life. So it gets shot at clearly,
then he gets shot again by the same group. Then
another person sees it. Actually it didn't. I don't think
it said he shot it right because it scared him
in the cabin and it reached in and got his

(16:16):
gun and shot his gun. Yep, but he didn't actually
shoot it, but it still took it. So then the
other person, Sandy sees it and it takes his gun,
and he evaporates with the gun, never to see the
moves or the gun again. But then the last guy,

(16:39):
it's almost like this thing is volunteering to haul his cart.
It lets him harness it. It goes all the way
up to the edge of the village, and then it's
like peace out, sucker. But apparently it's relevant that he
never shot a gun ever. I don't know why they
put that in there. Yeah, okay, So what would you

(17:00):
do if you're in the woods and you see a
ghost moose? Well, what if you don't know it's a
moose or a ghost moose, it's just a moose.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Have you ever actually seen what a moose can do?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yes, I would, assuming I had a weapon, I would
use it.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Personally, I'd have shot it too.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Now what would you do if you shot it and
it or you looked at it and it evaporated.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, that I'm going who spiked my drink? Well, who
put LSD in my shit?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
What if it picked it up and it accidentally discharged?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, we're talking early thirties safeties worth. You know, it
was easily popped off.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And if it grabbed a hold of it the right way,
because I said it grabbed it with its teeth, which
means that its tongue is rolling around in there somewhere. Yep,
I could see it accidentally firing.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
That doesn't explain, yeah, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It doesn't explain the disappearing one though.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
No, Well, the fact that all of them.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Said they saw with its throat slit yep. But that
being said, you can technically cut something's throat and not
hit enough to kill it. So when they say throat slit,
is it actively bleeding or that first they think they did.

(18:42):
What if they cut it and it was bleeding, but
it wasn't bleeding bad enough to actually die?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, Granted, I'm pretty sure if you shot a moves'd
be pretty piste off. It probably wouldn't just lay there
and let you hang it in a tree.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, or even slip slice its own throat.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, but I'm just saying I can see, because there's
people that get their throat cut and they don't die
because they don't actually hit the arteries. Yeah, if they
try to kill it, it's just like it wakes up,
and it's like, what the hell happened? Like maybe I
need to quit, you know, get off the LSD.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I gotta quit eating them.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let's see here. So I had a
couple more, but I want to get into yours. So
let's just see if I can pick one. Let's see here. Okay, ready,

(19:42):
here we go. Pretty flapper ghosts Harass is a family man.
You can't go wrong with a good flapper man, really wrong, goodness.
I always said, if I was born in those days,
I would so be a flat So I used to

(20:02):
cut my hair like that too, and I loved it,
loved it.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Little pixie cut bob yep.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
But this one's from the New York Herald, April sixth,
nineteen twenty two. Obviously in New York.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, this is so funny.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Spook with bobbed hair and painted eyebrows appears at night
only at mister Snyder's window. Though you tempt her with gifts, okay.
In Millerton, New York, April fifth. There is a lot
of talk going on here about a flapper ghost, which

(20:39):
for some time now has been visiting the home of
Farren Snyder at night and peering into his second story window.
All right, so we've already got a peeper, no, out
of the second story, so we're not on the main floor.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's a floating yes.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
So mister Snyder professes only a nodding acquaintance with the ghost,
but it says that so far he has been able
to see it through the glass. It has bobbed hair
and is addicted to the use of eyebrow pencils and lipstick.
But also it is pretty. It's addicted to eyebrow pencil Like,

(21:19):
how would you know that?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I mean unless they're like real penciled.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
In yeah, and then still.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
H yeah, releast it's pretty, I guess. Mister Snyder is
middle aged, the father of a family, and an employee
of the Central New England Railroad. He takes no stocking
ghosts and has for or has no time for them.
Neither does he take stock in or have time for
flappers in the flesh or just disan flappers aren't we

(21:55):
But the fact remains that almost every night there is
a tapping, as of someone gently tapping on the glass
of the second story window, and then through the glass
he can dimly see the head of a flapper flapping
about without much very visible means of support, as are
shown by flappers in real life. So that we're as

(22:16):
so far we got dancing, not just flapper. It's a
dance and.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Flapper second story flapper.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yes, yes, it's getting high as mofucker. Anyway, we'll get
back to that. Where was I at here? Totally forgot
all right. Every effort was made to solve the mystery,
but to no avail. It has been suggested that perhaps
Mary Ellen has come down from Wow and I'm not

(22:44):
even gonna try come down from somewhere to visit. But
there were no signs of human footsteps on the ground
under the window, and nothing to indicate that the flapper
climbed up a ladder and peeked into mister Snyder's window.
Investigations are being made by all amateur ghost hunters of
the vicinity, and it is these investigations that are causing
the talk. Some of the investigators are very young men,

(23:06):
and they seem to be trying to steal mister Snyder's
ghost rather than solve the mystery, like they want to
take the smoking hot ghost home. Yep, that is like
some miss up ghost to ship there. So two of
them are known to have placed a box of bond
bonds on their windowsilled at night, and lingered hopefully within

(23:31):
their rooms, dressed in their Sunday suits. But no avail.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh my gosh, So what is it? Back in the twenties,
you can get a you can get a flapper for bonbond?
What is that? Yeah? Uh uh, we're back, he.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Goes, Do you want to play in my internet dies?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
But even this did not attract the Flapper ghosts, which
are remains true to the household of mister Snyder. Several
members of Snyder's family have seen the face with its
pert bobbed hair peeking through the window. They have tried
to catch it, but have failed. They have, not, however,
accepted the offer of certain of the young amateur investigators
who volunteer to catch the Flapper ghost or die in

(24:18):
the attempt. The ghost so far has done nothing to
the members of the Snyder family. But look at them,
and that's the end of the article.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think that one was better than the moose one
because that was funny, because let's get a flapper for
a bond. Bond.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, yes, Now I think maybe they're treating it as
back then, which I guess even still today chivalry if
it's not dead. You bring a flower or whatever, and
you ask a girl on a date or whatnot. Usually
you're dressed nicely in that kind of thing. So I

(25:00):
get the concept. My thing is, what are you gonna
do with her? If you catch her? Yeah, you're gonna
go on a date. You know you're gonna die to
be with this ghost woman. I mean, now, she's she's
not ever seen in the house. She's only outside the window.

(25:22):
But you can't No one sees her from outside. You
only see her from inside, out the window.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Wait, suckubiss.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So that's where I was gonna go. But again, they
never see it inside. It never touches him, it never
does anything. So that's my thing is, I was going suckubis,
but it's not actually inside, it's not actually doing anything.
They're not having nightmares, they're not having paralysis. My thing
is is they do say that like mirrors are a portal, right,

(25:54):
so you can see a lot of things from the
other side. Through a mirror, and if there's a reflection
on the window, heart attack. Okay, I would have a
heart attack too. Maybe the reflection is acting it like
a mirror and for whatever reason, maybe well they don't

(26:14):
know the flapper, but maybe for whatever reason, she's there.
It doesn't say that he knew the flapper. It just
says there was a flapper.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
That's really weird.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's funny it's said heart attack. Oh I had one
fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Really yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I used to party a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm the boring person I as he hides. It's inside.
It's not easy. But that is like the what brought
you were recording? Yeah, you guys back, Yes, I know

(27:07):
we're back recording.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Hello. Hello.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
That is like the fifth time it is says he hides.
I don't know who he is, but he's hiding. Okay, Oh,
shut in the shadow. Thank you for elaborating on his hype.
Now there are no shadows. Uh huh huh.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Or like I said earlier, maybe he's talking about me.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Maybe Hello, it has been throwing out some little nuggies
that make sense.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, because I had somebody tell me once that something
is attached that I've had for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I have one too. Yeah, and it looks like a shadow. Yeah,
it's black, like a shadow.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Like I said, I've been over for a while. But
I used to drink heavily. Waking up was a good
enough reason for me to drink. It usued to be
a head chef, so I drank all the time anyways.
But I used to see this little girl or this
girl in my room. Right. I told my wife, Hey,
she goes, Ah, you're just drunk. Don't worry about it.

(28:24):
You're seeing shit. I really thought that. I just I
haven't done hard drugs in a long time, but I thought, damn,
I have some good flashbacks or whatever, you know. So
but one night I was laying in bed, just get home,
get into bed, and I'm going ah. So I roll
over on my side, and all of a sudden, I
felt of something reaching between my legs and grab my

(28:49):
set and I'm going, oh, wife, he wants to get lucky.
I roll over and she's dead asleep. I wake her up,
trying to think she wants get lucky, and she go,
what the fuck are you doing? I go, you just
grab me? She goes, I'm going back to sleep and
she goes uping ghost did it? I'm going, okay, so

(29:12):
I'm getting groped by ghosts. Yeah, and it's funny because
that's about the last time I've seen her. Plus I
got sober or so then. I don't know, maybe it
was just the alcohol.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
But you didn't actually see anything. You just felt it,
like diddling your daly.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Oh yeah, just diddling the dally dude. Just don't go.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Hey, the grouping ghost I like it. Horny haunts.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, the horny chick that wanted to play but then left.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I didn't even finish the job.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
What are these? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Is that the only time? That's the only time that's happened.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that's the only time that one's happened. So, like
I was saying in the beginning, you know, I lost
my grandmother when I was eleven. She the matriarch of
our family, little Mexican lady. Just I get out of line.
She beat me and then protect me from my mom
to get beat because I'm the firstborn grandson, so I
had I could do any I can do anything I wanted. Uh,

(30:16):
get kicked out of cady kids that got my ass beat?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, six years old telling mother Superior to go screw
yourself because I got tired of it slapping me and
the fingers of that ruler.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
So I, yeah, I that's a whole another episode.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh yeah, it was laughing.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Whoever it is laughing?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh yeah, she probably is, but no, she was. She
was one of the best cooks. Yeah, one of the best.
Meet the wife and the kid when she was younger.
We're at this Mexican restaurant and they make good Tomali's
or whatever, and I'm going, okay, so I ordered the Tomali's.
Haven't had a good tomali and while so I ordered
him and I started and I'm going, what Kimberly Kimberly?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, it's Kimberly.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Daniel. If you're there and you're talking about your sister,
I checked on her yesterday, No fucking way. Yeah, they're
my cousins. Yeah, and we had a scare about Kimberly.
So yeah, are you for this is so crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, apparently Daniels, you're hanging out with us. Daniel.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
If you're there, Daniel, go see your sister. Talk to
your sister.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Do you like me?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
If it's Daniel, you know that boy? I missed you
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
That's okay, this happens.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Like I said, this is stuff that like I don't know,
I've not this is the first time you've been on here.
I'm just conto it. I'm just a middle man. But
it happens and it works. But okay, well, good, thank
you for's good.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I hope so. Yeah, I haven't heard from her, but
I hope so. But no, let's get back to my
gram's Maya. Wella, So we're sitting in this restaurant and
it's a trip to typical Mexican restaurant. I got sombreros
everywhere and shit like that. And I tell my wife, hey,
this is better than my grandmother's. And she looked at

(32:35):
me dead square in the eyes and go, you better
take that back, because she knows if I get certain smells,
I smell my grandmother around because she smoked a certain
amount of cigarette, a certain cigarette that had a smell
that I know in her perfume. With that cigarette smell,
I know, So I get it all the time, so
I know she's around me still. But all of a sudden,

(32:58):
one of the sobreros off the top of the thing
blew off and almost hit me in the head, and
my wife goes see about grandma.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Huh yeah, like really hot and so okay.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
All right, yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Just means they're hanging out all around you sweating all
I am picturing? Is this lady just not just throwing
it at wopping the summer?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Just luckily it wasn't a chocolate.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
You can knock the whole bench over something it flipped
the table.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Or hit me in the head with her damn slip.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, yes, yes, God, I've been here with everything known
to man. I'm pretty sure. Oh yeah, that is so funny.
And the best part does it happened right after you
said so. It's like and you're like, I shut up.
If I were you, It's like it was agreed. It
was like, hell yeah, this is positively that's so funny.

(34:12):
So since then, have you knocked your grandma's cooking?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, had a boy out a boy beat. Oh my gosh,
you cannot beat grandma's cooking. Man, I don't care who
you are. Pretty much, grandma's always make the best food.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And I was blessed with two grandmothers that did that.
So my mom and my dad's moms could cook.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah. My grandma she all and she would feed you
till you were gonna pop. Yeah, and it is. What's
the date today? July twenty seven, twenty twenty five. Whoever
was want to know what the date was?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Okay, so it was, but it was what it was describing.
H They refer to a certain person that I know
as a twin flame, and they always have so it's
an ongoing thing. So I guess that's the case. We

(35:23):
should check my phone because sometimes that sometimes it'll happen
where it'll say that and then I get a message
like right afterwards. I don't know, but my back hurts.
Can we stop?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
No, we're good. Like it literally just felt like something
like poked me in the back like it was hot.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Okay, they're behind you. Play with the catballs?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, come on, so you got any more of us?
I was flying sombreros, groping, gripping girls. We I guess
we can't really say it's a a girl or a guy,
so grouping ghost.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, it's a groping ghost.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Console like a food okay, consoles and food, Oh my god, food,
you're a chef?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, okay, so oh oh, I literally know this is great.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh damn. All right, So it was actually one I
was gonna tell you to look into as a story. Okay,
it's a place in California. It's in cool California. It's
it was called the Sierra Nevada House. It's like from
like the eighteen hundreds. This house was, right. It used
to be a hotel on the gold train. They were

(36:39):
getting gold and the original owner and his daughter died
in the first fire. Oh is it burnt? This place
is burnt down three times.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, it's not very lucky.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
No, it's not. So they turned it into a hotel
and restaurant. So I started working as a just as
a little lion cook. I was working there and my
first night, the guy I was getting trained by goes,
all right, so he goes, do you get spooked? I
go know why he goes because the ghosts like to

(37:14):
play with the cooks. That's it, all right, whatever, that's cool.
It's not like I haven't seen demons in that ship
since I was little anyway, So cool. So I'm cleaning up.
I turned everything off on.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
They why why, I don't know why?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, So I clean everything off. I'm in the back.
I'm washing some dishes real quick, and I come back
out and every flame on the stove is full blown.
What yes, every flame on it full blown. I turn
them back off, go back to doing what I was doing.

(37:52):
Come back out all again, all the fun, all the
flames back on, all right. I turn it back off,
and I emptied out and I go home. I come
back the next night and he goes, how was your
first night? Closing? I said, dude, what's what the likes
to play with fires? He goes, oh, you met the

(38:13):
little girl because the girl likes to play in the kitchen. Yeah.
So looking at it's called the Sierra Nevada House, and
there's some a lot of trippy stuff that went on
in that place for the many years it was up.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
You have to send it to me so I don't forget, Okay,
I will. Yeah, if she had anything to do with
the fires, that is that was speculated. Do they know
how the fire started?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, I'm close.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
How close?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
How close are you besides making me lightheaded? I can
tell your clothes if that's the case, because something's like,
oh they made nasus, it's great.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, they're trying to use your energy and.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
When you were closing in the stove turned ont s
already get back to that. Was anybody in the building
with you?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
No, I was the only one in the building because
I was closing up. Mm yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
So there really is absolutely no reason that.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Those should have been turned on full blast.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, m m.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, that's creepy as hell. Did it happen a lot
or just that one time?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
No, just little things after that. It's just you know,
things come up missing and then they come then you'd
find them later. Yeah, random ass spots.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been that. I'm always like, come on,
I've told them. I'm like, if you do not do this,
it's like I will say your ass out of here,
put it back, and then I leave the room and
come back and it's like sitting on my desk like,
oh sorry, So these balls. I had to move my
trash can because I kept coming up my balls were missing,
and I couldn't figure out that's funny. My balls were
missing it. I couldn't find him and they were in

(40:02):
the trash can. So I would put the trash can
used to be behind me back here, and this ball
would always like it would fall off into the trash can.
I kept putting it up and it falling that perfume.
I don't think I have any on today. Nope, sure don't.

(40:27):
I have one that smells like smoke. It goes valid.
I put the odor and on, do sniff tat check
yet check. So there's one that I have that is
you just get a whiff. It's like an ash tray
passes in front of your nose. Okay, And I have

(40:49):
no idea who it is, but it happens all the time.
I think it's an older guy, but I don't know
who he is, and it just happens randomly. I could
be like anywhere in the house or out on the
porch and just like you, just a whiff ashtray. Pamela.
I do get Pamela sometimes, but I don't know who
Pamela is.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
But I got an ant named Pamela.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
She ain't family members, well, neither was Kimberly.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Is Aunt Pam sick or something? I don't think, so
maybe you need to call Aunt Pam.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, I think I might have to call Pammy.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
How do you feel a little nauseous? How do you feel.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Collar?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Finally won.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
It says collar is a collar?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Oh, like a dog collar.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Well, it's just says collar. I don't know if it's
a shirt or a dog. Maybe it's we were talking
about Catholics.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, hey, cool, I'm down with you.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
That was weird. So maybe it is Daniel because we
were talking to him, although I did ask if anybody
else was in here, so maybe that was somebody else.
I'm not sure is anybody in here besides Daniel, So
weird to get silent every time. I guess maybe it's

(42:28):
just Daniel. So I was laughing because I was telling
somebody at work that I being an impath and being
in the hospital is a little interesting, especially when it's
so chaotic and we're busy. Could you get like everything
from every It's very overwhelming and everybody in there stressed out,
so then you get that on top of it. And

(42:50):
I made a comment about needing to put my rocks
in my pocket and nobody knew.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
They were like what.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I was like, you know, my rocks, my crystals, and
they're like what, I'm like, never mind, you don't understand.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, this is one.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I was talking to me about conspiracies, like different ones
and all that. So do you have a favorite cryptid?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Do you have one mine. Yeah, I actually, like I said,
I'm I like the Fresnel walkers. Huh, I like the
Fresnel walkers.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, Presdent night calls are hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
If they say mirrors or portals, but when you look
in the mirror, everything's backwards. Hello, So they says hello Hello.
Does that mean that they're seeing everything backwards? They might
or are they seeing it like you're looking in a window.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Well, if it's in the if they think that everybody
looks through a mirror, it'd be so the doll would
be on the other side.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
But yeah, if you're looking. But if they're looking at us,
would that be backwards or just the mirror counteract the backwardness.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
No, I think the mirror would probably count and it'd
be backwards if they're looking through it, because if we
see it backwards, then they see it the yap, that'd
be right side.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I trying to figure out. I don't know, Brenda. Oh
the ghosts yep, maybe's bullsack. Brenda.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
So I got the.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
House when it grabbed it, was it like a squeeze
or like a like just something rubbing it?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
No, it was a full on It was a full
on growth.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Was it like a hard squeeze?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Oh yeah, enough to joke me a little bit, going
oh hello.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Okay, why did it know if it was like a
like aggressive squeeze or like a firm assertive It.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Was a firm assertive gonna give me that ding?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay. I don't know if I just blinked weird or what,
but I was like, this looked like there's I thought
I saw something move like up here by my head.
Maybe I just blinked. Funny. One time I got Bell's palsy.
That was a good time. I literally went to a
Mexican restaurant, sat down, and by the time we left,
I couldn't move this half of my face. It was weird.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
They figure out what Nope, no idea.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It just randomly, I like, for three months I couldn't
move anything. Oh shit, yeah, I was a little I
thought I was having a stroke.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
That's the first.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
And it was just weird because like I would blink,
I would notice that one side wasn't one would blink
fast and the other one would go clinger. I was like,
this is I was the person across me. I'm like,
does this look weird to you. Hello, talk into the box.
I moved it did I'm not moving to the right place?

(45:59):
Is that your Do you like it here? They're finicky, Yeah,
gotta have it just right, so I guess we can
wrap it up. And then I guess I can prep.
I got a cryptid coming, so I guess they're all
ready for that. But again, Tony, you are awesome. I
am so excited.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
This was awesome. So this is Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I tell everybody, see, I'm not joking. You really can
be on the show with me.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yes you can.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I've got another Yeah, support the patroons for me, because,
let me tell you, people don't realize that we have
to pay for subscriptions. We have to pay for stuff.
And I do all the work. I do my research,
I do my notes, I edit the whole nine. Because
one it would be nice. I would love to be
able to do this full time. Although I do love

(46:47):
my job at the hospital, so there's that.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's a lot of work. It's a lot of time,
and I appreciate it. I appreciate all my listeners, and
I'm just I'm so pumped right now. I've been excited
about this since we got it on the counter, like
I was even like we're so good, right, like we're
so good for the like we good. Oh yeah yeah
boy wait not yet, not yet, don't go. But it's

(47:16):
just something that it's really cool, and I wanted to
have the opportunity to have some people on and all
of that stuff. Of Course, I got to screen him
because I don't want to make a total weirdo on here,
because I'd be weird.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, I mean we're all weird here, you know, there's
a certain kind of weird that we don't want to promote. Yes, yeah,
but I've been in contact with another gentleman and we've
kind of been the same thing. We've found a time
and then something happens and then something So we've been
going back and forth and I'm hoping to have him
on soon. One who blesses tell us what's up. Maybe

(47:46):
that's where the caller comes in. Maybe we do have
a priest in here. Wouldn't that be ironic considering they
don't believe in it?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Can you imagine like being some like a preacher or
pastor or whatever, and you don't believe in ghosts whole time,
and then you die and you become one that they're like, shit,
I was wrong the whole time.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Er.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Well, that's the thing too, like purgatory, right, I mean,
would you classify this space and ghosts? But then again,
are they in the space? Are they in our space?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
The question, that's a question every ghost hunting show I've
ever watched.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
You know, this is key says what key? Well is
that the key? Is she the key?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I am the I am the gatekeeper. Where's the key master?
Or I'm the key master? Where's the gatekeeper?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
You're the key master? So we got to find the gatekeeper.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Where're my gatekeeper?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
You're awesome, Thank you, and keep listening, everybody, don't forget
share all of that fun jazz, and make sure.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
You give him five star Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Five stars only all right too, mix some everybody.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
We'll see you
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